With season 3 of Silo officially locked and loaded for a July 3rd premiere, book-reader Elysia and show-only Luke reconvene in IT comb the new teaser trailer for clues and look through some new promotional images released by Apple to whet our anticipation. Tune in for a reminder of where we left things with certain key characters in season 2, and Luke's latest tin-foil-hat theories about what's really going on.
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00:28 --> 00:34 [SPEAKER_02]: First and foremost, a silo TV podcast, I'm Alicia, you're a Lucas-loving reader representative.
00:35 --> 00:40 [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm really representing all of the non-but readers and keeping Alicia on S20 comes to spoilers.
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01:11 --> 01:15 [SPEAKER_02]: But I really appreciate you thinking I only like the good guys.
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01:37 --> 01:57 [SPEAKER_02]: So anyway, you check out our coverage on the Lairhounds feed about their devil born again, but we are here today to talk silo because we have some news, we have a new trailer, we have some photos, we have a date, so before we get into it, this will be a
01:57 --> 02:09 [SPEAKER_02]: Spoiler-free discussion in the sense that as we said at the opening, I have read the book's Luke has not, we will not be talking about anything from the books that is beyond what has already aired.
02:09 --> 02:12 [SPEAKER_02]: So basically that is the first book.
02:12 --> 02:14 [SPEAKER_02]: is what was covered in the first two seasons.
02:15 --> 02:22 [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm free to make book comparisons there, but we will be talking about the first two seasons, obviously.
02:22 --> 02:33 [SPEAKER_02]: So make sure you're caught up, or don't mind being spoiled, do check out our full coverage, starting with in-depth analysis of the very first trailers for season one.
02:34 --> 02:41 [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry about the sound back there, but we have been
02:41 --> 02:52 [SPEAKER_02]: with lots of talk about the creators and the craft that goes into creating this show plus interviews with Hugh Howe, the writer of the novels and Saul Caieros from the TV writers room.
02:53 --> 02:57 [SPEAKER_02]: So if you are interested in all that background, absolutely, go check it out.
02:57 --> 03:00 [SPEAKER_02]: But right now, we're just going to get straight to the point.
03:00 --> 03:03 [SPEAKER_02]: And that is what is the point, Luke.
03:03 --> 03:05 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, we're going to look at the first trailer.
03:05 --> 03:06 [SPEAKER_02]: It's come out.
03:06 --> 03:07 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the first teaser.
03:07 --> 03:10 [SPEAKER_02]: And we got some Apple release some photos too.
03:10 --> 03:11 [SPEAKER_02]: And we got a date.
03:12 --> 03:16 [SPEAKER_02]: July 3rd is when the first episode of season three will premiere.
03:16 --> 03:21 [SPEAKER_02]: And then we will get weekly releases 10 episodes again.
03:21 --> 03:23 [SPEAKER_02]: So that's going to go into the start of September.
03:24 --> 03:26 [SPEAKER_00]: S. Very exciting.
03:26 --> 03:32 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm perfect timing because I'm an academic, so all of the students are away for the summer.
03:32 --> 03:37 [SPEAKER_00]: It's going to start and so it's going to end just as a student for terms.
03:37 --> 03:41 [SPEAKER_00]: So, just kids are, well, I'm going to tell you this is perfect.
03:41 --> 03:46 [SPEAKER_02]: I definitely prefer this to doing it over the holidays.
03:46 --> 03:49 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, doing it over Christmas for season two is not fun.
03:49 --> 03:50 [SPEAKER_02]: No, no.
03:51 --> 03:56 [SPEAKER_02]: But okay, before we get into the breakdown of the teaser itself, what are we feeling?
03:56 --> 03:58 [SPEAKER_02]: How do you feel about what you've seen so far?
03:59 --> 04:01 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, ask that as the non-book reader.
04:01 --> 04:11 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to be fascinated because we've already had season four green-letting film
04:11 --> 04:14 [SPEAKER_00]: We are two seasons, we're already two seasons in.
04:14 --> 04:20 [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm just assuming season four is also going to be 10 or one hour episodes.
04:20 --> 04:23 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to be really interested to see it like.
04:24 --> 04:42 [SPEAKER_00]: from your point of view have they done a good job of adapting the story and has there enough time to tell the story properly because my understanding is for the first two seasons we've sort of taken in all the book one and a little book two of a three book series.
04:42 --> 04:43 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
04:44 --> 04:44 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
04:44 --> 04:51 [SPEAKER_02]: So by the way, anyone who hasn't seen the teaser trailer for season three, I will post a link in the show notes and to those photos that I mentioned.
04:51 --> 04:58 [SPEAKER_02]: But, but yeah, as far as as how it's divided up, I mean, think about, for instance, the Dune movies.
04:58 --> 05:09 [SPEAKER_02]: The first two movies were the first book of Dune and now the third movie is going to be the second book with probably
05:10 --> 05:13 [SPEAKER_02]: And it's not like, it doesn't feel like that's wrong.
05:13 --> 05:15 [SPEAKER_02]: It's just, you needed all of that set up, I suppose.
05:16 --> 05:19 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so the trilogy is not like a equal link.
05:20 --> 05:21 [SPEAKER_00]: That is the three books.
05:22 --> 05:23 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know.
05:23 --> 05:29 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think they are obviously, they're cutting out a lot of side plots they've been doing that along the way, and they've been adding their own.
05:30 --> 05:39 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think what they're going to do is, and this has been pretty much confirmed and interviews is that the second book,
05:39 --> 05:41 [SPEAKER_02]: So, wool, that's what we've seen so far.
05:41 --> 05:51 [SPEAKER_02]: The second book shift is a prequel, which as this teaser suggests is going to be a focus of the season, but we know that we are still getting our current characters.
05:53 --> 05:58 [SPEAKER_02]: So I think they're going to be switching back and forth in time, you know, um, being those together.
05:59 --> 06:03 [SPEAKER_02]: And so that means basically they're weaving the last two books together.
06:03 --> 06:04 [SPEAKER_02]: And that makes sense to me.
06:04 --> 06:07 [SPEAKER_02]: That's what I thought was going to happen to be honest.
06:07 --> 06:13 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so there's a book reading your happy that we've got enough time and space to do that to do this properly.
06:14 --> 06:14 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.
06:14 --> 06:15 [SPEAKER_02]: No, we're good.
06:15 --> 06:23 [SPEAKER_02]: We've set up silos 17 and 18 and a lot of like set up the mystery of what's going on around the world.
06:23 --> 06:26 [SPEAKER_02]: Now it's time to give us some answers and they shall.
06:26 --> 06:27 [SPEAKER_02]: They shall, I promise.
06:28 --> 06:29 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, maybe.
06:29 --> 06:31 [SPEAKER_02]: What do you mean, maybe?
06:31 --> 06:37 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, they'll get their give us answers and yet they'll throw more questions at us because that's the way silo works.
06:37 --> 06:41 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I mean, don't nobody should think about this as like a lost kind of thing.
06:41 --> 06:44 [SPEAKER_02]: We know we the questions part.
06:45 --> 06:50 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to say there won't be any more questions, especially at the start of season three.
06:50 --> 07:06 [SPEAKER_02]: As you're like plunged into this backstory and you're like, who, what, where, huh?
07:06 --> 07:08 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I for the second half.
07:09 --> 07:10 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll believe you.
07:11 --> 07:14 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not entirely, but I'll go with that.
07:14 --> 07:20 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I'm sure like the first episode of season three is going to be a whole lot more questions is you're like what?
07:22 --> 07:32 [SPEAKER_02]: But we got a teaser for that obviously at the end of season two, where we have to see the new characters, Helen and Daniel, who will be central to the new season
07:32 --> 07:45 [SPEAKER_02]: So let's get into this, 53 second trailer that we got as Luke said, this is the penultimate season and it looks like they are going to.
07:45 --> 08:02 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I guess the question was about going further than four seasons would have been like, do they include stories beyond these books because there are short stories that hint and what happens after the end of these novels.
08:02 --> 08:07 [SPEAKER_02]: Possibly releasing more novels in this world in the future, so
08:07 --> 08:08 [SPEAKER_02]: We'll see.
08:08 --> 08:09 [SPEAKER_00]: Interesting.
08:09 --> 08:10 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.
08:10 --> 08:14 [SPEAKER_02]: But as for season three, here's what happens in the teaser.
08:14 --> 08:16 [SPEAKER_02]: I'll just run through it and then we'll talk about it.
08:17 --> 08:37 [SPEAKER_02]: We see Rebecca Ferguson's face are really Juliette and we hear her voice narrating before we can know why we're here, before we can know why everything is as it is, before we can know how it all will end.
08:37 --> 08:59 [SPEAKER_02]: And through this, we see a mix of past footage and footage from the new season, all running backwards, it seems, because, yeah, they're talking about going back to the beginning and telling the prequel story, things that we see include Shirley, Remy Milner, and Knox, Shay McCray, running through the silo.
08:59 --> 09:05 [SPEAKER_02]: I thought at first that this was a season two thing,
09:05 --> 09:30 [SPEAKER_02]: Because it's in one of the released photos for season three, I think it's actually them running like full spoilers for season two by the way, but you know, Juliet and Bernard ended up getting burned Juliet had a suit, but not did not and my guess is we see surely a knocks running to, you know, go be like, oh my god, there's people in the in the lock.
09:30 --> 09:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I've got to say the the appearance of Shrooks he did make my little heart saying They're just so getting together is a couple.
09:40 --> 09:40 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
09:40 --> 09:42 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you ship them, but they're they cute
09:42 --> 09:51 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, here's a ship we can be on the same page about yeah, and also like that is one of the big clarifying it's from season two is but no one dead.
09:52 --> 09:52 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
09:52 --> 09:53 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no.
09:54 --> 10:00 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean the show runner He seems to have suggested an answer, but maybe I shouldn't say what he seems to have suggested.
10:00 --> 10:02 [SPEAKER_02]: No, no, I leave me in suspense.
10:02 --> 10:04 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to know.
10:04 --> 10:04 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
10:04 --> 10:07 [SPEAKER_02]: I'll say he kind of suggested for book readers.
10:07 --> 10:10 [SPEAKER_02]: He suggested that it would
10:10 --> 10:11 [SPEAKER_02]: it will follow the books.
10:11 --> 10:12 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
10:13 --> 10:14 [SPEAKER_02]: So, okay.
10:14 --> 10:30 [SPEAKER_02]: And we also see shots from last season about like those little slips of paper that had the questions written on them about IT's lies and what really happened at Judge Meadow, raining down, remember they sent up the rocket, it exploded, the little papers rang.
10:30 --> 10:32 [SPEAKER_02]: Rand rained down that's what we see.
10:33 --> 10:40 [SPEAKER_02]: We see we do see a shot of Bernard Tim Robbins and the judicial grooms ward marching through the sila from last season.
10:40 --> 10:42 [SPEAKER_02]: We see a shot of Sims played by common.
10:43 --> 10:48 [SPEAKER_02]: We see a body falling through the silo, only it's falling upward because it's running backwards the footage.
10:48 --> 10:55 [SPEAKER_02]: We see people in fire suits ducking from an explosion, not sure if that's last season or this coming season.
10:55 --> 11:01 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, we see Juliet walking through a barren silo 17.
11:01 --> 11:10 [SPEAKER_02]: I guess, uh, a farm towards some living trees and also, later walking through a lush field of crop or running through a river lush field of crops in 18.
11:11 --> 11:15 [SPEAKER_02]: We see a glimpse of solo aka Jimmy play by Steve Zahn.
11:15 --> 11:17 [SPEAKER_02]: So that's in silo 17.
11:17 --> 11:23 [SPEAKER_02]: We see Bernard's hand picking up a glowing keyfub with the number 18 on it.
11:23 --> 11:24 [SPEAKER_02]: We still
11:25 --> 11:27 [SPEAKER_02]: I guess did we get an answer to that?
11:27 --> 11:31 [SPEAKER_02]: I know what the answer is, but sort of ish.
11:32 --> 11:34 [SPEAKER_00]: I think we got I think we got we got a sort of
11:35 --> 11:41 [SPEAKER_00]: range of possibilities of what that might be, but I don't think we got a definitive answer.
11:41 --> 11:46 [SPEAKER_02]: It's what unlocked the server closet where the so-called algorithm is, right?
11:46 --> 11:46 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
11:47 --> 11:53 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so okay, so that's, and but with sometimes it glows and buzzes and Bernard goes running.
11:53 --> 11:55 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm not sure.
11:55 --> 11:58 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure we know that that's all it does.
11:58 --> 12:08 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, okay, we see Juliette's feet walking across crumbling human bones as she entered silo 17 last season.
12:09 --> 12:21 [SPEAKER_02]: We see Juliette's eyes looking out across a barren landscape marked with the circles that we know where the silo's buried underground and the ruins of a city in the distance.
12:22 --> 12:28 [SPEAKER_02]: Do we know, I don't wanna say, do we know, I think we know which city that is now, right?
12:29 --> 12:32 [SPEAKER_00]: It was hinted up, but I don't think it was confirmed.
12:32 --> 12:33 [SPEAKER_00]: I will bite my tongue.
12:33 --> 12:37 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, he did that Daniel is a congressman from Georgia.
12:37 --> 12:40 [SPEAKER_00]: So that was confirmed, but yeah.
12:41 --> 12:41 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, okay.
12:42 --> 12:46 [SPEAKER_02]: So then we get also stuff that's definitely new footage.
12:46 --> 12:50 [SPEAKER_02]: We get one person in a suit.
12:50 --> 12:58 [SPEAKER_02]: we just see the hands, hands a yellow duck pez dispenser to another person in a suit, it looks like it could both be man's hands.
12:59 --> 13:02 [SPEAKER_02]: One, the person who takes it definitely is man's hands.
13:02 --> 13:15 [SPEAKER_02]: I have an idea, I don't know, without my pee, but it looks like from their clothing, it's in, would you think so far of what you've seen of the new footage?
13:15 --> 13:20 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we're obviously going to be doing jumping time lines.
13:21 --> 13:33 [SPEAKER_00]: It does give, we can talk about this now and talk about this later, depending on who it does give me some sort of theories about what might have caused people to have to move into the silo in the first place.
13:33 --> 13:35 [SPEAKER_00]: And I kind of hope I'm wrong.
13:35 --> 13:36 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
13:36 --> 13:37 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, because we don't think it is.
13:37 --> 13:38 [SPEAKER_00]: Go ahead, third up.
13:38 --> 13:46 [SPEAKER_00]: What, what I hope it's not is some kind of like apocalyptic nuclear
13:46 --> 13:56 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it is that, because I think A. Hugh Howard is a better writer than that, and that's a little bit of a cliche.
13:57 --> 13:58 [SPEAKER_00]: And B.
13:58 --> 14:00 [SPEAKER_00]: That's just not how nuclear war works.
14:00 --> 14:09 [SPEAKER_00]: He wouldn't have time to build like 50 odd silos, or however many silos the rock don't know that this is the only like constellation silos.
14:10 --> 14:15 [SPEAKER_00]: In my head, there are like silos all over the planet.
14:15 --> 14:24 [SPEAKER_00]: So I hope it's not that's yeah so in my head I hope it's not like nuclear or I hope it's okay Can I can I ask about the silos all over the planet?
14:24 --> 14:26 [SPEAKER_02]: Do you think they were built in cooperation?
14:27 --> 14:28 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, well, okay, okay.
14:29 --> 14:39 [SPEAKER_00]: Because what I want to sort of working theories is that this is this is like AI gone AI running
14:39 --> 14:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, and this was some kind of, I think like there was, they created, like this, my theory is they created this like super intelligence.
14:51 --> 14:56 [SPEAKER_00]: It told them there was going to be this disaster, um, of whatever description.
14:56 --> 15:01 [SPEAKER_00]: So they built the silos to avoid it, except the disaster never actually happened.
15:01 --> 15:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
15:02 --> 15:03 [SPEAKER_00]: It was the AI line.
15:04 --> 15:05 [SPEAKER_00]: This is all my head count.
15:05 --> 15:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
15:06 --> 15:07 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
15:07 --> 15:07 [SPEAKER_02]: No.
15:07 --> 15:12 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just thinking as you're saying this, a thing about the book that I think they'll do in the show.
15:12 --> 15:15 [SPEAKER_02]: Also is, you know, we're talking about the slope of answers.
15:15 --> 15:17 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
15:17 --> 15:23 [SPEAKER_02]: sometimes they also, they give partial answers that are misleading and they're partial miss.
15:24 --> 15:24 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
15:24 --> 15:26 [SPEAKER_02]: And then when you get fuller answers, things flesh out.
15:26 --> 15:29 [SPEAKER_02]: So sorry, just thinking about that is you're talking about your theories.
15:30 --> 15:30 [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah.
15:30 --> 15:31 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
15:31 --> 15:32 [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I really,
15:32 --> 15:36 [SPEAKER_00]: this kind of hinted that it might be a sort of war type scenario.
15:36 --> 15:37 [SPEAKER_00]: I hope it's not that.
15:38 --> 15:39 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't hope it's not that.
15:39 --> 15:44 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it's, but that did sort of tilt me a little bit more in that direction.
15:45 --> 15:45 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, okay.
15:46 --> 15:47 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
15:47 --> 15:49 [SPEAKER_02]: So we see the new characters.
15:50 --> 15:54 [SPEAKER_02]: We saw in the final season of season two, the journalist Helen Drew.
15:54 --> 16:01 [SPEAKER_02]: We have her full name now from the titles played by Jessica Henwick,
16:01 --> 16:05 [SPEAKER_00]: Is that, is that, is that, do you think that's a nancy drew reference?
16:06 --> 16:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Helen Drew.
16:06 --> 16:09 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, would the, you know, would the invest in it?
16:09 --> 16:10 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, because she's invested in the list.
16:10 --> 16:11 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
16:11 --> 16:12 [SPEAKER_02]: Could be.
16:12 --> 16:12 [SPEAKER_00]: Could be.
16:13 --> 16:13 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
16:14 --> 16:24 [SPEAKER_02]: And we, so we see her give that same pez dispenser, which we obviously know so well by now to congressman Daniel Keane played by Ashley Zuckerman.
16:24 --> 16:27 [SPEAKER_02]: And this is the character, of course, known as Donald in the books.
16:28 --> 16:30 [SPEAKER_02]: They didn't want to have a politician named Donald in the show.
16:30 --> 16:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
16:30 --> 16:33 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm really fine with it.
16:33 --> 16:43 [SPEAKER_02]: And they seem to be in the backseat of a car, they're traveling during the daytime, but then in the next shot, we see a flock like a police S.O.L.A.
16:43 --> 16:44 [SPEAKER_00]: Like a moaticate.
16:44 --> 16:46 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, driving down a highway at night.
16:46 --> 16:51 [SPEAKER_02]: So I mean, I guess like we know he's a congressman, obviously there's going to be political stuff in play.
16:51 --> 16:55 [SPEAKER_02]: We still, we'll talk about in the photos some new characters who look politically dressed.
16:56 --> 17:06 [SPEAKER_02]: And then we see a hand drawing a circle of circles with a circle in the middle, so I don't know that looks like some sort of silo schematic or something.
17:08 --> 17:19 [SPEAKER_02]: We see, so this is the part of the trailer that I went back and forth like scrubbing back and forth over the most is we see and I realize it's actually two different shots.
17:19 --> 17:35 [SPEAKER_02]: we see flares being launched from and it's like it's not high enough definition for me to get a good look but it looks to me like it's a ship in the ocean yeah and then we see a helicopter bomb that ship
17:35 --> 17:38 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think it's a ship.
17:38 --> 17:43 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure it's a helicopter or whether it's a plane, but I don't think you're going to be an aircraft.
17:43 --> 17:45 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't think it really matters too much one way or the other.
17:45 --> 17:56 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I'll say that that scene, like some about like a ship being bombed on the ocean is not from the book, but I can imagine how it fits into the book.
17:57 --> 18:04 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I always love it when they do this because it's like, well, it's, it's, it's a rare moment of equality when they do it when they do it.
18:06 --> 18:11 [SPEAKER_02]: And then we also see someone in a red protective suit sending something into an incinerator.
18:11 --> 18:19 [SPEAKER_02]: And I'll say already right now in the photos we got from Apple, we see Sims in a red protective suit like that.
18:20 --> 18:30 [SPEAKER_02]: So, I don't know, not also not completely sure why Sims is wearing a suit like that, but they've also, they've expanded his role so much from the novel and I'm glad for it, so.
18:30 --> 18:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
18:31 --> 18:39 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, what happens to Sims is one of the most interesting things that I'm sort of looking forward to, season two left him in a very strange way.
18:40 --> 18:44 [SPEAKER_00]: You're going to recap that for people to remind them?
18:44 --> 18:56 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, but basically, Sims was always under the impression that he was, that he was going to be bananas apprentice in the end because that's how the silo works.
18:57 --> 19:00 [SPEAKER_00]: You are apprentice to a certain role.
19:00 --> 19:17 [SPEAKER_00]: And the very end, Sims is granted access to the vaults, the place where the artificial intelligence thing is, except the artificial intelligence kicks him out, but seems as wife and so, but allows as wife and son to enter.
19:18 --> 19:24 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I would choose Camille over Sims when it came to that kind of work as well.
19:24 --> 19:38 [SPEAKER_00]: I think what was really interesting, one of the supports of season two, the worst, like most interesting, the way in which it revealed over the course of the season, the Bernard was never in a lot of Sims, but he is a apprentice.
19:38 --> 19:43 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Sims just doesn't have the skills to run out.
19:43 --> 19:50 [SPEAKER_02]: And I will say that in the books, Sims wanting to be for Nards of Prentice, that is a thing, and Lucas becoming it instead.
19:50 --> 19:51 [SPEAKER_02]: That is a plot point.
19:52 --> 19:55 [SPEAKER_02]: But we don't meet Sims as wife in the book.
19:55 --> 20:00 [SPEAKER_02]: So this whole thing with Camille being chosen over him is totally new as well.
20:00 --> 20:01 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so that's fun.
20:01 --> 20:04 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm afraid anyone who hasn't listened to her previous coverage.
20:04 --> 20:06 [SPEAKER_02]: I I'm kind of a fan of Camille.
20:06 --> 20:25 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm yeah, I kind of like she's got this whole lady, but Beth and I guess so and then the ending of the trailer is as Juliet says how it all began we see an overhead shot of that barren field of silo circles and it flickers.
20:25 --> 20:37 [SPEAKER_02]: and we see the same view covered in lush green grass and trees and the city in the background is whole with blue skies and many people are walking along the pathways connecting these underground silos.
20:38 --> 20:44 [SPEAKER_02]: So I did pause and do a count and there are
20:44 --> 20:48 [SPEAKER_02]: 49 silos around one central silos.
20:48 --> 20:50 [SPEAKER_02]: So we were questioning, are there 50 or 51?
20:50 --> 20:52 [SPEAKER_00]: There's 50, okay.
20:52 --> 21:06 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, and it looks like there's, yeah, there's all these pathways, as I said, and there's a pathway from the central silo bypassing all the other silos connecting it to the interest entrance.
21:06 --> 21:08 [SPEAKER_02]: So this is obviously that silo one.
21:08 --> 21:10 [SPEAKER_02]: I feel comfortable saying that.
21:10 --> 21:12 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
21:12 --> 21:13 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so it's cut.
21:13 --> 21:17 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I wrote in the notes one silo to rule the more presented last season.
21:17 --> 21:27 [SPEAKER_02]: So, and then we see a crumbling silo logo with a beam of sunlight cutting through some thick gray clouds behind it.
21:28 --> 21:30 [SPEAKER_02]: and it says the truth.
21:30 --> 21:32 [SPEAKER_02]: We'll surface July 3rd, 2026.
21:32 --> 21:45 [SPEAKER_02]: So I'll say for the the books, whether people I think Abby and I might have to hop on the mic for a spoiler discussion, which will be in the subscriber feed because this all looks
21:45 --> 21:51 [SPEAKER_02]: mostly but not completely the way I would have guessed with the overhead shot of the silos and everything.
21:52 --> 22:01 [SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, this, this pezz thing that's not in the books is been messing with reader expectations and there's new developments in that front in the trailer.
22:01 --> 22:03 [SPEAKER_00]: The pest, the pest thing is not in the book.
22:03 --> 22:04 [SPEAKER_00]: Nope.
22:04 --> 22:05 [SPEAKER_00]: Nope.
22:05 --> 22:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
22:06 --> 22:15 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if I get, if I get nothing else out of this series,
22:15 --> 22:20 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it apparently it's available in Britain at some stores.
22:20 --> 22:21 [SPEAKER_02]: People said here.
22:21 --> 22:43 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there isn't there's an American candy shop in some countries like And not like one of these One of these alleged Front American candy shops like a proper American candy shop and that does sell pads Because I actually went in there to see a bit so I should be went in there to see it for so Pads because I wanted to see if I can get a duck
22:43 --> 22:48 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, past dispense, uh, I couldn't, they don't do ducks.
22:49 --> 22:50 [SPEAKER_02]: No.
22:50 --> 22:50 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
22:50 --> 22:53 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think they did like some special release.
22:54 --> 22:56 [SPEAKER_02]: It really did to the show, but it was limited or something.
22:56 --> 22:57 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
22:57 --> 22:59 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't have any past dispensers, but I used to really enjoy it.
22:59 --> 23:02 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
23:02 --> 23:06 [SPEAKER_02]: So, that's the footage and the voiceover of the trailer.
23:06 --> 23:07 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, overall thoughts?
23:08 --> 23:12 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I mean, really excited for the new season.
23:12 --> 23:26 [SPEAKER_00]: Really excited to see how they handle the two-time frames running side-by-side because last season we had two locations running side-by-side.
23:26 --> 23:35 [SPEAKER_00]: Really interested to see if we see more silos other than silo of 17 and 18.
23:36 --> 23:39 [SPEAKER_00]: really interested in what happens with sins.
23:40 --> 23:43 [SPEAKER_00]: We're really interested in now what happens with the not.
23:47 --> 23:56 [SPEAKER_00]: Really interested to see what happens with solo because if you totally played a major role in the rest of the show, I'd believe you.
23:56 --> 23:59 [SPEAKER_00]: If you told me we don't really see him again.
23:59 --> 24:08 [SPEAKER_00]: I believe, I think you, there's, in some senses that characters might have fulfilled their role in the story.
24:08 --> 24:13 [SPEAKER_00]: On the other hand, this is an interesting character, but there's a lot of different things that you could do with them.
24:14 --> 24:15 [SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
24:15 --> 24:15 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
24:15 --> 24:16 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
24:16 --> 24:19 [SPEAKER_02]: Question about, I obviously bite in my tongue on that.
24:19 --> 24:25 [SPEAKER_02]: But question about the shot at the end of the trailer where it flickers to green, you think, really fake this time.
24:27 --> 24:28 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna go real.
24:28 --> 24:29 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
24:29 --> 24:30 [SPEAKER_00]: But it's a 5149 call.
24:30 --> 24:34 [SPEAKER_00]: I could say it being funny.
24:34 --> 24:35 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
24:35 --> 24:39 [SPEAKER_02]: Any other tin-thed tin-hat theories to throw out?
24:41 --> 24:43 [SPEAKER_02]: No, I think you've already had my tin-foil hat.
24:43 --> 24:44 [SPEAKER_02]: See it here.
24:44 --> 24:45 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, okay.
24:45 --> 24:46 [SPEAKER_00]: For this podcast.
24:46 --> 24:52 [SPEAKER_02]: But hopes about what you will see, like what has your most intrigued based on this trailer so far?
24:52 --> 24:54 [SPEAKER_02]: We'll get into the photos shortly.
24:54 --> 25:03 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean I want to see obviously you know who built the silos and why and I think we are so we are sort of getting there.
25:03 --> 25:15 [SPEAKER_00]: And also like I want to see what happens in silo 18 for you know somebody returning from another silo which as far as we know has never happened before.
25:16 --> 25:32 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, so that that, because one of the, one of the cool things about SILO is the way it tells the story of this self-contained society, and all of a sudden you're going to be introducing, potentially introducing an outsider to that element.
25:32 --> 25:38 [SPEAKER_00]: On one of the things we've been told from the first episode is that this is a self-contained community.
25:38 --> 25:41 [SPEAKER_00]: Nobody believes, nobody ends.
25:42 --> 26:07 [SPEAKER_00]: So I'd be really interested from the political and a social point of view what that does to the silo, because we don't really know who's in charge of the silo anymore, because obviously the meddite season one, but not is if not dead, at least probably out of action for a good
26:07 --> 26:07 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
26:08 --> 26:08 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
26:08 --> 26:11 [SPEAKER_02]: I'll say that it's interesting.
26:11 --> 26:26 [SPEAKER_02]: The first book does, it's interesting where they stop this season because the first book does show what happens the next thing that happens after this incident in the burning airlock and answers those questions.
26:26 --> 26:32 [SPEAKER_02]: But then, yeah, they've decided to leave that as a question going into season three.
26:32 --> 26:37 [SPEAKER_02]: So I guess maybe that's also to give
26:37 --> 26:42 [SPEAKER_02]: have that the, you know, Juliet and co-story continue to go on as they tell the origin story.
26:43 --> 26:43 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
26:44 --> 26:55 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, if Giulietto is in this season less because they're making more room for the origin story, if you get answers more quickly, but see less of Giuliet, are you okay with that?
26:55 --> 26:58 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, I'm, I'm, I'm happy with that.
26:58 --> 27:08 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I always, I always, one of the things I like about the side of that is you've got this big star in Rebecca Ferguson who is also a producer.
27:08 --> 27:14 [SPEAKER_00]: And, yeah, Julia is central to the story, but I don't think I've never so seen it as Julia's story.
27:15 --> 27:15 [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
27:15 --> 27:17 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, she didn't even start.
27:17 --> 27:25 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, they, they, they, they have a look at her for the first time at the end of I think episode one, which is slightly moving it up, you know, just because they have that star.
27:25 --> 27:28 [SPEAKER_02]: And they were like, no, don't worry, Rebecca, because she's come isn't it?
27:28 --> 27:29 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
27:29 --> 27:35 [SPEAKER_02]: But, um, the show starts the way the book starts, where it starts out being, Holston and Allison's story.
27:35 --> 27:37 [SPEAKER_02]: And then it's Mayor John's story, you know,
27:37 --> 27:59 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I still want my Holston and I want some spinoffs, so yeah, then we'll talk about that some of the time, but yeah, so so yeah, I'm not like I've never seen this as being Julia's story I've seen this as being the story of the solo Julia being an important character within that.
27:59 --> 28:02 [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I'm quite happy, but
28:02 --> 28:08 [SPEAKER_00]: That's probably, I don't mind not seeing as much Julia, this season.
28:09 --> 28:09 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, okay.
28:11 --> 28:24 [SPEAKER_02]: I'll just throw out one last thing that they have finished tap filming season four, and Steve Zahn said in an interview with Collider, this is quoting him directly, there is a lot in four.
28:25 --> 28:26 [SPEAKER_02]: It spreads out all over.
28:26 --> 28:27 [SPEAKER_02]: It gets really cool.
28:27 --> 28:29 [SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of action.
28:29 --> 28:34 [SPEAKER_00]: So that means solo is, we do see solo all the way to the end then.
28:35 --> 28:40 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, I mean, at least Steve Zons aware of it, but okay.
28:40 --> 28:41 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
28:41 --> 28:41 [SPEAKER_02]: That's it.
28:41 --> 28:42 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we don't know.
28:42 --> 28:42 [SPEAKER_02]: We don't know.
28:44 --> 28:48 [SPEAKER_02]: But we will talk about what we do know about the season three cast.
28:48 --> 28:54 [SPEAKER_02]: And we will talk about those photos that I've been mentioning, which again, you can find linked in the show notes after a quick break.
28:54 --> 28:55 [SPEAKER_02]: Be right back.
28:56 --> 29:02 [SPEAKER_02]: Your regularly scheduled breakdown will begin in three, two, one.
29:05 --> 29:11 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so we have, we know the surviving cast from seasons one and two.
29:11 --> 29:18 [SPEAKER_02]: The people we've met so far, so are probably coming back, or we have been confirmed because they are in the teaser.
29:19 --> 29:27 [SPEAKER_02]: So Julia, Shirley Knox, of course, Martha Walker, played by Harriet Walter and her ex-wife Carla, played by Claire Perkins.
29:28 --> 29:30 [SPEAKER_02]: You excited to see your down deeper's back?
29:31 --> 29:32 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
29:32 --> 29:41 [SPEAKER_00]: I want to see down beat that beat he hangin' as well, like I don't think we saw it, I don't think we saw it, but we possibly saw it in the trailer.
29:42 --> 29:44 [SPEAKER_02]: No, yeah, he does show up in the photos.
29:44 --> 29:45 [SPEAKER_02]: We see.
29:45 --> 29:53 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we see in the photos Paul Billings play by Chonaza Uche and he we don't see his wife Kathleen play by Caitlin Saws visit presumably.
29:53 --> 30:08 [SPEAKER_02]: She's back WD Hank we do see play by Billy Possible the wait and Nairdu well Patrick Kennedy play by Rick Gomez and of course My favorite Lucas Kyle play by Avina she was last seen being threatened by a voice in the door
30:08 --> 30:14 [SPEAKER_02]: when he ran away from his training to be Bernard Shadow and went into the basement up the silo.
30:15 --> 30:21 [SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah, Lucas Kyle, on the loose, why are you excited about that storyline?
30:21 --> 30:24 [SPEAKER_02]: And what do you most curious about there?
30:25 --> 30:48 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I, yes, there's a lot, there's a lot of, there's a lot of change coming to silo 18 because, yeah, you've got Lucas Kyle of it run, you've got Juliet coming back from a different silo, so like clearly the, the mythology, the mythos of silo 18 is not going to be able to survive contact with these two things.
30:48 --> 30:58 [SPEAKER_00]: I'd be really interested to see if there's a conversation between them, or when there is a conversation between them, because I'm truly at.
30:59 --> 31:09 [SPEAKER_00]: because they're both sort of seeing little, it's that all sort of line about blind guys, describing an elephant to each other.
31:09 --> 31:14 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, they're all seeing different parts of the truth.
31:14 --> 31:19 [SPEAKER_00]: So it would be really interesting to see how they put that, they did that together.
31:19 --> 31:27 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think actually for that reason, they might actually delay in the two of them meeting until quite deep into,
31:27 --> 31:32 [SPEAKER_00]: Season three, because that seems like it would be a... Oh, I hope it will moment.
31:33 --> 31:33 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, okay.
31:34 --> 31:39 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm always about, like, get the crew back together.
31:39 --> 31:46 [SPEAKER_02]: We've also, of course, we know Sims and his wife Camille are back, by Alexandria Riley, as we've said in their son.
31:46 --> 31:52 [SPEAKER_02]: As you said, Camille was last seeing being given access to the silo-18 vault.
31:52 --> 32:11 [SPEAKER_02]: And there are other minor characters that survived like Sandy or the deputy Molly Karen's or Teddy from mechanical or Diego Obvious who I've read up every dubbed him, Diego, Diego, DVS after season two, but we'll remind you who these people are as they show up in season three.
32:12 --> 32:19 [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm still waiting for, for Witz's face for Danny for my tea.
32:19 --> 32:22 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, it's not happening at least you give it up.
32:22 --> 32:25 [SPEAKER_02]: He was last seen in a room with the sack over his head, so I don't know.
32:25 --> 32:34 [SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, and there's of course Jimmy slash solo and the kids of silo 17 who are still in the other silo.
32:35 --> 32:37 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I forgot I forgot in about the kids.
32:37 --> 32:43 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so let's see, presumably we'll check in on them occasionally too, what's going on over there.
32:43 --> 32:43 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
32:44 --> 32:55 [SPEAKER_02]: And so, add to this, we have names of a bunch of new characters, and after seeing the photos we'll talk about in a second, I'm pretty sure I know who each of these are playing.
32:55 --> 33:03 [SPEAKER_02]: I won't say now, but book readers, I think that they are just, they're the major characters that we expect to be introduced in this new season.
33:03 --> 33:24 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't, you don't,
33:24 --> 33:30 [SPEAKER_02]: So we've, of course, we've already met Helen and Daniel, played by Jessica Henwick and Ashley Zuckerman.
33:30 --> 33:31 [SPEAKER_02]: We've talked about them.
33:32 --> 33:36 [SPEAKER_02]: We have Laura Enis, who I'm not an ER fan.
33:36 --> 33:37 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I'm so excited.
33:37 --> 33:40 [SPEAKER_00]: It's Dr. We Stokes and Weaver!
33:40 --> 33:42 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, well, there you go.
33:42 --> 33:44 [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm glad that you're representing on that front.
33:45 --> 33:58 [SPEAKER_02]: So she is an older woman who is, and I said to someone who looks politically dressed, I probably say that she's wearing some sort of suit dress, but she's standing in front of an American flag.
33:59 --> 34:03 [SPEAKER_00]: It's interesting because my understanding is the law-runner.
34:03 --> 34:17 [SPEAKER_00]: although she starred out as an actor, a career is actually sort of gone sideways into directing and producing, so she doesn't actually act, but for what I can tell from my quick-armed baby, she doesn't actually act all the time.
34:18 --> 34:19 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
34:19 --> 34:20 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I love it.
34:20 --> 34:21 [SPEAKER_02]: I love it.
34:21 --> 34:21 [SPEAKER_02]: Interesting.
34:21 --> 34:23 [SPEAKER_02]: So it's interesting that she's back.
34:23 --> 34:24 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
34:24 --> 34:27 [SPEAKER_02]: And then we also see an actress.
34:27 --> 34:33 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not really familiar with Morgan Christy, who is seems to be standing in the same room that we see Laura Innocen.
34:35 --> 34:36 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm just trying to look at her.
34:36 --> 34:37 [SPEAKER_02]: I am D.B.
34:37 --> 34:38 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think she's new to me.
34:39 --> 34:42 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm excited to see what she, she's in Grant Chester.
34:42 --> 34:44 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't watch, yeah, anyway.
34:44 --> 34:50 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, there's someone who, with whom, like, who I'm really excited about is Jessica around Finlay.
34:51 --> 35:14 [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, she, we see her dressed in, she's, like, she played civil and downtown Abbey, she's been an antenna mother, things, um, she played affiliate and my favorite recorded stage adaptation of Hamlet, who, that I was talking about recently, but anyway, she is dressed in Air Force
35:14 --> 35:22 [SPEAKER_00]: I just had a quick look and Laura and this is the last acting project before this was 2023.
35:22 --> 35:22 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
35:22 --> 35:28 [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, she seems to mostly be doing directing and producing these days.
35:28 --> 35:29 [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, it's interesting.
35:30 --> 35:31 [SPEAKER_02]: So it's a good get.
35:31 --> 35:33 [SPEAKER_02]: I saw people on Reddit were super excited about her.
35:34 --> 35:36 [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm excited about her too.
35:37 --> 35:58 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I think I know who she's playing and it's a character that we've said we we already knew is going to be gender swapped from the novel and then we see to older gentlemen read Bernie and Matt Craven I'm pretty sure I know who they are and we see Colin Hanks I'm excited about that one too and I'm
35:58 --> 36:01 [SPEAKER_02]: pretty sure I know who he is.
36:01 --> 36:09 [SPEAKER_02]: I'll just say he's looking maybe like maybe I won't say we'll let's talk about what the photos are.
36:09 --> 36:29 [SPEAKER_02]: yeah um so we got uh the form of the former cast we got some photos like we see communal talking to the algorithm okay we know what that's about we see shots of Juliet and Hank and Knox together and we see billings and what looks like maybe the
36:29 --> 36:34 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, we see another interesting shot with Juliette.
36:34 --> 36:48 [SPEAKER_02]: She's looking at a share of spatch sitting in Martha's workshop as Martha Sims Rick Lucas and another character whom, I think, I think the other character might be George's ex Regina.
36:49 --> 36:51 [SPEAKER_02]: They're all standing around her looking on.
36:52 --> 36:52 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, okay.
36:53 --> 36:55 [SPEAKER_02]: What do you think about that gathering of people?
36:55 --> 36:56 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
36:57 --> 37:05 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's particularly interesting that George X is there because, yeah, that's going to be an interesting conversation with Julie.
37:05 --> 37:07 [SPEAKER_00]: If she has a conversation with you.
37:07 --> 37:08 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, didn't they meet already?
37:08 --> 37:09 [SPEAKER_02]: They met already.
37:09 --> 37:10 [SPEAKER_00]: They met already, yeah.
37:10 --> 37:10 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
37:11 --> 37:18 [SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, I guess it makes sense because Regina, obviously she was, she had the connection with with the relics.
37:18 --> 37:21 [SPEAKER_02]: She was, you know, had the connections with the underground people.
37:21 --> 37:24 [SPEAKER_02]: I hope we see Regina's giant ass cat again.
37:24 --> 37:27 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, that really, that really big cup.
37:27 --> 37:33 [SPEAKER_02]: And then we also, as I said earlier, we see Sims in a red protective suit.
37:33 --> 37:36 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, it looks like a suit to go outside, but red.
37:37 --> 38:03 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, maybe a fire suit, right now, Julia, it was where anyway, I don't know, I don't know that is that is it seems like, you know, they're continuing to flash out seems role, which I support so this will be something new and then we see photos of the new cast so we see a photo of Helen and Daniel standing in a garden outside of wooden building looking like they're having some sort of tough conversation they both have serious faces on.
38:03 --> 38:13 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, we see Helen's standing with Colin Hanks and another guy who's taking notes as they all observe something off-screen their outside at desk.
38:14 --> 38:19 [SPEAKER_02]: So, um, they seem to be perhaps, supervising
38:19 --> 38:21 [SPEAKER_02]: something that's going on.
38:21 --> 38:25 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I'm biting my tongue so much.
38:25 --> 38:25 [SPEAKER_02]: Careful, careful.
38:25 --> 38:26 [SPEAKER_02]: We see.
38:26 --> 38:28 [SPEAKER_00]: They don't want to see you don't want to spoil my book vigilance.
38:28 --> 38:30 [SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, no.
38:30 --> 38:40 [SPEAKER_02]: We see the two older white dudes read Bernie and Matt Craven standing outside in front of a white fence at night contemplating something off screen.
38:40 --> 38:44 [SPEAKER_02]: And I'll just say book readers, if you're thinking the same thing about who those characters might be.
38:45 --> 38:45 [SPEAKER_02]: I'll just say,
38:45 --> 38:49 [SPEAKER_02]: It looks to me like the guy on the right who I think is Matt Craven.
38:49 --> 38:53 [SPEAKER_02]: I think he looks kinder and satter, just going to say that.
38:53 --> 38:56 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, you love doing this, don't you?
38:56 --> 38:59 [SPEAKER_02]: You're just going to leave me like a little crazy.
38:59 --> 39:02 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying to throw bones to the book readers, too.
39:02 --> 39:07 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm so excited to about about these castings because I think they nailed them all.
39:08 --> 39:21 [SPEAKER_02]: Because especially we see Jessica Brown Finley, as I said in an Air Force jacket and cap, she's crossing the street in Washington, DC in what, I mean, I think we can say what looks like our world.
39:22 --> 39:23 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
39:23 --> 39:29 [SPEAKER_02]: And then we see, as I said, those other two images of an older woman with red hair, they'll be Laura.
39:29 --> 39:40 [SPEAKER_02]: Inists in front of an American flag, and a younger woman, a more of her and Christy, buttoned up, but slightly more casual, and seems to be standing in the same room as the photo with Laura.
39:40 --> 39:40 [SPEAKER_02]: Inists.
39:42 --> 39:46 [SPEAKER_02]: So Luke, what's your speculation based on the images?
39:47 --> 40:16 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't really have like a coherent speculation, I think I'm going to be really interested to see how particularly in our time, like in temporary time, like how all these new characters interact with each other.
40:17 --> 40:36 [SPEAKER_00]: you know what what's coming on because when they did that cut in the last episode of season two I don't know if listeners remember but I I'd injured my shoulders or I'd just come out a hospital and I was on like a lot of pain killers and when they did that fit it's just like whoa
40:36 --> 40:42 [SPEAKER_00]: This is gone to wait, this is gone to wait, this is gone to a weird place in the other second.
40:43 --> 40:54 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, so yeah, I'm just, I'm really interested to see like what's going on in the, in the alternative contemporary world if I can call it that.
40:55 --> 40:55 [SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
40:55 --> 40:56 [SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
40:57 --> 41:09 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I will say I shared some more speculation on the Discord in we have a silo forum under Shows and Worlds.
41:10 --> 41:25 [SPEAKER_02]: And in the general chat for silo, I shared, you know, basically these descriptions of these photos and a link to the photos, but in the book's boilers chat,
41:26 --> 41:27 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know.
41:28 --> 41:34 [SPEAKER_00]: I have to bite my tongue before saying anything more, but I'm Yeah, don't don't don't don't don't don't don't stuff over the line, Alicia.
41:34 --> 41:35 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm super excited.
41:35 --> 41:46 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, I can't wait to see people's, I can't wait to see how it plays out because I'm sure they're already hinting at differences, but I think.
41:46 --> 41:48 [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's going to be mostly the same, but I don't know.
41:48 --> 42:05 [SPEAKER_02]: There's always this book reader panic where there's a lot of misdirects in this story and then it's like everyone's like, they changed everything, they changed the core thing and I don't, I think at this point that they have
42:05 --> 42:12 [SPEAKER_02]: that they are sticking closer to the book, but it just will see different scenes from people's lives, and we might see in the books, you know?
42:13 --> 42:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, as the non-book reader, I'm just really, really stoked to know that they've already finished filming season four.
42:22 --> 42:22 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
42:22 --> 42:27 [SPEAKER_00]: Because there would be nothing worse than getting to the end of season three, and it not being renewed.
42:28 --> 42:32 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I need to know the end of the story.
42:32 --> 42:37 [SPEAKER_00]: And I feel so much better knowing that I will get the, they will get to the end.
42:39 --> 42:39 [SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
42:39 --> 42:39 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
42:39 --> 42:39 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
42:39 --> 42:42 [SPEAKER_00]: Because of the, like, how do I not know?
42:42 --> 42:46 [SPEAKER_00]: I would be having real Netflix anxieties.
42:47 --> 42:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
42:47 --> 42:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Because Netflix just kills a routine kill.
42:50 --> 42:51 [SPEAKER_00]: I appreciate it.
42:51 --> 42:53 [SPEAKER_00]: I like before it ends.
42:53 --> 43:06 [SPEAKER_02]: And I, I trust them as a book reader, I trust them because for example, you know, that what you saw at the end of season two is not a scene from the book, but it fits in exactly.
43:06 --> 43:07 [SPEAKER_02]: I know where it fits.
43:07 --> 43:08 [SPEAKER_02]: I know who these people are.
43:08 --> 43:10 [SPEAKER_02]: I know what's happening here.
43:10 --> 43:18 [SPEAKER_02]: Even though it is a new direction, which I think is making make Helen a better character than she is in the book to be quite honest.
43:19 --> 43:21 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
43:21 --> 43:21 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
43:22 --> 43:22 [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
43:23 --> 43:26 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's that is our discussion and speculation.
43:26 --> 43:37 [SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, if we get more trailers and information, we'll be back to talk about those as well and do expect full weekly coverage.
43:38 --> 43:41 [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to see about getting screeners so we can release it same day.
43:41 --> 43:44 [SPEAKER_02]: And also.
43:44 --> 43:44 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know.
43:44 --> 43:47 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to feel like we're big and important.
43:47 --> 43:48 [SPEAKER_02]: That's not my point.
43:50 --> 43:52 [SPEAKER_02]: I just want to be able to release it done the same day.
43:52 --> 43:54 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, certainly my point.
43:54 --> 43:56 [SPEAKER_00]: I want to feel like a big deal.
43:57 --> 43:59 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, I'm like, don't perceive me.
43:59 --> 44:09 [SPEAKER_02]: No, but I also expect weekly extras again in the subscribers feed with a season pass option if you'd prefer that.
44:09 --> 44:19 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, so more on that as we get closer to July, uh, next step of course with Luke and I on this feed is Dune, the novel part one B.
44:20 --> 44:21 [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, right.
44:22 --> 44:27 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we have to we have to schedule that in around our their devil punish her stuff.
44:27 --> 44:30 [SPEAKER_02]: So, uh, we'll figure that out in the near future.
44:30 --> 44:39 [SPEAKER_02]: And thank you also to our new Silasins since our last silo coverage, Eleanor Mark Silpala, that I say it correctly.
44:39 --> 44:45 [SPEAKER_02]: And Natty and our new stories in Rocky Zim, thank you and welcome to the fold.
44:46 --> 44:53 [SPEAKER_02]: You can catch up on my and Abby's full book spoiler conversations with Deep Lord Dives in the subscriber feeds.
44:53 --> 45:01 [SPEAKER_02]: And there's also the holiday specials and getting into extra doon prequel books coverage and Hugh Hallies other short stories.
45:02 --> 45:05 [SPEAKER_02]: So watch out for that to come to that feed as well soon.
45:06 --> 45:11 [SPEAKER_02]: Luke, you said that there's going to be a new, yeah, there could be, there we knew it could be said.
45:11 --> 45:22 [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to do a very massive review of the sort of local one developed elections that took place in the UK last Thursday.
45:23 --> 45:25 [SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, they were up.
45:25 --> 45:27 [SPEAKER_00]: a stunning set of election results.
45:27 --> 45:31 [SPEAKER_00]: So me and Simon and Will are going to go full psychology.
45:31 --> 45:33 [SPEAKER_00]: No, for that.
45:33 --> 45:35 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure when that will be.
45:35 --> 45:42 [SPEAKER_00]: I thought it would be this weekend, but maybe not because Will forgot his parents if there's a thing.
45:42 --> 45:42 [SPEAKER_00]: So.
45:42 --> 45:43 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
45:43 --> 45:43 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
45:43 --> 45:45 [SPEAKER_00]: Possibly some time next week.
45:45 --> 45:48 [SPEAKER_02]: so much to discuss and coming soon to that feed.
45:48 --> 45:51 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, and you can find that linked in the share notes, of course.
45:51 --> 46:06 [SPEAKER_02]: Also, as we teased on the lower-hounds feed, you Jean and I have been doing Daredevil born again coverage and there will be next week Punisher last kill coverage for the new specialist coming out.
46:07 --> 46:15 [SPEAKER_02]: um is young and David and Brian just wrapped up mall, shadow lord coverage there with me dropping in with some lore bombs.
46:15 --> 46:22 [SPEAKER_00]: Conjure said it was among the five best pieces of Star Wars media, which is a bold claim.
46:22 --> 46:22 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
46:22 --> 46:23 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
46:23 --> 46:23 [SPEAKER_00]: Have you seen it yet?
46:24 --> 46:25 [SPEAKER_00]: No, but I'm going to have to now.
46:26 --> 46:26 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to have to now.
46:26 --> 46:28 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to have to.
46:28 --> 46:28 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
46:28 --> 46:34 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I'll just say if you like cool city lightsaber fights, then buckle up.
46:34 --> 46:35 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
46:35 --> 46:44 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, and also, yeah, this is going to be projectile, Mary coverage coming out right after that that drops that film is released on digital on the 12th.
46:45 --> 46:50 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, and there's also going to be a widow's peak meet season check in the week after that.
46:50 --> 46:52 [SPEAKER_02]: And then June is going to be even more busy.
46:52 --> 47:03 [SPEAKER_02]: So do also though, make time to check out our affiliates like radioactive ramlings covering invincible and the boys never mind the music where music meets psychology.
47:03 --> 47:13 [SPEAKER_02]: properly Howard, I think they're close to wrapping up their newly wed season where they're watching movies and one of them hasn't seen before.
47:13 --> 47:25 [SPEAKER_02]: It's been a quite eclectic bunch, and also my own The Star Wars canon timeline podcast where I've been really seeing subscriber episodes, but there is new public episodes coming soon.
47:25 --> 47:27 [SPEAKER_02]: Luke, any final thoughts from you?
47:27 --> 47:31 [SPEAKER_02]: No, just calm white till July the third.
47:31 --> 47:41 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, well then on that note, see you soon for more silo talk, more doont talk in the meantime and just remember the algorithm is always watching.
47:41 --> 47:43 [SPEAKER_00]: Unfortunately it is.