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00:19 --> 00:29 [SPEAKER_02]: Hello, properly Howard fans, this week's season I will be saying our farewells to Munker's mom Warner, Ozzy Osbourne, and Hulk Hogan.
00:29 --> 00:32 [SPEAKER_02]: After that, we'll do a bit of listener feedback.
00:33 --> 00:37 [SPEAKER_02]: As always, you should be checking out what's going on at the lorehounds.com.
00:37 --> 00:51 [SPEAKER_02]: Most especially, I am looking forward to their coverage of Alien Earth, which is a new prestige TV Alien series that functions as kind of a prequel to the first film.
00:51 --> 00:52 [SPEAKER_02]: That ought to be a lot of fun.
00:53 --> 00:58 [SPEAKER_02]: We'll be back next week with our coverage of the movie Witness.
00:59 --> 01:06 [SPEAKER_02]: That further ado, here is my beloved co-host, stand-up comic, Steve Osburn.
01:07 --> 01:10 [SPEAKER_02]: To me, this may be the most important podcast we have ever record.
01:10 --> 01:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Because this will be confess we killed Hulk Ogan.
01:14 --> 01:20 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, someone had to do it.
01:20 --> 01:21 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a victimless cry.
01:28 --> 01:29 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, here's what I'll say.
01:30 --> 01:35 [SPEAKER_02]: I'll say that it's very possible, Steve, that two hundred years from now.
01:38 --> 01:47 [SPEAKER_02]: Historians look back to the career of Hulk Hogan and they locate this one personality as
01:48 --> 01:51 [SPEAKER_02]: the beginning of the decline of Western civilization.
01:52 --> 01:58 [SPEAKER_02]: But he was more important than Jesus in the United States before.
02:01 --> 02:04 [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, no, his passing.
02:04 --> 02:08 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's the one who taught you to pray, at least the importance of it.
02:09 --> 02:10 [SPEAKER_01]: But in the top three.
02:14 --> 02:16 [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't know what the training was.
02:16 --> 02:18 [SPEAKER_02]: I did take Flintstone vitamins.
02:19 --> 02:22 [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't know what kind of vitamins he was taking.
02:22 --> 02:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, I might have explained this case in death.
02:28 --> 02:30 [SPEAKER_01]: How could we now we always do the thoughts and prayers?
02:30 --> 02:33 [SPEAKER_01]: I think, really, we should be like training in prayers, training in prayers.
02:33 --> 02:36 [SPEAKER_02]: Training prayers, vitamins, and other blessings.
02:38 --> 02:47 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, for me, Hulk, Hulk, Hulk can cut me at the exact right age for whatever it was that he did.
02:49 --> 02:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
02:49 --> 02:50 [SPEAKER_01]: No, that's a great.
02:50 --> 02:51 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a great way to put it.
02:52 --> 02:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, like, I mean, there was a certain improbability to his, uh, to his prowess, right?
02:59 --> 03:03 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, not, not I wouldn't say the most handsome gentleman.
03:05 --> 03:09 [SPEAKER_02]: I would love to see, I would, I was thinking of this today.
03:09 --> 03:20 [SPEAKER_02]: I was thinking like, I would like to describe Hulk Hogan to a team of marketing experts and try to like tell them that this is a good idea.
03:20 --> 03:28 [SPEAKER_01]: I think years ago, I heard it put somebody said, if Hulk Hogan ever existed, would we feel the need to invent him?
03:30 --> 03:31 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, all right.
03:31 --> 03:33 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's start with the name.
03:33 --> 03:33 [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
03:33 --> 03:36 [SPEAKER_02]: So Terry's not a great wrestling name.
03:38 --> 03:39 [SPEAKER_02]: So you're going to need a good one.
03:39 --> 03:39 [SPEAKER_02]: So Hulk.
03:40 --> 03:40 [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
03:40 --> 03:40 [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
03:40 --> 03:40 [SPEAKER_02]: Good.
03:40 --> 03:41 [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
03:41 --> 03:42 [SPEAKER_02]: Hulk.
03:42 --> 03:42 [SPEAKER_02]: That's good.
03:43 --> 03:43 [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
03:43 --> 03:45 [SPEAKER_02]: So he's going to be green, right?
03:47 --> 03:47 [SPEAKER_02]: No.
03:48 --> 03:48 [SPEAKER_02]: No.
03:48 --> 03:51 [SPEAKER_02]: He'll be yellow in tan, possibly yellow.
03:52 --> 04:14 [SPEAKER_02]: and possibly he'll be a yellow you've never seen before yeah it's just like you're like okay okay well at least he'll be like some big hairy Italian guy like Lou Freigno right no mostly hairless yeah mostly hairless most the hair will be a very distinctive where where it actually grows right
04:16 --> 04:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
04:17 --> 04:18 [SPEAKER_01]: He was so most places.
04:18 --> 04:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, go again with such a sort of this, you know, contradiction and just this, this enigmatic figure that you were more interested in where the hair was as opposed to where it wasn't.
04:33 --> 04:33 [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
04:34 --> 04:35 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, for whatever reason.
04:36 --> 04:40 [SPEAKER_01]: All guy, like other bald, but for him it was just like, well, look at where it is.
04:43 --> 05:07 [SPEAKER_02]: It's it's right there and it's gonna stay right them all the different like performance and answers he went through like Nothing for there This this was the nineteen eighties this was sort of like look if you're Bruce Willis You were just gonna have to out charisma the balding yeah now were you Were you a fan of his cinematic career.
05:07 --> 05:09 [SPEAKER_02]: I was always more a fan of his racism
05:12 --> 05:13 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's really more your speed.
05:13 --> 05:15 [SPEAKER_01]: It's just, I don't know.
05:15 --> 05:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe, maybe just how it was raised.
05:18 --> 05:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's see how many movies we talk in here.
05:20 --> 05:25 [SPEAKER_01]: We're talking, of course, that he played famously Thunderlips in Rocky III.
05:28 --> 05:32 [SPEAKER_02]: He, no holds barred, which he actually holds barred, which he wrote.
05:33 --> 05:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, and it shows.
05:36 --> 05:41 [SPEAKER_01]: If there was ever a movie where you could tell that the script was probably mostly finger painted,
05:43 --> 05:46 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know who's barred for me was a problem.
05:46 --> 05:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, because Which part the all of it like it is for me?
05:52 --> 05:54 [SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't allowed to see it.
05:55 --> 05:59 [SPEAKER_01]: You don't and you still shouldn't be I Will not allow you to watch this movie.
05:59 --> 06:06 [SPEAKER_01]: I watched a I watch twenty four minutes of it the other day and Wow Holy wow
06:09 --> 06:14 [SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, I can't even say I've never done cocaine because I feel like I did.
06:14 --> 06:18 [SPEAKER_02]: I was in a lot to see it.
06:19 --> 06:22 [SPEAKER_02]: And of course, you know, it was like the most important thing in my world.
06:23 --> 06:28 [SPEAKER_02]: And I guess they introduced the character of Zeus in this.
06:29 --> 06:30 [SPEAKER_02]: Is that right?
06:30 --> 06:30 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
06:30 --> 06:32 [SPEAKER_02]: And then Zeus became a wrestler.
06:33 --> 06:33 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
06:33 --> 06:35 [SPEAKER_02]: And for me, it was sort of like, I don't get it.
06:35 --> 06:36 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, that guy's an actor.
06:37 --> 06:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Right, it was an interesting attempt, right, because they're like, okay, but we'll recreate this rivalry from the movie, but it's not like Hulk, Hulk, and played Hulk, Hogan, and the movie.
06:48 --> 07:02 [SPEAKER_01]: So they were, I think if I recall correctly, they may have tried to make it seem like Zeus was actually Zeus, but there was an issue during filming, like they would have been acknowledged.
07:02 --> 07:04 [SPEAKER_01]: That, then, Hogan wasn't, oh, again.
07:05 --> 07:11 [SPEAKER_02]: This is about the same time when I was kind of wondering, is Mr. Tea like, is he a real box?
07:11 --> 07:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Is he a real person?
07:13 --> 07:16 [SPEAKER_02]: Is he a serialist?
07:16 --> 07:17 [SPEAKER_02]: Is he just serialist?
07:20 --> 07:30 [SPEAKER_02]: It was sort of that age where it's sort of like, there's a part of me that kind of knows that this is fantasy, but it looks real, and I kind of want it to be real.
07:31 --> 07:34 [SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of like the same way I looked at my parents' marriage.
07:38 --> 07:38 [SPEAKER_01]: It looks real.
07:39 --> 07:40 [SPEAKER_01]: I want it to be real.
07:40 --> 07:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Everything around me suggests it's fake.
07:49 --> 07:52 [SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, not being able to see no holds barred.
07:53 --> 07:54 [SPEAKER_02]: It broke my heart.
07:54 --> 07:57 [SPEAKER_02]: And I probably never recovered from that.
07:59 --> 08:05 [SPEAKER_01]: He intimidates a limo driver to the point where the limo driver poops his pants.
08:06 --> 08:08 [SPEAKER_02]: No, I've seen that scene for sure.
08:08 --> 08:13 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, and then he's angry because it's smell where the screams out dukey.
08:14 --> 08:19 [SPEAKER_01]: He said he says, dukey as a human being wrote it in a script, not an adlib.
08:24 --> 08:27 [SPEAKER_01]: And actors, there are actors who auditioned for that part and didn't get it.
08:31 --> 08:40 [SPEAKER_02]: I was thinking of the other day, like, um, in terms of the trifecta of Ozzy Osbourne, Malcolm Jamal Mortar, Warner, and Hulk Hogan.
08:41 --> 08:49 [SPEAKER_02]: I think Theo Huggsible was probably the most important in terms of sort of broader cultural impact.
08:50 --> 08:56 [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, just it just so happened to be that Hulk Hogan just caught me at the right time.
08:58 --> 09:00 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, in my world, he was Jesus.
09:01 --> 09:04 [SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, I watched the Cosby show like everyone else, right?
09:06 --> 09:07 [SPEAKER_01]: But you were just a little bit like Theo.
09:09 --> 09:13 [SPEAKER_02]: I was not tuned in for Theo, although I did kind of feel like Theo.
09:15 --> 09:18 [SPEAKER_02]: And my older sisters would tell me that I was Theo every now and again.
09:19 --> 09:24 [SPEAKER_02]: So there was sort of like, I, you know, for me, nobody was telling you.
09:25 --> 09:26 [SPEAKER_02]: No one was telling me it's whole code.
09:27 --> 09:32 [SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, look, in the mythology of my youth, there were people in the world who were demon possessed.
09:33 --> 09:37 [SPEAKER_02]: And it was kind of, if you like, maybe, maybe you like this person.
09:37 --> 09:41 [SPEAKER_02]: The only person that was absolutely demon possessed was Azios.
09:43 --> 09:44 [SPEAKER_02]: He was the only one.
09:44 --> 09:46 [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, no, there's no doubt about it.
09:46 --> 09:49 [SPEAKER_02]: Like guys, definitely got a few demons going on.
09:49 --> 10:09 [SPEAKER_02]: And birds of the world look out because your heads are not safe around this man So, you know, he was he was close closer to the devil to me Theo Huxibel was a little bit He sort of like almost the every man to me and then Hulk Hogan was a god, right?
10:09 --> 10:10 [SPEAKER_01]: So, okay.
10:10 --> 10:15 [SPEAKER_01]: So, so Theo represents mortals Yeah, because that's that's what you can relate to, right?
10:15 --> 10:15 [SPEAKER_01]: So he's more of your
10:16 --> 10:18 [SPEAKER_01]: in this clash of the Titans, because you're per se, yes.
10:20 --> 10:20 [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
10:20 --> 10:21 [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you very much.
10:22 --> 10:23 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, that's right.
10:24 --> 10:31 [SPEAKER_02]: And then, uh, Ozzy Osbourne is a crack and it's a crack and another yeah, and then of course, uh, a hogana Zeus.
10:32 --> 10:38 [SPEAKER_02]: Hogana Zeus and, uh, all of the questionable things that Zeus did, Hogan also did.
10:38 --> 10:38 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
10:44 --> 10:47 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, anything else you'd like to say for the Hulkster?
10:49 --> 10:55 [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's important to that we are here talking about the Hulk Hogan, the character.
10:58 --> 10:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, really?
11:00 --> 11:09 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, we're just for those that for some reason, I was going to say just tuning in like for some reason, they just got into part of the podcast instead of starting from the beginning.
11:11 --> 11:17 [SPEAKER_01]: This wasn't so much just a retrospective on on the Terry as a person.
11:18 --> 11:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, for sure.
11:19 --> 11:23 [SPEAKER_01]: And so I bet I mean, since we're on the topic, did you have any?
11:24 --> 11:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Why do I seem to remember you having like like being an Aussie fan in in high school, my crazy?
11:30 --> 11:39 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, there was a, I guess, into my junior high years, there was a, a lot of fear around him.
11:43 --> 11:44 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, for sure.
11:44 --> 11:50 [SPEAKER_02]: Because, you know, if you listen to some of these songs, I'm sure that you would be demon possessed at some point.
11:50 --> 11:50 [SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
11:51 --> 11:52 [SPEAKER_02]: So it was afraid of that.
11:52 --> 11:54 [SPEAKER_01]: At least want to play Dungeons and Dragons.
11:54 --> 11:56 [SPEAKER_02]: And then my dad bought a car.
11:56 --> 11:58 [SPEAKER_02]: I think it was like a green dotson.
11:59 --> 12:05 [SPEAKER_02]: And with the car came a tape in a tape deck.
12:05 --> 12:05 [SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
12:05 --> 12:06 [SPEAKER_02]: So the car was possessed.
12:11 --> 12:15 [SPEAKER_02]: And it was, you know, it was sort of a revelation.
12:15 --> 12:21 [SPEAKER_02]: It was, I listened for the very first time and I was sort of like, seduced.
12:21 --> 12:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
12:22 --> 12:23 [SPEAKER_01]: That's the darkness of glue.
12:24 --> 12:28 [SPEAKER_02]: Just today, I was listening to Warp Higgs, and it holds up, man.
12:28 --> 12:34 [SPEAKER_02]: And just a fantastic artist looking back on it.
12:36 --> 12:37 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe demon possessed.
12:38 --> 12:42 [SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, Tuesday say who is and who is and what kind of demons we're talking about.
12:43 --> 12:49 [SPEAKER_01]: I always feel like so to like the more obvious the demon possessed person is probably the least likely that their demon possessed.
12:50 --> 12:52 [SPEAKER_01]: I know that that sort of goes against sort of the
12:54 --> 13:00 [SPEAKER_01]: the typical representation of like people arrive in around and swearing and picking at themselves.
13:00 --> 13:07 [SPEAKER_01]: And again, it's like, okay, that's math, but like, and we know in terms of actual beam and possession, figure they might want to be a little more subtle about it.
13:07 --> 13:24 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so for me both WrestleMania and Ozzy Osborn, I kind of existed in oral history for me before I actually saw anything hurt anything from them, because early on it was sort of like people would come to school and talk about
13:25 --> 13:29 [SPEAKER_02]: how, you know, Hulk Hogan, body slammed, under the giant.
13:29 --> 13:31 [SPEAKER_02]: And it was the first time that it's ever been done.
13:32 --> 13:35 [SPEAKER_02]: And so you kind of heard about it before you actually saw it.
13:36 --> 13:38 [SPEAKER_02]: Because it was not accessible, right?
13:38 --> 13:39 [SPEAKER_02]: Same thing with Ozzy Osbourne.
13:39 --> 13:42 [SPEAKER_02]: What was the oral history about Ozzy Osbourne?
13:42 --> 13:44 [SPEAKER_02]: He was at a bat.
13:44 --> 13:47 [SPEAKER_01]: For me it was a bat, but they had up a bat.
13:47 --> 13:53 [SPEAKER_02]: People said, but that was sort of like, it had gone through a few iterations of distortion before.
13:54 --> 13:59 [SPEAKER_02]: It got to me, but to me, that's just by that he's just got a little blood sugar.
13:59 --> 13:59 [SPEAKER_01]: That's not a problem.
14:03 --> 14:07 [SPEAKER_02]: But the head off of a live bat while on stage.
14:07 --> 14:10 [SPEAKER_02]: And that was just kind of like, lower on the playground.
14:11 --> 14:14 [SPEAKER_02]: And then of course, then you just see an image of his face.
14:15 --> 14:17 [SPEAKER_02]: And you're thinking, oh, yeah, that holds up.
14:18 --> 14:19 [SPEAKER_02]: That's a bad idea, right there.
14:21 --> 14:24 [SPEAKER_02]: If anyone's going to bite the head off a bat, that's not saying.
14:24 --> 14:29 [SPEAKER_02]: And then it became, um, uh, bite the head off a live bird.
14:30 --> 14:30 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
14:31 --> 14:36 [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, and I think that the, maybe the story is like someone threw a dead bird on stage or something.
14:36 --> 14:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
14:37 --> 14:38 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not exactly sure.
14:38 --> 14:47 [SPEAKER_01]: It's one of those things where it's like if you just were to just take the moment, like I think it's important to this juxtaposition, given their, uh, recent deaths, um,
14:48 --> 14:49 [SPEAKER_01]: for those of you who are just too neat in.
14:49 --> 14:51 [SPEAKER_01]: This is the first you've heard of it.
14:51 --> 14:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, Aussie Osborne and Holkoke and have both passed away.
14:54 --> 15:09 [SPEAKER_01]: The, the Hogan represent he cross around the neck, praying to his vitamins, Holkameen, he was all about, you know, it's respecting your parents, all that kind of like still had, there was a wholesome quality to.
15:09 --> 15:14 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it was, it was a, it was sort of the truest form of America manhood.
15:14 --> 15:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Patriot.
15:16 --> 15:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, all that stuff.
15:17 --> 15:23 [SPEAKER_01]: And then you've got Ozzy Osborn who, you know, justified just told you he's from, you know, England.
15:23 --> 15:24 [SPEAKER_01]: That's enough.
15:24 --> 15:29 [SPEAKER_01]: And statements from, yeah, exactly.
15:29 --> 15:31 [SPEAKER_01]: So he's like, like, couldn't be more opposite.
15:31 --> 15:42 [SPEAKER_01]: But now he, we are sitting here going, well, who seemed like the, maybe the, who might have actually been a little bit more wholesome when all things were said and compared to each other.
15:45 --> 15:50 [SPEAKER_02]: When I was a young man, I read a Christian apologetics book.
15:51 --> 16:00 [SPEAKER_02]: And it was an imagined dialogue between JFK, CS Lewis, and Aldous Huxley, who all died within hours of each other.
16:02 --> 16:13 [SPEAKER_02]: And in this book, the three find themselves on a kind of a purgatory type of place before they reach judgment.
16:14 --> 16:23 [SPEAKER_02]: And they have this long dialogue about sort of the nature of reality, the nature of God, the nature of the human spirit.
16:24 --> 16:26 [SPEAKER_02]: And they each have a very different perspective.
16:27 --> 16:34 [SPEAKER_02]: And I would like to see something like that written, but the dialogue is in between Osirah's points.
16:34 --> 16:35 [SPEAKER_02]: Polk Hogan and Malcolm Jamal.
16:35 --> 16:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I have the idea of Malcolm, just being like, I don't know what either of you are saying right now.
16:41 --> 16:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, it was in, oh, it was bad.
16:51 --> 16:54 [SPEAKER_02]: Steve, I think we need a goat pen update.
16:55 --> 17:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Today, I will be putting in the flooring for the shed that we've basically turned into a goat barn, and I will create an opening for them.
17:08 --> 17:09 [SPEAKER_01]: But the fence is up.
17:10 --> 17:12 [SPEAKER_01]: The goats are going to live in the shed.
17:12 --> 17:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's what they'll go.
17:15 --> 17:17 [SPEAKER_01]: I guess at night, and when the weather is inclimit.
17:19 --> 17:26 [SPEAKER_02]: And then they have the pen, pen is all fenced and it is my understanding that these are deformed goats or mal-shapen.
17:27 --> 17:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, one is refurbished.
17:33 --> 17:42 [SPEAKER_01]: What is it about this goat that is is irregular like a like a pair of Ross jeans, but blemished kind of has like a Stephen Colbert ear.
17:42 --> 17:43 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I got you.
17:45 --> 17:45 [SPEAKER_02]: Gotcha.
17:46 --> 17:46 [SPEAKER_02]: It's not so bad.
17:47 --> 17:50 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you can get pretty far with the Stephen Colbert here.
17:50 --> 17:53 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I mean, until next May, I guess.
17:55 --> 17:55 [SPEAKER_02]: You never know.
17:55 --> 17:59 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you might, that year might pop up elsewhere in our lives.
18:00 --> 18:01 [SPEAKER_02]: True, true.
18:02 --> 18:05 [SPEAKER_02]: So the, the goats, you got two goats coming in.
18:06 --> 18:13 [SPEAKER_02]: You've been working around the clock trying to provide a nice living space for these goats.
18:14 --> 18:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, suitable for shelter for sure.
18:16 --> 18:22 [SPEAKER_02]: Was it Heather pushing for the goats or were you the the goat fishing out out here?
18:23 --> 18:27 [SPEAKER_01]: We got you know, we're uh, we're no stranger to the goats.
18:28 --> 18:30 [SPEAKER_02]: Your goat positive family.
18:30 --> 18:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we've we've we've go did before.
18:32 --> 18:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I don't know.
18:36 --> 18:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Long time ago.
18:36 --> 18:39 [SPEAKER_01]: I remember chickens.
18:39 --> 18:41 [SPEAKER_02]: I definitely remember chickens and
18:42 --> 18:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we had we had two goats dogs of all kinds.
18:45 --> 18:47 [SPEAKER_02]: I think I get to do it for all of you at one point.
18:47 --> 18:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I believe so.
18:49 --> 18:51 [SPEAKER_02]: You had a goat shaped hole in your heart.
18:52 --> 18:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
18:52 --> 18:53 [SPEAKER_01]: It was rectangular.
18:54 --> 19:01 [SPEAKER_01]: And we had an opportunity to have their other has a colleague that raises goats.
19:03 --> 19:11 [SPEAKER_01]: So when an opportunity arose to to take, you know, basically like I, we don't know what to do with this.
19:12 --> 19:28 [SPEAKER_01]: this the form to go to and then of course we're like the goat was too deformed for your for your wife's calling to look at she just couldn't it's anything any sort of
19:33 --> 19:38 [SPEAKER_02]: take my eyes away from the goat pupil would be positive for me.
19:39 --> 19:40 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, that's good.
19:41 --> 19:44 [SPEAKER_02]: So you almost got it ready and then when did the goats actually relocate?
19:44 --> 19:46 [SPEAKER_01]: The goats arrived today, so I'm home.
19:47 --> 19:47 [UNKNOWN]: Okay.
19:48 --> 19:50 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm, you know, it's down to the wire and turn.
19:50 --> 20:00 [SPEAKER_01]: Like I mean, they, they, they're, they're fine, you know, I mean, I think if for some reason, you know, I couldn't deal with the inside of the shed.
20:01 --> 20:02 [SPEAKER_01]: today, but I'll get to it.
20:02 --> 20:04 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll definitely get to it.
20:04 --> 20:05 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll be ready.
20:05 --> 20:10 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll do some other things as time goes on because these are gateway goats.
20:12 --> 20:14 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, that's okay.
20:14 --> 20:18 [SPEAKER_02]: Does that mean that you're in the market for a cow or something?
20:18 --> 20:26 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think it started go to know if we're doing well with these goats, then you know who knows, maybe maybe we'll we'll level up on on how many goats.
20:26 --> 20:26 [SPEAKER_01]: I see.
20:27 --> 20:27 [SPEAKER_02]: I see.
20:27 --> 20:27 [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
20:28 --> 20:28 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
20:29 --> 20:33 [SPEAKER_02]: So Steve, my idea was that we should probably
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20:48 --> 20:53 [SPEAKER_01]: So, X, Y, G at garbage town, USA, right?
20:53 --> 20:58 [SPEAKER_01]: It's good news if we can get you a good rate on your student loan.
21:00 --> 21:09 [SPEAKER_02]: So you may have forgotten this a long time ago, but there is a discord page associate, you know, dedicated to this particular podcast.
21:10 --> 21:12 [SPEAKER_02]: And I feel like I don't check in on it often enough.
21:13 --> 21:13 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
21:13 --> 21:17 [SPEAKER_01]: I checked on it twice ever and I feel bad because I know it exists.
21:17 --> 21:19 [SPEAKER_02]: But you know, you should feel bad.
21:19 --> 21:23 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to go, I'm just going to catch you up on what's happening in the discord page.
21:24 --> 21:25 [SPEAKER_02]: But before I do,
21:26 --> 21:32 [SPEAKER_02]: Doug has written us an iTunes review, which we've promised to read on this podcast.
21:34 --> 21:35 [SPEAKER_02]: So, thank you, Doug.
21:37 --> 21:38 [SPEAKER_02]: Here's what Doug writes.
21:38 --> 21:41 [SPEAKER_02]: He says, absurdly good, five stars.
21:42 --> 21:46 [SPEAKER_02]: Steven Anthony are both very intelligent, funny and insightful.
21:46 --> 21:50 [SPEAKER_02]: I enjoy their discussions, regardless of having seen the movie or not.
21:50 --> 21:54 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, so this is where the review gets a little dubious.
21:56 --> 22:03 [SPEAKER_02]: First, I started listening to perfect stranger things, then to cocoons of horror, then severance and finally electric boot glue.
22:03 --> 22:09 [SPEAKER_02]: I enjoyed the regular life topic so much that I listened to podcasts about TV show I've never watched.
22:11 --> 22:17 [SPEAKER_02]: a second of books that I've never read a word of except to find out who Jack and Hoggar was.
22:21 --> 22:25 [SPEAKER_02]: So I absolutely appreciate the review Doug.
22:26 --> 22:30 [SPEAKER_02]: All nice things to say, I'm a little bit worried.
22:33 --> 22:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, you don't you don't do well with people like liking you or I don't know.
22:38 --> 22:40 [SPEAKER_02]: I look if it seems to me.
22:40 --> 22:43 [SPEAKER_01]: How often do you question Sarah's love for you?
22:43 --> 22:46 [SPEAKER_02]: On a daily basis.
22:46 --> 22:47 [SPEAKER_02]: Why are you still here?
22:48 --> 22:49 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm so gross.
22:51 --> 22:51 [SPEAKER_02]: Look at me.
22:51 --> 22:53 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm serious.
22:53 --> 22:54 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm serious.
22:54 --> 22:56 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm serious.
22:56 --> 22:59 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm the sickness and sickness and health.
23:00 --> 23:09 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how I feel about someone listening and enjoying but not having reviewed the content that we're discussing.
23:09 --> 23:14 [SPEAKER_01]: I think not watching Hero at large is the best move.
23:15 --> 23:22 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, that does bring me to another element of just to catch you up on our discord page.
23:22 --> 23:26 [SPEAKER_02]: This is an exchange between three of our listeners.
23:27 --> 23:28 [SPEAKER_02]: And I just thought I all of them.
23:30 --> 23:34 [SPEAKER_02]: But I'd read you what these voices have to contribute.
23:36 --> 23:40 [SPEAKER_02]: Voice one, I've never even heard of Hero at large, but that looks fun.
23:40 --> 23:42 [SPEAKER_02]: No one has.
23:46 --> 23:49 [SPEAKER_02]: Which is why it's a perfect movie for properly Howard.
23:49 --> 23:53 [SPEAKER_02]: So I just thought that that little exchange, I just feel like these folks guess.
23:54 --> 23:56 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they're very in on the joke.
23:57 --> 24:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I just wonder if like because sometimes I start to like you don't want to like just be a one trick pony, but like a people are like wait a minute, like no country for old man once upon a time in Hollywood.
24:09 --> 24:15 [SPEAKER_02]: I've seen in my view that, you know, create a podcast that three people will like a lot.
24:16 --> 24:18 [SPEAKER_02]: And no one was listening to it.
24:19 --> 24:21 [SPEAKER_01]: And then straight from the formula so you lose those three.
24:25 --> 24:27 [SPEAKER_02]: This is also from the discord.
24:27 --> 24:36 [SPEAKER_02]: Aisha doesn't really have a question, but she just contributed that big trouble, little China's one of her very favorite films.
24:37 --> 24:41 [SPEAKER_02]: And she's sort of wondering why that might be the case.
24:42 --> 24:50 [SPEAKER_02]: She says, maybe it's because I'm like Jack Burton too much confidence, zero skills, and she can talk and drive it the same time.
24:50 --> 24:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's that's pretty good.
24:52 --> 24:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Everyone can.
24:53 --> 24:53 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
24:53 --> 24:54 [SPEAKER_02]: No, I was thinking about that.
24:54 --> 24:57 [SPEAKER_02]: That's like talking and driving at the same time.
24:57 --> 25:00 [SPEAKER_02]: Don't don't don't ever rate your it's off.
25:00 --> 25:01 [SPEAKER_02]: Asia.
25:01 --> 25:01 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
25:01 --> 25:05 [SPEAKER_02]: That that's something that not not many people can do well.
25:06 --> 25:10 [SPEAKER_01]: So the CB radio is that exempt from the whole hands free rule.
25:12 --> 25:18 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, okay, does Jack is Jack Burton holding the little device?
25:18 --> 25:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Because it's my best idea to do Jack.
25:21 --> 25:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, sir, the Jack is in the mail.
25:24 --> 25:28 [SPEAKER_02]: Hands free wasn't really even a thing until there were cell phones, right?
25:28 --> 25:29 [SPEAKER_02]: Sure, sure.
25:29 --> 25:32 [SPEAKER_02]: Really even smartphones were sort of all right.
25:32 --> 25:37 [SPEAKER_02]: So you asked if the CB has been grandfathered in.
25:37 --> 25:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like if that, you know,
25:39 --> 25:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Because I mean, I mean, the hands free CB has to exist.
25:42 --> 25:44 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't even like do people CB anymore?
25:45 --> 25:49 [SPEAKER_02]: Seems like there'd be some kind of headset involved in CB in these.
25:49 --> 25:51 [SPEAKER_02]: I do have a friend who's a truck driver.
25:51 --> 25:52 [SPEAKER_02]: I could ask him.
25:53 --> 25:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because I just would think that maybe the CB is gone the way the DCR.
25:59 --> 26:23 [SPEAKER_02]: I would like to know this because I'm sure that all of the banter that's happening on CB radio is on the up and up for sure is discord basically the new CB yeah now I'm sure I'm sure that it has been supplanted but you know what you never know when you're going to return to the old ways
26:24 --> 26:29 [SPEAKER_01]: CB has lost much of its original appeal due to development of mobile phones, the internet, and the family radio service.
26:32 --> 26:33 [SPEAKER_02]: I suggest we go back.
26:33 --> 26:37 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to, I'm just feeling we have to have no choice now.
26:37 --> 26:39 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to make this announcement from now on.
26:40 --> 26:48 [SPEAKER_02]: Properly Howard will be a podcast that's only conducted via CB CB and well, well, one of us is driving.
26:49 --> 27:03 [SPEAKER_01]: I guess there's I'm reading here that CB radio is once again gained popularity in recent years and up to not seen since the nineties manufactured report increase in sales while social media sites like YouTube show a growing popularity in CB radio content mainly as a hobby.
27:04 --> 27:05 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
27:06 --> 27:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Have you ever in earnest said the phrase breaker breaker one nine?
27:12 --> 27:13 [SPEAKER_02]: Not an earnest.
27:13 --> 27:20 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think, you know, we, I don't know how often you were into walkie-talkies as a kid.
27:21 --> 27:29 [SPEAKER_02]: But a lot of our walkie-talkie banter was sort of a mimic of the kind of stuff we would hear in a CB radio.
27:30 --> 27:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
27:30 --> 27:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Like we didn't really know, we just sort of like, oh, BJ and the bear is teaching us this and so.
27:39 --> 27:45 [SPEAKER_01]: like I don't know like I don't you know I mean it would be fun if we had to do our podcast and every time like I gave a hot take I had to say over.
27:50 --> 28:01 [SPEAKER_02]: I think it'd be great if we actually had to push a button that would silence the other person so a lot of our conversation just like what your fingers on the button I didn't hear you over.
28:03 --> 28:06 [SPEAKER_02]: This is also from the discord.
28:06 --> 28:11 [SPEAKER_02]: Lots of discussion on discord about whether Rocky is a sports movie.
28:15 --> 28:18 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just glad that the discussion is happening.
28:19 --> 28:23 [SPEAKER_02]: I want that to be a common topic of conversation.
28:24 --> 28:29 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if it needs to be settled, but I'm glad that it's an open question, right?
28:31 --> 28:33 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not not a sports movie.
28:33 --> 28:38 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, but I mean, like you could, it's the same question as is Caddy Shack a sports movie.
28:39 --> 28:39 [SPEAKER_02]: It's hard enough.
28:39 --> 28:42 [SPEAKER_02]: Rocky is creating the tropes.
28:43 --> 28:51 [SPEAKER_02]: A lot of the tropes that's using or whether like would some of the like the issue of like having a sports montage.
28:51 --> 28:53 [SPEAKER_02]: Did that exist before Rocky?
28:53 --> 28:54 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
28:54 --> 28:55 [SPEAKER_02]: No, that's a question.
28:56 --> 28:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I mean, there's all these arguments, right?
28:58 --> 29:00 [SPEAKER_01]: All Rockies of Love Story, Air Buds of Love Story.
29:00 --> 29:01 [SPEAKER_01]: There's all these different things.
29:01 --> 29:05 [SPEAKER_01]: If we want to really focus in on the sports aspect versus the subtext.
29:09 --> 29:19 [SPEAKER_02]: Airbud is always kind of been a running joke and between my wife and I. We've never seen it, you know, whenever we can't think of something to watch to be like, well, there's always airbud.
29:20 --> 29:32 [SPEAKER_02]: And then we, this was, I don't know, twenty years ago, but we happened to be in a city where the director of airbud was going to be giving a talk.
29:35 --> 29:41 [SPEAKER_02]: And I have about air, but just about sort of directing, you know, the process of directing.
29:41 --> 29:42 [SPEAKER_02]: Forget the guy's name.
29:42 --> 29:44 [SPEAKER_01]: I love the idea that there's this place.
29:44 --> 29:45 [SPEAKER_01]: I just like, hey, you only really want to.
29:46 --> 29:50 [SPEAKER_01]: to get a symposium about directing, is there anyone that we can afford or get?
29:50 --> 29:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
29:51 --> 29:53 [SPEAKER_02]: And I thought, I'm going to check this out.
29:53 --> 29:55 [SPEAKER_02]: So I decided to go.
29:55 --> 29:57 [SPEAKER_02]: And I said it in the first ten minutes.
29:58 --> 30:00 [SPEAKER_02]: And he started with a great joke.
30:00 --> 30:02 [SPEAKER_02]: And I thought, you know, it's pretty good.
30:02 --> 30:03 [SPEAKER_02]: It's pretty good joke.
30:03 --> 30:08 [SPEAKER_02]: He said, you know, when you're right fiction, they say, right what you know.
30:09 --> 30:10 [SPEAKER_02]: So I wrote airbud.
30:13 --> 30:14 [SPEAKER_02]: That time I was pretty good.
30:14 --> 30:15 [SPEAKER_02]: That's pretty.
30:15 --> 30:15 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
30:15 --> 30:20 [SPEAKER_02]: Didn't, didn't, wasn't good enough to make me want to go see airbud or any of the sequels.
30:22 --> 30:23 [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
30:24 --> 30:25 [SPEAKER_02]: There is a, all right.
30:25 --> 30:33 [SPEAKER_02]: So we are on the topic of genre and genre bending and that brings us to Davey Mac, who asked this.
30:33 --> 30:36 [SPEAKER_01]: That was going to bring us to airbud to a golden receiver.
30:38 --> 30:41 [SPEAKER_02]: entire season based on airblood too.
30:44 --> 30:48 [SPEAKER_02]: This is specifically related to this season, right?
30:48 --> 30:56 [SPEAKER_02]: So Davey Mac writes, for the no-country and old men episode one of my favorite films, my question around your discussion of whether no country qualifies as a western.
30:57 --> 31:15 [SPEAKER_02]: Just curious if you are aware of the idea of genre cycles where genre starts in the innovation experiment experimentation phase, then as the genre solidifies it moves into a classical phase, then after time the tropes get tired and the parody phase is born.
31:16 --> 31:19 [SPEAKER_02]: The last phase is the revisionist phase.
31:19 --> 31:22 [SPEAKER_02]: And he thinks that no country is a revisionist Western.
31:22 --> 31:27 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not familiar with this cycle, but I like it a lot.
31:28 --> 31:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that's kind of maybe, maybe, you know, having all the information on it.
31:35 --> 31:38 [SPEAKER_01]: I kind of feel like maybe that's what the point I was trying to make.
31:38 --> 31:44 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's possible that we were sort of working with sort of rudimentary categories.
31:45 --> 31:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we didn't have the terminology or the intelligence.
31:50 --> 31:50 [SPEAKER_02]: No, we were dumb.
31:51 --> 31:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know.
31:53 --> 31:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I wouldn't put it in past tense.
31:54 --> 31:56 [SPEAKER_01]: They're still much more we can do.
31:57 --> 31:59 [SPEAKER_02]: So I like this idea.
31:59 --> 32:02 [SPEAKER_02]: He's calling no country a revisionist Western.
32:03 --> 32:12 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so yeah, I guess my question would be like revising in unique ways, right?
32:13 --> 32:19 [SPEAKER_02]: because you kept a lot of the tropes intact in this one you have to write to maintain the genre.
32:21 --> 32:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I mean, because otherwise, because I mean, you can't revise the genre and then not, like you're thinking in order to do that, you have to like still support pay tribute to the tropes elements.
32:37 --> 32:38 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, let me ask you this, like,
32:41 --> 32:45 [SPEAKER_02]: How much revision would be necessary to consider a revisionist Western?
32:46 --> 32:56 [SPEAKER_02]: Because if it's just like a tiny variation on an old trope, it feels to me like, that's not enough revision.
32:56 --> 33:00 [SPEAKER_01]: I think I feel like, and again, we're working with
33:02 --> 33:04 [SPEAKER_01]: almost no knowledge, which is really good for.
33:04 --> 33:04 [SPEAKER_01]: No, that is.
33:04 --> 33:07 [SPEAKER_02]: At this point, that's our brand.
33:07 --> 33:08 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
33:08 --> 33:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
33:10 --> 33:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, spoiler alert.
33:11 --> 33:12 [SPEAKER_01]: We've never watched these movies either.
33:14 --> 33:28 [SPEAKER_01]: The, uh, I think you, in order to be over, I would think that for Verizon is to sort of up and maybe not necessarily just the expectations, but to take some of the tropes and then you, you, uh, subvert them, right?
33:28 --> 33:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Like you,
33:29 --> 33:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe are looking through a lens that's maybe a little bit more critical with more like with maybe maybe a touch of realism like like for a western for example, if you take the maybe some of the early westerns and they have sort of this like very prototypical you know good guy bad guy.
33:46 --> 33:53 [SPEAKER_01]: There's a little bit of dirt and grime and everything but there's still somewhat of this sense of like heroes and villains and those are clearly.
33:54 --> 34:20 [SPEAKER_01]: outlined and then they're they're either added color whereas in this one we don't we we have a lot more shades of gray and even the um the the oh this you know time in the Jones is a good sheriff it's like yeah but he's also real tired and doesn't really get his man so that I think is like the subversion right wouldn't and so you overlay this idea of realism and I wouldn't say like
34:22 --> 34:32 [SPEAKER_01]: nihilism per se, but like there it does take away some of what you would expect writing off into the sunset that's just does not happen right.
34:33 --> 34:34 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
34:34 --> 34:36 [SPEAKER_02]: I still feel I don't know what you want.
34:36 --> 34:38 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what I want either.
34:38 --> 34:43 [SPEAKER_02]: I do still feel like it's more western than it is revisionist western.
34:43 --> 34:46 [SPEAKER_02]: And I, I think I think that's where the
34:47 --> 34:52 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's the problem you're having is that you're suggesting that a revisionist Western is not a Western.
34:52 --> 34:56 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think the whole point is what he's saying is that this is the cycle of the genre.
34:57 --> 35:00 [SPEAKER_01]: So therefore, this is your, this is a Western.
35:01 --> 35:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Call it a revisionist Western does not negate its Western sensibility, but it basically is saying that this is, this is an, an evolved version of the Western.
35:12 --> 35:12 [SPEAKER_02]: I get it.
35:14 --> 35:14 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think so.
35:18 --> 35:19 [SPEAKER_02]: You're right.
35:19 --> 35:19 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't get it.
35:21 --> 35:21 [SPEAKER_02]: Moving on.
35:22 --> 35:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
35:23 --> 35:26 [SPEAKER_01]: I get it in so much as I have more to talk about.
35:26 --> 35:29 [SPEAKER_02]: Ah, this is our old buddy.
35:29 --> 35:30 [SPEAKER_02]: Don't hassle the off.
35:31 --> 35:39 [SPEAKER_02]: Congrats on a new season when you first floated the bacon ideas and sure you be able to pull off the draft let alone pack a season full of such great movies.
35:40 --> 35:45 [SPEAKER_02]: I shall never doubt the genius of the properly Howard podcast model again.
35:45 --> 35:47 [SPEAKER_02]: I learned a few things.
35:47 --> 35:48 [SPEAKER_02]: Dancing is dangerous.
35:50 --> 35:52 [SPEAKER_02]: Inflating an Asian man is probably racist.
35:54 --> 35:56 [SPEAKER_01]: Anthony has an affinity for hippies, I do.
36:02 --> 36:03 [SPEAKER_02]: And now I'm going to say this wrong.
36:03 --> 36:08 [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, vapid is one of the more confounding words in our language.
36:08 --> 36:10 [SPEAKER_02]: I say wrong for shooting you for sure set it wrong.
36:10 --> 36:10 [SPEAKER_02]: Dammit.
36:10 --> 36:11 [SPEAKER_01]: That's your that's your thing.
36:12 --> 36:13 [SPEAKER_02]: It's getting to be my thing.
36:14 --> 36:17 [SPEAKER_02]: Vapid is one of the more confounding words in our language.
36:18 --> 36:25 [SPEAKER_02]: And, uh, and measles is probably or just a small thing.
36:25 --> 36:27 [SPEAKER_02]: It's just a slightly.
36:27 --> 36:28 [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
36:29 --> 36:30 [SPEAKER_02]: He has a couple questions.
36:31 --> 36:43 [SPEAKER_02]: For Steve, if your original shark needle script had been sold in Greenlet, which of these bacon wrapped directors would have been the best fit to direct it.
36:44 --> 36:48 [SPEAKER_02]: John Hughes, John Carpenter, Quentin Tarantino, or the Cone Brothers.
36:50 --> 36:54 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, honestly, it's carpenter would be amazing.
36:55 --> 36:57 [SPEAKER_02]: Carpenter would be the best for sure for that one.
36:58 --> 37:03 [SPEAKER_02]: Unless, if you could actually resurrect John Hughes, that would sell the movie, right?
37:04 --> 37:07 [SPEAKER_01]: We're just, I'll just weaken it, Bernie, so I'm just like, get the credit.
37:07 --> 37:08 [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
37:08 --> 37:09 [SPEAKER_02]: This is for Anthony.
37:10 --> 37:22 [SPEAKER_02]: Who's the biggest threat to society in these first five movies out of both when David Lopan, Rucker Howard's vampire, Lothos, Charles Manson or Anton Sugar.
37:24 --> 37:40 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, in so much as Anton Chagur is kind of a metaphor for, uh, for Alec Baldwin's character in, uh, and I'm telling you guys, I'm metaphor for a real life Alec Baldwin.
37:45 --> 37:52 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, I'm not worried about David Little Pan, uh, because I don't, I'm, I don't have green eyes.
37:53 --> 37:53 [SPEAKER_02]: Uh,
37:55 --> 37:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Riker Hours is a very specific journey.
37:59 --> 38:01 [SPEAKER_02]: Riker Hours Vampire Loathos.
38:04 --> 38:05 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he's more silly.
38:08 --> 38:11 [SPEAKER_02]: Charles Manson is long, long, long gone.
38:13 --> 38:18 [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm going to say sort of Anton Sugar probably would be the would be my choice here.
38:20 --> 38:21 [SPEAKER_02]: Thanks for getting me through.
38:22 --> 38:24 [SPEAKER_02]: My boring work days don't hassle the Hof.
38:24 --> 38:25 [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
38:26 --> 38:27 [SPEAKER_02]: Hof for that.
38:31 --> 38:33 [SPEAKER_02]: Some other discord conversations.
38:34 --> 38:41 [SPEAKER_02]: There was some indignation that tell you, Sevalas and you'll Brenner were not mentioned in our best bold actors discussion.
38:43 --> 38:46 [SPEAKER_02]: So I guess I should issue a mayor culpa for that.
38:47 --> 38:48 [SPEAKER_01]: No, I think you've got to stand on it.
38:50 --> 38:52 [SPEAKER_02]: I guess you know what I'll be honest.
38:52 --> 39:08 [SPEAKER_02]: I think I've seen one you'll Brenner movie and I never really was into any sort of telly's of all this I only I think I've only seen one you'll Brenner movie as well and that's Westworld Westworld that's right
39:10 --> 39:12 [SPEAKER_02]: spilled your drink, slappy with your drink.
39:15 --> 39:20 [SPEAKER_02]: And then there was some sort of respectful disagreement with my yucky now, the penguin.
39:21 --> 39:25 [SPEAKER_02]: So, I think I'm staying my ground on that one.
39:25 --> 39:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the, the, the Emmy's seem to enjoy.
39:27 --> 39:30 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, whatever.
39:30 --> 39:39 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you see, every, every, every main character in severances is up for, is that right?
39:40 --> 39:41 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's fantastic news.
39:43 --> 39:46 [SPEAKER_02]: Again, you know, it's like, does it do the Emmys really matter?
39:46 --> 39:53 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, have you ever watched the Emmys on like the televised award show?
39:54 --> 39:56 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm sure when we had three channels.
39:57 --> 39:59 [SPEAKER_02]: I've never watched the Emmys.
39:59 --> 40:02 [SPEAKER_02]: I've watched the Oscars tons throughout the years.
40:03 --> 40:07 [SPEAKER_02]: And I have to say even that the Oscars really matter, but I at least I watch it.
40:07 --> 40:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
40:08 --> 40:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I think it has something to do with how much TV you watch, maybe?
40:12 --> 40:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't know.
40:13 --> 40:19 [SPEAKER_01]: I just, I've never seen the amaze as being particularly like, like, golden globes.
40:19 --> 40:21 [SPEAKER_01]: I think it would be more interesting than the amaze.
40:22 --> 40:25 [SPEAKER_02]: Again, have you ever watched the golden globes?
40:25 --> 40:26 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, no.
40:26 --> 40:30 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I've watched, I've watched like bits on YouTube, I suppose.
40:30 --> 40:35 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just saying, I don't really, I don't really put a lot of stock into these award shows.
40:36 --> 40:38 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't even put stock into the awards one.
40:39 --> 40:44 [SPEAKER_02]: except for every now and again, I'll look at them and scratch their head and thinking, how on earth did that happen?
40:45 --> 40:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I used to like the MTV movie or video words that are those like video awards and then the MTV movie awards that I worked were good.
40:55 --> 41:02 [SPEAKER_01]: I was of that age where like, you know, they would do some kind of silly things every once in a while.
41:02 --> 41:04 [SPEAKER_01]: So it wasn't like it was fun.
41:04 --> 41:06 [SPEAKER_01]: It didn't feel like it took itself too seriously.
41:06 --> 41:10 [SPEAKER_02]: As always, we would love iTunes reviews.
41:11 --> 41:14 [SPEAKER_02]: We'll read them on this podcast if you write one.
41:15 --> 41:19 [SPEAKER_02]: Any emails can be sent to cocoons of horror at gmail.com.
41:20 --> 41:28 [SPEAKER_02]: And if you know how to look up things on discord, I would imagine you'd be able to find probably Howard.
41:31 --> 41:32 [SPEAKER_02]: I cannot tell you how to do that.
41:33 --> 41:34 [SPEAKER_02]: I just, I have a link.
41:36 --> 41:43 [SPEAKER_02]: They sent me something, I pressed the button, and I see people telling me that my takes on the penguin are missing.
42:51 --> 42:56 [UNKNOWN]: In a cocoon of horror