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00:19 --> 00:31 [SPEAKER_01]: Hey folks, see why I continue our coverage of 97 Kingdoms with Listener feedback, as always you can connect with us by way of cocoons of horror at gmail.com.
00:32 --> 00:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Then after that we talk about our next season of Properly Howard, which is called the Nulu Wed pod, and we'll talk about that.
00:41 --> 00:47 [SPEAKER_01]: In the second half of this podcast, all right, without further ado, here is your friend in mine, Steve Osborne.
00:49 --> 00:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Steve, we got some feedback for Night of the Seven Kingdoms.
00:53 --> 00:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Some of it is, you know, sure related, some of it is just kind of...
00:57 --> 01:02 [SPEAKER_01]: A little bit critical of me, which is fine, you'll enjoy it either way.
01:02 --> 01:03 [SPEAKER_01]: This is from Abby.
01:04 --> 01:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Egg is really enjoying himself.
01:05 --> 01:08 [SPEAKER_01]: The last conversation with Dunk was very touching.
01:08 --> 01:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Please podcast, there's talk about that, or the new characters being introduced, or how they treat people.
01:14 --> 01:19 [SPEAKER_01]: There's plenty more stuff important to the story to talk about.
01:19 --> 01:32 [SPEAKER_01]: I kind of feel like this is sort of aimed at the last time when I suggested that Arlen's member was the only interesting thing about the episode.
01:32 --> 01:33 [SPEAKER_01]: I have watched the episode again.
01:33 --> 01:35 [SPEAKER_01]: I do find it interesting.
01:35 --> 01:36 [SPEAKER_01]: I enjoyed myself.
01:36 --> 01:39 [SPEAKER_01]: It just it did feel like I set up episode.
01:40 --> 01:42 [SPEAKER_01]: See, I feel like the first one set up for this.
01:45 --> 01:56 [SPEAKER_01]: There was a lot in this episode that I liked and yet I did feel like I heard a couple people say This feels like it should have been one episode.
01:56 --> 02:06 [SPEAKER_01]: They should have taken the first two the 40-minute episode in the 30-minute episode They should have made it into a single episode or released both of them at the same time
02:06 --> 02:16 [SPEAKER_01]: because I don't think that there's enough meat on the bone in these two episodes to warrant splitting it up into two smaller episodes.
02:16 --> 02:20 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, this is the trick with this particular part of the novella, right?
02:22 --> 02:30 [SPEAKER_02]: It's sort of like, you know, when, yeah, your Lord of the Rings movies, like, you know, it was like it's three even enough and so you have these director's cuts.
02:31 --> 02:33 [SPEAKER_02]: I give you more, but still not all of it, right?
02:34 --> 02:36 [SPEAKER_02]: But then they're like, oh, but we're going to do the same thing with the Hobbit.
02:36 --> 02:41 [SPEAKER_01]: And you're like, sure about that.
02:41 --> 02:50 [SPEAKER_01]: I think there's certain virtue in establishing the world for folks who are not into Game of Thrones or resetting the world for people who are interested in Game of Thrones.
02:50 --> 02:52 [SPEAKER_02]: Especially when I get down, right?
02:52 --> 03:01 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think that that's important, because I think I had a hard, it was a tone shift for me that was maybe a little bit hard in the first part.
03:01 --> 03:31 [SPEAKER_02]: of the first watch of the first episode and then um and about time I'd settled in I'm like just everything about the second episode for some reason just really scratched my edge for this particular show now you couldn't make an argument to some degree that this would have been yeah this this could have you'd add a couple of elements from the first episode into this and and you probably come out the gate cooking right um and so so I think that is a reasonable
03:32 --> 03:37 [SPEAKER_02]: the aspects of the first episode that I liked, you know, they tended to be towards the end.
03:37 --> 03:37 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
03:38 --> 03:50 [SPEAKER_02]: And you, if you just sort of keep that train rolling with this, like so that for me is like to me the second episode was carrying over my favorite parts of the first episode, which was towards the towards the end of it.
03:50 --> 03:53 [SPEAKER_02]: So, so I do see that, that does make some sense.
03:54 --> 03:58 [SPEAKER_02]: But part of my enjoyment of the second one is helping me
03:59 --> 04:04 [SPEAKER_02]: appreciate some of the stuff that was set up in the first one that I didn't necessarily love or didn't drive with me.
04:04 --> 04:12 [SPEAKER_02]: I kind of forgive maybe how it was presented and see it's value now that I've watched the second episode.
04:12 --> 04:22 [SPEAKER_01]: So now that we live in the era of streaming, there's going to be two functionally different kinds of viewing experiences.
04:22 --> 04:27 [SPEAKER_01]: There's going to be the folks who were tuning in week to week, like us.
04:27 --> 04:36 [SPEAKER_01]: And then there's going to be the folks who tune in five weeks later and for all time after that when they can just binge watch the thing.
04:37 --> 04:40 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I got a buddy who's like, yeah, just waiting for it all so I can just
04:41 --> 04:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that your buddy will have a significantly different experience than we did, and I think it'll probably be better.
04:52 --> 04:58 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that this is one of those shows where, you know, of course, I wouldn't like it because I have to podcast about it.
04:59 --> 05:06 [SPEAKER_01]: But I think that the folks who are going to binge watch this show will enjoy it significantly better than everyone else.
05:07 --> 05:09 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I have two data points.
05:09 --> 05:10 [SPEAKER_02]: I think that help.
05:10 --> 05:10 [SPEAKER_02]: that.
05:10 --> 05:24 [SPEAKER_02]: And again, there's just two out of, you know, millions of people know where, but I like to the ending of game with or I appreciate the ending of game with their own more so than just about anybody I know that watched it real time.
05:24 --> 05:25 [SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
05:25 --> 05:26 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
05:26 --> 05:29 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think some of that was because I didn't have and we talked about this at length is.
05:30 --> 05:58 [SPEAKER_02]: is years to theory craft and and drive each other nuts right every bit of theory crafting sets a new expectation right of awesomeness right because someone's going to come up with something that's really awesome and now you're measuring everything against that friend of mine just said he binge watched all of stranger things having never seen any of it and was just he's all I'm in tears at the end it was just wonderful everything was fantastic
05:58 --> 06:07 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it was the perfect ending to go with the perfect show and all this and I'm like, yeah, that was your Game of Thrones experience.
06:07 --> 06:07 [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
06:07 --> 06:17 [SPEAKER_02]: And so, and I kind of, it's kind of how I felt though what we're watching strength of things again, like, because we did do a pretty decent rewatch up until that.
06:17 --> 06:24 [SPEAKER_02]: And so it did kind of remind me that, like, look, I'm expecting something out of a show.
06:25 --> 06:27 [SPEAKER_02]: That's that I'm these my expectations.
06:27 --> 06:40 [SPEAKER_02]: This is something that I'm inserting based on well because of my game of thrones breaking bad better call Saul all these other experiences like I'm like well this better like I'm I'm trying to try to make it something that it never claimed to be.
06:42 --> 06:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, and if you are binge watching, I'm sure that there are people who are pausing between episodes and like poking around online before they go to the next one, but I think most people will just press next.
06:52 --> 06:57 [SPEAKER_01]: And especially if the show is like 40 minutes long, you're probably just gonna press next.
06:57 --> 07:05 [SPEAKER_01]: All of that time that would be reserved for expectations are reduced significantly.
07:05 --> 07:08 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I would also say with this particular show,
07:08 --> 07:12 [SPEAKER_02]: based on the fact that I've actually read a book for once and I'm following up.
07:12 --> 07:25 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know that this is gonna have a whole lot of, the way it's designed and structured, I don't know that there's gonna be a lot of like, ooh, what, I don't know, like I already have, we're not doing any spoilers on this, right?
07:25 --> 07:30 [SPEAKER_01]: I think we could probably wait, do spoilers and maybe 10 minutes or so and give people a chance to jump out.
07:30 --> 07:37 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because I already see people that I know on Facebook theorizing some things that I'm like, mm-hmm.
07:37 --> 07:45 [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm a little envious because because I know some of the things that that I know where this goes, right?
07:45 --> 07:49 [SPEAKER_02]: And so when people are like theorizing, I'm like, oh, that would be fun to do.
07:50 --> 07:58 [SPEAKER_02]: And so it's an interesting experience for me because how much I love the written word.
08:00 --> 08:05 [SPEAKER_02]: To have that, you know, to actually have that in my back pocket and to be watching something that's like,
08:06 --> 08:07 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, oh, this is, this is that.
08:07 --> 08:08 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
08:08 --> 08:12 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, this is I'm watching this happen and I have a
08:13 --> 08:16 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, so I'm appreciating seeing these things come to life.
08:16 --> 08:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, look, I'm always amazed for anyone who's poking around our line that everything isn't spoiled all of the time, right?
08:25 --> 08:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, so, I mean, it's not that big of an issue for me because I don't do any kind of social media or whatever, but I will say this, it doesn't stop my wife and my son and my daughter from sending me memes that they've seen online.
08:42 --> 08:53 [SPEAKER_01]: sure and so if for me it's like either I'm seeing the best or the very worst of their Instagram feed and every now and again my daughter will send me something that it relates to a show we're both watching.
08:54 --> 09:03 [SPEAKER_02]: It's you're lucky you're not on social media because you would be getting so many vomit videos from me.
09:03 --> 09:08 [SPEAKER_02]: My algorithm is mostly vomit and cringy church activity.
09:09 --> 09:12 [SPEAKER_01]: do these things ever overlap?
09:13 --> 09:14 [SPEAKER_01]: If one gets the other.
09:14 --> 09:20 [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of lot of extra systems that lead to green vomit.
09:21 --> 09:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, all right.
09:22 --> 09:29 [SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, Abby, look, I'm sorry that we talked so much about the large Arlin member.
09:29 --> 09:36 [SPEAKER_01]: And we should have definitely spent more time to talk about the characterization of Dunkin Egg, which we didn't do now either.
09:37 --> 09:38 [SPEAKER_01]: So a second apologies.
09:38 --> 09:48 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah, willing in the deep dive that I was a part of sort of because I don't know how much of my audio was edited out because there was a
09:48 --> 09:51 [SPEAKER_02]: a wood shipper going on in the background of my home.
09:52 --> 10:00 [SPEAKER_02]: And the, you know, we did try to, you know, put our member to rest.
10:00 --> 10:05 [SPEAKER_02]: And I want to think that I brought up was that like, it's, that's two episodes in the beginning.
10:06 --> 10:16 [SPEAKER_02]: We're, we're, we're, they're sort of a shock value kind of soft moric humorous element that sort of becomes the talking point.
10:16 --> 10:17 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
10:18 --> 10:23 [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm hoping that that's not like going to be the norm.
10:23 --> 10:24 [SPEAKER_02]: Is this a pattern?
10:25 --> 10:25 [SPEAKER_02]: Is this a pattern?
10:26 --> 10:39 [SPEAKER_02]: And then our people expecting it or people looking for you know, and so I do feel that I guess I'm kind of with the like, yeah, we're talking about it.
10:39 --> 10:43 [SPEAKER_02]: And it's what, like when I started to look up like maybe some,
10:44 --> 11:05 [SPEAKER_02]: Some critiques or some synopsis or some other conversations online about it like so many of the headlines were all around that sequence and it's like I'm a little it's I'm a little bother to buy the show runners in that regard is that like
11:05 --> 11:06 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's the talking point.
11:07 --> 11:10 [SPEAKER_02]: You got a pretty decent little show cooking here, but we're talking about that.
11:10 --> 11:12 [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm curious, it's a very curious choice.
11:13 --> 11:18 [SPEAKER_01]: So this leads to the next listener feedback.
11:18 --> 11:20 [SPEAKER_01]: This is from TCS.
11:21 --> 11:27 [SPEAKER_01]: I have a friend speculating that maybe each episode will open with, shall I say a memorable moment?
11:27 --> 11:31 [SPEAKER_01]: If so, I can't even imagine what else is heading our way.
11:32 --> 11:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah, if it is a pattern and people start to look forward to it, just to bring in sort of a different level of talking point, I don't think it's a bad thing.
11:44 --> 11:58 [SPEAKER_01]: You don't think you don't think it undercuts your, like now you're, I don't know, it's like it's an interesting game undercuts is an interesting way to frame it because I feel like you're just adding an additional level of conversation to it.
11:58 --> 12:05 [SPEAKER_02]: The first, the first feedback we got was saying hey, you guys talked about this instead of that and then that is the whole story.
12:06 --> 12:07 [SPEAKER_01]: It was a divisive issue.
12:08 --> 12:11 [SPEAKER_01]: It got, it got some people really grossed out.
12:11 --> 12:14 [SPEAKER_01]: It got people like you very giddy.
12:14 --> 12:20 [SPEAKER_01]: And it was something to talk about in an episode that was very much a set up episode.
12:23 --> 12:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Here's the thing about it that I like.
12:25 --> 12:29 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not, you know, I'm not a huge fan of are we talking about poops or penises at this point?
12:29 --> 12:31 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to talk about both the same time.
12:32 --> 12:35 [SPEAKER_01]: One biggest deal.
12:36 --> 12:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Every now and again, Game of Thrones will remind you, like, I says a distant place, it's an alternate timeline.
12:43 --> 12:45 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, this is a world of magic.
12:46 --> 12:48 [SPEAKER_01]: You cannot relate to many of these experiences.
12:49 --> 12:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Here's something that's common to the human experience that we're not talking about.
12:54 --> 12:59 [SPEAKER_01]: And so it will bring in something like Exposive Diaria or a giant penis.
13:00 --> 13:05 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, one of those is a little bit more, it's more closer to home than the other for me.
13:07 --> 13:10 [SPEAKER_01]: One of these things is a daily experience.
13:10 --> 13:12 [SPEAKER_01]: The other just happens when you're dreaming.
13:12 --> 13:13 [SPEAKER_01]: The other one's just a drawing.
13:13 --> 13:21 [SPEAKER_01]: I do like every now and again when Game of Thrones kind of brings up this issue.
13:22 --> 13:26 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah, this is alien from your world.
13:26 --> 13:30 [SPEAKER_01]: And yet, this is something common to the human experience.
13:30 --> 13:32 [SPEAKER_01]: And you can relate to this.
13:33 --> 13:42 [SPEAKER_01]: And so I don't know, I mean, I like, I like it when the show does that kind of thing, and I don't know if every episode needs one of these things at the beginning.
13:42 --> 13:48 [SPEAKER_02]: I do like you came out the game with a twice and so we now just feels weird if you don't.
13:49 --> 13:50 [SPEAKER_02]: but I'd prefer they don't.
13:50 --> 13:58 [SPEAKER_01]: It could be, it could be, or it could be like, we know things are gonna ramp up and the plot is really gonna carry this thing going forward.
13:58 --> 13:59 [SPEAKER_01]: These are two setup episodes.
14:00 --> 14:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's give them something to talk about.
14:02 --> 14:03 [SPEAKER_01]: That could be it, it could be it.
14:04 --> 14:05 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, and that's why I mentioned the undercuts.
14:05 --> 14:07 [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, well, let's give them something to talk about.
14:07 --> 14:09 [SPEAKER_02]: So we'll trust your story, trust your narrative.
14:10 --> 14:19 [SPEAKER_02]: If you don't think that this story is worth discussing without a couple of, like, the gimmicky moments,
14:19 --> 14:21 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, then is this even, is this worth watching?
14:21 --> 14:23 [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't know, that's, that's a take.
14:23 --> 14:46 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think maybe, for me, is if you, because of where they were placed, if you have one happen later in an episode for whatever reason, maybe it doesn't, it doesn't matter so much to me, or it doesn't, it doesn't, not what's the earth, but like at least give me some pause is because like, you've, each one is like sort of in the beginning, right?
14:46 --> 14:47 [SPEAKER_02]: Like right is the thing takes off.
14:48 --> 14:51 [SPEAKER_01]: For the record, you've enjoyed both of these experiences.
14:52 --> 14:54 [SPEAKER_01]: You're just kind of playing devil's advocate.
14:54 --> 15:03 [SPEAKER_02]: It sounds like, yes, yeah, but I mean, I do have a concern that this is just going to be like, what was just said, like, is this going to be like, what's the next level?
15:03 --> 15:05 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, does it like, are they going to try to outdo each one?
15:05 --> 15:08 [SPEAKER_02]: And what's it going to be, and I mean, that I don't know.
15:09 --> 15:11 [SPEAKER_02]: But it is, they are both more whimsical.
15:11 --> 15:14 [SPEAKER_02]: And I do think it does set more of that tone.
15:14 --> 15:20 [SPEAKER_02]: Whereas if you look at like some of the opening sequences of episodes of like House of the Dragon, like they could be pretty upsetting.
15:21 --> 15:27 [SPEAKER_01]: So I would rather see what I've seen so far than someone being castrated, I'll say that.
15:28 --> 15:29 [SPEAKER_01]: OK, well, that's a bar.
15:29 --> 15:34 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that was episode one of House of the Dragon.
15:35 --> 15:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, a guy getting castrated.
15:37 --> 15:42 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, this leads to the next question or the next comment that's from Harry.
15:43 --> 15:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Dix and Skat aside, the wholesome vibe of this show is very much appreciated in these times.
15:50 --> 15:50 [SPEAKER_01]: A couple of things about this.
15:51 --> 15:54 [SPEAKER_01]: I've enjoyed the Dix and Skat, however.
15:55 --> 15:57 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that this might be a mistake.
15:59 --> 16:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Plain vials, my own devil's advocate here, but I think this could very easily be a very family friendly show.
16:07 --> 16:08 [SPEAKER_01]: In which case,
16:09 --> 16:13 [SPEAKER_01]: you could possibly bring in bigger numbers to this property.
16:14 --> 16:18 [SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, I'm a father of, you know, adult children.
16:18 --> 16:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, I mean, kind of, you have a revelation on this podcast.
16:26 --> 16:35 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, look, in terms of like the age of these people, they are quote unquote adults.
16:35 --> 16:38 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I thought maybe you were questioning whether or not you were the sire.
16:42 --> 16:43 [SPEAKER_02]: I've never been convinced.
16:44 --> 16:44 [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
16:44 --> 16:48 [SPEAKER_01]: So I was never there during conception as far as I ever thought.
16:51 --> 16:55 [SPEAKER_01]: There's a certain age of your life where
16:56 --> 17:18 [SPEAKER_01]: your TV view and experience is kind of limited by what your kids can watch and unless you really like a show you wait till they go to sleep and maybe you're too exhausted to finish it or something like that but there are there are there were times in my life where my media consumption was absolutely dictated by what my kids were interested in watching and
17:18 --> 17:27 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that this show didn't need this extra level of grossness.
17:28 --> 17:31 [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't think it really needs the nudity in the brothel either.
17:32 --> 17:35 [SPEAKER_01]: I just think that the show could easily work without all of that.
17:36 --> 17:39 [SPEAKER_01]: And be very PG-13.
17:39 --> 17:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I think this this story is firmly PG-13 and and because it's HBO, it wanted to make it more arrayed and I don't think that that's not necessarily a virtue.
17:52 --> 17:56 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's the this is this one feels more HBO-ified, right?
17:56 --> 18:06 [SPEAKER_02]: Like like it with the game of thrones and again, not having read the books, but everything I understand suggest that
18:06 --> 18:30 [SPEAKER_02]: HBO was a good landing spot for this story because of what you can show you can't tell that story without it being a mature rating right and so then could have told this story yeah so this one feels like well we're on HBO there's an expectation for the HBO viewer that it's gonna go this route and so it almost feels like now you're catering not so much to the
18:31 --> 18:50 [SPEAKER_02]: fan per se, but maybe the HBO slash martin fan, like this is what you this is what you've come to expect with this property, which is interesting because I mean obviously in in in house of the dragon, there are some there are some graphic nudity and such, but it did not as sexualized is as game of thrones.
18:51 --> 18:56 [SPEAKER_02]: So it is an interesting take, I mean, I would not say that that's PG 13 in any sense, but
18:57 --> 18:59 [SPEAKER_02]: This one could have easily, in my opinion.
18:59 --> 19:05 [SPEAKER_02]: And I was actually, my expectation was that it was just going to not, um, yeah, me too.
19:05 --> 19:08 [SPEAKER_02]: But there are a lot of, like, I meant that this is not new to HBO.
19:08 --> 19:11 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I mean, as a young kid, I remember going, oh, this is a fun show on HBO.
19:12 --> 19:13 [SPEAKER_02]: And the good news is boobs.
19:16 --> 19:27 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, look, it could be that they have experts in, you know, wearing suits and they've got data to prove it and they've got big experts wearing suits.
19:27 --> 19:28 [SPEAKER_01]: I like this.
19:28 --> 19:37 [SPEAKER_01]: TV, executive titles, and they've decided that the three things that made Game of Thrones its success was boobs and dragons.
19:37 --> 19:40 [SPEAKER_01]: and then to a lesser extent political intrigue.
19:40 --> 19:42 [SPEAKER_01]: And so they thought, well, let's do house of the dragon.
19:42 --> 19:50 [SPEAKER_01]: And let's make it heavy on the nudity and the dragons and bring in some political intrigue too.
19:51 --> 19:58 [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't think that that's necessarily what made Game of Thrones successful, or at least that's not why I came to Game of Thrones.
19:58 --> 20:01 [SPEAKER_02]: Right, I mean, you could have test audiences that suggest otherwise.
20:01 --> 20:03 [SPEAKER_02]: However, they could also just be one of those things like, look,
20:03 --> 20:09 [SPEAKER_02]: We know this word, we're not going to fuss with the formula in case that's the issue.
20:09 --> 20:13 [SPEAKER_02]: It could just be weirdly plain and safe by plain and edgy.
20:14 --> 20:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
20:14 --> 20:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Our brand is boobs and dragons.
20:16 --> 20:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's make sure that there's enough boobs and dragons in this show to get people on board.
20:22 --> 20:30 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think if not at seven kingdoms has success, I think that that might be proof to the opposite.
20:30 --> 20:39 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but it could create a new situation that goes, okay, well, we haven't had a diary a scene in a couple episodes, so we got to make sure.
20:39 --> 20:39 [SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
20:40 --> 20:45 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, look, I would be just as fine with just, you know, painful constipation.
20:45 --> 20:47 [SPEAKER_01]: There's, there's a lot of direction.
20:47 --> 20:48 [SPEAKER_01]: There's nuance too.
20:48 --> 20:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you just, you just want, you want a bowel movement.
20:50 --> 20:51 [SPEAKER_01]: You don't care how quick.
20:53 --> 20:58 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, so we're going to get to the show.
20:58 --> 21:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Our next segment is going to look forward to the next season of property Howard where we cover films.
21:05 --> 21:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Before that, we're going to do a commercial break before that, we're going to do a spoiler question.
21:12 --> 21:17 [SPEAKER_01]: So if you don't want to hear a spoiler question, then maybe jump forward about five minutes.
21:19 --> 21:21 [SPEAKER_01]: This is from Josh.
21:21 --> 21:26 [SPEAKER_01]: This might be a spoilery question, as it may hint toward Dung's future.
21:27 --> 21:33 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you think that the writers deliberately made Sir Donald of Desk and Dale the son of a very wealthy Krabber?
21:35 --> 21:39 [SPEAKER_01]: So that some viewers might make a connection to Sir Davos C.worth.
21:40 --> 21:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, but Throne's noted that Davos was the son of a Krabber himself.
21:44 --> 21:47 [SPEAKER_01]: And we know about his life's upward trajectory.
21:48 --> 21:52 [SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was an interesting choice, given eggs undercutting of Dung's hopes.
21:54 --> 22:00 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, it's interesting that we get that detail about Sardonl.
22:01 --> 22:08 [SPEAKER_01]: But I think that there is some kind of question about whether or not he actually was from modest beginnings in this show.
22:09 --> 22:14 [SPEAKER_01]: you know, so he's sent of a crab or that makes him sound modest, right?
22:14 --> 22:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
22:16 --> 22:23 [SPEAKER_01]: But we'll later find out from Egg, who has his pulse on the fishing industry.
22:23 --> 22:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Like the fish.
22:26 --> 22:33 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's a son of a crab or entitled in reality, he's a nettle baby.
22:34 --> 22:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
22:34 --> 22:36 [SPEAKER_01]: He comes from crab money, yeah.
22:36 --> 22:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Where's Davos actually does have a ragster, which is kind of story, you know, he's a smuggler, he's the son of a crab, or he eventually does become a knight unexpectedly.
22:51 --> 23:03 [SPEAKER_01]: And it could be that that's kind of dunks trajectory, you know, it could be he feels upwards, or he shows a bit of daring due, and someone wants to, you know, give them a hold fast, eventually.
23:03 --> 23:04 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
23:05 --> 23:08 [SPEAKER_01]: It's it's possible that they had Davos in mind.
23:08 --> 23:09 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if that.
23:10 --> 23:17 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if it's necessary to have that sort of as a conscious homage to make it work.
23:17 --> 23:18 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you have any thoughts on this?
23:19 --> 23:21 [SPEAKER_02]: No.
23:21 --> 23:22 [SPEAKER_02]: Have you ever gone crabbing?
23:22 --> 23:31 [SPEAKER_02]: You know I haven't, but apparent, so our my brother-in-law and your good friend has been crabbing as of late.
23:32 --> 23:33 [SPEAKER_02]: and it's brought me, invited me.
23:34 --> 23:44 [SPEAKER_02]: I was thinking about coming out, yeah, and then another friend of mine was to go grab me and it's like, and I'm like, why would I need to grab?
23:44 --> 23:51 [SPEAKER_02]: I understand, you could teach your man to grab and feed him for a lifetime, but also give me grab.
23:51 --> 23:54 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't need to eat grab for like that.
23:55 --> 24:04 [SPEAKER_01]: I like crap and I like the idea of crabbing and I like the idea of going and not being an expert and having someone say, this is what you do.
24:05 --> 24:11 [SPEAKER_01]: And then, you know, my successor failure doesn't really, it doesn't really make or break the experience.
24:11 --> 24:18 [SPEAKER_01]: I like the idea of being near water and, you know, catching little guys and maybe eating a few of them.
24:18 --> 24:22 [SPEAKER_01]: I like that entire idea, but
24:24 --> 24:26 [SPEAKER_01]: No, no buts at all.
24:26 --> 24:27 [SPEAKER_01]: No buts at all.
24:27 --> 24:27 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm into it.
24:28 --> 24:31 [SPEAKER_01]: I think I might be coming out to do some crab in me.
24:31 --> 24:33 [SPEAKER_02]: I could crab.
24:33 --> 24:40 [SPEAKER_02]: I also really like it when animal names are used as verbs, fantastic.
24:42 --> 24:45 [SPEAKER_02]: I used to get a baloney, and that I enjoyed quite a bit.
24:46 --> 24:49 [SPEAKER_02]: But what do you call it when you're abalone?
24:49 --> 24:49 [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
24:49 --> 24:54 [SPEAKER_02]: You don't abalone.
24:55 --> 25:24 [SPEAKER_02]: uh... uh... but uh... but uh... but there were and and i'm notoriously uh... lukewarm on the ocean uh... but uh... there was a particular afternoon where i went out alone not recommended but it was a very low tide and i was being very responsible and i i was out there and it was a point where i was in the wetsuit and it was not quite dusk but it was definitely getting uh... to be a seepia uh... huge
25:25 --> 25:35 [SPEAKER_02]: and the waves were very calm and I can see a sea lion barking off in the distance and I just sat and I was like, this is all right.
25:37 --> 25:40 [SPEAKER_02]: And I came on with no abalone, but I was better for it.
25:40 --> 25:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, that sounds fantastic.
25:43 --> 25:53 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that anything involving a wet suit is probably going
25:54 --> 26:03 [SPEAKER_01]: If I was shaped like the band of in-living color, then it'd be fine.
26:03 --> 26:09 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't like the idea that part of me is going to be zipped up and held in place.
26:11 --> 26:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Why?
26:11 --> 26:14 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, man.
26:14 --> 26:16 [SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't feel like a girdle.
26:17 --> 26:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Look, man, I'm not a great bender.
26:21 --> 26:22 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't bend very well.
26:22 --> 26:29 [SPEAKER_01]: I can just imagine being in a situation where I can't bend even more than I couldn't before.
26:30 --> 26:35 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, you get one that fits, try that out, no.
26:35 --> 26:38 [SPEAKER_02]: And my father-in-law gave me a little hack.
26:38 --> 26:42 [SPEAKER_02]: I've never actually employed this hack, but it was really fun to see it in action.
26:42 --> 26:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, you put in Babywell on it?
26:45 --> 26:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Nailants.
26:46 --> 26:50 [SPEAKER_01]: nylon see this nylon sounds worse than a wetsuit.
26:52 --> 27:02 [SPEAKER_02]: You know what's worse than that is watching your father-in-law in nilons put on a wetsuit.
27:02 --> 27:05 [SPEAKER_02]: But then you immediately go, why was I ever intimidated by you?
27:07 --> 27:08 [SPEAKER_02]: Dr. Franken further.
27:12 --> 27:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Goodness.
27:14 --> 27:16 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I probably going to come out and do some crabbing.
27:16 --> 27:25 [SPEAKER_01]: I would love it if, you know, if you were interested, if there is a wet suit involved, I'll just, I'll know about.
27:25 --> 27:33 [SPEAKER_02]: There's going to be an absurd level of Quint Impressions, quite a way, if that's that.
27:33 --> 27:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Looking forward to that, sure.
27:36 --> 27:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Alright, so we're going to take a break and then we're going to talk about the next season of Properly Howard film review Steve, have you ever had a cramp while you were making wuppy?
27:55 --> 27:57 [SPEAKER_01]: uh, almost exclusively.
27:58 --> 27:59 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, be only down.
27:59 --> 28:03 [SPEAKER_02]: You get cramps when you're making pulpy.
28:03 --> 28:04 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah.
28:05 --> 28:10 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I get, I get, I get sometimes get cramps because I turn over in bed when I'm sleeping.
28:11 --> 28:13 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, I need more bananas, I think.
28:14 --> 28:18 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, maybe just incorporate more bananas.
28:18 --> 28:18 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
28:18 --> 28:21 [SPEAKER_02]: or just, or just learned to be aroused by cramps.
28:22 --> 28:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
28:48 --> 28:53 [SPEAKER_02]: Uh-huh, so I get the intent is to just make it worse for all parties involved.
28:58 --> 29:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Geez, so I asked that question specifically because I wanted to talk about the newlywed game.
29:05 --> 29:14 [SPEAKER_01]: I was kind of sheltered at a younger age and I couldn't watch things like threes company and cheers and things like that.
29:15 --> 29:29 [SPEAKER_01]: So any kind of adult talk around the bedroom experience was somewhat foreign to me, I kind of feel like my first sex I'd class was the newlywed game, right?
29:30 --> 29:31 [SPEAKER_01]: So I was somehow like okay, right?
29:31 --> 29:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Like it was, it was, it was very wholesome and because of daytime television regulations,
29:44 --> 29:48 [SPEAKER_01]: And so Bob U-Banks would often say that we're woopy.
29:49 --> 29:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
29:49 --> 29:52 [SPEAKER_01]: And for me, I just kind of felt like that's how adults talked.
29:54 --> 29:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
29:55 --> 29:56 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
29:56 --> 30:01 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it did sort of make me feel weird with the first time I heard about a woopy cushion.
30:02 --> 30:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was very confusing.
30:04 --> 30:07 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, because I was like, oh, I guess you fart during sex.
30:08 --> 30:09 [SPEAKER_02]: and turns out.
30:10 --> 30:12 [SPEAKER_01]: I can't.
30:12 --> 30:27 [SPEAKER_01]: So for folks who've never seen the newlywed game, the idea was that you'd bring on some newlyweds and you would separate them and you would get points as a couple if you could guess what your partner's answer was going to be.
30:28 --> 30:30 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, basically how well do you know
30:31 --> 30:32 [SPEAKER_01]: your new spouse.
30:33 --> 30:33 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
30:34 --> 30:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Famously, Bob, you banks, you know, ask the question.
30:37 --> 30:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Where specifically is the weirdest place that you personally girls have ever gotten the urge to make Wobby the weirdest place, Olga?
30:51 --> 30:51 [SPEAKER_00]: Um.
30:52 --> 31:00 [SPEAKER_00]: Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-
31:00 --> 31:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, for me, number one, I'm still not clear what goes into what be making.
31:07 --> 31:11 [SPEAKER_01]: And it's beeped out.
31:11 --> 31:16 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what the heck she said, because you're probably like, well, isn't it always in the butt?
31:24 --> 31:25 [SPEAKER_01]: That's where babies come from.
31:25 --> 31:31 [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm trying, you know, I'm trying to figure out how the world works, you know, with Bob you banks and instructions.
31:31 --> 31:36 [SPEAKER_02]: I love the idea that that Bob you banks is responsible for your first birds in the bees' lesson.
31:40 --> 31:43 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, look, you could earn points if you knew these things.
31:43 --> 31:49 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know about you, but as a kid, I would always imagine what how I would do on these game shows.
31:50 --> 31:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, sure.
31:51 --> 31:54 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, like, what I would I would be able to guess prices, right?
31:54 --> 31:58 [SPEAKER_01]: I was pretty sure I was not going to do well with prices, right?
31:59 --> 32:08 [SPEAKER_02]: Wheel of fortune, I always wanted to do because I felt like I would be good at the puzzle solving, but I was always very self-conscious that I wouldn't be able to spend the wheel all the way around.
32:09 --> 32:15 [SPEAKER_01]: For some folks, that wheel just looks like it's a feed of strength.
32:15 --> 32:21 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I feel like that's probably like, you got to be able to prove that you can spin that wheel pretty consistently.
32:22 --> 32:29 [SPEAKER_01]: It's an interesting show because there is sort of a physical element of it as well as a mental element.
32:29 --> 32:37 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's like, when you miss the ball, when you're trying to break during opening a pool game or something like that at that point,
32:38 --> 32:39 [SPEAKER_02]: for the rest of the night here, I'm good.
32:39 --> 32:50 [SPEAKER_01]: They should incorporate that into jeopardy where you have to walk up with a sledgehammer and do one of those fair sledgehammer games a little carnival of fair, yeah, like that idea.
32:50 --> 32:58 [SPEAKER_02]: To figure out which, you know, would be a made, get that little punching bag that you have to hit really hard in whichever one of the three gets the biggest.
32:58 --> 33:06 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll take potent, potent bulls for, oh, that looks like it's going to be 300 athletes.
33:09 --> 33:10 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that would be great.
33:11 --> 33:20 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, so this is leading into our next season of Properly Howard, which I've titled the newlywed pod.
33:21 --> 33:28 [SPEAKER_01]: The newlywed pod assumes that we will be rewarded if we know something about each other, right?
33:28 --> 33:33 [SPEAKER_01]: If I can guess something about you, then I'm rewarded for it.
33:33 --> 33:39 [SPEAKER_01]: In this case, the reward comes for if I can guess a movie
33:40 --> 33:42 [SPEAKER_01]: I get I get rewarded for it.
33:43 --> 33:45 [SPEAKER_01]: In other words, I get we're going to cover that movie.
33:45 --> 33:48 [SPEAKER_02]: So you So the idea being we're picking it with we want to see.
33:48 --> 33:53 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yes, but it also has to be one that the other person is not seen.
33:54 --> 33:58 [SPEAKER_02]: That's So in order to get our choice, we have to.
33:59 --> 34:00 [SPEAKER_01]: You have to get it correctly.
34:00 --> 34:01 [SPEAKER_01]: You have to get it correctly.
34:01 --> 34:07 [SPEAKER_01]: You have to You have to you have to absolutely know the podcast partner that you're wedded to.
34:08 --> 34:10 [SPEAKER_01]: has not seen a particular movie.
34:10 --> 34:13 [SPEAKER_01]: And so you get rewarded.
34:13 --> 34:20 [SPEAKER_01]: If you get right on the honor system, if one of us comes and says, actually, I've seen that movie.
34:21 --> 34:23 [SPEAKER_02]: Here's a movie is then struck from the record.
34:24 --> 34:29 [SPEAKER_02]: This is where I think things are going to get a little bit more challenging for us.
34:30 --> 34:36 [SPEAKER_02]: Because last night, I opted to watch a movie that I had seen before.
34:37 --> 34:41 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, and uh, I had never seen it before.
34:42 --> 34:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, this is kind of our jaws experience.
34:44 --> 34:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, we're very first podcast, uh, movie we covered on this podcast was Jaws.
34:48 --> 34:51 [SPEAKER_01]: One of the first things that you said on that was, you know what?
34:52 --> 34:53 [SPEAKER_01]: I thought I saw it before.
34:54 --> 34:59 [SPEAKER_01]: But I maybe just saw scenes and I was conflating it with Jaws 2, Jaws 3.
35:00 --> 35:04 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I've ever actually sat down and watched this entire movie before.
35:05 --> 35:22 [SPEAKER_01]: So it is there's a little bit of fuzzy memory problem that goes into this and I think that we should give each other a little bit of grace in that if Let's say it is a movie that you might have seen Like I maybe saw once a long time ago, but I'm not sure about it.
35:22 --> 35:34 [SPEAKER_02]: I think that we should be able to say okay give you give you a million on that one Well, like last night because we were we've been rewatching all the
35:35 --> 35:55 [SPEAKER_02]: Gotcha and we got to start track beyond last night and I'm like watch in the first like five minutes and I'm like I like jokingly over at Heather And I said man if you told me this is the first time I'd ever watch this I'd totally believe you and about 20 minutes in I'm like I've never seen this movie before my life But I was convinced I had she's like no we've seen this and then I'm like do you remember this?
35:55 --> 36:03 [SPEAKER_02]: No at the end we're like we've never seen this movie and then now we're like Why do we watch this move like we we enjoyed the others and
36:03 --> 36:13 [SPEAKER_02]: you know, trying to figure out what what would have derailed us from but anyway, but that's so that's the kind of thing of the other direct certain movies that I've confused with other movies for my whole life.
36:13 --> 36:19 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, I was waiting for a scene that was like, I think it was from like the Star Trek generations.
36:20 --> 36:22 [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I guess I'm like, yeah, I'll hear.
36:22 --> 36:23 [SPEAKER_02]: But so there is that element, right?
36:23 --> 36:27 [SPEAKER_02]: So that would have been so so I use that as a kind of an alternate example of
36:27 --> 36:30 [SPEAKER_02]: me saying, like, I'd be like, hi, you've got me wrong.
36:30 --> 36:31 [SPEAKER_02]: I've seen this movie before.
36:31 --> 36:37 [SPEAKER_02]: If you'd pick Star Trek Beyond, I would have convinced us and the listeners that we had seen it, and it would have been wrong.
36:37 --> 36:43 [SPEAKER_01]: So, just, yeah, we'll have a, well, look, man, we're just going to have to navigate those waters.
36:43 --> 36:43 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
36:44 --> 36:50 [SPEAKER_02]: And our listeners will get to a better glimpse of what it's like to age poorly.
36:50 --> 36:51 [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
36:51 --> 36:56 [SPEAKER_01]: So, let's just say, for instance, you know, you say,
36:56 --> 37:18 [SPEAKER_01]: Anthony, I'm selecting radio, I say, I'm sorry Steve, I've seen radio that now radio is stricken from the list and added to our season of properly Howard enters a listener selected film.
37:19 --> 37:32 [SPEAKER_01]: So what's going to happen is neither of us will see these emails and Nancy or David or someone will sort of be in the wings and we'll say, well, look, we got it wrong.
37:33 --> 37:36 [SPEAKER_01]: We need to add an 11th movie to this season.
37:37 --> 37:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Can you randomly select a movie title from listener emails?
37:44 --> 37:48 [SPEAKER_01]: But we would still watch radio, neither of us could ever watch radio ever again.
37:51 --> 37:55 [SPEAKER_02]: This is just a way for you to somehow make sure that I never made it.
37:58 --> 37:59 [SPEAKER_01]: No, that movie's gone.
38:00 --> 38:10 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's why you made, that's why you made the rule that I can't be like, all right, here's the genre movies that are one word and it's in it rhymes with
38:13 --> 38:15 [SPEAKER_01]: So you've got to go again.
38:16 --> 38:26 [SPEAKER_02]: You've got to guess something else that you put that other maybe ends but the other but we so you could compile we can be compiling yeah yeah we could have a very long season.
38:27 --> 38:31 [SPEAKER_01]: Now find out we're just not friends and we just have to divide
38:31 --> 38:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
38:33 --> 38:35 [SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to need listener help for this.
38:37 --> 38:44 [SPEAKER_01]: And the way that you do that is you send that to you banks at the lower hounds.com You spell you banks for the people.
38:45 --> 38:46 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to do that.
38:46 --> 38:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Here's what you're going to do.
38:48 --> 38:52 [SPEAKER_02]: You're going to, I need your help, and we're not going to help you to help us.
38:53 --> 38:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Here's a couple options.
38:54 --> 38:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Number one, all variations of the name you banks at the lower hounds.com
38:59 --> 39:00 [SPEAKER_01]: That would be one way to do it.
39:01 --> 39:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Or you could do a Google search for Bob U-Banks.
39:05 --> 39:09 [SPEAKER_01]: And you could find out how to spell, he could find out how to spell U-Banks.
39:09 --> 39:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Just spell it.
39:10 --> 39:13 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm looking at Bob U-Banks.
39:14 --> 39:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Poor Dave is such a sweetheart.
39:15 --> 39:18 [SPEAKER_01]: I said, we're gonna need an email assist.
39:19 --> 39:20 [SPEAKER_01]: And he said, how about this?
39:20 --> 39:26 [SPEAKER_01]: How about we set up an email account that's a little bit better than Coons of horror at gmail.com.
39:28 --> 39:30 [SPEAKER_01]: And well, it would just be your new email.
39:30 --> 39:32 [SPEAKER_01]: I said, no, let's do U-Bakes.com.
39:32 --> 39:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
39:33 --> 39:33 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
39:33 --> 39:36 [SPEAKER_02]: He was like, hey, how about properly Howard since that's the name of the podcast?
39:36 --> 39:37 [SPEAKER_02]: You're like, hmm.
39:37 --> 39:37 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
39:37 --> 39:37 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
39:37 --> 39:38 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm feeling not one.
39:41 --> 39:43 [SPEAKER_01]: I do like the idea that there's a little bit of effort.
39:44 --> 39:46 [SPEAKER_01]: It's tiny bit of effort.
39:46 --> 39:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
39:47 --> 39:48 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
39:48 --> 39:53 [SPEAKER_02]: That's, that's, that means you really care about your audience when you're like, you do the work.
39:54 --> 40:00 [SPEAKER_02]: I could easily, I could make this so easy for you to communicate with us, but so all right.
40:00 --> 40:01 [SPEAKER_01]: So here's what you're going to do.
40:01 --> 40:06 [SPEAKER_01]: You're going to send an email to youbanks at theloorhounds.com.
40:08 --> 40:24 [SPEAKER_01]: We are not going to see what those are and we're going to have either an answer to your David, sift through those and figure out a way to randomly select these and it could
40:25 --> 40:30 [SPEAKER_01]: properly however and it does it have to match one of our genres.
40:30 --> 40:31 [SPEAKER_01]: It does not.
40:31 --> 40:32 [SPEAKER_01]: It's off-script.
40:33 --> 40:38 [SPEAKER_01]: The next thing to reveal at this point is, and this is going to help us reach out for no heritage.
40:39 --> 40:41 [SPEAKER_01]: What the no way?
40:41 --> 40:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
40:45 --> 40:49 [SPEAKER_01]: That's a, she's brought so much joy to my life over the years.
40:50 --> 41:20 [SPEAKER_01]: uh... just was rewatching uh... episode of curb your enthusiasm with her which is fantastic one of my wife's favorite comedic actresses she's fantastic she's there's almost no shortage of uh... uh... you know crisper for guest uh... home alone shit's creek uh... be the juice uh... i mean uh...
41:20 --> 41:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Did we know how this happened?
41:22 --> 41:25 [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't feel like she was, I mean, she's only 71.
41:25 --> 41:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, did we know?
41:27 --> 41:31 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I guess I could go to TMly.
41:31 --> 41:34 [SPEAKER_01]: And usually, you don't find out right away.
41:35 --> 41:36 [SPEAKER_02]: No.
41:36 --> 41:38 [SPEAKER_02]: Huh.
41:40 --> 41:42 [SPEAKER_01]: It's just so far, it's unclear.
41:42 --> 41:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Ooh, man, let's follow him.
41:45 --> 41:47 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, I'm going to gather myself.
41:47 --> 41:48 [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to move forward.
41:50 --> 41:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Because of our previous game, we determined that I get to come up with six of the genres, and you get to come up with four.
41:58 --> 41:58 [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
41:58 --> 42:00 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, what happens if we overlap?
42:00 --> 42:02 [SPEAKER_02]: That we think there's a possibility.
42:02 --> 42:04 [SPEAKER_01]: If we overlap, we overlap.
42:04 --> 42:04 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like a potluck.
42:05 --> 42:05 [SPEAKER_01]: You can.
42:06 --> 42:12 [SPEAKER_01]: If you're more than one potato salad, then you're trying to different potato salad.
42:12 --> 42:17 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, so here were the specifications for this that we agreed upon.
42:18 --> 42:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Big movie Isle genre, followed by a qualifier,
42:24 --> 42:33 [SPEAKER_01]: And once you have narrowed, you have, there has to be at least two movies that would plausibly fit into your qualification.
42:33 --> 42:41 [SPEAKER_01]: So for instance, you could if you wanted to say, I want a superhero movie featuring Chris O'Donnell.
42:43 --> 42:47 [SPEAKER_01]: That would work because I would, that would narrow it to at least two Batman movies.
42:47 --> 42:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
42:49 --> 42:50 [SPEAKER_01]: So he says,
42:51 --> 42:53 [SPEAKER_01]: I would have hears what I could not do.
42:53 --> 43:01 [SPEAKER_01]: I could not say I want a submarine movie without Baldwin because I would only narrow it to one move.
43:01 --> 43:01 [SPEAKER_02]: Hmm.
43:01 --> 43:06 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know that he's ever eaten a sub sandwich room.
43:06 --> 43:07 [SPEAKER_01]: It's possible.
43:08 --> 43:12 [SPEAKER_01]: It's possible that he's uh I'd never saw down periscope.
43:13 --> 43:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Was he in that right there maybe a cameo and downpairs?
43:19 --> 43:26 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, so I'm gonna go first because I've got six and you've got four and then we can trade back and forth.
43:26 --> 43:29 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, my first
43:29 --> 43:37 [SPEAKER_01]: is I'm going to choose the overall genre of thriller with the qualifier espionage.
43:38 --> 43:40 [SPEAKER_01]: So this thriller espionage.
43:40 --> 43:46 [SPEAKER_01]: So this is, you know, colloquially this would be a spy thriller espionage.
43:47 --> 43:47 [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
43:47 --> 43:48 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm kind of keeping track here.
43:49 --> 43:50 [SPEAKER_02]: And then we're going to draft these.
43:50 --> 43:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
43:52 --> 43:53 [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to draft them and
43:54 --> 43:57 [SPEAKER_01]: you can choose my genre, I can choose your genre.
43:57 --> 44:13 [SPEAKER_01]: And so when I was coming up with these, I was thinking, all right, I need to come up with at least two movies that I don't think that's Steve's scene that I could draft under this genre, but also I was thinking, okay, but if he chooses this genre, right, what do I think that he thinks I haven't seen?
44:14 --> 44:14 [SPEAKER_02]: Right, okay.
44:14 --> 44:21 [SPEAKER_02]: And so how do we, and so we're just gonna draft and when we get a chant, when it's our turn, we just pick, we pick,
44:22 --> 44:24 [SPEAKER_02]: whatever available genre we want.
44:25 --> 44:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and it's like you're going to say, okay, you got the number one pick in in the in the category of spy thriller, I'm going to choose.
44:36 --> 44:38 [SPEAKER_01]: And then, of course, that now that's off the board.
44:38 --> 44:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Are we allowed any challenges if it does we don't feel it.
44:41 --> 44:42 [SPEAKER_02]: If it qualify for genre.
44:43 --> 44:44 [SPEAKER_01]: I think so.
44:44 --> 44:47 [SPEAKER_01]: And we, you know, let's say we've got Nancy Wade in the wings.
44:47 --> 44:49 [SPEAKER_01]: We make get her opinion on it as well.
44:50 --> 44:56 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that we might have have to have some discussion about whether or not it's category fraud.
44:57 --> 44:58 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
44:58 --> 44:58 [SPEAKER_02]: Make it.
44:58 --> 45:02 [SPEAKER_02]: I think I think if we make it the initial case, we may be going to avoid the challenge, right?
45:03 --> 45:05 [SPEAKER_01]: I think maybe so.
45:05 --> 45:06 [SPEAKER_01]: What will figure it out?
45:07 --> 45:07 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
45:07 --> 45:08 [SPEAKER_01]: So let's see here.
45:09 --> 45:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Now I've gone now.
45:10 --> 45:12 [SPEAKER_01]: It is your turn.
45:12 --> 45:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
45:12 --> 45:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
45:13 --> 45:17 [SPEAKER_02]: A science fiction film about genetic engineering.
45:18 --> 45:21 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to have to choose if I want this one.
45:21 --> 45:26 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to have to choose this for a movie I don't think that you've seen.
45:26 --> 45:32 [SPEAKER_02]: Now it's okay to pick a movie that neither of us have seen correct.
45:33 --> 45:34 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that that's correct.
45:35 --> 45:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
45:36 --> 45:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
45:37 --> 45:59 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the only qualification is that you've, or if you're, if your memory of it is so fuzzy that you're not sure that you've seen it, how are we, I mean, are we trying to at least confine this to like, I want to say they have to be like, like, they're not like hits, but I mean, it's not like we're going to be like, oh, okay, we pick something so, I mean, there's plenty of.
46:00 --> 46:17 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I
46:19 --> 46:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Alright, this is my next selection.
46:23 --> 46:33 [SPEAKER_01]: This is sci-fi as an overall genre, sub-category alien invasion.
46:33 --> 46:36 [SPEAKER_02]: Ooh, yeah, I know exactly what I would say.
46:38 --> 46:40 [SPEAKER_01]: But I know you've had the same phenomenon.
46:40 --> 46:44 [SPEAKER_01]: So, I don't know what your process was, but I came up with, I just started with the list of movies.
46:44 --> 46:46 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that you have not seen.
46:47 --> 46:53 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's kind of how I I did this a little bit that way and then I also picked some genres that I'm like, oh, this could certainly.
46:53 --> 46:58 [SPEAKER_02]: I feel pretty confident that I could pick something.
47:00 --> 47:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, for yeah.
47:02 --> 47:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so that is my selection.
47:04 --> 47:06 [SPEAKER_01]: So sci-fi alien invasion.
47:06 --> 47:06 [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
47:06 --> 47:07 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to go.
47:07 --> 47:07 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
47:07 --> 47:11 [SPEAKER_02]: This one here, a 1990s thriller.
47:13 --> 47:14 [SPEAKER_02]: With dark in the title.
47:18 --> 47:20 [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like that's multiple qualifications.
47:22 --> 47:26 [SPEAKER_01]: Thriller would be your umbrella genre, right?
47:26 --> 47:30 [SPEAKER_01]: And now you've added two qualifications, 1990s and dark in the title.
47:31 --> 47:33 [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like you're going to have to choose one of those.
47:34 --> 47:34 [SPEAKER_02]: No, I don't think so.
47:38 --> 47:41 [SPEAKER_02]: This is against the rules that we agreed upon.
47:41 --> 47:41 [SPEAKER_02]: No, it's fine.
47:41 --> 47:43 [SPEAKER_02]: 1990s Thriller is its own genre.
47:43 --> 47:47 [SPEAKER_02]: You said Netflix categories is how you said it to me.
47:47 --> 47:47 [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
47:47 --> 47:52 [SPEAKER_01]: So you're saying 1990s Thriller is the umbrella category.
47:52 --> 47:56 [SPEAKER_01]: And now it has to have dark in the title.
47:56 --> 48:01 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, that's a, that's a, it's very specific.
48:02 --> 48:02 [SPEAKER_01]: It's okay.
48:03 --> 48:05 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll do my best.
48:05 --> 48:09 [SPEAKER_01]: You were going to be watching some kind of obscured German film.
48:14 --> 48:17 [SPEAKER_01]: All kinds of options.
48:17 --> 48:19 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, so now it is my turn.
48:21 --> 48:50 [SPEAKER_01]: um drama based on a true story well based on a true story um that's an interesting uh i mean based on true events you know based on you know it has to have some kind of connection to some kind of real worlds ideally it would start with based on a true story yeah i guess i guess sometimes
48:51 --> 48:53 [SPEAKER_02]: That's not what we're talking about.
48:53 --> 48:55 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's not necessarily what I had in mind.
48:55 --> 49:01 [SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't be grudge for our go because it'd be interesting to talk about.
49:02 --> 49:11 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, usually if you say that at the beginning of a film, it does have some kind of connection to some kind of historical personage or event.
49:13 --> 49:20 [SPEAKER_01]: I think inspired by true events, maybe not within the, I don't know what, what do you think about that?
49:20 --> 49:24 [SPEAKER_02]: What do you think about inspired by true events?
49:25 --> 49:31 [SPEAKER_02]: Like an example, I mean, this is an example of that would be like Texas changed my master curve.
49:32 --> 49:36 [SPEAKER_02]: Texas changed my master curve is considered inspired by true events because it's sort of like a malgum of
49:36 --> 49:43 [SPEAKER_02]: there's some things that are involved with like there was, you know, sort of an incident, but then there's also borrowing maybe for some, uh, edging.
49:43 --> 49:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Can we access this?
49:45 --> 49:51 [SPEAKER_01]: The accesses is famously like based on at least someone's, um, account?
49:51 --> 49:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
49:52 --> 49:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
49:53 --> 49:53 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
49:53 --> 49:54 [SPEAKER_02]: That's an interesting.
49:55 --> 49:55 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
49:55 --> 50:00 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, this might be a good one, but if it's not clear, uh, it would be,
50:01 --> 50:06 [SPEAKER_02]: Like if it's on a biopic for example, you know, we could be this could be open for discussion.
50:06 --> 50:07 [SPEAKER_02]: So I'll be exactly.
50:07 --> 50:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
50:08 --> 50:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
50:08 --> 50:09 [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
50:09 --> 50:10 [SPEAKER_01]: So that was my note.
50:10 --> 50:11 [SPEAKER_01]: You get a selection.
50:12 --> 50:12 [SPEAKER_02]: 1980s.
50:12 --> 50:13 [SPEAKER_02]: Ranchie comedy.
50:13 --> 50:17 [SPEAKER_01]: 80s comedy.
50:18 --> 50:18 [SPEAKER_01]: Ranchie.
50:21 --> 50:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Ranchie, I can.
50:22 --> 50:27 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that I think you're you're sneaking in an additional qualifier.
50:27 --> 50:28 [SPEAKER_02]: It's it is what it is.
50:28 --> 50:29 [SPEAKER_02]: We're moving on.
50:31 --> 50:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Gosh, I'm gonna I'm gonna live with this.
50:34 --> 50:35 [SPEAKER_01]: You could add.
50:35 --> 50:41 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't I mean if you want to go back and and add a a timeline to any of your others I'd be perfectly fine with it.
50:42 --> 50:57 [SPEAKER_01]: I do have one of mine with the timeline, but I'll do it now Crime drama pre-1983 And you don't see that as because you see this crime even though I
50:57 --> 51:23 [SPEAKER_02]: drama and then crime and then yeah for you what I can see I can see that I've been hypocritical so far I yeah I was thinking crime drama as the umbrella category like a pretty pretty well-known umbrella category but I will allow you to add a timeline to any of the ones you've done before that helps you or if you have interest in that.
51:23 --> 51:26 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, I want my spy thriller to only come from 2014.
51:26 --> 51:30 [SPEAKER_01]: That's all right.
51:30 --> 51:32 [SPEAKER_01]: You're like, no, I can't be able to.
51:32 --> 51:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Because, you know, limiting that means that I'm limiting myself, maybe, and true, true.
51:38 --> 51:39 [SPEAKER_01]: And maybe I don't want that, all right.
51:39 --> 51:42 [SPEAKER_01]: So, um, so that that is my choice.
51:42 --> 51:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Crime drama, pre-1983, and ground.
51:45 --> 51:48 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, my next one is 21st century horror.
51:49 --> 52:10 [SPEAKER_01]: horror interesting okay so the this is tricky I think I'm I think I'm just gonna plant this like there's so many horror films that I have not seen and I kind of feel like you have a lot more although it is 21st century I feel like I am watching more modern movies than you do.
52:11 --> 52:23 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, I, part of the reason I took is because I, you've actually been recommending horror movies to me that are more reason because I feel like we, I believe open those gates for you.
52:24 --> 52:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, alright, alright, I'm into it.
52:27 --> 52:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Here we go.
52:27 --> 52:31 [SPEAKER_01]: Then now it is my turn.
52:32 --> 52:40 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to say 21st century action comedy.
52:41 --> 52:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, multiple.
52:43 --> 52:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I didn't have the 21st century before.
52:45 --> 52:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Nice.
52:46 --> 52:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Nice.
52:46 --> 52:48 [SPEAKER_01]: But I figured out that I could do it.
52:48 --> 52:55 [SPEAKER_01]: And then I look at the ones that I wanted to try to cover and I was like, Oh, yeah, I'm knowing that I barely watched anything new.
52:56 --> 52:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, okay.
52:59 --> 53:00 [SPEAKER_01]: So that was my choice.
53:02 --> 53:02 [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
53:02 --> 53:03 [SPEAKER_01]: So there there there's 10.
53:05 --> 53:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Is it I thought if I don't think I've given you six, I think you given me four, but I don't think Yeah, that's right.
53:11 --> 53:12 [SPEAKER_01]: You need to give me one more.
53:13 --> 53:18 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so my last one is science fiction no aliens.
53:19 --> 53:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Wow, so we got a lot of sci-fi.
53:22 --> 53:29 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we do and it looks like a couple of these could double up because it could be that genetic engineering doesn't have aliens, right?
53:29 --> 53:30 [SPEAKER_02]: True.
53:31 --> 53:32 [SPEAKER_02]: And it could be that us, I mean,
53:33 --> 53:37 [SPEAKER_02]: Just because something's a thriller doesn't mean it can't be science fiction elements either, same with drama.
53:38 --> 53:39 [SPEAKER_02]: That's true.
53:39 --> 53:43 [SPEAKER_02]: Of course drama based on a sheer story might be difficult with a sci-fi.
53:43 --> 53:43 [UNKNOWN]: Okay.
53:45 --> 53:48 [SPEAKER_02]: Now I want to thank you for the 1980s sci-fi crunchy comedies.
53:51 --> 54:00 [SPEAKER_01]: To go through these, these are our categories sci-fi with genetic engineering,
54:02 --> 54:27 [SPEAKER_01]: 1990s thriller with the word dark in the title sci-fi alien invasion drama based on the true story 80s comedy ronchi action comedy in the 21st century 21st century horror crime drama pre-1983
54:29 --> 54:35 [SPEAKER_01]: and sci-fi no aliens and that should give us 10 genres to work with.
54:36 --> 54:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Only one comedy.
54:38 --> 54:40 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I said action comedy.
54:40 --> 54:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's true.
54:40 --> 54:41 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, yes, yes, yes, action comedy.
54:42 --> 54:42 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
54:42 --> 54:46 [SPEAKER_01]: And you said 20 for, or you said 1980s, Ranchi comedy.
54:46 --> 54:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
54:48 --> 54:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Ranchi is, um, you think it's in the eye of the video.
54:51 --> 54:51 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a word.
54:52 --> 54:57 [SPEAKER_01]: I do think so, but Ranchi gets thrown on comedy more so than any other genre.
54:57 --> 55:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's not a lot of like a ronchy drum.
55:02 --> 55:09 [SPEAKER_01]: I guess ronchy drum, I guess, I guess that is some kingdoms is something of a ronchy adventure story.
55:11 --> 55:12 [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
55:12 --> 55:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
55:13 --> 55:15 [SPEAKER_01]: So listeners, we do need your help.
55:15 --> 55:18 [SPEAKER_01]: You're going to email you banks at thewarhounds.com.
55:20 --> 55:22 [SPEAKER_01]: And you can send in multiple emails.
55:22 --> 55:24 [SPEAKER_01]: You don't have to just choose one.
55:24 --> 55:28 [SPEAKER_01]: We probably will need a few movie options to choose from.
55:30 --> 55:34 [SPEAKER_01]: And they do not have to fit any of the genres we've just listed.
55:36 --> 55:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Any other instructions for our listeners, Steve?
55:39 --> 56:02 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, you know, really like, like, abalone diving, well, just when you when you're picking your movies, you know, obviously for the sake of the podcast, you know, choose choose wisely choose better than me, maybe.
56:11 --> 56:12 [UNKNOWN]: Thank you.
57:08 --> 57:19 [SPEAKER_03]: Come on, and a cocoon of horror.