What better way to travel cheaply than listen to a great song? This week our hosts build one more list for Season 2, this time about their favorite songs about places. Nichole’s list is a little longer than Mark’s this time, but does quantity mean quality? Listen to be transported and find out!
Music heard in this episode: Jesse L. Martin - “Santa Fe” from Rent, Jeremy Jordan - “Santa Fe” from Newsies, Journey - “Lights”, Addison Groove Project - “Love and Happiness”, Dropkick Murphys - “I’m Shipping Up to Boston”, Suzanne Vega - “Tom’s Diner (DNA Remix)”, Taylor Swift - “So Long, London”, The Postal Service - “The District Sleeps Alone Tonight”, David Bowie - “Life on Mars”, Ben Folds - “Jesusland”, Belinda Carlisle - “Heaven is a Place on Earth”, Marc Cohn - “Walking in Memphis”, Bruce Springsteen - “Streets of Philadelphia”
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00:00 --> 00:01 [SPEAKER_00]: No other exposition needed.
00:01 --> 00:03 [SPEAKER_00]: We just never talk about David Bowie.
00:03 --> 00:06 [SPEAKER_07]: We kind of don't talk about David Bowie.
00:06 --> 00:07 [SPEAKER_07]: We should talk about David Bowie.
00:07 --> 00:08 [SPEAKER_00]: Add it to the list.
00:09 --> 00:09 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
00:10 --> 00:11 [SPEAKER_07]: What song would I want to talk about by Dave?
00:12 --> 00:13 [SPEAKER_00]: Just like the whole.
00:14 --> 00:15 [SPEAKER_00]: And we don't talk about prints enough either.
00:16 --> 00:18 [SPEAKER_07]: By the way, prints has come up more than just Bowie.
00:18 --> 00:18 [SPEAKER_00]: Come up.
00:18 --> 00:20 [SPEAKER_00]: David, this is our first mention.
00:21 --> 00:21 [SPEAKER_07]: Oh.
00:22 --> 00:22 [SPEAKER_07]: It's true.
00:23 --> 00:23 [SPEAKER_07]: Are you sure?
00:23 --> 00:24 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm very sure.
00:25 --> 00:28 [SPEAKER_07]: I'm going to do a control F on our Sean Hawkemon.
00:29 --> 00:33 [SPEAKER_07]: David Bowie was mentioned in the man who sold the world.
00:33 --> 00:36 [SPEAKER_07]: One of our fourth episode in that episode.
00:36 --> 00:40 [SPEAKER_07]: And then I brought up Rebel Rebel in episode 37.
00:41 --> 00:44 [SPEAKER_07]: Can't get you out of my head by Kylie Monogue and catchy intrusive thoughts.
00:44 --> 00:47 [SPEAKER_07]: So one of the most important musicians of the 20th century.
00:47 --> 00:48 [SPEAKER_07]: We've mentioned now.
00:49 --> 00:51 [SPEAKER_07]: Three times totally.
00:51 --> 00:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Very unintentionally, by the way.
01:04 --> 01:07 [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, I'm Mark, and I'm Nicole, and this is never mind the music.
01:07 --> 01:09 [SPEAKER_07]: Do you want to share what we're talking about today, Nicole?
01:10 --> 01:11 [SPEAKER_00]: What are we going to talk about today?
01:11 --> 01:23 [SPEAKER_00]: Today, I was thinking, we just recorded an episode about Africa by Toto, and I started brainstorming a list of other songs that are about places.
01:23 --> 01:27 [SPEAKER_07]: And the audience heard that episode probably like three weeks ago, so we've been thinking about it for three weeks.
01:28 --> 01:28 [SPEAKER_07]: We have.
01:29 --> 01:32 [SPEAKER_00]: So I came up with a list of songs about places.
01:33 --> 01:33 [SPEAKER_00]: that I'd love to share.
01:34 --> 01:36 [SPEAKER_00]: Do you have some songs about places we could talk about today?
01:36 --> 01:38 [SPEAKER_07]: I've got five, magic number five.
01:39 --> 01:42 [SPEAKER_07]: Are all of your real places, or do you have fantastical places?
01:42 --> 01:43 [SPEAKER_00]: There!
01:43 --> 01:49 [SPEAKER_00]: One is like a religious place, like, but most of them are like, yeah, like, you could point to them on a map.
01:50 --> 01:55 [SPEAKER_07]: Okay, so you've got how far he's here, but no, that's a good, what's that song like?
01:56 --> 01:58 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't have that one, but it is about happened.
01:58 --> 01:58 [SPEAKER_07]: Who's that?
01:58 --> 01:59 [SPEAKER_07]: I can't remember.
01:59 --> 02:00 [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, you got to have a song.
02:00 --> 02:02 [SPEAKER_07]: All right, should I cut it out or be spoiling it?
02:02 --> 02:03 [SPEAKER_07]: No, that's fine.
02:03 --> 02:07 [SPEAKER_07]: Because I've got one that's also like, possibly not real, but hypothetical.
02:08 --> 02:08 [SPEAKER_00]: All right.
02:09 --> 02:29 [SPEAKER_07]: But once I have all about a place in the way that matters, so like steward in the Avenue is a great green day song, but I don't know that it's really about those that intersection in Berkeley, California, or 9th at Pine, or Amsterdam, by various artists, those songs, you know, sometimes a name is just a name, right?
02:29 --> 02:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for sure.
02:30 --> 02:33 [SPEAKER_07]: I tried to pick ones where it seems like the place is relevant to the song.
02:34 --> 03:00 [SPEAKER_00]: same kind of yeah okay mostly yeah we'll see I think are we running almost at a steam on list side truth in this please be the last list because I feel like it's not going to be the last list well just we need to take a break because like you come in so hot with the lists and I'm like I don't know like the birthday song or like I don't know I'm like this song and I always like feel like a dud but I leave the list episodes but I think this time I've over corrected and I have a really great list.
03:00 --> 03:00 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
03:00 --> 03:06 [SPEAKER_07]: Folks, we've been talking about season three, like we're going to try to go at a different season one sidetracks for random conversations.
03:07 --> 03:10 [SPEAKER_07]: Season two sidetracks are either weird lists or guests.
03:11 --> 03:12 [SPEAKER_07]: What season three sidetracks are going to be?
03:12 --> 03:14 [SPEAKER_07]: We're going to figure something out.
03:14 --> 03:14 [SPEAKER_07]: Stay tuned.
03:14 --> 03:15 [SPEAKER_07]: We're working on it.
03:15 --> 03:16 [SPEAKER_07]: All right.
03:16 --> 03:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
03:16 --> 03:17 [SPEAKER_07]: Do you want to go first?
03:18 --> 03:18 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
03:18 --> 03:19 [SPEAKER_07]: How many do you have?
03:19 --> 03:24 [SPEAKER_00]: I have it's tough because I have two songs about the same place.
03:26 --> 03:27 [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, but then those are separate songs.
03:28 --> 03:28 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, cool.
03:28 --> 03:30 [SPEAKER_00]: So I have five, I'll say five.
03:30 --> 03:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, yeah.
03:30 --> 03:31 [SPEAKER_07]: Cool, go first.
03:31 --> 03:34 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, speaking of two songs about the same place.
03:34 --> 03:38 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's just start there because they've already like spoiled it.
03:38 --> 03:44 [SPEAKER_00]: The place is no, the, uh, an additional spoiling is Sanfe New Mexico.
03:44 --> 03:45 [SPEAKER_07]: definitely knew that.
03:45 --> 03:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Perfect.
03:46 --> 03:48 [SPEAKER_07]: So open up, or ester, right?
03:48 --> 03:49 [SPEAKER_07]: No.
03:49 --> 03:49 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
03:49 --> 03:50 [SPEAKER_00]: It's that from rent.
03:50 --> 03:52 [SPEAKER_00]: So it's open up a restaurant in Santa Fe.
03:52 --> 03:53 [SPEAKER_07]: Which version do you want?
03:53 --> 03:56 [SPEAKER_00]: I'd like the original Broadway cast recording I've been actually.
03:56 --> 03:57 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
03:57 --> 03:57 [SPEAKER_07]: I love that.
03:58 --> 04:00 [SPEAKER_07]: The performance is just so good.
04:00 --> 04:01 [SPEAKER_00]: It's so good.
04:01 --> 04:03 [SPEAKER_00]: This song's Santa Fe is from Broadway's rent.
04:03 --> 04:04 [SPEAKER_00]: You may have heard of it.
04:05 --> 04:07 [SPEAKER_00]: Where a character Tom Collins, he falls in love with Angel.
04:07 --> 04:11 [SPEAKER_00]: And they talk about
04:12 --> 04:27 [SPEAKER_00]: escaping from the doldrums of this New York life and moving to a place that they can just like live life the way that they want and it is about love and safety and living like in a non-judgmental place.
04:28 --> 04:32 [SPEAKER_00]: I can't imagine how Santa Fe's less judgmental than New York City but it was the
04:32 --> 04:33 [SPEAKER_00]: time and place matters.
04:33 --> 04:36 [SPEAKER_07]: Especially for a gay and trans couple.
04:36 --> 04:44 [SPEAKER_00]: Right, but yeah, that's the whole magic of the song that's like so idealizing about idealizing about this place of Santa face.
04:44 --> 04:45 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's hear it clip.
04:46 --> 04:48 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's open up a restaurant.
04:48 --> 04:48 [SPEAKER_02]: We're on a baseline.
04:48 --> 04:50 [SPEAKER_02]: Santa Fe.
04:50 --> 04:54 [SPEAKER_02]: Sully Santa Fe would be nice.
04:55 --> 04:59 [SPEAKER_05]: Let's open up a restaurant in Santa Fe.
05:00 --> 05:03 [SPEAKER_05]: And leave this to coaches and buy.
05:14 --> 05:14 [SPEAKER_07]: That's such a good song.
05:15 --> 05:18 [SPEAKER_00]: Can I just remind every all our listeners rent is so good?
05:19 --> 05:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Like every time I hear a clip of friend and I'm like, this is it.
05:21 --> 05:24 [SPEAKER_00]: Like we just need to be listening to that soundtrack all the time.
05:24 --> 05:25 [SPEAKER_07]: How did we do the crying?
05:26 --> 05:27 [SPEAKER_00]: It's without the crying.
05:27 --> 05:28 [SPEAKER_07]: Nobody brought up.
05:28 --> 05:31 [SPEAKER_00]: And you're as excited as it's like.
05:32 --> 05:41 [SPEAKER_00]: I can't even cover you so sad it's or the song where he's in the support group and they're going around like Forget it.
05:41 --> 05:42 [SPEAKER_00]: I can't even listen to it.
05:42 --> 05:43 [SPEAKER_07]: Got a good suspended chords.
05:44 --> 05:44 [SPEAKER_07]: It's beautiful.
05:44 --> 05:49 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so that but I need to do my next song back to back like you can't have a turn yet.
05:49 --> 05:51 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, because my next song
05:52 --> 05:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Also about Santa Fe.
05:54 --> 06:02 [SPEAKER_00]: Also from one of the top 20 musicals of all time, which is newsies has a song called Santa Fe sung by Jeremy Jordan.
06:02 --> 06:04 [SPEAKER_00]: That's the version I'd like to listen to.
06:04 --> 06:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Jeremy Jordan's an icon.
06:06 --> 06:06 [SPEAKER_07]: I don't know this.
06:07 --> 06:11 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, in the musical news, these, are you familiar with the plot?
06:11 --> 06:12 [SPEAKER_00]: No, it's okay.
06:12 --> 06:24 [SPEAKER_00]: So long story short, newsies are like newspaper sales, paper boys, and they have to buy their papers from like big newspaper, big paper, and then they sell them on the street to men.
06:24 --> 06:25 [SPEAKER_00]: That's how they make money.
06:26 --> 06:29 [SPEAKER_00]: So big papers raising the prices and the newsy strike.
06:29 --> 06:31 [SPEAKER_00]: And they're like, if we all have to stand together.
06:31 --> 06:33 [SPEAKER_07]: And this is like early 1900s or something like that.
06:33 --> 06:36 [SPEAKER_00]: They're like, you know, people are there's a character named Crutchie.
06:36 --> 06:37 [SPEAKER_00]: He coughs all the time.
06:37 --> 06:40 [SPEAKER_00]: And you know, they're like orphan boys on the streets of New York.
06:40 --> 06:42 [SPEAKER_00]: Also New York, different time in place.
06:43 --> 06:48 [SPEAKER_00]: So Jeremy Jordan, who's a lovely Broadway actor, plays the main character.
06:48 --> 06:50 [SPEAKER_00]: He's like the ringleader of all the newsies.
06:51 --> 06:52 [SPEAKER_00]: He's like the union leader, essentially.
06:53 --> 06:58 [SPEAKER_00]: This musical is about like what unions are and like how unions are important, right?
06:58 --> 07:07 [SPEAKER_00]: But Jeremy Jordan gets really frustrated with being a leader and he's like being a leader's dumb because they're like hitting all my friends and it's too much pressure and I just wanna go paint and be an artist.
07:07 --> 07:07 [SPEAKER_00]: All right.
07:08 --> 07:32 [SPEAKER_00]: So he sings the song about escaping to Santa Fe and he does is the major plot point in newsies like he actually goes to Santa Fe spoiler spoiler spoiler if you if you like Mark 20 year old or have never heard of newsies before so he sings the same song his character's name is Jack Kelly Jack Kelly sings the song Santa Fe with similar pretence as the rent song he's all it's open up
07:33 --> 07:42 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like it has the same tone to it and definitely same message like Santa Fe's where we're gonna find freedom of expression What part of the song?
07:43 --> 07:44 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not really sure, so
08:12 --> 08:33 [SPEAKER_00]: it's super cool and then you have to think like the folks that wrote rent new about newsies like there's no way no it was not I'm I'm newsies original has probably cast recording 2012 oh rent is 1996 that's wild huh I think of them in like chronological order of the stories and not
08:34 --> 08:35 [SPEAKER_07]: The setting cut the set.
08:35 --> 08:39 [SPEAKER_07]: I think I think rent is run was a set in the mid 90s, right?
08:39 --> 08:41 [SPEAKER_07]: Well, yeah, for sure.
08:41 --> 08:43 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so it's just what we can't cut it out.
08:43 --> 08:46 [SPEAKER_00]: That's It was an older music.
08:46 --> 08:47 [SPEAKER_07]: No, no, no, no, no, no.
08:48 --> 08:49 [SPEAKER_07]: Maybe we should leave the Senate.
08:49 --> 08:52 [SPEAKER_07]: Newsy's the musical is from 2012.
08:52 --> 08:54 [SPEAKER_07]: But there's a 1992 musical film.
08:57 --> 08:58 [SPEAKER_07]: Disney made.
08:58 --> 08:58 [SPEAKER_07]: How did I not see this?
08:58 --> 08:59 [SPEAKER_07]: We were 9 or 10.
08:59 --> 08:59 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
09:00 --> 09:07 [SPEAKER_07]: Like news has a play existed as a musical existed before the IP existed before rent two years.
09:07 --> 09:11 [SPEAKER_00]: There's a Disney movie and then like a pro shot that's like the Broadway.
09:11 --> 09:12 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
09:12 --> 09:14 [SPEAKER_00]: It was a movie then a musical on Broadway.
09:14 --> 09:14 [SPEAKER_07]: Yes.
09:15 --> 09:16 [SPEAKER_07]: It seems like that is true.
09:16 --> 09:16 [SPEAKER_07]: Yes.
09:17 --> 09:19 [SPEAKER_07]: And rent we rent came out in 96.
09:19 --> 09:19 [SPEAKER_07]: But
09:21 --> 09:31 [SPEAKER_07]: did rents like first version of like was was a song surrounding the time 92 like I don't know for a long time before they produced it.
09:31 --> 09:39 [SPEAKER_07]: Can I infuriate some people we talk we talked about musicals a bit maybe when we did I'm sure wicked right yeah last season.
09:39 --> 09:44 [SPEAKER_07]: I like a musical that's in conversation with the musical stylings of the era it comes.
09:45 --> 09:54 [SPEAKER_07]: There's something about like when I hear newsies like that is sort of generic musical theater style and it's Alan Minkin, which you write straight songs, but there's nothing that sounds like the air.
09:54 --> 09:56 [SPEAKER_07]: Now I've only heard that one song.
09:56 --> 10:01 [SPEAKER_07]: I don't know that it needs to be like if it's from the early 90s, I'm not saying it needs to sound like grunge or whatever.
10:01 --> 10:10 [SPEAKER_07]: But I like that rent songs with the 90s and I like that hair is late 60s and Tommy is late 6th.
10:10 --> 10:13 [SPEAKER_07]: Like it's not just, oh, it needs to be rock.
10:13 --> 10:21 [SPEAKER_07]: Like there's something weird to me about like a stage musical that comes out in 2012 that sounds like it was written in the 1990s.
10:21 --> 10:24 [SPEAKER_00]: And so funny because you famously dislike jukebox musicals.
10:25 --> 10:25 [SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
10:25 --> 10:36 [SPEAKER_07]: I want original songs, but like I want either, so but I do like, I do like how little shop of horrors is 70s show that sounds like the 50s.
10:36 --> 10:40 [SPEAKER_07]: Because it's like set in the, you can like, choose, I guess it's probably set in the 50s.
10:40 --> 10:46 [SPEAKER_07]: You can choose an identity that is not not of the era, but if you're not doing that, sound like 20, 26.
10:46 --> 10:49 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you don't want it to be timeless, like newsies.
10:50 --> 10:52 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe that's that's damning it.
10:52 --> 10:52 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
10:52 --> 10:53 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
10:53 --> 10:54 [SPEAKER_07]: I don't want it to feel.
10:54 --> 10:56 [SPEAKER_07]: I don't want it to be generic.
10:56 --> 10:57 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
10:57 --> 11:06 [SPEAKER_07]: That's I don't want to hear it and not know if this came out in 1950 versus I want a little bit of statement about what you're role in contemporary music is.
11:06 --> 11:08 [SPEAKER_07]: Well, I wanted to be a part of contemporary music.
11:08 --> 11:14 [SPEAKER_00]: But like you wanted to be part of the contemporary music of the time that the play takes place in.
11:14 --> 11:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Like Harry was really in the 80s, but it calls back to 1960s and the music is of that genre.
11:21 --> 11:23 [SPEAKER_00]: So you can do that.
11:23 --> 11:26 [SPEAKER_00]: Little shop is not, was not made in the 60s.
11:26 --> 11:28 [SPEAKER_07]: It's 70s, yeah, what the musical is, right?
11:28 --> 11:28 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
11:28 --> 11:35 [SPEAKER_07]: But Jesus Christ Superstar is like psychedelic rock kind of stuff set in 33 AD.
11:35 --> 11:38 [SPEAKER_07]: Like it doesn't have, I want you to do one of those two things.
11:38 --> 12:00 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, you want to be like John, like how about like hate his town that's like folk rock like Torrey most wrote the music I don't know it, but sounds great it's so I wanted to have what I what I guess what I want is it's to not sound like I don't want the genre to be musical theater sure I want it to be a musical theater that has a stylistic love taste time we need season three note more musicals
12:01 --> 12:03 [SPEAKER_07]: I don't know what the listeners are following us on that.
12:03 --> 12:03 [SPEAKER_07]: You'll have to write in the book.
12:03 --> 12:05 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that you're showing your bias.
12:05 --> 12:06 [SPEAKER_00]: I think the listeners are craving.
12:06 --> 12:07 [SPEAKER_07]: All right.
12:07 --> 12:08 [SPEAKER_07]: We'll see.
12:08 --> 12:09 [SPEAKER_07]: And he's found deep dive.
12:09 --> 12:09 [SPEAKER_07]: All right.
12:09 --> 12:09 [SPEAKER_07]: Can I go?
12:09 --> 12:12 [SPEAKER_07]: I don't have to take two in a row.
12:12 --> 12:13 [SPEAKER_00]: OK.
12:13 --> 12:14 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
12:14 --> 12:17 [SPEAKER_07]: I'm starting with kind of a simple one here.
12:17 --> 12:20 [SPEAKER_07]: Apparently originally intended to be about Los Angeles.
12:21 --> 12:23 [SPEAKER_07]: But as they were writing it, they adapted it.
12:23 --> 12:31 [SPEAKER_07]: So it's about their home city of San Francisco, 1978, journey lights sort of about a relationship.
12:32 --> 12:35 [SPEAKER_07]: But kind of just about the city by the bay.
12:36 --> 12:40 [SPEAKER_07]: And this is one going back to our photo episode, really fun to sing along with.
12:41 --> 12:42 [SPEAKER_07]: Possible with karaoke?
12:43 --> 12:45 [SPEAKER_07]: Probably be some hard notes, but possible.
12:45 --> 12:47 [SPEAKER_07]: More so than don't stop believing
12:56 --> 13:06 [SPEAKER_05]: When the lights go down in the city And the sun shines on
13:18 --> 13:19 [SPEAKER_00]: That's a great song.
13:19 --> 13:21 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I don't think there's much to talk about.
13:21 --> 13:22 [SPEAKER_07]: That's straightforward.
13:22 --> 13:22 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
13:22 --> 13:23 [SPEAKER_07]: It's about SF.
13:23 --> 13:26 [SPEAKER_07]: I feel like it embodies living right outside of SF for a few years.
13:26 --> 13:28 [SPEAKER_07]: It embodies it feels right.
13:28 --> 13:30 [SPEAKER_00]: It feels like San Francisco.
13:30 --> 13:30 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
13:30 --> 13:31 [SPEAKER_07]: Like the vibe of it.
13:31 --> 13:33 [SPEAKER_07]: I like that it's not about LA.
13:33 --> 13:33 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
13:33 --> 13:34 [SPEAKER_07]: Like they were why write it about LA.
13:34 --> 13:37 [SPEAKER_07]: If you're from SF and you're feeling that vibe, right.
13:37 --> 13:38 [SPEAKER_07]: Bring it.
13:51 --> 13:56 [SPEAKER_07]: Am I doing too in a row or are you am I just because I'm going to have to do too in a row eventually unless you've got six.
13:56 --> 13:57 [SPEAKER_00]: I have six.
13:57 --> 13:57 [SPEAKER_00]: I have six.
13:57 --> 13:58 [SPEAKER_00]: I have six.
13:58 --> 13:58 [SPEAKER_00]: I have six.
13:58 --> 13:59 [SPEAKER_00]: I have so many samples.
13:59 --> 14:00 [SPEAKER_00]: I want you to feel bad.
14:00 --> 14:00 [SPEAKER_07]: What do you got?
14:01 --> 14:03 [SPEAKER_00]: So you lived in San Francisco for a little while.
14:03 --> 14:04 [SPEAKER_00]: I am a Boston girl at heart.
14:04 --> 14:08 [SPEAKER_00]: I have a couple of songs that reference Boston but I will limit myself 31.
14:09 --> 14:11 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not dirty wire that's a little bit too on the nose.
14:11 --> 14:11 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
14:11 --> 14:13 [SPEAKER_00]: So the another one that's also pretty on the nose.
14:13 --> 14:17 [SPEAKER_00]: We talked about in a previous episode briefly, which is shipping up to Boston
14:20 --> 14:21 [SPEAKER_00]: feels like Boston.
14:21 --> 14:22 [SPEAKER_00]: It feels like my Boston.
14:23 --> 14:25 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, we definitely covered this beat a little bit.
14:26 --> 14:31 [SPEAKER_07]: I was asking you what are the Boston bands that this was like the toxicity episode was.
14:31 --> 14:43 [SPEAKER_00]: And actually, in listening that to that back, I thought of so many more Boston bands that I didn't shout out, which bands like Allison grew project, which is a great Boston band that I didn't even mention, and they were like my favorite bands coming up.
14:43 --> 14:45 [SPEAKER_00]: So I just need to put that somewhere.
14:45 --> 14:46 [SPEAKER_07]: Do you want me to pipe in a song by them?
14:47 --> 14:51 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they had a great cover of Love and Happiness during the Bondaroo concert.
15:10 --> 15:14 [SPEAKER_00]: They were really, you would love them because they had like horns and lots of energy and it was a good band.
15:14 --> 15:22 [SPEAKER_00]: But shipping up to Boston, dropping Murphy's feels like my Boston, more than dirty water does, or any arosmasong does.
15:24 --> 15:27 [SPEAKER_07]: And plus, we just played it a few episodes ago.
15:51 --> 15:53 [SPEAKER_07]: I wanted to play a different part of the song this time.
15:53 --> 15:55 [SPEAKER_07]: It's aggressively Boston.
15:55 --> 15:56 [SPEAKER_00]: It's aggressively Boston.
15:56 --> 15:58 [SPEAKER_00]: And like, I'm not an aggressively Irish.
15:58 --> 16:04 [SPEAKER_00]: And like, it's like heavy and little thing at the same time.
16:04 --> 16:07 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think that that summarizes Boston.
16:07 --> 16:08 [SPEAKER_07]: I'm a leader for you.
16:08 --> 16:10 [SPEAKER_00]: I love a compound meter, too.
16:10 --> 16:10 [SPEAKER_00]: You don't.
16:10 --> 16:11 [SPEAKER_00]: Can't keep me away.
16:11 --> 16:13 [SPEAKER_07]: Okay, this is
16:14 --> 16:20 [SPEAKER_07]: It feels like you're there, like a song that kind of brings you into the space.
16:20 --> 16:23 [SPEAKER_07]: This is Tom's Diner by Suzanne Vega.
16:24 --> 16:29 [SPEAKER_07]: This is specifically the DNA remix right because she originally did like the folk version no one knew.
16:30 --> 16:32 [SPEAKER_07]: Somebody remix it and it turned to a huge hit.
16:32 --> 16:33 [SPEAKER_07]: So this is the 1990 version.
16:34 --> 16:36 [SPEAKER_07]: She originally did the tune in 1987.
16:36 --> 16:40 [SPEAKER_07]: Apparently there's a place this is another New York song, Tom's restaurant in Manhattan.
16:41 --> 16:44 [SPEAKER_07]: This is like kind of like piano man by Billy Joel would be another one.
16:44 --> 16:44 [SPEAKER_07]: Okay.
16:44 --> 16:47 [SPEAKER_07]: Where it's like they're describing the people there.
16:47 --> 16:50 [SPEAKER_07]: It's just sort of like someone observing the place this diner apparently.
16:51 --> 16:59 [SPEAKER_07]: And it feels like it pulls you in, kind of you get to be pulled inside the characters she's watching, but also by extension her and the place itself.
17:25 --> 17:31 [SPEAKER_00]: So you're talking about place here, it's just like in just a place, not like a, not a city, not a continent.
17:32 --> 17:35 [SPEAKER_07]: You're like just like a, Tom's restaurant in Manhattan.
17:36 --> 17:36 [SPEAKER_00]: Interesting.
17:36 --> 17:38 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
17:38 --> 17:39 [SPEAKER_00]: I like the folk version better.
17:39 --> 17:39 [SPEAKER_00]: Hot take.
17:40 --> 17:41 [SPEAKER_07]: Big surprise.
17:41 --> 17:42 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a surprise surprise.
17:42 --> 17:43 [SPEAKER_07]: The trip hop style isn't hers.
17:44 --> 17:44 [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, you got it.
17:45 --> 17:52 [SPEAKER_00]: My next one is about a place, but more like how we attach places to people.
17:53 --> 18:05 [SPEAKER_00]: And this song, even when I listen to it, like I know it's about heartache, I feel my chest get tight, like I feel a heaviness and anxiety and like a claustrophobia.
18:06 --> 18:07 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think that that can be really powerful.
18:08 --> 18:11 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a so-long London, but Taylor Swift from Torture Poets.
18:12 --> 18:19 [SPEAKER_00]: It's on the first album of that early in the super long set list and he's not the only London song.
18:19 --> 18:25 [SPEAKER_00]: No, so long but this isn't even the beat in the back like feels like her heart beat.
18:49 --> 18:53 [SPEAKER_00]: The melody like follows the London bells, now those bells.
19:12 --> 19:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Westminster Abbey's church choir and the lyrics to the song are just I know we know listeners.
19:21 --> 19:22 [SPEAKER_00]: I like Taylor Swift.
19:22 --> 19:23 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm I'm into her
19:24 --> 19:37 [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm into how her songs are very autobiographical, and when the album came out, there was so much speculation, like, is it going to be about her breakup with her former long-term boyfriend, who's from London?
19:38 --> 19:43 [SPEAKER_00]: And this was the only song in the album that really honored that, and it was so heavy and powerful.
19:44 --> 19:50 [SPEAKER_00]: And some of the lyrics are just still slap you across the face like that you say I banned in the ship, but I was going down with it.
19:51 --> 20:06 [SPEAKER_00]: The fact that he was like pulling her down into the lake and like dampening her and you can so feel that in the song and it really resonates with me from a lyrical standpoint and how the lyrics matched like the tone and the frequency of the song is really great for me and heavy.
20:06 --> 20:07 [SPEAKER_00]: I like it.
20:07 --> 20:08 [SPEAKER_07]: Cool.
20:08 --> 20:08 [SPEAKER_07]: Cool.
20:08 --> 20:09 [SPEAKER_07]: All right.
20:09 --> 20:12 [SPEAKER_07]: So mid 2000s indie music.
20:12 --> 20:15 [SPEAKER_07]: There was a lot of like stream of consciousness, type lyrics.
20:15 --> 20:17 [SPEAKER_07]: I feel like a lot of the dream hydros songs.
20:17 --> 20:21 [SPEAKER_07]: I was writing in the late 2000s, early 2010s were influenced by this kind of thing.
20:22 --> 20:22 [SPEAKER_07]: And
20:23 --> 20:28 [SPEAKER_07]: This song is sort of about Washington, D.C., but it's really just set in Washington, D.C.
20:28 --> 20:38 [SPEAKER_07]: But I think it's really about a more specific place than that that I couldn't name, but the song is The District Sleeps Alone Tonight, from 2003 by the Postal Service.
20:39 --> 20:47 [SPEAKER_07]: And it's not even really about the cities so much as it seems like the protagonist is stuck in a building's like security check-in point trying to get into the apartment.
20:48 --> 20:50 [SPEAKER_07]: He realizes now he's a stranger there.
20:50 --> 20:52 [SPEAKER_07]: like the relationship is ended or something.
20:53 --> 20:57 [SPEAKER_07]: And he has this has to wear a name tag now or something.
20:57 --> 20:59 [SPEAKER_07]: He's just a visitor this time around.
20:59 --> 21:08 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, the district of Columbia comes up in the title, but it's really almost about the apartment of a former partner is what it seems to be about.
21:08 --> 21:11 [SPEAKER_07]: Or a long distance relationship or something like that.
21:11 --> 21:17 [SPEAKER_07]: I'm not exactly sure, but it really, there's an immediacy to it kind of like in Tom's Diner that really brings me there.
21:40 --> 21:41 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't love you
21:56 --> 22:13 [SPEAKER_05]: So out with context and the Scottie apartment complex The stranger will endure key explaining that I'm just busy And I am finally seeing what I was the one we're leaving
22:15 --> 22:18 [SPEAKER_00]: I haven't listened to that song in so long.
22:18 --> 22:19 [SPEAKER_00]: I loved the postal service.
22:19 --> 22:21 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I know that was a long clip.
22:21 --> 22:22 [SPEAKER_07]: Sorry, guys.
22:22 --> 22:23 [SPEAKER_07]: Don't sue me, Ben, and company.
22:23 --> 22:24 [SPEAKER_07]: I think they're fine.
22:24 --> 22:38 [SPEAKER_07]: But yeah, there's just something about the way that, like I said, sort of stream of consciousness kind of holds you into this guy's head, which is in this very unusual kind of unsafe, almost place, emotionally at least.
22:39 --> 22:39 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
22:39 --> 22:55 [SPEAKER_00]: So, you can like transition to like feeling unsafe emotionally and looking for a place to escape to and mention life on Mars by David Bowie, which is a really great song full stop.
22:56 --> 22:58 [SPEAKER_00]: No other exposition needed.
22:58 --> 23:00 [SPEAKER_00]: We just never talk about David Bowie.
23:00 --> 23:02 [SPEAKER_07]: We kind of don't talk about David Bowie.
23:02 --> 23:03 [SPEAKER_07]: We should talk about David Bowie.
23:10 --> 23:12 [SPEAKER_00]: And we don't talk about prints enough either.
23:13 --> 23:15 [SPEAKER_07]: By the way, prints has come up more than this is coming up.
23:15 --> 23:17 [SPEAKER_00]: David, this is our first mention.
23:17 --> 23:19 [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, it's true.
23:19 --> 23:20 [SPEAKER_07]: Are you sure?
23:20 --> 23:20 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm very sure.
23:21 --> 23:25 [SPEAKER_07]: I'm going to do a control F on our document.
23:26 --> 23:29 [SPEAKER_07]: David Bowie was mentioned in the man who sold the world.
23:30 --> 23:40 [SPEAKER_07]: One of our fourth episodes and then I brought up Rebel Rebel in episode 37 can't get you out of my head by Kylie Monogue and catchy intrusive thoughts.
23:40 --> 23:45 [SPEAKER_07]: So one of the most important musicians of the 20th century we've mentioned now.
23:46 --> 23:49 [SPEAKER_00]: three times only very unintentionally by the way.
23:49 --> 23:52 [SPEAKER_00]: The first the first was more intentional.
23:53 --> 23:58 [SPEAKER_07]: What makes you think that me bringing in rebel rebel is an example of a of a variation.
23:58 --> 23:59 [SPEAKER_00]: I think you're just like so impressive.
23:59 --> 24:01 [SPEAKER_07]: No, no, no, no, I played the well, very good.
24:02 --> 24:04 [SPEAKER_07]: Okay, so life on Mars it is.
24:17 --> 24:35 [SPEAKER_05]: I just want to excuse you to talk about what labyrinth.
24:36 --> 24:36 [SPEAKER_00]: So good.
24:37 --> 24:40 [SPEAKER_00]: That's why you want to talk about do you going to be able to talk about labyrinth in the
24:43 --> 24:43 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
24:44 --> 24:44 [SPEAKER_00]: I love puppets.
24:44 --> 24:45 [SPEAKER_00]: They were so good.
24:45 --> 24:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Those flamingos scared the shit out of me when I was the ones that come in break into parts or whatever.
24:51 --> 24:55 [SPEAKER_00]: Like they break into parts or toss their hands around and then you can watch them behind the scenes because that's all puppets.
24:56 --> 25:04 [SPEAKER_00]: So the way they felt it was like the first time they figured out like the premise of a green screen but they didn't use a green screen like how they filmed it.
25:04 --> 25:07 [SPEAKER_07]: They removed the puppeteers or something.
25:07 --> 25:21 [SPEAKER_00]: No, they had a black background in the puppeteers wearing all black and then the neon flamingos and they just filmed it and then like color shifted color corrected to like blend out the people because they were all wearing black with like everything painted black.
25:22 --> 25:23 [SPEAKER_07]: Good job, Jim.
25:23 --> 25:23 [SPEAKER_07]: Jim.
25:23 --> 25:24 [SPEAKER_07]: Jim.
25:24 --> 25:24 [SPEAKER_07]: Jim.
25:24 --> 25:26 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, he's like knew what was up for sure.
25:27 --> 25:27 [SPEAKER_00]: All right.
25:47 --> 25:48 [SPEAKER_07]: This is not a real place.
25:48 --> 25:50 [SPEAKER_07]: It's ironic, but it kind of is a real place.
25:50 --> 25:56 [SPEAKER_07]: This is Jesus' land by Ben Foulds, 2005, inspired by Middle America.
25:56 --> 26:01 [SPEAKER_07]: He's from North Carolina, so I don't know if that's like, is he talking about kind of maybe the South?
26:01 --> 26:04 [SPEAKER_07]: Also, I'm not exactly sure, possibly, yeah.
26:04 --> 26:08 [SPEAKER_07]: But also the commercialization of Jesus and Christianity, right?
26:09 --> 26:13 [SPEAKER_07]: So another one like Tom's diner, I think that kind of puts you there, right?
26:13 --> 26:14 [SPEAKER_07]: It really lifts in the chorus, too.
26:14 --> 26:15 [SPEAKER_07]: I don't know, do you know the song?
26:16 --> 26:39 [SPEAKER_05]: Down the tracks, beautiful make mansions on a fell That I'll overlook a highway The river above the scene is empty still We've yet to see a soul Jesus' name
26:46 --> 26:47 [SPEAKER_00]: She's a slut.
26:47 --> 26:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Benfolds is also very, very good.
26:51 --> 26:52 [SPEAKER_00]: Very, very talented.
26:52 --> 26:52 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a good position.
26:52 --> 26:54 [SPEAKER_07]: How many times does he come up on the bucket?
26:54 --> 26:54 [SPEAKER_07]: Never.
26:54 --> 26:55 [SPEAKER_07]: Not enough.
26:55 --> 26:56 [SPEAKER_00]: This is the first time.
26:57 --> 26:57 [SPEAKER_00]: No.
26:57 --> 26:57 [SPEAKER_00]: First time.
26:58 --> 26:59 [SPEAKER_00]: I have another one to add to the list.
26:59 --> 27:03 [SPEAKER_07]: Control F. Benfolds has, in fact, never come.
27:03 --> 27:05 [SPEAKER_07]: Well, at least never been played.
27:05 --> 27:06 [SPEAKER_07]: I'm not looking up a transfer.
27:06 --> 27:07 [SPEAKER_07]: I'm looking up.
27:07 --> 27:09 [SPEAKER_07]: Which songs have a period?
27:09 --> 27:10 [SPEAKER_07]: Because I do keep a running list of that.
27:10 --> 27:13 [SPEAKER_07]: So I don't accidentally use the same example more than 10 times.
27:13 --> 27:15 [SPEAKER_00]: Have we have more than 10 times?
27:15 --> 27:42 [SPEAKER_00]: you got one more I have one more sweet to piggyback off of your Jesus thing I guess I'm trying to like find connections heaven is a place on earth okay but Linda herself but Linda Carlisle herself this is a song that I listened to so much as a kid when the song came out it was like my absolute favorite song I would listen to it on repeat and I just like love the Linda Carlisle I think she's awesome she's such like a mentor for me and this song is like an
27:44 --> 27:53 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's really about like being present and recognizing that like you have everything you need right in front of you, but it's also like Loki, Hikki, about heaven.
27:53 --> 27:57 [SPEAKER_07]: I'll play the hook, but I'm also going to play a really bang or pre-chorus this has.
27:57 --> 27:58 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, great.
27:58 --> 28:00 [SPEAKER_00]: I lose and everything and I love a pre-chorus.
28:24 --> 28:29 [SPEAKER_00]: You know what, now that I'm an adult listening to that, I realize it's not about happening all it's about.
28:30 --> 28:30 [SPEAKER_00]: SEX.
28:30 --> 28:31 [SPEAKER_07]: It's about SE.
28:32 --> 28:40 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like when you watch J dancing for the first time as a grown-up, and you're like, oh, Patrick's way as he was too old, like the dad was right to be mad about it.
28:41 --> 28:42 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's kind of the feeling I'm getting now.
28:43 --> 28:44 [SPEAKER_07]: When you've seen it from a different person.
28:44 --> 28:47 [SPEAKER_00]: I just love her like little top hat that she wore in that music video.
28:48 --> 28:49 [SPEAKER_07]: We're talking about Bollinda.
28:49 --> 28:50 [SPEAKER_07]: We're talking about Bollinda.
28:50 --> 28:51 [SPEAKER_00]: We're talking about Mark.
28:54 --> 28:55 [SPEAKER_07]: All right, I got one more.
28:55 --> 28:58 [SPEAKER_07]: All right, this is, you could file it in the category.
28:58 --> 29:01 [SPEAKER_07]: I want to go to this place and have such a cathartic experience like this.
29:01 --> 29:03 [SPEAKER_07]: And I don't think I will, though.
29:03 --> 29:07 [SPEAKER_07]: This is walking in Memphis, Mark Cohen, 1990.
29:08 --> 29:25 [SPEAKER_07]: So this is based on like, apparently he went to Memphis and had like he went to visit Grace Land ride and like follow Elvis's footsteps, but had all these kind of spiritually fulfilling and musically fulfilling experiences that it's kind of it's hard if you listen to this song as an adult.
29:25 --> 29:31 [SPEAKER_07]: I think I ignored it as a kid as sort of like adult contemporary, like kind of just not my scene or whatever when it came.
29:31 --> 29:33 [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, I was eight years old that it was not my scene.
29:34 --> 29:36 [SPEAKER_07]: But, darn, it's pretty awesome.
29:36 --> 29:37 [SPEAKER_07]: You don't have the song, right?
29:37 --> 29:37 [SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm, yeah, first.
29:59 --> 30:10 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm walking in my heart But do it in the field of the way I feel On our last list episode
30:11 --> 30:14 [SPEAKER_07]: I think I criticized some misused choir.
30:14 --> 30:16 [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, I think the choir's good in that song.
30:16 --> 30:17 [SPEAKER_00]: This is really shines here.
30:18 --> 30:22 [SPEAKER_07]: I feel low like playing a random tiny bit at the end of the song.
30:22 --> 30:22 [SPEAKER_07]: It kind of ruins it.
30:23 --> 30:24 [SPEAKER_07]: Like it hits hard.
30:24 --> 30:26 [SPEAKER_07]: It hits when you hear the whole thing.
30:26 --> 30:27 [SPEAKER_07]: You need the build for sure.
30:27 --> 30:31 [SPEAKER_07]: You can't start with a choir unless it's literally a choir that you're watching, right?
30:31 --> 30:32 [SPEAKER_00]: Would you give me one more example?
30:33 --> 30:37 [SPEAKER_07]: Would I give you one more to allow you to have one more?
30:37 --> 30:39 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I wasn't going to include it.
30:39 --> 30:41 [SPEAKER_00]: It was on my short list of honorable mentions.
30:42 --> 30:43 [SPEAKER_00]: But I think it helped us.
30:43 --> 30:46 [SPEAKER_00]: No, I thought I had that noted, but that wasn't it.
30:46 --> 30:47 [SPEAKER_07]: Hell of a drug.
30:47 --> 30:48 [SPEAKER_00]: It is a hell of a drug.
30:49 --> 30:53 [SPEAKER_00]: But no, this song kind of gives a walking in Memphis vibe.
30:53 --> 30:55 [SPEAKER_00]: Like you're walking around to city and like taking it all in.
30:56 --> 30:58 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's the streets of Philadelphia by Bruce Springstein.
30:59 --> 31:01 [SPEAKER_07]: That's the song from Philadelphia, right?
31:01 --> 31:02 [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
31:02 --> 31:02 [SPEAKER_07]: The film?
31:02 --> 31:03 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think so.
31:26 --> 31:27 [SPEAKER_00]: What meters that in?
31:28 --> 31:28 [SPEAKER_07]: Or four?
31:28 --> 31:29 [SPEAKER_00]: Is it?
31:29 --> 31:30 [SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't figure it out.
31:30 --> 31:31 [SPEAKER_00]: I was thinking too high.
31:31 --> 31:32 [SPEAKER_00]: I was overthinking it.
31:32 --> 31:32 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
31:32 --> 31:34 [SPEAKER_07]: It's just syncopated.
31:34 --> 31:36 [SPEAKER_07]: It's just syncopated in class like Bruce.
31:37 --> 31:46 [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, that idea of wandering around the city and seeing yourself in that place and really being present in the moment, I just think that that's how I reference this that well.
31:46 --> 31:47 [SPEAKER_00]: That's a great song.
31:47 --> 31:50 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's a softer side of Bruce Springsteen, which I don't think we're seeing enough of.
31:51 --> 31:52 [SPEAKER_07]: Bruce in the 90s.
31:53 --> 31:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
31:53 --> 31:54 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, interesting.
31:56 --> 31:56 [SPEAKER_07]: That's right.
31:57 --> 32:01 [SPEAKER_07]: But there was Denham, I mean, his ass is the cover of Born in the USA.
32:01 --> 32:02 [SPEAKER_07]: That's 1985, right?
32:02 --> 32:03 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I'm from Denham.
32:03 --> 32:05 [SPEAKER_07]: It was truckier for money.
32:05 --> 32:06 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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