Welp! You knew the fellas were gonna have a lot to say about this episode. From John's full-blown transformation to "Jules" from Pulp Fiction, to the apparent string-pasta-thin budget, the boys wanna know: how many of these 24 got-damn mystery boxes are we gonna get solved in one episode? Demon Lindelof strikes again.
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00:00 --> 00:11 [SPEAKER_04]: We're talking about lanterns episode seven season one obviously I'm somewhat being hyperbolic episode should have been title Axme again my love
00:13 --> 00:23 [SPEAKER_05]: Say one more time I dare you say one more time That's great you confirm for me that crime in a barrel is a popular topic in black culture Can you confirm that for me?
00:23 --> 00:24 [SPEAKER_05]: Does anybody have a rave?
00:25 --> 00:36 [SPEAKER_04]: And I think it's a rave This is Ron Dawson, I have three Swimming rights, let's go Hey there, are you girls boys and I are in binary?
00:36 --> 00:41 [SPEAKER_03]: Welcome to another episode of Dungeons Hey buddy, just bring it down, just bring it down
00:43 --> 00:49 [SPEAKER_03]: We're laughing because we just spent the past 25 minutes talking about 45 more Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's there.
00:50 --> 00:50 [SPEAKER_04]: It's there.
00:50 --> 01:03 [SPEAKER_03]: It's damn near wins day As usual we would on a tangent even before the show started Right anyway, before we get started.
01:03 --> 01:09 [SPEAKER_03]: I just have to make this announcement John is pretty much gone full blown Sam Jackson
01:10 --> 01:37 [SPEAKER_04]: We are in, if for those of you who are talking about sex Samuel L. Jackson, like that, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may, they may,
01:38 --> 01:42 [SPEAKER_05]: Say one more time, I dare you, say one more time.
01:42 --> 01:45 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, okay, okay.
01:46 --> 01:52 [SPEAKER_03]: I'd say the number of motherfuckers that John dropped combined with
01:53 --> 01:55 [SPEAKER_03]: I think that you are accessing this one.
01:55 --> 01:55 [SPEAKER_03]: The wraps.
01:55 --> 01:58 [SPEAKER_04]: There were at least two, there were two axes.
01:58 --> 01:59 [SPEAKER_03]: There was two axes.
01:59 --> 02:00 [SPEAKER_03]: There was two axes.
02:00 --> 02:02 [SPEAKER_05]: There's like back to back axes.
02:02 --> 02:03 [SPEAKER_03]: And they didn't even want earlier.
02:04 --> 02:04 [SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
02:05 --> 02:15 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we're back to back axes with at least two motherfuckers maybe three, maybe three, and at least five or six F bombs.
02:16 --> 02:17 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh yeah, I'm more sure.
02:17 --> 02:19 [SPEAKER_04]: Now, it was ridiculous.
02:19 --> 02:31 [SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
02:32 --> 02:35 [SPEAKER_03]: John now versus though, John is least 10 years.
02:35 --> 02:36 [SPEAKER_03]: It's 10 years, yeah.
02:36 --> 02:37 [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
02:37 --> 02:46 [SPEAKER_03]: So I think about my own personal journey, like, you know, the name of the show is based on my book and that's all, I can't feel like this episode, John was me.
02:46 --> 02:48 [SPEAKER_03]: I was like, see myself in John.
02:48 --> 02:50 [SPEAKER_03]: So is this, is this, is this,
02:52 --> 02:56 [SPEAKER_04]: John, who has been holding in all this anger for 10 years?
02:56 --> 02:58 [SPEAKER_03]: So this was the insight it was going to bring.
02:58 --> 03:02 [SPEAKER_03]: And I have why I think I can give it grace, but also another critique.
03:03 --> 03:14 [SPEAKER_03]: As someone who can personally resonate, you know, it last week I talked about how I'd never used to say the effort because of a traumatic experience ahead with my mouth being washed out.
03:14 --> 03:18 [SPEAKER_03]: But now I'm dropping up on the other time when I make TikTok videos, when I'm talking to people,
03:22 --> 03:42 [SPEAKER_03]: If someone were watching my life and they were looking at and there was like a time jump from Ron in 2016, when Trump came on office and this whole thing sort of changing for me, and to 2026, and you didn't see everything in between.
03:43 --> 03:48 [SPEAKER_03]: and someone was watching my life, they could make the same critique about me that they were making about John.
03:48 --> 03:54 [SPEAKER_03]: They got Ron saying, motherfucker now and all those, he did, he was saying, fracking the last episode and now he's saying, motherfucker.
03:54 --> 03:59 [SPEAKER_03]: And so now, so that's, so that part of making give it grace.
03:59 --> 04:02 [SPEAKER_03]: The only critique I would have is,
04:03 --> 04:14 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know to what extent they were telling that story of John, like if there was a through line about him connecting with the black community or him being teased by his brother.
04:15 --> 04:24 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, we had one episode and see in episode three where they kind of touched on his brother's teasing him, but it wasn't like a main through line of like John.
04:25 --> 04:49 [SPEAKER_03]: being a quote a white boy or talking white and now he's you know maybe he's invoking the spirit of Sam Jackson you know I mean the influence of having reconnected with his brothers maybe right but they haven't even laid that out in the stories might that would be my critique because you can be I could buy that but I haven't seen that in the story so well my
04:54 --> 04:57 [SPEAKER_04]: inauthentic and weird coming from him.
04:57 --> 05:00 [SPEAKER_03]: But it's because we haven't seen it in between.
05:00 --> 05:03 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, oh, it's because you can't deliver that shit believable.
05:03 --> 05:07 [SPEAKER_04]: You don't think when he was saying it, it's like, you notice it.
05:07 --> 05:09 [SPEAKER_04]: Like when he says, acts, acts, because it doesn't sound natural coming out of his mouth.
05:09 --> 05:10 [SPEAKER_04]: I, I'm totally embarrassed.
05:10 --> 05:19 [SPEAKER_04]: The British, the British, the British, the British, the British, the British, the British, the British, the British, the British, the British, the British, the British, the British, the British, the British, the British, the British, the British, the British, the British, the British, the British, the British, the British, the British, the British,
05:20 --> 05:39 [SPEAKER_04]: Well, especially when you watch the post episode recap and this nigga's just talking in his regular voice He's a crazy English you see And it's like mother fucker The wait What's that keen pill sketch was it keen pill where he is like this
05:40 --> 05:42 [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, no, yeah, it was Keem Peel.
05:42 --> 05:47 [SPEAKER_03]: We're like, uh, Jordan is this guy who's really from the hood, and then Kees playing like this.
05:48 --> 05:49 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
05:49 --> 05:50 [SPEAKER_05]: Playing the hood, yeah.
05:50 --> 05:52 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, a job at Job-a-Club, but that in here.
05:52 --> 05:54 [SPEAKER_03]: I agree, I have to find it.
05:54 --> 05:55 [SPEAKER_03]: That was great.
05:55 --> 05:56 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, brilliant.
05:56 --> 06:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Just real good way you move, especially when you talk, I just really see this character coming a life for my eyes.
06:02 --> 06:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Cheers, thank you.
06:02 --> 06:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Cheers, thank you.
06:03 --> 06:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Cheers, thank you.
06:03 --> 06:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Cheers, thank you.
06:04 --> 06:06 [SPEAKER_01]: And it's one of your performance, um,
06:07 --> 06:09 [SPEAKER_01]: It's just not quite there, yeah, okay.
06:10 --> 06:15 [SPEAKER_01]: I really need to see you make more of a transformation, okay?
06:15 --> 06:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Like Nigel here.
06:18 --> 06:24 [SPEAKER_00]: I do British and if I much up in the bit of advice, I don't think I need that.
06:24 --> 06:32 [SPEAKER_03]: Because you're right, you do every time they do the post episode talk and then you're in a stock piece and he's good in his summary.
06:32 --> 06:39 [SPEAKER_00]: You were really in the desert, and just contributed to the the the rawness of what we were trying to depict.
06:40 --> 06:51 [SPEAKER_00]: The gift of walking with a crew like this is that they really accurately create environments that are Can you save to the individuals portraying the characters?
06:51 --> 06:58 [SPEAKER_05]: Do you think that that bias is you because I said that you didn't see that?
06:59 --> 07:07 [SPEAKER_04]: Do you think that this makes it funnier because in the episode it just comes out weird
07:08 --> 07:10 [SPEAKER_04]: I felt like it doesn't sound authentic to me.
07:10 --> 07:14 [SPEAKER_03]: I felt like the way he was saying by the fact that he felt authentic to me.
07:14 --> 07:14 [SPEAKER_04]: It didn't.
07:14 --> 07:15 [SPEAKER_04]: It didn't.
07:15 --> 07:16 [SPEAKER_03]: It didn't.
07:16 --> 07:20 [SPEAKER_04]: That just filled out of character for John.
07:20 --> 07:22 [SPEAKER_04]: And it felt sudden.
07:23 --> 07:30 [SPEAKER_04]: And it's like any other time in the previous episodes, except maybe for one or two moments.
07:31 --> 07:33 [SPEAKER_04]: that he got angry, right?
07:33 --> 07:37 [SPEAKER_04]: He was very stoic, he was very controlled, yes.
07:37 --> 07:40 [SPEAKER_04]: And so it's like, why not carry that through?
07:40 --> 07:50 [SPEAKER_04]: Like, it just feels not only gratuitous and inauthentic, it's comical, it's like a caricature of John's character.
07:50 --> 07:53 [SPEAKER_04]: You know, it's like, oh, we don't have him say motherfucker now.
07:53 --> 07:55 [SPEAKER_04]: We don't have him say act now.
07:55 --> 07:59 [SPEAKER_04]: And that's how he shows his anger and displeasure.
08:01 --> 08:12 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know, and it's the whole episode to me was, was garbage, because now, oh, the man, Hunter, she's poisonous gas instead of talking about it.
08:12 --> 08:15 [SPEAKER_04]: We're going to talk about it.
08:15 --> 08:17 [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to talk about it.
08:17 --> 08:22 [SPEAKER_02]: It's almost pandering, and I don't even know what their parents do.
08:23 --> 08:25 [SPEAKER_02]: Because people, I don't know.
08:25 --> 08:27 [SPEAKER_02]: They're establishing a character that,
08:29 --> 08:38 [SPEAKER_02]: It has been established in many different forms, but never this one, never this particular one, like the cursing and all that kind of stuff.
08:38 --> 08:41 [SPEAKER_05]: Are you talking about, like Ron said, yes.
08:41 --> 08:46 [SPEAKER_02]: You talk about comic book lore, like, I'm just talking about the cursing and all that kind of stuff.
08:46 --> 08:47 [SPEAKER_02]: And I know it's comic books, so he works.
08:47 --> 08:49 [SPEAKER_02]: Even what they've done is never going to happen here.
08:49 --> 08:55 [SPEAKER_05]: But, well, one thing I noticed, I mean, I'm not disagreeing with you guys, but one thing I'm not doing this.
08:55 --> 08:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, sorry.
08:58 --> 09:24 [SPEAKER_05]: I was just going to say, I would just throw this on the, and this isn't to disagree but you guys are saying, but I feel like there is something there where, when you look at the series a vast time that we've seen up to this point was in 2016, because we open the show is 2026 when we open with the reveal of how being shot.
09:25 --> 09:31 [SPEAKER_05]: But then we go, we flash backwards to what led to that.
09:31 --> 09:32 [SPEAKER_05]: And he was a different person.
09:32 --> 09:44 [SPEAKER_05]: I think that it doesn't bother me as much because I think to do Iran's for somebody who made the point that he's live life was black man in America and he lost the trophy.
09:46 --> 09:48 [SPEAKER_05]: He didn't become the Green Lantern.
09:48 --> 09:51 [SPEAKER_05]: His life has radically gone a different course than what he thought it would.
09:52 --> 10:01 [SPEAKER_05]: Particularly, he thought he was asked out when he was in, when he got fired from the military, but his mom's hanging there, baby, he never went around the corner.
10:01 --> 10:05 [SPEAKER_05]: It's sure enough he goes to our school and then a little behold, the Guardians reach out to him.
10:05 --> 10:09 [SPEAKER_05]: and he gets the opportunity to become a lantern apprentice or whatever.
10:09 --> 10:11 [SPEAKER_05]: So then he thinks his life's going to go that way.
10:11 --> 10:16 [SPEAKER_05]: And then his first mission, first thing with how, everything this goes, hey, wire.
10:16 --> 10:19 [SPEAKER_05]: And he gets a point where he's like, up this, I don't even want this.
10:20 --> 10:21 [SPEAKER_05]: And gives him a ringback.
10:21 --> 10:25 [SPEAKER_05]: So isn't going to be bitter or pissed off in a different person 10 years later?
10:26 --> 10:29 [SPEAKER_05]: I think so, just like I think how was it different person later?
10:29 --> 10:32 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think how was always that person?
10:33 --> 10:33 [SPEAKER_04]: They shouldn't.
10:33 --> 10:38 [SPEAKER_05]: But the whole he played John, but I agree, I agree.
10:38 --> 10:40 [SPEAKER_05]: I think that how I always have like a good heart.
10:40 --> 10:43 [SPEAKER_05]: But I think he also had this role that he played with John.
10:43 --> 10:46 [SPEAKER_05]: Because he knew that this dude's coming to take his gig.
10:46 --> 10:48 [SPEAKER_05]: And he also, I think he always
10:49 --> 11:03 [SPEAKER_05]: kind of play those role to make it the sense that how Jordan is type of cat that he comes off like an asshole to disarm people to achieve his goals but underneath that he's not like someone that okay I'm going to go murder a whole bunch of people.
11:03 --> 11:05 [SPEAKER_05]: He's really I think he cares about people.
11:06 --> 11:11 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, they showed how as a child he didn't want to give up the baseball cause he was pitching to no hitter.
11:11 --> 11:15 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so he's always been the guy who's been like, no, you're not taking this from me.
11:15 --> 11:16 [SPEAKER_04]: Fuck you.
11:16 --> 11:17 [SPEAKER_04]: You know he's been about himself.
11:17 --> 11:20 [SPEAKER_04]: So I don't think it's about how having a good heart.
11:20 --> 11:23 [SPEAKER_04]: It's about how being the asshole that his father was.
11:23 --> 11:32 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, that was also talk about they go to great lengths to talk about how he went back to the town that Chipotle, he destroyed and would ask people, hey, what can I do for you?
11:32 --> 11:32 [SPEAKER_05]: How can I help?
11:33 --> 11:33 [SPEAKER_05]: Who do you know that does that?
11:36 --> 11:41 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but but he was he changed after the whole
11:42 --> 11:48 [SPEAKER_04]: thing with the man hunter and all that because I know that's where I guess you confused me because I thought you said he was the same.
11:48 --> 11:53 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm saying, no, that's the point I was making was that now the thing he's different.
11:53 --> 11:55 [SPEAKER_05]: Just like John is different point.
11:56 --> 12:03 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I'm just saying that they're we're looking at two different characters from 2016 to do's out 2020 to yeah, 2020 six.
12:04 --> 12:06 [SPEAKER_05]: That's all I was trying to make the point of John.
12:06 --> 12:11 [SPEAKER_04]: How come when we first see John go back to Rushville in the pilot?
12:12 --> 12:14 [SPEAKER_04]: and they see house body in the bleachers.
12:15 --> 12:18 [SPEAKER_04]: How come John doesn't just walk up and say, what's wrong with this motherfucker?
12:19 --> 12:20 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, you know, like,
12:22 --> 12:23 [SPEAKER_05]: Hey, bitch.
12:23 --> 12:23 [SPEAKER_05]: Hey, why bitch?
12:23 --> 12:25 [SPEAKER_05]: What's wrong with this one for the right here?
12:25 --> 12:28 [SPEAKER_05]: He's a slow-sighted man.
12:28 --> 12:29 [SPEAKER_05]: Wow, that's cool.
12:29 --> 12:29 [SPEAKER_05]: Wow, I do.
12:30 --> 12:31 [SPEAKER_04]: He's a slow-sighted man.
12:31 --> 12:34 [SPEAKER_04]: He's like, you know, he's still the stoic guy.
12:35 --> 12:39 [SPEAKER_04]: You know, I mean, there's something about his, you know, he doesn't look like he's aged a year.
12:39 --> 12:41 [SPEAKER_04]: He's still in the bottom of it.
12:41 --> 12:43 [SPEAKER_05]: He didn't say mother fucker when they found him in the top of the fucker.
12:43 --> 12:46 [SPEAKER_04]: He didn't say why am I up in this frozen bitch.
12:47 --> 12:49 [SPEAKER_04]: I just feel like it's like Jibon said.
12:49 --> 12:51 [SPEAKER_04]: I feel like it's pandering.
12:51 --> 12:52 [SPEAKER_04]: I feel like I get you.
12:52 --> 13:02 [SPEAKER_04]: I get you trying to make John more street for whatever reason to animal to make me show the dichotomy between him and how I don't know.
13:03 --> 13:05 [SPEAKER_04]: And I will say John didn't lose the ring.
13:06 --> 13:07 [SPEAKER_04]: He rejected it.
13:07 --> 13:08 [SPEAKER_04]: That's what I said.
13:08 --> 13:09 [SPEAKER_04]: He gave it back.
13:09 --> 13:10 [SPEAKER_04]: He's like, take this.
13:10 --> 13:11 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, he didn't lose the price.
13:12 --> 13:13 [SPEAKER_05]: He didn't want the price.
13:13 --> 13:13 [SPEAKER_05]: But I'm saying.
13:16 --> 13:22 [SPEAKER_05]: The gist of what I'm getting at is that he, his whole life was shaped to obtain, to become a lantern.
13:23 --> 13:28 [SPEAKER_05]: When he finally he's right at the doorstep and can do that, he gives it away.
13:30 --> 13:31 [SPEAKER_05]: And he doesn't like that.
13:31 --> 13:36 [SPEAKER_05]: And so for me, he's gonna be in his, to me, I think anybody being there feels about that.
13:36 --> 13:44 [SPEAKER_05]: It's like, dude, you got to go, you write about the NFL, you get ready to play NFL and then now you turn it down the contract and walk away from the game.
13:45 --> 13:47 [SPEAKER_04]: But that was his decision.
13:47 --> 13:54 [SPEAKER_05]: So why I'm saying if a word football player decision that I still think they would fill away about the circumstances that led to that.
13:54 --> 13:55 [SPEAKER_05]: That's all I'm saying.
13:55 --> 13:59 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm just saying I understand that that situation.
13:59 --> 14:00 [SPEAKER_03]: It's like you're saying.
14:01 --> 14:07 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, it was his decision, but the circumstances surrounding it, it was what was frustrating.
14:07 --> 14:08 [SPEAKER_05]: Which fuck up, yeah, yeah, yeah.
14:08 --> 14:11 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, because everything could have went great.
14:11 --> 14:12 [SPEAKER_05]: It could have went swimmingly.
14:13 --> 14:14 [SPEAKER_05]: We're so, oh, he met Howard Jordan.
14:14 --> 14:15 [SPEAKER_05]: Howard, hey, Junior, come here.
14:15 --> 14:18 [SPEAKER_05]: Great, take the ring, oh yeah, and everything could have been.
14:18 --> 14:19 [SPEAKER_05]: He got foisted into this.
14:19 --> 14:23 [SPEAKER_05]: He didn't even realize that they were going to ask him to still it.
14:23 --> 14:25 [SPEAKER_05]: Basically, snatch it or take it for him, how.
14:26 --> 14:27 [SPEAKER_05]: So why should you all do that shit?
14:27 --> 14:28 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to print this.
14:28 --> 14:29 [SPEAKER_05]: Why are you leaving this to me?
14:31 --> 14:33 [SPEAKER_05]: which will lead to other story of the point.
14:33 --> 14:37 [SPEAKER_05]: But there's all kind of weird mystic gospel in that is this weird.
14:38 --> 14:42 [SPEAKER_05]: And I can understand you're not wanting, it's like, this is the way I gotta take it.
14:42 --> 14:42 [SPEAKER_05]: Then I don't want it.
14:43 --> 14:45 [SPEAKER_05]: It felt like that, it seemed like that was the author's intent.
14:46 --> 14:48 [SPEAKER_05]: When they're writing the story, if I gotta do this, it's a really worth it.
14:49 --> 14:51 [SPEAKER_05]: And I also see like how I was saying that too.
14:51 --> 14:53 [SPEAKER_05]: So, you know, sublimly are, you know,
14:56 --> 14:59 [SPEAKER_05]: coated the you know when he's asking probing and asking John questions.
15:00 --> 15:06 [SPEAKER_05]: So I think that it's it's fair to say that That John went in.
15:06 --> 15:14 [SPEAKER_05]: I want to say Nayev is not the right word, but he just didn't understand what he was getting into and then when he finally did realize he's like I want to shit Not like this.
15:15 --> 15:16 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I think you know
15:19 --> 15:22 [SPEAKER_03]: to go to a dues point about like the change.
15:23 --> 15:39 [SPEAKER_03]: The issue I have with it is, I think they're clearly is a change from how he was in the first few episodes to how he was by the end, because I know we're not the only creators who made comments about the evolution of his vernacular.
15:40 --> 15:40 [SPEAKER_03]: But,
15:43 --> 15:45 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't feel like that was a key storyline.
15:46 --> 15:47 [SPEAKER_03]: It felt like something that just kind of happened.
15:47 --> 15:49 [SPEAKER_03]: It's supposed to listen to what's in a key storyline.
15:50 --> 15:56 [SPEAKER_03]: It feels out of the blue, feels like it's not really smoothness.
15:56 --> 15:58 [SPEAKER_03]: I think I love the CTE from that car crash.
15:59 --> 16:00 [SPEAKER_04]: It could be it.
16:02 --> 16:06 [SPEAKER_04]: Um, they have their antibiotics after you had that car.
16:06 --> 16:07 [SPEAKER_04]: That's really good.
16:07 --> 16:10 [SPEAKER_05]: Hey, what am I, what am I, Cheyron, did you appreciate this story?
16:10 --> 16:12 [SPEAKER_04]: They're there Portuguese, you learn the body.
16:12 --> 16:25 [SPEAKER_05]: All right, it's just, it was them phenomenon, it was like, right, you're saying, right, you'll appreciate this one of my friends with his, his mom was about Christian, like, you know, how yourself, whatever, and she had a really horrific accident like that.
16:26 --> 16:26 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, geez.
16:27 --> 16:27 [SPEAKER_05]: Changed her.
16:28 --> 16:31 [SPEAKER_05]: She totally came back cursing and going out crazy.
16:31 --> 16:35 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, no, no, it was, it was bad.
16:35 --> 16:36 [SPEAKER_04]: Well, Satan is now.
16:37 --> 16:37 [SPEAKER_05]: Was that?
16:37 --> 16:39 [SPEAKER_04]: He's a fool.
16:39 --> 16:40 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, hell, Satan.
16:43 --> 17:00 [SPEAKER_03]: to basically the other before we get to specific scenes the other high-level critique I have of the episode and it goes back to what we've seen for that I mean this one admittedly
17:01 --> 17:05 [SPEAKER_03]: has more space stuff like we least make it to another planet.
17:05 --> 17:08 [SPEAKER_03]: We get to see the spaceship that's been working on.
17:08 --> 17:12 [SPEAKER_04]: We get to wormhole.
17:12 --> 17:13 [SPEAKER_03]: We get to wormhole.
17:14 --> 17:16 [SPEAKER_03]: We get to flying the city.
17:16 --> 17:17 [SPEAKER_03]: We get the best been.
17:18 --> 17:21 [SPEAKER_04]: You know, the team in Beth, then we get the team in the best 20 minutes.
17:21 --> 17:26 [SPEAKER_03]: For you know, we didn't even get to get into the best, but they stopped them in a boat for 20 minutes.
17:26 --> 17:28 [SPEAKER_03]: And it's like, no, we'll keep it in the past.
17:28 --> 17:30 [SPEAKER_03]: The sequence and it's funny.
17:30 --> 17:32 [SPEAKER_03]: When he first brought the boat, he said, there's that boat.
17:32 --> 17:36 [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, I guess, I can see the fucking boat in front of that line.
17:37 --> 17:43 [SPEAKER_03]: I think that's not like, I think what I said in my perfect Rondos and for an actor, I don't see him with a fucking boat.
17:46 --> 17:48 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't see him on a fracking boat.
17:48 --> 17:48 [SPEAKER_04]: You don't see him.
17:48 --> 17:49 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't see him fracking.
17:49 --> 17:50 [SPEAKER_04]: You don't see him fracking.
17:51 --> 17:52 [SPEAKER_04]: No, seriously.
17:52 --> 17:53 [SPEAKER_04]: I didn't see him just.
17:54 --> 17:56 [SPEAKER_05]: Hey, Phil, freaking frills.
17:56 --> 17:57 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't see him.
17:57 --> 17:58 [SPEAKER_04]: Mickey, Ficky, Boat.
17:58 --> 17:59 [SPEAKER_04]: All right.
17:59 --> 18:01 [SPEAKER_03]: Seriously, I did not see him boat.
18:01 --> 18:03 [SPEAKER_03]: I think there was a lot of them.
18:03 --> 18:03 [SPEAKER_03]: It wasn't there.
18:03 --> 18:04 [SPEAKER_04]: Not of light.
18:04 --> 18:06 [SPEAKER_04]: Did you guys see it?
18:06 --> 18:08 [SPEAKER_05]: I saw a green light, but that's all I saw.
18:08 --> 18:08 [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't see it.
18:08 --> 18:09 [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't see the water.
18:09 --> 18:11 [SPEAKER_04]: I just saw it like.
18:11 --> 18:12 [SPEAKER_05]: Maybe there's a desert right there, actually.
18:12 --> 18:14 [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't see the water either.
18:14 --> 18:15 [SPEAKER_03]: It was just desert.
18:15 --> 18:18 [SPEAKER_03]: And then there was a weird direction, a red direction.
18:18 --> 18:25 [SPEAKER_03]: The same, yeah, but if you don't see in the, I wonder if they meant to put in posts, they forgot.
18:25 --> 18:27 [SPEAKER_03]: Listen, thank you for the game.
18:27 --> 18:29 [SPEAKER_03]: Mine's eye, all right.
18:30 --> 18:32 [SPEAKER_05]: I just, this is the part that lit me.
18:32 --> 18:40 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not gonna, little bit, but I'm just saying, is these little things, every episode, these these little things that I know, just, just don't do that.
18:40 --> 18:43 [SPEAKER_03]: All right, so I, I wanted to bring this up.
18:44 --> 18:54 [SPEAKER_03]: That's around so as you know this shows part of the lower hounds one of the lower-end family on the lower-hounds discord reach episode people who are members of the discord share they feel
18:57 --> 19:00 [SPEAKER_05]: who are these four idiots, right?
19:01 --> 19:07 [SPEAKER_03]: And from what I'm reading so far, I'm seeing a lot of people are really 11th of the episode.
19:07 --> 19:10 [SPEAKER_03]: It's a free episode, so far, this episode was great.
19:10 --> 19:12 [SPEAKER_03]: This is fantastic.
19:12 --> 19:15 [SPEAKER_03]: Our boy, John, I think, John liked it.
19:15 --> 19:17 [SPEAKER_05]: All right, that's all I've heard about it too.
19:18 --> 19:19 [SPEAKER_05]: And actually, I was shot.
19:19 --> 19:21 [SPEAKER_05]: It didn't bother me like you guys.
19:21 --> 19:22 [SPEAKER_05]: Like I was, I kind of done it.
19:22 --> 19:23 [SPEAKER_05]: But I would say this.
19:23 --> 19:25 [SPEAKER_05]: I say this with the caveat.
19:26 --> 19:28 [SPEAKER_05]: I know where the criticism is.
19:28 --> 19:41 [SPEAKER_05]: I have a feeling what the criticism is going to be for their in this episode, but I would just I kind of dig the relationship with watching how and and John, to take it out of the story, whatever, I just kind of like that relationship that have.
19:41 --> 19:44 [SPEAKER_05]: But I also feel there are things that they're kind of
19:53 --> 19:55 [SPEAKER_05]: that we're going to probably suffer.
19:55 --> 20:06 [SPEAKER_04]: I feel like this episode has put the final nail in the coffin of bringing in the average viewer.
20:08 --> 20:08 [SPEAKER_03]: In a way, we need you, man.
20:09 --> 20:12 [SPEAKER_04]: It's like this show alienates the average viewer.
20:13 --> 20:13 [SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
20:14 --> 20:16 [SPEAKER_04]: because giving me can you that right?
20:16 --> 20:36 [SPEAKER_04]: Because the stuff like introducing a Carol Ferris and not telling the audience you are who she is and then very next episode because this entire episode was there was a little bit of house origin story but then a lot of it was all about John really in John's mind.
20:37 --> 20:39 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
20:39 --> 20:44 [SPEAKER_04]: And I think the writers are writing this show for themselves.
20:44 --> 20:48 [SPEAKER_04]: I think they really love working on this show.
20:48 --> 20:56 [SPEAKER_04]: And I think they're really into lanterns and telling it in a different way than the comic book has for so many decades.
20:57 --> 20:57 [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
20:57 --> 21:00 [SPEAKER_04]: And I feel like they've lost the average
21:05 --> 21:19 [SPEAKER_04]: But I think you almost have to either be interested in comics or just attracted to the way this show is written to really get into it because I don't think it's a show for the average viewer.
21:20 --> 21:21 [SPEAKER_05]: That's interesting.
21:21 --> 21:26 [SPEAKER_05]: You say that to do because every week their viewership has gone up.
21:27 --> 21:29 [SPEAKER_05]: So now would suggest to the contrary that people are
21:31 --> 21:41 [SPEAKER_04]: We don't, well, I mean, I don't know what argue that we don't know what that viewership is comprised of.
21:41 --> 21:51 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, the viewership could be to HBO and the show, but the Odyssey marketing was too Odyssey.
21:52 --> 21:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, goodness.
21:54 --> 21:57 [SPEAKER_03]: Inside Joe, the whole big conversation we had before this.
21:58 --> 22:12 [SPEAKER_04]: recording was about the out of see and when in the but interestingly what one of the good things for comic book fans have have heard from word amount if you need to check out this show i don't know and this is my opinion yeah i don't know
22:13 --> 22:16 [SPEAKER_04]: is not for just the casual.
22:17 --> 22:19 [SPEAKER_04]: Hey, I want to watch this new show on HBO.
22:19 --> 22:20 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
22:20 --> 22:21 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I agree with you.
22:21 --> 22:21 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.
22:21 --> 22:23 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, the numbers are growing up.
22:23 --> 22:25 [SPEAKER_05]: So I mean, I don't know how many comic books fans are going to be.
22:26 --> 22:28 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm just saying the numbers speak to the contrary.
22:28 --> 22:29 [SPEAKER_05]: But maybe you're right.
22:29 --> 22:30 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.
22:30 --> 22:30 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
22:31 --> 22:35 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, divine as the, I think they're glass and over a lot of stuff, too.
22:35 --> 22:36 [SPEAKER_02]: That's my thing.
22:36 --> 22:41 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, like, JD is saying that there's a lot of little things that are happening
22:43 --> 22:44 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, they could be story holes.
22:45 --> 22:46 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think they're story holes.
22:47 --> 22:57 [SPEAKER_02]: I think that they're there purposefully, but they're not explained as the whole show was about like they drop little things when he takes off the ring and puts it in the seat.
22:58 --> 23:02 [SPEAKER_02]: Next to them and the hologram looks up at him and is like, how are you doing that.
23:03 --> 23:06 [SPEAKER_02]: They don't even there's no thought to it at all.
23:06 --> 23:07 [SPEAKER_02]: There's just like, I don't know.
23:07 --> 23:08 [SPEAKER_02]: And then they keep driving.
23:09 --> 23:14 [SPEAKER_02]: and when he when he makes the bird and the bird is following him around and he does not have the ring.
23:15 --> 23:16 [SPEAKER_02]: People don't know what's going on.
23:16 --> 23:17 [SPEAKER_02]: How does he?
23:18 --> 23:24 [SPEAKER_02]: They don't even think about why there'd be a construct that he'd be able to actually sustain without having the ring.
23:25 --> 23:27 [SPEAKER_02]: There's a reason for all this and they haven't mentioned it.
23:28 --> 23:28 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
23:28 --> 23:30 [SPEAKER_04]: He doesn't need the ring.
23:31 --> 23:33 [SPEAKER_05]: Right, is he's running into polls?
23:33 --> 23:37 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I mean, so divine, I don't want to say it.
23:37 --> 23:39 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to say it, I don't want to say it.
23:39 --> 23:40 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, I don't say it, I don't say it.
23:40 --> 23:41 [SPEAKER_02]: That's perfect.
23:41 --> 23:51 [SPEAKER_03]: But without saying it, so is there something in the comics that eludes to John being a special lantern that he can manifest stuff without the ring?
23:52 --> 23:58 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, not just the manifest stuff without the ring, but that he is a special lantern that he has, you know,
23:59 --> 24:07 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to say he's better than how he's not, I mean, how is still held up as, you know, one of the time.
24:07 --> 24:09 [SPEAKER_04]: So John's power inherent.
24:09 --> 24:10 [SPEAKER_03]: He's a special actor.
24:11 --> 24:12 [SPEAKER_03]: All right.
24:12 --> 24:13 [SPEAKER_02]: So pretty much.
24:13 --> 24:14 [SPEAKER_03]: He has.
24:14 --> 24:14 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
24:15 --> 24:16 [SPEAKER_03]: So I think.
24:17 --> 24:30 [SPEAKER_03]: I think they have alluded to the fact that there's obviously something special about them because in both, in both episodes where they bring up the fact that he's able to manifest things without the ring, they do make a point to bring it up that it's a big deal.
24:30 --> 24:36 [SPEAKER_03]: They did it with the bird episode and they did it with this.
24:37 --> 24:41 [SPEAKER_03]: But they also, it's almost felt like,
24:42 --> 24:44 [SPEAKER_03]: I wouldn't say totally almost like a throwaway.
24:44 --> 24:46 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, oh, it's interesting, a lot of throwaways.
24:47 --> 24:49 [SPEAKER_05]: But it's like the mainstream box that a do talks about.
24:49 --> 24:53 [SPEAKER_05]: You know, it's like, they, they, they, they, Chad this mystery, how's he able to do that?
24:53 --> 24:56 [SPEAKER_05]: And now people will ponder it and be, oh, my gosh, they're amazed by it.
24:57 --> 24:59 [SPEAKER_05]: But then like you want to say, I'll just go on.
24:59 --> 25:07 [SPEAKER_05]: And so the one thing that's amazing about this show, that is fascinating is how, like I can never tell
25:08 --> 25:16 [SPEAKER_05]: The one thing they do do well, and I don't know there's a good thing or bad thing, but they excel at, not, I have no clue where the story is gonna go.
25:16 --> 25:17 [SPEAKER_04]: You can never tell when something's important.
25:18 --> 25:22 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah, and some ways you can't tell.
25:23 --> 25:27 [SPEAKER_05]: They keep you engaged in a way because it's like, oh, I didn't see that coming.
25:27 --> 25:28 [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't see that coming.
25:28 --> 25:35 [SPEAKER_05]: It's like these things just pop up and it's like, you can't really tell where, because a lot of times we showed you okay, I know it's coming next, I know what's gonna, but this one,
25:36 --> 25:41 [SPEAKER_05]: And in some things are done well, and masterfully, and then other ones are like, have you scratch your head?
25:42 --> 25:56 [SPEAKER_05]: Like, cats get blown up in tornadoes, and aliens get, you know, silly things, they're just like, for all the pump and circumstance of presenting these aliens, they show when I like some boogas that got, you know, blown themselves up in cornfields and getting blown up in tornadoes.
25:56 --> 25:57 [SPEAKER_05]: It's just like,
25:58 --> 26:04 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know, or the man hunter getting killed with the bullet, you know, the, would you call it just, just snap for a couple of years.
26:04 --> 26:04 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
26:04 --> 26:06 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think, I don't think that story like it.
26:06 --> 26:06 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think.
26:06 --> 26:06 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think.
26:06 --> 26:07 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think.
26:07 --> 26:08 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think that story like it.
26:08 --> 26:09 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't, I think.
26:09 --> 26:10 [SPEAKER_03]: Now it's the head.
26:10 --> 26:10 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
26:11 --> 26:11 [SPEAKER_03]: Which side?
26:11 --> 26:12 [SPEAKER_04]: I just like this show.
26:13 --> 26:18 [SPEAKER_04]: This episode, I should say, reestablish the whole.
26:19 --> 26:24 [SPEAKER_04]: We want to keep this show 85 to 90% grounded in the reality.
26:27 --> 26:32 [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, because the fact that he has put down Sinestro with a right hook.
26:33 --> 26:34 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I started about that.
26:35 --> 26:37 [SPEAKER_04]: Like, oh, so we all could just take out Sinestro.
26:37 --> 26:40 [SPEAKER_04]: If we're mad enough in him, right?
26:40 --> 26:43 [SPEAKER_05]: But if it was something about Sinestro, I don't even know Sinestro.
26:43 --> 26:44 [SPEAKER_05]: So I don't know.
26:44 --> 26:48 [SPEAKER_04]: Like for me, just take this motherfucker like he's one of the, he's a
26:54 --> 27:13 [SPEAKER_04]: like what what is that speak on that more like what it should be kept in this intergalactic prison right I mean if I did it no whatever must well train last to us ever and look maybe look maybe the end of this episode is all in John's mind maybe all that never even happened that we did it's a mystery box
27:16 --> 27:38 [SPEAKER_04]: Even it's like why the fuck are you showing me all this and like like you just said earlier JD like a lot of things Feel like throwaway lines like when they're talking about guy gardener and the fact that he has a gold tooth It was a throwaway line, but the fact that they did it Remember he'll have to Like yeah, but yeah We're seeing it all that out like it's important.
27:39 --> 27:39 [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, right?
27:39 --> 27:43 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, is that you're really supposed to carry his gypsy job a gold tooth
27:43 --> 27:45 [SPEAKER_03]: Who fucking cares?
27:45 --> 27:47 [SPEAKER_05]: Because he's a player baby.
27:47 --> 27:48 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm playing a player.
27:49 --> 27:56 [SPEAKER_03]: But going back to Sinestro, hey Ben, what's his frozen makeup doing up on the stands real quick?
27:56 --> 28:13 [SPEAKER_03]: Let me know in the context of this show because he's in this high security intergalactic prison, you think there's something special about him that they have to put in here as opposed to he just some regular, like they literally could have just kept him in restfields.
28:14 --> 28:15 [SPEAKER_03]: overnight.
28:15 --> 28:19 [SPEAKER_04]: What was he holding to house holograms throw the box cutter?
28:19 --> 28:20 [SPEAKER_04]: Like what?
28:20 --> 28:23 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it was like some kind of I saw after I do the shift.
28:23 --> 28:24 [SPEAKER_03]: It was like a shave or something.
28:25 --> 28:25 [SPEAKER_03]: It was like a shave or something.
28:25 --> 28:28 [SPEAKER_05]: I was on a two as one of two brushes right there.
28:28 --> 28:32 [SPEAKER_05]: You broke out and brought a ship with him.
28:33 --> 28:35 [SPEAKER_04]: All this time on all this time on.
28:35 --> 28:36 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, he was sharpening the spoon.
28:39 --> 28:40 [SPEAKER_03]: Great.
28:42 --> 28:47 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I don't think that was, oh, where he was.
28:48 --> 28:50 [SPEAKER_03]: No, I don't think it was either.
28:50 --> 28:52 [SPEAKER_04]: I think it was mine.
28:53 --> 28:55 [SPEAKER_04]: No, no, no, the prison, the prison.
28:56 --> 28:57 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I thought it was.
28:58 --> 28:59 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't think it is.
29:00 --> 29:01 [SPEAKER_02]: Giovanni is that old prison.
29:02 --> 29:02 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, what?
29:02 --> 29:07 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, if it is older than something bad happened there, I don't think it's so either.
29:07 --> 29:09 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I don't think it's number.
29:09 --> 29:09 [SPEAKER_02]: No, it's not.
29:11 --> 29:13 [SPEAKER_04]: Is it the shadow room?
29:14 --> 29:14 [SPEAKER_05]: Wait, what?
29:15 --> 29:15 [SPEAKER_05]: What is it like?
29:15 --> 29:16 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't want it.
29:16 --> 29:17 [SPEAKER_05]: It looks like a cough.
29:17 --> 29:17 [SPEAKER_05]: That was a dream.
29:19 --> 29:20 [SPEAKER_03]: Javan, you're freezing up.
29:20 --> 29:21 [SPEAKER_03]: Say it again?
29:21 --> 29:23 [SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was some kind of prison planning.
29:24 --> 29:25 [SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was some kind of prison planning.
29:26 --> 29:26 [SPEAKER_03]: Myself.
29:26 --> 29:27 [SPEAKER_03]: That's what I thought too.
29:27 --> 29:28 [SPEAKER_05]: I thought it was.
29:28 --> 29:29 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, what is old?
29:29 --> 29:30 [SPEAKER_05]: What is old?
29:30 --> 29:30 [SPEAKER_05]: Like I don't know.
29:31 --> 29:34 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm always the headquarters of the gardeners.
29:35 --> 29:35 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh.
29:35 --> 29:35 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
29:36 --> 29:42 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and that's where I was and that's something that wasn't explained, but I don't know it for me not knowing the lore.
29:42 --> 29:43 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.
29:43 --> 29:45 [SPEAKER_04]: That's where guys supposedly have to go to get the ring.
29:46 --> 29:46 [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
29:46 --> 29:47 [SPEAKER_03]: I think yes.
29:47 --> 29:47 [SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
29:47 --> 29:48 [SPEAKER_05]: I do recall that.
29:49 --> 29:49 [SPEAKER_05]: I do recall that.
29:50 --> 29:55 [SPEAKER_03]: But again, going back to this show in the context of the show, even if you did not know the comics.
29:55 --> 30:05 [SPEAKER_03]: and whose national was, they give the impression that he's so bad ass, he needs to be kept in an intergalactic planet light years away.
30:06 --> 30:07 [SPEAKER_03]: And he had knocked out with one punch.
30:07 --> 30:12 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, let me ask you this, even though someone could be a bad ass doesn't mean that they're tougher strong.
30:12 --> 30:15 [SPEAKER_05]: It's like, is you mental like what, like, I don't know his ring.
30:16 --> 30:21 [SPEAKER_03]: Like if he if he didn't have a ring, but that's my point, JJ, if you do not know Sinatra.
30:21 --> 30:28 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and the context of the show my thinking is he's such a bad ass.
30:28 --> 30:32 [SPEAKER_03]: You have to keep him on an intercollective planet so far away.
30:32 --> 30:33 [SPEAKER_04]: He's presented.
30:33 --> 30:35 [SPEAKER_03]: He's presented, right?
30:36 --> 30:42 [SPEAKER_03]: And so he may be mortal but I wouldn't think a single punch would take him out that easily
30:44 --> 30:47 [SPEAKER_04]: You've never seen the Joker get taken down with a single punch.
30:47 --> 30:48 [SPEAKER_04]: And he's just human.
30:49 --> 30:50 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
30:50 --> 30:56 [SPEAKER_03]: So I thought the same thing when he got punched was like, yeah, when they revealed who it was, it's like, that's an extra.
30:56 --> 30:59 [SPEAKER_04]: He could, he's the biggest man on the floor.
30:59 --> 30:59 [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
30:59 --> 31:02 [SPEAKER_04]: And he's supposed to be this brilliant mind.
31:02 --> 31:04 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, he was house mentor.
31:04 --> 31:05 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
31:05 --> 31:05 [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
31:05 --> 31:08 [SPEAKER_03]: And if he's, I was assume as a lantern, he's a good fighter.
31:10 --> 31:15 [SPEAKER_03]: I would think you would have the reflexes the block of punch or to get out of the way or something.
31:16 --> 31:16 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
31:17 --> 31:18 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
31:19 --> 31:26 [SPEAKER_04]: He's obviously not physically imposing his job, but to just then be
31:27 --> 31:35 [SPEAKER_04]: basically sucker punched, because once the hologram disappeared, John Swung, it's almost like, you didn't fucking see that coming.
31:35 --> 31:40 [SPEAKER_04]: First of all, you didn't know that was housed hologram, like, you're a semester old.
31:40 --> 31:47 [SPEAKER_05]: And I think how was in Kuhuts with him, honestly, because it seemed like how had that warm hole, you
31:48 --> 31:51 [SPEAKER_05]: Cregnival Range Von, but that one mole was two that specific place.
31:51 --> 31:53 [SPEAKER_05]: So I mean, how went there?
31:53 --> 31:57 [SPEAKER_04]: How new about that planet you never know where it goes.
31:57 --> 31:58 [SPEAKER_04]: But you're here, but I said it out.
31:58 --> 32:04 [SPEAKER_05]: But wouldn't you know, like, but the real, how the supposedly murdered how it could still be alive, but the one.
32:05 --> 32:11 [SPEAKER_05]: But the original, the OG how it seemed like he had that black hole because it went to that place.
32:11 --> 32:12 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, he said it out.
32:13 --> 32:17 [SPEAKER_03]: Which makes me wonder, like, is he the one who let it's a national?
32:17 --> 32:18 [SPEAKER_05]: Sorry guys, I put on one second, I'm sorry.
32:19 --> 32:19 [SPEAKER_03]: Keep taking it right.
32:20 --> 32:24 [SPEAKER_03]: So it makes me wonder, was he the one who let it's a national route?
32:24 --> 32:27 [SPEAKER_03]: But then if he was, why would it's a national route, a knife to him?
32:28 --> 32:30 [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe it was just all the rules.
32:31 --> 32:38 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I guess, and maybe next week, maybe we won't, but we were to met a scene.
32:39 --> 32:43 [SPEAKER_03]: Here's another, um, I know this is going to give me trouble.
32:43 --> 32:46 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't even know if I should ask this question.
32:46 --> 32:46 [SPEAKER_04]: Ask it.
32:46 --> 32:47 [SPEAKER_03]: Just a couple.
32:48 --> 32:50 [SPEAKER_03]: Controversely is what we live off.
32:50 --> 32:52 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't want to ask this question.
32:52 --> 32:54 [SPEAKER_04]: We need to international offers.
32:54 --> 32:55 [SPEAKER_04]: I know people don't.
32:55 --> 32:55 [SPEAKER_04]: Don't be a bitch.
33:08 --> 33:08 [SPEAKER_03]: Just edit it.
33:09 --> 33:12 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, no, I won't edit, I won't just ask you.
33:12 --> 33:14 [SPEAKER_04]: Just let it be broke, motherfucker.
33:14 --> 33:17 [SPEAKER_03]: What was the song that John was singing?
33:18 --> 33:19 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, shit, who knows?
33:19 --> 33:20 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, it was so made up.
33:20 --> 33:20 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, good.
33:20 --> 33:21 [SPEAKER_04]: That's the way you guys are.
33:21 --> 33:22 [SPEAKER_04]: It wasn't just me.
33:23 --> 33:27 [SPEAKER_04]: Which again, gratuitous, like all of a sudden, he's rapping.
33:27 --> 33:28 [SPEAKER_04]: So that wasn't that song.
33:28 --> 33:30 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, I'm assuming he's just brother's song.
33:31 --> 33:33 [SPEAKER_05]: Like when it's from the album or something, maybe it's his brother's song.
33:33 --> 33:35 [SPEAKER_03]: I saw something with him.
33:38 --> 33:39 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think so.
33:39 --> 33:45 [SPEAKER_05]: If it is a horrible rendition of whatever I didn't know, maybe it's not, maybe it's not.
33:45 --> 33:48 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, it's what it wasn't sure like okay, I never heard that.
33:49 --> 33:51 [SPEAKER_05]: I never heard that so much.
33:51 --> 33:53 [SPEAKER_04]: He might as well said, Oh, yeah, you're.
33:54 --> 33:56 [SPEAKER_04]: He must, you should kill him like this, right?
33:56 --> 34:21 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey
34:23 --> 34:28 [SPEAKER_03]: This is a minor spoiler for the comics, but I think we've discussed this before, so it's not a big deal.
34:28 --> 34:41 [SPEAKER_03]: But I'm pretty sure, in the first episode, we talked about this, because correct me if I'm wrong, Devon, isn't celestial the one who creates the yellow lanterns or he becomes a yellow lantern?
34:42 --> 34:43 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he creates them.
34:44 --> 34:47 [SPEAKER_03]: Right, and yellow lanterns are the ones that are based on fear, right?
34:48 --> 34:50 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, because you know what I mean?
34:52 --> 34:53 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, okay.
34:53 --> 35:14 [SPEAKER_02]: So I mean, he's already I assume by now, either he's already done it and that's why he was in prison because how took him down or maybe this is supposed to be his origin story too, which is stupid, but it maybe that's what they're going to do and you know, see that's what and that's what I was getting to I'm feeling like they're saying this up to be
35:15 --> 35:27 [SPEAKER_03]: the origin of the yellow lanterns is obviously they made a big deal to talk about the fear and the gas that call back to the other episode with Anton talking about the creative fear.
35:27 --> 35:36 [SPEAKER_03]: So it seems obvious that they're laying in groundwork for Sinestro and the origin of the yellow
35:40 --> 35:41 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, huge to it.
35:41 --> 35:42 [SPEAKER_03]: Wake, do you want that?
35:42 --> 35:45 [SPEAKER_02]: That's just the re-established thing.
35:45 --> 35:47 [SPEAKER_03]: What the fuck is that?
35:47 --> 35:48 [SPEAKER_02]: What the fuck?
35:48 --> 35:48 [SPEAKER_04]: What the fuck?
35:48 --> 35:51 [SPEAKER_04]: We're going to need you to get from underwater.
35:52 --> 35:53 [SPEAKER_05]: Jvall, we can.
35:53 --> 35:54 [SPEAKER_03]: You broke up.
35:55 --> 35:56 [SPEAKER_04]: Can you hear me?
35:56 --> 35:56 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, like we can.
35:56 --> 35:58 [SPEAKER_03]: We can't hear you now, but you broke up.
35:58 --> 36:04 [SPEAKER_03]: See, we're ever seeing back to our debate about obviously in the re-established cameras on the floor.
36:05 --> 36:06 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
36:06 --> 36:07 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, true.
36:08 --> 36:14 [SPEAKER_02]: and not having spectrum because there there's an outage right now where I am.
36:14 --> 36:17 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so you're working on a lot of my phone.
36:18 --> 36:19 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, as well.
36:19 --> 36:23 [SPEAKER_05]: Jibonza the library he's he's piggybacking on the library real quick.
36:24 --> 36:26 [SPEAKER_02]: No, I'm at home, but I'm just using the phone because the hot spot.
36:27 --> 36:29 [SPEAKER_02]: I know, but you still piggybacked it out the library.
36:29 --> 36:30 [SPEAKER_02]: That's why it's so hard to talk about.
36:30 --> 36:31 [SPEAKER_03]: So try a warmer time.
36:31 --> 36:32 [SPEAKER_02]: Arco Wi-Fi.
36:33 --> 36:35 [SPEAKER_03]: Try a warmer time to find.
36:35 --> 36:36 [SPEAKER_03]: What is it that you said?
36:36 --> 36:37 [SPEAKER_03]: I was getting Wi-Fi.
36:37 --> 36:50 [SPEAKER_02]: I can't see the reestablishing of the yellow lanterns because I was assuming that he was in that intergalactic prison because he was a yellow lantern and had his yellow lantern core and how helped take him down.
36:51 --> 36:52 [SPEAKER_02]: So they're already out there.
36:52 --> 36:58 [SPEAKER_02]: the yellow lanterns, and maybe, you know, he's just, but you're assuming that we don't know that.
36:58 --> 36:59 [SPEAKER_04]: That's the thing all of that.
36:59 --> 37:00 [SPEAKER_04]: I know nothing.
37:00 --> 37:00 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
37:00 --> 37:02 [SPEAKER_04]: Was the national always a yellow lantern?
37:02 --> 37:04 [SPEAKER_04]: Was he ever a green lantern?
37:04 --> 37:05 [SPEAKER_04]: No, he was a green lantern.
37:05 --> 37:06 [SPEAKER_04]: He was a green lantern.
37:06 --> 37:06 [SPEAKER_03]: God.
37:06 --> 37:09 [SPEAKER_03]: That's what he was the one who trained how?
37:09 --> 37:10 [SPEAKER_05]: But what he was, yeah.
37:10 --> 37:11 [SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
37:11 --> 37:13 [SPEAKER_05]: But he was a green lantern that created yellow lanterns.
37:14 --> 37:14 [SPEAKER_05]: Is that what he was?
37:15 --> 37:16 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because he just found out.
37:17 --> 37:21 [SPEAKER_02]: It's the green, he just found out.
37:21 --> 37:33 [SPEAKER_02]: that the yellow for him worked better than the green he found the yellow just by searching and he's like, this is what I'm going to do.
37:33 --> 37:33 [SPEAKER_02]: That's what he wants to do.
37:34 --> 37:37 [SPEAKER_02]: He's more about fear.
37:37 --> 37:45 [SPEAKER_02]: This is, this is not the other lanterns are going to get introduced any other colors or emotional spectrum, but even though they could actually have a side question
37:48 --> 38:00 [SPEAKER_04]: our celestial and the lantern that gave how his ring from the same planet because he was pink as well, right?
38:00 --> 38:04 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it was like a monster or something that came on a monster.
38:04 --> 38:04 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
38:05 --> 38:06 [SPEAKER_04]: I've been certain.
38:06 --> 38:07 [SPEAKER_04]: I've been certain.
38:08 --> 38:09 [SPEAKER_04]: I remember how saying he was pink.
38:10 --> 38:11 [SPEAKER_02]: I remember that too.
38:12 --> 38:13 [SPEAKER_02]: He was pink.
38:13 --> 38:13 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
38:14 --> 38:14 [SPEAKER_04]: Huh.
38:15 --> 38:16 [SPEAKER_04]: which would leave me through the league.
38:16 --> 38:19 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't even know if it's an extra or if the next row and he were the same.
38:23 --> 38:36 [SPEAKER_04]: All right, I'm sure it'll come out next season that they were cousin, maybe they might drop it in episode eight that, you know, Abby and Sarah's an extra were actually brothers, right, then it'll just end, right.
38:38 --> 38:46 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, one storyline that is really, I feel like I don't have no idea why they haven't in here.
38:50 --> 39:02 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and it came up a lot in this episode was the $315 bribe that Maggie, I don't know which the purpose of this story line.
39:02 --> 39:04 [SPEAKER_04]: That story line is stupid.
39:05 --> 39:06 [SPEAKER_04]: It does nothing for the story.
39:06 --> 39:07 [SPEAKER_04]: Why is he buckling?
39:08 --> 39:09 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, does he just feel guilty?
39:09 --> 39:10 [SPEAKER_03]: That's what I want to know.
39:10 --> 39:15 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, Kerry made a point to say, you know, everybody wanted to punch how anyway.
39:15 --> 39:16 [SPEAKER_03]: So what
39:20 --> 39:20 [SPEAKER_03]: move on.
39:21 --> 39:21 [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
39:22 --> 39:34 [SPEAKER_03]: But now he that ostensibly the reason why he's doing this is because he doesn't want to be peg for the murder of how because he punched how the night that house shot.
39:35 --> 39:38 [SPEAKER_03]: But it seems like he could just kind of flimsy.
39:38 --> 39:39 [SPEAKER_03]: I know.
39:39 --> 39:40 [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
39:40 --> 39:41 [SPEAKER_03]: Everybody went to punch him anyway.
39:41 --> 39:43 [SPEAKER_03]: He could say I punched him.
39:44 --> 39:45 [SPEAKER_03]: Like that very first day in the
39:46 --> 39:47 [SPEAKER_03]: at the hospital, they could have said, hey, I punched them.
39:47 --> 39:48 [SPEAKER_03]: I punched them, but I didn't kill them.
39:48 --> 39:50 [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly, but I have a fact that he's been hiding it, it actually makes worse.
39:50 --> 40:02 [SPEAKER_03]: But I didn't kill them, but I didn't kill them, but I didn't kill them, but I didn't kill them, but I didn't kill them, but I didn't kill them, but I didn't kill them, but I didn't kill them, but I didn't kill them, but I didn't kill them, but I didn't kill them, but I didn't kill them, but I didn't kill them, but I didn't kill them, but I didn't kill them, but I didn't kill them, but I didn't kill them, but I didn't kill them, but I didn't kill them, but I didn't kill them, but I didn't kill them, but I didn't kill them, but I didn't kill them, but I didn't kill them, but I didn't kill them
40:02 --> 40:06 [SPEAKER_03]: dollars, just because you're afraid of it making me punch them.
40:06 --> 40:08 [SPEAKER_03]: That tells you right now he ain't black.
40:08 --> 40:11 [SPEAKER_05]: You ain't no, no brothers can be given a $315.
40:11 --> 40:13 [SPEAKER_04]: You're probably breaking off that.
40:13 --> 40:14 [SPEAKER_04]: You're right, you're right.
40:14 --> 40:15 [SPEAKER_04]: Is your word against mine?
40:16 --> 40:17 [SPEAKER_05]: Right.
40:17 --> 40:17 [SPEAKER_05]: I'll see you in court.
40:18 --> 40:19 [SPEAKER_05]: I'll see you in court.
40:19 --> 40:20 [SPEAKER_04]: And I can buy the best lawyers.
40:21 --> 40:21 [SPEAKER_04]: Right, right.
40:21 --> 40:22 [SPEAKER_04]: So good luck, man.
40:22 --> 40:23 [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
40:23 --> 40:24 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, exactly.
40:24 --> 40:25 [SPEAKER_03]: 15, 15.
40:25 --> 40:28 [SPEAKER_03]: He could have and give him my automobile back.
40:28 --> 40:29 [SPEAKER_03]: It's all right.
40:29 --> 40:29 [SPEAKER_03]: Right, right.
40:32 --> 40:33 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, you like this watch.
40:33 --> 40:33 [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
40:34 --> 40:35 [SPEAKER_04]: Don't you wish you had one.
40:35 --> 40:35 [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
40:35 --> 40:37 [SPEAKER_03]: So what's the purpose?
40:38 --> 40:40 [SPEAKER_03]: Is this character in the comics, this Maggie person?
40:42 --> 40:43 [SPEAKER_02]: Not that I know a.
40:43 --> 40:44 [SPEAKER_03]: Why is she in this story?
40:45 --> 40:47 [SPEAKER_03]: Why is she in her like, she's a damn lantern.
40:48 --> 40:50 [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe I don't know why she's in this.
40:50 --> 40:51 [SPEAKER_03]: It's a man.
40:51 --> 40:52 [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe she's a man.
40:57 --> 40:58 [SPEAKER_03]: I need to be really pissed.
40:58 --> 41:04 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, where's the intimacy if we get to the end of this season and then it's a man hunter
41:05 --> 41:12 [SPEAKER_03]: No, if it's magic transforms the Zoey, that would be cool, actually.
41:12 --> 41:29 [SPEAKER_03]: I would be pissed if it doesn't turn into something, if it's just her really just, you know, yeah, shaking them down for 300k and they keep this, they keep this show so grounded in mundane reality that
41:30 --> 41:34 [SPEAKER_04]: It's boring to have the time like show me some fantastical shit show.
41:34 --> 41:48 [SPEAKER_04]: That's why that's my biggest two hours like I feel like they're going halfway like they want to make it a gritty a gritty superhero show, but not really showing any powers.
41:49 --> 41:49 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
41:49 --> 41:50 [SPEAKER_03]: That's my biggest critique.
41:51 --> 41:54 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, we saw it like so we saw more in this episode.
41:54 --> 42:12 [SPEAKER_04]: We got to we got the wormhole and the new planet We saw we've seen how fly we've seen four spills created right I'm telling the VFX budget on this on this series is minimal Java were you when you start to say something?
42:13 --> 42:15 [SPEAKER_02]: No, I was just no hey
42:15 --> 42:17 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, everybody's on point here.
42:17 --> 42:22 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I just, I don't understand why he feels so compelled to give in to this.
42:23 --> 42:26 [SPEAKER_04]: Um, let's see how he's in with and this is.
42:26 --> 42:28 [SPEAKER_03]: Let's talk about the how father's storyline.
42:28 --> 42:29 [SPEAKER_03]: We won't go to specific scenes.
42:29 --> 42:31 [SPEAKER_03]: We'll just cover major themes.
42:31 --> 42:35 [SPEAKER_03]: All right, the how father's storyline is started with the airport in the beginning.
42:36 --> 42:40 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, the, the scene at the end with him picking up the ball, which,
42:42 --> 43:08 [SPEAKER_04]: I think it was supposed to be moving or whatever, but I wish you guys were, you guys were tough, man, you guys were tough, man, you guys were tough, man, you guys were tough, man, you guys were tough, man, you guys were tough, man, you guys were tough, man, you guys were tough, man, you guys were tough, man, you guys were tough, man, you guys were tough, man, you guys were tough, man, you guys were tough, man, you guys were tough, man, you guys were tough, man, you guys were tough, man, you guys were tough, man, you guys were tough, man, you guys were tough, man, you guys were tough, man, you guys were tough, man, you guys were tough, man, you guys were tough, man, you guys were tough, man, you guys were tough, man, you guys were tough, man, you guys were tough, man, you guys were tough, man, you guys were
43:09 --> 43:11 [SPEAKER_04]: that it was like, that meant nothing to me.
43:11 --> 43:25 [SPEAKER_04]: It was just like, I did, I actually liked the whole part with how as a kid and you know, not wanting to give up the ball and then his dad coming in and saying, you know, that's all that matters.
43:26 --> 43:26 [SPEAKER_04]: I love that.
43:26 --> 43:32 [SPEAKER_04]: Like to me, that just explains how in a nutshell.
43:33 --> 43:34 [SPEAKER_04]: And I thought that was great.
43:35 --> 43:36 [SPEAKER_04]: Yep.
43:36 --> 43:38 [SPEAKER_03]: The original love that episode was whack.
43:39 --> 43:43 [SPEAKER_04]: That the what was back everything else about that whole episode.
43:43 --> 43:50 [SPEAKER_05]: So yeah So many issues if you are you checking out are you gonna continue to watch it or are you on the border line like what I'm gonna watch I mean shit.
43:50 --> 43:51 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm seven episodes.
43:51 --> 43:53 [SPEAKER_05]: No, no, I'm just saying about like next season.
43:53 --> 43:55 [SPEAKER_05]: I said it get picked up Let's say it gets picked up.
43:55 --> 43:57 [SPEAKER_04]: You're assuming it's coming back next.
43:57 --> 43:59 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, no, I'm just saying I said let's say I think it's picked up.
43:59 --> 44:03 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah That's a question bridge when we catch this point.
44:03 --> 44:04 [SPEAKER_05]: I just curious.
44:04 --> 44:08 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm just curious if he's right if he's ready to delete button like
44:09 --> 44:12 [SPEAKER_03]: It'll be, if anything, it'll be a fun hate watch to do.
44:12 --> 44:15 [SPEAKER_03]: And we can talk about it.
44:15 --> 44:26 [SPEAKER_03]: And my hope is if it does get picked up for a season two, which based on the numbers, it seems like that it will be that we get more fantastical stuff.
44:26 --> 44:34 [SPEAKER_03]: And if we do, if we do see this as the origin of like the yellow
44:38 --> 44:40 [SPEAKER_04]: Um, and I, I will say this.
44:41 --> 44:42 [SPEAKER_04]: I kind of understand.
44:43 --> 44:51 [SPEAKER_04]: I've come to this conclusion about the off cheapness of this cheapness of this show.
44:53 --> 44:58 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, when, when time Warner merged with discovery,
44:59 --> 45:00 [SPEAKER_04]: they slash the budgets.
45:00 --> 45:01 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, a lot of shows got cut.
45:01 --> 45:06 [SPEAKER_04]: A lot of shows weren't produced because their budgets were too high or didn't come back.
45:06 --> 45:15 [SPEAKER_04]: So I kind of understand, like, yeah, maybe they don't, they don't have the money or they're not giving the money they used to give to produce these shows.
45:15 --> 45:17 [SPEAKER_04]: So you got to do it on a shoe string now.
45:17 --> 45:18 [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
45:18 --> 45:20 [SPEAKER_04]: So I mean, that's what I reason.
45:20 --> 45:23 [SPEAKER_04]: I just feel like if you're going to do a show like
45:30 --> 45:37 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I think that that's a big problem with comic bookheads and all the comics.
45:37 --> 45:41 [SPEAKER_05]: You see, I don't know, so it doesn't bother me, but I know that some people are like, I want to fantastic.
45:41 --> 45:45 [SPEAKER_05]: I want to see more of the stuff that they're accustomed to with the comics.
45:46 --> 45:48 [SPEAKER_03]: But I don't think you need to be a comic book.
45:48 --> 45:51 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not saying, I don't, for me, I don't understand that I think that might be rubbed.
45:51 --> 45:55 [SPEAKER_05]: Because to me, I did get a kind of, okay, so I did imagine smallville.
45:57 --> 46:05 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, Clark, Clark never displays any powers or displays powers 10 times a time.
46:05 --> 46:07 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, yeah, I get it.
46:07 --> 46:09 [SPEAKER_04]: You wouldn't, you would be like, what is this bullshit?
46:10 --> 46:12 [SPEAKER_04]: Because you have another Clark drama.
46:13 --> 46:16 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and you know that's case of white.
46:16 --> 46:16 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
46:17 --> 46:18 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, yeah.
46:18 --> 46:19 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, that's kind of like what I'm saying.
46:19 --> 46:21 [SPEAKER_05]: Like people know, they know the Lord.
46:21 --> 46:27 [SPEAKER_05]: Like the people are in the know, know the Lord of, I mean, Lanterns is not popular like Superman, obviously.
46:28 --> 46:28 [SPEAKER_05]: But no.
46:28 --> 46:36 [SPEAKER_05]: But the people that do know it, they know the Lord, they know the capabilities and other power, it must be frustrating to see them not using those power.
46:36 --> 46:44 [SPEAKER_04]: If you watch Super Friend, if you watch the latest Superman with Guy Gardner, I mean, you know what the lanterns do.
46:44 --> 46:45 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
46:45 --> 46:45 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
46:45 --> 46:46 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
46:46 --> 46:46 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
46:46 --> 46:46 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
46:46 --> 46:47 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
46:52 --> 46:53 [SPEAKER_04]: grounded bullshit.
46:53 --> 46:53 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
46:54 --> 46:54 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
46:54 --> 46:57 [SPEAKER_03]: And that's my drama isn't interesting.
46:57 --> 46:57 [SPEAKER_03]: No.
46:57 --> 46:57 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
46:57 --> 46:58 [SPEAKER_03]: Good boy.
46:59 --> 47:00 [SPEAKER_03]: That and that's my biggest critique.
47:01 --> 47:04 [SPEAKER_03]: That's that's why I went watch.
47:04 --> 47:05 [SPEAKER_03]: I was like, oh, this is cool.
47:06 --> 47:08 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, I take a television show about the lanterns.
47:09 --> 47:09 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
47:09 --> 47:11 [SPEAKER_03]: His mic, my feeling is.
47:12 --> 47:19 [SPEAKER_03]: unless you're a comic book head, Lantern, the Green Lantern, is it one of the premier DC superheroes?
47:19 --> 47:19 [SPEAKER_03]: No.
47:20 --> 47:28 [SPEAKER_03]: Like I kind of feel like Lantern's is to DC with Iron Man and Thor originally were before the MCU blew him up.
47:28 --> 47:29 [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
47:29 --> 47:34 [SPEAKER_04]: When the first Iron Man when we came out, I remember saying, that's the character.
47:34 --> 47:35 [SPEAKER_04]: Right, exactly.
47:35 --> 47:36 [SPEAKER_02]: Right, exactly.
47:36 --> 47:38 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm like, oh, the Marvel character, right.
47:38 --> 47:38 [SPEAKER_02]: That's what you chose.
47:43 --> 47:44 [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, you do.
47:44 --> 47:45 [SPEAKER_05]: He is the one we chose.
47:45 --> 47:48 [SPEAKER_04]: That's the one that's before.
47:48 --> 47:49 [SPEAKER_05]: Don't have Spider-Man.
47:50 --> 47:53 [SPEAKER_05]: They didn't have Hulk at that time.
47:54 --> 47:55 [SPEAKER_05]: No, they didn't have Hulk at that time.
47:55 --> 47:57 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I didn't have Hulk at that time.
47:57 --> 47:59 [SPEAKER_04]: Wasn't it a joint thing?
48:09 --> 48:09 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
48:09 --> 48:10 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's a good point.
48:11 --> 48:21 [SPEAKER_05]: That's a good part of the, I mean, basically, the Marlton now because they're allowed to use milk though, right?
48:21 --> 48:29 [SPEAKER_05]: They got another somewhere rule with universal and and Marvel like they can't do a whole thing all their characters except Spider man.
48:31 --> 48:34 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, they got I thought universal still have the Hulk.
48:35 --> 48:35 [SPEAKER_05]: do they?
48:36 --> 48:37 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I just thought they couldn't use that.
48:37 --> 48:41 [SPEAKER_05]: I thought they reused Hulk, but they can't use Hulk and like a Hulk movie.
48:41 --> 48:45 [SPEAKER_05]: It was a Hulk movie then it has the universal right exactly.
48:45 --> 48:49 [SPEAKER_04]: That's why we've only seen, well, I think Marvel has the right intervention.
48:49 --> 48:52 [SPEAKER_04]: Red Hulk, which is what I think.
48:52 --> 48:54 [SPEAKER_04]: That was a Captain America movie, right?
48:55 --> 48:57 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, it was Captain America.
48:57 --> 48:58 [SPEAKER_05]: It wasn't a red Hulk movie.
48:58 --> 49:00 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, they still don't have it.
49:00 --> 49:01 [SPEAKER_04]: They were still Marvel though.
49:02 --> 49:04 [SPEAKER_04]: Right, but it's kind of like Spider-Man like dead.
49:04 --> 49:08 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, they're they're allowed to use them as long as it's not a Hulk movie.
49:09 --> 49:22 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh Oh, I got you I got you And if it is a Hulk movie, it's got to be a joint production where there are everybody's on the same page and yeah, it's like Spider-Man It's kind of like how to get paid right rightfully so rightfully
49:25 --> 49:46 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, as you just went on a tangent, the original point was the original point was the original point was the original point was lanterns as a DC hero wasn't one of the premier superheroes and so and since they weren't when I heard they were making a television show
49:47 --> 49:54 [SPEAKER_03]: I thought, oh, it'll be, I knew that the lanterns were cosmic and new, you know, because I knew about the green, which you do with the ring and everything.
49:54 --> 49:58 [SPEAKER_03]: So, oh, it'll be cool to see a show with him using this green magic.
49:58 --> 50:04 [SPEAKER_03]: And I knew about, you know, all the jokes about the original movie with Ryan Reynolds.
50:04 --> 50:16 [SPEAKER_03]: And so, from that, I'm sure enough people have heard of that movie or maybe even saw it or seen clips of it, where they have an idea of what green lanterns is all about.
50:17 --> 50:24 [SPEAKER_03]: And so I was expecting, I was expecting like, all the fantastical stuff for the Ryan Reynolds movie without the camp.
50:24 --> 50:29 [SPEAKER_03]: That was going to be something real and grounded enough.
50:29 --> 50:30 [SPEAKER_04]: Just grounded enough.
50:31 --> 50:35 [SPEAKER_04]: And just not the level, at least on the level of fantastic heroes.
50:36 --> 50:36 [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
50:36 --> 50:37 [SPEAKER_03]: We're not asking that.
50:38 --> 50:40 [SPEAKER_04]: It doesn't have to be a feature film fantastic.
50:41 --> 50:44 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't want, I don't want, you know, true detective light.
50:45 --> 50:46 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
50:46 --> 50:47 [SPEAKER_04]: Which is what we're getting.
50:47 --> 50:47 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
50:47 --> 50:47 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
50:47 --> 50:49 [SPEAKER_03]: Because it's not even full-blown treated.
50:49 --> 50:51 [SPEAKER_04]: It's not greedy enough.
50:51 --> 50:51 [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
50:51 --> 50:52 [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
50:52 --> 50:52 [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
50:52 --> 50:53 [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
50:53 --> 50:54 [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
50:54 --> 50:56 [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
50:56 --> 50:56 [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
50:57 --> 50:57 [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
50:57 --> 50:58 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
50:58 --> 50:59 [SPEAKER_03]: That's interesting.
50:59 --> 51:00 [SPEAKER_03]: Those are interesting points.
51:00 --> 51:01 [SPEAKER_03]: Is that a game?
51:01 --> 51:02 [SPEAKER_05]: Is that a game?
51:04 --> 51:10 [SPEAKER_02]: That's a lot of the shots that pick up trucks, driving in the desert and that's what you get to see.
51:11 --> 51:16 [SPEAKER_03]: Right, right, right, right, right or dude's running into a barn and blowing themselves up.
51:19 --> 51:20 [SPEAKER_05]: These super aliens.
51:20 --> 51:21 [SPEAKER_05]: These super smart aliens.
51:21 --> 51:25 [SPEAKER_05]: Let's go, let's go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go.
51:25 --> 51:26 [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, it's your time.
51:26 --> 51:27 [SPEAKER_05]: You got the ball, go.
51:28 --> 51:34 [SPEAKER_03]: It should go a line your timer now right man hunters being taken out by a sniper
51:36 --> 52:00 [SPEAKER_03]: by kiteman is a fiscorech of the universe I'm not going to get 50 cow bullets to take out There's a chance they had to be exterminated by the guardians Right all they really need were few snipers All they need was the brains baby all they need was the brains All they can wrinkly simplify Great
52:01 --> 52:04 [SPEAKER_04]: This is all really one big ad for the Marines, great, right?
52:05 --> 52:11 [SPEAKER_03]: It's essentially, um, so yeah, that's been my issue.
52:12 --> 52:22 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, I do want to talk about, first of all, anything else with father, how and his father, that team, um, we got to understand who hell is.
52:23 --> 52:28 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I kind of dug it, I mean, all the stuff I dig, but it's like the connect, I just
52:30 --> 52:38 [SPEAKER_05]: And next year, I'm just feeling lost that TV show, you know, like we're just kind of reporting in that direction.
52:38 --> 52:40 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, that that's what's kind of wanted why.
52:41 --> 52:46 [SPEAKER_02]: why this episode, why wasn't this, when how was alive, why couldn't we have seen this?
52:46 --> 52:47 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like what?
52:47 --> 52:48 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, why not?
52:48 --> 52:51 [SPEAKER_03]: Or make it the episode after John's flashback episode.
52:51 --> 52:53 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah, that would have been a good.
52:53 --> 52:55 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it would have been a good.
52:55 --> 53:01 [SPEAKER_03]: It would have been a nice, I want to talk about the scene with Carrie, when Carrie sees how.
53:01 --> 53:05 [SPEAKER_03]: I think that was a good bit of acting by Kelly McDonald in that scene.
53:05 --> 53:09 [SPEAKER_03]: her scene how motion that this is unbelievable.
53:10 --> 53:10 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
53:10 --> 53:12 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that kind of stood out to me when I was watching it.
53:12 --> 53:13 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
53:13 --> 53:13 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
53:13 --> 53:18 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, I don't buy holograms theory that she's one who killed him.
53:19 --> 53:20 [SPEAKER_03]: That seems
53:21 --> 53:32 [SPEAKER_05]: Seems out of the blue out of the blue like why would she or misdirection Yeah, I think that this the writer's trying to keep that juggling Well, who's who's the man there wish really because he was here.
53:32 --> 53:36 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna be pissed because So we still don't know what's going on.
53:36 --> 53:42 [SPEAKER_05]: We still don't it's like there's so much that hasn't been revealed It's like we got all these suspects to kid the sheriff
53:43 --> 53:54 [SPEAKER_05]: The only one who's clear is John and they might throw some monkey race in and make him a damn man Wait, they've been telling the story I mean No, there's so much that hasn't been written yet.
53:54 --> 54:04 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean I lend the law Seriously Shocking Yeah, so I thought yeah
54:05 --> 54:09 [SPEAKER_03]: It feels like it's an unnecessary misdirection through it in there.
54:09 --> 54:10 [SPEAKER_03]: Because what if they just had it?
54:10 --> 54:11 [SPEAKER_05]: What if they just had it?
54:11 --> 54:12 [SPEAKER_05]: What if they just had it?
54:12 --> 54:15 [SPEAKER_05]: She turned around and goes, just motherfucker.
54:15 --> 54:18 [SPEAKER_05]: All right.
54:18 --> 54:19 [SPEAKER_05]: This motherfucker, again.
54:21 --> 54:21 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, she's a pandering.
54:21 --> 54:22 [SPEAKER_05]: They just have her pandering.
54:23 --> 54:23 [SPEAKER_04]: That's right.
54:23 --> 54:28 [SPEAKER_04]: They go string us a lot for four or five seasons of this bullshit.
54:28 --> 54:29 [SPEAKER_05]: That would be not good.
54:29 --> 54:29 [SPEAKER_05]: And um.
54:33 --> 54:45 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to bring up her who she is, but if they don't care, they don't tell us the secret of Carol Ferris next episode, that will be frustrating.
54:45 --> 54:52 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, and also, you know, the whole thing with this, the Guardian that has contacted John.
54:52 --> 54:54 [SPEAKER_04]: We just don't feel like episodes.
54:55 --> 54:55 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
54:55 --> 54:56 [SPEAKER_05]: I just feel like,
54:57 --> 55:01 [SPEAKER_05]: They don't, it's like, it's even, I don't even know she's part of the garden.
55:01 --> 55:03 [SPEAKER_05]: Like, just some entity to show it up.
55:04 --> 55:10 [SPEAKER_05]: If I were John, I'd be like, well, why do you want, all that stuff where you got to take the ring and like, why don't you take it?
55:10 --> 55:11 [SPEAKER_05]: Like, why are you happening?
55:11 --> 55:12 [SPEAKER_05]: Why do you have an apprentice?
55:13 --> 55:14 [SPEAKER_05]: The intern take it.
55:14 --> 55:15 [SPEAKER_05]: Don't you want to show it?
55:15 --> 55:16 [SPEAKER_05]: And where's the, where's the rest of the council?
55:17 --> 55:18 [SPEAKER_05]: Where's the rest of the garden?
55:18 --> 55:20 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, man, Diana's just out of the picture.
55:20 --> 55:21 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's like, so there's,
55:22 --> 55:23 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, she needs the things.
55:24 --> 55:32 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, those things are are so hopefully that will hopefully if they bring a lot of stuff back in episode eight That's a lot to be forgiven.
55:32 --> 55:35 [SPEAKER_03]: I was getting annoyed every time bringing it calls.
55:35 --> 55:38 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, God.
55:38 --> 55:41 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, at this point, the junk is run dry
55:43 --> 55:43 [SPEAKER_05]: Where are you?
55:44 --> 55:45 [SPEAKER_05]: Why haven't you?
55:45 --> 55:48 [SPEAKER_05]: Hey John, I need you run by the store real quick and pick up some eggs.
55:48 --> 55:52 [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't get eggs, damn I said the market today and totally forgot I was standing right in front of them.
55:52 --> 55:54 [SPEAKER_05]: Got the cheese, got the, I didn't get the eggs.
55:54 --> 55:55 [SPEAKER_05]: Can you stop by and pick them up?
55:55 --> 55:59 [SPEAKER_03]: All right, you're making sure I'm here because they can't afford the payer to actually be on camera.
55:59 --> 56:01 [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe that's how they keep it on.
56:01 --> 56:02 [SPEAKER_03]: That's how they keep it on.
56:02 --> 56:04 [SPEAKER_05]: Lisa, how do I apply this thing that they don't have money?
56:04 --> 56:11 [SPEAKER_05]: I think the shot, I think it's a boy, the boy should have, I just think it's a choice of what they do on the shoe string budget.
56:12 --> 56:17 [SPEAKER_04]: It is weird that they always, I think part of it's choices, but I also think,
56:18 --> 56:19 [SPEAKER_04]: They don't have the budget.
56:19 --> 56:21 [SPEAKER_04]: They're not spending the money.
56:21 --> 56:24 [SPEAKER_04]: They normally, they would have spent in the past.
56:25 --> 56:30 [SPEAKER_05]: And I also think to what Ron's point to this point to do, to piggyback off what you're saying.
56:30 --> 56:36 [SPEAKER_05]: And I also tied to what Ron has said, this, the Lantern isn't one of the triumphs.
56:37 --> 56:48 [SPEAKER_05]: the truth, you know, the main three, it's not Superman, Wonder Woman or Batman, the truth, you know, so I think that they were, I don't think they knew they were going to have such a successful show.
56:49 --> 56:57 [SPEAKER_05]: I know we're, we're critiquing it, but the ratings don't lie, the, you know, they got, I think it was more successful than they were planning.
56:58 --> 57:07 [SPEAKER_05]: And so that's probably also why the budgets weren't that big because they probably didn't want to spend that money and it's like you got my man I think it was a vehicle to introduce John who's gonna shop in the next Superman.
57:08 --> 57:18 [SPEAKER_03]: He's in the next Superman movie So thank you Wait, where he actually put on a lanterns outfit and the next movie He just be John's this
57:23 --> 57:30 [SPEAKER_05]: So fighting kind of green a green Nike will break a suit fighting kind you in the turn on that
57:34 --> 57:44 [SPEAKER_05]: No, I don't know, I mean, everything's crazy, but I just know that John is supposed to be in the next one and I think the guy who knows if James going will still be right in the studio.
57:44 --> 57:50 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I think he might bounce, especially with the Ishtus going on with Warner Brothers, he might be out and get bounce.
57:50 --> 57:51 [SPEAKER_04]: He is.
57:52 --> 57:55 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, I know, I heard that Ellis went and talked to him and was kind of...
57:57 --> 58:23 [SPEAKER_05]: begging him to stay basically because even though you might not like what he's done with with with with a DC they've been they've been super successful I mean I mean they regardless they've been six besides super girl and again they've only just started I mean they have super man they have super girl the speaker was like one of the first things it was fun and did a lot better than
58:25 --> 58:30 [SPEAKER_05]: So I mean, he has a successful trajectory that's, he's established.
58:30 --> 58:32 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm excited to see Clayface, I think that's going to be kind of dope.
58:33 --> 58:33 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
58:34 --> 58:35 [SPEAKER_05]: So we'll see.
58:35 --> 58:38 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, but, but I don't think he's the elicent type person.
58:39 --> 58:39 [SPEAKER_05]: So.
58:40 --> 58:40 [SPEAKER_05]: Right.
58:41 --> 58:41 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
58:42 --> 58:43 [SPEAKER_05]: We shall see.
58:43 --> 58:45 [SPEAKER_03]: But, you know, I think...
58:48 --> 59:06 [SPEAKER_03]: I hope if they do get picked up for season two that it is I hope they get some hope they get some game and throw and type money just I want to see more battles I want to see more fantastic stuff I'm done with the
59:11 --> 59:13 [SPEAKER_03]: I, I'll say this.
59:13 --> 59:16 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think the writing has really been bad.
59:16 --> 59:18 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I don't think it's great.
59:18 --> 59:20 [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's more the show right or not.
59:20 --> 59:22 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think it's great, but I don't think it's been bad.
59:23 --> 59:28 [SPEAKER_03]: I think I think my issue with writing in the law and King should be shown the door.
59:29 --> 59:32 [SPEAKER_04]: No, I would give them, let's see, let's see how the season ends.
59:32 --> 59:33 [SPEAKER_05]: Let's see how it ends.
59:34 --> 59:36 [SPEAKER_05]: This is my episode to wrap a lot of shit up.
59:36 --> 59:40 [SPEAKER_03]: I do, I'm begging you, I'm begging you, let's see how it ends.
59:40 --> 59:42 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm begging you, I'm begging you, I'm begging you.
59:42 --> 59:45 [SPEAKER_03]: Two, you know, two, a dude's point.
59:46 --> 59:49 [SPEAKER_03]: No, I didn't even make a decision on the decision day.
59:49 --> 59:50 [SPEAKER_03]: So that's still a mystery.
59:50 --> 59:51 [SPEAKER_03]: Right, that's right.
59:52 --> 59:53 [SPEAKER_05]: Right, right, right.
59:54 --> 59:55 [SPEAKER_04]: Everything's a mystery.
59:55 --> 59:56 [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
59:56 --> 01:00:03 [SPEAKER_04]: And the fact that they had a navy head up there, motherfucker, you gotta go, you have to know a senator to get into the naval academy.
01:00:04 --> 01:00:09 [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I mean, they had a Navy hat with the signature on the hats that all the hats on the hats.
01:00:09 --> 01:00:11 [SPEAKER_03]: One of them was very significant to that.
01:00:11 --> 01:00:15 [SPEAKER_05]: I can just kind of pick a school, the whole idea is making a decision for the whole school.
01:00:15 --> 01:00:17 [SPEAKER_05]: He's going to pick up all right, right.
01:00:17 --> 01:00:23 [SPEAKER_04]: So I'm going to, I'm going to USC or I'm going to Nebraska or I'm going to Navy, is anybody can get into the Naval Academy.
01:00:24 --> 01:00:24 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, really?
01:00:24 --> 01:00:24 [SPEAKER_04]: It's.
01:00:24 --> 01:00:25 [SPEAKER_04]: I didn't.
01:00:25 --> 01:00:25 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
01:00:25 --> 01:00:27 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm like, well, who does this motherfucker know?
01:00:27 --> 01:00:28 [SPEAKER_04]: Because makers did.
01:00:28 --> 01:00:30 [SPEAKER_04]: Supposedly the man under his dead.
01:00:30 --> 01:00:33 [SPEAKER_04]: I get it that his mom's a sheriff, but that'll me shit.
01:00:33 --> 01:00:34 [SPEAKER_04]: She's a sheriff of rustville.
01:00:35 --> 01:00:35 [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
01:00:35 --> 01:00:35 [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
01:00:36 --> 01:00:36 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
01:00:37 --> 01:00:37 [SPEAKER_05]: Right.
01:00:37 --> 01:00:39 [SPEAKER_05]: Making my baby make into it.
01:00:40 --> 01:00:41 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm, I'm, I could write that in easy.
01:00:41 --> 01:00:42 [SPEAKER_05]: I could, I could, I could.
01:00:42 --> 01:00:45 [SPEAKER_04]: But they'll never reveal how he got it.
01:00:45 --> 01:00:46 [SPEAKER_04]: So let's count to another mystery.
01:00:47 --> 01:00:47 [SPEAKER_04]: Just know that.
01:00:48 --> 01:00:49 [SPEAKER_03]: We don't know where.
01:00:49 --> 01:00:51 [SPEAKER_04]: I guess he's going to college.
01:00:51 --> 01:00:52 [SPEAKER_03]: We're going to school.
01:00:53 --> 01:00:56 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, even though they've talked about it for three episodes.
01:00:56 --> 01:00:57 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, he is.
01:00:57 --> 01:00:59 [SPEAKER_05]: He's going straight to the the White House.
01:00:59 --> 01:01:01 [SPEAKER_05]: You're going to take over the world.
01:01:01 --> 01:01:02 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm telling you, man.
01:01:02 --> 01:01:02 [SPEAKER_05]: He's a man, Hunter.
01:01:03 --> 01:01:07 [SPEAKER_03]: Mr. How does he necessarily get out of jail?
01:01:08 --> 01:01:37 [SPEAKER_03]: what what's going on with Sinestro on the planet what is that oh well I assume that planet is Anton's plan we know that um but we more information about like why Sinestro is there Carol Ferris um it will be a mystery no no who shot who shot who shot who shot how killed him yep for um and I was gonna say we're that Carrie did but that kind of falls under who shot him um
01:01:38 --> 01:01:42 [SPEAKER_05]: But he's got his, well, I mean, it's father who's a man hundred, but what's so scary?
01:01:43 --> 01:01:45 [SPEAKER_04]: Who, who this Maggie character is?
01:01:45 --> 01:01:48 [SPEAKER_03]: Who, who, who, who Maggie is like, why the fuck is Maggie?
01:01:48 --> 01:01:51 [SPEAKER_04]: And why is she so integral to the story?
01:01:51 --> 01:01:54 [SPEAKER_03]: I know, I mean, in fact that they introduced her like in the last,
01:01:55 --> 01:01:56 [SPEAKER_03]: third of the season.
01:01:57 --> 01:01:57 [SPEAKER_05]: Right.
01:01:57 --> 01:01:58 [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
01:01:58 --> 01:01:59 [SPEAKER_05]: That's five things right there.
01:01:59 --> 01:02:01 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's at least five.
01:02:02 --> 01:02:04 [SPEAKER_02]: And I was saying that the Indiana the Guardian.
01:02:05 --> 01:02:05 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
01:02:05 --> 01:02:06 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, it's got six.
01:02:06 --> 01:02:07 [SPEAKER_02]: That's six.
01:02:08 --> 01:02:08 [SPEAKER_02]: How are you?
01:02:11 --> 01:02:13 [SPEAKER_05]: It's it don't it don't answer three of them.
01:02:13 --> 01:02:14 [SPEAKER_05]: The shit is that.
01:02:14 --> 01:02:16 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't answer three of those questions.
01:02:18 --> 01:02:18 [SPEAKER_04]: It's going to be.
01:02:19 --> 01:02:19 [SPEAKER_03]: It's
01:02:20 --> 01:02:27 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm telling you, I mean, do you count it as a mystery as to why Britain debt and John's.
01:02:28 --> 01:02:29 [SPEAKER_03]: I was going to say the parents too.
01:02:29 --> 01:02:31 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the parents just we're there.
01:02:31 --> 01:02:32 [SPEAKER_03]: We don't see him anymore.
01:02:32 --> 01:02:38 [SPEAKER_03]: Like the first three or four episodes, they were so into the end.
01:02:38 --> 01:02:40 [SPEAKER_05]: They said the budget is hard.
01:02:40 --> 01:02:42 [SPEAKER_04]: That sag's going to be tough, baby.
01:02:42 --> 01:02:43 [SPEAKER_04]: They have the same money somewhere.
01:02:43 --> 01:02:46 [SPEAKER_04]: They're probably using AI for voice too.
01:02:47 --> 01:02:48 [SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, 11 labs.
01:02:48 --> 01:02:50 [SPEAKER_03]: 11 labs and produce that.
01:02:50 --> 01:02:50 [SPEAKER_03]: Anyway.
01:02:51 --> 01:02:53 [SPEAKER_04]: They were able to pay Laura Lennie for three episodes.
01:02:53 --> 01:02:54 [SPEAKER_04]: That's right.
01:02:54 --> 01:02:54 [SPEAKER_05]: Right.
01:02:54 --> 01:02:55 [SPEAKER_05]: You may be right.
01:02:55 --> 01:02:57 [SPEAKER_05]: That's a good boy.
01:02:57 --> 01:03:01 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm telling you, I don't think they knew they had, they were going to have such a big hit on their hands.
01:03:01 --> 01:03:03 [SPEAKER_05]: And so they were like, you let's just get this.
01:03:03 --> 01:03:08 [SPEAKER_05]: So Gustav is John, he's coming to the next Superman movie, and then we'll just keep it moving.
01:03:08 --> 01:03:11 [SPEAKER_05]: And then it turns out to be the number one show on HBO and like, oh shit.
01:03:11 --> 01:03:13 [SPEAKER_05]: Now it's like, you know, now it's like, you people are clamoring for a movie.
01:03:13 --> 01:03:14 [SPEAKER_05]: They're in the show.
01:03:14 --> 01:03:16 [SPEAKER_05]: So it's not like, thank you for that.
01:03:16 --> 01:03:18 [SPEAKER_04]: Number one show on HBO, there's nothing else on right now.
01:03:18 --> 01:03:21 [SPEAKER_05]: I doesn't matter, I'm just saying it's still, it's not like it's fiction.
01:03:21 --> 01:03:22 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't think it's anything.
01:03:23 --> 01:03:28 [SPEAKER_03]: But if numbers are tracking as well as being the driver, they do, they do the drama.
01:03:28 --> 01:03:31 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I'm talking about shows.
01:03:32 --> 01:03:34 [SPEAKER_03]: I know, Jackie, but you're right.
01:03:34 --> 01:03:36 [SPEAKER_03]: Is there another show on each beer right now that is?
01:03:37 --> 01:03:37 [SPEAKER_04]: Nope.
01:03:38 --> 01:03:39 [SPEAKER_03]: No, because this is their semi-night.
01:03:39 --> 01:03:40 [SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, it's doing so.
01:03:40 --> 01:03:42 [SPEAKER_05]: Potters going to start in a little bit.
01:03:42 --> 01:03:43 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
01:03:43 --> 01:03:45 [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I think Potter is going to blow this show.
01:03:45 --> 01:03:47 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah, it'll blow every show.
01:03:47 --> 01:03:47 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah.
01:03:47 --> 01:03:48 [SPEAKER_05]: It's like, yeah.
01:03:49 --> 01:03:53 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm still wondering whether or not I went to cover that show.
01:03:53 --> 01:04:01 [SPEAKER_04]: I feel like I don't think we should give any oxygen to a J. K. Yeah, we're going to talk about that later.
01:04:01 --> 01:04:03 [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe we'll have all episodes debating whether or not to cover it.
01:04:04 --> 01:04:06 [SPEAKER_03]: But a whole episode.
01:04:07 --> 01:04:08 [SPEAKER_03]: Sure, or a sign.
01:04:09 --> 01:04:13 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, at the so, whether we're going to cover something or not, that's riveting.
01:04:13 --> 01:04:14 [SPEAKER_05]: That's a riveting place.
01:04:14 --> 01:04:15 [SPEAKER_04]: No, how we go.
01:04:15 --> 01:04:16 [SPEAKER_03]: It can easily be.
01:04:17 --> 01:04:19 [SPEAKER_04]: We spend the turn in the something else.
01:04:19 --> 01:04:20 [SPEAKER_05]: It wouldn't happen.
01:04:20 --> 01:04:21 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I wouldn't.
01:04:21 --> 01:04:24 [SPEAKER_05]: You just throw it down on the table and it will morph into some new.
01:04:25 --> 01:04:26 [SPEAKER_03]: We spend 30 minutes debating how.
01:04:30 --> 01:04:31 [SPEAKER_03]: uh, Nolan shot the Odyssey.
01:04:32 --> 01:04:37 [SPEAKER_03]: I think the controversy type of the one that this counts in isn't a direct.
01:04:37 --> 01:04:39 [SPEAKER_03]: That one that discounts even going to see the movie.
01:04:39 --> 01:04:40 [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
01:04:41 --> 01:04:54 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, I mean, so overall, did we like the do you do like the person, JD did you like the episodes that I did I dug it, but but I I'm not gonna argue any of the things point you got you guys making a good point.
01:04:54 --> 01:04:55 [SPEAKER_05]: I just enjoy watching them.
01:04:55 --> 01:04:57 [SPEAKER_03]: They're interacting with us.
01:04:57 --> 01:05:03 [SPEAKER_03]: I just want more and I was getting tired of the rowing in the late and I went 20 minutes too.
01:05:05 --> 01:05:07 [SPEAKER_03]: They were on that lake too long forever.
01:05:08 --> 01:05:10 [SPEAKER_03]: That is he's growing so slowly, too.
01:05:10 --> 01:05:10 [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
01:05:11 --> 01:05:11 [SPEAKER_03]: This point.
01:05:11 --> 01:05:12 [SPEAKER_03]: I can't go like here.
01:05:12 --> 01:05:16 [SPEAKER_03]: I kind of felt like he was that low scene from a little mermaid.
01:05:18 --> 01:05:19 [SPEAKER_03]: I was.
01:05:19 --> 01:05:20 [SPEAKER_03]: I feel like when it.
01:05:20 --> 01:05:22 [SPEAKER_03]: No, we've seen him.
01:05:22 --> 01:05:24 [SPEAKER_03]: I think you're across two ways.
01:05:26 --> 01:05:27 [SPEAKER_03]: He don't got a lot to say.
01:05:27 --> 01:05:37 [SPEAKER_04]: But this guy was, are these, is this the fucking, who's the Greek, are the Roman, so remember sticks?
01:05:38 --> 01:05:38 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, right.
01:05:38 --> 01:05:39 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, right.
01:05:39 --> 01:05:41 [SPEAKER_04]: This carousel like the Greek, right?
01:05:41 --> 01:05:41 [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
01:05:42 --> 01:05:46 [SPEAKER_05]: The thing that made for when he said that boat he kept saying the boat.
01:05:46 --> 01:05:50 [SPEAKER_05]: So I'm like waiting to dig it to like a someone outboard motor or something.
01:05:50 --> 01:05:52 [SPEAKER_05]: This bigger guy and we got him a canoe.
01:05:52 --> 01:05:53 [SPEAKER_05]: That had me rolling.
01:05:53 --> 01:05:57 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm like oh, and also catch on this entire way.
01:05:57 --> 01:05:59 [SPEAKER_03]: I assumed it would be a bigger boat.
01:05:59 --> 01:06:05 [SPEAKER_03]: We're going to need a bigger boat to even get back to the top of the ocean.
01:06:05 --> 01:06:07 [SPEAKER_02]: How hologram should have looked at him.
01:06:08 --> 01:06:09 [SPEAKER_02]: The how hologram should have been.
01:06:10 --> 01:06:11 [SPEAKER_02]: How did you even see that?
01:06:11 --> 01:06:13 [SPEAKER_02]: This is a top another thing in there.
01:06:13 --> 01:06:15 [SPEAKER_02]: That's a good mystery house.
01:06:15 --> 01:06:17 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if I should be able to see it, but why should he?
01:06:17 --> 01:06:18 [SPEAKER_02]: He's like a man.
01:06:18 --> 01:06:25 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not saying you're waiting that the fact that he can, are you even saying you're waiting at the fact that you can see it is a tease of his powers?
01:06:28 --> 01:06:29 [SPEAKER_03]: Or that it was all in his mind.
01:06:31 --> 01:06:39 [SPEAKER_03]: If that's true, if the fact that he saw a boat so far away is like a tease to his pressure powers, again, that's stupid.
01:06:42 --> 01:06:43 [SPEAKER_03]: Why are people in the boat?
01:06:43 --> 01:06:58 [SPEAKER_05]: It was like a bad angle because it's like maybe it could have been sold if he was like looking off to decide or something right But they were over the shoulder looking straight down The better they were on the hill or something Yeah, yeah, it's like If I go on the salt plants That's the above
01:07:01 --> 01:07:15 [SPEAKER_04]: as far as that he was in a large parking lot horizon has curved down exactly you wouldn't even see that both are like what both are they talking about I just see a green I don't know the light house can look like a green light house is spinning
01:07:17 --> 01:07:22 [SPEAKER_02]: And they could try to attribute it to the fact that he's a sniper, but I don't think that's not good enough to me.
01:07:22 --> 01:07:23 [SPEAKER_02]: That's not good.
01:07:23 --> 01:07:25 [SPEAKER_02]: Dude, he had like a slow vision.
01:07:26 --> 01:07:27 [SPEAKER_05]: He had a slow heartbeat.
01:07:28 --> 01:07:32 [SPEAKER_04]: And let me tell you, that whole lake looked cheap.
01:07:33 --> 01:07:34 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh.
01:07:34 --> 01:07:36 [SPEAKER_04]: You saw they made it, right?
01:07:36 --> 01:07:36 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
01:07:36 --> 01:07:37 [SPEAKER_04]: And it looked like that.
01:07:37 --> 01:07:38 [SPEAKER_04]: That's what it looked like.
01:07:38 --> 01:07:40 [SPEAKER_04]: A parking lot flooded with water.
01:07:40 --> 01:07:40 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
01:07:41 --> 01:07:45 [SPEAKER_04]: They had the, I mean, the TLC don't go chasing waterfalls.
01:07:47 --> 01:07:48 [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
01:07:48 --> 01:07:50 [SPEAKER_04]: The profile of him rowing.
01:07:51 --> 01:07:51 [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
01:07:52 --> 01:07:52 [SPEAKER_04]: Chief.
01:07:53 --> 01:07:53 [SPEAKER_04]: Where you at?
01:07:53 --> 01:07:54 [SPEAKER_04]: On your off camera, brother.
01:07:54 --> 01:07:55 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm trying to fix my leg.
01:07:56 --> 01:07:56 [UNKNOWN]: Hmm.
01:07:57 --> 01:07:57 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
01:07:58 --> 01:07:58 [SPEAKER_04]: Rividing content.
01:07:58 --> 01:07:59 [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
01:07:59 --> 01:07:59 [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
01:07:59 --> 01:08:00 [SPEAKER_03]: It's right.
01:08:01 --> 01:08:02 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, the listeners.
01:08:02 --> 01:08:04 [SPEAKER_03]: The listeners can't see.
01:08:04 --> 01:08:05 [SPEAKER_05]: What about our viewers, dude?
01:08:06 --> 01:08:06 [SPEAKER_05]: What about our viewers?
01:08:07 --> 01:08:08 [SPEAKER_05]: Right.
01:08:08 --> 01:08:08 [SPEAKER_05]: A pleasure.
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01:08:11 --> 01:08:12 [SPEAKER_05]: Right.
01:08:14 --> 01:08:16 [SPEAKER_04]: It's just trying to be crazy.
01:08:16 --> 01:08:18 [SPEAKER_04]: And we just lost five.
01:08:21 --> 01:08:23 [SPEAKER_05]: No, that was we lost five in the first day.
01:08:23 --> 01:08:25 [SPEAKER_05]: Don't don't post on 30 minutes dude out of kill us.
01:08:26 --> 01:08:34 [SPEAKER_04]: You like I thought this it was about land is what the hell is that it's talking about right right what did we talk about this for?
01:08:35 --> 01:08:38 [SPEAKER_03]: Where did we be oh yeah, why was JD shaking just for no when I was
01:08:40 --> 01:08:43 [SPEAKER_03]: The boat, the boat is talking about the boat boat in the lake.
01:08:43 --> 01:08:46 [SPEAKER_05]: It was like, I just thought that was it, I don't know.
01:08:46 --> 01:08:50 [SPEAKER_05]: There's something about the riding, I guess that's going but I hate to keep beating this dead horse.
01:08:50 --> 01:08:52 [SPEAKER_05]: But it's like, it's these little things.
01:08:52 --> 01:09:06 [SPEAKER_05]: He's letting me of things that are just like, why this little canoe, and it's, I mean, it's just, I'm sorry, yeah, it's just choices, you know, choices are interesting, even, it could have even been a robot with two ores.
01:09:06 --> 01:09:06 [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
01:09:07 --> 01:09:10 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, why do we we're in a Native American canoe?
01:09:10 --> 01:09:21 [SPEAKER_05]: It's like it's all the 1800s could know my what is just a difference of that like yes And I'll probably nothing you know, it's like it's nothing burger.
01:09:21 --> 01:09:25 [SPEAKER_04]: It's not a miracle and then it makes you think why did they make that choice?
01:09:25 --> 01:09:34 [SPEAKER_05]: And the thing is, if we're in this futuristic, there's a society up above you hanging in the air, there's, you know, the Cloud City up above you.
01:09:34 --> 01:09:44 [SPEAKER_05]: You've got a damn Native American boat on the, there should have been, it could have been a dope future outside boat boat, it's like, yeah, we're in a planet, and there's a canoe.
01:09:45 --> 01:09:45 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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01:10:16 --> 01:10:19 [SPEAKER_04]: of who the father John said.
01:10:19 --> 01:10:20 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:10:20 --> 01:10:21 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
01:10:22 --> 01:10:22 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, right.
01:10:22 --> 01:10:23 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:10:23 --> 01:10:24 [SPEAKER_03]: We need to flashback.
01:10:24 --> 01:10:24 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:10:24 --> 01:10:26 [SPEAKER_03]: Or the quick class.
01:10:26 --> 01:10:29 [SPEAKER_05]: And then we're able to get down from a previous episode.
01:10:29 --> 01:10:29 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
01:10:29 --> 01:10:31 [SPEAKER_04]: That's not even a featured wage.
01:10:32 --> 01:10:32 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
01:10:32 --> 01:10:33 [SPEAKER_04]: Probably AI too.
01:10:33 --> 01:10:37 [SPEAKER_03]: I hope it was.
01:10:38 --> 01:10:39 [SPEAKER_04]: It was.
01:10:39 --> 01:10:40 [SPEAKER_04]: They were paying for that.
01:10:40 --> 01:10:40 [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
01:10:40 --> 01:10:41 [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
01:10:41 --> 01:10:41 [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
01:10:43 --> 01:10:43 [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
01:10:43 --> 01:10:44 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, well.
01:10:45 --> 01:10:47 [SPEAKER_03]: I think we covered all of the important aspects.
01:10:48 --> 01:10:52 [SPEAKER_03]: We got at least, it sounds like about half dozen mysteries.
01:10:53 --> 01:10:54 [SPEAKER_03]: The biggest one being where I know is going to go.
01:10:58 --> 01:11:07 [SPEAKER_04]: And we have another mini mystery in the Carrie ever make it to her party.
01:11:09 --> 01:11:10 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I admit, I meant to bring it up.
01:11:10 --> 01:11:14 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, they dropped all that extra went to the warehouse.
01:11:14 --> 01:11:15 [SPEAKER_05]: Right.
01:11:15 --> 01:11:16 [SPEAKER_05]: That's a good point.
01:11:17 --> 01:11:24 [SPEAKER_05]: First of all, I don't even, I'll give him grace on this because the opening scene of an episode eight might be what are you at?
01:11:24 --> 01:11:33 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, that was so close, but to do this point, if they don't answer that, it's like, OK, they've made it seem so important that she had to be there.
01:11:33 --> 01:11:34 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I know.
01:11:34 --> 01:11:36 [SPEAKER_03]: At the party, or are we?
01:11:36 --> 01:11:37 [SPEAKER_04]: at the party.
01:11:37 --> 01:11:41 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I thought it was worth she didn't have to show her face.
01:11:41 --> 01:11:54 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, the show her face with I thought yeah I kind of got that like because he could jump up about a nowhere and she has like hundreds of people or whatever Why make those are hundreds of people come to her house it's like where's your mom?
01:11:56 --> 01:11:57 [SPEAKER_05]: No, yeah, I can't believe he was there.
01:11:58 --> 01:12:01 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean you can't just have police work
01:12:02 --> 01:12:08 [SPEAKER_04]: police work, but everybody in town was out of house, so I don't know, I just don't know why they highlighted it.
01:12:08 --> 01:12:20 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I got to be in my house, I thought it was weird that she wanted to go with them to the storage facility in the first place, like why did she need to go so badly?
01:12:20 --> 01:12:22 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, she wanted to set out the day included in it.
01:12:24 --> 01:12:45 [SPEAKER_03]: They include her how the grandma wanted her to go to kind of to stay in the hologram trust me the hologram thought she was a fake Yeah, I don't think the hologram wanted her to go to this he just wanted to talk to her I don't think he was invested I can go back and look at him But you invested in her going to the storage you think because she's the guy in the car.
01:12:45 --> 01:12:46 [SPEAKER_05]: I said she killed me.
01:12:46 --> 01:12:47 [SPEAKER_05]: She's the one to did it.
01:12:47 --> 01:12:47 [SPEAKER_05]: I know we're cold
01:12:48 --> 01:13:08 [SPEAKER_04]: her character with her character they've always implied that she's not she knows more than she's yes yes sir so it was almost like her insistence you go with them to figure out what was in the box that's a good point I mean another mystery and what is it and what I still think
01:13:09 --> 01:13:11 [SPEAKER_05]: There might be a slight chance that she's the man under.
01:13:12 --> 01:13:16 [SPEAKER_05]: It's like, they're leaving that door because because they could just think about it.
01:13:17 --> 01:13:18 [SPEAKER_05]: We were looking at that little Zoey.
01:13:19 --> 01:13:27 [SPEAKER_05]: Zoey and everything was played up and oh, Zoey, but it might not have been, that might have been all part of the man under his plan.
01:13:28 --> 01:13:31 [SPEAKER_05]: Like to be direct and ask you to help.
01:13:31 --> 01:13:34 [SPEAKER_03]: Man hunters get intimate with someone.
01:13:34 --> 01:13:35 [SPEAKER_03]: And we know that.
01:13:35 --> 01:13:36 [SPEAKER_03]: Most powerful.
01:13:36 --> 01:13:37 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
01:13:40 --> 01:13:43 [SPEAKER_03]: What if that would be a cool review?
01:13:43 --> 01:13:51 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, because here's the thing, what the hell found out she was the man, he really finally found out she's the man on her, or something happened, and she had to take them out.
01:13:51 --> 01:13:55 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, we did suspect her early after episode two.
01:13:56 --> 01:14:01 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and they did a misdirect by saying how did like check up on her or something.
01:14:01 --> 01:14:04 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, background check.
01:14:04 --> 01:14:05 [SPEAKER_03]: That could be cool.
01:14:05 --> 01:14:08 [SPEAKER_03]: And she, and she, and sometimes I only made a character that hasn't had a backster.
01:14:09 --> 01:14:15 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, no, they shouldn't have been there in the cafe, but that could have been a lie.
01:14:15 --> 01:14:16 [SPEAKER_05]: She could have been just spinning a tail.
01:14:17 --> 01:14:19 [SPEAKER_04]: Well, no, they showed it as if it were her.
01:14:20 --> 01:14:21 [SPEAKER_04]: She was coming from Gotham.
01:14:22 --> 01:14:26 [SPEAKER_05]: But wasn't, but wasn't Zoe telling somebody about that?
01:14:28 --> 01:14:37 [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, I thought she was telling John or I thought the reason we were seeing that was because it was being explained to one of the, like, John or somebody.
01:14:38 --> 01:14:50 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I just imagine that, or what if episode eight opens with the same scene, but it's reversed and we realize of her and Diner?
01:14:51 --> 01:14:56 [SPEAKER_03]: And the diner, but it was really carry was the one that was the man in the summer.
01:14:57 --> 01:15:00 [SPEAKER_03]: And the summer was the was the one coming in, running away.
01:15:01 --> 01:15:02 [SPEAKER_03]: Interesting.
01:15:02 --> 01:15:02 [SPEAKER_04]: Could be.
01:15:03 --> 01:15:04 [SPEAKER_03]: That would be dope.
01:15:04 --> 01:15:05 [SPEAKER_03]: It's not going to happen.
01:15:05 --> 01:15:06 [SPEAKER_03]: Better be cool.
01:15:07 --> 01:15:08 [SPEAKER_03]: When you feel cheated.
01:15:08 --> 01:15:09 [SPEAKER_03]: When you feel cheated.
01:15:09 --> 01:15:11 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, that's a good point.
01:15:11 --> 01:15:12 [SPEAKER_03]: That's a good point.
01:15:12 --> 01:15:13 [SPEAKER_03]: It wouldn't be dope.
01:15:13 --> 01:15:15 [SPEAKER_03]: It would be depending on how they do it.
01:15:16 --> 01:15:17 [SPEAKER_03]: I think it would be an easy way out.
01:15:20 --> 01:15:33 [SPEAKER_05]: critiques about the fact that what if what if all the snow is gone were back at the high school bleachers and now John has a bullet in his temple that opened up like that that would be horrible.
01:15:36 --> 01:15:38 [SPEAKER_04]: because everything was a drug.
01:15:38 --> 01:15:48 [SPEAKER_03]: It was all a drug, but seriously, Kerry, if you look at Kerry being, if Kerry was the man hunter, it would explain why she would kill Halb, even though she still loved him.
01:15:49 --> 01:15:56 [SPEAKER_03]: It would explain why they felt Halb, the hologram had to even mention it when it doesn't seem like, when it seemed to out of the blue.
01:15:57 --> 01:15:57 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:15:58 --> 01:15:59 [SPEAKER_03]: If you retrace your steps,
01:16:01 --> 01:16:26 [SPEAKER_03]: Because what makes a mystery good is if you retrace your steps and you can see where you would have figured out Kaiser so say yes right right so if they Kaiser so see it and it's like oh yeah and this scene that's true and this scene that's true like all the different scenes I mean he still has a connection because the sign is her son right that you know like it wasn't always kid is always been her son laying this
01:16:27 --> 01:16:27 [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
01:16:28 --> 01:16:31 [SPEAKER_04]: Why did she try to get how the leave so badly man.
01:16:31 --> 01:16:33 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, that was good.
01:16:33 --> 01:16:36 [SPEAKER_03]: That was going to kill him.
01:16:36 --> 01:16:37 [SPEAKER_03]: That was explained.
01:16:37 --> 01:16:40 [SPEAKER_03]: If her she was a man hunter, that would be why she wouldn't want a lantern there.
01:16:41 --> 01:16:42 [SPEAKER_03]: But why wouldn't she just destroy them?
01:16:44 --> 01:16:54 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, because I think I think the idea, impression I'm getting is that even even was always character, let's just say, for example, she is the average and she's the man hunter.
01:16:56 --> 01:16:59 [SPEAKER_05]: I get the feeling that her mission or whatever is over.
01:16:59 --> 01:17:01 [SPEAKER_05]: She just wants to live a peaceful life.
01:17:01 --> 01:17:02 [SPEAKER_05]: She's going to help these people.
01:17:03 --> 01:17:05 [SPEAKER_05]: She's not doing whatever she did before, huh?
01:17:05 --> 01:17:06 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, okay.
01:17:06 --> 01:17:08 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm just saying she wants to be left alone.
01:17:09 --> 01:17:10 [SPEAKER_05]: But the problem is that if...
01:17:11 --> 01:17:35 [SPEAKER_05]: My take on it is that if lanterns find out there's a man hunter that is supposed to be decommissioned or whatever They're gonna go in and and get that man hunter and so I can see a man hunter being smart not only tough But smart playing everybody and like because Zoe was playing everybody, but that could have been Zoe could have been the patchy for the real man hunter Are you saying all this is a rules?
01:17:35 --> 01:17:40 [SPEAKER_04]: I'd be saying even making saying she saved my life is a right thing.
01:17:40 --> 01:17:47 [SPEAKER_04]: I think that I think that I think yeah, I think a man on her will be tomorrow's where in snow globe shit.
01:17:47 --> 01:17:49 [SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean?
01:17:49 --> 01:17:51 [SPEAKER_04]: You remember last episode of St.
01:17:51 --> 01:17:51 [SPEAKER_04]: Elsewhere?
01:17:52 --> 01:17:54 [SPEAKER_04]: Pulls out and the hospital's in a snow globe.
01:17:54 --> 01:17:56 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh no, it was for St.
01:17:56 --> 01:17:58 [SPEAKER_03]: Elsewhere, it was all the dream.
01:17:59 --> 01:17:59 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, really?
01:17:59 --> 01:18:00 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:18:00 --> 01:18:01 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I didn't know that.
01:18:06 --> 01:18:06 [SPEAKER_03]: Give it a dude.
01:18:06 --> 01:18:08 [SPEAKER_04]: I was gonna watch that 40 years ago.
01:18:08 --> 01:18:18 [SPEAKER_03]: You're already ruined different strokes for me this special two-part episode.
01:18:19 --> 01:18:31 [SPEAKER_03]: I do think if carry is the man hunter They have made it place enough clues where it would track because she was I mean honestly She was one of the suspected
01:18:32 --> 01:18:39 [SPEAKER_03]: He was early on and then they did that they, you know, threw you off the cent by specifically having the line.
01:18:40 --> 01:18:41 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I already did her background check with, whatever.
01:18:42 --> 01:18:44 [SPEAKER_05]: And I could also see someone like Zoey.
01:18:45 --> 01:18:47 [SPEAKER_05]: Zoey seems more because of her ethnicity.
01:18:48 --> 01:18:53 [SPEAKER_05]: I can see her coming from New York and they just swap stories to like, right, you know.
01:18:54 --> 01:18:56 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I understand they try to lay the groundwork.
01:18:56 --> 01:18:57 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I'm gonna come in as it.
01:18:57 --> 01:18:59 [SPEAKER_05]: But why Indian woman it?
01:18:59 --> 01:19:00 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, there's other things it could.
01:19:00 --> 01:19:02 [SPEAKER_04]: It just like she served.
01:19:02 --> 01:19:04 [SPEAKER_04]: That was the most disarming disguise.
01:19:04 --> 01:19:04 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
01:19:05 --> 01:19:18 [SPEAKER_04]: It would just assume, although it would make sense that the man hunter would take this, I mean, Carrie claims that Zoe helped her become sheriff.
01:19:18 --> 01:19:19 [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
01:19:22 --> 01:19:33 [SPEAKER_04]: but it would make sense that the manhunter would assume this position of authority where this fee or it would never be suspected of doing anyone harm.
01:19:33 --> 01:19:33 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
01:19:34 --> 01:19:40 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, the trusted, you know, they've strong as a long for seven episodes.
01:19:40 --> 01:19:42 [SPEAKER_04]: Hair a piece, you know, the whole shit.
01:19:42 --> 01:19:43 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
01:19:43 --> 01:19:45 [SPEAKER_04]: And to me, that's a little cheap.
01:19:46 --> 01:19:47 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.
01:19:47 --> 01:19:49 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, here's the man, Hunter.
01:19:49 --> 01:19:51 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, it just depends on how they reveal it.
01:19:51 --> 01:19:51 [SPEAKER_05]: Right.
01:19:51 --> 01:19:53 [SPEAKER_05]: Because she has been a suspect.
01:19:53 --> 01:19:56 [SPEAKER_05]: We, like you said, do we, we're suspecting her, since episode two.
01:19:56 --> 01:20:04 [SPEAKER_05]: So if it, so that comes full circle, that could be kind of, that could be kind of redeeming for this, for this season.
01:20:05 --> 01:20:13 [SPEAKER_05]: But I still think they need more to, I mean, it's working towards, I don't know, just so many questions just like, I'm more than they're going to need more than that.
01:20:13 --> 01:20:18 [SPEAKER_04]: Because yeah, because we're seeing where she's shooting at how and he's like, what are you doing?
01:20:18 --> 01:20:21 [SPEAKER_04]: And she's like, because they're watching us or something like that.
01:20:22 --> 01:20:23 [SPEAKER_04]: I think about it.
01:20:24 --> 01:20:25 [SPEAKER_04]: It could be.
01:20:26 --> 01:20:27 [SPEAKER_03]: Now you're convincing yourself.
01:20:28 --> 01:20:31 [SPEAKER_03]: Boy, I am actually because it could be a me who's wrong.
01:20:31 --> 01:20:32 [SPEAKER_05]: I got a whole new plot.
01:20:32 --> 01:20:34 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to run this show.
01:20:34 --> 01:20:35 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to do something.
01:20:35 --> 01:20:40 [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe Hal found out she was the manager and that's why she killed him.
01:20:41 --> 01:20:42 [SPEAKER_03]: Like she really did love him.
01:20:43 --> 01:20:51 [SPEAKER_03]: And there, and I saw someone shared on the just the lower hands discord, a screenshot of the look she had when she first sees how.
01:20:53 --> 01:21:13 [SPEAKER_03]: And it's a hologram or the hologram or the hologram, the hologram where she's in the cat in the dining room or whatever she sees her in the chemistry class and she sees the hologram and there's a look this there's a screen grab with a look and it's I mean it can be read anyway it can be like, oh, there's a surprise
01:21:15 --> 01:21:16 [SPEAKER_03]: It's like what the fuck?
01:21:16 --> 01:21:17 [SPEAKER_03]: It's a what the fuck.
01:21:17 --> 01:21:19 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah, man hunter.
01:21:19 --> 01:21:26 [SPEAKER_04]: So you tell me a man hunter can't discern how a ground from the real how It's an extra kid.
01:21:26 --> 01:21:27 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.
01:21:27 --> 01:21:31 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, these are questions that have not been answered.
01:21:31 --> 01:21:33 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, as far as you know, it's an extra
01:21:34 --> 01:21:39 [SPEAKER_04]: He, we don't know what that whole planet thing was yet.
01:21:40 --> 01:21:41 [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
01:21:41 --> 01:21:45 [SPEAKER_05]: And we don't really know what man hunters are either, because the way they hold up.
01:21:45 --> 01:21:47 [SPEAKER_03]: Some of them, they're just like humans.
01:21:47 --> 01:21:52 [SPEAKER_05]: And you know what, there might be more, because here's the thing that that's so convincing about Zoe.
01:21:52 --> 01:21:56 [SPEAKER_05]: Remember, she's the one that repaired, Aaron repaired John when he got burned up.
01:21:57 --> 01:22:01 [SPEAKER_04]: And she dropped her blood, but only because she had the technology.
01:22:01 --> 01:22:03 [SPEAKER_05]: I know, but she had to put her blood.
01:22:03 --> 01:22:06 [SPEAKER_05]: She, you know, she did her blood and dropped it in on him.
01:22:06 --> 01:22:09 [SPEAKER_03]: We don't know that was her blood.
01:22:10 --> 01:22:11 [SPEAKER_05]: We didn't see her prick herself.
01:22:12 --> 01:22:13 [SPEAKER_05]: I thought we did.
01:22:13 --> 01:22:14 [SPEAKER_05]: I thought we saw a prick herself.
01:22:14 --> 01:22:15 [SPEAKER_05]: She dropped it on me.
01:22:15 --> 01:22:16 [SPEAKER_04]: Come in.
01:22:16 --> 01:22:17 [SPEAKER_04]: We just have to come in.
01:22:17 --> 01:22:18 [SPEAKER_04]: She can have a look.
01:22:18 --> 01:22:18 [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
01:22:20 --> 01:22:36 [SPEAKER_05]: and she has access to the technology the way making did so that doesn't necessarily mean anything right yeah that could be one of the so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so
01:22:41 --> 01:22:46 [SPEAKER_05]: Wait, I might have checked out on those episodes, like did she always have a high power with the result?
01:22:46 --> 01:22:49 [SPEAKER_04]: We're in the whole battle, the whole battle is on and out.
01:22:49 --> 01:22:50 [SPEAKER_04]: He's on and out.
01:22:50 --> 01:22:52 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he's on and out.
01:22:52 --> 01:22:56 [SPEAKER_03]: And the other thing was the tower to get me like Steve Jobs and one more thing.
01:22:57 --> 01:23:00 [SPEAKER_03]: The other thing that suggests she was a man who dropped my stylus.
01:23:00 --> 01:23:01 [SPEAKER_04]: Wait, wait, wait, wait.
01:23:01 --> 01:23:08 [SPEAKER_03]: The other thing that suggests Zoe was a man hunter was the fact that she cut her hand off to get out of the handcuffs.
01:23:09 --> 01:23:17 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't think that's just something anyone could do, uh, and that's just a good or hammer.
01:23:17 --> 01:23:19 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, her, you know, her hand was hanging on the helicopter.
01:23:20 --> 01:23:31 [SPEAKER_05]: She held, and it just came up to the helicopter, and then, and then she shows up at the, uh, the hotel right before John Snipes are, you know, they'll fix it out.
01:23:31 --> 01:23:31 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, the motel.
01:23:31 --> 01:23:36 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't, I don't, I probably drew it back, but you've been doing that.
01:23:36 --> 01:23:40 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I don't I don't think I think it was wrapped up or something.
01:23:40 --> 01:23:44 [SPEAKER_05]: I could have sworn that they covered that Like they dressed it.
01:23:44 --> 01:23:53 [SPEAKER_03]: I should say well, no that the whole helicopter thing with the hand was after the Yeah, it was after Because it was the it was the battle.
01:23:54 --> 01:23:56 [SPEAKER_03]: It was the battle episode episode.
01:23:56 --> 01:24:00 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I mean like episode Right right so it was after
01:24:03 --> 01:24:06 [SPEAKER_04]: But we, we want to see handcuffs, but then, but no, it has to be the last thing.
01:24:06 --> 01:24:10 [SPEAKER_05]: Have she kills her, it has to be the last thing, because that's when John kills her.
01:24:11 --> 01:24:11 [SPEAKER_05]: Right.
01:24:11 --> 01:24:12 [SPEAKER_05]: So he never shows up.
01:24:13 --> 01:24:19 [SPEAKER_05]: She should be missing a arm when John kills her is what on my point at the motel.
01:24:19 --> 01:24:20 [SPEAKER_05]: She should be missing an arm.
01:24:21 --> 01:24:28 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that, oh, the motel, which he comes to when he shows her when he, yeah, the thing you're branching about for eight episodes.
01:24:28 --> 01:24:29 [SPEAKER_03]: She's going to run the hand back by then though.
01:24:31 --> 01:24:31 [SPEAKER_03]: Good.
01:24:31 --> 01:24:33 [SPEAKER_03]: I made it back in my sample.
01:24:33 --> 01:24:34 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I thought they addressed it.
01:24:34 --> 01:24:45 [SPEAKER_05]: I thought she had like a maybe shouldn't because I it seemed like it's something that would have jumped out, but I mean, we're right, maybe she had something on her remember her missing an arm or yeah, I don't really wrapped up.
01:24:46 --> 01:24:49 [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe she had that thing on that Luke Skywalker had with his hand.
01:24:49 --> 01:24:50 [SPEAKER_03]: It was a bit kind of the cuff.
01:24:51 --> 01:24:52 [SPEAKER_05]: Or she had a long coat on.
01:24:52 --> 01:24:54 [SPEAKER_05]: Maybe she had like a green.
01:24:54 --> 01:24:55 [SPEAKER_05]: Did you want to have a coat?
01:24:55 --> 01:24:55 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.
01:24:55 --> 01:24:56 [SPEAKER_05]: I have to go back and look.
01:24:58 --> 01:25:04 [SPEAKER_03]: The more of the story is, there's a lot of fucking mystery books that have yet to be answered.
01:25:04 --> 01:25:12 [SPEAKER_03]: So I'll ask the same question I asked, which one, which one do you want for sure to be answered next week?
01:25:13 --> 01:25:15 [SPEAKER_03]: Anybody to answer?
01:25:16 --> 01:25:18 [SPEAKER_03]: I think they need to show who Carol Ferris is.
01:25:19 --> 01:25:26 [SPEAKER_03]: I think they need to, if there is any more man to hunt for shit, it needs to be like, it needs to be next episode.
01:25:26 --> 01:25:29 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, I don't want to find out in season two that carries really a man on it.
01:25:30 --> 01:25:39 [SPEAKER_05]: Like, I think, I think the man on it, because that should wrap up the, the antagonist in this show for this season.
01:25:39 --> 01:25:41 [SPEAKER_05]: Because it sounds like it seems like they're setting up
01:25:47 --> 01:25:54 [SPEAKER_05]: it would be frustrating to keep adding all these heavies that never get resolved or... Yeah, that's beyond us.
01:25:54 --> 01:25:59 [SPEAKER_03]: This man hunter was not a heavy, like, no, it's not just a men's hike on that.
01:25:59 --> 01:26:15 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, it was just a mystery, which is disappointing because the managers are supposed to be such a, like all the images I see online when I Google Man Hunter is like these are badasses who are like the centenoles essentially from, they're supposed to be galactous.
01:26:17 --> 01:26:20 [SPEAKER_03]: and they're taking out just like, so look.
01:26:20 --> 01:26:20 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:26:21 --> 01:26:29 [SPEAKER_04]: And this may be part of the whole manhunter storyline, which honestly doesn't seem to be concluded.
01:26:31 --> 01:26:32 [SPEAKER_04]: Who is this Maggie bitch?
01:26:33 --> 01:26:33 [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
01:26:34 --> 01:26:35 [SPEAKER_04]: Why is she so important?
01:26:36 --> 01:26:37 [SPEAKER_03]: That has to be answered.
01:26:37 --> 01:26:46 [SPEAKER_04]: You have to answer that because you cannot string that along because if it's not like, as it is, it doesn't feel important.
01:26:46 --> 01:26:55 [SPEAKER_04]: It feels very like, almost soap operas, like, oh, she's shaking him down for $3, $1 and he's going along with it.
01:26:55 --> 01:26:59 [SPEAKER_05]: Like, because she has to think, it takes me out there, John killed.
01:27:00 --> 01:27:02 [SPEAKER_05]: What's that again, I'm sorry, I cut you off.
01:27:02 --> 01:27:03 [SPEAKER_04]: I was the same.
01:27:03 --> 01:27:04 [SPEAKER_04]: He has bigger problems.
01:27:05 --> 01:27:05 [SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
01:27:06 --> 01:27:21 [SPEAKER_05]: And the thing is, like, what I was gonna say is that, if it turned, if people knew, at least my film is, if people knew that John killed how, they'd be a bravo, bravo, you know, like, this is weird, it's like, in this town who we care.
01:27:22 --> 01:27:22 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
01:27:24 --> 01:27:28 [SPEAKER_04]: It's how you can sit in the feds after a year where there's going to be some deep air.
01:27:28 --> 01:27:29 [SPEAKER_04]: We feel like he didn't.
01:27:29 --> 01:27:30 [SPEAKER_04]: So it's almost like...
01:27:31 --> 01:27:34 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, like, why is he hiding the fact that he punched him?
01:27:34 --> 01:27:36 [SPEAKER_04]: Like, is it that serious?
01:27:36 --> 01:27:37 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and he didn't kill it.
01:27:37 --> 01:27:39 [SPEAKER_05]: Like, for what we know, he did not kill him.
01:27:39 --> 01:27:40 [SPEAKER_05]: So exactly.
01:27:40 --> 01:27:43 [SPEAKER_04]: Or is this a commentary on, they always blame the brother?
01:27:44 --> 01:27:47 [SPEAKER_04]: If it's that, we really pissed every week.
01:27:47 --> 01:27:47 [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
01:27:47 --> 01:27:49 [SPEAKER_04]: That's how we do that.
01:27:49 --> 01:27:55 [SPEAKER_03]: Just the whole, honestly, so show is on a very thin layer of stability.
01:27:56 --> 01:27:57 [SPEAKER_03]: The whole Maggie shake down.
01:27:57 --> 01:27:59 [SPEAKER_05]: Let me talk to you motherfuckers.
01:28:00 --> 01:28:03 [SPEAKER_03]: The whole magic shake down is the worst part of the show.
01:28:03 --> 01:28:04 [SPEAKER_03]: It makes no fucking sense.
01:28:04 --> 01:28:19 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and if it doesn't it if it turns out to just be a shake down I'm gonna be like it's like what what did this add to the show other than makes it worse It really makes it worse because it just makes it like
01:28:21 --> 01:28:24 [SPEAKER_04]: First of all, it's stupid.
01:28:24 --> 01:28:29 [SPEAKER_04]: It makes it like a some shit you'd see on CBS.
01:28:30 --> 01:28:33 [SPEAKER_04]: Like, oh, this kind of shit happens in RJ Decker, you know?
01:28:36 --> 01:28:39 [SPEAKER_05]: It's like this is like this is like this is like this ain't been a bee plot.
01:28:39 --> 01:28:40 [SPEAKER_04]: This is like a seared
01:28:56 --> 01:29:18 [SPEAKER_03]: Even, even, I mean, to your point and do even the first episode we see here, they make a point for the camera, the lingers on there when John walks in, it's like, I was supposed to know her, she's the, she's serving him, she gives him the side, gets in a whole conversation, and I think they're doing that because if she's a little girl who was blown up, it's like, oh, this is a little girl.
01:29:19 --> 01:29:35 [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, but I think it's supposed to be her it is supposed to be her, but it's like that's all it is It's weak because then, John you know what I'm supposed to pay everybody $315 a guy killed me.
01:29:35 --> 01:29:36 [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't do this.
01:29:36 --> 01:29:38 [SPEAKER_04]: I didn't you know, but then she holds it over him.
01:29:38 --> 01:29:46 [SPEAKER_04]: Like well, if you don't tell if you don't pay me right until the sheriff What's John or punt out all right?
01:29:46 --> 01:29:47 [SPEAKER_05]: Right?
01:29:48 --> 01:29:53 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not paying $5, I'm not paying $3 for no punch.
01:29:53 --> 01:30:05 [SPEAKER_05]: But the only thing, I wouldn't say this before, the only thing that I don't even want to say validated, but how did stress when John was walking out, hey, don't tell anybody you saw me here.
01:30:05 --> 01:30:07 [SPEAKER_05]: He did stress that.
01:30:07 --> 01:30:09 [SPEAKER_05]: And so maybe John is thinking,
01:30:10 --> 01:30:14 [SPEAKER_05]: for whatever reason I can't let you know that I was there.
01:30:14 --> 01:30:16 [SPEAKER_05]: That's the only thing.
01:30:16 --> 01:30:17 [SPEAKER_04]: You know what that is?
01:30:18 --> 01:30:21 [SPEAKER_04]: The eighth mystery about.
01:30:21 --> 01:30:23 [SPEAKER_04]: We're almost at even 10.
01:30:23 --> 01:30:26 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, that's your point to make it.
01:30:26 --> 01:30:28 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, the Baker's doesn't right now.
01:30:28 --> 01:30:31 [SPEAKER_05]: Mysteries going into that.
01:30:32 --> 01:30:36 [SPEAKER_03]: Only response to that would be, does it matter now that he's dead?
01:30:37 --> 01:30:49 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, yeah, because I think because I think he was trying to just like just like there's coated messages like he left the key ring for his storage unit with the burden on it.
01:30:49 --> 01:30:54 [SPEAKER_05]: He's like leaving all these coated messages and I think it feels like John is operating on that level.
01:30:54 --> 01:30:56 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, he told me this for, he wouldn't just say something.
01:30:56 --> 01:31:00 [SPEAKER_05]: How if how told me that he told me for a reason, he wouldn't just say it.
01:31:01 --> 01:31:05 [SPEAKER_05]: So I don't know what that reason is, but I need to play this out.
01:31:05 --> 01:31:10 [SPEAKER_05]: the way he told me to, to figure out what these lindle off mysteries lead to.
01:31:12 --> 01:31:14 [SPEAKER_05]: That's what I, that's again I'm stretching.
01:31:14 --> 01:31:16 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm trying to do many matters.
01:31:17 --> 01:31:23 [SPEAKER_02]: My biggest thing I'd love to see them solving, I know they won't solve is actually just who killed Hal.
01:31:23 --> 01:31:25 [SPEAKER_02]: And if he's even dead.
01:31:25 --> 01:31:26 [SPEAKER_02]: They have to solve that.
01:31:27 --> 01:31:28 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you would think they have.
01:31:28 --> 01:31:30 [SPEAKER_02]: Or he would not solve it.
01:31:30 --> 01:31:31 [SPEAKER_05]: Had another one.
01:31:31 --> 01:31:32 [SPEAKER_05]: Is Hal dead?
01:31:32 --> 01:31:34 [SPEAKER_05]: That's the whole number.
01:31:34 --> 01:31:35 [SPEAKER_03]: He's dead.
01:31:35 --> 01:31:36 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:31:36 --> 01:31:36 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
01:31:36 --> 01:31:37 [SPEAKER_03]: Is he even dead?
01:31:37 --> 01:31:38 [SPEAKER_03]: They buried him.
01:31:38 --> 01:31:39 [SPEAKER_03]: No, but John said he didn't.
01:31:39 --> 01:31:40 [SPEAKER_05]: They buried something.
01:31:40 --> 01:31:41 [SPEAKER_02]: They buried something.
01:31:44 --> 01:31:46 [SPEAKER_04]: How you know the man hunter didn't make that buck.
01:31:47 --> 01:31:50 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I'm just saying that exactly.
01:31:50 --> 01:31:52 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, there's all kinds of things.
01:31:52 --> 01:31:53 [SPEAKER_04]: You just feel behind me.
01:31:53 --> 01:31:55 [SPEAKER_05]: Where we ought to do we at 10 now?
01:31:55 --> 01:31:56 [SPEAKER_05]: We at 10, at least nine.
01:31:57 --> 01:31:59 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that could be Santa Claus.
01:31:59 --> 01:32:05 [SPEAKER_04]: The 10th mystery box is when is John's brother's album on drop?
01:32:08 --> 01:32:31 [SPEAKER_04]: as John is apparently financing it right and John needs $350 with a quickness so far to get this girl $350 when you try to finance a rap album right we're out of pay for studio sessions yeah also I mean also how liquid much John B if he's willing to give up
01:32:32 --> 01:32:37 [SPEAKER_03]: $315 just to hide the fact that he did all his money, right?
01:32:37 --> 01:32:40 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, that's the way that he's done.
01:32:40 --> 01:32:42 [SPEAKER_04]: He's built the company, right?
01:32:42 --> 01:32:42 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
01:32:42 --> 01:32:43 [SPEAKER_04]: But he hasn't sold the...
01:32:46 --> 01:32:53 [SPEAKER_03]: But he was, I mean, he was, I mean, they give the impression that, yeah, the impression that he was successful.
01:32:53 --> 01:32:55 [SPEAKER_03]: He built midway city.
01:32:55 --> 01:32:56 [SPEAKER_03]: Probably.
01:32:56 --> 01:32:57 [SPEAKER_03]: He built my chart.
01:32:57 --> 01:32:59 [SPEAKER_03]: He made me, he built, he built my chart.
01:32:59 --> 01:33:00 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
01:33:00 --> 01:33:03 [SPEAKER_05]: I need to go pick up my child from a band practice.
01:33:03 --> 01:33:04 [SPEAKER_05]: So, we're done.
01:33:04 --> 01:33:08 [SPEAKER_05]: All right, well, we'll see what happens next week.
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01:33:27 --> 01:33:29 [SPEAKER_03]: Three, four, where are we at right now?
01:33:29 --> 01:33:31 [SPEAKER_05]: Last week we were at 133, did we go up or down?
01:33:32 --> 01:33:33 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm sure we're at it.
01:33:33 --> 01:33:34 [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't think that.
01:33:34 --> 01:33:35 [SPEAKER_05]: We really hope it's not down.
01:33:36 --> 01:33:36 [SPEAKER_05]: I know.
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01:33:39 --> 01:33:40 [SPEAKER_05]: This is a non-seventy-two.
01:33:41 --> 01:33:41 [SPEAKER_05]: Right.
01:33:41 --> 01:33:43 [SPEAKER_05]: This is some, this is some damn nonsense.
01:33:44 --> 01:33:45 [SPEAKER_05]: Why have I listened to this shit?
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01:33:51 --> 01:33:51 [SPEAKER_03]: Peace.
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