It's a miracle! No technical difficulties this week. This episode is longer than usual because we have a drawn-out debate about whether Amazon's Spider Noir is a good show overall and a good superhero show in particular. But not before JD and Ron get into what seems like a personal topic: whether JD should have known certain details about a show Ron spoiled years ago. In the last segment, they get ready for their House of the Dragon coverage starting next week. We also talked a little bit about basketball, where Ron learns whether New York has two basketball teams.
00:00 - The long-standing debate about Ron spoiling The Office
09:07 - Spider Noir discussion
1:01:37 - The Bastard Velaryon Brothers
1:06:26 - The NBA finals
00:00 --> 00:05 [SPEAKER_03]: Can you confirm for me that crime in a barrel is a popular topic in black culture?
00:05 --> 00:06 [SPEAKER_03]: Can you confirm that for me?
00:07 --> 00:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Eat online.
00:08 --> 00:08 [SPEAKER_03]: There's everything.
00:09 --> 00:10 [SPEAKER_03]: Huh?
00:11 --> 00:13 [SPEAKER_00]: We get online, like computer online.
00:14 --> 00:16 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god.
00:16 --> 00:17 [SPEAKER_00]: This is Ron Dawson.
00:17 --> 00:18 [SPEAKER_00]: I got three niggas with me.
00:18 --> 00:19 [SPEAKER_00]: Alright, let's go.
00:25 --> 00:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Hey there, girls, boys and I'm buying areas.
00:27 --> 00:29 [SPEAKER_01]: This is your good boy, Ron.
00:29 --> 00:30 [SPEAKER_01]: You're good, boy.
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00:53 --> 00:59 [SPEAKER_01]: And Spidey Roy, and people who did not do the homework assignment, it was simple.
01:00 --> 01:04 [SPEAKER_00]: I just read the cliff notes.
01:04 --> 01:08 [SPEAKER_00]: This one only require reading the cliff notes.
01:09 --> 01:12 [SPEAKER_01]: So, we're talking about Spidey Roy, the Amazon show.
01:13 --> 01:18 [SPEAKER_01]: I think a few notes, I would just say this.
01:18 --> 01:19 [SPEAKER_01]: So if you're watching this,
01:20 --> 01:25 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, we won't be talking spoilers, so for two people on this on this.
01:26 --> 01:28 [SPEAKER_01]: So Rose will put this boiler thing right up across the screen.
01:29 --> 01:29 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to put anything.
01:29 --> 01:30 [SPEAKER_01]: This is the spoiler thing.
01:31 --> 01:32 [SPEAKER_00]: What is me?
01:32 --> 01:34 [SPEAKER_00]: What did be a spoiler for us?
01:34 --> 01:38 [SPEAKER_00]: Because honestly, I feel like I've watched the entire show even then.
01:38 --> 01:39 [SPEAKER_00]: We're so in the half.
01:39 --> 01:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:40 --> 01:42 [SPEAKER_03]: You're not a tumble.
01:43 --> 01:44 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what I'm going to do.
01:44 --> 01:46 [SPEAKER_03]: First of all, Ron is talking about, oh, it's too great.
01:47 --> 01:48 [SPEAKER_03]: We should have been in rating.
01:49 --> 01:50 [SPEAKER_03]: Clash the pearls.
01:50 --> 01:52 [SPEAKER_03]: I believe they wrote them down.
01:52 --> 01:53 [SPEAKER_03]: You're not going to do that.
01:53 --> 01:55 [SPEAKER_03]: You think this is too gory?
01:55 --> 01:55 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
01:56 --> 01:56 [SPEAKER_03]: Time out.
01:56 --> 01:56 [SPEAKER_01]: Time out.
01:57 --> 01:58 [SPEAKER_03]: I had to crush my pearls.
01:58 --> 01:59 [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't know what to do.
01:59 --> 02:02 [SPEAKER_01]: I had to leave the room on my gag reflex.
02:02 --> 02:03 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just kicked in.
02:03 --> 02:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Time out.
02:04 --> 02:07 [SPEAKER_01]: You're talking about my comment about one episode.
02:07 --> 02:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so I'm not talking about I didn't come in the ocean.
02:11 --> 02:12 [SPEAKER_01]: So what is it first of all?
02:12 --> 02:14 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm just saying that episode was nothing.
02:14 --> 02:14 [SPEAKER_03]: I was in.
02:14 --> 02:15 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, nothing burger.
02:16 --> 02:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Hold on.
02:16 --> 02:17 [SPEAKER_03]: That's what I'm saying.
02:17 --> 02:18 [SPEAKER_03]: That's what I'm saying brother.
02:18 --> 02:19 [SPEAKER_03]: This is not the burger.
02:20 --> 02:26 [SPEAKER_01]: If you're watching this, this now we're going to spoil the show, but the show is not that great anyway, so you're not really spoiled anything.
02:26 --> 02:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Confident.
02:27 --> 02:28 [SPEAKER_03]: Other people do like it though.
02:28 --> 02:29 [SPEAKER_03]: I've heard of the opposite.
02:30 --> 02:31 [SPEAKER_03]: I've heard of the people making the show.
02:31 --> 02:34 [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm just saying, just because you don't get it or don't like it.
02:34 --> 02:35 [SPEAKER_03]: Don't mean you want to come in.
02:35 --> 02:39 [SPEAKER_03]: It's just like I said, I'm going to review a Thai restaurant, but he hates Thai food.
02:39 --> 02:42 [SPEAKER_03]: So I just want to let you know, I'm coming here to eat some Thai food.
02:42 --> 02:44 [SPEAKER_03]: Now I hate Thai food and it sucks.
02:44 --> 02:45 [SPEAKER_03]: So let me rate this.
02:46 --> 02:49 [SPEAKER_01]: That's why you needed to turn down the volume on your microphone.
02:49 --> 02:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Secondly, I do say the show is terrible.
02:54 --> 02:55 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying it's horrible.
02:56 --> 03:20 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just saying it has, there's a lot of problems and if there's nothing really that big deal to be spoiled on like there's no big revelation that's made that makes you think oh my gosh that was spoiled like there's nothing like that in having a conversation about this show that's where I mean why I say that being spoiled on it is not that big a deal with regards to this particular show.
03:21 --> 03:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Is that a fair assessment, JD?
03:23 --> 03:33 [SPEAKER_03]: I would just say for people, I would just put this caveat for folks that are interested in watching this show and don't want anything spoiled to them because are a little twist in terms that I want to knock out.
03:33 --> 03:34 [SPEAKER_03]: That's all I would say.
03:34 --> 03:34 [SPEAKER_01]: That's fine.
03:34 --> 03:35 [SPEAKER_03]: That's fair.
03:35 --> 03:35 [SPEAKER_01]: That's fair.
03:35 --> 03:36 [SPEAKER_03]: That's fair.
03:36 --> 03:36 [SPEAKER_03]: That's fair.
03:36 --> 03:36 [SPEAKER_03]: That's fair.
03:37 --> 03:37 [SPEAKER_03]: That's fair.
03:37 --> 03:37 [SPEAKER_03]: That's fair.
03:37 --> 03:38 [SPEAKER_03]: That's fair.
03:38 --> 03:39 [SPEAKER_01]: That's fair.
03:39 --> 03:40 [SPEAKER_01]: That's fair.
03:42 --> 03:50 [SPEAKER_01]: We need to do a whole episode of the thing that you claim I spoiled you on that doesn't count as a spoiler Yeah, okay Because you spoiled y'all's form.
03:50 --> 04:09 [SPEAKER_01]: No, it was it was the office Okay, so Don't talk of spoiler for the office, okay, if you haven't watched the office, which everyone on the planet have seen spoiler for the office But at some point
04:10 --> 04:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Steve Correll leaves the show.
04:13 --> 04:20 [SPEAKER_01]: And apparently, 10 years after the fact, JD did not know that Steve Carell left the office.
04:20 --> 04:22 [SPEAKER_00]: All right, tell us your brother, I didn't even finish the wire yet.
04:22 --> 04:24 [SPEAKER_00]: That came out 40 years ago.
04:24 --> 04:31 [SPEAKER_01]: And that supposedly me spoiling it because I mentioned, JD just so you know, Darth Vader is so proud of it.
04:32 --> 04:36 [SPEAKER_00]: So now this is off, this is off plenty of truth, banner is the hope.
04:36 --> 04:39 [SPEAKER_00]: But Ron did not set that up properly.
04:39 --> 04:40 [SPEAKER_03]: What did I get on?
04:41 --> 04:42 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll tell you what you got around it.
04:42 --> 04:43 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, please.
04:43 --> 04:44 [SPEAKER_03]: Brian, don't talk over me.
04:44 --> 04:45 [SPEAKER_03]: Don't talk on talking.
04:46 --> 04:54 [SPEAKER_03]: So basically, Ron and I engaged in the conversation about the office, ongoing conversation, because the new I had not seen it.
04:54 --> 04:56 [SPEAKER_03]: It was my first time watching it.
04:56 --> 04:57 [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't know anything about it.
04:58 --> 04:59 [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm going through watching it.
04:59 --> 05:03 [SPEAKER_03]: And as we're discussing it, he throws out the spoiler that Steve Crowe was leaving.
05:03 --> 05:04 [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't know.
05:04 --> 05:05 [SPEAKER_03]: I wasn't watching
05:06 --> 05:08 [SPEAKER_03]: the office when it came out.
05:08 --> 05:11 [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't hear any of the plot points when it was in newswood.
05:11 --> 05:12 [SPEAKER_03]: I knew nothing about it.
05:12 --> 05:13 [SPEAKER_03]: And Ron knew that.
05:13 --> 05:21 [SPEAKER_03]: Ron knew that I had not seen it knew nothing about it, but then convinced to spoil it for me in our conversations about the show I had not seen.
05:21 --> 05:23 [SPEAKER_03]: That's, that's the point with my list.
05:23 --> 05:24 [SPEAKER_03]: And you were acting less.
05:25 --> 05:30 [SPEAKER_03]: All right, so I could be watching it and we're trying me on what a, thank you, everyone.
05:30 --> 05:30 [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.
05:31 --> 05:31 [SPEAKER_03]: All right.
05:31 --> 05:33 [SPEAKER_03]: He knew that I had not seen it.
05:33 --> 05:35 [SPEAKER_03]: He knew that anything he said would have been a spoiler.
05:35 --> 05:41 [SPEAKER_03]: Matter of fact, he, he, he kind of throttle back a little bit of certain things because you know, hadn't seen it.
05:41 --> 05:44 [SPEAKER_03]: So then when he drops Steve Corral, leaving a show on my wall.
05:44 --> 05:47 [SPEAKER_03]: That's what's now I have a pre-night theatre spoiler.
05:47 --> 05:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
05:47 --> 05:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
05:48 --> 05:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
05:48 --> 05:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, now let's add some more context to this.
05:53 --> 05:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Now I want to get a due in Divine's honest take, okay?
05:57 --> 05:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Giovanni, please roll.
05:58 --> 05:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Let me finish.
05:59 --> 06:00 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
06:01 --> 06:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Is it fair to assume that someone who routinely reads the trades, like JD and his wife do,
06:08 --> 06:11 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't I don't need to read it where you can't put some on me.
06:11 --> 06:12 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't do.
06:12 --> 06:13 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't routinely read the trades.
06:13 --> 06:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, and I'll listen to who trade podcasts
06:17 --> 06:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, is it fair to assume?
06:20 --> 06:21 [SPEAKER_01]: I think it was a go.
06:21 --> 06:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Hold on, let me fit.
06:22 --> 06:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Is it fair to assume that since J.D.
06:25 --> 06:43 [SPEAKER_01]: is in the industry and his wife, he is married to someone who is, like a major producer in the industry, that at some point he would have come across one of the number one headlines in the industry that the star of the biggest comedy on television was leaving.
06:43 --> 06:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Isn't possible to watch a show?
06:46 --> 06:53 [SPEAKER_01]: And still know something about that show that everyone in their mother knew, because it was on every headline that you would have seen.
06:53 --> 06:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Because you did get the trades.
06:54 --> 06:55 [SPEAKER_01]: I'd been your house.
06:55 --> 06:58 [SPEAKER_01]: You have, we don't already magazine everything all the time.
06:58 --> 07:00 [SPEAKER_03]: You're gonna get so much, we don't throw them away.
07:00 --> 07:02 [SPEAKER_03]: We don't want to have the same.
07:02 --> 07:03 [SPEAKER_03]: Basically, I want to throw them away.
07:03 --> 07:04 [SPEAKER_03]: The Ryan, you miss a whole point.
07:04 --> 07:07 [SPEAKER_03]: The whole point is that I told you beforehand.
07:07 --> 07:09 [SPEAKER_03]: And we had discussions, multiple discussions.
07:09 --> 07:13 [SPEAKER_03]: You knew damn well that I didn't know anything about the office is my first time viewing.
07:15 --> 07:17 [SPEAKER_03]: There's no, there's no way to talk you something out of it.
07:17 --> 07:19 [SPEAKER_03]: You can't, Michael Jackson.
07:19 --> 07:20 [SPEAKER_03]: I thought, put him on Michael Jackson right now.
07:21 --> 07:22 [SPEAKER_03]: Backslide across the states.
07:22 --> 07:24 [SPEAKER_03]: That's what you do to him.
07:26 --> 07:27 [SPEAKER_03]: You try to backslide.
07:28 --> 07:30 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you all do a spin on Michael Jackson's spin.
07:34 --> 07:56 [SPEAKER_01]: just do magic and make a whole story up here is this wall you told you about the mark the point I'm making though is I wasn't spoiling anything about the show that I would not reasonably assume you would already know because I told you I knew nothing of the show is not reasonable I didn't want it to we was it we had it was it
07:59 --> 07:59 [SPEAKER_03]: Hold the fuck up.
07:59 --> 08:01 [SPEAKER_03]: First of all, I can't understand.
08:01 --> 08:03 [SPEAKER_03]: If it was, no, we don't talk in multiple episodes.
08:03 --> 08:06 [SPEAKER_03]: It was like, it was like, oh, this is the, I can't understand.
08:06 --> 08:07 [SPEAKER_03]: It's like, oh, hey, I like the office.
08:07 --> 08:09 [SPEAKER_03]: We just rolled up one day.
08:09 --> 08:10 [SPEAKER_03]: We just started talking about the office.
08:10 --> 08:12 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, oh, yeah, by the way, when you said, it wasn't like that.
08:12 --> 08:16 [SPEAKER_03]: We have multiple conversations as I was going through watching the show.
08:16 --> 08:23 [SPEAKER_03]: And then you took it upon yourself on one of these subsequent discussions we had to drop the bomb that Michael leaves.
08:23 --> 08:24 [SPEAKER_03]: I had no clue about that.
08:24 --> 08:26 [SPEAKER_03]: That's why, and you knew, again,
08:27 --> 08:34 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I knew he was watching for the first time I was watching it.
08:34 --> 08:36 [SPEAKER_03]: You knew I knew nothing about it.
08:36 --> 08:41 [SPEAKER_03]: I explained that to you explicitly on several cases before you dropped the bomb that he left.
08:41 --> 08:45 [SPEAKER_03]: First of all, so how am I in the wrong?
08:46 --> 08:47 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying you're in the wrong.
08:47 --> 08:49 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm the thing.
08:49 --> 08:50 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a fine question.
08:51 --> 08:51 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
08:52 --> 08:53 [SPEAKER_00]: I thought we were going to talk about Spiderman.
08:54 --> 08:55 [SPEAKER_00]: That's a good point.
08:55 --> 08:56 [SPEAKER_03]: We'll see this right now.
08:56 --> 08:57 [SPEAKER_03]: Because it's boring.
08:57 --> 08:57 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
08:57 --> 08:58 [SPEAKER_03]: Bring it slowly.
08:58 --> 08:59 [SPEAKER_03]: Bring up this brochure.
08:59 --> 09:00 [SPEAKER_03]: There's losing argument.
09:00 --> 09:01 [SPEAKER_03]: You bring up every time.
09:01 --> 09:01 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
09:02 --> 09:02 [SPEAKER_00]: Do you remember his back?
09:02 --> 09:03 [SPEAKER_00]: Matters sounds personal.
09:04 --> 09:04 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
09:04 --> 09:05 [SPEAKER_00]: It is.
09:05 --> 09:07 [SPEAKER_00]: All right.
09:07 --> 09:08 [SPEAKER_00]: All right.
09:08 --> 09:09 [SPEAKER_00]: Here's something man.
09:10 --> 09:10 [SPEAKER_00]: One man leaves.
09:10 --> 09:11 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, wrong.
09:11 --> 09:12 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm thinking now.
09:12 --> 09:13 [SPEAKER_03]: We're still a really bad one.
09:13 --> 09:14 [SPEAKER_03]: Hear me out.
09:14 --> 09:15 [SPEAKER_03]: Hear me out.
09:15 --> 09:15 [SPEAKER_03]: No.
09:15 --> 09:16 [SPEAKER_03]: I got some points.
09:17 --> 09:19 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, here's the spider's law.
09:19 --> 09:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Here are my issues with spider and law, okay?
09:23 --> 09:25 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just gonna quickly list them throughout.
09:25 --> 09:26 [SPEAKER_01]: There was eight episodes.
09:30 --> 09:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, the biggest issue I have is that we barely fucking see him as Spider-Man.
09:36 --> 09:37 [SPEAKER_01]: It would be like watching.
09:37 --> 09:38 [SPEAKER_00]: That would be the spider.
09:39 --> 09:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the spider.
09:40 --> 09:41 [SPEAKER_01]: He's not called spider-man.
09:41 --> 09:41 [SPEAKER_01]: He's called the spider-man.
09:41 --> 09:44 [SPEAKER_03]: Don't see him as Spider-man ever won at all.
09:44 --> 09:45 [SPEAKER_01]: He's always just, I didn't say that.
09:45 --> 09:46 [SPEAKER_01]: I said, barely.
09:46 --> 09:49 [SPEAKER_03]: There's probably, we never see him as Spider-Man.
09:49 --> 09:50 [SPEAKER_03]: We see him as the spider.
09:50 --> 09:50 [SPEAKER_01]: He's the spider.
09:51 --> 09:59 [SPEAKER_01]: So it would be like watching a Batman show where Batman solves most of the cases as Bruce Wayne instead of pinning on the suit.
09:59 --> 10:02 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that is one of my big issues.
10:02 --> 10:05 [SPEAKER_01]: He rarely shows up as the spider.
10:05 --> 10:05 [SPEAKER_01]: That's one.
10:06 --> 10:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
10:06 --> 10:07 [SPEAKER_01]: That's probably the biggest one.
10:09 --> 10:15 [SPEAKER_03]: There's some light touches on race in the show that we go one by one, or are you just going to go all through all these in the show?
10:15 --> 10:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, we can go that one.
10:17 --> 10:18 [SPEAKER_01]: You have any thoughts on that, Jay?
10:20 --> 10:45 [SPEAKER_00]: uh... doom or hjvon yeah i can start off i mean being only two and a half episodes and that's me i've seen him as the spider and it's entirety because there was a one episode where he you know stops the guys before they get to the dock yeah and yeah i mean the only other time we see him that i can recall that we see him
10:46 --> 11:13 [SPEAKER_00]: use his abilities is when he first meets uh... fence are flent print to stand man stand uh... on the building on the on the sky scraper in construction right and he wasn't even in his suit then he wasn't a suit no he's just used the ability right so you're mad that you didn't see him in his cute suit otherwise it doesn't count if you don't see him he really even uses the ability to do that in that the episode he doesn't know
11:13 --> 11:14 [SPEAKER_01]: No, he's not.
11:14 --> 11:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Nah, there he is.
11:16 --> 11:20 [SPEAKER_03]: He always is doing a little web thing to snatch his hat when he comes back and watch it.
11:20 --> 11:20 [SPEAKER_03]: I know.
11:20 --> 11:21 [SPEAKER_03]: He does use his abilities without the suit.
11:28 --> 11:33 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, there are moments in every episode where he uses the buildies where he doesn't have me.
11:33 --> 11:39 [SPEAKER_01]: So then it's like watching Batman where every episode of Batman uses his big brain being never puts on the suit.
11:40 --> 11:41 [SPEAKER_03]: That might be kind of cool.
11:41 --> 11:42 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, yeah.
11:42 --> 11:43 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
11:43 --> 11:44 [SPEAKER_03]: Let's say one thing.
11:44 --> 11:45 [SPEAKER_00]: Let me say one thing.
11:45 --> 11:45 [SPEAKER_03]: No.
11:46 --> 11:47 [SPEAKER_03]: I want to talk about Batman.
11:47 --> 11:49 [SPEAKER_03]: We're talking about what's on my spot in the war.
11:49 --> 11:49 [SPEAKER_03]: All right.
11:49 --> 11:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's just let it do say one thing.
11:53 --> 11:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
11:58 --> 12:06 [SPEAKER_00]: They do establish very early why he's reluctant to assume these spider alias.
12:06 --> 12:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
12:07 --> 12:12 [SPEAKER_00]: So I can see how that isn't theme with the show.
12:13 --> 12:19 [SPEAKER_03]: him not, I mean, they don't just don't just let you know, they right off.
12:19 --> 12:20 [SPEAKER_03]: He came on every other thing.
12:21 --> 12:22 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
12:22 --> 12:25 [SPEAKER_00]: They remind you, this is why he's not.
12:25 --> 12:28 [SPEAKER_00]: This is why he's reluctant to be the spider.
12:29 --> 12:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
12:32 --> 12:37 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not criticizing the storytelling as to why he doesn't become the spider.
12:37 --> 12:40 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm criticizing the fact that they built that in the first place.
12:41 --> 12:49 [SPEAKER_01]: So I granted the reason he does not become the spider is a good reason from a storytelling perspective, but I'm not interested
12:50 --> 12:57 [SPEAKER_01]: necessarily in watching a detective show who sometimes uses his spider abilities and sometimes put on the cool suit.
12:57 --> 12:59 [SPEAKER_01]: We were into, I'll get you to minute, they do.
12:59 --> 13:13 [SPEAKER_01]: We were introduced to him in the spiderverse and then entire movie he's wearing the suit and a cool thing about him is he's this black and white spider man with a hat, a fedora and an overcoat and we never see that in the suit.
13:13 --> 13:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and we don't see that at all in this show.
13:17 --> 13:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Part of it probably was because trying to save on special effects.
13:19 --> 13:22 [SPEAKER_01]: So they don't have to show them swinging or whatever.
13:22 --> 13:23 [SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know.
13:23 --> 13:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Go ahead and do.
13:24 --> 13:26 [SPEAKER_00]: In defense of the show wants more.
13:26 --> 13:26 [SPEAKER_00]: No.
13:27 --> 13:29 [SPEAKER_00]: I like your point about budget.
13:29 --> 13:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
13:30 --> 13:32 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think is a factor.
13:32 --> 13:32 [SPEAKER_00]: But you know.
13:33 --> 13:34 [SPEAKER_00]: I think Amazon can afford.
13:34 --> 13:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Every time he's swinging, I'm sure that's a special fact.
13:37 --> 13:38 [SPEAKER_01]: You have to pay for it.
13:38 --> 13:38 [SPEAKER_00]: I get it.
13:39 --> 13:44 [SPEAKER_00]: I think what they're doing is there's something called seasons two and three that they want.
13:44 --> 13:45 [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
13:45 --> 13:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Sure to bring about.
13:47 --> 13:50 [SPEAKER_00]: So maybe let's milk this thing for all it's worth.
13:50 --> 13:52 [SPEAKER_00]: They're not going to show you everything.
13:52 --> 13:54 [SPEAKER_01]: You know you show me everything.
13:54 --> 14:02 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm showing the main one of the little kids that go to him because they're not a whole bunch of lasers and lights awards and everything Yeah, it's like just to hold on.
14:02 --> 14:09 [SPEAKER_03]: We're watching a series about a private detective that doesn't want these abilities He's doing like to a dues point.
14:09 --> 14:12 [SPEAKER_03]: He's he's hell bent on not being vespiter
14:13 --> 14:14 [SPEAKER_03]: He doesn't want to do this.
14:14 --> 14:20 [SPEAKER_03]: And when we opened up the show, he's actively not trying to do that, and keep it drugged into it.
14:20 --> 14:21 [SPEAKER_03]: So for me, it was like, perfect.
14:21 --> 14:24 [SPEAKER_03]: It was like, I didn't need to see him swing in one more time.
14:24 --> 14:25 [SPEAKER_03]: What did we see enough of it?
14:26 --> 14:29 [SPEAKER_03]: I thought I saw enough of a doctor shot.
14:29 --> 14:34 [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't, I didn't, I was like, oh, man, I was like, he's seeing swing through the streets one more time in his suit.
14:34 --> 14:36 [SPEAKER_03]: It's like, it's not enough.
14:37 --> 14:38 [SPEAKER_03]: I will pay this.
14:38 --> 14:39 [SPEAKER_00]: Uh-huh.
14:44 --> 14:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Not all of them, but I do feel like there's two and mind you.
14:51 --> 14:56 [SPEAKER_00]: I've watched two and a half episodes in the two and a half episodes I've watched.
14:57 --> 14:57 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
14:58 --> 15:02 [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like there's way too much time where he's not the spider.
15:02 --> 15:04 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, yeah, most of the show is like that.
15:04 --> 15:14 [SPEAKER_00]: Seriously, I'm like kind of tuning out when he's just walking around doing his machine thing and I'm just like, this isn't just in the cage.
15:15 --> 15:17 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, chewing on the scene like he normally does.
15:18 --> 15:19 [SPEAKER_03]: But do you know why he does that, though, right?
15:19 --> 15:20 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
15:20 --> 15:20 [SPEAKER_03]: Talks that way?
15:21 --> 15:23 [SPEAKER_03]: No, but I do mind not know, because he's only seen as he's a stop.
15:23 --> 15:25 [SPEAKER_01]: He's two and a half episodes, right?
15:25 --> 15:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
15:25 --> 15:31 [SPEAKER_03]: So I don't know the reason why it's like they go on to a whole thing where he was in World World One.
15:32 --> 15:36 [SPEAKER_03]: He goes in and rescue some people from a camp, a German camp.
15:37 --> 15:41 [SPEAKER_03]: And he gets this, I guess, this part legit is a spoiler.
15:42 --> 16:00 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
16:09 --> 16:10 [SPEAKER_01]: to not mention that.
16:10 --> 16:14 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, in a very serious case, you don't have any spoilers, right?
16:14 --> 16:16 [SPEAKER_03]: You just wrap a minute, everybody about spoilers.
16:16 --> 16:17 [SPEAKER_03]: It also happens spoilers.
16:17 --> 16:20 [SPEAKER_03]: Now, it's a messy, but Jay, he don't do dare say any spoilers.
16:21 --> 16:23 [SPEAKER_00]: Because if you say it's for a little like, I do, you can be a trouble.
16:24 --> 16:24 [SPEAKER_00]: Let me guess.
16:25 --> 16:25 [SPEAKER_00]: Let me guess.
16:25 --> 16:27 [SPEAKER_00]: It's an alternate ego.
16:28 --> 16:28 [SPEAKER_01]: No, no.
16:29 --> 16:29 [SPEAKER_00]: No, okay.
16:30 --> 16:31 [SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, don't tell me.
16:31 --> 16:35 [SPEAKER_00]: But I do, yeah, I just want to say,
16:39 --> 16:44 [SPEAKER_00]: isn't really drawn to the show until he's doing something with his abilities.
16:44 --> 16:49 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because that's, and I would say that picks up as it goes along.
16:49 --> 16:50 [SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't pick up.
16:50 --> 16:51 [SPEAKER_03]: No, it doesn't.
16:51 --> 16:52 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, it does.
16:52 --> 16:53 [SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't.
16:53 --> 16:53 [SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't.
16:53 --> 16:55 [SPEAKER_03]: Right, right, right, right, right.
16:55 --> 16:59 [SPEAKER_03]: In the first episode, they do a whole bunch, and then it just tapers off through the rest of the show.
16:59 --> 17:00 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, no, no, no, no.
17:01 --> 17:02 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just saying, no, I'm just saying,
17:02 --> 17:13 [SPEAKER_01]: out of eight episodes, there's probably three where he's wearing the suit a lot, maybe four tops, but again, eight episodes.
17:13 --> 17:22 [SPEAKER_03]: Again, I wasn't, well I go to this, I'm not looking for Batman, and I'm not looking for the cartoon animatic or whatever from this, despite a verse.
17:22 --> 17:27 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not looking, I understand, I understand there's a lot more action than that, so I'm just going to be watching it.
17:27 --> 17:41 [SPEAKER_03]: I think that this was taking a little bit more mature tone and vibe, and it's, and so again, I just don't, I'm not trying to argue that this is the greatest show ever, but at the same time, I'm not saying like, oh my God, it was so horrible.
17:41 --> 17:42 [SPEAKER_03]: Why is it he swinging?
17:42 --> 17:43 [SPEAKER_03]: Where's the fucking egg?
17:43 --> 17:44 [SPEAKER_03]: Where's the monkey?
17:44 --> 17:51 [SPEAKER_03]: Where's the like, well, he was king gong, he's like, moving and sucking gong, and we're in the theater, and this guy was drunk with his kid or Jackson.
17:52 --> 17:54 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the Peter Jackson joint, we went way back when it's
17:56 --> 18:03 [SPEAKER_03]: Right, but in the beginning, you know how it takes a long time and again, I'm not saying Spartan Wars like that, but you have a whole first act where they're not even, they're in New York.
18:03 --> 18:03 [SPEAKER_03]: There's nothing.
18:04 --> 18:05 [SPEAKER_03]: They got this in the back.
18:05 --> 18:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Where's the fuck, a monkey?
18:06 --> 18:07 [SPEAKER_03]: Where's the monkey?
18:07 --> 18:08 [SPEAKER_03]: Where's the monkey?
18:08 --> 18:09 [SPEAKER_03]: He was drawing into the kid.
18:09 --> 18:11 [SPEAKER_03]: He was like, steady, be quiet, be quiet, dad.
18:12 --> 18:12 [SPEAKER_03]: See, shut the fuck up.
18:13 --> 18:13 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
18:14 --> 18:20 [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, and that dad was JD cockling right with little McKinnon.
18:21 --> 18:22 [SPEAKER_00]: I will say this though.
18:22 --> 18:26 [SPEAKER_00]: I have a question to pose for JD and I believe I know what his answer is.
18:27 --> 18:30 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's really not too compare, but it is too compare.
18:31 --> 18:31 [SPEAKER_00]: JD.
18:32 --> 18:35 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, which would you since you've seen both in their entirety?
18:36 --> 18:37 [SPEAKER_00]: Which did you prefer?
18:37 --> 18:38 [SPEAKER_00]: Honestly.
18:39 --> 18:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Anguan or Spider-Noir?
18:40 --> 18:42 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Penguin, that's it.
18:42 --> 18:43 [SPEAKER_03]: It's way better.
18:44 --> 18:45 [SPEAKER_03]: But here's the thing.
18:46 --> 18:50 [SPEAKER_03]: Give him penguin, I didn't see him once when we didn't hang him at the door.
18:50 --> 18:52 [SPEAKER_03]: No, we didn't see the penguin shit.
18:52 --> 18:54 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, what the hell are we talking about?
18:54 --> 18:57 [SPEAKER_00]: But even though we classically know, there's not sure there's a villain.
18:57 --> 18:58 [SPEAKER_00]: But we saw him.
18:59 --> 19:02 [SPEAKER_00]: But we saw why he even became him.
19:02 --> 19:15 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I totally, I get it and there's more that and they're different and I also say you have to watch the show because a lot of the questions you have right now, what have been answered had you watch more than two and a half episodes?
19:15 --> 19:24 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm just saying that but I think it's unfair to even though they're they're from the comic book world.
19:25 --> 19:27 [SPEAKER_03]: It's like, but even that's also a great analogy.
19:27 --> 19:38 [SPEAKER_03]: It's like the ideas out of the common popular culture trope of the penguin is nothing like what shows up in the penguin on HBO.
19:38 --> 19:41 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, HBO, that's what was so revolutionary about it.
19:41 --> 19:46 [SPEAKER_03]: That's what left everybody inspired and really engaged in the show is that it took such a different,
19:47 --> 19:50 [SPEAKER_03]: Slant and Spider-Man or spider in the water doing that as well.
19:50 --> 19:54 [SPEAKER_03]: They're trying to show it in a different Slant and somebody says it's gonna be hit.
19:55 --> 19:56 [SPEAKER_03]: They're swinging for the fences.
19:56 --> 20:07 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, we're watching a spider Man character in the 1930s in black and white You know, and roaring 20s or whatever.
20:07 --> 20:08 [SPEAKER_03]: Look at it true color
20:09 --> 20:11 [SPEAKER_03]: Right, right.
20:11 --> 20:14 [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm just saying you have that's what you're up against.
20:14 --> 20:15 [SPEAKER_03]: And it's like they're swinging for the fences.
20:15 --> 20:17 [SPEAKER_03]: It's different than the cartoon.
20:17 --> 20:20 [SPEAKER_03]: If you went in, if you go in expecting, oh, I went into the Spiderverse.
20:20 --> 20:21 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to see that guy.
20:22 --> 20:23 [SPEAKER_03]: It's a different character.
20:23 --> 20:24 [SPEAKER_03]: And I appreciate it.
20:24 --> 20:26 [SPEAKER_03]: It wasn't, it wasn't kidding down.
20:26 --> 20:30 [SPEAKER_03]: It was like, I like the entry and first of all, I was like, what's my girl's name?
20:31 --> 20:32 [SPEAKER_03]: Lee, Lee, Julie.
20:32 --> 20:34 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, you come about, what's her name?
20:35 --> 20:35 [SPEAKER_03]: Jack.
20:35 --> 20:35 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
20:35 --> 20:36 [SPEAKER_00]: So when you place cat?
20:38 --> 20:39 [SPEAKER_03]: Lee Jun Lee.
20:39 --> 20:39 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
20:40 --> 20:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, sure.
20:41 --> 20:41 [SPEAKER_03]: Great.
20:41 --> 20:41 [SPEAKER_03]: Great.
20:42 --> 20:42 [SPEAKER_03]: Part in the show.
20:43 --> 20:43 [SPEAKER_00]: Let me say this.
20:43 --> 20:44 [SPEAKER_00]: Let me say this before.
20:44 --> 20:45 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
20:46 --> 20:49 [SPEAKER_00]: Once again, end the fence of the show and what JD is arguing.
20:49 --> 20:55 [SPEAKER_00]: How many times have we said to ourselves as movie and TV watchers?
20:56 --> 21:03 [SPEAKER_00]: particularly in regards to movies, we feel that they're rushed.
21:03 --> 21:06 [SPEAKER_00]: We feel like, oh, I wish they had developed a story more.
21:06 --> 21:09 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, this would play great as a mini-series.
21:10 --> 21:18 [SPEAKER_00]: And so in a sense, I mean, not in a sense, that's what they're doing with this show is, they're not trying to tell you a story in two hours.
21:18 --> 21:20 [SPEAKER_00]: They're trying to tell you a story in eight,
21:27 --> 21:29 [SPEAKER_03]: No, I might have been too rough for you.
21:29 --> 21:32 [SPEAKER_03]: That might have been because it's pretty good.
21:32 --> 21:35 [SPEAKER_01]: But so that's a good segue into the next thing.
21:35 --> 21:37 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because I mentioned ways, Jessica Jones rated.
21:38 --> 21:41 [SPEAKER_00]: Here's a.
21:41 --> 21:44 [SPEAKER_01]: So why don't we run before you get off it.
21:44 --> 21:44 [SPEAKER_01]: I just want to ask.
21:44 --> 21:45 [SPEAKER_01]: And they're porn.
21:45 --> 21:46 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and they didn't watch anything.
21:48 --> 21:51 [SPEAKER_02]: Do they do the other characters use their powers?
21:52 --> 22:01 [SPEAKER_01]: The villain, the bad guys do, yes, yes, in almost every episode the bad guys do, yes, and who's there to fight with them when they do?
22:02 --> 22:05 [SPEAKER_03]: in every episode when they put their stuff, the P.A.K.
22:05 --> 22:07 [SPEAKER_03]: shows up most of the time.
22:07 --> 22:13 [SPEAKER_03]: Spire the spider shows up on majority of the time when they use their when we first the electric cat.
22:14 --> 22:18 [SPEAKER_03]: He he shows up when the lit, you know, he he goes up head to head with the lizard dude.
22:18 --> 22:21 [SPEAKER_03]: He, you know, I mean, he, he show, he, I don't know what to say.
22:22 --> 22:24 [SPEAKER_03]: That's, that's Ron's perspective is fine.
22:24 --> 22:24 [SPEAKER_03]: He didn't like it.
22:24 --> 22:25 [SPEAKER_03]: He didn't like it.
22:25 --> 22:25 [SPEAKER_03]: It's cool.
22:25 --> 22:26 [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't say it like it.
22:28 --> 22:28 [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't like it.
22:29 --> 22:31 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm saying you just need to watch the video on the shorts.
22:32 --> 22:32 [SPEAKER_03]: I got you.
22:32 --> 22:32 [SPEAKER_03]: I got you.
22:33 --> 22:33 [SPEAKER_03]: No.
22:34 --> 22:45 [SPEAKER_01]: I think I think to the point I do was making with regards to the storytelling whatever, I think there was an expectation that this would be a real-life version of what we saw on Spiderman.
22:45 --> 22:52 [SPEAKER_01]: And since that's what I was expecting since I didn't see that character, that much, that was a disappointment.
22:53 --> 22:56 [SPEAKER_01]: If it was set up, like even though it was called the Penguin,
22:56 --> 23:16 [SPEAKER_01]: the trailers and everything set it up to be a story that was unlike the penguin you're normally seeing it that was going to be a traditional crime drama like all the reviews were like this was like a crime drama but those are similar reviews for despiteers by the war that wasn't you it was like this and oh we're gonna hit you action and in first of all you talk about a spider in a war
23:17 --> 23:20 [SPEAKER_03]: who in into the spiderverse, it's a two-hour movie.
23:21 --> 23:24 [SPEAKER_03]: So, of course, every time you see them, it's action action action action action.
23:24 --> 23:26 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, that's all he is doing in that show.
23:26 --> 23:27 [SPEAKER_03]: All right.
23:27 --> 23:28 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm just saying, but they're...
23:29 --> 23:43 [SPEAKER_03]: I would branch and say, I don't read any articles about it, but everything I heard about online or saw from entertainment people or whatever, this is going to be a cool detective show.
23:44 --> 23:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Let me just say this.
23:45 --> 23:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Let me just say this.
23:47 --> 23:51 [SPEAKER_01]: When the Greenland to show comes on, if they never use or hardly ever use the Greenland
23:55 --> 24:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe it's a betting cap show in space and every now and then they'll point their green thing So now you're saying that he never uses powers.
24:04 --> 24:09 [SPEAKER_03]: That's not that argument is not You say you would be disappointed the green lanterns.
24:09 --> 24:14 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm assuming you're comparing to two yes I'm being highly I've watched this show.
24:14 --> 24:16 [SPEAKER_03]: It's another show where the two we're all using powers.
24:17 --> 24:17 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm done.
24:17 --> 24:18 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm being hyperbolic
24:21 --> 24:23 [SPEAKER_01]: It's probably okay.
24:23 --> 24:24 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like you.
24:24 --> 24:25 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like the Bible.
24:25 --> 24:28 [SPEAKER_01]: You use metaphor and how you brought me to make a bigger point.
24:28 --> 24:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Gotcha.
24:29 --> 24:35 [SPEAKER_01]: By point being, when people typically watch a superhero show, they like to see the superhero in the costume.
24:36 --> 24:36 [SPEAKER_01]: That's all.
24:37 --> 24:41 [SPEAKER_01]: That being said, I think everything you said about it to do, and all the things that J.D.
24:41 --> 24:44 [SPEAKER_01]: liked about it, I think are valid reasons to like it.
24:44 --> 24:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Like I don't begrudge anyone for like me.
24:50 --> 25:14 [SPEAKER_00]: Finally think about what happened with the show and there were there are a lot of problems with the show heroes But think about We'll take no bad talk about hero if he's not Stop it, see the one and two Great But after that They just turned through they just burned up all their the great stuff that had in it
25:15 --> 25:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Season 1 was only good.
25:16 --> 25:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, what's your point?
25:17 --> 25:18 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's what point is.
25:19 --> 25:19 [SPEAKER_03]: Help me out.
25:19 --> 25:20 [SPEAKER_03]: Help me out.
25:20 --> 25:20 [SPEAKER_01]: I forgot.
25:21 --> 25:22 [SPEAKER_03]: All right.
25:23 --> 25:26 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's move on to the next point.
25:26 --> 25:26 [SPEAKER_01]: The next point.
25:26 --> 25:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Next topic.
25:28 --> 25:28 [SPEAKER_01]: The next.
25:28 --> 25:46 [SPEAKER_01]: No, the next point was the one scene that JD was giving me a hard time about there is there is one episode that has legit body horror in it and it was just surprising like I wasn't expecting to see some freaky ass body horror in this
25:47 --> 25:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Got in the show.
25:48 --> 25:51 [SPEAKER_01]: I like I wasn't expecting it caught you off guard.
25:51 --> 26:01 [SPEAKER_01]: They call me out for and not only that the episode in which he appears The episode was a mess to me that that episode was the worst episode of the series
26:03 --> 26:06 [SPEAKER_01]: episode six, which was called like nightmare on a gurney.
26:07 --> 26:18 [SPEAKER_01]: He is basically he's in this underground map and this matte scientist played by Amia Kino is trying to extract his oil at hunting.
26:21 --> 26:23 [SPEAKER_03]: She's a doctor that is trying to save her son.
26:23 --> 26:24 [SPEAKER_03]: She is mad.
26:24 --> 26:27 [SPEAKER_03]: She is also mad, so when you say mad Son, it just makes it out.
26:27 --> 26:32 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm just, you know, no, she there's a reason, but I mean, it's just You're listening to the reason.
26:33 --> 26:37 [SPEAKER_03]: I know I'm just saying you're demeaning when you when you just start describing people and then fucked up way
26:37 --> 26:39 [SPEAKER_03]: You're already off on the wrong foot.
26:39 --> 26:39 [SPEAKER_03]: It's okay.
26:39 --> 26:42 [SPEAKER_03]: She's okay.
26:42 --> 26:44 [SPEAKER_03]: In the context.
26:44 --> 26:46 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm a mass scientist.
26:47 --> 26:50 [SPEAKER_01]: In the text of the show, they call her mad.
26:52 --> 26:53 [SPEAKER_01]: She's a scientist.
26:53 --> 26:55 [SPEAKER_03]: She's a man scientist.
26:55 --> 26:57 [SPEAKER_03]: You know what to tell you.
26:57 --> 27:00 [SPEAKER_03]: You know that when people, but you're there for.
27:01 --> 27:06 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, she would not be that way, there's a very dollar reason why she's doing what she's doing.
27:06 --> 27:08 [SPEAKER_01]: I understand why she was that.
27:09 --> 27:11 [SPEAKER_03]: But there's a legitimate understanding behind what she's doing.
27:11 --> 27:15 [SPEAKER_03]: It's not like she's just the mad scientist and layer somewhere cooking up potions.
27:15 --> 27:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so she has a legitimate reason for being obsessively mad because she's trying to save her son.
27:23 --> 27:24 [SPEAKER_01]: I would say that much.
27:25 --> 27:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, in the course of doing that,
27:29 --> 27:35 [SPEAKER_01]: use one, you flash back to how he became the spider, and it's pretty freaking gross.
27:37 --> 27:40 [SPEAKER_01]: And the thing that turns him into a spider is fucking gross.
27:40 --> 27:41 [SPEAKER_01]: It just is.
27:41 --> 27:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's nightmarish.
27:43 --> 27:43 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
27:44 --> 27:46 [SPEAKER_01]: And it's not me clutching my pearls.
27:46 --> 27:48 [SPEAKER_00]: It was a nightmarish image, dude.
27:48 --> 27:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Did you feel like it didn't fit in the entire context of the show?
27:53 --> 27:54 [SPEAKER_00]: I totally liked it.
27:54 --> 27:54 [SPEAKER_00]: I dug it.
27:54 --> 27:56 [SPEAKER_03]: No, it didn't.
27:56 --> 27:58 [SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm not saying it didn't fit.
27:58 --> 28:00 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just saying it caught me off guard.
28:00 --> 28:01 [SPEAKER_01]: It's all like it was.
28:03 --> 28:10 [SPEAKER_01]: If that was in a traditional Peter Parker film, the parents would be suing Disney over traumatized me.
28:10 --> 28:11 [SPEAKER_03]: No, you put away.
28:11 --> 28:12 [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no.
28:13 --> 28:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Or Sony.
28:14 --> 28:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Or Sony.
28:18 --> 28:20 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, okay on that level.
28:20 --> 28:31 [SPEAKER_01]: It's yes, the 1980 for yeah, yes, what basically the person who turns him into a spider is half a spider and he literally, it's gross.
28:31 --> 28:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway,
28:33 --> 28:44 [SPEAKER_03]: And then they have all these other people that she experimented on who were like, the same, oh for the love game with thrones, when they could just cut people up, chop it off heads and throw it up.
28:44 --> 28:47 [SPEAKER_01]: First of all, that's different than body horde.
28:47 --> 28:47 [SPEAKER_01]: That's violence.
28:48 --> 28:49 [SPEAKER_01]: That's violence, that's not body horde.
28:49 --> 28:53 [SPEAKER_03]: There's still still some gorth, I know, but there's still an issue with gorth.
28:53 --> 28:55 [SPEAKER_01]: I have an issue with freaky ass body horde.
28:55 --> 28:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, okay, okay, come to level.
28:57 --> 28:59 [SPEAKER_03]: That's what you're pretty much in the Philippines.
28:59 --> 29:00 [SPEAKER_03]: Right, right.
29:00 --> 29:00 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
29:01 --> 29:07 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so one has this and again Doesn't give it to hippie jibis like the human centipede does.
29:07 --> 29:09 [SPEAKER_03]: I know Ron probably's never seen that.
29:09 --> 29:17 [SPEAKER_03]: So no Yeah, it was not even though so you got to understand me, Robin at one when I've seen Gory shit when do you hear you this guy?
29:17 --> 29:20 [SPEAKER_03]: I get it you have a different level of zone.
29:20 --> 29:22 [SPEAKER_03]: It's $20 on You have a different tolerance level.
29:22 --> 29:28 [SPEAKER_00]: I Okay, I would summarize the human centipede for you in three words Asked him out
29:31 --> 29:31 [SPEAKER_01]: That's correct.
29:32 --> 29:32 [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't even want that.
29:32 --> 29:33 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we're getting it.
29:33 --> 29:34 [SPEAKER_00]: We're getting it.
29:34 --> 29:35 [SPEAKER_00]: We're getting it.
29:35 --> 29:36 [SPEAKER_01]: And a bunch of stitches.
29:36 --> 29:37 [SPEAKER_01]: We're stitches.
29:37 --> 29:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
29:38 --> 29:39 [SPEAKER_00]: I was going to say.
29:39 --> 29:39 [SPEAKER_02]: There's stitches.
29:40 --> 29:41 [SPEAKER_00]: And now.
29:42 --> 29:46 [SPEAKER_02]: Wait, before you go on, Ron, what's your concept of the show itself?
29:46 --> 29:54 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, because you said, you know, yeah, if parents took the kids to a Spider-Man, is this a show you think kids are watching?
29:54 --> 29:55 [SPEAKER_02]: Is this a show you think?
29:55 --> 29:55 [SPEAKER_02]: I would think so.
29:55 --> 29:56 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
29:56 --> 29:57 [SPEAKER_02]: I would think so.
29:57 --> 29:57 [SPEAKER_00]: I think so.
30:01 --> 30:07 [SPEAKER_01]: So episode and to be clear, it's really only episode six that parents would need to be
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30:35 --> 31:05 [SPEAKER_03]: It's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like
31:06 --> 31:25 [SPEAKER_03]: But, but in the same way, it's like I think when you I think first of all, I think this little kid is coming to watch this to to Ron's point There's not a whole bunch of action inspired man zipping all around and doing so most kids are going to talk about it They're not going to watch out to episode one they're going to be out.
31:25 --> 31:26 [SPEAKER_03]: They're not going to watch it.
31:26 --> 31:29 [SPEAKER_03]: This is a really good story Adult show.
31:29 --> 31:34 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, and beyond that the dropping MFs are saying fucking damned and they're dropping
31:35 --> 31:37 [SPEAKER_00]: You don't think kids are attracted to me.
31:37 --> 31:44 [SPEAKER_03]: No, what I'm saying is that the programmers for this show are targeting children the way Ron is suggesting.
31:45 --> 31:46 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, if I can't watch this video, be good to this.
31:47 --> 31:48 [SPEAKER_03]: No, little kids are not watching this shit.
31:48 --> 31:49 [SPEAKER_03]: I'll be marketing this.
31:50 --> 31:52 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, it's like what am I to make it about?
31:52 --> 31:59 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm just going on about saying how Ron, I'm just countering your point where you want all about who little kids see this, they're going to be destroyed like really?
32:00 --> 32:02 [SPEAKER_03]: Because there's a whole bunch of motherfuckers in goddamn and didn't have a 40 year
32:04 --> 32:08 [SPEAKER_01]: No, my only point was, I'm not saying the show is marketed towards kids.
32:08 --> 32:14 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm saying it's not unreasonable to assume kids or watch it, let me finish.
32:15 --> 32:16 [SPEAKER_01]: No talking over.
32:16 --> 32:21 [SPEAKER_01]: That kids want to watch it, given it's a character from the Spiderverse.
32:21 --> 32:21 [SPEAKER_01]: That's all.
32:22 --> 32:28 [SPEAKER_01]: And that some parents might have their kids watch it, not knowing that one of the episodes
32:29 --> 32:31 [SPEAKER_01]: has gross body or anything.
32:31 --> 32:33 [SPEAKER_03]: But I would say that's episode six, right?
32:33 --> 32:34 [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
32:34 --> 32:35 [SPEAKER_03]: Most people probably don't like it.
32:35 --> 32:37 [SPEAKER_03]: So one, there's dams and shits and fucks.
32:37 --> 32:40 [SPEAKER_03]: And so I mean, they're going to pull it all back then.
32:40 --> 32:45 [SPEAKER_03]: They should be pulled with the little twilight zoning looking gory stuff.
32:45 --> 32:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, you mean, so let's talk, jump to it.
32:47 --> 32:48 [SPEAKER_01]: I know this question.
32:48 --> 32:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you, JD, did you feel like, there are times I felt like the language was an agronistic.
32:54 --> 32:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Like it didn't feel.
32:57 --> 32:58 [SPEAKER_01]: like it didn't fit.
32:58 --> 33:01 [SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was the two contemporary.
33:02 --> 33:04 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I still love it is like, I don't know people used to curse.
33:05 --> 33:08 [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't surprise me here at MS. Yeah.
33:08 --> 33:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
33:08 --> 33:09 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
33:09 --> 33:10 [SPEAKER_01]: It seems a little light.
33:10 --> 33:13 [SPEAKER_03]: But I don't know if they didn't, if that word was not around it.
33:13 --> 33:17 [SPEAKER_01]: And the, and the more, and is it, Lamont Morris?
33:17 --> 33:18 [SPEAKER_01]: I always forget how to dance.
33:19 --> 33:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't like the way he was talking to the other brother was like how we all talk today.
33:24 --> 33:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Like hey, you know what's up?
33:26 --> 33:32 [SPEAKER_01]: That's what it sounded like when he's talking to it and again, it doesn't it didn't feel like it was of the time.
33:32 --> 33:33 [SPEAKER_01]: I actually wish Catbelt legit
33:35 --> 33:38 [SPEAKER_00]: Cat was that kind of a day in the secretary field, Janet.
33:39 --> 33:39 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he was great.
33:40 --> 33:40 [SPEAKER_03]: Secretary was great.
33:41 --> 33:42 [SPEAKER_03]: And I also thought Silverman was great.
33:42 --> 33:45 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, that he was, he's just a great actor.
33:45 --> 33:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
33:46 --> 33:51 [SPEAKER_03]: But I wish that they liked your point with the dialogue that I will give you.
33:51 --> 33:59 [SPEAKER_03]: I'll kiss you on that that they could kind of flex that they could have been a little bit more, especially if Nicholas Cage is going way out with his accent.
33:59 --> 34:02 [SPEAKER_03]: Didn't I say, he's six out like a, he started.
34:04 --> 34:12 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he starts sticking out like a sore thumb, which there is a reason for it, but he starts out like a sore thumb, whatever he else is talking 1990s for a bitch.
34:12 --> 34:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you think they made it clear enough?
34:14 --> 34:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Why he, why, like, I caught on why he didn't, like, I got it.
34:19 --> 34:22 [SPEAKER_03]: But when I said it once, I mean, I mean, I mean, I don't know.
34:22 --> 34:23 [SPEAKER_03]: I just,
34:24 --> 34:49 [SPEAKER_03]: I kind of feel like he was doing it enough to make it clear that he was, I don't want to spoil for it too, but there, he has a habit, something that he does, a hobby, let's call it a hobby, and he goes to that, he does that a hobby several times throughout the show, and we actually, in the course of engaging in that hobby, we see how it impacts his
34:50 --> 34:51 [SPEAKER_03]: dialect.
34:51 --> 34:53 [SPEAKER_01]: So we learn about why he can't be lost.
34:53 --> 34:54 [SPEAKER_03]: So I did this enough.
34:54 --> 35:00 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't I hate when show the thing I really hate is when shows Beach overhead four or five times about something.
35:00 --> 35:01 [SPEAKER_03]: So I got it the first time.
35:02 --> 35:03 [SPEAKER_03]: It's like it to the do's point.
35:03 --> 35:06 [SPEAKER_03]: We always it people still have been fickle.
35:06 --> 35:08 [SPEAKER_03]: It's like we complain about all there's just too much action.
35:08 --> 35:11 [SPEAKER_03]: And then when they give you something that's trying to be a little bit more do it.
35:11 --> 35:12 [SPEAKER_03]: Where's this fireman?
35:12 --> 35:15 [SPEAKER_03]: I want to see you guys need to see him swing or anything like what do you
35:16 --> 35:20 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I don't know, I just feel like it's, and again, to me, I can appreciate a slow burn.
35:21 --> 35:21 [SPEAKER_03]: Sure.
35:21 --> 35:22 [SPEAKER_03]: It's okay.
35:22 --> 35:27 [SPEAKER_03]: If a movie brings a full circle or so pretty much comes full circle.
35:27 --> 35:27 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm cool.
35:27 --> 35:31 [SPEAKER_03]: And again, I'm not looking for the greatest entertainment thing that I've ever seen.
35:32 --> 35:36 [SPEAKER_03]: I just want something that he put in the effort, proficiently, I'm cool.
35:36 --> 35:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
35:36 --> 35:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Here's one other question.
35:38 --> 35:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you think sometimes
35:40 --> 35:47 [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like sometimes they're trying to lean too much into the black and white film noir cinematography.
35:48 --> 35:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Like they're legit.
35:50 --> 35:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes it felt like, as anyone watched it in color, I did.
35:54 --> 35:55 [SPEAKER_01]: I did it.
35:55 --> 36:01 [SPEAKER_01]: But I'm saying sometimes it felt like what a film school student would do.
36:02 --> 36:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Like it was like, what does that change in goals and all that?
36:06 --> 36:09 [SPEAKER_01]: The Dutch angles and the views of that embody me.
36:10 --> 36:26 [SPEAKER_01]: The Dutch angles weren't so bad, but they, especially in the last two episodes, they were going full blown 1940s film noir, Dutch angles, double reflection, close-ups of the women smoking, it just felt like... What was that?
36:26 --> 36:28 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I don't know.
36:28 --> 36:28 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
36:29 --> 36:29 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
36:29 --> 36:30 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
36:34 --> 36:37 [SPEAKER_03]: 40s, I know it takes place in the 30s, but that's it.
36:37 --> 36:37 [SPEAKER_03]: It's just off.
36:38 --> 36:39 [SPEAKER_03]: It's in the bit of 1930s, like I'm filming.
36:40 --> 36:45 [SPEAKER_03]: But like, it drawn to, it drew to the sense of my point.
36:45 --> 36:47 [SPEAKER_03]: I would say this in all fairness.
36:48 --> 37:03 [SPEAKER_03]: I think that there's a problem because I could tell, let me put my neck out of line here, it felt like, and I almost be willing to bet that they shot this digital chromatic with
37:04 --> 37:06 [SPEAKER_03]: And then they, in post, they made a black and white.
37:06 --> 37:15 [SPEAKER_03]: And when you do, because it tells, like when you look at the black and white, it's like, it doesn't, it's not like black and white film.
37:15 --> 37:27 [SPEAKER_03]: It derrs a lot of gradation, especially with A, C, D now and all the high resolution, color, it's like, you're, you're getting, it just has this almost like,
37:29 --> 37:30 [SPEAKER_03]: video-ish quality to it.
37:30 --> 37:31 [SPEAKER_03]: Like it's very sharp.
37:32 --> 37:38 [SPEAKER_03]: It's very crisp and it just has a different feel that I think we're not accustomed to when we look at black and white.
37:38 --> 37:42 [SPEAKER_03]: So when you look at black and white from older films, you know, you go watch Clause of Blanca.
37:42 --> 37:43 [SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't look like that in black and white.
37:44 --> 37:45 [SPEAKER_03]: First of all, it's not sharp.
37:45 --> 37:48 [SPEAKER_03]: It's not, you know, it's like you just don't have that grain.
37:48 --> 37:52 [SPEAKER_03]: You don't have the film grain and that and that aesthetic of it.
37:52 --> 37:55 [SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't assume at any point that they show us how to
37:59 --> 38:04 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm just saying, but I'm just saying they didn't, it's not like they shot it black and white.
38:04 --> 38:12 [SPEAKER_03]: So what you're saying makes perfect sense there without in color, and I did see two episodes I went back to watch that episode.
38:12 --> 38:16 [SPEAKER_03]: I watched episodes that Ron complained about to, to bolster to.
38:17 --> 38:17 [SPEAKER_01]: We're trying that episode.
38:18 --> 38:22 [SPEAKER_01]: So what about episode six and then also the one that went to watch that one color, it's too freaky.
38:25 --> 38:39 [SPEAKER_02]: So, you guys have filmmakers and I don't understand what this says, but it's saying that both versions were planned during filming and shot each black and white and color, and that the digital footage was split to create each format.
38:40 --> 38:42 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what that means, per se, but...
38:42 --> 38:44 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, could it mean they recorded?
38:45 --> 38:47 [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm a TV fan, bro.
38:47 --> 38:49 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah.
38:49 --> 38:49 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
38:49 --> 38:51 [SPEAKER_03]: And they probably had a eye for it.
38:52 --> 38:53 [SPEAKER_03]: I guess my point is this.
38:56 --> 39:00 [SPEAKER_03]: They're shooting on a digital camera, even if you're shooting for black and white.
39:03 --> 39:05 [SPEAKER_03]: It's also a TV show, so to move in quick.
39:05 --> 39:17 [SPEAKER_03]: I just think that when you have the same set up to the same clothing and the set and senior year, whatnot, even if you're Santa Cabo got our color camera, and we have our black and white camera, and I don't even know what they did that.
39:17 --> 39:20 [SPEAKER_03]: It sounds like you're on the moderate split and most unsure.
39:21 --> 39:32 [SPEAKER_03]: But it's like when you look at a digital, it just, it gets, it starts getting hard if you know, um, I think it can be a challenge to make.
39:33 --> 39:47 [SPEAKER_03]: black and white video footage, replicate black and white film footage of La Casa Blanca, or some of that we've seen in the past that Harold did, you know, citizen caner, saying, you know, it's like, it's gonna be hard to give that that look.
39:47 --> 39:58 [SPEAKER_03]: And particularly if you're looking at something that's supposed to be from the 30s or whatnot, an old, you know, an older story.
39:59 --> 40:01 [SPEAKER_03]: So, I don't know, I just think that that's,
40:02 --> 40:12 [SPEAKER_00]: I would say, if any of you have not seen the talented Mr. Ripley or just Ripley, mini series, watch it.
40:13 --> 40:14 [SPEAKER_01]: No, that's our Netflix, right?
40:14 --> 40:14 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
40:15 --> 40:15 [SPEAKER_00]: It's the best.
40:15 --> 40:17 [SPEAKER_00]: It's in black and white.
40:17 --> 40:17 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
40:18 --> 40:19 [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely stunning.
40:19 --> 40:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
40:20 --> 40:22 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, each shot looks like a postcard.
40:22 --> 40:23 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
40:23 --> 40:24 [SPEAKER_00]: It shot really well.
40:24 --> 40:25 [SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah.
40:25 --> 40:27 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe they did something different with that.
40:27 --> 40:28 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, were they?
40:28 --> 40:42 [SPEAKER_00]: Actually said, okay, we have to have we have to our costumes have to be in these shades are you know, sets have to be all that These shades because this is what looks good right and there's a compromise because they might have even shot on black and white film
40:43 --> 40:52 [SPEAKER_03]: That's actually a point because there's a compromise because you got to think, if they know, oh, the dress she's wearing is also going to be in color, they're not already f's up, how it's going to look versus black and white.
40:53 --> 40:58 [SPEAKER_03]: Because red on in color is going to look, and why not have the qualities or aesthetics you want in black and white.
40:58 --> 41:02 [SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, not getting the shade of gray that you would normally get.
41:02 --> 41:06 [SPEAKER_03]: If you had your choice, and we're just shooting for black and white, that's all that we'll set to do.
41:06 --> 41:07 [SPEAKER_03]: That's what I was getting at.
41:07 --> 41:10 [SPEAKER_01]: A couple of things about the villains.
41:14 --> 41:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Jiti your thoughts.
41:15 --> 41:15 [SPEAKER_01]: So the main villains.
41:16 --> 41:17 [SPEAKER_01]: You had to sandman.
41:17 --> 41:19 [SPEAKER_01]: You had megawatt electricity guy.
41:20 --> 41:21 [SPEAKER_01]: And then there's a electoral.
41:22 --> 41:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, in the show.
41:23 --> 41:24 [SPEAKER_01]: He's megawatt.
41:25 --> 41:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
41:25 --> 41:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Would you find a lizard?
41:27 --> 41:28 [SPEAKER_00]: Is it the show?
41:28 --> 41:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
41:28 --> 41:29 [SPEAKER_01]: So this is.
41:29 --> 41:29 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah.
41:30 --> 41:32 [SPEAKER_01]: So the back dude, I guess he's supposed to be the lizard.
41:33 --> 41:34 [SPEAKER_01]: I kind of issue.
41:34 --> 41:36 [SPEAKER_01]: I added issues to revise with him.
41:36 --> 41:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
41:37 --> 41:39 [SPEAKER_00]: How did felt like jumping past a lot of your thing?
41:39 --> 41:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Like you didn't touch on racing.
41:40 --> 41:42 [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't know he was a lizard for one.
41:42 --> 41:43 [SPEAKER_00]: I thought he was like an armadillo.
41:45 --> 41:58 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, he looked, you don't really know, you know, he really had a power makes him look like an armist because I saw the episode where he he changes and fights all the cops.
41:58 --> 42:03 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I'm like in periscanism, I'm like, yeah, is he Mr. Armadillo?
42:04 --> 42:10 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I mean, I mean, I guess he was the lizard like doc, they don't say when his name is, but I'm still
42:15 --> 42:21 [SPEAKER_03]: the modern day and then you have to look to drawing your point.
42:22 --> 42:27 [SPEAKER_03]: It's a different universe, and they're, they're universe, but they have a license.
42:27 --> 42:35 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm a layer of, I know, I know, and they will, I'm just saying that it's like, it could have been Armadillo, because I don't know what was lizard like about them.
42:35 --> 42:36 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, there's nothing.
42:36 --> 42:39 [SPEAKER_01]: You look back to wizard, like his or Armadillo.
42:39 --> 42:41 [SPEAKER_01]: He looked like a, it's true, too.
42:41 --> 42:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Like he kept me, yeah, you're like, I don't think I'm going to blow to me, or
42:52 --> 43:10 [SPEAKER_01]: one of the issues I had at the end was that by the end of his, he's almost permanently impervious and there's one plot point where they try to inject him with something, and the whole time I'm thinking, how are they going to inject, they know his kids that need all going to go?
43:10 --> 43:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
43:11 --> 43:12 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like trying to post Superman.
43:13 --> 43:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Right, right.
43:14 --> 43:15 [SPEAKER_03]: And at one point.
43:15 --> 43:16 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
43:16 --> 43:20 [SPEAKER_01]: When the spider tries to stab him and didn't work, he's shocked.
43:20 --> 43:21 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, how are you shocked?
43:22 --> 43:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Though the past two episodes, I was wondering how you planned to have this.
43:27 --> 43:32 [SPEAKER_00]: I kind of felt like he, with no, to JD's trying to inject Superman.
43:33 --> 43:35 [SPEAKER_00]: Supergirl does have pierced ears.
43:36 --> 43:37 [SPEAKER_00]: Just a little note.
43:38 --> 43:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
43:38 --> 43:40 [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to do this.
43:40 --> 43:41 [SPEAKER_01]: She pissed me off.
43:41 --> 43:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Cryptonean.
43:42 --> 43:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I guess.
43:43 --> 43:45 [SPEAKER_01]: And she kind of had them pierced before she got her.
43:45 --> 43:45 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
43:46 --> 43:49 [SPEAKER_03]: Because, you know, she's a girl that, you know, you know, we're.
43:49 --> 43:49 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
43:49 --> 43:50 [SPEAKER_03]: All the money.
43:50 --> 43:51 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, everything's on crypto.
43:52 --> 43:52 [SPEAKER_03]: Um.
43:53 --> 43:55 [SPEAKER_03]: So, is it one month old they ready to go?
43:56 --> 43:58 [SPEAKER_01]: I was going to say something else that would have been rude.
43:58 --> 43:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, it had been gross.
44:00 --> 44:01 [SPEAKER_03]: It had been gross.
44:01 --> 44:01 [SPEAKER_03]: It was just tasteful.
44:01 --> 44:01 [SPEAKER_03]: Body horror.
44:01 --> 44:02 [SPEAKER_03]: Body horror.
44:02 --> 44:02 [SPEAKER_03]: What?
44:02 --> 44:04 [SPEAKER_03]: I kind of felt like he, so the, so the, the, the, the, the lizard, Armored Delodude.
44:04 --> 44:15 [SPEAKER_01]: He kind of was a runny, was a runny, was a runny, was a runny, was a runny, was a runny, was a runny, was a runny, was a runny, was a runny, was a runny, was a runny, was a runny, was a runny, was a runny, was a runny, was a runny, was a runny, was a runny, was a runny, was a runny, was a runny, was a runny, was a runny, was a runny, was a runny, was a runny,
44:15 --> 44:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Lonnie, Lonnie, he kind of becomes like really committed to the bad guy you bit and I kind of felt like he was kind of like cool in the beginning Like he wasn't a villain.
44:26 --> 44:35 [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't understand entirely his heel turn where he became like like completely villainous But did you get it, Judy?
44:36 --> 44:41 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think it's, we'll be skipped over one of the notes you said about race.
44:41 --> 44:42 [SPEAKER_03]: We'll get to that.
44:42 --> 44:42 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll get to that.
44:43 --> 44:45 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, it ties in with him to get to it.
44:45 --> 44:56 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, because they do, they, I don't want to say to go to great lengths, but they put in more than just a quick lip service about how the black GI's were treated when they got back home from the war.
44:56 --> 45:01 [SPEAKER_03]: And so he's down and out on his luck, that, you know, he's living in a shanty town.
45:02 --> 45:02 [SPEAKER_03]: He can't get a job.
45:05 --> 45:22 [SPEAKER_03]: And so when Robby runs into him, when Ben talks to him, when they bring him into the Ben's office, you're getting his backstory about how he's been wrong through the government, but you can't get ahead.
45:22 --> 45:24 [SPEAKER_03]: So he's like, fuck, well, I got to lose.
45:24 --> 45:28 [SPEAKER_03]: And I got this, and by going to serve my country, that's treats me like shit.
45:28 --> 45:32 [SPEAKER_03]: I got this great disease now that I'm, you know, so I might as well use it to my ability.
45:32 --> 45:32 [SPEAKER_03]: They keep
45:33 --> 45:42 [SPEAKER_03]: I know about your scene, I'm at the end of the rope, you know, and then they have this opportunity where Silverman comes on says, hey, I see the value in you.
45:42 --> 45:43 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not going to let you down.
45:43 --> 45:44 [SPEAKER_03]: I got your back.
45:44 --> 45:45 [SPEAKER_03]: I hear, take some money.
45:46 --> 45:47 [SPEAKER_03]: He starts from the barrel all but yeah, this
45:48 --> 45:50 [SPEAKER_03]: If you're living in, you know, eaten leather.
45:50 --> 46:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, leather, I know, but at the end, he's like legit trying to kill Spider-Man when a few episodes earlier, he's playing card to them and they are friendly and well, he wasn't playing with Spider-Man.
46:03 --> 46:08 [SPEAKER_03]: He was playing using off the Spider-Man was not there, but he was with Spider-Man's friends.
46:08 --> 46:13 [SPEAKER_03]: He was with, but he did he know that that was Spider-Man, did he know that Ben and Riley is Spider-Man?
46:14 --> 46:20 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm just saying, okay, let me have three bucks to put.
46:20 --> 46:20 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I don't know.
46:20 --> 46:22 [SPEAKER_03]: I just think, again, that's like,
46:24 --> 46:25 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
46:25 --> 46:37 [SPEAKER_03]: I just didn't have as many problems and I understood like even when he turned back when he went and I was like I didn't think the thing about Lonnie was that he was never trying to be a kingpin or I'd live that thug life.
46:37 --> 46:38 [SPEAKER_03]: He was like, well shit.
46:38 --> 46:42 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm getting kicked Every which way I turn, but this guy's giving me opportunity.
46:42 --> 46:47 [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm just gonna take it and use my abilities to help him out He's only want to show me any well to your love or respect.
46:48 --> 46:49 [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm gonna roll with him.
46:49 --> 46:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, just see me
46:50 --> 46:51 [SPEAKER_01]: It kind of seems against character day.
46:52 --> 47:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Then he would be down with hurting other people, the way that they were hurting other people, and like really willing to kill other people for a student.
47:02 --> 47:04 [SPEAKER_01]: I can't understand why he would fall the dude.
47:04 --> 47:08 [SPEAKER_01]: It just seemed like, from the beginning, electro-dude, mag,
47:09 --> 47:13 [SPEAKER_01]: megawatt or whatever, he was kind of insidious for the life-waring.
47:14 --> 47:28 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it was like that, Flint was always kind of a plant where boys, they were in some first-sized town, Flint was living with them, he's like, hey, you need to come back and come, disguise them and help us out, you know, the same argument I just gave, that's a Flint told him.
47:29 --> 47:29 [SPEAKER_03]: So I get that.
47:29 --> 47:30 [SPEAKER_03]: I get that.
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47:48 --> 47:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Like I understand why he was following Silverman, he just seemed he was really, he was ready to go full-blown murder side load.
47:58 --> 47:59 [SPEAKER_03]: But here's the difference.
47:59 --> 48:03 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think he had the same attitude like losing live wire.
48:04 --> 48:04 [SPEAKER_03]: Megawatt.
48:05 --> 48:05 [SPEAKER_03]: Megawatt.
48:05 --> 48:06 [SPEAKER_03]: Megawatt.
48:06 --> 48:10 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think he had the same attitude when he was like he was totally different.
48:10 --> 48:18 [SPEAKER_03]: He was there he was an enforcer And he would if you got in his way he thought you up, but he wasn't like man He wasn't as full on as the other day.
48:18 --> 48:20 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I was saying he was on out of it.
48:20 --> 48:31 [SPEAKER_03]: There's a spectrum You had Megwatt will be here and then you had a salmon salmon was like in the middle and then Lonnie was over here He was just a muscle that when they need to rip it to off the hinges.
48:31 --> 48:31 [SPEAKER_03]: He'll do it.
48:31 --> 48:33 [SPEAKER_03]: I got to tell you what you'll do it
48:37 --> 48:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, uh, Spider-Man strength, Spider-Man strength throughout the whole show.
48:45 --> 48:49 [SPEAKER_01]: They essentially make it clear, he doesn't have the same type of strength that Peter Parker does.
48:50 --> 48:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Like Peter, and to be frank, even Peter Parker in the movies, it seems kind of up and down.
48:56 --> 49:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, and the current train that he's being hit by an armored truck, and he's acting like it's nothing.
49:02 --> 49:03 [SPEAKER_01]: So, I'm going to go point.
49:03 --> 49:05 [SPEAKER_03]: I need to beat up the gray Hulk or red Hulk.
49:05 --> 49:07 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to go point point point.
49:07 --> 49:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
49:09 --> 49:13 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think this is unknown, unbeknownst to many,
49:14 --> 49:26 [SPEAKER_00]: Spider-Man, if you read about him or if you read up on him, Spider-Man is easily one of the top 10 most strongest characters in the Marvel Universe.
49:26 --> 49:28 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not top 5.
49:28 --> 49:31 [SPEAKER_00]: He's almost as strong as the Hulk.
49:32 --> 49:43 [SPEAKER_00]: Honestly, he just hasn't discovered it yet, but if you look at, if you read his book, all right, I believe you, this is not the subway with some webs, that one won't be strong on the whole.
49:43 --> 49:52 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, this is based on the base as a baseline hook, not a raging hook, but he's strong.
49:52 --> 49:58 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's still the top of Peter's thing would be the base line of a hook, but okay, that's for you to have to tap and I didn't, yeah.
49:59 --> 50:01 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's not he's not Thor level.
50:01 --> 50:12 [SPEAKER_01]: He's not an aging Hulk level, but he can hold his own Yeah, okay, so in this in this show and Because he doesn't let himself go that far.
50:13 --> 50:14 [SPEAKER_00]: He keeps himself in shit.
50:15 --> 50:18 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so in this show They establish that has not been right.
50:18 --> 50:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he is pretty much just a dude who can shoot webs No, no, any henspider sense.
50:24 --> 50:26 [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, Ron, be like
50:28 --> 50:31 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's about what they're up in the door.
50:31 --> 50:32 [SPEAKER_03]: He gets it that car went.
50:32 --> 50:32 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, guys.
50:32 --> 50:36 [SPEAKER_03]: There's the detective and other guy competing for a job and he gets him.
50:36 --> 50:41 [SPEAKER_03]: He still gets hit and gets up, but also point out when he fights megawatt.
50:42 --> 50:46 [SPEAKER_03]: Make what kills people like this is electricity and Peter was taking it.
50:46 --> 50:49 [SPEAKER_03]: He, uh, I mean, a bin was taking it.
50:49 --> 50:52 [SPEAKER_03]: He got shocked several times and then he killed and then was fair.
50:52 --> 50:53 [SPEAKER_03]: That's fair.
50:53 --> 50:53 [SPEAKER_03]: I ran around and jumped.
50:54 --> 50:57 [SPEAKER_03]: He threw a, uh, megawatt through a, uh, what you call it?
50:57 --> 51:05 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm a, uh, uh, a man, manhole cover and, you know, he, you know, he deflected, I mean, he's got strength, but he also, they also played up on, uh,
51:05 --> 51:10 [SPEAKER_03]: He's 40 or whatever 45 on set arthritis.
51:12 --> 51:33 [SPEAKER_03]: He drinks like a sailor, you know, he's just he's not in gray shape So it's like and he doesn't want any and he does he it to a doose point from the beginning of the show The one thing that they keep harping on is that he does not want to be doing any of this It's like dragging him out of bed just to get him to go to find some people or do x y is he true But when seen he essentially
51:35 --> 51:45 [SPEAKER_01]: He shoots webs and two cars and he throws two cars to hit one of the bad guys and I'm like I know point to they establish he's that strong.
51:46 --> 51:51 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it can't seem I don't know where that he's freaking lifting cars.
51:52 --> 51:57 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I would just say like I just know from the comics how strong he is So I didn't bother me with the comics
51:57 --> 51:59 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just saying like, what a vlogger comic.
51:59 --> 52:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but that's Peter Parker, that's different.
52:02 --> 52:06 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, but I don't know, this is my camera close to Peter Parker.
52:06 --> 52:07 [SPEAKER_03]: Look, Skywalker right now.
52:08 --> 52:35 [SPEAKER_03]: We're talking about a spider from the just spider version and they established that this spider is not the same kind of strength levels Peter Parker I understand but I But I would argue or submit that even though that's impressive that I saw a Peter Parker in a spider-man movie She webs and stop a f-in subway train right they stables that right so that's way way way way way way way way way more stronger than anything we saw in this series that's the point
52:35 --> 52:48 [SPEAKER_03]: I know, so all I'm just saying is that I didn't take Ben as being, it makes us sound like he, you're arguing, he shouldn't have been able to do anything to an average Joe should be able to do it other than shoe webs.
52:48 --> 52:50 [SPEAKER_03]: And I didn't, I didn't get that at all.
52:50 --> 52:51 [SPEAKER_03]: I got that on the shoulder.
52:51 --> 52:53 [SPEAKER_03]: No, I guess I'm, I'm just, I'm arguing that,
52:57 --> 53:09 [SPEAKER_01]: because of how he responds to being beat up and what levels of strength they do show they give them pressure that he's really no more stronger than any other person.
53:09 --> 53:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Like they don't do anything established that he can, they don't do anything to establish that he can like, juggle cars.
53:15 --> 53:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Right, or lift, like they, once seeing with him lifting your car with my hand or something to suggest, he's struggling in the average Joe.
53:23 --> 53:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Because every time he gets beat up, he looks like anyone else who gets beat up in a movie.
53:28 --> 53:32 [SPEAKER_03]: But he beat, I mean, beat, I mean, he's getting beat up in a movie.
53:32 --> 53:35 [SPEAKER_03]: He is getting beat by them, or he's like, he's, he likes to tussle.
53:36 --> 53:37 [SPEAKER_03]: But he's beat up too.
53:38 --> 53:43 [SPEAKER_03]: But let us say he gets the better hand at every person he fights in this show.
53:44 --> 53:45 [SPEAKER_03]: He gets to the other hand of that.
53:45 --> 53:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Because he smart and he has wet.
53:47 --> 53:48 [SPEAKER_03]: But I'm not, but what?
53:49 --> 53:49 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
53:50 --> 53:54 [SPEAKER_00]: But, uh, he outlasts me, why?
53:54 --> 53:57 [SPEAKER_00]: He didn't use his web in his first encounter with, blend.
53:57 --> 53:57 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
53:58 --> 53:59 [SPEAKER_00]: With with Sam, eh?
53:59 --> 54:00 [SPEAKER_00]: What did he use?
54:00 --> 54:01 [SPEAKER_00]: They were fighting.
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54:19 --> 54:45 [SPEAKER_03]: First I couldn't take the punishment that sand man 10 and out and on top of that I'm gonna have the strength to not come cold out with a two-by-fair I'm just I'm just I get your point if you look at that one scene where he uses They I wouldn't argue that they could have done a better job of just explaining or setting up a Sometimes when I get in rage that this strength comes over me sure I kind of just took that through Osmosis through the story telling because
54:46 --> 54:49 [SPEAKER_03]: They alluded to how the spider was such an amazing hero.
54:49 --> 54:51 [SPEAKER_03]: It's stopping things in X, Y, and Z. I mean,
54:54 --> 55:02 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to have, there's a spoiler, but when he saves some, when somebody is, you know, yes, he is, is where to save some of it.
55:02 --> 55:09 [SPEAKER_03]: He uses web to save somebody and is able to pull them, and I know that person would have been dead if it was like, if it was me, oh, yeah, that's his gone.
55:10 --> 55:12 [SPEAKER_03]: So right now, well, it's like, that's fair.
55:12 --> 55:12 [SPEAKER_03]: That's how it's fair.
55:12 --> 55:13 [SPEAKER_03]: That's how it's fair.
55:13 --> 55:14 [SPEAKER_03]: That's how it's fair.
55:15 --> 55:15 [SPEAKER_01]: That's fair.
55:15 --> 55:16 [SPEAKER_01]: That's fair.
55:16 --> 55:16 [SPEAKER_01]: That's fair.
55:16 --> 55:17 [SPEAKER_01]: That's fair.
55:17 --> 55:17 [SPEAKER_01]: That's fair.
55:17 --> 55:18 [SPEAKER_01]: That's fair.
55:18 --> 55:18 [SPEAKER_01]: That's fair.
55:23 --> 55:31 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to point, I'm just going to say, and you have a dollar point, because if you're someone who doesn't know the Laura Spider-Man, how strong you really is, I do know Laura Spider-Man.
55:31 --> 55:35 [SPEAKER_03]: You just sound a surprise when you're doing Juana's playing this to you.
55:35 --> 55:37 [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't know, I didn't know he was hooked strong.
55:37 --> 55:39 [SPEAKER_01]: I knew he was super strong.
55:39 --> 55:41 [SPEAKER_01]: I knew you were surprised.
55:41 --> 55:44 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just saying, I knew that Spider-Man was strong.
55:44 --> 55:46 [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't know he was basically hooked.
55:47 --> 55:48 [SPEAKER_01]: So that was saying based on the hook, right?
55:48 --> 55:50 [SPEAKER_03]: And that's pretty high.
55:51 --> 56:18 [SPEAKER_03]: with it javada dude cragmy didn't he not one of the one of the hoax out like a great Hulk out or something at one point blue marvel did that oh i thought spider-man beat up Hulk or one of the hoax not the green Hulk but uh it would have to be the grave because the grave was the only one that didn't really get stronger within that yeah also so it's the best of it's the fix it yeah yeah so i only said i would agree that probably could assess something up to just
56:22 --> 56:46 [SPEAKER_03]: two highlight superhuman strength a little bit more because then then it sounds like you know you agree that he had a good amount of strength for a person or above average for a person yeah but that's super godlike strength right that has something in between so when he did the thing with the cars yeah yeah that's how he's this fighter North supposed to be in the show and has he been like a
56:52 --> 57:02 [SPEAKER_01]: 15, he's been missing for a number of years, because it's only been like, it's only been like 18, like two years.
57:02 --> 57:03 [SPEAKER_01]: That was like five.
57:03 --> 57:05 [SPEAKER_01]: I think he said, no, the.
57:06 --> 57:07 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, wait, you're right.
57:07 --> 57:07 [SPEAKER_03]: You're okay.
57:07 --> 57:11 [SPEAKER_03]: His home home has developed his life died five years prior.
57:11 --> 57:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
57:11 --> 57:13 [SPEAKER_01]: And ever since then, he kind of disappeared.
57:13 --> 57:14 [SPEAKER_03]: That's in the first episode.
57:14 --> 57:15 [SPEAKER_03]: So, yes.
57:15 --> 57:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
57:16 --> 57:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Can I read?
57:17 --> 57:20 [SPEAKER_00]: Can I read a little passage regarding Spider-Man?
57:20 --> 57:20 [SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
57:20 --> 57:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, please.
57:21 --> 57:26 [SPEAKER_00]: He's in Peter Parker's Spider-Man, but just give an idea.
57:26 --> 57:28 [SPEAKER_01]: What's the source you're reading?
57:28 --> 57:29 [SPEAKER_01]: So we can judge it.
57:29 --> 57:31 [SPEAKER_00]: This is a Marvel Comics source.
57:32 --> 57:32 [SPEAKER_01]: OK, go.
57:33 --> 57:34 [SPEAKER_00]: In Marvel Comics Spider-Man's,
57:35 --> 57:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Canon, Canon, Canon, Canonical, Canonical baseline strategy allows him to comfortably lift and press 10 to 25 tons overhead.
57:46 --> 57:49 [SPEAKER_00]: However, his strength scales drastically with adrenaline.
57:50 --> 57:55 [SPEAKER_00]: Under extreme stress or when lives on the line he has been shown to support hundreds of tons.
57:57 --> 57:57 [SPEAKER_01]: That's impressive.
57:58 --> 57:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Hundreds.
57:59 --> 58:00 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's the shot.
58:00 --> 58:00 [SPEAKER_00]: That's the subway.
58:00 --> 58:02 [SPEAKER_00]: That's the subway holding a building.
58:02 --> 58:03 [SPEAKER_00]: You can hold up a building.
58:03 --> 58:03 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
58:04 --> 58:05 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you're talking about the subway.
58:05 --> 58:05 [SPEAKER_00]: He can break it.
58:05 --> 58:05 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
58:06 --> 58:07 [SPEAKER_00]: He can break it.
58:07 --> 58:07 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
58:07 --> 58:09 [SPEAKER_00]: Or at least a little more.
58:09 --> 58:09 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
58:09 --> 58:11 [SPEAKER_00]: That's when his adrenaline is pumping.
58:11 --> 58:12 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
58:12 --> 58:12 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
58:12 --> 58:13 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
58:14 --> 58:16 [SPEAKER_03]: But again, but for Rod to Ron's point, a lot of people aren't going to know that.
58:16 --> 58:19 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, you're not, if you're not at a comic book, you're not going to know that.
58:19 --> 58:20 [SPEAKER_03]: Because I didn't know until recently how strong Spider-Man I did.
58:20 --> 58:22 [SPEAKER_03]: I knew he was stronger, but I didn't know he was that.
58:22 --> 58:39 [SPEAKER_03]: But I just kind of picked it up when I saw the other, the movies when he's, you know, again, I don't know if you guys understand a moving subway train is turns and turns and turns and turns and turns and turns and turns and turns and turns and turns and turns and turns and turns and turns and turns and turns and turns and turns and turns and turns and turns and turns and turns and turns and turns and turns and turns and turns and turns and turns and turns and turns and turns and turns and turns and turns and turns and turns and turns and turns and turns and turns and turns and turns and turns and turns and turns and turns and turns and turns and
58:39 --> 58:44 [SPEAKER_01]: I think because of the movies though, anyone coming to this might expect him to be a strongest Peter Parker.
58:45 --> 58:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
58:45 --> 58:50 [SPEAKER_01]: I think even the average Jane or Joe knows that Spider-Man is super strong.
58:50 --> 58:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Like you don't have to be a comic kid to know that Spider-Man is really strong.
58:54 --> 58:57 [SPEAKER_03]: So then it rubbed you the wrong way that he did that with the course?
58:58 --> 59:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Or no, only because they established in this show that this particular Spider-Man wasn't that strong.
59:04 --> 59:05 [SPEAKER_01]: That's why.
59:05 --> 59:08 [SPEAKER_01]: If he ain't done that in the first episode, I wouldn't have thought anything about it.
59:09 --> 59:17 [SPEAKER_01]: They did it in the last episode when they kind of, I felt painted picture that he was nominally strong, not super strong.
59:17 --> 59:19 [SPEAKER_02]: But you get into one, what were you saying?
59:19 --> 59:23 [SPEAKER_02]: I said it sounded like he felt like he's, they established that he didn't want to use his powers.
59:24 --> 59:27 [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't know if all of these villains are supposed to be first encounters.
59:28 --> 59:38 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, okay, okay, because I was gonna say like if it's not a first encounter He would know not to use his webs on Flint, Markle because that never works.
59:38 --> 59:40 [SPEAKER_02]: Spider-Man cat uses webs on Sam Manit.
59:40 --> 59:41 [SPEAKER_02]: It's just doesn't work.
59:41 --> 59:49 [SPEAKER_02]: That's why he would never do that And that's why you see him using two by fours and whatever you said he would use But if it's if it's if it's his first encounter
59:50 --> 59:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, and the thing that he was doing, it means once.
59:53 --> 59:53 [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
59:53 --> 59:55 [SPEAKER_03]: And where's the first in coming?
59:55 --> 59:59 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because the thing is, all these people getting infected at the same camp at the same time.
01:00:00 --> 01:00:07 [SPEAKER_03]: But the way that Riley gets affected is different than the other people.
01:00:07 --> 01:00:09 [SPEAKER_03]: The prisoners were experimented on, he wasn't.
01:00:10 --> 01:00:12 [SPEAKER_01]: The way he gets affected is freaking gross.
01:00:13 --> 01:00:22 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, Ron, it's important for you to encounter with Flint, aka Sandman, is also the first time we see Ben uses powers.
01:00:23 --> 01:00:26 [SPEAKER_03]: And it's also Ben trying not to reveal that he is the spider.
01:00:27 --> 01:00:28 [SPEAKER_03]: He can't, he doesn't want to be a spider.
01:00:29 --> 01:00:38 [SPEAKER_03]: He doesn't want to be that and he knows if he does anything as a spider, then he'll he'll he'll the gigs up and he'll you know Flint will know who he is.
01:00:38 --> 01:00:43 [SPEAKER_03]: So he's always balancing keeping that a secret from everyone in the show.
01:00:43 --> 01:00:50 [SPEAKER_03]: Except for like his secretary Robbie and then eventually someone else.
01:00:51 --> 01:00:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Well I'm
01:00:53 --> 01:00:55 [SPEAKER_01]: I think in and all though, it's worth watching the show.
01:01:01 --> 01:01:03 [SPEAKER_01]: I personally was a little disappointed.
01:01:03 --> 01:01:06 [SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't say it was a horrible show or terrible show.
01:01:06 --> 01:01:09 [SPEAKER_01]: If they'd make a season two, I'd watch season two.
01:01:09 --> 01:01:11 [SPEAKER_01]: But it wouldn't be the kind of thing like I'm going to be waiting for.
01:01:12 --> 01:01:13 [SPEAKER_01]: And there's something better on it.
01:01:13 --> 01:01:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Probably watch it.
01:01:15 --> 01:01:18 [SPEAKER_01]: But it's worth watching.
01:01:18 --> 01:01:19 [SPEAKER_03]: You would catch it.
01:01:19 --> 01:01:20 [SPEAKER_03]: You would catch it if it.
01:01:20 --> 01:01:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it becomes a season two.
01:01:21 --> 01:01:22 [SPEAKER_01]: I want it.
01:01:22 --> 01:01:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:01:23 --> 01:01:24 [SPEAKER_01]: I was disappointed.
01:01:24 --> 01:01:26 [SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't end with him swinging.
01:01:26 --> 01:01:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Like very last shot.
01:01:29 --> 01:01:31 [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, that would be so corny, dude.
01:01:31 --> 01:01:36 [SPEAKER_03]: It's not what you're talking about in the Spider-Man show without Spider-Man.
01:01:36 --> 01:01:38 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm talking off topic question.
01:01:38 --> 01:01:39 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
01:01:39 --> 01:01:43 [SPEAKER_00]: Would you rather be Valerian or Targaryen?
01:01:44 --> 01:01:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, we're Valerian and the book are in the TV show.
01:01:48 --> 01:01:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, give me a shot.
01:01:50 --> 01:01:51 [SPEAKER_00]: Just give me a shot because I don't know the book.
01:01:53 --> 01:01:54 [SPEAKER_01]: That's a good quote.
01:01:54 --> 01:01:55 [SPEAKER_01]: I'd probably rather be Valerian.
01:01:55 --> 01:01:57 [SPEAKER_00]: Valerian is older, right?
01:01:57 --> 01:01:59 [SPEAKER_00]: The Valerian are technically equal.
01:01:59 --> 01:01:59 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:02:00 --> 01:02:02 [SPEAKER_00]: I thought the Valerians were older.
01:02:02 --> 01:02:03 [SPEAKER_00]: Which ones are the Valerians?
01:02:03 --> 01:02:04 [SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
01:02:04 --> 01:02:05 [SPEAKER_03]: The Black people.
01:02:05 --> 01:02:07 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, just on GP, I'm going Valerian.
01:02:08 --> 01:02:08 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:02:08 --> 01:02:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Me too.
01:02:09 --> 01:02:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Me too.
01:02:10 --> 01:02:11 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't remember them.
01:02:11 --> 01:02:15 [SPEAKER_02]: I did turn Gary in there.
01:02:16 --> 01:02:18 [SPEAKER_02]: Just kidding.
01:02:18 --> 01:02:19 [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
01:02:19 --> 01:02:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
01:02:22 --> 01:02:23 [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
01:02:24 --> 01:02:26 [SPEAKER_02]: I said, I, I think I'm totally wrong.
01:02:27 --> 01:02:29 [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, I couldn't remember if the Valerians have the dragon.
01:02:31 --> 01:02:34 [SPEAKER_02]: The dragon pull like the Targaryens did, but they did.
01:02:34 --> 01:02:36 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the dragon way.
01:02:37 --> 01:02:57 [SPEAKER_01]: You know how a Targaryen like walk up to a dragon and the dragon will recognize his Targaryen Yeah, sure if the Valerians had that same not really though The Targaryens have the Valerians in them, so they should so here's the so first of all for the record next week We're going to is your homework
01:02:58 --> 01:03:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Season three premieres, Sunday, watch it.
01:03:02 --> 01:03:04 [SPEAKER_01]: That is going to be, I can get into you.
01:03:05 --> 01:03:05 [SPEAKER_02]: I can do that.
01:03:06 --> 01:03:10 [SPEAKER_01]: That is going to be the crux of the episodes throughout the next few weeks.
01:03:11 --> 01:03:17 [SPEAKER_01]: But to your point, Javan, because I just finished watching the blast the first two seasons.
01:03:19 --> 01:03:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, they make it, they seem to establish that only Targaryens have the ability to be dragon writers.
01:03:26 --> 01:03:30 [SPEAKER_01]: The, the larynx that we see who our dragon writers are part Targaryen.
01:03:30 --> 01:03:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Like their mom is right.
01:03:33 --> 01:03:33 [SPEAKER_00]: That.
01:03:33 --> 01:03:37 [SPEAKER_00]: And then there's the young brother who, who, who rides.
01:03:38 --> 01:03:38 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:03:38 --> 01:03:39 [SPEAKER_00]: Black guy.
01:03:39 --> 01:03:40 [SPEAKER_00]: He's not mixed.
01:03:40 --> 01:03:41 [SPEAKER_00]: But no.
01:03:41 --> 01:03:43 [SPEAKER_01]: But we don't know who his mother is.
01:03:43 --> 01:03:44 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:03:44 --> 01:03:45 [SPEAKER_01]: We don't know his father is.
01:03:58 --> 01:04:01 [SPEAKER_01]: their fathers to see snake, but we don't know their mothers.
01:04:01 --> 01:04:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, the assumption based on their skin color is that their mother was a scoco.
01:04:07 --> 01:04:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:04:08 --> 01:04:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Whereas, because they make it clear that the sons of him, although his daughters who are also the daughter of the writer, their writer, their writer, their writer, but that's like a happy life.
01:04:20 --> 01:04:23 [SPEAKER_00]: But they're not mine, I don't know if you get on a spectrum.
01:04:23 --> 01:04:25 [SPEAKER_00]: But they don't look like the brothers.
01:04:25 --> 01:04:29 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, yeah, like they don't look like their money is darker.
01:04:30 --> 01:04:31 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, look at her color true.
01:04:31 --> 01:04:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's a good point so I'm being my daughter for those you know lunch Yeah, so I think that Since we don't know who their mother is it's put I would guess that their mother is a turkey
01:04:48 --> 01:05:00 [SPEAKER_03]: But the only thing that gives me the mother's target is that he married he's married to the wife of the no the bastard the bastard So I think it's a sister.
01:05:00 --> 01:05:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the only thing that gives me pause about saying that is Why I'm their skin complexion, but beyond that Most Targaryens would be of high-born
01:05:12 --> 01:05:18 [SPEAKER_01]: And then pressure I get is that where he got with probably wasn't, but we don't know.
01:05:19 --> 01:05:19 [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
01:05:20 --> 01:05:24 [SPEAKER_03]: And Hollywood isn't notorious for using black people for mixed people all the time.
01:05:26 --> 01:05:27 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, you see some dark people for mixed people.
01:05:28 --> 01:05:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's just supposed to be mixed.
01:05:29 --> 01:05:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was a show that was seen there.
01:05:35 --> 01:05:37 [SPEAKER_03]: That was a nice blend of mixed persons.
01:05:38 --> 01:05:39 [SPEAKER_00]: You have to happen to you.
01:05:39 --> 01:05:41 [SPEAKER_00]: Right, right, right.
01:05:42 --> 01:05:42 [SPEAKER_03]: Or go the other way.
01:05:43 --> 01:05:44 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, Anthony Hopkins is mixed.
01:05:44 --> 01:05:45 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, okay.
01:05:45 --> 01:05:45 [SPEAKER_03]: I get to it.
01:05:45 --> 01:05:46 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, she's a mix.
01:05:47 --> 01:05:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Good.
01:05:47 --> 01:05:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you guys remember the Jeffrey?
01:05:48 --> 01:05:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you guys remember the Jefferson's?
01:05:50 --> 01:05:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:05:51 --> 01:05:54 [SPEAKER_01]: And the, and the, and the, was it the, the willuses?
01:05:54 --> 01:05:56 [SPEAKER_01]: Who, who was the mixed couple?
01:05:56 --> 01:05:56 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:05:56 --> 01:05:57 [SPEAKER_01]: The willuses.
01:05:57 --> 01:05:57 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:05:57 --> 01:05:58 [SPEAKER_01]: The willuses.
01:05:58 --> 01:06:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Remember the episode where his, where, where we meet his, their son and he's like,
01:06:04 --> 01:06:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Straight up the white dude.
01:06:05 --> 01:06:07 [SPEAKER_00]: But wait, was it wasn't there?
01:06:07 --> 01:06:08 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
01:06:08 --> 01:06:09 [SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was just hell and son.
01:06:09 --> 01:06:11 [SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm thinking too progressively.
01:06:12 --> 01:06:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, no, I think it was there since both they're son.
01:06:14 --> 01:06:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because in the episode, he myths that he's black and it's his big shocker because he has straight hair and we're way off topic now.
01:06:24 --> 01:06:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
01:06:25 --> 01:06:27 [SPEAKER_01]: So I've been remissing my duties.
01:06:27 --> 01:06:29 [SPEAKER_01]: We were supposed to talk about also.
01:06:29 --> 01:06:33 [SPEAKER_01]: We're not going to be able to get into this in depth, but we were also supposed to talk about the MBA finals.
01:06:36 --> 01:06:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Quick minute.
01:06:36 --> 01:06:37 [SPEAKER_00]: Quick minute.
01:06:38 --> 01:06:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I can be like a quick mention.
01:06:40 --> 01:06:45 [SPEAKER_01]: I think why don't everyone just watch recap.
01:06:45 --> 01:06:49 [SPEAKER_01]: So I watched the recap of game whatever game it was where they came back from 29 points.
01:06:50 --> 01:06:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the recap was amazing.
01:06:52 --> 01:06:54 [SPEAKER_01]: You're like, why don't people just watch recaps?
01:06:54 --> 01:06:55 [SPEAKER_00]: Why are we looking at that?
01:06:55 --> 01:07:02 [SPEAKER_00]: I will answer that because one of your sports fans you want to witness this lie.
01:07:02 --> 01:07:07 [SPEAKER_00]: You want to see the entire Condition because you're feeling
01:07:07 --> 01:07:08 [SPEAKER_00]: Good point.
01:07:08 --> 01:07:10 [SPEAKER_00]: You're invested in emotionally.
01:07:10 --> 01:07:12 [SPEAKER_00]: What's the best thing for me?
01:07:12 --> 01:07:13 [SPEAKER_03]: What's the best thing for me?
01:07:13 --> 01:07:15 [SPEAKER_03]: Things you just sit there and kind of this little build.
01:07:15 --> 01:07:19 [SPEAKER_03]: You want to see all the action, all the webs and things swinging all around the once.
01:07:19 --> 01:07:20 [SPEAKER_03]: He doesn't want to wait for all that.
01:07:20 --> 01:07:21 [SPEAKER_01]: How do people take that?
01:07:21 --> 01:07:23 [SPEAKER_01]: I heard because the guy was just over.
01:07:24 --> 01:07:26 [SPEAKER_00]: But that was just the first half.
01:07:26 --> 01:07:26 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:07:26 --> 01:07:28 [SPEAKER_00]: That's the first half.
01:07:28 --> 01:07:30 [SPEAKER_00]: You're not a real fan.
01:07:30 --> 01:07:31 [SPEAKER_00]: True.
01:07:31 --> 01:07:32 [SPEAKER_00]: Special fans.
01:07:32 --> 01:07:33 [SPEAKER_00]: I would say this.
01:07:34 --> 01:07:36 [SPEAKER_00]: The recap just gives you the sugar.
01:07:39 --> 01:07:41 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, you watch the entire game for the whole meal.
01:07:41 --> 01:07:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's a fair.
01:07:43 --> 01:07:43 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:07:43 --> 01:07:58 [SPEAKER_02]: You watch the game for the drama and if you miss the beats, like somebody makes a basket and they're down 27, you got to see those beats in between whether the the the the the broadcasts are talking, the crowd is getting into it, then they're down 24, then they're down 20.
01:07:58 --> 01:07:58 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:07:58 --> 01:07:59 [SPEAKER_02]: Down 16.
01:07:59 --> 01:08:01 [SPEAKER_00]: When they cut the lead to 15, I knew the spurs were done.
01:08:01 --> 01:08:03 [SPEAKER_00]: The people who are in the middle of the season,
01:08:03 --> 01:08:05 [SPEAKER_02]: that the police went crazy at 15.
01:08:05 --> 01:08:07 [SPEAKER_02]: You'd like for a still now 15.
01:08:07 --> 01:08:10 [SPEAKER_02]: But they could just came down and I shot, I just ate up the clock.
01:08:11 --> 01:08:12 [SPEAKER_03]: They came up over 30 seconds.
01:08:12 --> 01:08:14 [SPEAKER_03]: Again, they're the back to the net.
01:08:14 --> 01:08:16 [SPEAKER_03]: And they stood up to the rev and they stood up.
01:08:16 --> 01:08:17 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:08:17 --> 01:08:22 [SPEAKER_02]: And in watching it, it took like 15, 20 minutes for 30 minutes for that to happen.
01:08:22 --> 01:08:25 [SPEAKER_02]: But if you're doing caps, it happens in 10 seconds.
01:08:25 --> 01:08:26 [SPEAKER_02]: You don't get that drama.
01:08:26 --> 01:08:27 [SPEAKER_01]: And you don't get that long in 10 seconds.
01:08:29 --> 01:08:31 [SPEAKER_01]: But on this cap was like 15 minutes.
01:08:31 --> 01:08:33 [SPEAKER_02]: But then you don't get it at all.
01:08:33 --> 01:08:38 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, no, no, I'm not trying to, it was just an idea.
01:08:38 --> 01:08:39 [SPEAKER_03]: You're frog in the pot, too.
01:08:39 --> 01:08:42 [SPEAKER_03]: It's like, it's like, okay, it's half time to down by 20.
01:08:42 --> 01:08:43 [SPEAKER_03]: Ooh, that's what happens.
01:08:43 --> 01:08:50 [SPEAKER_03]: And you start off in the first 10 minutes, they're back to, you know, oh, they knocked the off 10 points from the lead.
01:08:50 --> 01:08:53 [SPEAKER_03]: So it's like, you, you, oh, are they going to try to come back?
01:08:53 --> 01:08:57 [SPEAKER_03]: And then another 10 minutes goes by and you know, they knocked off another five, you know,
01:08:58 --> 01:08:59 [SPEAKER_03]: behind or whatever.
01:08:59 --> 01:09:01 [SPEAKER_03]: You just see them slowly catch them like a do-said.
01:09:01 --> 01:09:02 [SPEAKER_03]: I said, man, they're gonna let these fool.
01:09:02 --> 01:09:04 [SPEAKER_03]: I kept those, I'll tell you all like five times.
01:09:05 --> 01:09:06 [SPEAKER_03]: These fools gonna let these fools come back and win.
01:09:07 --> 01:09:07 [SPEAKER_03]: And sure enough.
01:09:08 --> 01:09:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Famer?
01:09:08 --> 01:09:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:09:08 --> 01:09:10 [SPEAKER_03]: Because it was one by one point.
01:09:10 --> 01:09:11 [SPEAKER_03]: It wasn't like they blasted past on it.
01:09:12 --> 01:09:13 [SPEAKER_03]: It was like the great drama.
01:09:14 --> 01:09:18 [SPEAKER_01]: I like the fact that the only game they lost was the one that Trump attended.
01:09:19 --> 01:09:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
01:09:20 --> 01:09:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Didn't think it was.
01:09:21 --> 01:09:22 [SPEAKER_00]: It was Steven A. said.
01:09:22 --> 01:09:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:09:23 --> 01:09:23 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:09:23 --> 01:09:24 [SPEAKER_00]: They shouldn't have been in the house.
01:09:25 --> 01:09:25 [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
01:09:26 --> 01:09:26 [SPEAKER_00]: And chocolate.
01:09:27 --> 01:09:27 [SPEAKER_02]: And chocolate.
01:09:28 --> 01:09:33 [SPEAKER_02]: And I do think watching this series is the perfect example of mental toughness because because the next day they didn't.
01:09:34 --> 01:09:36 [SPEAKER_00]: They didn't look around every game.
01:09:36 --> 01:09:37 [SPEAKER_00]: They were down every day.
01:09:37 --> 01:09:38 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, really.
01:09:38 --> 01:09:38 [SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
01:09:38 --> 01:09:39 [SPEAKER_00]: And aggressive.
01:09:39 --> 01:09:41 [SPEAKER_02]: And it is all out in the wins either.
01:09:41 --> 01:09:44 [SPEAKER_00]: They just got to hang back and get what they had to do.
01:09:44 --> 01:09:46 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
01:09:46 --> 01:09:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Was that your first time winning in a long time or something?
01:09:49 --> 01:09:49 [SPEAKER_01]: It's yours.
01:09:50 --> 01:09:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
01:09:51 --> 01:09:54 [SPEAKER_00]: Their last championship was in 1973.
01:09:54 --> 01:09:54 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:09:55 --> 01:09:55 [SPEAKER_01]: No one there.
01:09:56 --> 01:09:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, isn't there another New York basketball game or is that baseball?
01:09:59 --> 01:10:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Where there's two New York soccer games?
01:10:01 --> 01:10:01 [SPEAKER_01]: There you go.
01:10:01 --> 01:10:02 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, team.
01:10:02 --> 01:10:04 [SPEAKER_02]: You deserve the New Jersey net.
01:10:05 --> 01:10:05 [SPEAKER_02]: Jersey net.
01:10:05 --> 01:10:07 [SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm talking about New York.
01:10:08 --> 01:10:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, the New Jersey Jets in a book that there's a New York Giants in the New York Jets.
01:10:13 --> 01:10:14 [SPEAKER_01]: No, that's baseball.
01:10:15 --> 01:10:17 [SPEAKER_00]: I knew there were two New York baseball teams with a baseball basketball.
01:10:18 --> 01:10:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're the two New York basketball teams.
01:10:20 --> 01:10:25 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the New York mix and the New Jersey next.
01:10:25 --> 01:10:26 [SPEAKER_01]: New Jersey's that New York.
01:10:26 --> 01:10:27 [SPEAKER_01]: That isn't that count as New York.
01:10:28 --> 01:10:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Both New York football team play in New Jersey.
01:10:31 --> 01:10:32 [SPEAKER_00]: Which is it?
01:10:32 --> 01:10:36 [SPEAKER_00]: Both football teams, New York football teams playing in Jersey.
01:10:37 --> 01:10:42 [SPEAKER_01]: So, our Oakland Raiders fans, also a San Francisco giant fans?
01:10:42 --> 01:10:43 [SPEAKER_03]: Not at all.
01:10:43 --> 01:10:46 [SPEAKER_03]: Oakland Raiders are now the Las Vegas fans, they're not in Oakland.
01:10:46 --> 01:10:48 [SPEAKER_03]: But they used to be the Oakland Raiders.
01:10:48 --> 01:10:59 [SPEAKER_01]: New York Nick stands whenever New Jersey net swing right I'm just saying you're guys making it seem like New Jersey can also No, I'm just making the point.
01:10:59 --> 01:11:00 [SPEAKER_00]: He's telling you actual truth.
01:11:00 --> 01:11:01 [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, bacon the point.
01:11:01 --> 01:11:05 [SPEAKER_00]: That's why you're Okay, we're all teams play in Jersey
01:11:08 --> 01:11:10 [SPEAKER_03]: We're talking about basketball.
01:11:10 --> 01:11:11 [SPEAKER_03]: I know.
01:11:11 --> 01:11:14 [SPEAKER_03]: We're making a comparison, Ron, because they're both in the New York state area.
01:11:14 --> 01:11:18 [SPEAKER_00]: Because your question was, were there ever to New York basketball teams?
01:11:18 --> 01:11:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Great.
01:11:19 --> 01:11:20 [SPEAKER_01]: And the answer is no.
01:11:21 --> 01:11:21 [SPEAKER_00]: No.
01:11:22 --> 01:11:22 [SPEAKER_02]: That's all.
01:11:22 --> 01:11:23 [SPEAKER_00]: That's it.
01:11:23 --> 01:11:23 [SPEAKER_00]: That was my only question.
01:11:24 --> 01:11:24 [SPEAKER_01]: The answer is no.
01:11:24 --> 01:11:25 [SPEAKER_00]: Unless it's back.
01:11:25 --> 01:11:29 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they call themselves the Brooklyn Nets though sometimes.
01:11:30 --> 01:11:31 [SPEAKER_01]: Do they do?
01:11:31 --> 01:11:33 [SPEAKER_00]: They do call the Brooklyn.
01:11:33 --> 01:11:34 [SPEAKER_00]: They're known as the Brooklyn Nets.
01:11:34 --> 01:11:35 [SPEAKER_00]: They're based in Brooklyn.
01:11:35 --> 01:11:37 [SPEAKER_00]: They play at the bottom and said, is the New Jersey Nets?
01:11:38 --> 01:11:40 [SPEAKER_00]: You're no longer the New Jersey Nets.
01:11:40 --> 01:11:42 [SPEAKER_00]: Jay Z was instrumental in moving into the Brooklyn.
01:11:43 --> 01:11:44 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, what did that?
01:11:44 --> 01:11:45 [SPEAKER_00]: Then that would count then.
01:11:47 --> 01:11:49 [SPEAKER_00]: Got known as the New York net.
01:11:49 --> 01:11:49 [SPEAKER_00]: They're the new.
01:11:49 --> 01:11:50 [SPEAKER_00]: They're the Brooklyn net.
01:11:50 --> 01:11:51 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, whoa.
01:11:51 --> 01:11:51 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sick.
01:11:51 --> 01:11:53 [SPEAKER_00]: But Brooklyn is part of New York.
01:11:53 --> 01:11:54 [SPEAKER_00]: We get that.
01:11:54 --> 01:12:00 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, that's all I'm saying, but the nicks aren't known as them in the hat nicks, right.
01:12:01 --> 01:12:01 [SPEAKER_00]: True.
01:12:02 --> 01:12:02 [SPEAKER_00]: That's true.
01:12:03 --> 01:12:03 [SPEAKER_00]: That's fair.
01:12:03 --> 01:12:04 [SPEAKER_00]: That's fair.
01:12:05 --> 01:12:06 [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
01:12:06 --> 01:12:10 [SPEAKER_01]: So next week this assignment is to watch season three of Game of Thrones.
01:12:11 --> 01:12:12 [SPEAKER_01]: How's the dragon?
01:12:14 --> 01:12:17 [SPEAKER_01]: That would be our main topic of discussion moving forward.
01:12:17 --> 01:12:26 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll still have throwing some other do-rags parts of the conversations, but until then, this Ron JD, I do, and Devon, this went way longer.
01:12:26 --> 01:12:27 [SPEAKER_01]: But I think it was worthwhile.
01:12:27 --> 01:12:36 [SPEAKER_01]: It was important to talk and break these issues down for a show that was going to be set on the body gore and horrific imagery.
01:12:37 --> 01:12:44 [SPEAKER_01]: And we talked about, if we talked this long about a show that was only so, so what are we going to do for how's the drink?
01:12:45 --> 01:12:48 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, maybe some people just keep on talking, I warned you before, right?
01:13:01 --> 01:13:03 [SPEAKER_01]: We have a special bonus.
01:13:03 --> 01:13:08 [SPEAKER_01]: We are going to need a special bonus episode about this whole dude.
01:13:09 --> 01:13:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Don't let him off his thing.
01:13:12 --> 01:13:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:13:12 --> 01:13:16 [SPEAKER_03]: Because you, because that's not the only time you spoiled stuff for us, Ron.
01:13:17 --> 01:13:17 [UNKNOWN]: What?
01:13:18 --> 01:13:23 [SPEAKER_00]: You have a... Ron, you spoiled things, giving dinner, damn it.
01:13:23 --> 01:13:24 [SPEAKER_00]: I need a list.
01:13:25 --> 01:13:27 [SPEAKER_01]: I was my power to meet J.D.
01:13:28 --> 01:13:29 [SPEAKER_00]: Nice.
01:13:30 --> 01:13:30 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh my goodness.
01:13:31 --> 01:13:32 [UNKNOWN]: Wow.
01:13:32 --> 01:13:33 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh.
01:13:34 --> 01:13:38 [SPEAKER_02]: I was surprised.
01:13:38 --> 01:13:39 [SPEAKER_02]: It's just now.
01:13:40 --> 01:13:40 [SPEAKER_02]: What the heck?
01:13:40 --> 01:13:41 [SPEAKER_03]: I know that's wrong.
01:13:42 --> 01:13:43 [SPEAKER_03]: It's true.
01:13:43 --> 01:13:43 [SPEAKER_03]: J.D.
01:13:43 --> 01:13:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Your pleasure.
01:13:44 --> 01:13:45 [SPEAKER_01]: It's true.
01:13:45 --> 01:13:46 [SPEAKER_01]: I went normally never do that.
01:13:47 --> 01:13:48 [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
01:13:48 --> 01:13:49 [SPEAKER_01]: How he's going to do it always.
01:13:50 --> 01:13:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Very nice.
01:13:52 --> 01:13:53 [SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, this has been good.
01:13:54 --> 01:13:55 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm a high name, but I'm the thing.
01:13:55 --> 01:13:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
01:13:56 --> 01:13:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, it's the next week.
01:14:00 --> 01:14:00 [SPEAKER_01]: Peace.
01:14:01 --> 01:14:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Peace.