David welcomes Ian from The Captain's Pod and John from the Dune Minute podcast for a wide-ranging mid-season conversation about The Pitt Season 2. The discussion explores Langdon's recovery journey and the spectrum of forgiveness he encounters from colleagues, the authenticity of addiction representation on screen, and why Dr. Robbie's guilt over failing his mentee creates such powerful tension. They compare the emotional intensity of Season 1 versus the more sustainable pacing of Season 2, debate whether Ogilvy will ever get the three-dimensional character treatment that Joy recently received, and wrap up with a spirited "Baby Jane Doe" accent challenge from Lorehounds community members.
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00:15 --> 00:23 [SPEAKER_05]: Hey everybody, David from the lower-hounds here, it is season two of the pit and we're about mid-season.
00:23 --> 00:31 [SPEAKER_05]: And I was chatting with a couple of our other podcasting friends, Captain Ian from the Captain Spot.
00:32 --> 00:33 [SPEAKER_05]: It was like, oh my god, the pit!
00:33 --> 00:35 [SPEAKER_05]: I love it so much!
00:35 --> 00:36 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it was a thing.
00:36 --> 00:38 [SPEAKER_03]: Did you have an already asked me to talk about it?
00:38 --> 00:40 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I see you're doing some coverage of the pit.
00:41 --> 00:43 [SPEAKER_05]: I quite liked it.
00:43 --> 00:48 [SPEAKER_05]: And John from the Dune Minute Podcast, I was just over there on a podcast with you guys.
00:48 --> 00:56 [SPEAKER_05]: And when we were chatting, again, the pit came up and you were like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
00:56 --> 00:58 [SPEAKER_04]: So look, there's two things that I love, right?
00:58 --> 00:59 [SPEAKER_04]: Well, three things.
00:59 --> 01:01 [SPEAKER_04]: First of all, Dune, second of all, worms.
01:02 --> 01:03 [SPEAKER_04]: And third of all,
01:04 --> 01:08 [SPEAKER_05]: Dr. Robbie Revinovich, yes, yes, indeed.
01:09 --> 01:10 [SPEAKER_05]: We'll get into it.
01:10 --> 01:11 [SPEAKER_05]: We will get into it.
01:12 --> 01:20 [SPEAKER_05]: So this is just kind of, I thought, well, hey, midseason, we'll get a couple of our friends together, we'll talk about a show that we're all enjoying.
01:20 --> 01:27 [SPEAKER_05]: Of course, John, not you, John, do a minute podcast, but John, Laura, and John, and I are covering it weekly.
01:27 --> 01:29 [SPEAKER_05]: We started out kind of on a,
01:29 --> 01:44 [SPEAKER_05]: Vibes check, like, oh, we'll do half hour, 40, 40 minutes, 45 minutes on it on a Friday, just kind of hike, hike, you know, and just do it, and then it's just, we can't, you just can't do that with this show, it's too deep, it's too complex, it's too involved.
01:45 --> 01:48 [SPEAKER_05]: Now we've got a show guide, you know, on the on the notion platform where you can.
01:48 --> 01:50 [SPEAKER_05]: Thank you, by the way, very helpful.
01:50 --> 01:51 [SPEAKER_05]: Thank you very much.
01:51 --> 02:07 [SPEAKER_05]: And I'm doing, you know, second watch and spending like two hours rewatching less than an hour home episode right up notes and pulling into, you know, doing medical research on all kinds of stuff.
02:07 --> 02:15 [SPEAKER_05]: but I thought well let's let's get together and let's take the temperature of some other folks to see where we're at in the mid seasons.
02:15 --> 02:16 [SPEAKER_05]: So here we are.
02:17 --> 02:21 [SPEAKER_05]: Just real quick before we get into it, Ian what's happening on the captain's pod.
02:22 --> 02:26 [SPEAKER_03]: We're currently covering the new Star Trek show Starflea Academy.
02:26 --> 02:32 [SPEAKER_03]: It would be kind of weird if we weren't covering that considering it's the only Star Trek on TV right now.
02:32 --> 02:34 [SPEAKER_03]: through knows if we'll ever go to another movie.
02:35 --> 02:43 [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, we are we actually just did a midseason check in with you and we've got we've got two more episodes of that to cover now.
02:44 --> 02:54 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so I really enjoying that and then our next season is to be revealed but it's going to have a theme and it may possibly
02:54 --> 02:56 [SPEAKER_03]: be something about clinging arms.
02:57 --> 02:58 [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm just saying arms is your jam.
02:59 --> 03:01 [SPEAKER_03]: It's a good time to join joint captains point.
03:01 --> 03:04 [SPEAKER_05]: I do enjoy some clinging on jam with my butter biscuit.
03:04 --> 03:07 [SPEAKER_05]: No, you do not have to worry about jam.
03:07 --> 03:09 [SPEAKER_05]: All of those words will send you to the fair.
03:09 --> 03:11 [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, and they will.
03:12 --> 03:20 [SPEAKER_05]: But I would say that you and your fellow countrymen do have some similar puttings that that might make the clingsons rather happy.
03:20 --> 03:23 [SPEAKER_03]: But you're saying that terrible or incredible.
03:23 --> 03:27 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, I'm just saying like putting it in your breakfast, you know, you got to have your puts.
03:27 --> 03:29 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't think we have putting for breakfast.
03:29 --> 03:32 [SPEAKER_05]: No, no, but the what what blood sauce it like
03:32 --> 03:33 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, come on.
03:33 --> 03:34 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, the bike pudding.
03:34 --> 03:34 [SPEAKER_05]: Like the pudding.
03:34 --> 03:35 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
03:35 --> 03:36 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
03:36 --> 03:37 [SPEAKER_03]: To be fair, we use pudding.
03:37 --> 03:39 [SPEAKER_03]: Pudding could be used at every single meal.
03:39 --> 03:41 [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, the confusion is fabulous.
03:41 --> 03:42 [SPEAKER_03]: Like pudding is the one.
03:42 --> 03:44 [SPEAKER_03]: That is, that's the good stuff.
03:44 --> 03:45 [SPEAKER_03]: I might be too mild for the clients.
03:46 --> 03:46 [SPEAKER_03]: Probably.
03:46 --> 03:47 [SPEAKER_03]: Probably.
03:47 --> 03:49 [SPEAKER_04]: John, what's happening on June minute?
03:49 --> 03:51 [SPEAKER_04]: What is happening in the June minute world?
03:51 --> 03:59 [SPEAKER_04]: Well, David, you mentioned it earlier and he kind of stole my thunder, but we did aren't recently have you as a guest.
03:59 --> 03:59 [SPEAKER_04]: All right.
03:59 --> 04:06 [SPEAKER_04]: On our, I guess we'll call it an expanded, expanded, expanded.
04:06 --> 04:08 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, very expanded in that.
04:08 --> 04:11 [SPEAKER_04]: These are way more than just one minute of a movie we're talking about.
04:12 --> 04:22 [SPEAKER_04]: We're talking about the current, well, we're currently talking about the 2000 sci-fi channel mini series of Frank Herbert's doing.
04:22 --> 04:38 [SPEAKER_04]: we just wrapped episode two with you, which is book two of Dune, bu-a-dib, and then this coming month, we're planning on recording part three, which is the third book of the, the third, quote unquote book of the first book, the pro-right.
04:39 --> 04:46 [SPEAKER_04]: And then after that, we're carrying on right into the 2003 sci-fi channel, many series, Frank Herbert's Children of Dune,
04:46 --> 04:50 [SPEAKER_04]: which we'll cover Dune Messiah, not Part III, Messiah.
04:51 --> 04:56 [SPEAKER_04]: And then the children of Dune across two different episodes.
04:56 --> 04:58 [SPEAKER_04]: So we're really looking forward to that.
04:58 --> 05:11 [SPEAKER_04]: And then obviously later on at some point this year, I would imagine we're gonna get some news about the second season of Dune prophecy and we're excited to start talking about prophecy season two.
05:11 --> 05:20 [SPEAKER_04]: and then we're leading right into Dnieville News third entry into the Dune series in December.
05:20 --> 05:27 [SPEAKER_05]: So, and we should tell folks who maybe haven't heard your podcast before, why is it called the Dune Minute Podcast?
05:27 --> 05:31 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so we decided to take
05:31 --> 05:36 [SPEAKER_04]: about five and a half hours worth of movie and talk about it minute by minute.
05:37 --> 05:47 [SPEAKER_04]: So episode one of Dune Minute season one is time stamp zero minute zero seconds to one minute zero seconds and then it's that.
05:47 --> 05:48 [SPEAKER_04]: all the way down.
05:48 --> 06:10 [SPEAKER_04]: So we obviously have a lot to talk about the story, but then we go deep into not only the lore of the universe for the people that maybe just kind of experience the movies at that surface level, but then also some of the, you know, behind the scenes, the making of all of the technical bits that go into.
06:10 --> 06:19 [SPEAKER_05]: people in the books, you pull in the making of books and the behind-the-scenes information, the art and soul series of books are fantastic.
06:19 --> 06:33 [SPEAKER_04]: But we also talk about the Dune and Cyclopedia, which is the unofficial official Frank Herbert blessed it all the years ago, kind of projects, but it's not really his.
06:33 --> 06:35 [SPEAKER_04]: We do pull a lot from there as well.
06:36 --> 06:36 [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
06:36 --> 06:39 [SPEAKER_04]: Um, but yeah, that's that's the den minute in a nutshell.
06:40 --> 06:43 [SPEAKER_04]: And uh, there's a ton of content out there.
06:43 --> 06:49 [SPEAKER_04]: So if you, if you like, do or denival moves movies at all, uh, very strongly recommend checking it out.
06:49 --> 06:56 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, the discipline you guys have it just only talking about what's in that.
06:55 --> 07:12 [SPEAKER_05]: One minute slice is incredible and I've been on a couple of episodes and it's really hard because you got to just like zero in you're like, oh, but then there's a weird paradoxical thing you kind of like folding space Suddenly you're on the other side and there's a whole lot to talk about within just one minute.
07:12 --> 07:13 [SPEAKER_04]: It's unbelievable.
07:13 --> 07:29 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, we had you as a guest in season two and I remember having to cut you off mid sentences as Paul or still guards says some is saying something during the naming ceremony and it's like David, we've got to wait till the next episode of next episode.
07:29 --> 07:29 [SPEAKER_05]: It's a lot of fun.
07:30 --> 07:42 [SPEAKER_05]: So we'll put links in the show notes for both of those, both of you guys are podcasts and you're blue skies and all the things and then John, you can find John on our Discord, you bounce around there.
07:42 --> 07:46 [SPEAKER_05]: Ian, you can too, but then Ian and Nick, you guys have your own Discord as well.
07:47 --> 07:49 [SPEAKER_05]: We'll put links for all of that together.
07:50 --> 07:51 [SPEAKER_05]: So today, we don't really have an agenda.
07:51 --> 07:52 [SPEAKER_05]: We don't really have an outline.
07:52 --> 07:56 [SPEAKER_05]: We're just sort of wheeling and dealing.
07:57 --> 07:59 [SPEAKER_05]: And I kind of said, well, you know, pick three things.
07:59 --> 08:02 [SPEAKER_05]: I will kind of steal from Captain Spot a little bit here.
08:02 --> 08:04 [SPEAKER_05]: What you guys are doing Starfleet Academy.
08:04 --> 08:12 [SPEAKER_05]: And so we'll just sort of use that as a general framework to see where you're at or what you've got cooking.
08:12 --> 08:21 [SPEAKER_05]: So in what is one thing that has got you excited about this season of pit or season one if you want to even kick back that far.
08:21 --> 08:23 [SPEAKER_03]: Wouldn't it be wild if I just hated the pit?
08:24 --> 08:27 [SPEAKER_03]: I think it was just I'm not really thirsty in the world, but it doesn't like it.
08:27 --> 08:27 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it could be.
08:27 --> 08:31 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, you certainly didn't react that way when I was on the other side.
08:31 --> 08:32 [SPEAKER_03]: No, that is my agenda.
08:32 --> 08:35 [SPEAKER_03]: I just wanted to come on to put on everyone's pit party.
08:35 --> 08:37 [SPEAKER_03]: Now I love this show.
08:37 --> 08:39 [SPEAKER_03]: I was very late to the pit party.
08:40 --> 08:41 [SPEAKER_03]: I only caught season one.
08:41 --> 09:00 [SPEAKER_03]: In I think I watch the whole thing in November or December, I haven't even been raven about it and I'm going to do it now and then all of it was consumed and inside of my brain and about a day and a half because it's just this beautiful thing that you can just binge all in all in one.
09:00 --> 09:10 [SPEAKER_03]: But man, my first big thing, I'm going to zero in on a topic in season two.
09:11 --> 09:29 [SPEAKER_03]: because I feel like we're going to bounce about a few different places, but the thing that came just to the very top of my brain is the land another all into the tube and most of all, I'm enjoying the forgiveness and lack of forgiveness.
09:30 --> 09:34 [SPEAKER_03]: One of the things the pit does so well is be
09:34 --> 09:44 [SPEAKER_03]: There's always biases, but it really does try to show you a spectrum of, um, believe some perspectives like Dr. Um, Alicia Emees AI stuff.
09:45 --> 09:46 [SPEAKER_03]: It's not completely anti AI.
09:46 --> 09:47 [SPEAKER_03]: It does show the positives as well.
09:48 --> 09:50 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, but Langdon.
09:50 --> 10:08 [SPEAKER_03]: specifically not being forgiven by Robbie, who is our, like, just bastion of humanity and just are like our guiding light in the show and just the smartest man in the room, the most compassionate man in the room.
10:08 --> 10:21 [SPEAKER_03]: So when it's really clear that he doesn't want anything to do with Langdom and he doesn't want to be in the same room as him and I think it's in episode six or five.
10:21 --> 10:29 [SPEAKER_03]: They have the elevator chat where he bought a mind and says, I don't know if I want you in my yard like good for you, you're on the journey.
10:29 --> 10:30 [SPEAKER_03]: cool.
10:30 --> 10:32 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think I want you in my shop right now.
10:33 --> 10:52 [SPEAKER_03]: I just, that's a hard perspective to, to write and inclusion the show because you want to support the journey, you want to support like the coming out of the addiction and like there's enough hard stuff happening with people who
10:52 --> 10:56 [SPEAKER_03]: No, screw your journey like you hurt me and I don't want anything to do with you now.
10:57 --> 11:04 [SPEAKER_03]: I like that side of the equation being presented as well John, where are you with the robby?
11:04 --> 11:05 [SPEAKER_05]: This is not one of your three.
11:05 --> 11:06 [SPEAKER_05]: This is just a culture sure.
11:06 --> 11:12 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, what do you where how are you feeling about how Dr. Robby is is treating Langdon?
11:14 --> 11:20 [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, so I might get a little personal here, but I am
11:20 --> 11:23 [SPEAKER_05]: That's the crazy thing about you starting to just interject real quick.
11:23 --> 11:39 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, John and I started doing the show and then as we got deeper and deeper into it We keep running into stuff that is that we in in John my you know, Laura on John and my life Where we're like oh, I've dealt with that thing.
11:39 --> 11:50 [SPEAKER_05]: I've used a lawyer lift before John has gone through Palliative and and hospice care, you know recently like we keep things keep cropping up like oh crap
11:50 --> 11:53 [SPEAKER_05]: This is like real closely and personal here.
11:54 --> 12:08 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh yeah, yeah, everything from the pit is so real and so like this actually happens in everyone's life kind of thing and it's it's inevitable that something is going to touch into us individually in all of these millions of viewers who are watching it.
12:08 --> 12:09 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah.
12:09 --> 12:23 [SPEAKER_04]: And there's a part of the reason why I was so excited to talk about this episode, or the season, you know, in this kind of check-in, and everything is the show hits me in a few different ways.
12:24 --> 12:24 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
12:25 --> 12:27 [SPEAKER_04]: As I was going to say, I'm 14 years sober.
12:29 --> 12:33 [SPEAKER_04]: No, and I have experienced
12:33 --> 12:48 [SPEAKER_04]: you know, not having necessarily gone through a program like LinkedIn has or anything, but I have experienced that, you know, entire spectrum of either acceptance or go fuck yourself.
12:48 --> 12:50 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if this is a...
12:51 --> 12:58 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, no, you can, yeah, we're, we're adult, yeah, we're, we're going to be a rated E. We do not.
12:58 --> 13:05 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I've experienced that entire spectrum of forgiveness to go fuck yourself.
13:06 --> 13:10 [SPEAKER_04]: And I see a lot of obvious.
13:10 --> 13:27 [SPEAKER_04]: you know, similarities and everything between, you know, what I have experienced in my life and what lengthens characters going through in the whole coming back into, you know, what your life was and the trepidation behind it and everything.
13:27 --> 13:32 [SPEAKER_04]: So there's a lot of connection there that
13:32 --> 13:51 [SPEAKER_04]: You know, really makes me sympathize with him, you know, and made me sympathize with him through season one as well, because like, they definitely use Santos to be the person that you should be sympathizing with on season one, because it's like, why the fuck is there a guy working in the ER that has an addiction to benzos?
13:51 --> 13:52 [SPEAKER_04]: But at the end of the day, right?
13:53 --> 13:54 [SPEAKER_04]: Like, there are,
13:55 --> 14:01 [SPEAKER_04]: I know, personally, a lot of incredibly high-functioning addicts that you would never know.
14:02 --> 14:21 [SPEAKER_04]: So the fact that the show dives into the fact that there are those people that are out there that need the help, and then we're seeing this person having gotten the help, go back to their life, and then have to go through the whole social aspect
14:22 --> 14:29 [SPEAKER_04]: Hey, I'm back, but I know that this is weird and I need to, there are things I need to say and things I need to do.
14:29 --> 14:35 [SPEAKER_04]: And then having that spectrum of arms wide open to the door being slammed right in this face.
14:35 --> 14:50 [SPEAKER_04]: You know, to me, that's one of the things that really hits a lot this season and one of the things that I'm looking forward to seeing how they, you know, continue to address it because LinkedIn still has more people to talk to.
14:51 --> 14:53 [SPEAKER_04]: you know, so it's it's going to be interesting.
14:54 --> 14:55 [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't read this.
14:55 --> 14:58 [SPEAKER_05]: I saw a straight comment or a straight comment.
14:58 --> 15:04 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know the fire hose at my head of information is as it's too hard to remember sometimes where you heard things.
15:05 --> 15:15 [SPEAKER_05]: But that that part of what's going on is that Robby is feeling guilty because he feels that he should have done a better job in supporting Langdon.
15:15 --> 15:45 [SPEAKER_04]: And so what we're see part of what we're seeing, yes, there's the, you broke the trust, you, you professionally, you didn't really, you didn't just break the trust because because the thing is is like, Robbie is Langdon's mentor, the way that Robbie's mentor had, you know, passed and we got that whole backstory, right, I don't remember the name of the doctor during the home and everything, but yeah, and there's that whole, like,
15:45 --> 15:56 [SPEAKER_04]: how can Robbie, you know, be the person or can Robbie ever be the person that his mentor was and then the failure with Langdon that like really eats at him and everything.
15:56 --> 15:57 [SPEAKER_04]: So yeah.
15:58 --> 16:04 [SPEAKER_05]: And Dr. Robbie, you know, Rabbi, he's a, you know, he is like looking after people in this way.
16:04 --> 16:14 [SPEAKER_05]: And I think there's an interesting component to, yeah, you destroyed the trust and you did
16:14 --> 16:29 [SPEAKER_05]: And in fact, I think Robbie covered that up because John Lorown pointed this out to me, that if he actually had were, so Langnam must have self-reported, but nobody reported that he stole from the hospital.
16:29 --> 16:36 [SPEAKER_05]: Because if he stole from the hospital, he'd be in cuffs, because that's controlled substance blah, blah, blah, blah.
16:36 --> 16:38 [SPEAKER_05]: He would have been charged criminal.
16:38 --> 16:41 [SPEAKER_04]: lost his medical license, like all of it's gone.
16:41 --> 16:46 [SPEAKER_04]: So Robbie did take the, uh, the lighter route with him.
16:46 --> 16:46 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
16:47 --> 16:47 [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
16:48 --> 16:49 [SPEAKER_03]: So pretty intense.
16:49 --> 16:51 [SPEAKER_03]: And for the record, like I love the forgiveness.
16:52 --> 16:59 [SPEAKER_03]: I love that the show is 90% that and like really welcoming Langdon Bank.
17:00 --> 17:04 [SPEAKER_03]: It's just I, I love that the show does the full spectrum as well.
17:04 --> 17:07 [SPEAKER_03]: Because it kind of
17:07 --> 17:25 [SPEAKER_03]: feel what you're feeling as well like and if you're not in that position and you have been wronged like that it is okay to not forgive as well like it is okay to like honour what you're feeling and get there in your own time and that's just it's just this beautiful thing that the pit does like it just shows you examples of
17:25 --> 17:31 [SPEAKER_03]: probably everybody can see a bit of themselves in how each kind of to react to each situation.
17:31 --> 17:32 [SPEAKER_03]: It's like I can ground into this person.
17:32 --> 17:37 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and that's just, I mean, that's just the opposite of taking the easy route every time.
17:37 --> 17:48 [SPEAKER_05]: John, can I ask you a question question about recovery stuff in terms of, and I'm not sure, I don't know what your journey was or, you know, how it went.
17:48 --> 17:51 [SPEAKER_05]: But as I understand it,
17:51 --> 18:18 [SPEAKER_05]: in when people are doing some kind of step program, part of what you do is you go and you you know talk to people like Langdon is doing and you you acknowledge that you know that you caused harm and that you hurt people and you you know you apologize and you say I'm doing the things right you know you like you make new promises whatever all that stuff but I think if I understand
18:18 --> 18:22 [SPEAKER_05]: You get what you get when you tell that when you have that conversation with that person.
18:23 --> 18:26 [SPEAKER_05]: If they unload on you, you have to just accept that.
18:26 --> 18:30 [SPEAKER_05]: That's part of your job in recovery through the step program.
18:30 --> 18:32 [SPEAKER_05]: Like, you know, there's lots of different paths.
18:32 --> 18:39 [SPEAKER_05]: But part of it is if somebody's got a dump truck on you because of the pain that you cause them, you just got to take it.
18:40 --> 18:43 [SPEAKER_04]: So I did not go through any step program.
18:43 --> 18:54 [SPEAKER_04]: Um, so I, I don't want to speak as if I have or speak for the people that have gone through it are going through it, uh, and, you know, will go through it.
18:54 --> 18:55 [SPEAKER_04]: That's not my place to do so.
18:56 --> 18:56 [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
18:56 --> 19:09 [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, I can speak from my own personal experiences and, and what I did to kind of, um, you know,
19:10 --> 19:24 [SPEAKER_04]: to that point, you do hit on the nail and head so to speak with the fact that you can, or at least I have in my, you know,
19:25 --> 19:40 [SPEAKER_04]: journey had those rough conversations with people and there have been times where it's just like, yeah, it's both barrels completely unloaded like, and you just, you got to sit there and take it because what can you say, right?
19:40 --> 19:41 [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
19:42 --> 19:43 [SPEAKER_04]: You do a lot of things.
19:43 --> 19:48 [SPEAKER_04]: You say a lot of things when you are
19:48 --> 19:49 [SPEAKER_04]: I did a lot of things.
19:49 --> 20:01 [SPEAKER_04]: I said a lot of things when I was not sober, that definitely hurt some people in rubbed people the wrong way and hurt friendships and trusts and everything like that.
20:02 --> 20:14 [SPEAKER_04]: When I was going through everything, through discussing with people after a few years of really getting
20:14 --> 20:20 [SPEAKER_04]: my life and everything in our control, it was, it was a lot of,
20:21 --> 20:30 [SPEAKER_04]: You know, letting people add it if that's what they need to, you know, feel better and, you know, we can start, you know, mending friendships of relationships.
20:30 --> 20:32 [SPEAKER_04]: Like, yeah, by all means, some great.
20:32 --> 20:33 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, I appreciate you.
20:33 --> 20:36 [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't realize that we were going to just train to this guy.
20:36 --> 20:37 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we're getting real serious.
20:37 --> 20:47 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
20:48 --> 20:56 [SPEAKER_05]: I appreciate you being authentic about that and being willing to share with that because it's important.
20:56 --> 21:02 [SPEAKER_05]: People need to know that there's pathways out and that there are change and that we can grow.
21:02 --> 21:03 [SPEAKER_04]: There are pathways out.
21:04 --> 21:13 [SPEAKER_04]: There are always people that will love you and support you and the friends and your life are the most important thing.
21:14 --> 21:17 [SPEAKER_04]: You know, not to like throw him out there.
21:17 --> 21:29 [SPEAKER_04]: But Zach on the Dune Minute, my other half there, literally has been the most supportive person for me in my entire life and also frankly, I would not be here if it were not for him.
21:29 --> 21:30 [SPEAKER_04]: So, uh,
21:30 --> 21:44 [SPEAKER_04]: also to plug the doom in it, but also like seriously like genuinely he is one of the most important people in my life and you know one of my best friends that has helped me go through everything that I have gone through.
21:44 --> 21:53 [SPEAKER_04]: And thankfully was one of the people that was you know very open-armed
21:54 --> 22:01 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, okay, on that note, let's go to your number one as we sort of track through that.
22:02 --> 22:03 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm curious though, too.
22:03 --> 22:07 [SPEAKER_05]: Just your quick background like, how did you get connected to the pit when you start watching?
22:08 --> 22:09 [SPEAKER_05]: Did you?
22:09 --> 22:10 [SPEAKER_04]: I got connected to the pit.
22:10 --> 22:11 [SPEAKER_04]: I can tell you exactly.
22:12 --> 22:32 [SPEAKER_04]: I got connected to the pit back when I still had, you know, a lot of social media because I've made the choice to, you know, get off of everything except for blue sky amazing obviously for the podcast, but then for For discord just because I play a lot of video games and you you have to, you know,
22:32 --> 22:33 [SPEAKER_04]: be in touch with your friends.
22:34 --> 22:59 [SPEAKER_04]: But I had a TikTok account and I saw the video of Dr. King taking her moment to step out and, you know, recite the song that I'm going to like butcher completely but just like to have her moment, you know, of of piece and season one where she needed to like
23:00 --> 23:05 [SPEAKER_04]: as a fellow neurodivergent, I felt that I understood entirely.
23:05 --> 23:09 [SPEAKER_04]: And then I was like, okay, I've heard people talking about this show, let's, you know, dive in.
23:09 --> 23:11 [SPEAKER_04]: So I think I dove in about
23:13 --> 23:31 [SPEAKER_04]: season one episode 12 for so, so like near the tail end of it, I was able to binge and then had to wait those last like three episodes, and those last three weeks, no more suck having to wait.
23:31 --> 23:38 [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, it was, it was because of a TikTok video that I, that I, you know, we ain't actually getting first saw something and, and Dr. King.
23:38 --> 23:40 [SPEAKER_04]: And then I was like, okay, yeah, amazing.
23:40 --> 23:45 [SPEAKER_04]: If there's like a good representation of neurodivergent people, like, I'm in for it.
23:45 --> 23:45 [SPEAKER_05]: You know, right.
23:46 --> 23:46 [SPEAKER_05]: Right.
23:46 --> 23:53 [SPEAKER_05]: So what is your number one or not number one, but like what's one thing that you're, you're getting pulled in by the show?
23:56 --> 23:59 [SPEAKER_04]: It is, well, aside from everything that we talked about.
24:00 --> 24:01 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah, yeah.
24:01 --> 24:02 [SPEAKER_05]: We're doing all of that.
24:03 --> 24:06 [SPEAKER_04]: But it is just the variety and characters.
24:06 --> 24:09 [SPEAKER_04]: Like the character writing is so good.
24:09 --> 24:12 [SPEAKER_04]: Everyone has something important.
24:12 --> 24:16 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't feel like there's ever any like filler characters.
24:16 --> 24:20 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I just see this person in the background and they're just like consistently there.
24:22 --> 24:26 [SPEAKER_04]: You know, everyone has something important that's going on.
24:26 --> 24:36 [SPEAKER_04]: Um, but to me, it's the relationship dynamic between all of the newbies from season one.
24:36 --> 24:51 [SPEAKER_04]: You know, when you had Whittaker and Santos and King and Javadi all like trying to figure out who they are then, and then seeing them now, like especially
24:51 --> 25:19 [SPEAKER_04]: I think episode one of the season really nails it in terms of, like, how much Whittaker has grown since we saw him on his first day in the first epic or in season one until where we see him at the end of episode one in season two where he is sitting with the newbies and telling them, hey, when we have a chance, we take a moment to reflect when someone passes to respect their humanity and to see that, like, full circle come in, which isn't like,
25:19 --> 25:21 [SPEAKER_04]: the most.
25:21 --> 25:27 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh my god, this is revolutionary writing kind of thing, but it's something that like the show.
25:28 --> 25:41 [SPEAKER_04]: It does a really good job of helping you see where these characters are developing and growing over an episode, over a season, over a season, over multiple seasons.
25:42 --> 25:52 [SPEAKER_04]: So I just love a lot of the interplay between the different characters, especially with Dana events.
25:53 --> 25:59 [SPEAKER_05]: We're going to get back to Dina in a minute for sure because we have a little challenge on the table.
26:02 --> 26:04 [SPEAKER_05]: But first let's take a little break.
26:12 --> 26:13 [SPEAKER_05]: And we're back.
26:13 --> 26:15 [SPEAKER_05]: Ian, what are your thoughts on the writing?
26:16 --> 26:20 [SPEAKER_05]: Because you do as a, you're professional in a writing sphere.
26:21 --> 26:24 [SPEAKER_03]: So I call you a, yeah, we are, does it mean you're to call you a writer?
26:24 --> 26:26 [SPEAKER_03]: It sounds weird when you say professional.
26:27 --> 26:28 [SPEAKER_03]: I, yeah, I do get paid to write words.
26:29 --> 26:31 [SPEAKER_03]: So I guess, yeah, that's what that is.
26:31 --> 26:31 [SPEAKER_03]: But that's weird.
26:32 --> 26:36 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, yeah, that's not in the way that you get paid to write words.
26:36 --> 26:39 [SPEAKER_04]: The words I write are very like different.
26:39 --> 26:44 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, not in the way the people get paid to write words, like they are their poetry.
26:44 --> 27:04 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it is, man, it is one of the, of course, I'm going to reference Star Trek, but one of the beautiful things about any late season of Star Trek, like when you get to like season 6 season 7, it's how much everybody knows each other and how comfortable every single character is with each other.
27:04 --> 27:09 [SPEAKER_03]: And I could well believe that some episodes like unscripted, they just know what their person would say in this moment.
27:10 --> 27:17 [SPEAKER_03]: Somehow, the pit did that with season one episode one, like everybody I believe has had seven years together.
27:17 --> 27:28 [SPEAKER_03]: Like I've never seen ER, but I could have well believed that no wild character, like this was just a continuation of ER and all of the characters
27:28 --> 27:48 [SPEAKER_03]: been on a show together that I'd completely missed and this was a spin off and I don't know how you do that like to to have everybody feel so authentic and to have this feel like you're watching a documentary where you really, especially in season one, you really have to pinch yourself a couple of times and just like is this?
27:48 --> 27:48 [SPEAKER_03]: No, no.
27:48 --> 27:51 [SPEAKER_03]: It's not a documentary, but it really could be.
27:51 --> 27:58 [SPEAKER_03]: And there is just an authenticity to how everybody reacts to each other, nosey, each other.
27:58 --> 28:02 [SPEAKER_03]: It is the definition of lightning in the bottle, because you've got to write that.
28:02 --> 28:05 [SPEAKER_03]: You've also got to find the people that can deliver that as well.
28:05 --> 28:08 [SPEAKER_03]: And that I don't actually want any of those jobs.
28:08 --> 28:12 [SPEAKER_03]: I just want to sit back and watch it and
28:12 --> 28:19 [SPEAKER_03]: It feels like it could go so wrong, so quick, and I love that season 2 is continuing that, and it wasn't just a fashion app.
28:19 --> 28:22 [SPEAKER_03]: It was, they have a formula here.
28:22 --> 28:28 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, can you imagine finding a fresh way to do a medical procedural way?
28:28 --> 28:31 [SPEAKER_03]: It's, how do you reinvent that?
28:31 --> 28:33 [SPEAKER_03]: And they basically, they're basically having it.
28:33 --> 28:34 [SPEAKER_03]: It's incredible.
28:34 --> 28:51 [SPEAKER_05]: the at the end of last episode relative to and recording this I should be episode eight I think I noticed that there's a whole chunk of time and as I go and I know that there's the next on and I don't want to watch those because I want to I don't want to be spoiled
28:51 --> 28:59 [SPEAKER_05]: And for whatever reason, I kind of scrubbed ahead and I was like, oh, there's a whole behind the scenes things, very normal thing to to tack on the end of an episode.
29:00 --> 29:00 [SPEAKER_05]: So I watched it.
29:01 --> 29:07 [SPEAKER_05]: I was like, holy shit, they built that ER purpose for, you know, that is a purpose built set.
29:07 --> 29:09 [SPEAKER_05]: But the thing that blew me away.
29:09 --> 29:20 [SPEAKER_05]: was all the various camera operators and assistant directors and scripties and set deck folks.
29:20 --> 29:22 [SPEAKER_05]: Everybody's in scrubs.
29:23 --> 29:26 [SPEAKER_05]: All of the crew are in the scrub.
29:26 --> 29:31 [SPEAKER_04]: You can tell who's the background actor, who is a gaffer, whatever that's running across.
29:31 --> 29:34 [SPEAKER_05]: And they're just flowing in writing.
29:34 --> 29:38 [SPEAKER_05]: Just like, oh, we're going to get this IV thing over this prop for this next scene.
29:38 --> 29:42 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, as you see somebody going by, that could be somebody from the deck, right?
29:42 --> 29:45 [SPEAKER_03]: That's just how it happens in the, we're going to move this over here.
29:45 --> 29:54 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, why is the show in the role in the writing, and like you said, this character familiarity that all these characters have this in play, it's pretty incredible.
29:54 --> 29:55 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
29:55 --> 29:57 [SPEAKER_05]: What's a number two for you?
29:57 --> 30:01 [SPEAKER_03]: And well, if you don't kind of stole my thunder, but I'll try to be too mad about it.
30:01 --> 30:02 [SPEAKER_03]: You take your fist.
30:02 --> 30:04 [SPEAKER_04]: We're stealing everyone's thunder over here, baby.
30:05 --> 30:08 [SPEAKER_03]: And I, I love doing character studies.
30:08 --> 30:16 [SPEAKER_03]: I love really zeroing in on characters and Whittaker in particular has just been.
30:16 --> 30:24 [SPEAKER_03]: a super satisfying arc for me and maybe it's a little bit too like fairy tales story bookish.
30:25 --> 30:30 [SPEAKER_03]: But it's just really, really satisfying so far to see season one.
30:30 --> 30:34 [SPEAKER_03]: He is so deliberately the person that is literally pooped and pissed on.
30:34 --> 30:45 [SPEAKER_03]: Like I think he tallies up every single bodily fluid
30:45 --> 30:49 [SPEAKER_03]: Everything that can go wrong to him even personally, it does go wrong.
30:49 --> 30:52 [SPEAKER_03]: So I was like, is this going to be the thing?
30:52 --> 30:55 [SPEAKER_03]: Is he just going to be the guy in season two as well?
30:55 --> 30:57 [SPEAKER_03]: Where like the stuff just keeps happening?
30:58 --> 31:07 [SPEAKER_03]: I could not be more shocked and happy to see his growth and how in the intervening period of time, which is like a year, nine months.
31:08 --> 31:11 [SPEAKER_03]: I forget the time it's six to nine months.
31:11 --> 31:12 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's very close to real time.
31:13 --> 31:24 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think, but it is so cool to see how little Robbie interacts with him because that says so much like, yeah, that's a great little character beat, isn't it?
31:24 --> 31:26 [SPEAKER_03]: Throughout the season, he'll poke his head in.
31:27 --> 31:28 [SPEAKER_03]: Not needed, I'll leave.
31:28 --> 31:52 [SPEAKER_03]: the amount of double fist bumps no one else has got a double fist bump fist bump from Robbie it is just Whittaker and like you said with him doing the speech where he gathers everybody around Robbie nips in Whittaker doesn't even see him nods and leaves that pride I mean it's why Robbie is so incredible as well because that pride of
31:52 --> 32:15 [SPEAKER_03]: of him being proud means so so much and it's just it's a character art that you could forget about because it's not it's not necessarily dramatic it's not he's not doing anything really spicy he's just doing his job really well and I enjoy seeing people until they do their job really really really well but he's not the main character
32:15 --> 32:16 [SPEAKER_03]: doing his job really well.
32:16 --> 32:22 [SPEAKER_03]: He's one of the side people that you could really mess with and really like put him through the ringer.
32:23 --> 32:25 [SPEAKER_03]: But every time we cut back to him, he's nailing it.
32:26 --> 32:29 [SPEAKER_03]: He's helping the newbies that are in there this season.
32:29 --> 32:33 [SPEAKER_03]: He isn't being like outshined by them either.
32:33 --> 32:35 [SPEAKER_03]: He is being really, really measured.
32:35 --> 32:39 [SPEAKER_03]: I just can't wait to see where he goes next and how that continues as well.
32:39 --> 32:43 [SPEAKER_03]: I just, he, in season one, he was a little bit of a hard character.
32:44 --> 32:47 [SPEAKER_03]: In season two, I just, I love watching him do his thing now.
32:47 --> 32:52 [SPEAKER_04]: And I like just going to be a rural doctor living out on his father's day.
32:52 --> 32:54 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm on the phone with this.
32:54 --> 32:55 [SPEAKER_03]: He's going to switch over to the special areas.
32:55 --> 32:56 [SPEAKER_04]: Why exactly?
32:56 --> 32:58 [SPEAKER_03]: Ballets have gone on.
32:58 --> 32:59 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I'm going to call it.
32:59 --> 33:02 [SPEAKER_03]: He's going to adopt the baby and bring the baby
33:02 --> 33:05 [SPEAKER_03]: It's going that way, isn't it?
33:06 --> 33:10 [SPEAKER_05]: But I like what you say, though, kind of the way to cursing me is negative space, right?
33:10 --> 33:16 [SPEAKER_05]: When you, the first time you see the FedEx logo as the arrow and the FedEx logo, you're like, holy shit, it was there at the whole time.
33:17 --> 33:18 [SPEAKER_05]: And then you can't not see it anymore, right?
33:19 --> 33:23 [SPEAKER_05]: But there's a win to use.
33:23 --> 33:36 [SPEAKER_05]: negative space in writing, that the absence tells you as much as the saying explicitly something and one of the things that I know drives us all crazy is the over-the-top exposition.
33:36 --> 33:38 [SPEAKER_05]: Hello, Long lost brother.
33:38 --> 33:40 [SPEAKER_05]: I haven't seen you in six months.
33:40 --> 33:41 [SPEAKER_05]: How are mom and dad?
33:41 --> 33:42 [SPEAKER_05]: You know, like time?
33:42 --> 33:44 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's like, oh painful.
33:45 --> 33:59 [SPEAKER_05]: given you two to do so, but they're using the negative space of Robbie, not interacting with him, but showing us his competence as the growth and the mentorship that Robbie has been putting into him all of this time.
33:59 --> 34:00 [SPEAKER_05]: It's like...
34:00 --> 34:01 [SPEAKER_05]: it's pretty awesome.
34:01 --> 34:02 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and really is.
34:02 --> 34:04 [SPEAKER_03]: It's a hard trick to pull off.
34:05 --> 34:19 [SPEAKER_03]: It could be easily forgotten, or easily just not done at all, but it appeals to a bit of me that a lot of shows don't appeal to, because there always has to be like friction or drama, and Whittico is just frictionless.
34:19 --> 34:24 [SPEAKER_03]: Like even when Santos is mad at him for something, she has no right to be mad at him about.
34:24 --> 34:27 [SPEAKER_03]: He's apologizing to him, but like, did I, did I mess up what did I do?
34:27 --> 34:31 [SPEAKER_03]: Right, he is just, yeah, he's completely frictionless with pretty much everyone.
34:32 --> 34:36 [SPEAKER_05]: John, what's a second thing that is of interest for you?
34:37 --> 35:00 [SPEAKER_04]: Second thing of interest for me, which is actually an unfortunate thing because we're not getting any more spoilers, there is someone in my life that is very close to me that is going through a lot of the same liver struggles and everything that Louie is going through.
35:00 --> 35:01 [SPEAKER_04]: spoilers.
35:02 --> 35:06 [SPEAKER_04]: And yeah, if you're, you know, we should have said go gone spoilers earlier.
35:06 --> 35:07 [SPEAKER_05]: Wait a long time ago.
35:07 --> 35:08 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's assumed.
35:08 --> 35:22 [SPEAKER_04]: I would assume if you're limited to a mint season check and you're probably, yeah, you know, I know people that are going through some of those, you know, similar struggles and everything.
35:22 --> 35:30 [SPEAKER_04]: They're not as progressed, but they're definitely, you know, kind of going through that and everything being affected by
35:30 --> 35:48 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and, and, you know, seeing that is one of those moments like we talked about with hospice and palliative care where it's like, oh shit, like, yeah, other people are going to this, but also like it's good that we're seeing some stuff like this on, on these shows.
35:49 --> 35:52 [SPEAKER_04]: And we're seeing, you know, these, um,
35:52 --> 36:03 [SPEAKER_04]: you know, patients with autoimmune deficiencies and we're seeing patients with in season one, they talk about sickle selenemia for instance.
36:03 --> 36:05 [SPEAKER_04]: And like these things that don't get talked about.
36:05 --> 36:13 [SPEAKER_05]: How hard it is for anyone with any kind of, you know, sight or sound disability to just get basic care that the rest of us take for granted.
36:14 --> 36:19 [SPEAKER_04]: And then this season also showing that like hospitals are
36:18 --> 36:42 [SPEAKER_04]: you know, more and more, not receiving the attention that they need in terms of the resources, where we have the interpreter that we had to go because they're getting pulled to eight million different directions, and then we try and do the TV interpreter thing, and that doesn't work, and then, you know, where we have a deaf person who is now trying to
36:42 --> 37:02 [SPEAKER_04]: you know, communicate with someone that doesn't understand ASL or like barely knows ASL and then we finally eight hours into the shift have someone that is like actually, you know, able to interpret in person in real time and everything.
37:04 --> 37:09 [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, seeing going back to Louis real quick, seeing someone, you know,
37:10 --> 37:21 [SPEAKER_04]: having to go through all of that on a show that's as popular as this is one of those, you know, really, you know, drawing in things for me.
37:21 --> 37:23 [SPEAKER_04]: because everyone thinks, oh, it's a hospital show.
37:23 --> 37:28 [SPEAKER_04]: It's all just going to be heart attacks and gunshot wounds and like, you know, we must see your doctor.
37:28 --> 37:30 [SPEAKER_05]: We must swear, jaw, doctor.
37:30 --> 37:30 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
37:30 --> 37:31 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
37:31 --> 37:43 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a,
37:44 --> 37:47 [SPEAKER_05]: That's one of the things that caught me when I started watching season one.
37:47 --> 37:55 [SPEAKER_05]: I forget where I dropped in probably episode like four or five somewhere early on in the first third-ish.
37:55 --> 38:21 [SPEAKER_05]: And I was like, ah, this is an ER reboot for no while these career blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
38:23 --> 38:41 [SPEAKER_05]: It without being fingerwaggy, it's being instructive, it's not being preachy or moral, but it's laying out for us the real circumstances of American health care delivery, right?
38:41 --> 38:51 [SPEAKER_05]: We can get some amazing outcomes, we have some amazing technology, we have some amazingly trained doctors and nursing staff and people who can literally pull off
38:51 --> 38:52 [SPEAKER_05]: miracles.
38:53 --> 39:05 [SPEAKER_05]: And yet, you know, a guy who has, who's in a diabetic crisis, you know, he's like, I got to get out of here because you guys are going to bankrupt me for the rest of my life.
39:05 --> 39:06 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
39:06 --> 39:06 [SPEAKER_05]: Right.
39:06 --> 39:12 [SPEAKER_04]: And it's not being preachy after we then learned that he's already over a thousand and the whole.
39:12 --> 39:12 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
39:12 --> 39:12 [SPEAKER_05]: Exactly.
39:13 --> 39:16 [SPEAKER_05]: So it's never being preachy, but it's laying out very real.
39:16 --> 39:18 [SPEAKER_05]: And these, as I understand it,
39:19 --> 39:34 [SPEAKER_05]: These are all real stories that have been sort of fitted into the puzzle piece of the show, but the inspiration for all of these characters that we meet as patients and the things that they're dealing with are actually taken from real cases.
39:36 --> 39:39 [SPEAKER_05]: And that they're, you know, they're looking into medical records on this, I go, okay, we're going to use it, whatever.
39:40 --> 39:45 [SPEAKER_05]: But it's just the instructive quality of the show is so incredible.
39:45 --> 39:47 [SPEAKER_03]: it's not often offering solutions either.
39:47 --> 39:52 [SPEAKER_03]: It really is just presenting and saying, like, could we do something about this?
39:52 --> 39:58 [SPEAKER_03]: Please, it's visibility of what they have to go through and what what the obstacles are.
39:59 --> 39:59 [SPEAKER_03]: Great.
40:00 --> 40:03 [SPEAKER_03]: Ian, what's the number three for you?
40:03 --> 40:06 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, it's going to be mildly backhanded.
40:07 --> 40:07 [SPEAKER_03]: It is going to be Robbie.
40:08 --> 40:14 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, but it's going to be an issue that I have with season two, but it's going to be my vessel for talking about how much I love.
40:15 --> 40:17 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, Dr. Robbie Rubinovic.
40:17 --> 40:24 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, my my negative is that I and I don't know how they were to do it much like the pit.
40:25 --> 40:26 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not here to offer solutions.
40:26 --> 40:33 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm here to just present things as they are.
40:33 --> 40:37 [SPEAKER_03]: Miss His anxiety from season one.
40:38 --> 40:48 [SPEAKER_03]: I like if there is one thing that like I hyper related to it was that the wall was closing in Exiety I'll be fine.
40:48 --> 40:51 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm fine until I'm not fine
40:51 --> 40:54 [SPEAKER_03]: moments that we had with him throughout season one.
40:55 --> 41:04 [SPEAKER_03]: And of course, the literally award winning breakdown that he has in the, in the penultimate episode, beautiful that Wettaker is the one that comes to him.
41:04 --> 41:07 [SPEAKER_03]: I think that speaks to a lot of.
41:07 --> 41:09 [SPEAKER_03]: their relationship in season two as well.
41:09 --> 41:11 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, and Whitaker as the new Lankton, right?
41:11 --> 41:19 [SPEAKER_05]: And that's something we talked about when we were talking about Lankton, is that, you know, Robbie is wise he asking about Whitaker's personal life.
41:20 --> 41:21 [SPEAKER_05]: Why is he checking all these things?
41:21 --> 41:33 [SPEAKER_05]: He really sees that missing, he really wants to be able to pass down and instruct a junior to sort of take his place.
41:33 --> 41:37 [SPEAKER_05]: And he's picked Whittaker, I think, for this because Blangton is not picked.
41:37 --> 41:40 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I don't think Whistaker has picked himself.
41:40 --> 41:45 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, he has, like, he's picked up because he's focused on the job.
41:45 --> 41:46 [SPEAKER_03]: Not because he's trying to be picked.
41:47 --> 41:47 [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
41:47 --> 41:48 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's it.
41:49 --> 41:50 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, my god.
41:50 --> 41:55 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, heaven help us if Whistaker ends up doing anything wrong to break promise for, I know.
41:55 --> 41:55 [SPEAKER_03]: Don't you do?
41:55 --> 41:57 [SPEAKER_04]: I will be, I will be, I will never stay.
41:57 --> 41:58 [SPEAKER_03]: I believe.
41:59 --> 42:00 [SPEAKER_04]: Don't, don't put that out there.
42:00 --> 42:04 [SPEAKER_03]: If it's in season three, I'll just pretend season three doesn't exist and just watch one and two again.
42:04 --> 42:05 [SPEAKER_03]: That's fine.
42:05 --> 42:07 [SPEAKER_04]: It's like that scrub's only has five seasons.
42:07 --> 42:07 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's it.
42:07 --> 42:08 [SPEAKER_03]: Why would you bring that up?
42:09 --> 42:10 [SPEAKER_03]: Because it does only have five seasons.
42:12 --> 42:14 [SPEAKER_05]: But what I what I love.
42:14 --> 42:15 [SPEAKER_05]: Did we just get a new season of scrub starting?
42:16 --> 42:17 [SPEAKER_03]: No, I don't think so.
42:19 --> 42:20 [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, scrub scubs is back on air.
42:20 --> 42:22 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm being deliberately facetious.
42:22 --> 42:24 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, okay.
42:24 --> 42:25 [SPEAKER_03]: It still doesn't exist.
42:25 --> 42:26 [SPEAKER_03]: Gotcha.
42:27 --> 42:32 [SPEAKER_03]: But now I love everything to like every time we do
42:32 --> 42:33 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, buddy.
42:33 --> 42:34 [SPEAKER_03]: I know you're not okay.
42:35 --> 42:53 [SPEAKER_03]: I am missing that in season two like he's doing great stuff now, but that underlying when is he going to pop when is the the next thing going to happen like it's taken away a little bit of the urgency a little bit of the the unpredictability of
42:54 --> 43:04 [SPEAKER_03]: him being able to do his job while experiencing the worst day of the year for him and the first time that he's been on the job like and that is I don't think you have to replicate that.
43:05 --> 43:07 [SPEAKER_03]: But it is something that I'm missing.
43:07 --> 43:10 [SPEAKER_03]: But the main thing is that I just love no while.
43:10 --> 43:11 [SPEAKER_03]: I love what he's doing.
43:11 --> 43:15 [SPEAKER_03]: I love how he is Dr. House, but a human being.
43:15 --> 43:18 [SPEAKER_03]: He is just an
43:18 --> 43:21 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know though, I seem full of this.
43:21 --> 43:23 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, John, do you want to be ever seen falling skies?
43:23 --> 43:24 [SPEAKER_05]: I have not.
43:24 --> 43:27 [SPEAKER_05]: Wow, wow, what a series.
43:28 --> 43:36 [SPEAKER_05]: It's a real corker, it's a alien invasion story and no while he's sort of being hero character.
43:36 --> 43:38 [SPEAKER_05]: It jumps the shark.
43:38 --> 43:40 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, fair enough.
43:40 --> 43:43 [SPEAKER_05]: It jumps the shark pretty bad in later seasons.
43:43 --> 43:47 [SPEAKER_05]: So anyway, I watched all of it.
43:47 --> 43:49 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I'm admitting to that.
43:49 --> 43:52 [SPEAKER_03]: So, uh, to my list to not watch.
43:52 --> 43:53 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes exactly.
43:54 --> 43:56 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, he is really, really incredible.
43:56 --> 44:10 [SPEAKER_03]: I've got a buddy who watches an incredible amount of content and uh, something he once said to me that kind of zeros in on why he loves certain characters and that he just really enjoys smart people doing smart stuff smartly.
44:10 --> 44:18 [SPEAKER_03]: And that's like watching competent characters do things competently and do things well, can be its own reward.
44:18 --> 44:27 [SPEAKER_03]: Like when he steps in and like Jerry Riggs a cube to act as a lung, by way of a stable gun, it's just like incredible.
44:27 --> 44:30 [SPEAKER_03]: And he just like amazed everybody in the room.
44:30 --> 44:32 [SPEAKER_03]: It's just, yeah, just migovering the human body.
44:32 --> 44:36 [SPEAKER_03]: And in him paired with Dr. Robert who is like,
44:36 --> 44:41 [SPEAKER_03]: even further down the crazy train of like how we do things on the fly.
44:42 --> 44:55 [SPEAKER_04]: Well, yeah, I have to probably check with Jack Abbott, like he's pulling from a like we know his history as a combat medic and everything and you want to talk about having to, you know, be McGyver.
44:55 --> 44:58 [SPEAKER_04]: That is the ultimate McGyver and everything.
44:58 --> 45:15 [SPEAKER_04]: And we get a little McGiver as well from Giovanni as well during season one where I guess they run that I don't know what the actual like material devices that they run out of, but she basically is just like, I just put these together and we'll make it work during.
45:15 --> 45:15 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, right.
45:15 --> 45:16 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, during the past.
45:17 --> 45:20 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, during the Pifesta fall out and everything.
45:21 --> 45:31 [SPEAKER_05]: John, you had some, didn't you have some thoughts about Robbie in general, did, did you say you were, I just think he's a beautiful man, right?
45:32 --> 45:36 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I just, I just, yeah, we know what, no, Wiley has aged beautifully.
45:36 --> 45:38 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's all I have to say about that.
45:38 --> 45:41 [SPEAKER_05]: And when Dr. Robby's,
45:41 --> 45:43 [SPEAKER_05]: attention falls on you.
45:43 --> 45:53 [SPEAKER_05]: It's like sunlight, you know, on a beautiful day and you're just like, oh, and you can bask in it and it makes you grow and you feel, well, unless you're laying them.
45:54 --> 46:06 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, then what I was going to say is that when you fall out of the sunlight and endage, it's like being on the other side of the moon, it's cold and lifeless and inhospitable.
46:06 --> 46:10 [SPEAKER_05]: And you wonder, like, is that good leadership, is that good mentorship?
46:10 --> 46:15 [SPEAKER_05]: Is that, you know, that's a little bit volatile in terms of
46:15 --> 46:20 [SPEAKER_05]: looking after their wholeness of the people that you're trying to teach in the teaching hospital.
46:20 --> 46:32 [SPEAKER_03]: I would argue it's selective about the people, like he has a set amount of energy, hours, hours in the day minutes in the hour and where he puts it is crucial.
46:32 --> 46:38 [SPEAKER_03]: And I think that's putting a bit of selfish self-value on his expertise in time.
46:38 --> 46:45 [SPEAKER_03]: And you can make a judgment call
46:45 --> 46:47 [SPEAKER_03]: precious energy goes before he departs.
46:47 --> 46:50 [SPEAKER_03]: Right, for a few months.
46:50 --> 46:52 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's true on many fronts.
46:53 --> 46:57 [SPEAKER_05]: John, did you have more on Robbie or did you want to jump into a number three?
46:58 --> 47:03 [SPEAKER_04]: I was going to jump into my number three and I want to talk shit.
47:04 --> 47:05 [SPEAKER_04]: That's gone.
47:05 --> 47:08 [SPEAKER_04]: Ogle Vipiss is me off so much.
47:08 --> 47:08 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
47:08 --> 47:11 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to fight your John about our honor last episode.
47:12 --> 47:17 [SPEAKER_04]: I listen to it last night, but Ogle Vipiss is me off so much.
47:18 --> 47:19 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm supposed to.
47:19 --> 47:19 [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
47:19 --> 47:21 [SPEAKER_04]: Like he's written that way.
47:21 --> 47:32 [SPEAKER_04]: Well, he pisses me off because I was also, you know, all of us have also been, you know, 21, 22 year old men that think you're hot shit and you know everything and you have to Well, actually.
47:32 --> 47:34 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
47:34 --> 47:57 [SPEAKER_04]: I have to like know everything to impress everyone and it's just like This is a part of me that I have killed off in it and that doesn't exist anymore, but I'm now having to like face that I was this and it's just like The show is very affecting you Yes I do I do love how just like
47:57 --> 48:20 [SPEAKER_04]: immediately and very quickly though, like everyone is there to just like knock him down on the, you know, on a few pegs because he deserves to be for being an asshole, especially in our latest episode where he's just like,
48:20 --> 48:43 [SPEAKER_03]: what the fuck yeah let let's cure the thing that's hurting him right now instead of laying out his fitness plan for the next five years actually what he likes immediately skips to yeah it's like cut and he noticed all his diagnoses jump to the most of the dream possible thing yeah instead of the horse yeah yeah and and
48:43 --> 49:01 [SPEAKER_04]: like that's what I do for myself and I'm like why is my left leg really you know like hurting or whatever forgetting the fact that I just bump the shit out of my knee a couple of hours ago but it's like my left legs you know exploding I'm gonna die and be honest.
49:02 --> 49:17 [SPEAKER_05]: But now fair enough, Olga Vee is obtuse and, you know, he has the tall white male privilege of his gender and of his race.
49:17 --> 49:32 [SPEAKER_05]: Um, and very smart and he's worked hard and he's memorized all the things and whatever, but then we have joy who we started off everybody was like WTF with with her like we were like why is she being she was rude.
49:32 --> 49:34 [SPEAKER_05]: She dropped a couple of rude comments at time.
49:34 --> 49:40 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, there was the one where they had to do the pilot flip with the lung and everything and she's like, why are we doing this?
49:40 --> 49:40 [SPEAKER_04]: He's already dead.
49:41 --> 49:41 [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
49:41 --> 49:42 [SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.
49:42 --> 49:43 [SPEAKER_04]: So like, no, I get that too.
49:44 --> 49:51 [SPEAKER_04]: It's just I see a much younger version of myself needing to be this.
49:51 --> 49:53 [SPEAKER_04]: No, it all fucking show off.
49:53 --> 49:55 [SPEAKER_04]: And it I hate it.
49:56 --> 49:56 [SPEAKER_04]: I hate it.
49:56 --> 50:02 [SPEAKER_03]: I love the pairing of joy.
50:02 --> 50:06 [SPEAKER_03]: I felt exactly the same because it was like she doesn't want to be here.
50:06 --> 50:19 [SPEAKER_03]: She's like basically nodding off and Everyone that's breathing is an inconvenience to her gradually she's showing the Whereas Ogrely has like the memory.
50:19 --> 50:28 [SPEAKER_03]: I think she's got the wisdom like she's the one that's been able to like she immediately comes in and diagnoses the crazy
50:28 --> 50:52 [SPEAKER_03]: line a lime margarita rash that's over the guys legs and she's got the the photogenic member photogenic that's not the one photograph of the board and she's just like sneaking up where there are just there are different personalities and she might just be somebody that's more in the realm of Dr. House where disinterested and humans aren't inconvenience to her
50:52 --> 50:55 [SPEAKER_03]: but she is still incredibly capable.
50:55 --> 50:57 [SPEAKER_03]: She just needs to be focused.
50:57 --> 51:03 [SPEAKER_03]: Whereas Ogilv, I think has eaten all of the medical textbooks and is yet to interact with a human that needs medical attention.
51:04 --> 51:09 [SPEAKER_03]: So, and I think I'd rather be treated by, by talk to Joy than Ogilv.
51:09 --> 51:10 [SPEAKER_04]: Then Ogilv.
51:10 --> 51:13 [SPEAKER_04]: I'd much rather have an asshole doctor than like,
51:13 --> 51:21 [SPEAKER_04]: just right to the point, and set of, you know, someone that needs to feel like they have to like flex their medical knowledge on me.
51:21 --> 51:32 [SPEAKER_04]: It's like, first of all, I'm here for a reason, and then it's because you have the knowledge, but also like, just fucking get to the point.
51:32 --> 51:41 [SPEAKER_04]: I think that's how I am with my therapist, where it's just like, I need someone that is just going to be an asshole and just be like, this is what's wrong.
51:41 --> 51:45 [SPEAKER_04]: And then it's just like, oh, do you have a direction, let's go and now I get over this.
51:46 --> 51:47 [SPEAKER_05]: I think
51:48 --> 51:49 [SPEAKER_05]: the, you know, the show.
51:49 --> 51:56 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, I was arguing with this John Laura on the other day on our last episode, when we got into it about Ogilvie.
51:56 --> 52:01 [SPEAKER_05]: Fortunately, nobody is adding me for trying to be a Ogilvie defender, so there's that.
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52:18 --> 52:19 [SPEAKER_05]: Blinking your Mr.
52:19 --> 52:20 [SPEAKER_05]: Patient.
52:21 --> 52:26 [SPEAKER_05]: is not ever treated by the show as a flat two-dimensional plot device.
52:27 --> 52:33 [SPEAKER_05]: They are all written as people who are going through complex things for some people.
52:33 --> 52:35 [SPEAKER_05]: It's the worst day of their lives.
52:36 --> 52:39 [SPEAKER_05]: For other people that's big inconveniences and things have to suck.
52:39 --> 52:42 [SPEAKER_05]: Another people that's their jobs and they're doing the thing or whatever.
52:42 --> 52:44 [SPEAKER_05]: But they're all people and they're all complex.
52:45 --> 52:46 [SPEAKER_05]: And they're all imagined complexly.
52:46 --> 52:48 [SPEAKER_05]: They're all written complexly.
52:49 --> 52:52 [SPEAKER_05]: And we see that in every interaction.
52:52 --> 53:02 [SPEAKER_05]: So I'm just waiting for what we get to see with Ogil V. And you know, not as a rehabilitation or a defense, but I want to see the other side of, I want to see his three dimensions.
53:03 --> 53:05 [SPEAKER_05]: Just like I've seen the three dimensions of joy.
53:06 --> 53:07 [SPEAKER_05]: Like, oh, she came from a family with this.
53:08 --> 53:09 [SPEAKER_05]: She's interested in pathology.
53:09 --> 53:15 [SPEAKER_05]: So now I've got a sense of what they've done with the character and I can see that she's
53:16 --> 53:20 [SPEAKER_05]: whole, where Olga V still is just sort of a two-dimensional.
53:20 --> 53:21 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he hasn't had that episode yet.
53:21 --> 53:22 [SPEAKER_03]: That's no.
53:22 --> 53:26 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and if it doesn't come, I mean, this is it.
53:26 --> 53:27 [SPEAKER_05]: This is it.
53:28 --> 53:29 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, this is the ways.
53:30 --> 53:32 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, we should start to wrap it up.
53:32 --> 53:42 [SPEAKER_05]: I did have one quick question before we start to
53:44 --> 54:02 [SPEAKER_05]: I did a strategic rewatch of I think three or four episodes of season one and man every episode was just like I think I watched one and then the last two whatever 15 and 16 or 14 and 15 whatever that the count was.
54:03 --> 54:08 [SPEAKER_05]: And I was just like, damn, every episode, every scene was just pressing my emotional buttons.
54:09 --> 54:11 [SPEAKER_05]: The music was really on point.
54:11 --> 54:17 [SPEAKER_05]: There's the one song that they opened the season with, which was incredible.
54:17 --> 54:21 [SPEAKER_05]: I'll drop it in for some credit music here, or for some outro music.
54:23 --> 54:26 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know if I could look it up in time.
54:26 --> 54:32 [SPEAKER_05]: Anyway, I have it here somewhere, but not close enough
54:35 --> 54:57 [SPEAKER_05]: So the, I think the question is, is season one or season two, I know we're not done with season two yet, but assuming the trajectory that we're on John, how are you feeling like are you do feel like you would put one season above the other in terms of your personal enjoyment, dude, it's hard to assume a trajectory though because like they're, you know,
54:58 --> 55:02 [SPEAKER_04]: with season one, they just throw the whole pit fest thing in, you know, that's true.
55:03 --> 55:03 [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
55:03 --> 55:03 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
55:03 --> 55:08 [SPEAKER_04]: You guys are like, three or four episodes left and it's just like that.
55:09 --> 55:13 [SPEAKER_04]: that whole thing there is just a completely turns the season around.
55:13 --> 55:29 [SPEAKER_04]: I saw this one video and I cannot, I was trying to look it up while you're talking because I wanted to give credit where it's due, but I'll share it with you so you can add it to the show notes if you want, but it was basically like a comparison of how
55:31 --> 55:46 [SPEAKER_04]: That is that whole like pit fest thing is the you know the house deep moment of season one and like it and and like there there's a lot of you know comparison between like how.
55:47 --> 56:04 [SPEAKER_04]: that kind of story like really helps with the pit where it's just like you have all these things and then just suddenly all hell breaks loose it but then like you have ups and downs within all hell breaking loose.
56:04 --> 56:07 [SPEAKER_04]: And I thought it was a very well done video.
56:07 --> 56:12 [SPEAKER_04]: So I will definitely make sure to share that link with you.
56:12 --> 56:16 [SPEAKER_04]: So that way you have, we can give the creator the credit that they're doing.
56:16 --> 56:17 [SPEAKER_04]: And also the views.
56:19 --> 56:19 [SPEAKER_04]: Views are important.
56:20 --> 56:28 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if I can, I don't know if I can say like, yeah, this is definitively a better or worse season because of that, right?
56:28 --> 56:53 [SPEAKER_04]: That being said, there are more things I think in this season that I'm like, a little more like, I don't like this, but it's, it's I don't like this for the right reasons where it's like,
56:54 --> 57:05 [SPEAKER_04]: You know, you were talking about how we don't have the conflict with Robbie, not having his anxiety this season, but his new conflict is, you know, constantly just budding heads with Al-Hashimi.
57:05 --> 57:18 [SPEAKER_04]: And I'm very interested to see what's going to happen with that and how are they going to resolve it before he just leaves for three months to go on his sabbatical to hopefully choose to wear a helmet.
57:18 --> 57:27 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, he's not dying off screen and season three better not open with him being that we would into the ER
57:28 --> 57:43 [SPEAKER_05]: that was such an interesting little hook that the writers threw in there of like showing intentionally showing him without the helmet and then bringing in a motorcycle rider and whatever people freaking out, great way to get engagement, right?
57:43 --> 57:46 [SPEAKER_03]: Everybody who's he got a buddy that hasn't turned up.
57:46 --> 57:47 [SPEAKER_03]: He's dead.
57:48 --> 57:51 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he is dead or dying somewhere.
57:51 --> 57:52 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm sure of it.
57:52 --> 57:53 [SPEAKER_05]: That's right.
57:53 --> 58:00 [SPEAKER_05]: Ian, are you able to give any indication of whether you're a season one or a season two?
58:00 --> 58:10 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I am with the same caveat, John gave of there's still a lot of season to go and a lot and happen, but it's pretty clearly season one for me so far.
58:10 --> 58:15 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I'm having a great time, but I've had more episodes so far that have ended.
58:15 --> 58:16 [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, oh!
58:16 --> 58:17 [SPEAKER_03]: We're done.
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58:38 --> 58:46 [SPEAKER_05]: Man, I would always be so jacked after watching an episode, especially if you've been into a couple of life, you'd be like, be talking to somebody on this phone.
58:46 --> 58:50 [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, whatever, like, that's how I was with Lost.
58:50 --> 58:51 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah.
58:51 --> 58:58 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, back in the day too, because like, when Lost was on TV, you know, it was, you know,
58:58 --> 59:12 [SPEAKER_03]: we would all show up at school next day and just be like, what the fuck is the water cooler talk at school every I remember I had a science class the the morning after every episode of Lost came out and we would just be around our table.
59:12 --> 59:14 [SPEAKER_03]: I retain nothing of that science class.
59:14 --> 59:16 [SPEAKER_03]: I retain a lot about Lost.
59:16 --> 59:20 [SPEAKER_03]: So he kind of tells you a lot about how TV can do that to you.
59:21 --> 59:25 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm definitely a season one, but it is mainly, it is Robbie.
59:25 --> 59:41 [SPEAKER_03]: Like I'm missing some extra, with Robbie traumatized the man, giving him something else with him because he was just like this, taking time bomb that just made it really relatable TV for me.
59:41 --> 59:42 [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm missing some of that in season two.
59:43 --> 59:43 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
59:44 --> 59:53 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I'm a feeling that like season one, they were mashing more of the emotional but yeah.
59:53 --> 01:00:00 [SPEAKER_05]: And I thought I felt that the pit fest thing, there were some stuff that I was just like, I don't know if I'm liking this so much.
01:00:00 --> 01:00:07 [SPEAKER_05]: Uh, but yeah, there was just a lot more intentional, hey, is this an emotional heart string?
01:00:07 --> 01:00:08 [SPEAKER_05]: Yank.
01:00:08 --> 01:00:09 [SPEAKER_05]: Yank.
01:00:09 --> 01:00:11 [SPEAKER_05]: And in this one, yeah, we're just sort of rushing.
01:00:11 --> 01:00:23 [SPEAKER_05]: We're just kind of cruising along through our day and things are happening and patients are coming and going and it doesn't feel over there, which frankly, I think in a long
01:00:23 --> 01:00:28 [SPEAKER_05]: is probably more sustainable for the show and more sustainable for me as a viewer.
01:00:29 --> 01:00:29 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
01:00:30 --> 01:00:35 [SPEAKER_03]: At some point, it's going to be like, don't close this emergency room because it's too much.
01:00:35 --> 01:00:35 [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
01:00:35 --> 01:00:37 [SPEAKER_03]: Why do you think you're happening to these people?
01:00:37 --> 01:00:46 [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I think it's also a good indication, though, of like, there is constantly shit that's going on in the emergency room in every emergency room.
01:00:46 --> 01:00:47 [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
01:00:48 --> 01:00:49 [SPEAKER_04]: I think, you know,
01:00:50 --> 01:01:04 [SPEAKER_04]: This show really sets out to do what Noah Wiley wanted to do and continue telling the stories of, you know, what health care workers are having to go through all these years later, even after ER has been done, right?
01:01:04 --> 01:01:12 [SPEAKER_04]: And I think it's it's done a really good job and it's got a lot of people very invested and interested in like,
01:01:12 --> 01:01:17 [SPEAKER_04]: what, you know, frontline workers' lives are like in this in these cases.
01:01:17 --> 01:01:18 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
01:01:18 --> 01:01:32 [SPEAKER_05]: So without being finger-waggy or without mythologizing or without putting them on on some sort of pedestal, it's just a very real look at bad, very real people who work incredibly difficult job.
01:01:32 --> 01:01:35 [SPEAKER_03]: Do you think they could this idea just popped into my head?
01:01:35 --> 01:01:39 [SPEAKER_03]: Do you think they could do a season during the pandemic?
01:01:40 --> 01:01:42 [SPEAKER_03]: Like jump back a few years.
01:01:43 --> 01:01:50 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think anyone wants to, I don't like that.
01:01:51 --> 01:01:52 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't want that.
01:01:52 --> 01:01:58 [SPEAKER_04]: Even now if I'm watching something and someone makes a call back to code, I'm like, come the fuck on.
01:01:58 --> 01:02:00 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I think we're still too close to it.
01:02:00 --> 01:02:04 [SPEAKER_05]: What am I clients is a documentary filmmaker?
01:02:04 --> 01:02:09 [SPEAKER_05]: And she put it made a film about this one town and how they got through it.
01:02:09 --> 01:02:12 [SPEAKER_05]: I was like, oh, well, you know, I want to watch it, you know, because like, I respect this person whenever.
01:02:13 --> 01:02:14 [SPEAKER_05]: And I was like, yeah, no.
01:02:15 --> 01:02:15 [SPEAKER_05]: This is all.
01:02:16 --> 01:02:17 [SPEAKER_05]: It's too close.
01:02:17 --> 01:02:32 [SPEAKER_05]: It's it's I remember all of this and yeah, it was not not a pleasant thing to watch Yeah, but something that he's pleasant and something that is why did you have something else John Oh, it's going to say as a hermit homebody though like it was first a couple of weeks Perfect for me.
01:02:32 --> 01:02:33 [SPEAKER_04]: It is awesome.
01:02:33 --> 01:02:35 [SPEAKER_03]: I know what I don't know closely
01:02:36 --> 01:02:42 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, so here we are, towards the end, and I alerted you guys to this before.
01:02:42 --> 01:02:45 [SPEAKER_00]: Still waiting on Pades for Baby Jane does.
01:02:47 --> 01:02:48 [SPEAKER_05]: It's Baby Jane Donut time.
01:02:49 --> 01:02:57 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm at disadvantage here, right, for the record, I haven't, I haven't, I haven't, I haven't, I haven't, I haven't, I haven't, I haven't, I haven't, I haven't, I haven't.
01:02:58 --> 01:03:16 [SPEAKER_05]: But you know, you may be closer, actually, we were talking about this off air that, you know, maybe that there is some, you know, given the, the historical ebs and flows of where people came settled that maybe her accent and your accent are closer than you think.
01:03:16 --> 01:03:18 [SPEAKER_05]: I guarantee you'll touch it under there, right though.
01:03:19 --> 01:03:20 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:03:20 --> 01:03:20 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, exactly.
01:03:21 --> 01:03:23 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, if this was a, if this was in Germany, possibly.
01:03:23 --> 01:03:24 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:03:24 --> 01:03:24 [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
01:03:25 --> 01:03:26 [SPEAKER_05]: Baby Jane Dow.
01:03:28 --> 01:03:40 [SPEAKER_05]: So I got a couple of listeners have sent in their samples as well, but I'm curious, Ian, if you could give it your best go.
01:03:41 --> 01:03:45 [SPEAKER_05]: All right, give us a college try.
01:03:45 --> 01:03:51 [SPEAKER_05]: It's gonna lean into it, gonna channel your inner dina, your inner dina, your inner dina.
01:03:52 --> 01:03:57 [SPEAKER_05]: Baby Jane Doe, that's pretty good, that's pretty good, that's not bad.
01:03:57 --> 01:03:58 [SPEAKER_05]: Let's see how that comes out.
01:03:59 --> 01:04:00 [SPEAKER_05]: Right here, let's listen to Dina.
01:04:00 --> 01:04:02 [SPEAKER_00]: Don't wait non-pages for Baby Jane Doe.
01:04:03 --> 01:04:04 [SPEAKER_03]: I gave it a bit too much.
01:04:04 --> 01:04:06 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I almost went a bit called to me there, I think.
01:04:06 --> 01:04:08 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, John, what do you got?
01:04:09 --> 01:04:14 [SPEAKER_04]: I feel like I need to have like four cigarettes real quick.
01:04:14 --> 01:04:19 [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, this is going to be awful, but baby Jane doubt.
01:04:21 --> 01:04:32 [SPEAKER_05]: All right, so we've got George here who is moody or something on discord.
01:04:32 --> 01:04:33 [SPEAKER_05]: Sorry, George.
01:04:33 --> 01:04:37 [SPEAKER_04]: I but you'd like to apologize to anyone from Pittsburgh.
01:04:38 --> 01:04:40 [SPEAKER_05]: It's a thing now.
01:04:40 --> 01:04:41 [SPEAKER_05]: This is a thing and it's not it.
01:04:41 --> 01:04:43 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, people are like from Pittsburgh are like, what is this accent?
01:04:43 --> 01:04:50 [SPEAKER_05]: We don't recognize this Baby Jane go Right, emphasis on the dog.
01:04:50 --> 01:04:51 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, right.
01:04:51 --> 01:04:59 [SPEAKER_05]: Here's Peter OH a long time subscriber and One of our actually Helps out a little bit around the discord and stuff as well.
01:04:59 --> 01:05:03 [SPEAKER_05]: So here's Peter's Baby Jane down
01:05:03 --> 01:05:07 [SPEAKER_05]: Hmm, short one, kind of undestayated.
01:05:07 --> 01:05:07 [SPEAKER_05]: Yep.
01:05:08 --> 01:05:13 [SPEAKER_05]: And then Jessica, I just, best of me on the discord, let me know that she sent hers in so I was able to quickly load it.
01:05:13 --> 01:05:14 [SPEAKER_05]: So here, let's hear Jessica.
01:05:16 --> 01:05:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Baby Taintow.
01:05:17 --> 01:05:20 [SPEAKER_03]: Wait, is she from Pittsburgh?
01:05:20 --> 01:05:20 [SPEAKER_03]: That's not fair.
01:05:21 --> 01:05:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Baby Taintow.
01:05:23 --> 01:05:25 [SPEAKER_05]: I think Jessica has it.
01:05:25 --> 01:05:26 [SPEAKER_03]: I think Jessica has it.
01:05:26 --> 01:05:27 [SPEAKER_03]: What do you think?
01:05:27 --> 01:05:27 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:05:27 --> 01:05:29 [SPEAKER_03]: That's got 100% baby Jane Dow.
01:05:30 --> 01:05:30 [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.
01:05:31 --> 01:05:32 [SPEAKER_03]: Who throws away a perfectly good baby?
01:05:33 --> 01:05:34 [SPEAKER_03]: No, I don't think I can't.
01:05:35 --> 01:05:36 [SPEAKER_03]: I can't help myself.
01:05:38 --> 01:05:39 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, Larry, it's got a love Dana.
01:05:41 --> 01:05:43 [SPEAKER_05]: So, well, this has been a lot of fun, guys.
01:05:43 --> 01:05:45 [SPEAKER_05]: Thanks for, there's so much, and I was just thinking too.
01:05:45 --> 01:05:47 [SPEAKER_05]: God, there's so much we haven't touched on so many characters.
01:05:47 --> 01:05:53 [SPEAKER_05]: We haven't touched on so many patients and character story lines, but John and I will be there.
01:05:53 --> 01:05:55 [SPEAKER_05]: I think we're getting our episodes out usually on Sundays.
01:05:56 --> 01:06:02 [SPEAKER_05]: Is when we're, since we're digging in a little bit deeper or we're taking our time a little bit since it comes out Thursday nights.
01:06:03 --> 01:06:05 [SPEAKER_05]: but this has been a good time.
01:06:05 --> 01:06:11 [SPEAKER_05]: Ian, again, thanks for dropping in and Starfleet Academy.
01:06:11 --> 01:06:12 [SPEAKER_05]: Yep.
01:06:12 --> 01:06:13 [SPEAKER_03]: Two left.
01:06:14 --> 01:06:17 [SPEAKER_03]: I've got episode nine and ten, a big finale.
01:06:17 --> 01:06:18 [SPEAKER_03]: There's going to be a season two.
01:06:18 --> 01:06:22 [SPEAKER_03]: So it's prime for cliffhangering if they, if they so choose to.
01:06:22 --> 01:06:29 [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, you come and find a search for captains pod pretty much anywhere in your podcast players and whatnot and you'll...
01:06:29 --> 01:06:35 [SPEAKER_05]: And I think we're going to do another a season recap you me and today, right?
01:06:35 --> 01:06:36 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I can ask the plan.
01:06:36 --> 01:06:43 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, people seem to tolerate you being on the podcast, so
01:06:43 --> 01:06:49 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm curious though, yeah, there's just things I was listening to your seven.
01:06:49 --> 01:06:58 [SPEAKER_05]: I haven't finished your episode 8, but I was like, oh, the, the one where everybody goes off for a short leave.
01:06:58 --> 01:07:13 [SPEAKER_05]: I want to talk to my cousin with the mystery wedding and the show much that I was like, I was screaming, I was shoveling my the snow in my driveway and I was like screaming at you guys in the
01:07:13 --> 01:07:17 [SPEAKER_05]: Those things that you guys that I felt missed, right?
01:07:17 --> 01:07:22 [SPEAKER_05]: Because you guys are doing what I want you to do on a podcast and there were things I'm like, what about this?
01:07:23 --> 01:07:23 [SPEAKER_05]: What about that?
01:07:23 --> 01:07:30 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the interesting thing with Captain Spot is that we go, we watch the episode and then immediately record.
01:07:30 --> 01:07:32 [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, don't do a second watch.
01:07:32 --> 01:07:34 [SPEAKER_03]: We don't do research.
01:07:34 --> 01:07:39 [SPEAKER_03]: We go in as ignorant as possible and just like kind of gut feeling a lot of it.
01:07:39 --> 01:07:49 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and episode A in particular, I have some, I didn't think they were hot takes on a returning character from Discovery, but they just got his told me they were very hot and very wrong takes.
01:07:50 --> 01:07:52 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I'm just gonna click the my own episode.
01:07:53 --> 01:07:57 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I just don't even have a set of, I haven't cut up, I haven't got all the way into it yet, so.
01:07:57 --> 01:08:01 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I have, I have some thoughts about TV that people have disagreed with.
01:08:02 --> 01:08:09 [SPEAKER_03]: Interesting.
01:08:09 --> 01:08:11 [SPEAKER_05]: He's uh, Joan, is this refighting words with her?
01:08:13 --> 01:08:14 [SPEAKER_05]: Is Zach watching Starfleet Academy?
01:08:15 --> 01:08:16 [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, he is.
01:08:16 --> 01:08:21 [SPEAKER_04]: Um, I, last I talked to him about it was.
01:08:21 --> 01:08:26 [SPEAKER_04]: He, he said something about how he had to sit in process.
01:08:27 --> 01:08:28 [SPEAKER_04]: Um, I have no context.
01:08:28 --> 01:08:29 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
01:08:29 --> 01:08:30 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't watch Starfleet Academy.
01:08:31 --> 01:08:31 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
01:08:31 --> 01:08:39 [SPEAKER_04]: So I, I couldn't, I couldn't tell you what exactly he was referring to,
01:08:39 --> 01:08:51 [SPEAKER_04]: Um, like I said, before we started recording my my Star Trek knowledge was mostly just around TNG because it was what was on PBS or whatever when I was, you know, home sick from school.
01:08:52 --> 01:08:52 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
01:08:52 --> 01:08:53 [SPEAKER_03]: That's the good stuff.
01:08:53 --> 01:08:54 [SPEAKER_04]: No being sick.
01:08:54 --> 01:08:54 [SPEAKER_04]: I like it.
01:08:54 --> 01:08:55 [SPEAKER_04]: I like Star Trek.
01:08:55 --> 01:08:58 [SPEAKER_04]: It's I'm just not a trekky at heart and I apologize for that.
01:08:58 --> 01:09:01 [SPEAKER_05]: There's only now if you want an IP in your heart.
01:09:01 --> 01:09:07 [SPEAKER_04]: Well, this is more than one, but if you want to, you ever want to talk about DIN, let me know.
01:09:07 --> 01:09:13 [SPEAKER_05]: Once we dunk in into a that of spice, it will bring him over.
01:09:14 --> 01:09:16 [SPEAKER_05]: We'll just send him right into a spice, well, exactly.
01:09:16 --> 01:09:20 [SPEAKER_03]: Turn up some blue contact lenses and we'll get going.
01:09:20 --> 01:09:29 [SPEAKER_05]: So, John, so you guys, you've got chapters, chat, I'm calling them chapters, one and two in the bag for doing minute podcast, folks, you can go find those out now.
01:09:30 --> 01:09:32 [SPEAKER_04]: And if they're finding any series, yes, I find any of you have.
01:09:33 --> 01:09:37 [SPEAKER_04]: And we have all of the Neville News part one and part two backlogs.
01:09:37 --> 01:09:42 [SPEAKER_04]: So, there are over 500 episodes and plus are summer school episodes?
01:09:42 --> 01:09:43 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah, forget about those.
01:09:44 --> 01:09:46 [SPEAKER_04]: And we had some prophecy that we did.
01:09:46 --> 01:10:10 [SPEAKER_04]: We did some prophecy recap in mid-season check-ins with UN Alicia, one of the episodes I'm going to plug the most that I just am still like over a year later, still just super jammed about is we did a summer school episode with a man named Raul Vega who was one of the folks that
01:10:10 --> 01:10:16 [SPEAKER_04]: works on Hans Zimmer's team to develop and write the music and all the different sounds and everything for you.
01:10:17 --> 01:10:26 [SPEAKER_04]: So we got to have a one on one with him about like what the writing process for Dune part one and part two's music was like and that episode is awesome.
01:10:26 --> 01:10:28 [SPEAKER_04]: So would strongly recommend
01:10:28 --> 01:10:34 [SPEAKER_04]: If you have time for one, go listen to that in an hour and you're going to learn so much about how they do all of it.
01:10:34 --> 01:10:41 [SPEAKER_04]: But if you really want to dive into Dune, like I said, over 500 hours, it's a listen to you.
01:10:41 --> 01:10:45 [SPEAKER_03]: So you guys must have been going for an amount of time.
01:10:46 --> 01:10:50 [SPEAKER_04]: Um, I might be wronging that 500 number actually now that I'm thinking about it.
01:10:50 --> 01:10:50 [SPEAKER_04]: I think it's close.
01:10:51 --> 01:10:51 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
01:10:51 --> 01:10:52 [SPEAKER_03]: Nice.
01:10:52 --> 01:10:53 [SPEAKER_03]: You guys are doing that.
01:10:53 --> 01:10:55 [SPEAKER_04]: There's, there's a shit load of doom.
01:10:55 --> 01:10:55 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
01:10:55 --> 01:10:58 [SPEAKER_04]: You have, you have many hours.
01:10:58 --> 01:10:59 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
01:10:59 --> 01:11:00 [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah.
01:11:00 --> 01:11:07 [SPEAKER_05]: My question is when are we going to do, uh, uh, David Lynch is 1984, minute by minute.
01:11:07 --> 01:11:11 [SPEAKER_05]: We're not doing a minute.
01:11:11 --> 01:11:12 [SPEAKER_05]: We have to talk about bugs.
01:11:13 --> 01:11:15 [SPEAKER_05]: We need to, we need a long time to be on.
01:11:16 --> 01:11:18 [SPEAKER_03]: Is Patrick Stewart with the bug charging into battle?
01:11:18 --> 01:11:20 [SPEAKER_03]: That's right, minute.
01:11:20 --> 01:11:21 [SPEAKER_05]: I got you covered.
01:11:21 --> 01:11:22 [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, that's your guess.
01:11:22 --> 01:11:23 [SPEAKER_05]: See, right there for that minute.
01:11:25 --> 01:11:27 [SPEAKER_04]: You know, we, we've talked about the, the lunch moving.
01:11:28 --> 01:11:31 [SPEAKER_04]: We're still figuring out if or what we're going to do for that one.
01:11:31 --> 01:11:32 [SPEAKER_04]: But.
01:11:33 --> 01:11:38 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, you got me that for sure because I mean, I know it's a hot mess, but boy, I love it so much.
01:11:39 --> 01:11:45 [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, you can find the Dune Minute if you just search whatever pod catcher of your choice.
01:11:46 --> 01:11:48 [SPEAKER_04]: The Dune Minute.
01:11:48 --> 01:11:51 [SPEAKER_04]: And we are on blue sky at Dune Minute.com.
01:11:52 --> 01:11:53 [SPEAKER_05]: Quick guys.
01:11:53 --> 01:11:55 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, thank you both for making some time.
01:11:55 --> 01:12:04 [SPEAKER_05]: It's been fun and maybe we'll circle back towards at the end of the season and maybe we'll do this again and catch your final season thoughts and roll.
01:12:04 --> 01:12:07 [SPEAKER_05]: We'll have some more baby Jane Doe contest for everybody.
01:12:08 --> 01:12:08 [SPEAKER_05]: Let's know.
01:12:09 --> 01:12:11 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I won't make you do it again.
01:12:11 --> 01:12:12 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't think I can do it.
01:12:12 --> 01:12:13 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you're going to do it.
01:12:13 --> 01:12:14 [SPEAKER_05]: Right.
01:12:14 --> 01:12:14 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
01:12:15 --> 01:12:16 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, congratulations, Jessica.
01:12:16 --> 01:12:17 [SPEAKER_05]: I think you nailed it.
01:12:17 --> 01:12:18 [SPEAKER_03]: So that's what you think.
01:12:18 --> 01:12:19 [SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.
01:12:19 --> 01:12:19 [SPEAKER_03]: Thanks for having us.
01:12:20 --> 01:12:21 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, pleasure.
01:12:21 --> 01:12:30 [SPEAKER_05]: So I'll drop in the song from season one episode one that I absolutely love and it's Robert Bradley's Blackwater Surprise.
01:12:30 --> 01:12:31 [SPEAKER_05]: That's the band.
01:12:31 --> 01:12:37 [SPEAKER_05]: And the song is Baby, off of their 1990 album Time to Discover.
01:12:37 --> 01:12:40 [SPEAKER_05]: So thanks, gentlemen, and we'll talk to you soon.
01:12:40 --> 01:12:40 [SPEAKER_04]: Bye.
01:12:40 --> 01:12:41 [SPEAKER_04]: See ya.
01:13:07 --> 01:13:14 [SPEAKER_02]: It's all right, baby, you this day, yeah
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