Jean and Elysia convene to assess the states of both the MCU and DCU going into 2026, pitting them head-to-head across 4 categories. What upcoming projects get them (and you) most excited, and when the votes are tallied, which franchise will they crown the current winner?
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00:17 --> 00:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Hello, welcome to Comics Versus, a lower-hounds podcast.
00:21 --> 00:25 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm Alicia, your tour guide to interdimensional superhero cinematics.
00:26 --> 00:31 [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm John, just looking for a portal out of here, but I'll take the movie this then.
00:31 --> 00:34 [SPEAKER_02]: So let's just get into our first escapeous head-to-head.
00:35 --> 00:45 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a new year, and the MCU and DCU are promising to keep us entertained, but which will keep us the most entertained.
00:45 --> 00:54 [SPEAKER_01]: So you and I have gathered here today to look at the two of these across three categories.
00:54 --> 00:57 [SPEAKER_01]: We've got twenty twenty six movies.
00:57 --> 01:01 [SPEAKER_01]: We've got twenty twenty six TV shows for each MCU and DCU.
01:02 --> 01:10 [SPEAKER_01]: And then we're going to look at what we hear or know of is in the pipeline after that with the future of these franchises look like.
01:10 --> 01:19 [SPEAKER_01]: So in each category, we will declare a winner or maybe a tie, and then ultimately who is winning 2026 going in?
01:20 --> 01:21 [SPEAKER_02]: No ties.
01:21 --> 01:22 [SPEAKER_01]: No ties.
01:22 --> 01:23 [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
01:23 --> 01:23 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll see.
01:24 --> 01:24 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I don't know.
01:24 --> 01:27 [SPEAKER_01]: You and I might feel differently about some things.
01:27 --> 01:27 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll see.
01:28 --> 01:28 [SPEAKER_02]: No ties.
01:29 --> 01:30 [SPEAKER_02]: Clear winners.
01:30 --> 01:37 [SPEAKER_01]: If there's a tie, then dear listener, you get to be the tie ringer and she's with no ties, but no ties.
01:40 --> 01:44 [SPEAKER_01]: So before we get into 20, 20, 26, let's look back on 20, 25.
01:44 --> 01:50 [SPEAKER_01]: This is, we've, of course, covered all of these things that we're about to mention in dedicated episodes.
01:51 --> 01:54 [SPEAKER_01]: I guess we'll try to avoid big spoilers for this part.
01:55 --> 02:00 [SPEAKER_01]: They've all been out for a while, but we know there's a lot on TV,
02:00 --> 02:03 [SPEAKER_01]: But we'll just share like what are our general feelings.
02:03 --> 02:06 [SPEAKER_01]: So starting with what do you want to start with?
02:06 --> 02:13 [SPEAKER_01]: You want to set up, set up, jump for us, what went on in 2025 in the MCU?
02:14 --> 02:23 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so to start off the year, we had your friendly neighborhood Spider-Man animated show.
02:24 --> 02:24 [SPEAKER_01]: We both liked it.
02:25 --> 02:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
02:25 --> 02:30 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I actually watched it with E for those who don't know E is my nine-year-old.
02:31 --> 02:32 [SPEAKER_02]: was my eight-year-old then.
02:33 --> 02:35 [SPEAKER_02]: And we both really loved it.
02:35 --> 02:47 [SPEAKER_02]: I think there were some important lessons for him to learn in that show around friendship and fear of missing out.
02:49 --> 02:50 [SPEAKER_02]: And not having that.
02:50 --> 02:53 [SPEAKER_02]: So it was a really good show for us to watch together.
02:54 --> 02:55 [SPEAKER_02]: I put the animation was great.
02:56 --> 03:01 [SPEAKER_02]: The story was
03:01 --> 03:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and me watching it as someone who doesn't have a kid, but I was, so it's just watching it as an adult who enjoys animation and doesn't turn my nose up, it's stuff that's, I mean, it's, it's definitely kid-friendly, but it's not four kids the way like, you know, Jedi adventures is or something or a spideon friend, you know, it's kind of kid show.
03:21 --> 03:23 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think I would have let him watch it by himself.
03:24 --> 03:29 [SPEAKER_01]: No, okay, because you want to like talk to him about the stuff that comes up.
03:29 --> 03:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it has complexities and nuance that I like that.
03:32 --> 03:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, um, we were less excited about the second MCU offering.
03:39 --> 03:41 [SPEAKER_01]: This is all phase five still, by the way.
03:41 --> 03:48 [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, the second was Captain America, brave new worlds that came out on Valentine's Day of 2025, and um,
03:49 --> 04:03 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think either of us felt that it was a really worthy successor to the storyline that they had been setting up with Sam Wilson and Isaiah and just that whole side of things that really kind of dropped the ball there.
04:03 --> 04:19 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, definitely they dropped the ball, some of the sequences were gorgeous, you know, has Marvel tends to do, they more often than not get the visuals downpack.
04:19 --> 04:31 [SPEAKER_02]: So there are some scenes in that movie that are just like, wow, to look at, but overall, the movie was not a favorite of mine at all.
04:31 --> 04:36 [SPEAKER_01]: No, actually, I think it might even be currently my lowest rated movie of the year.
04:37 --> 04:37 [SPEAKER_01]: It's feature links.
04:39 --> 04:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah, I just, I think I got really frustrated with it.
04:42 --> 04:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Just, it, it, it wasn't just that it was empty.
04:45 --> 05:00 [SPEAKER_01]: It was that it took something that I felt had real, I mean, I thought that Cap, uh, Falcon in the Winter Soldier was an imperfect show and I did blame, uh, gave a lot of COVID passes out for stuff that, you know, was affected by that.
05:00 --> 05:02 [SPEAKER_01]: And that's definitely the case.
05:02 --> 05:11 [SPEAKER_01]: But I thought what it had in there, it makes it one of the shows from Marvel that I still think about the most.
05:11 --> 05:15 [SPEAKER_01]: And the fact that they just squander that just really pissed me off.
05:15 --> 05:17 [SPEAKER_01]: So that's why I thought I was treated for one of the year.
05:17 --> 05:23 [SPEAKER_02]: And the last thing I'll say about Brave New World is that I think there's a really good movie in there.
05:24 --> 05:26 [SPEAKER_02]: But they were too afraid.
05:27 --> 05:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
05:29 --> 05:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, you could just see it.
05:31 --> 05:33 [SPEAKER_02]: It was a really good story in there.
05:33 --> 05:35 [SPEAKER_01]: It there's like this fear and dancing around.
05:36 --> 05:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
05:37 --> 05:37 [SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
05:37 --> 05:45 [SPEAKER_02]: And it was just so afraid of telling the story that they had, that it just made the movie to me on bearer.
05:46 --> 05:50 [SPEAKER_01]: And we will never forgive Samuel sin for telling us we ought to go back and wait and go.
05:50 --> 05:52 [SPEAKER_02]: Go back to jail, to fuck.
05:53 --> 06:19 [SPEAKER_01]: knowing he's an innocent man obviously just terrible all around yeah anyway so we like the next one though thunderbolt came out may second you missed one you skipped the you skipped oh I'm sorry I'm sorry we'll like this one too so you feel as if what is it what did I skip well we you skipped them their devil born again that came out in marriage much foife
06:19 --> 06:28 [SPEAKER_02]: um, which is a continuation of the Netflix series, uh, so again, this is something that we both like.
06:28 --> 06:35 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think, you know, Vincent de Nafrio continues to be amazing in the role of the king fan.
06:36 --> 06:46 [SPEAKER_02]: And he is just, um, his Wilson Fisk is, every bit as good as Colin Farrow's penguin.
06:46 --> 06:57 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think we should really do a study on both of these actors playing these roles and inhabiting these roles in the way that they did.
06:58 --> 07:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, this is, they wisely leaned into their strength, which is the Matt Murdoch versus Kingpin dynamic, and those are the two powerhouse actors who are just incredible, like, gifts from the heavens for these roles, you know, and they leaned into that a lot.
07:19 --> 07:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, it was an imperfect season.
07:21 --> 07:26 [SPEAKER_01]: We discussed that a lot in our, we did breakdowns every few days, Luke joined us also.
07:26 --> 07:34 [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, it was, it was imperfect, but it was also, I gave a pass there because I know they changed.
07:35 --> 07:41 [SPEAKER_01]: They changed, you know, the showrunners and directors and things like that, they kind of rewrote it halfway through.
07:41 --> 07:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
07:42 --> 07:44 [SPEAKER_01]: And I am glad with the direction they're going.
07:44 --> 07:51 [SPEAKER_01]: So now we get to see what if this team, you know, what can they do when they are envisioning it?
07:51 --> 07:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, we'll talk about that with season two.
07:53 --> 07:55 [SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, season one, I liked it.
07:55 --> 07:57 [SPEAKER_01]: It makes me look more forward to season two.
07:58 --> 08:00 [SPEAKER_01]: And then Thunderbolts came out in May.
08:00 --> 08:02 [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, that's on that.
08:02 --> 08:24 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that was a great movie, it was a great movie, it was so emotional and so heartfelt and really told an amazing story in the superhero genre that maybe you can hope that other movies, other
08:24 --> 08:40 [SPEAKER_02]: producers and directors, you know, take a look at it and say, hey, we can tell complicated and hard and difficult stories, has still made them enjoyable, has still had made them poignant, and still make them relatable to no photo audience.
08:40 --> 08:54 [SPEAKER_02]: So this was, and especially, high ranking movie for me, and there's just one scene where they have the century being overtaken by
08:54 --> 09:01 [SPEAKER_02]: by the void that I think the visuals for that just stand out and a year of stand out visuals.
09:01 --> 09:04 [SPEAKER_02]: This was one of those moments that really was like oh shit.
09:05 --> 09:06 [SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
09:07 --> 09:09 [SPEAKER_02]: No, so yeah.
09:09 --> 09:09 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
09:10 --> 09:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, this and Superman keep swapping places for my top superhero film of the year.
09:17 --> 09:23 [SPEAKER_01]: They've both clung on in my top 20 and I'm saying this is someone who watches literally hundreds of movies every year.
09:23 --> 09:29 [SPEAKER_01]: So I really think that Thunderbolts was something special.
09:29 --> 09:41 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that they fortunately realize that we'll talk about that as we do the preview for 2026 and where we might be getting this kind of talent, but this is what, you know, if we compare this to Captain America, which we're going to have to.
09:41 --> 09:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
09:44 --> 09:47 [SPEAKER_01]: This is what we want to see them doing.
09:47 --> 09:53 [SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't have to be expensive, you know, of course it's expensive, but it's not as expensive as other films.
09:54 --> 09:58 [SPEAKER_01]: It's about it comes down to do we care about these characters.
09:58 --> 10:10 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think, you know, Marvel gets rightfully, a lot of a lot of pushback on the fact that they do these Rockham Sockham finale's all the time.
10:11 --> 10:13 [SPEAKER_01]: And this was something else.
10:13 --> 10:14 [SPEAKER_01]: This was something that was more meaningful.
10:14 --> 10:15 [SPEAKER_01]: It touched me personally.
10:15 --> 10:18 [SPEAKER_01]: I know it touched a lot of other people in a very personal level.
10:19 --> 10:24 [SPEAKER_01]: And I just urge anyone who hasn't watched it yet, just, it's out on streaming now, just.
10:24 --> 10:25 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, given us, given a try.
10:26 --> 10:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Take a couple of hours and you might find yourself quite surprised.
10:30 --> 10:32 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, definitely.
10:32 --> 10:38 [SPEAKER_01]: And then closing out phase five, we had Iron Hearts, which, again, we both quite liked.
10:39 --> 10:42 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, yes, yes, except that ending.
10:44 --> 10:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Why, why said, will you just mad at her?
10:47 --> 10:50 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm mad at her.
10:50 --> 10:51 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just mad.
10:53 --> 10:53 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.
10:55 --> 11:00 [SPEAKER_02]: No, like no, but they got to pay it off.
11:00 --> 11:01 [SPEAKER_01]: They got to pay it off.
11:01 --> 11:05 [SPEAKER_02]: That's why that's part of why I'm like just no because I don't know if it will be paid off.
11:06 --> 11:12 [SPEAKER_02]: I know and just Yeah, just I
11:12 --> 11:20 [SPEAKER_02]: great series of really wonderful and proper introduction to it for a character in rev Williams.
11:21 --> 11:32 [SPEAKER_02]: I think we get to know her, we get to know her circumstances and why she is, why she is, you know why she does, there's that she does.
11:32 --> 11:45 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, she makes me mad, she makes me happy, um, she invokes in me all sorts of paternalistic and I don't mean that in the horrible way, but you know, like,
11:47 --> 11:54 [SPEAKER_02]: I can see my nieces and if I had a daughter like me saying, why?
11:54 --> 11:55 [SPEAKER_02]: Why are you doing this?
11:55 --> 11:56 [SPEAKER_02]: You're like, don't do this.
11:57 --> 11:59 [SPEAKER_02]: Don't go down this road.
11:59 --> 11:59 [SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?
11:59 --> 12:06 [SPEAKER_02]: All the protectiveness that I have for my own child, it was just like...
12:06 --> 12:12 [SPEAKER_02]: If he goes through this, how am I going to handle it?
12:12 --> 12:12 [SPEAKER_02]: What do I say?
12:12 --> 12:19 [SPEAKER_02]: And I can feel that watching does show and that was really plaintiff for me.
12:19 --> 12:20 [SPEAKER_02]: That was really powerful.
12:20 --> 12:22 [SPEAKER_02]: And I thought it was overall.
12:22 --> 12:23 [SPEAKER_02]: It was a good series.
12:24 --> 12:33 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think, again, this is one that people should give a chance.
12:34 --> 12:36 [SPEAKER_02]: where she will fit in.
12:38 --> 12:40 [SPEAKER_02]: The new MCU.
12:41 --> 12:41 [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
12:41 --> 12:50 [SPEAKER_02]: But for this moment, it captures who she is as a character quite well.
12:50 --> 12:52 [SPEAKER_02]: And I know that was awesome.
12:53 --> 12:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
12:54 --> 13:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I am really hoping that they don't just skip over that whole Champions generation that they were going to do with Cape Bishop and Riri and, you know, Kamala and all that because, yeah, it was very, I was really excited for that.
13:11 --> 13:14 [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm still, I'm going to hold my breath see what happens.
13:15 --> 13:21 [SPEAKER_01]: They're holding their cards much closer to their chest now and they're out trying to slow down releases.
13:21 --> 13:22 [SPEAKER_01]: So we'll talk about that.
13:23 --> 13:30 [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, they certainly did not slow down in 2025 because we also then got the fantastic four first steps.
13:30 --> 13:34 [SPEAKER_01]: This was the first part of phase six, the final phase of the multiverse saga.
13:35 --> 13:39 [SPEAKER_01]: So fantastic four released July 25th, Jaha.
13:39 --> 13:43 [SPEAKER_01]: I think you and I might, this, we might have slightly different opinions on this one.
13:44 --> 13:46 [SPEAKER_01]: What are your thoughts on fantastic four first steps?
13:46 --> 13:47 [SPEAKER_02]: I liked it.
13:48 --> 13:50 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I liked the film.
13:50 --> 13:51 [SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was um,
13:52 --> 13:58 [SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was a fun film, I thought it was, I thought it captured the spirit of the FF family.
13:59 --> 14:01 [SPEAKER_02]: And that was enjoyable for me, no see.
14:02 --> 14:07 [SPEAKER_02]: I think they did galactis, how galactis should be done.
14:10 --> 14:13 [SPEAKER_02]: So there were, it wasn't,
14:14 --> 14:27 [SPEAKER_02]: I was fearful going into the movie that the movie wouldn't hit the way that I wanted it to hit, but it did because they really focused on presenting the fantastic four as a family first, superhero team second.
14:27 --> 14:29 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's what I wanted.
14:29 --> 14:42 [SPEAKER_02]: I wanted to see those interactions between the four of them that shows that and I think that is exactly what they did and
14:42 --> 14:43 [SPEAKER_02]: We're amazing.
14:43 --> 14:51 [SPEAKER_02]: It's silver surf, but I think you look great and overall is really happy with the film.
14:51 --> 15:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, there were definite parts that were standing out to me in a good way, like particularly the first scenes with Galactus, and yeah, the silver surfer, the way she was done, and that whole birth scene, I won't spoil anything, right?
15:16 --> 15:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Overall, though, when it comes to the writing and the way the bot was, I just felt like, I felt them cutting it apart and pasting it back together.
15:27 --> 15:29 [SPEAKER_01]: And yes, I will talk to linguists.
15:29 --> 15:33 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm still mad about this.
15:33 --> 15:47 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm still mad about it, but I'll, you know, see our fantastic forever, so it'll, or extensive discussion on discord about it, including examples of how it could have been done better.
15:48 --> 15:50 [SPEAKER_01]: But it was just there are too many things like that.
15:50 --> 15:52 [SPEAKER_01]: They were like making me pick at it.
15:52 --> 15:56 [SPEAKER_01]: So it's not like I'm not condemning it to the bottom of my list, like Brave New World.
15:56 --> 16:03 [SPEAKER_01]: But it's definitely, it's in like the lower middle of my rankings for the year, okay?
16:03 --> 16:03 [SPEAKER_02]: That's what we're all.
16:05 --> 16:05 [SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
16:05 --> 16:07 [SPEAKER_02]: And give us your question.
16:07 --> 16:28 [SPEAKER_02]: Can, can, can I say not the horrible part of paternalistic, is there such a thing, is there such a thing, is there such a thing as not as paternalistic, but not in the terrible sense, is there such a thing, can that be, is that possible?
16:28 --> 16:31 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, everything's complex, but why do you see fantastic for is that?
16:31 --> 16:34 [SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, I'll just, um,
16:34 --> 16:42 [SPEAKER_02]: remembering what I said about reread, and I said that, and I was like, can I say paternalistic, but not in the terrible way?
16:43 --> 16:45 [SPEAKER_02]: Does that even does that drive?
16:47 --> 16:48 [SPEAKER_02]: If anybody has, let me know.
16:49 --> 16:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, let us know.
16:50 --> 16:51 [SPEAKER_01]: You're talking linguistic.
16:51 --> 16:53 [SPEAKER_02]: Let us know.
16:53 --> 16:53 [SPEAKER_02]: And put it down.
16:53 --> 17:03 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it does literally just mean acting fatherly, but then, of course, we've come to associate these
17:04 --> 17:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Alright, so MCU, not done yet.
17:06 --> 17:14 [SPEAKER_01]: They had two final things that came out two animated series, each one, a four episode drop.
17:14 --> 17:19 [SPEAKER_01]: We got Isival Kanda on August 1st and Marvel Zombies September 24th.
17:19 --> 17:24 [SPEAKER_01]: We did separate episodes on each of them in the feed, but you're overall thoughts, Sean.
17:25 --> 17:29 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, I, who did you start with the animation for both of them?
17:29 --> 17:39 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, see you tomorrow, just incredible, just incredible, as of kind of, I, I like, but
17:41 --> 17:44 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think we spoke about this a little bit.
17:45 --> 17:57 [SPEAKER_02]: I wanted to see more of Wakanda, Wakanda proper, how do people move in the city, in the nation, and I didn't get that.
17:57 --> 18:00 [SPEAKER_02]: I got Wakanda operates with the outside world.
18:01 --> 18:09 [SPEAKER_02]: And for my Wakanda knowledge,
18:09 --> 18:12 [SPEAKER_02]: we know how to operate with the outside world.
18:13 --> 18:19 [SPEAKER_02]: I wanted to have more introspection on Wakandan society and I didn't get that.
18:19 --> 18:24 [SPEAKER_02]: So that was my major drawback from the series.
18:25 --> 18:32 [SPEAKER_02]: Marvel zombies was, oh, I mean, was the polquilla scale, where are we at?
18:33 --> 18:37 [SPEAKER_01]: It maxes five, so I'm pretty sure it's in 11.
18:37 --> 18:38 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, there we go, right?
18:39 --> 18:43 [SPEAKER_02]: So that was just great zombie-core action.
18:44 --> 18:47 [SPEAKER_02]: Totally under our way.
18:47 --> 18:50 [SPEAKER_02]: Beautiful, beautifully rendered action sequences.
18:51 --> 18:54 [SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, I got involved in the story as well.
18:54 --> 18:54 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to front.
18:55 --> 18:57 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's another one where
18:57 --> 19:03 [SPEAKER_02]: a young person makes a decision that I so wanted them not to make, right?
19:03 --> 19:09 [SPEAKER_02]: And you know, that stayed with me for a little while, like thinking about why it was that decision made.
19:09 --> 19:16 [SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, when a show can do that, whether it's live action or animated, I think it works.
19:16 --> 19:18 [SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, the show worked for me.
19:19 --> 19:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah, I, so slightly preferizable kind of like them both obviously, um, because, I guess just because the anthology nature ofizable kind of means that I knew going in that it was going to be a sort of disjointed story, you know, and so obviously there are some episodes that prefer to others.
19:39 --> 19:40 [SPEAKER_01]: but I expected that.
19:40 --> 19:42 [SPEAKER_01]: And it was funny based on the time periods.
19:42 --> 19:44 [SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't even necessarily the ones that I thought it would be.
19:46 --> 19:52 [SPEAKER_01]: But I was there for all those little stories, and I felt like I somehow personally got more out of it.
19:52 --> 19:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Guy C, which you mean that it wasn't really about Wakanda, because it was about people from Wakanda who live abroad.
19:58 --> 20:05 [SPEAKER_01]: It's more about Wakanda's interaction with the rest of the world, rather than the country itself, which would have been cool too.
20:05 --> 20:06 [SPEAKER_01]: But then, yeah, they would have had to focus.
20:07 --> 20:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, they were going to do a dormalasi show, and that would have been all about that.
20:10 --> 20:11 [SPEAKER_01]: So it's a shame we didn't get that.
20:13 --> 20:18 [SPEAKER_01]: But I found it interesting to see how Wakanda and history
20:18 --> 20:37 [SPEAKER_01]: fit with the rest of the world, which both I found on spiring, just thinking about how far advanced they were thousands of years ago, but also intensity frustrating in the way that was intended that how dare you just abandon the rest of the world, you know?
20:37 --> 20:47 [SPEAKER_02]: Right, and that's part of the reason why I wanted to see, you know, in the workings of this
20:47 --> 20:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was just, in both cases, they were by too quickly.
20:50 --> 20:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Marvel zombies felt more like, it was a lot of spectacle.
20:56 --> 21:07 [SPEAKER_01]: And not just in terms of the action, yes, that, but also in terms of concepts, like, let's make Blade and Moon Knight one thing, like, yes, let's do that.
21:07 --> 21:07 [SPEAKER_01]: That's awesome.
21:08 --> 21:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Or what we got Infinity Hulk, or a lot of really cool
21:13 --> 21:15 [SPEAKER_01]: surprises like that.
21:15 --> 21:16 [SPEAKER_01]: So it had a lot of high highs.
21:17 --> 21:20 [SPEAKER_01]: I guess for me, eyes of a condo was just a bit more consistent.
21:21 --> 21:26 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, and Marvel zombies left off in a way.
21:26 --> 21:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I think both of them probably were going to be more and longer, but then they decided to rethink everything and they're like, well, we'll just give you what we've got for these so far.
21:37 --> 21:38 [SPEAKER_01]: And that's a shame.
21:42 --> 21:44 [SPEAKER_01]: But okay, so that is the year in Marvel.
21:44 --> 21:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's swap over to the very first year of the new DCU.
21:50 --> 21:56 [SPEAKER_01]: So if you're confused, what's the difference between the DCU and DCU, we did a whole episode about that.
21:56 --> 21:57 [SPEAKER_01]: So, see you there.
21:58 --> 21:59 [SPEAKER_01]: But...
21:59 --> 22:11 [SPEAKER_01]: The DCU kicked off actually at the end of the last year, at the end of 2024, going into 2025 with creature commendos, season one, and I know I liked this more than you did.
22:12 --> 22:16 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, yes you did, um, it was fine.
22:17 --> 22:18 [SPEAKER_02]: It was fine.
22:19 --> 22:32 [SPEAKER_02]: I wasn't, you know, most of the characters that we got to know, I wasn't to enamored with aside from the bride and weasel.
22:33 --> 22:46 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, yeah, I hated Frankenstein, the portrayal, um,
22:47 --> 23:15 [SPEAKER_02]: Not a fan, I had troubles with watching week to episode week to week and I just never really captured me and I don't know if it's because of the cast of characters or was it because just I didn't like how the cast of characters were being portrayed.
23:16 --> 23:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I hear you, and I think, you know, we both were both more positive on the other two things we're going to discuss, but for me, my issue with creature, I had a lot of fun with it, you know, I shouted it out recently as one of my favorite portrayals of the bright character.
23:34 --> 23:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
23:36 --> 23:38 [SPEAKER_01]: And so for me, it had real high highs.
23:38 --> 23:45 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm only really mad at one thing, which, you know,
23:45 --> 24:13 [SPEAKER_01]: totally see or see our discussion of that but that's for me it's putting that show at the first season at a B- I think which is still fine good you know I enjoyed myself I'm looking forward to season two I'm curious and I can't forget you know G-I robot that's all yeah G-I robot was great and the whole weasel story was two was really
24:13 --> 24:26 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, had some high highs, but yeah, especially I'm curious about season two after, you know, there is a real interconnectedness, which obviously is the problem with marbles all over the place now, DCU is very focused.
24:26 --> 24:28 [SPEAKER_01]: We only got three things this year.
24:28 --> 24:31 [SPEAKER_01]: So they all definitely we see how they fit together.
24:31 --> 24:43 [SPEAKER_01]: The second thing was of course superman July 11th and you were, that was probably like the film that you were most nervous and hopeful for going in the 2020 25 right there.
24:44 --> 24:47 [SPEAKER_02]: knocked it out the park.
24:47 --> 24:49 [SPEAKER_02]: For me, that film was magnificent.
24:50 --> 24:52 [SPEAKER_02]: It's everything that a superman film should be.
24:53 --> 24:59 [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm saying this as a noted, a noted, a James gun detractor.
25:00 --> 25:02 [SPEAKER_02]: As a James gun detractor.
25:04 --> 25:07 [SPEAKER_02]: If yes, I am, I make no point.
25:07 --> 25:08 [SPEAKER_01]: I know exactly where you're going.
25:08 --> 25:12 [SPEAKER_01]: So noted.
25:12 --> 25:23 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, so really, really, really was a wonderful movie to watch Superman, it'd be Superman.
25:25 --> 25:32 [SPEAKER_02]: There's nothing that I honestly, I can't say it's perfect, right?
25:33 --> 25:36 [SPEAKER_02]: But there was nothing in watching the film.
25:36 --> 25:43 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, there is nothing that I would say I wish they did something else with this part of it.
25:45 --> 26:05 [SPEAKER_02]: So, everything to me fit the way that it should have fit into the film and into the story of Superman, and I was very happy that they did so well with such an iconic character.
26:05 --> 26:16 [SPEAKER_02]: John, I've done this universe, you know, because this sets a tone of what you can expect from these characters.
26:17 --> 26:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
26:18 --> 26:31 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, for me, I'm, you know, that I, I identify with Lois Lane for a lot of reasons, but Superman never my favorite character per se, you know, the whole boy scout of it all will discuss that.
26:32 --> 26:36 [SPEAKER_01]: But this, we got here a real raw human.
26:37 --> 26:38 [SPEAKER_01]: take on Colelle.
26:39 --> 26:48 [SPEAKER_01]: So and you know David Cornswett also obviously deserves just as much credit as James Gunn and to make it realizing that.
26:48 --> 26:55 [SPEAKER_01]: And I love the whole team and yeah, sometimes it was maybe a little messy and over stuffed in the way James Gunn can can do.
26:55 --> 26:58 [SPEAKER_01]: But those parts, I had such a good time.
26:58 --> 27:05 [SPEAKER_01]: And then, you know, and I went in excited about certain characters and and I always love the team up.
27:05 --> 27:08 [SPEAKER_01]: But like, I didn't know I was going to come out of this a Mr.
27:08 --> 27:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Terrific stand because I didn't even know who he was before this film.
27:11 --> 27:15 [SPEAKER_01]: So this, yeah, at this film, just
27:15 --> 27:18 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that it worked on pretty much everyone the same way.
27:19 --> 27:32 [SPEAKER_01]: It was great to see all the good reviews to see do well at the box office and just have people come together and be excited about something that's so relatively wholesome but honest.
27:32 --> 27:37 [SPEAKER_01]: And I, you know, I did a whole, I even went on never mind the music and did a whole whole punk episode about this.
27:39 --> 27:44 [SPEAKER_02]: And then I'm to your point, you know, to bring a character like Mr.
27:44 --> 27:58 [SPEAKER_02]: Terrific who, you know, one of my fans, period and DC comics, but to bring a character like that to the forefront, where not many people are familiar with who he is and
27:58 --> 28:11 [SPEAKER_02]: just to get people on board, like, yeah, we need a terrific show or a terrific movie that, you know, you've done an amazing job at presenting these characters.
28:12 --> 28:16 [SPEAKER_02]: And so, because for me, I would be seated for a Mr.
28:16 --> 28:17 [SPEAKER_02]: Terrific movie regardless, right?
28:18 --> 28:28 [SPEAKER_02]: But for folks who don't read the comics haven't read much about them to watch the movie and then to come out of the movie as a, hey, I need that.
28:28 --> 28:30 [SPEAKER_02]: need to see that on screen.
28:31 --> 28:32 [SPEAKER_02]: That is amazing.
28:32 --> 28:33 [SPEAKER_02]: That is amazing.
28:33 --> 28:36 [SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah, a great film.
28:37 --> 28:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
28:39 --> 28:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
28:39 --> 28:46 [SPEAKER_01]: And then the last thing of the year was obviously you, Erin, and I full-weekly coverage had a lot of fun along the way.
28:47 --> 28:51 [SPEAKER_01]: It ranked highly on a lot of people's end of year lists.
28:51 --> 28:51 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.
28:51 --> 28:52 [SPEAKER_01]: I put it at 11.
28:52 --> 28:53 [SPEAKER_01]: It was such a packed year.
28:53 --> 28:56 [SPEAKER_02]: You put it at 11.
28:56 --> 28:57 [SPEAKER_01]: I was such a peck.
28:57 --> 28:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Don't you love him?
28:59 --> 28:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
28:59 --> 29:00 [SPEAKER_01]: I know.
29:00 --> 29:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Even silo was a ten.
29:01 --> 29:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Even silo was a ten.
29:03 --> 29:04 [SPEAKER_02]: Come on.
29:04 --> 29:05 [SPEAKER_02]: I love him.
29:06 --> 29:11 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, these are these are my babies, but my God, did we have some incredible television this year?
29:11 --> 29:12 [SPEAKER_02]: We did.
29:12 --> 29:13 [SPEAKER_02]: We did.
29:14 --> 29:15 [SPEAKER_01]: But this was part of it.
29:15 --> 29:21 [SPEAKER_01]: This was also part of the incredible television season two of Peace Maker, which is the first part.
29:21 --> 29:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Now in the DCU, and I liked how James gun handled that with the whole previously on in the DCU, and then it just kind of read it mostly season one events, but just a couple little subs to change the universe, instead of,
29:38 --> 29:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Instead of the DC EU Justice League, we have the DC EU Justice Gang stuff like that.
29:44 --> 29:53 [SPEAKER_01]: So I thought very smoothly done, and very directly sets up, we believe, the second super-man movie.
29:54 --> 29:55 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, definitely.
29:57 --> 29:58 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, one of my favorite shows from last year.
30:00 --> 30:06 [SPEAKER_02]: Unlike certain people on this part, it was firmly in my top 10.
30:07 --> 30:18 [SPEAKER_01]: I swore that all year long, I'm like, I'm going to make it do, like, put in an earth or something, like, come on.
30:18 --> 30:24 [SPEAKER_02]: So I had this in my top 10, just for the right.
30:24 --> 30:36 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this was just a great TV show, and again, you said corn sweat was amazing as Superman.
30:36 --> 30:38 [SPEAKER_02]: And this is someone who
30:39 --> 30:42 [SPEAKER_02]: who Superman is Henry Cavill, right?
30:42 --> 30:46 [SPEAKER_02]: And I look at, and I watch the movie, and I was like, Henry, who?
30:47 --> 30:49 [SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm talking about?
30:49 --> 30:50 [SPEAKER_02]: Henry, who?
30:50 --> 30:56 [SPEAKER_01]: New Superman, who is it?
30:56 --> 30:56 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
30:56 --> 30:57 [SPEAKER_02]: But, but.
30:57 --> 31:01 [SPEAKER_02]: I say all that to say that John Cena was amazing in this.
31:01 --> 31:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
31:03 --> 31:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
31:03 --> 31:07 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they're never going to take him seriously at the end, but they should.
31:07 --> 31:08 [SPEAKER_01]: But they should.
31:08 --> 31:12 [SPEAKER_01]: He deserves it at least as much as any other performance I've seen.
31:12 --> 31:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
31:13 --> 31:14 [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
31:14 --> 31:15 [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
31:15 --> 31:22 [SPEAKER_02]: He was simply amazing in this role as this character on this show in this season.
31:23 --> 31:23 [SPEAKER_02]: And, um,
31:25 --> 31:27 [SPEAKER_02]: For as much as I like Mr.
31:27 --> 31:31 [SPEAKER_02]: Terrific, I don't really like piecemaker.
31:32 --> 31:35 [SPEAKER_02]: I've never been of a fan of piecemaker in the comics.
31:36 --> 31:44 [SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't a fan of piecemaker in the previous gun offerings, but I'm a fan of piecemaker now.
31:45 --> 31:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
31:46 --> 31:49 [SPEAKER_02]: And I want to see more of piecemaker now.
31:51 --> 31:52 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's because of John Cena.
31:53 --> 31:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
31:55 --> 32:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Right, yeah, I mean, this, yeah, and James Guns writing, I'm going to give some credit here, too.
32:02 --> 32:17 [SPEAKER_01]: And in the entire ensemble cast, you know, we talked about like a lot of bio and judo master and and we got flurry this season was a great addition and double Adrian.
32:17 --> 32:22 [SPEAKER_01]: So it was just such a fun show and
32:22 --> 32:29 [SPEAKER_01]: It didn't necessarily need to go as hard as it did when it came to addressing racism, for example.
32:30 --> 32:35 [SPEAKER_01]: And so I have a lot of respect for it for doing that, but also keeping it fun.
32:38 --> 32:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Keeping, you know, we, our discussions of it, we had a lot of laughs and we had a lot of really deep talks because it was that kind of show and that's my favorite kind of show to be honest.
32:50 --> 33:08 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, so what are your feelings then about these MCU and DCU going into 2026, ignoring what we know is ahead, just focusing on what we've already seen, which way are you tipping in terms of like, oh, this is what I'm really getting excited.
33:10 --> 33:17 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, I don't know if I can answer that now, but I will say that
33:18 --> 33:19 [SPEAKER_02]: because of Peace Maker.
33:20 --> 33:40 [SPEAKER_02]: I think even though the MCU had far more offering, and some of those offerings were really good, but I just think Peace Maker was head and shoulders above what we got from the MCU from Marvel last year.
33:40 --> 33:50 [SPEAKER_02]: given these three shows, these three offering, the creature commandos Superman and peacemaker, I would care the win to DCU for 2025.
33:52 --> 33:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so Marvel, there's more, and it's all over the place.
33:58 --> 34:01 [SPEAKER_01]: It has some of my favorite things, and as I said, some of my least favorite things too.
34:03 --> 34:09 [SPEAKER_01]: So it is a much more mixed batch, whereas DCU focused,
34:09 --> 34:29 [SPEAKER_01]: They enlaunched this new universe in a way where I already feel, I feel more oriented in the new DCU than I did in the MCU, where I've been spending time for, I don't know, 20 something years, right?
34:31 --> 34:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they are add an advantage going into our 2026 conversation with both of us and and you know, I've always been the staunch marvel defender.
34:40 --> 34:42 [SPEAKER_01]: So yes, yes, yes.
34:42 --> 34:43 [SPEAKER_01]: That is true.
34:44 --> 34:56 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, well, let's take a quick pause here and when we come back, we are going to talk about the 2026 movies for both marvel and DC ear back.
35:15 --> 35:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, we are, we can't spoil the things we're about to talk about because we haven't seen them yet.
35:22 --> 35:23 [SPEAKER_01]: We don't really fully exist yet.
35:24 --> 35:25 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to spoil it all.
35:25 --> 35:27 [SPEAKER_01]: We spoiled it all.
35:27 --> 35:36 [SPEAKER_01]: We do reserve the right to discuss anything in everything Marvel and DC from this point, including plot points from all that stuff we talked about in 2025.
35:37 --> 35:42 [SPEAKER_01]: So we will be spoiling 2025 stuff and we also are free to talk about.
35:42 --> 35:52 [SPEAKER_01]: past TV movies, comics, and any future rumors or things we might have, you know, just we're taking off this boiler band aid.
35:52 --> 35:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Here we go.
35:54 --> 35:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, Marvel.
35:55 --> 35:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's start with MCU.
35:57 --> 36:00 [SPEAKER_01]: We're still in phase six.
36:01 --> 36:04 [SPEAKER_01]: So the final phase of the multiverse saga.
36:04 --> 36:07 [SPEAKER_01]: And we have
36:07 --> 36:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Two films coming out this year, so far as we know, which is what they promised.
36:13 --> 36:16 [SPEAKER_01]: They said that they were gonna start doing only two films a year, which I don't hate.
36:17 --> 36:18 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you wanna set up the first one?
36:18 --> 36:19 [SPEAKER_02]: Sure, sure.
36:19 --> 36:24 [SPEAKER_02]: So we have Spider-Man brand new day coming to us July 31st, 2026.
36:24 --> 36:34 [SPEAKER_02]: It was directed by Dustin Daniel Cretan, who did Shankshi, which we both, I think, loved.
36:35 --> 36:37 [SPEAKER_02]: This is the start of a new trilogy.
36:38 --> 36:40 [SPEAKER_02]: It looks to be a more street-level approach.
36:41 --> 36:42 [SPEAKER_02]: For a Spidey.
36:42 --> 36:44 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, but they're getting the whole back.
36:44 --> 37:01 [SPEAKER_02]: The whole gang is coming back, um, plus Sadie Sink, as a character we don't know who she's playing yet, um, we also know the Punisher and incredible Hulk will be, um, characters in the movie as well.
37:01 --> 37:10 [SPEAKER_02]: The screenplay was by Chris McKenna and Eric Summers, um,
37:10 --> 37:14 [SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, we'll see how it goes with this trilogy.
37:15 --> 37:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think I mean, my my question is, is this going to span saga, is this going to be connected to we'll talk later about the TV side of things, but there's been discussion of separating the TV and the movie universes and with the it looks like, you know, there was a big discussion with a spider-man movie is it going to be street level?
37:39 --> 37:42 [SPEAKER_01]: or is it going to be cosmic?
37:43 --> 37:44 [SPEAKER_01]: And it seems like street level one.
37:45 --> 37:52 [SPEAKER_01]: And we know they're bringing in, for example, the Punisher, obviously, as thus far in part of the Daredevil universe, which is very much TV.
37:52 --> 38:02 [SPEAKER_01]: And we've heard Vince Vinton Alfrio, Kingpin, from Daredevil, say, that it is different contracts, and he's contracted for TV, not films.
38:03 --> 38:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, that could be tricky, whatever.
38:07 --> 38:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Spider-Man doesn't even play a role in Avengers Doomstay.
38:10 --> 38:13 [SPEAKER_01]: And We rise.
38:13 --> 38:13 [SPEAKER_01]: We rise.
38:15 --> 38:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I guess he has to in secret wars.
38:16 --> 38:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Like every warrior.
38:17 --> 38:18 [SPEAKER_01]: Secret wars.
38:18 --> 38:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Right, everyone.
38:19 --> 38:22 [SPEAKER_02]: We rise yet, okay?
38:22 --> 38:27 [SPEAKER_02]: There's absolutely no way that they can the idea that they're going to separate.
38:27 --> 38:34 [SPEAKER_02]: TV universe from movie universe infuriates me, I hate it.
38:34 --> 38:35 [SPEAKER_02]: Please don't do this.
38:35 --> 38:38 [SPEAKER_02]: Fighy, you're already skating on thin ice bro.
38:39 --> 38:41 [SPEAKER_02]: Please, this is not necessary.
38:41 --> 38:43 [SPEAKER_02]: This is not what the people want.
38:43 --> 38:44 [SPEAKER_02]: We don't want that.
38:44 --> 38:46 [SPEAKER_02]: We don't need that.
38:46 --> 38:47 [SPEAKER_02]: Right?
38:47 --> 38:51 [SPEAKER_02]: You can tell stories from multiple universes.
38:51 --> 38:53 [SPEAKER_02]: You can have one-offs and stuff like that.
38:54 --> 39:02 [SPEAKER_02]: But to say you're going to separate what's happening from TV shows to what's happening in the movies makes absolutely no sense.
39:02 --> 39:02 [SPEAKER_02]: Don't do it.
39:03 --> 39:04 [SPEAKER_02]: You've tried it already.
39:04 --> 39:05 [SPEAKER_02]: Nobody wanted it.
39:06 --> 39:10 [SPEAKER_02]: Everybody was looking for the Avengers and Defenders to get together.
39:11 --> 39:12 [SPEAKER_02]: Everybody wanted it.
39:13 --> 39:15 [SPEAKER_02]: We don't want this.
39:16 --> 39:32 [SPEAKER_02]: keep the stories, keep the characters that everyone, and who knows about them, loves, and let the people who don't know get introduced to them, and how they interact with each other.
39:32 --> 39:45 [SPEAKER_02]: This is a shared world, a shared universe, why must we try to say, oh, this doesn't belong
39:47 --> 39:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I understand that they make more money in theaters and that is where they are less inclined to take risks and I'm okay with that.
39:55 --> 40:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Although if we say Thunderbolts was a risk, you know, they kept the budget fairly low and then they reaped the rewards because of that.
40:02 --> 40:06 [SPEAKER_01]: So you can take those kinds of risks in the cinema and that was good.
40:07 --> 40:08 [SPEAKER_01]: But okay, fine.
40:08 --> 40:13 [SPEAKER_01]: I understand they can take more risks on the television side and maybe they are.
40:13 --> 40:23 [SPEAKER_01]: I just think one of the biggest complaints that people have had about the more recent Marvel stuff is that it's not interconnected enough.
40:23 --> 40:29 [SPEAKER_01]: And they're so afraid of people being not wanting to go see the movie because they haven't seen this or that.
40:30 --> 40:31 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think the
40:31 --> 40:41 [SPEAKER_01]: They're thinking about this the wrong way because the people who actually really care are just getting frustrated that they're watching stories that just aren't given real commitment.
40:41 --> 40:41 [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
40:41 --> 40:44 [SPEAKER_01]: And so just live to die and go nowhere.
40:44 --> 40:46 [SPEAKER_01]: And that's what I think where people are getting fed up.
40:47 --> 40:52 [SPEAKER_01]: If you give us a story that we are compelled to watch, then we will follow it in both formats.
40:52 --> 40:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Gladly.
40:53 --> 41:01 [SPEAKER_02]: And also, you know, if you make a good movie, people are coming all the same.
41:02 --> 41:25 [SPEAKER_02]: you know people will find it people will go see a good movie so the idea that you know someone will say to themselves oh I didn't watch the TV show so I can't go to the movie I call be as on that because if the movie is good if you know you're hearing good things about the movie
41:25 --> 41:34 [SPEAKER_02]: Friends, friends, friends, friends, you know, your parents that you listen to, you're in good things about it.
41:34 --> 41:38 [SPEAKER_02]: You're on social media, you're like, oh, this, everybody, this is a great movie.
41:39 --> 41:41 [SPEAKER_02]: You're not going to say to yourself, oh, I didn't watch TV show.
41:41 --> 41:42 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to go see it.
41:42 --> 41:44 [SPEAKER_02]: I call BS on that.
41:44 --> 41:45 [SPEAKER_02]: I do.
41:45 --> 41:50 [SPEAKER_02]: Make a good movie and let the people who will come see a good movie.
41:51 --> 42:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, and I think the fact, I, I am on record of saying that I agree with them slowing down their output because I think they were trying to do too much at once and capitalism baby encourages the wrong things.
42:07 --> 42:15 [SPEAKER_01]: But they were trying to do too much at once and thus spreading themselves to thin and thus, you know, there were some quality dips in certain areas and
42:15 --> 42:20 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that they just need to understand why what to people love comic movies for.
42:20 --> 42:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, they're ridiculous plots and everything, but they are compelling human stories.
42:25 --> 42:30 [SPEAKER_01]: They are, and I'm going to say they are compelling human stories Disney that appeal to outsiders.
42:31 --> 42:39 [SPEAKER_01]: This is why I'm looking at you Disney because the next saga is the mutant saga, and that is a saga about outsiders.
42:39 --> 42:42 [SPEAKER_01]: So you've got to...
42:42 --> 42:45 [SPEAKER_01]: you've got to make sure that you continue to tell those stories.
42:45 --> 42:52 [SPEAKER_01]: And that's something that I'm really worried about with what's been going on and with, you know, why can you real world?
42:53 --> 43:00 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but also because of what life for movies with Captain America, I feel like, you know, you're talking about them being afraid.
43:01 --> 43:03 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, absolutely absolutely.
43:04 --> 43:08 [SPEAKER_01]: So, okay, but anyway, Spider-Man, brand new day.
43:08 --> 43:13 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't, I just am very curious.
43:13 --> 43:18 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to say confused because, you know, it's, they don't report to me first, unfortunately.
43:18 --> 43:22 [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't need to know yet how this all ties in.
43:22 --> 43:27 [SPEAKER_01]: But if this is going to be the start of a trilogy, we have this coming out before Doomsday.
43:28 --> 43:44 [SPEAKER_01]: I would be shocked if they got another Spider-Man movie out before, I mean, maybe they're secretly working on it behind the scenes or film back to back and full disall so they can get one out and try to play seven before secret wars, but I'm going to assume not.
43:45 --> 43:49 [SPEAKER_01]: And also just considering obviously the Spider-Man side, they have to share that with Sony.
43:49 --> 43:51 [SPEAKER_01]: So that is a whole other complication.
43:51 --> 44:04 [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm just very curious how this will tie into or play with the whole secret worst thing, which, well, we said the spoilers for comics, what is secret war's young for anyone who doesn't know?
44:05 --> 44:10 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, don't text the survivors of the...
44:11 --> 44:13 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, it's like going on with ripped.
44:13 --> 44:16 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm basically going off on the second line.
44:16 --> 44:18 [SPEAKER_02]: We're doing the second line.
44:18 --> 44:24 [SPEAKER_02]: It's the survivors of the end of the universe and forms one world where he rules over.
44:25 --> 44:31 [SPEAKER_02]: And it's a patchwork world made up of different parts of the most lovely universe.
44:31 --> 44:35 [SPEAKER_01]: So it's not like Spider-Man or Daredevil or whatever won't notice.
44:36 --> 44:37 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's exactly.
44:37 --> 44:38 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, everybody knows what's going on.
44:39 --> 45:01 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, so how does that play and how does Spider-Man play into that could this or on the other hand rather than it not being a part of that actually No, I'm sorry it's saying that Okay, everybody doesn't know what's going on And so it's Yeah, they're existing on this world as if this was the only world they ever existed on
45:02 --> 45:13 [SPEAKER_02]: And it's the people who were writing out the end of the universe, who crash on the world that figure out, oh, what is happening here?
45:15 --> 45:31 [SPEAKER_02]: So everyone, yes, there were survivors of the universe that did not land on Dr. Dunes
45:31 --> 45:36 [SPEAKER_02]: that wrote out the end of the universe and wrote the wave to battle world.
45:37 --> 45:40 [SPEAKER_02]: And once they landed on battle world, they were like oh shit.
45:41 --> 45:49 [SPEAKER_02]: But everybody who went to battle world, they believed this is the only thing that that's existed.
45:50 --> 45:52 [SPEAKER_02]: That doom has always been God.
45:52 --> 46:00 [SPEAKER_01]: but they at least know of doom being God so that we would have to see that blackness by the end of death, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
46:00 --> 46:06 [SPEAKER_01]: And also did this whole memory amnesia sort of spell very much like what happened at the end of the last Spider-Man movie.
46:06 --> 46:16 [SPEAKER_01]: So that's where we're setting up this new Spider-Man movie is everyone has forgotten the Peter Parker a Spider-Man including Mary Jane.
46:17 --> 46:20 [SPEAKER_01]: MJ, sorry, that's what we call it in this version.
46:20 --> 46:21 [SPEAKER_01]: It's in Daya.
46:23 --> 46:35 [SPEAKER_01]: So, and including his best friends and everything, and it was sort of a back to the basics was how we saw the last movie ending with Tom Holland making his own suit instead of having his super powered Tony Stark suit.
46:36 --> 46:37 [SPEAKER_01]: As so,
46:38 --> 46:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's this is back to the basics, but he should still notice there's something going on.
46:43 --> 46:50 [SPEAKER_01]: So I wonder if rather than not being part of it, what if it ends up being load bearing for this whole transition to the new?
46:50 --> 46:52 [SPEAKER_02]: I think it has to be.
46:52 --> 46:55 [SPEAKER_02]: I think this movie is very important to do.
46:56 --> 47:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, yeah, and the transition through secret wars I'm wondering because there's no way they're getting If they're still doing the three movies obviously they changed their mind all the time, but if there is a trilogy, there's no way they're all coming out before secret wars Right, right, right So I think we're keeping Tom home.
47:13 --> 47:21 [SPEAKER_02]: The spotty movie is for all intents and purposes, I think is the beginning of the new Right, the Spider-Man movie
47:22 --> 47:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Because, yeah, we know we're going to lose a lot of characters in Doomsday and Secret Wars, because this is a soft reboot of the entire, the multiverse will wittle back down to the focus of one universe, which will whatever happens in Secret Wars it seems like that's going to be what causes, this is all part of the future conversation, but anyway, it's what causes the mutations it sounds like in this world.
47:48 --> 47:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
47:49 --> 47:50 [SPEAKER_01]: So that's Spider-Man.
47:51 --> 47:56 [SPEAKER_01]: We've already set up a lot of Avengers doomsday coming out December 18th.
47:57 --> 47:59 [SPEAKER_01]: What else do the people need to know about this one?
48:00 --> 48:14 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, what can you say about a franchise that has the name of vendors that people don't know at this point?
48:15 --> 48:26 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, maybe there's someone living under a rock who didn't know that that Robert Johnny Jr., formerly Tom and Tony Stark is coming up back as Doom himself.
48:27 --> 48:29 [SPEAKER_01]: How are you feeling about that?
48:29 --> 48:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Because we've had some...
48:31 --> 48:36 [SPEAKER_02]: I still hate it, and I'm not even hating that.
48:37 --> 48:43 [SPEAKER_02]: When I say I still hate it, I don't mean to say that I don't think he's capable.
48:43 --> 48:44 [SPEAKER_01]: No, we have to do it all.
48:45 --> 48:47 [SPEAKER_01]: How into actor, no, that's not at all.
48:47 --> 48:48 [SPEAKER_02]: That's not what I'm saying.
48:49 --> 48:56 [SPEAKER_02]: I just wanted new direction for the new direction, right?
48:58 --> 49:00 [SPEAKER_02]: And this is too much of a callback for me.
49:01 --> 49:06 [SPEAKER_02]: The teasers that we got, the Thor, the Captain America, did absolutely nothing for me.
49:08 --> 49:13 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to pretend that they did the last two teasers.
49:14 --> 49:39 [SPEAKER_02]: I have to say, um, yeah, I got a little, got a little excited there, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I
49:39 --> 50:02 [SPEAKER_02]: Then from Yensie Street, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
50:03 --> 50:22 [SPEAKER_01]: So for anyone who's not familiar with the teasers, they released four teasers I don't even know if they released the last one officially I don't know if they haven't released the last one of the show I'm saying it too But I'm talking about any regardless because I mean Move a dinner I can feel like Marvel leaked it.
50:22 --> 50:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Marvel deleted
50:25 --> 50:33 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and so the idea was there's supposed to all play one one per week for four weeks in front of avatar now.
50:33 --> 50:36 [SPEAKER_01]: I went to see avatar and I did not see any of these teasers.
50:37 --> 50:40 [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't see any I max though, it's an I max only thing.
50:40 --> 50:42 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
50:42 --> 50:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
50:42 --> 50:50 [SPEAKER_01]: I realized like halfway through avatar, like I was just sitting in the middle of the movie like, wait a minute, where was my doomsday teaser?
50:50 --> 51:19 [SPEAKER_01]: But with the fortiesers, where the first one was Steve Rogers, so we see him, you know, after the end game, we saw him that he went to this alternate timeline where he and Peggy got to live out their life when we see him with an infant son, and then there's something about it seems like a lot, there's a lot of children in peril going on, and this is why we're either going to skip the champions and then just do like a kid generation because there's a lot of focus on young kids, including the second one Thor.
51:19 --> 51:29 [SPEAKER_01]: the last Thor movie ended up with him adopting this sort of cosmic child called Love, who was played by Chris Hemsworth's real daughter, which is adorable.
51:29 --> 51:32 [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, so that played into the second one.
51:32 --> 51:36 [SPEAKER_01]: The third one is definitely one that got people more excited.
51:36 --> 51:37 [SPEAKER_01]: So those two were looking back.
51:37 --> 51:39 [SPEAKER_01]: The third one is M-
51:39 --> 51:44 [SPEAKER_01]: It was looking back, but also looking forward because it's X-Men, but we're talking the 90s X-Men.
51:45 --> 51:49 [SPEAKER_01]: We thought that we were killing them off with Deadpool versus Wolverine.
51:49 --> 51:49 [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no.
51:50 --> 51:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Here we go.
51:51 --> 51:52 [SPEAKER_02]: I think some of my kids.
51:53 --> 52:00 [SPEAKER_02]: I think that I think that cyclops,
52:01 --> 52:11 [SPEAKER_01]: And then, I think the last one, the reason also, as you were saying, why you responded to the last one, is they remembered like, oh, people love these Avengers movies because they're team up movies.
52:11 --> 52:18 [SPEAKER_01]: So they showed the wall, the Wakandans, the Talokan and the Fantastic Four, or specifically Ben, together.
52:18 --> 52:21 [SPEAKER_01]: So that's like, oh, yes, they're going to be interacting.
52:21 --> 52:23 [SPEAKER_01]: This is what we want from an Avengers movie.
52:24 --> 52:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Bam.
52:25 --> 52:30 [SPEAKER_01]: It's definite themes of loss throughout.
52:31 --> 52:32 [SPEAKER_01]: definitely hollow aching.
52:32 --> 52:37 [SPEAKER_01]: I do think this movie is going to have a good happy ending.
52:37 --> 52:38 [SPEAKER_01]: I guess have infinity.
52:38 --> 52:39 [SPEAKER_01]: No, I didn't have a happy ending.
52:39 --> 52:42 [SPEAKER_01]: This is basically like the infinity war of this saga.
52:42 --> 52:44 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the happy ending is sticker was.
52:46 --> 52:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
52:47 --> 52:50 [SPEAKER_01]: And by happy ending, like most people are dead, but some survived.
52:50 --> 52:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
52:52 --> 52:57 [SPEAKER_02]: The api and it will be a secret was when they reset the universe, which is what I'm expecting.
52:58 --> 53:07 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm expecting them to reset the universe at the end of secret wars to assert the new age of Marvel movies, Marvel characters or whatever.
53:08 --> 53:13 [SPEAKER_02]: But don't say, you might as well bring your tissue paper.
53:15 --> 53:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Bring your handcrafts.
53:17 --> 53:22 [SPEAKER_02]: You're going to be some crying in them there, so I'll tell you that right now, there's going to be some tears.
53:25 --> 53:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I think that I am, I guess I'm worried for any characters featured in this because, like, is this the end of Thor?
53:32 --> 53:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Ah, I could chance.
53:35 --> 53:36 [SPEAKER_01]: This Thor at least.
53:36 --> 53:38 [SPEAKER_02]: Gonna be, it's gonna be some tears.
53:39 --> 53:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
53:39 --> 53:41 [SPEAKER_02]: Gonna be some tears, but I'll be some crying.
53:42 --> 54:04 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean Steve Rogers honestly is amazing he's back again so surprised or saddened that he's going to go again because I mean it's nothing but yeah so these how are we feeling about these are directed by the Russo brothers who directed you know infinity worn and game obviously two of the biggest movies ever and they have
54:04 --> 54:12 [SPEAKER_01]: One of the writers of those movies back Stephen McBealy, but he's not with his usual writing partner this time instead.
54:12 --> 54:20 [SPEAKER_01]: They have a second writer, Michael Waldron, who obviously, Loki creator and has done a lot of great things we love.
54:21 --> 54:22 [SPEAKER_01]: How are we feeling about this team?
54:23 --> 54:34 [SPEAKER_02]: Given the movies, I suppose the screws so brothers have released since.
54:35 --> 54:39 [SPEAKER_02]: quite honestly, because he's a great writer.
54:40 --> 54:49 [SPEAKER_02]: As evidence and by the Loki series, so that gave me heart that bolstered my belief that they can actually do this.
54:51 --> 54:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I have to say I don't have the greatest of faith in the Russo brothers.
54:59 --> 55:15 [SPEAKER_01]: But and I don't necessarily think with with infinity war and endgame that the writing was it wasn't like great writing in the sense of thunderbolts was, you know, where I felt like it really hit emotional truths and things like that.
55:15 --> 55:20 [SPEAKER_01]: It was, we were there for the spectacle and for the character stories.
55:21 --> 55:24 [SPEAKER_01]: And just with the fact that the
55:24 --> 55:26 [SPEAKER_01]: characters are so disjointed now.
55:27 --> 55:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I just really hope that they pull on that, pull through on that front.
55:33 --> 55:42 [SPEAKER_02]: I think there are moments in both endgame and infinity where that are monumental and movie period.
55:44 --> 55:44 [SPEAKER_02]: I think.
55:44 --> 55:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Right, of course, yeah.
55:45 --> 55:46 [SPEAKER_02]: I think um,
55:48 --> 55:59 [SPEAKER_02]: So, if they get, you know, some of that into these two films, there'll be outrageously successful.
55:59 --> 56:05 [SPEAKER_02]: both, you know, commercially and as well as for us who are watching them, we'll feel good about them.
56:05 --> 56:17 [SPEAKER_02]: Because I still watch, when Black Panther comes out, you know, and he's standing in front of the force, really, any chance he bombay.
56:17 --> 56:18 [SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying?
56:19 --> 56:20 [SPEAKER_02]: And that still gives me chose.
56:20 --> 56:22 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I have to choose thinking about it right now.
56:22 --> 56:28 [SPEAKER_02]: And I still watch on your left, you know what I mean?
56:28 --> 56:30 [SPEAKER_03]: It's great showments, yeah.
56:30 --> 56:31 [SPEAKER_02]: Getting chills thinking about it now.
56:31 --> 56:43 [SPEAKER_02]: So I think if they provide that in these two movies, then not only will they be commercially successful, I think they'll be successful with the audience.
56:44 --> 56:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
56:44 --> 56:46 [SPEAKER_02]: Because those are the things that we do remember.
56:47 --> 56:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I just, I want it to be more than just like a Deadpool and Wolverine collection of great moments.
56:54 --> 57:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, but I have, you know, I'm just, I have every reason to... Beautiful.
57:02 --> 57:10 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll also, but I have every reason to believe that they are considering the character impact and things like that.
57:10 --> 57:18 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, whether some of my favorite characters will be remembered of that, I am absolutely doubtful for good reason.
57:18 --> 57:18 [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
57:19 --> 57:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Given the characters they've presented, we know that we're getting, it's probably best on a seed that I just focus on, I don't know, there's still already like 20 names for Doom's Day or something, so it's a lot.
57:31 --> 57:34 [SPEAKER_01]: So I just hope, yeah, they deliver a good story with that.
57:35 --> 57:39 [SPEAKER_01]: OK, so let's turn our attention to the DCU side of things.
57:39 --> 57:44 [SPEAKER_01]: And this is still chapter one, gods and monsters are just taking their time.
57:44 --> 57:47 [SPEAKER_01]: They haven't even announced what chapter two is going to be called yet, or when it will begin.
57:47 --> 57:49 [SPEAKER_01]: So this is all chapter one.
57:50 --> 57:52 [SPEAKER_01]: We're still getting the party started over there.
57:52 --> 57:57 [SPEAKER_01]: And we also, on that side, have two movies coming out this year.
57:57 --> 58:01 [SPEAKER_01]: We have Clay, we have Supergirl.
58:01 --> 58:08 [SPEAKER_01]: in June 26th, and we have Clayface on September 11th.
58:09 --> 58:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, let's begin with, I think you are more excited for the first one, Supergirls.
58:14 --> 58:14 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, absolutely.
58:14 --> 58:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Based on the woman of tomorrow, graphic novel.
58:18 --> 58:20 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's just an amazing comic.
58:21 --> 58:30 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think, you know, I watched the trailer.
58:30 --> 58:33 [SPEAKER_02]: And it was immediately like, oh shit, yeah, I can't wait for this.
58:35 --> 58:38 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, yeah, this is like I cannot wait to watch this.
58:39 --> 58:42 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, and I just feel like this is going to be.
58:42 --> 58:45 [SPEAKER_02]: This is going to be one fun as movie.
58:46 --> 58:47 [SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be really fun.
58:48 --> 58:55 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think a super girl, just the character,
58:56 --> 59:00 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, we haven't really seen, right?
59:00 --> 59:13 [SPEAKER_02]: And this is opening up the DCU to show us characters that have been under use or not used at all on the big screen.
59:14 --> 59:27 [SPEAKER_02]: and it's long overdue, you know, it's long overdue because on the TV, on the animated side of the TV shows, we get that, but on the big screen, this is long overdue.
59:27 --> 59:32 [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm really excited for this movie because I think the character deserves the spotlight.
59:34 --> 59:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
59:35 --> 59:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it looking at the trailer, it does look like and we've also heard reports that it follows this woman of tomorrow graphic novel series, I suppose, more closely than these movies usually do follow their source material.
59:51 --> 59:54 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they're really, really, really just so good.
59:55 --> 01:00:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, let's just use that plot and maybe, you know, in the Adlobo basically is what it looks like to me.
01:00:02 --> 01:00:05 [SPEAKER_01]: So we have a good idea of what we're getting in this one.
01:00:05 --> 01:00:08 [SPEAKER_01]: This one's going to be directed by Craig Gillespie, who I think is great.
01:00:08 --> 01:00:12 [SPEAKER_01]: And written by Anna Nuguria, Oh, no, Gira.
01:00:12 --> 01:00:13 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.
01:00:13 --> 01:00:20 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm probably budging her last name, but she is an actress who I've noticed.
01:00:20 --> 01:00:22 [SPEAKER_01]: has seen her writing and believes in her.
01:00:22 --> 01:00:33 [SPEAKER_01]: Her background is mostly acting, but she is now being made one of the major writers of this DCU and her name will come up in a couple other capacities here.
01:00:33 --> 01:00:34 [SPEAKER_01]: But she wrote this.
01:00:35 --> 01:00:41 [SPEAKER_01]: And so yeah, I'm excited about that team, but we're gonna be off-planet, so I think.
01:00:41 --> 01:00:44 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't, like, if we don't see Superman at all, I'm fine with that.
01:00:44 --> 01:00:50 [SPEAKER_01]: If we do, I think it will and should only be, you know, sort of, first seen last seen situation.
01:00:51 --> 01:00:51 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, definitely.
01:00:52 --> 01:00:54 [SPEAKER_02]: Because most of the people should be her story.
01:00:55 --> 01:00:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:00:56 --> 01:00:58 [SPEAKER_02]: This should be really her story.
01:00:58 --> 01:00:59 [SPEAKER_02]: This is her story.
01:01:00 --> 01:01:02 [SPEAKER_02]: And to have, you know, soups.
01:01:03 --> 01:01:06 [SPEAKER_02]: And it will take away from it being her story.
01:01:07 --> 01:01:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
01:01:09 --> 01:01:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:01:09 --> 01:01:27 [SPEAKER_01]: And so we have like the comic, we have a cram of the yellow hills, sort of gangster figure in a way, play by Matthias Sronerts, and Eve Ridley is playing
01:01:27 --> 01:01:55 [SPEAKER_01]: uh... who she meets super girl basically we we got a tease for this at the end of super man which he's like i you know i like to go to a planet with a red sun because the yellow sun makes her metabolize alcohol too quickly so she can't kick drunk and so she goes to other planet with the red sun's to drink so that she can actually feel the effects and why she want to feel the effects because well why why why why what's her tragic backstory in brief joe whatever we can do this movie do you think i mean
01:01:57 --> 01:02:07 [SPEAKER_02]: her entire culture of family planet being destroyed and we're witnessing it and having that number where as Superman does not.
01:02:08 --> 01:02:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because then there's also
01:02:11 --> 01:02:14 [SPEAKER_02]: and then being a drift girl, not knows how long?
01:02:14 --> 01:02:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it looks like they're going to take the comic's backstory where a portion of Krypton was preserved and drifted through space, like sort of dying, and so we know David Krumholz was going to play her father, Zorrel.
01:02:29 --> 01:02:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Emily Beacham is going to play Allora in Z, her mother, so we're definitely going to see her childhood.
01:02:35 --> 01:02:42 [SPEAKER_01]: And this is anyone who watched the Supergirl movie from the 80s, which I will hear no disparaging remarks about.
01:02:44 --> 01:02:46 [SPEAKER_01]: It's it also include this part as well.
01:02:46 --> 01:02:54 [SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to see that, but what if this city was protected by more than just cellophane plastic wrap.
01:02:56 --> 01:03:02 [SPEAKER_01]: don't really movey.
01:03:02 --> 01:03:05 [SPEAKER_01]: I've watched that over and over growing up.
01:03:06 --> 01:03:08 [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm excited about this one.
01:03:08 --> 01:03:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:03:10 --> 01:03:12 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh man, I'm so excited about this.
01:03:12 --> 01:03:12 [SPEAKER_02]: We excited about this.
01:03:12 --> 01:03:14 [SPEAKER_02]: We excited about this.
01:03:14 --> 01:03:14 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:03:15 --> 01:03:23 [SPEAKER_01]: And then Jason Mamoa is going to show up no longer Aquaman, he has the cast, everyone always wanted him to have, he is now Lobo.
01:03:24 --> 01:03:25 [SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely.
01:03:25 --> 01:03:32 [SPEAKER_01]: An alien mercenary and bounty hunter from the utopian planet of Sarnia, which sounds like Narnia, but anyway.
01:03:35 --> 01:03:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Since I'm not a DC comic reader yet, much, I'm not as familiar with Lobo.
01:03:41 --> 01:03:43 [SPEAKER_01]: What are your feelings on this character?
01:03:43 --> 01:03:45 [SPEAKER_02]: He's a bad, shut your mouth.
01:03:50 --> 01:04:11 [SPEAKER_02]: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
01:04:12 --> 01:04:21 [SPEAKER_02]: and having being able to breathe and out of space and fly and have distrantly equivalent of Superman, and that's who you are, that's who you are, that's who you are.
01:04:23 --> 01:04:36 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, so we've we've got we've got super girl and and her new alien friend and versus, you know, he has a motorcycle, he has a space frame and no bow.
01:04:37 --> 01:04:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, okay cool.
01:04:38 --> 01:04:41 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he has a space cycle.
01:04:42 --> 01:04:45 [SPEAKER_01]: So this is going to be an intergalactic space out there.
01:04:45 --> 01:04:50 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's going to be something, it's going to be something special, I think.
01:04:50 --> 01:04:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:04:51 --> 01:04:55 [SPEAKER_01]: And then later in the year, September 11th, we get a movie.
01:04:55 --> 01:05:02 [SPEAKER_01]: I think I'm more excited about the new one, and that's Clayface, which is directed by James Watkins, noted hard director.
01:05:03 --> 01:05:11 [SPEAKER_01]: It was, the screenplay was by Mike Flanagan and who signed Almini and basically Mike Flanagan, who I'm obviously a big fan of.
01:05:12 --> 01:05:14 [SPEAKER_01]: He is the one who made this happen.
01:05:14 --> 01:05:16 [SPEAKER_01]: He brought forward, he's like, I have this story idea.
01:05:16 --> 01:05:18 [SPEAKER_01]: He went to James Gunny, which is really pitched.
01:05:18 --> 01:05:20 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a spec style almost.
01:05:20 --> 01:05:50 [SPEAKER_01]: and wrote this script and that's how it got started but then he's just he's too busy adapting every book that Stephen Kings ever written so he wasn't available to direct it so they brought James Gunn are sorry James Watkins on board to direct and then James Watkins like okay I'm gonna have who's signed Amini take another pass at it and Amini is best known for writing for example the screenplay of the movie drive with Ryan Gosling which was great.
01:05:50 --> 01:05:56 [SPEAKER_01]: this has got a real horror thriller pedigree going on.
01:05:57 --> 01:06:00 [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm I'm very intrigued about this personally.
01:06:00 --> 01:06:11 [SPEAKER_01]: We have a young up-and-coming actor Thomas Fries Harry's is going to be starring as Clayface, aka Matt Hagen, who he's an actor whose face is disfigured.
01:06:12 --> 01:06:18 [SPEAKER_01]: So he turns to a scientist,
01:06:18 --> 01:06:24 [SPEAKER_01]: And she's, oh, yeah, it's for for help to transfer and she transforms his body into clay.
01:06:24 --> 01:06:26 [SPEAKER_01]: So it's his origin story, more or less.
01:06:27 --> 01:06:37 [SPEAKER_01]: And also Max Mingella is in it who he plays at Gotham City Police Detective, who's dating bait and people probably know him best from Handmaid's Tale.
01:06:37 --> 01:06:46 [SPEAKER_01]: He's, you know,
01:06:46 --> 01:06:50 [SPEAKER_01]: But why you were more reluctant about this one, why it's up?
01:06:53 --> 01:06:56 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just not a clayface enthusiast.
01:06:57 --> 01:07:01 [SPEAKER_02]: Nothing that I saw in creature commando was made me one, turned me into one.
01:07:03 --> 01:07:04 [SPEAKER_01]: This is a different take.
01:07:05 --> 01:07:25 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it is, it is, and, you know, he's part of, of Batman's Roads Gallery, um, so I really don't, uh, I don't see, I've never envisioned Clayface as a character on to himself, right?
01:07:26 --> 01:07:26 [SPEAKER_02]: So,
01:07:27 --> 01:07:34 [SPEAKER_02]: it's not something that I thought that I wanted and up to now I still don't think that I wanted.
01:07:35 --> 01:07:54 [SPEAKER_02]: I watch it definitely I'll be seated and I'm hoping that you know it turns out well but there's not much to the character that I know of that makes me think that
01:07:56 --> 01:08:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I mean, for me, that's like, I know I didn't think the piecemaker needed to exist and now, um, These are the lines that did so.
01:08:04 --> 01:08:05 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, absolutely.
01:08:06 --> 01:08:07 [SPEAKER_01]: So that doesn't deter me.
01:08:07 --> 01:08:10 [SPEAKER_01]: I suppose more interested in Clayface than you.
01:08:11 --> 01:08:13 [SPEAKER_01]: He's a character that's been portrayed.
01:08:13 --> 01:08:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Was the creature commandos version was kind of whatever, Blinken, you'll miss it, also voiced by Alan Tudik, but they're not bringing him in to play it here.
01:08:24 --> 01:08:28 [SPEAKER_01]: They've decided to go younger with this origin story.
01:08:29 --> 01:08:34 [SPEAKER_01]: But the reason that I'm excited about this is purely the pedigree of the people who are making it,
01:08:34 --> 01:08:46 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think they would not be making this film if it weren't something exciting and interesting and bringing to the table that things that these specific people can bring to the table.
01:08:47 --> 01:08:48 [SPEAKER_02]: That's fair.
01:08:49 --> 01:08:51 [SPEAKER_01]: So I think that's why I'm most excited for it.
01:08:51 --> 01:08:53 [SPEAKER_01]: And I love, you know, I love her.
01:08:53 --> 01:08:57 [SPEAKER_01]: So there we are, super hero horror, yes, please.
01:08:59 --> 01:09:02 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, so that's the movies for these.
01:09:02 --> 01:09:19 [SPEAKER_01]: So that means in the left corner, we have MCU, Spider-Man, brand new day and Avengers doomsday versus on the right side of the rings, DCU with Supergirl and Clayface,
01:09:20 --> 01:09:21 [SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
01:09:21 --> 01:09:27 [SPEAKER_02]: I want to get it's it's it's Marvel.
01:09:28 --> 01:09:31 [SPEAKER_02]: Marvel is the winner here.
01:09:32 --> 01:09:40 [SPEAKER_02]: This is someone I'm saying this as someone who is on a project.
01:09:40 --> 01:09:49 [SPEAKER_02]: I am unapologetic about how much I love
01:09:50 --> 01:09:54 [SPEAKER_02]: It's one of the best stories that I've read last 10 years.
01:09:56 --> 01:09:57 [SPEAKER_02]: But it's Marvel.
01:09:58 --> 01:10:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Alright, well, this is where we're not going to agree on this one for me.
01:10:04 --> 01:10:04 [SPEAKER_01]: It's DC.
01:10:04 --> 01:10:06 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm with DC on this one.
01:10:07 --> 01:10:17 [SPEAKER_01]: I just am uniquely excited for both Supergirl and Clayface for different reasons in a way that, of course, I'm going to show up for Spider-Man and Avengers Doomstay and I can't wait to see what they come out of it.
01:10:18 --> 01:10:25 [SPEAKER_01]: But Supergirl and Clayface, I'm really like, oh, that's, I don't know that I feel like they're going to give me something fresh or something.
01:10:25 --> 01:10:26 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:10:26 --> 01:10:29 [SPEAKER_02]: That's a great look.
01:10:29 --> 01:10:30 [SPEAKER_02]: That's a great take.
01:10:30 --> 01:10:34 [SPEAKER_02]: But I just feel like doomsday is inevitable.
01:10:36 --> 01:10:37 [SPEAKER_02]: I think that movie.
01:10:37 --> 01:10:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Doomsday is going to win the box office?
01:10:39 --> 01:10:50 [SPEAKER_02]: No, not just from the box office, but when I just think that movie has the potential for the story,
01:10:51 --> 01:11:00 [SPEAKER_02]: to be something really, really great because I'm thinking of the story as well, not just the spectacle.
01:11:01 --> 01:11:02 [SPEAKER_02]: Like this is the end.
01:11:04 --> 01:11:06 [SPEAKER_02]: Like the real, really the end.
01:11:07 --> 01:11:16 [SPEAKER_02]: And when you can say that this is the end and you, you know, like in a way, this is going to usher in something new.
01:11:18 --> 01:11:19 [SPEAKER_02]: If
01:11:20 --> 01:11:22 [SPEAKER_02]: I guess a game changer for me.
01:11:23 --> 01:11:29 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think that, yeah, I think Dunes, they have a lot of pressure on it, a lot.
01:11:31 --> 01:11:43 [SPEAKER_02]: I think that's part of the reason why you know, I'm more siding with Marvel in this battle here because the pressure is on Dunes, they, yeah.
01:11:43 --> 01:11:44 [SPEAKER_02]: They have to deliver.
01:11:45 --> 01:11:46 [SPEAKER_01]: I hear you, I hear you.
01:11:47 --> 01:11:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
01:11:48 --> 01:11:57 [SPEAKER_01]: So that means as it stands now, DCU has three points, one from you, two from me and MCU has one point.
01:11:58 --> 01:12:00 [SPEAKER_01]: But will the TV side change everything?
01:12:01 --> 01:12:04 [SPEAKER_01]: We should find out after quick break.
01:12:23 --> 01:12:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, and welcome back.
01:12:24 --> 01:12:30 [SPEAKER_01]: It is time to talk 2026 TV MCU versus DCU starting with Marvel.
01:12:30 --> 01:12:34 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, let's, let's start with the DC.
01:12:34 --> 01:12:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Because you're starting to DC.
01:12:36 --> 01:12:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, there's only one show.
01:12:37 --> 01:12:41 [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's not even fair right now.
01:12:41 --> 01:12:44 [SPEAKER_01]: What you mean for poor lanterns is getting the gang up on?
01:12:45 --> 01:12:48 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, like me going up against Mike Tyson, you know what I'm saying?
01:12:48 --> 01:12:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's why I was going to say give lanterns this.
01:12:51 --> 01:12:52 [SPEAKER_01]: That's why it's not fair.
01:12:52 --> 01:12:55 [SPEAKER_01]: The recent sea bias.
01:12:55 --> 01:13:01 [SPEAKER_01]: I was going to talk about that one last, so that it got a special attention, but I'm not going to let's talk about that.
01:13:02 --> 01:13:06 [SPEAKER_02]: Tommy Hurts, wait, this is enough, this is enough.
01:13:07 --> 01:13:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk DCU so far, one show announced that doesn't mean there aren't more coming, you know, we know that everyone's holding their cards closer to their chest.
01:13:16 --> 01:13:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Nobody, neither Marvel nor DC made any major announcements at Comic Con this year.
01:13:24 --> 01:13:29 [SPEAKER_01]: They just don't want to announce things until they're actually happening because of all the backlash, I think.
01:13:30 --> 01:13:31 [SPEAKER_01]: They don't want another blade situation.
01:13:31 --> 01:13:32 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll get to that.
01:13:33 --> 01:13:39 [SPEAKER_01]: But, so we know of one TV show this year and what is it, Sean, for the DCU.
01:13:40 --> 01:13:41 [SPEAKER_02]: It's lanterns.
01:13:42 --> 01:14:00 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, sometime in the mid-2026, eight episodes, hopefully weekly, um, the showrunners Chris Mundy, better known for Ozark, true detective, criminal mines, co-creators is your Lindorf.
01:14:01 --> 01:14:02 [SPEAKER_02]: And Tom King.
01:14:03 --> 01:14:10 [SPEAKER_01]: So you love your late Lindorf, and the lost doesn't do for you.
01:14:10 --> 01:14:15 [SPEAKER_02]: Not at the end of the day.
01:14:16 --> 01:14:17 [SPEAKER_02]: I'll just say that.
01:14:18 --> 01:14:25 [SPEAKER_02]: So we get two green lanterns, John Stuart, and Hal Jordan, respectively, played by Kyle Tranland and Aaron Pierre.
01:14:28 --> 01:14:35 [SPEAKER_02]: The green lanterns are like the police force of the galaxy of the DC universe.
01:14:35 --> 01:14:46 [SPEAKER_02]: If you think if you are a motherhead, you know, there is a police force, a constant police force, and then see you if you watch you watch Marvel zombies.
01:14:47 --> 01:14:51 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, yes, we all watch Marvel zombies, and we saw the Zandars.
01:14:51 --> 01:15:02 [SPEAKER_02]: Intergalactic police, keeping peace, keeping force, keeping Earth, isolated Earth, isolated.
01:15:04 --> 01:15:06 [SPEAKER_02]: So the green lanterns operate in much the same way.
01:15:07 --> 01:15:12 [SPEAKER_02]: There's a green lantern or two for a receptor of the universe.
01:15:13 --> 01:15:18 [SPEAKER_02]: And they have one weapon, a ring.
01:15:19 --> 01:15:34 [SPEAKER_02]: powered by your willpower and this show made my number one most anticipated show for 2020's.
01:15:35 --> 01:15:48 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think most looking forward to watching this show because I think that dynamic between
01:15:49 --> 01:15:50 [SPEAKER_02]: awesome.
01:15:52 --> 01:16:09 [SPEAKER_02]: Because you have two very distinct personalities so far apart in the way they see the world and how they do their superheroing, there's going to be really interesting to watch them.
01:16:10 --> 01:16:13 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, interact with each other to try to solve whatever they're trying to solve.
01:16:14 --> 01:16:25 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, and it'd be totally, not space-faring so far as far as we know, but really grounded in a way that I think I'm going to enjoy.
01:16:25 --> 01:16:31 [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, Nathan Phillan, Philly on, excuse me, is back as a gardener.
01:16:32 --> 01:16:33 [SPEAKER_01]: He's been delightful thus far.
01:16:33 --> 01:16:35 [SPEAKER_01]: So we told him Superman.
01:16:35 --> 01:16:36 [SPEAKER_01]: We saw him in peacemaker.
01:16:36 --> 01:16:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:16:37 --> 01:16:38 [SPEAKER_02]: the bowl cut is back.
01:16:39 --> 01:16:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and yeah, I'm digging this like this this Fargo vibe kind of with the murder mystery in Nebraska.
01:16:47 --> 01:16:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm very it's going to rely a lot on Kyle Chandler and Aaron here and that actually kind of excites me because I think
01:16:57 --> 01:17:11 [SPEAKER_01]: that they can handle it and I'm very interested to see, I think that they were well cast in the way that I perceive them as representing the personalities of their characters and to see those two interact is going to be amusing.
01:17:11 --> 01:17:11 [SPEAKER_01]: I think.
01:17:12 --> 01:17:14 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:17:14 --> 01:17:14 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:17:14 --> 01:17:16 [SPEAKER_02]: We have Kelli McBamow.
01:17:16 --> 01:17:21 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm starring as Kerry who was a sheriff in the town.
01:17:21 --> 01:17:24 [SPEAKER_02]: You have Jason Ritter playing her husband, Billy Maken.
01:17:24 --> 01:17:28 [SPEAKER_02]: So Nestural is supposed to be a big bad.
01:17:29 --> 01:17:32 [SPEAKER_01]: I love Kelly McDonald and Jason Ritter.
01:17:32 --> 01:17:34 [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm looking forward to that.
01:17:35 --> 01:17:41 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't really know much about Nestural have heard the name, do you know more?
01:17:41 --> 01:18:06 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's how Jordan's chief nemesis, arch rival, arch villain, top of the rose gallery for how Jordan, one of the greatest green lanterns who ever existed, who turned away from willpower
01:18:08 --> 01:18:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
01:18:09 --> 01:18:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, wow.
01:18:09 --> 01:18:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
01:18:10 --> 01:18:15 [SPEAKER_01]: So he's got a kind of like a red color and going on and said the green, right?
01:18:15 --> 01:18:16 [SPEAKER_02]: No, sinister yellow.
01:18:17 --> 01:18:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yellow.
01:18:17 --> 01:18:18 [SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, my bad.
01:18:19 --> 01:18:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I see.
01:18:19 --> 01:18:21 [SPEAKER_01]: I just click through to a picture.
01:18:22 --> 01:18:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
01:18:22 --> 01:18:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, he's got red skin, though.
01:18:24 --> 01:18:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
01:18:24 --> 01:18:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:18:24 --> 01:18:26 [SPEAKER_01]: He's using in my head.
01:18:26 --> 01:18:29 [SPEAKER_02]: He's not a earth person.
01:18:29 --> 01:18:30 [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
01:18:31 --> 01:18:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, and there's also a character apparently called Anton, who's an extra terrestrial, devoted to exposing the truth and exacting vengeance.
01:18:43 --> 01:18:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Is this a new character?
01:18:45 --> 01:18:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Is this someone from the comics that you know of?
01:18:47 --> 01:18:48 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know this character.
01:18:49 --> 01:18:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
01:18:50 --> 01:18:52 [SPEAKER_02]: I will get back to you on that.
01:18:52 --> 01:19:07 [SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was interesting that the way it was in the, like, I was looking up obviously the cast and the way it was in the cast it wasn't linked to, I don't know, I think it might be a new character was the impression that I got basically.
01:19:08 --> 01:19:10 [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, this should be, this should be a fun show.
01:19:10 --> 01:19:14 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we're definitely be covering it in some capacity.
01:19:14 --> 01:19:19 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll have to, so far, all we've heard, as you said, is like mid 20, 26, whatever that means.
01:19:20 --> 01:19:22 [SPEAKER_01]: So we'll have to see how everything shakes out with it.
01:19:22 --> 01:19:25 [SPEAKER_01]: But I know you're super excited about it.
01:19:25 --> 01:19:26 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm definitely excited about it.
01:19:26 --> 01:19:32 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this is what I'm looking for to, I think, how,
01:19:33 --> 01:19:40 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, John Stewart, and those two of my favorite, you know, just this leagueers.
01:19:41 --> 01:19:43 [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm excited to have them on screen.
01:19:44 --> 01:19:44 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:19:44 --> 01:19:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:19:46 --> 01:19:55 [SPEAKER_01]: And, but before that, very, very soon, actually just like, I don't know, week from now, it did something else that you and I are both excited about.
01:19:55 --> 01:19:58 [SPEAKER_01]: You were not excited about it at first, but you've come around.
01:19:58 --> 01:19:59 [SPEAKER_02]: I wasn't.
01:19:59 --> 01:19:59 [SPEAKER_02]: I wasn't.
01:19:59 --> 01:20:01 [SPEAKER_02]: I had to admit it.
01:20:01 --> 01:20:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Wonderman, January 27th, 8th episode, unfortunately a binge drop so it will be a one-shot coverage from us at the start of February.
01:20:10 --> 01:20:21 [SPEAKER_01]: But we've been just like loving the marketing and thank you again to some zero who's signed up for the marketing text because they've been everything
01:20:24 --> 01:20:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I love this, it's a spoof of the entertainment industry, you know, superhero, hero, movie making, um, so I would say fans of this was actually made before like Kevin five years like we made this before the studio and for in the franchise, but now we're releasing a third.
01:20:41 --> 01:20:42 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, well, who's fault is that?
01:20:42 --> 01:20:53 [SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, uh, it looks, for my perspective, it could be the greatest of the bunch just based on the marketing, but we'll see how it pans out.
01:20:53 --> 01:21:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but we've got Ben Kingsley back as Trevor Slattery who was first introduced in the Iron Man movies as the Mandarin until they're like, you can't have this actor be.
01:21:09 --> 01:21:15 [SPEAKER_01]: And then to they're like, no, actually Trevor Slattery is an actor who is pretending higher to pretend to be the Mandarin.
01:21:17 --> 01:21:17 [SPEAKER_01]: And
01:21:17 --> 01:21:20 [SPEAKER_01]: then he showed up in Shangchi was one of the best parts of that movie.
01:21:20 --> 01:21:31 [SPEAKER_01]: And now he's back and it seems like it's kind of like an odd couple team up with him and Simon Williams, Wonderman himself, play by Abdul Mithin II.
01:21:31 --> 01:21:43 [SPEAKER_01]: And he's like the super-powered straight man and I don't mean his sexual orientation but his like we were worried how we don't know this is a comedic actor, but then we saw
01:21:43 --> 01:21:48 [SPEAKER_01]: him with Ed Harris is playing his agent and they were at, what was it like, the Emmys or something?
01:21:49 --> 01:21:49 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
01:21:49 --> 01:21:52 [SPEAKER_01]: And they were just playing in character.
01:21:52 --> 01:21:57 [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, that's like Simon Williams is going to be the straight man with all the comedians around him.
01:21:57 --> 01:22:00 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that works really well from what we've seen.
01:22:01 --> 01:22:06 [SPEAKER_02]: From what we've seen so far, this looks to be like it's going to be a whole lot of fun.
01:22:07 --> 01:22:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:22:08 --> 01:22:09 [SPEAKER_02]: And I can't wait.
01:22:09 --> 01:22:10 [SPEAKER_02]: I can't wait.
01:22:11 --> 01:22:19 [SPEAKER_01]: We've also got Zlatko Burik, Burik, who played the president of Baravia in Superman.
01:22:19 --> 01:22:24 [SPEAKER_01]: He is the late president, and it's quite nice.
01:22:24 --> 01:22:25 [SPEAKER_01]: We warned you.
01:22:25 --> 01:22:34 [SPEAKER_01]: He's playing Van Covac, who's like a celebrated and reclusive director, who's directing the Wonderman remake, and I just as like a film nerd myself.
01:22:34 --> 01:22:38 [SPEAKER_01]: I can just think of exactly which directors they might be spoofing.
01:22:38 --> 01:22:42 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll talk about it in our coverage, but this is going to be a lot of fun.
01:22:44 --> 01:22:51 [SPEAKER_01]: And for the comic nerds, we have Eric Williams, which is Wonderman's brother.
01:22:51 --> 01:22:55 [SPEAKER_01]: He's going to be played by Dimitrius Gross and aka the Grim Reaper.
01:22:56 --> 01:23:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Now they have him listed in the notes as Simon's quote unquote quote unquote quote
01:23:03 --> 01:23:05 [SPEAKER_01]: older brother who works in insurance.
01:23:07 --> 01:23:09 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not buying it, but we'll see what happens.
01:23:10 --> 01:23:11 [SPEAKER_01]: codename grim reaper, sure.
01:23:11 --> 01:23:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, everything's great.
01:23:13 --> 01:23:17 [SPEAKER_02]: He's a villain in the comic books.
01:23:17 --> 01:23:27 [SPEAKER_01]: And speaking of someone who toes the line, we have Ari and Moia, yeah, he's back as the agent Cleary from the Department of Damage Control.
01:23:27 --> 01:23:30 [SPEAKER_01]: We saw him in Miss Marvel.
01:23:30 --> 01:23:32 [SPEAKER_01]: We saw him in Spider-Man as a correct.
01:23:33 --> 01:23:34 [SPEAKER_01]: He's poppin.
01:23:34 --> 01:23:35 [SPEAKER_01]: He's in Spider-Man.
01:23:36 --> 01:23:36 [SPEAKER_01]: He was.
01:23:38 --> 01:23:38 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:23:39 --> 01:23:42 [SPEAKER_02]: Was he in the Marvels or the Marvels?
01:23:43 --> 01:23:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Hmm, I don't think so, because I was more cosmic.
01:23:47 --> 01:23:51 [SPEAKER_02]: No, there was a deal with DC that came in.
01:23:51 --> 01:23:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
01:23:52 --> 01:23:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I need to rewatch up before Doomsday.
01:23:55 --> 01:24:00 [SPEAKER_01]: I hope that they're tying that whole credit scene into the Doomsday plot.
01:24:00 --> 01:24:01 [SPEAKER_01]: We didn't talk about that.
01:24:02 --> 01:24:03 [SPEAKER_02]: He might have been in the series.
01:24:03 --> 01:24:04 [SPEAKER_02]: I think he was in the series.
01:24:05 --> 01:24:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Doomsday has to carry the weight of a lot of credit scenes.
01:24:08 --> 01:24:08 [SPEAKER_02]: A lot.
01:24:09 --> 01:24:11 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm telling you this, so there's a lot of pressure on Doomsday.
01:24:12 --> 01:24:12 [SPEAKER_01]: There is.
01:24:12 --> 01:24:12 [SPEAKER_01]: There is.
01:24:12 --> 01:24:14 [SPEAKER_01]: And that's why I'm nervous.
01:24:15 --> 01:24:20 [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, in Wonderman, there's also, I had to write this down because apparently there's going to be a character called the doorman.
01:24:20 --> 01:24:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, this is not what I heard of.
01:24:24 --> 01:24:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's not a character that I've heard of, but the thing that made me stand out to me was planet money, the economics podcast.
01:24:34 --> 01:24:38 [SPEAKER_01]: They did a deep dive into superheroes.
01:24:38 --> 01:24:50 [SPEAKER_01]: And so they decided, and when they do these sorts of things, they decide, like, okay, we're going to purchase the rights to a superhero ourselves and do a comic book ourselves and just, you know, learn about the business that way and share it and did a whole series on it.
01:24:50 --> 01:25:02 [SPEAKER_01]: And the first one that they went for was, uh, Tony was a door man, but it's got to be a different one because apparently this version popped up in the late 80s and I think they were going
01:25:02 --> 01:25:13 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if it's the same, but anyway, Marvel said no, and they were like, okay, well, apparently even Marvel won't even give up the lesser superheroes because they might want to use them someday.
01:25:13 --> 01:25:15 [SPEAKER_01]: And here we have Dorman.
01:25:15 --> 01:25:16 [SPEAKER_02]: They're actually using them.
01:25:17 --> 01:25:19 [SPEAKER_01]: And they're like really using them.
01:25:19 --> 01:25:22 [SPEAKER_01]: So they went with microface, it planted money, but that's funny.
01:25:22 --> 01:25:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Interesting.
01:25:23 --> 01:25:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:25:25 --> 01:25:28 [SPEAKER_01]: But to Wonderman, definitely, we're both bummed.
01:25:28 --> 01:25:33 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a binge drop, definitely looking forward to watching and talking about it.
01:25:34 --> 01:25:39 [SPEAKER_02]: So next, they have schedule for March 4th.
01:25:40 --> 01:25:41 [SPEAKER_02]: Dare to have a bon again.
01:25:41 --> 01:25:44 [SPEAKER_02]: Season 2.
01:25:44 --> 01:25:59 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you said the most important thing, we get a season with one set of showrunners doing their entire vision and from episode one through episode eight.
01:26:00 --> 01:26:14 [SPEAKER_02]: So the disjointed nature of last season will hopefully not be there as they have one coherent
01:26:14 --> 01:26:32 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this is this is I'm looking forward to this as well, and I think it's going to be you know Super violent and Lots of action and lots of fun Yeah, yeah, so the show runners Dario Scarta pane and then the lead directors for this entire season.
01:26:32 --> 01:26:43 [SPEAKER_01]: This time is bent in a more head and They are they have a background in indie sci-fi horror and they also worked on like moon night and
01:26:43 --> 01:26:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they do a lot of like darker moodier things but they do that very well with very interesting cinematography.
01:26:51 --> 01:26:54 [SPEAKER_01]: So I am excited about all of that.
01:26:55 --> 01:26:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, this, it starts March 4th.
01:26:57 --> 01:26:59 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm guessing it's gonna be weekly.
01:26:59 --> 01:27:01 [SPEAKER_01]: This is a big show for them, I think.
01:27:01 --> 01:27:01 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, it is.
01:27:03 --> 01:27:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Probably we'll do it again every two to three episode coverage.
01:27:07 --> 01:27:11 [SPEAKER_01]: I guess we'll, like I said, we'll see how it shakes out once we find out when things are actually getting released.
01:27:13 --> 01:27:17 [SPEAKER_01]: But what's the most exciting, what's the most exciting thing about?
01:27:17 --> 01:27:19 [SPEAKER_02]: Tell me.
01:27:20 --> 01:27:26 [SPEAKER_01]: Not only is the entire cast returning, of course, from season one, but Kristen Ritter is back as Jessica Jones.
01:27:27 --> 01:27:29 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, yes, yes.
01:27:30 --> 01:27:34 [SPEAKER_01]: So then is he got to be coming shortly.
01:27:34 --> 01:27:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Come on give us the cage.
01:27:36 --> 01:27:43 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll even take any van as long as the end of the end of.
01:27:44 --> 01:27:49 [SPEAKER_01]: So we're talking about the Netflix Marvel universe for anyone who we lost there.
01:27:49 --> 01:27:55 [SPEAKER_01]: But everyone generally agrees Daredevil Jessica Jones.
01:27:56 --> 01:27:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Top shows, Luke Cage, really strong show.
01:27:59 --> 01:28:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Iron fist's not so much, but Iron fist and Luke Cage can make an interesting duo together.
01:28:08 --> 01:28:09 [SPEAKER_01]: And we got these teasers.
01:28:10 --> 01:28:11 [SPEAKER_01]: That's the one we're going to learn about.
01:28:11 --> 01:28:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:28:13 --> 01:28:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:28:14 --> 01:28:29 [SPEAKER_01]: But we know Daredevil, like not only do we have a cohesive second season, but we know that they've already confirmed on our actively developing the third season, which is anticipated to come just one year later again, March 20th, 27th.
01:28:29 --> 01:28:31 [SPEAKER_02]: And a better tie-in to do them, say.
01:28:32 --> 01:28:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:28:33 --> 01:28:33 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:28:33 --> 01:28:34 [SPEAKER_01]: I hope so.
01:28:34 --> 01:28:35 [SPEAKER_02]: I'll write it again.
01:28:35 --> 01:28:40 [SPEAKER_01]: But we're getting every year, you know, we're getting a, a new season of this.
01:28:41 --> 01:28:44 [SPEAKER_01]: And this is becoming a rare blessed thing in this modern landscape.
01:28:45 --> 01:28:46 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that is true.
01:28:47 --> 01:29:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Plus, we get this year, we don't know when, sometime, maybe mid-year, we don't know if it's gonna be before or after Daredevil born again, but one of the characters from that universe, the Punisher gets his very own special.
01:29:01 --> 01:29:15 [SPEAKER_01]: So this is probably like one episode, 50 minute, one, 50 minute episode situation, like we've seen from special, like where we'll fight night or the Guardian's holiday special.
01:29:15 --> 01:29:26 [SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, I'm no idea what that's going to be about or how it ties with what's because we know obviously he's in Daredevil, but also he's going to be showing up in Spider-Man.
01:29:26 --> 01:29:28 [SPEAKER_01]: So, could it bridge those two things?
01:29:30 --> 01:29:31 [SPEAKER_04]: Mm.
01:29:31 --> 01:29:31 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
01:29:33 --> 01:29:33 [SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
01:29:33 --> 01:29:34 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
01:29:34 --> 01:29:37 [SPEAKER_01]: They probably can't legally put Tom Holland on TV.
01:29:38 --> 01:29:41 [SPEAKER_02]: Right, and Frank Castle just, he's everywhere.
01:29:42 --> 01:29:42 [SPEAKER_02]: He also.
01:29:42 --> 01:29:45 [SPEAKER_02]: He's everywhere.
01:29:46 --> 01:29:52 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, link the two show that show in the movie because Frank has such as goes wherever he goes and kills people.
01:29:52 --> 01:29:58 [SPEAKER_01]: So I just had like the Roy Kent thing from Ted Lassa going through my head.
01:29:58 --> 01:29:58 [SPEAKER_01]: He's there.
01:29:58 --> 01:29:59 [SPEAKER_01]: He's here.
01:29:59 --> 01:29:59 [SPEAKER_01]: He's there.
01:29:59 --> 01:30:00 [SPEAKER_01]: He's everywhere.
01:30:00 --> 01:30:02 [SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, that's funny.
01:30:03 --> 01:30:07 [SPEAKER_01]: So literally that's what Freycastle is.
01:30:07 --> 01:30:10 [SPEAKER_01]: But with a gun, not a football.
01:30:10 --> 01:30:10 [SPEAKER_02]: A couple of guns.
01:30:10 --> 01:30:11 [SPEAKER_02]: There's a couple of guns.
01:30:11 --> 01:30:14 [SPEAKER_01]: This is the little light gun packing.
01:30:15 --> 01:30:28 [SPEAKER_01]: OK, and that brings us to the last major TV show of the year, last major live action, main MCU TV show of the year, the one that I'm personally most excited for.
01:30:28 --> 01:30:44 [SPEAKER_01]: yet unsurprisingly it's booked for late 2026 probably starting in December or maybe sooner I don't know they're being coy about that so hopefully it's going to be a weekly drop and that is vision quest which
01:30:44 --> 01:30:50 [SPEAKER_01]: is said to complete the Wanda and Agatha trilogy so we got Wanda vision.
01:30:50 --> 01:30:52 [SPEAKER_01]: We got Agatha all along and now we're getting vision quests.
01:30:52 --> 01:30:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Now that doesn't mean that Wanda and Agatha are coming back.
01:30:55 --> 01:31:01 [SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't expect either of them, but we do know that Billy aka Wicken is back.
01:31:01 --> 01:31:10 [SPEAKER_01]: And this time he's got, you know, watch the end of Agatha all along, but he's got his twin brother also rescued from death and put in another body.
01:31:10 --> 01:31:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Tommy played by Ruri Molika.
01:31:13 --> 01:31:25 [SPEAKER_01]: who did you see the thing where actually the actors who play Billy and Tommy happen to be in a play together where they were playing romantic interests with each other.
01:31:25 --> 01:31:28 [SPEAKER_01]: You know like kissy kissy and then they did a TikTok.
01:31:28 --> 01:31:35 [SPEAKER_01]: They're like when you find out that your love interest is actually your twin brother.
01:31:35 --> 01:31:36 [SPEAKER_02]: That's terrible.
01:31:38 --> 01:31:44 [SPEAKER_01]: But you also like, I know you were into the comics that I assume this is most based on.
01:31:44 --> 01:31:45 [SPEAKER_01]: You're going to talk about that.
01:31:45 --> 01:31:50 [SPEAKER_02]: Again, it's um, well, it's vision in his family.
01:31:51 --> 01:31:55 [SPEAKER_02]: Basically, it's not one family, not one family.
01:31:55 --> 01:31:57 [SPEAKER_02]: Now I wonder, it's found family.
01:31:57 --> 01:32:14 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think that's um, and raising um, just his children, which was really interesting, you know, take a line on the character because he's mostly been, you know, portrayed opposite human beings.
01:32:14 --> 01:32:22 [SPEAKER_02]: He's opposite, these other sentient AI's who are his children and he's, you know, bringing them up in the world.
01:32:22 --> 01:32:40 [SPEAKER_02]: And you know, this, his daughter actually becomes a member of the champions who interacts with, you know, Miss Marvel and you know, Miles Morales and all of the the younger Kate Bishop, all the younger Next-Jet heroes from Marvel Comics, which was cool.
01:32:42 --> 01:33:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and we, so we know that there is going to be this important other AI character, Jocasta, is going to be showing up play by Tenia Miller, and we have lots of like basically all of Tony Stark's various AI's are coming back, you know, we have Friday, we have Jarvis, we have Edith, it's a who's who of Marvel AI, including we have James Spaderback as Ultra,
01:33:11 --> 01:33:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Are you excited to see Ultraman back?
01:33:13 --> 01:33:15 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm more excited for Jakosta.
01:33:17 --> 01:33:24 [SPEAKER_02]: But actually, you know, Spader's Ultron was to me great, that he was the best part of that movie.
01:33:27 --> 01:33:34 [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm super excited to hear his voice back to have his voice back in the MCU.
01:33:34 --> 01:33:40 [SPEAKER_02]: He was just wonderful as Ultron.
01:33:41 --> 01:33:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm very curious about what exactly the story is going to be because we have like the hints of vision and found family from the comic books.
01:33:51 --> 01:33:54 [SPEAKER_01]: We have, you know, the jacosta of it all.
01:33:54 --> 01:34:04 [SPEAKER_01]: We have all of these other, obviously there's going to be some sort of AI convention with
01:34:04 --> 01:34:09 [SPEAKER_01]: But then we also have the human sons showing back.
01:34:09 --> 01:34:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Presumably, we left off with white vision where he was devoid of color and devoid of, he had his memories, but not his emotions attached to those memories.
01:34:21 --> 01:34:30 [SPEAKER_01]: So presumably, the boys are going to be helping him find his personality again.
01:34:31 --> 01:34:42 [SPEAKER_01]: And then we also have on top of that, we have there's reports that we're going to get some references to the 10 rings faction that kidnapped Stark in Ironman.
01:34:42 --> 01:34:49 [SPEAKER_01]: So I guess this goes together with the whole AI situation, but I'm just curious what this scope and tone of the show is going to be.
01:34:49 --> 01:34:53 [SPEAKER_01]: This is the first one in this quote unquote trilogy that's not being done by Jack Shaffer.
01:34:55 --> 01:34:58 [SPEAKER_01]: So it's it's a real question mark for me, but an intriguing one.
01:34:59 --> 01:35:14 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, I'm looking forward to this to this TV show actually, I think you know tying the wrapping the bow tying the bow around that story line makes a lot of sense and
01:35:14 --> 01:35:30 [SPEAKER_02]: Even if we don't get to see one or Agatha, maybe fingers crossed, you know, they'll surprise us, but even if we don't get them hidden in the series, I think this is a story that needs to be told in order to wrap it up.
01:35:31 --> 01:35:32 [SPEAKER_01]: right.
01:35:33 --> 01:35:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm I'm very excited that Billy and Tommy are there.
01:35:36 --> 01:35:41 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm excited to have the continuation of vision story because obviously he didn't play a role in Agatha.
01:35:42 --> 01:35:46 [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like if Tommy's there, maybe Agatha has to at least pop up.
01:35:46 --> 01:35:52 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not counting on Wanda, but maybe it'll end with being like, okay, now let's go find mom, you know.
01:35:52 --> 01:35:53 [SPEAKER_03]: Right, right.
01:35:54 --> 01:36:04 [SPEAKER_01]: So I would say it going into like before we saw the Wonder Man marketing, vision quest was easily my most anticipated.
01:36:04 --> 01:36:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Now I'm probably just most excited about Wonder Man because it's like next week already, you know, and we're actually getting taste of what it is.
01:36:11 --> 01:36:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
01:36:11 --> 01:36:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
01:36:12 --> 01:36:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
01:36:12 --> 01:36:15 [SPEAKER_01]: That's potentially quite good, so.
01:36:15 --> 01:36:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, but not too short change that we will be getting a couple season two of animated shows this year.
01:36:20 --> 01:36:30 [SPEAKER_01]: We already talked about your friendly neighborhood Spider-Man season two is allegedly coming back in quote unquote late 20s 26 with 10 episodes.
01:36:30 --> 01:36:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, so I imagine we'll want to do a one shot again once those get that definitely and season three is already confirmed.
01:36:38 --> 01:36:39 [SPEAKER_01]: So yay for that.
01:36:40 --> 01:36:41 [SPEAKER_01]: And
01:36:41 --> 01:36:57 [SPEAKER_01]: likely mid twenty twenty six they're saying season two of X man ninety seven yep up i mean that's a season one is going to be so far yeah look forward to this definitely definitely look forward to this one
01:36:57 --> 01:37:03 [SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see if it's hitting like season one is we may end up doing more than a one shot for that.
01:37:03 --> 01:37:08 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll see how it ends out with with the whole mysterious mid 2026 thing again.
01:37:08 --> 01:37:11 [SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see how crowded that mid 2026 gets.
01:37:11 --> 01:37:14 [SPEAKER_01]: But maybe even John wants to come in because he he jumped in last time.
01:37:14 --> 01:37:18 [SPEAKER_02]: He got there he did so hopefully that will be cool.
01:37:18 --> 01:37:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm, so excited for both of those and then this is technically it shouldn't really I guess count toward Marvel's total because this is actually a Sony spider-verse thing But we are getting this year spider noir a live action version of with Nicholas Cage playing the character that was introduced in the spider-verse movies It's gonna be eight episodes sometime in 2026 the cast looks great beyond that We've got Lamor and Morris.
01:37:46 --> 01:37:47 [SPEAKER_01]: We've got Brendan Gleason.
01:37:47 --> 01:37:48 [SPEAKER_01]: We've got
01:37:48 --> 01:37:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Legion Lee, who we just recently saw in Seniors, shout out to Seniors, and Jack Houston, who, well, in Jellica Houston, some, but also people might know him from May Fair, which is as blasher.
01:38:00 --> 01:38:04 [SPEAKER_01]: So the cast is like, in the tone, I love a noir.
01:38:04 --> 01:38:06 [SPEAKER_01]: I, the girl looks fun.
01:38:06 --> 01:38:08 [SPEAKER_01]: I have a soft spot for Nicholas Cage.
01:38:08 --> 01:38:10 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm very infersed by the noir.
01:38:10 --> 01:38:13 [SPEAKER_02]: Again, he knows he's totally gonna.
01:38:14 --> 01:38:19 [SPEAKER_01]: So all the way, he's gonna commit to the health.
01:38:19 --> 01:38:24 [SPEAKER_02]: He's gonna commit, he's gonna commit.
01:38:24 --> 01:38:35 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I would say like with with all of these actors, like Lamor and Morris, he's what's it from new girls, probably people know him the most, or Brendan Gleason, who, you know, Oh, that's a great case.
01:38:35 --> 01:38:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:38:36 --> 01:38:36 [SPEAKER_01]: A great case.
01:38:36 --> 01:38:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Incredible.
01:38:37 --> 01:38:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:38:38 --> 01:38:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:38:39 --> 01:38:40 [SPEAKER_01]: So, okay.
01:38:41 --> 01:38:44 [SPEAKER_01]: So we here, it comes down to the TV.
01:38:44 --> 01:38:55 [SPEAKER_01]: In the one corner, we have on the DC side, Lanterns, John's most anticipated TV show of the year overall, even outside of the Superhero genre.
01:38:56 --> 01:39:07 [SPEAKER_01]: On the other side, we have in the Marvel corner, Wonderman, Daredevil Born again season 2, Vision Quest and animated series, you're a friendly neighborhood Spider-Man and X-Men 97.
01:39:07 --> 01:39:10 [SPEAKER_01]: I said, let's not count Spider-Noir here, but still,
01:39:11 --> 01:39:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Those two had to head, where do you most excited for?
01:39:14 --> 01:39:21 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, like I said, this is, this is Marvel.
01:39:21 --> 01:39:22 [SPEAKER_02]: This is, yeah.
01:39:24 --> 01:39:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, Marvel is just at a knockout punch, but I do.
01:39:30 --> 01:39:30 [SPEAKER_01]: blame.
01:39:30 --> 01:39:35 [SPEAKER_01]: It's more of a matter of problem of our metrics, or putting them head-to-head.
01:39:35 --> 01:39:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Like not everything needs to be pitted head-to-head except I'm supposed to.
01:39:38 --> 01:39:39 [SPEAKER_02]: No, nothing has to.
01:39:42 --> 01:39:43 [SPEAKER_02]: It's the only way to live.
01:39:45 --> 01:39:52 [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I have to applaud DC for taking a more cautious approach, especially in these early days.
01:39:53 --> 01:39:59 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think we, I would honestly be surprised if they didn't surprise us with at least
01:39:59 --> 01:40:00 [SPEAKER_01]: one other show like creature.
01:40:01 --> 01:40:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I do.
01:40:02 --> 01:40:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, might just pop up or something like that.
01:40:05 --> 01:40:05 [SPEAKER_01]: So.
01:40:05 --> 01:40:10 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think they will tell us what to come out of blue beetle kind of made it.
01:40:10 --> 01:40:10 [SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
01:40:11 --> 01:40:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
01:40:11 --> 01:40:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
01:40:12 --> 01:40:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:40:12 --> 01:40:12 [SPEAKER_01]: What's it.
01:40:12 --> 01:40:13 [SPEAKER_01]: What's up with that?
01:40:14 --> 01:40:19 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, well, we're going to speculate on what might be coming in both of these.
01:40:19 --> 01:40:24 [SPEAKER_01]: The way it stands now is DC and Marvel are tied with three points each.
01:40:25 --> 01:40:31 [SPEAKER_01]: So let's see if our consideration of future factors play a role in that after a quick break.
01:40:51 --> 01:40:56 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so we're going to look at what is on the docket for the two of these.
01:40:56 --> 01:40:58 [SPEAKER_01]: What's been announced more or less?
01:40:58 --> 01:41:00 [SPEAKER_01]: It is likely some of these won't happen.
01:41:01 --> 01:41:05 [SPEAKER_01]: It's likely that others who are not even on our radar yet will slip in.
01:41:06 --> 01:41:10 [SPEAKER_01]: I realized I didn't even write down, for example, creature commendo season two.
01:41:10 --> 01:41:12 [SPEAKER_01]: No idea if that's coming back this year.
01:41:12 --> 01:41:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Or the blue beetle one because we just haven't heard anything about it for a while.
01:41:16 --> 01:41:22 [SPEAKER_01]: So, just take this for what is worth here of some teas is, which do you want to start with this time?
01:41:23 --> 01:41:24 [SPEAKER_02]: We can start with them, see you.
01:41:25 --> 01:41:26 [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
01:41:27 --> 01:41:30 [SPEAKER_02]: So, Secret War Avengers Secret Wars, right?
01:41:30 --> 01:41:31 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm 27, December 27.
01:41:34 --> 01:41:37 [SPEAKER_02]: They haven't announced any other movies so far for 27, right?
01:41:38 --> 01:41:38 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
01:41:39 --> 01:41:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:41:40 --> 01:41:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's see.
01:41:41 --> 01:41:41 [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
01:41:41 --> 01:41:45 [SPEAKER_02]: So, we're hearing rumors of a Shangxi sequel.
01:41:46 --> 01:41:59 [SPEAKER_02]: um, uh, possible, it's equal to fantastic for a first step, we've heard rumors of amores, we've heard rumors of blade being resurrected from the dead, um,
01:42:01 --> 01:42:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we don't even know anything about TV like they're not saying they're really keeping their cards close to their chest So like the reason we know armor wars and blade is because they were announced to ages ago and they're every time they're brought up It's you know, they're not saying they're dead yet They're just like oh, no, you know this need more development.
01:42:20 --> 01:42:21 [SPEAKER_01]: So
01:42:22 --> 01:42:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so let's see about those champions or all these other things.
01:42:27 --> 01:42:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and so that's so we know we know the multiversaga ends December 17th, 2027 with Avengers Secret Wars, but we do have some what's coming up in 2028 and beyond then.
01:42:42 --> 01:42:48 [SPEAKER_02]: Then Ryan Kubler has said that
01:42:49 --> 01:42:54 [SPEAKER_02]: with, um, Damson, E-Dressor, as the child.
01:42:54 --> 01:43:04 [SPEAKER_01]: He did not announce that part, didn't have to do that, but it sounds hard, and that will always be the case, no matter what the reality is.
01:43:07 --> 01:43:09 [SPEAKER_02]: And potentially, there's a lot of things.
01:43:09 --> 01:43:11 [SPEAKER_01]: But Denzel Washington, that is confirmed.
01:43:13 --> 01:43:18 [SPEAKER_01]: Would you think Denzel Washington's gonna play like a villain or an ally?
01:43:18 --> 01:43:19 [SPEAKER_01]: I kind of want to miss a villain.
01:43:20 --> 01:43:22 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, this Denzel.
01:43:23 --> 01:43:24 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it'd be great, really.
01:43:24 --> 01:43:26 [SPEAKER_02]: Do whatever you want to do, brother.
01:43:26 --> 01:43:27 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
01:43:27 --> 01:43:28 [SPEAKER_02]: That's it.
01:43:29 --> 01:43:31 [SPEAKER_02]: Potentially a X-Men phone.
01:43:35 --> 01:43:38 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm excited about the X-Men phones right now.
01:43:39 --> 01:43:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Jake Schreier, Jake Schreier, the director of Thunderbolts is apparently currently attached to Getsman's new X-Men films, so that has me excited because like I said, this X-Men story, it's a story about
01:43:58 --> 01:44:13 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, finding your place in the world and and it's a story about mental health and it's something that takes a certain Diligence and delicacy and I think jex jex, jex, shire Actually, that in Thunderbolts
01:44:13 --> 01:44:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and Michael Leslie is the one who's writing it.
01:44:16 --> 01:44:19 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm less familiar with him.
01:44:19 --> 01:44:27 [SPEAKER_01]: But if Jake Schreier wants to work with him, I will he've co-wrote the Hunger Games Ballet of Songbirds and Snakes.
01:44:29 --> 01:44:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm less familiar with him, but I'm excited to cautiously optimistic about this.
01:44:36 --> 01:44:38 [SPEAKER_01]: And then two more spider films as we said.
01:44:38 --> 01:44:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Not to mention, beyond the speed of the universe.
01:44:41 --> 01:44:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, it's own thing, 2027.
01:44:44 --> 01:44:51 [SPEAKER_01]: June 24th, June 4th, 2027 is the latest reporting as of our recording.
01:44:52 --> 01:44:54 [SPEAKER_01]: It's been pushed a few times, which I don't blame them for.
01:44:54 --> 01:44:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Please give the animators during the time let them sleep and stuff.
01:44:58 --> 01:44:59 [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
01:44:59 --> 01:44:59 [SPEAKER_02]: And paid them well.
01:45:00 --> 01:45:00 [SPEAKER_02]: Do I write?
01:45:00 --> 01:45:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
01:45:02 --> 01:45:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:45:04 --> 01:45:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:45:05 --> 01:45:05 [SPEAKER_01]: OK.
01:45:05 --> 01:45:10 [SPEAKER_01]: roughly what we've got going on on the Marvel side now on the DC side.
01:45:10 --> 01:45:16 [SPEAKER_01]: We already teased one with what's the one we have on July 9th, 2027.
01:45:17 --> 01:45:22 [SPEAKER_02]: We have soups, Superman, Man of Tomorrow, Beth Thumbin, directly.
01:45:25 --> 01:45:33 [SPEAKER_02]: James gummed back in the director's seat.
01:45:33 --> 01:45:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it seems like it's going to pick up the piece maker story.
01:45:36 --> 01:45:37 [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm excited about that.
01:45:37 --> 01:45:38 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:45:38 --> 01:45:39 [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm looking forward to that as well.
01:45:40 --> 01:45:44 [SPEAKER_02]: And we don't know much more about what actually is happening.
01:45:45 --> 01:45:53 [SPEAKER_02]: We have a lot of things being bandied about the brave and the bold, that's a bad man movie.
01:45:53 --> 01:46:01 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not the bad man from a bad man movie.
01:46:01 --> 01:46:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and that's directed as of now it's Andy Musquietti is attached to direct and he is the director of the it Movies and then welcome to dairy TV show.
01:46:14 --> 01:46:19 [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm excited about that like we do doing a horror take a bat family horror take.
01:46:19 --> 01:46:20 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm there for that
01:46:21 --> 01:46:51 [SPEAKER_01]: and to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able
01:46:51 --> 01:47:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's the back and do something because I'm a man thing maniac and I would love to get into this one thing as well
01:47:03 --> 01:47:29 [SPEAKER_01]: future editor Alicia here, just popping in to say that this was recorded before the news about Kathleen Kennedy broke and she gave that interview to Deadline where she talked about ongoing Star Wars projects and said that basically James Mangold had turned in a script for the Dawn of the Jedi movie, but it sounds like Bob Iger basically was too nervous about it, you know,
01:47:29 --> 01:47:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Didn't get it.
01:47:30 --> 01:47:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Thought it was taking too many risks.
01:47:32 --> 01:47:39 [SPEAKER_01]: So they're just going to be focusing for now on the sequel trilogy timeline and you know what's after that.
01:47:40 --> 01:47:43 [SPEAKER_01]: So want want that's the unfortunate update there.
01:47:43 --> 01:47:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Although apparently it's not dead It's just on hold and James mangled.
01:47:48 --> 01:47:57 [SPEAKER_01]: The stuff he's busy with right now is all related to paramount Okay, well we'll see fingers crossed
01:47:58 --> 01:48:02 [SPEAKER_02]: We're a potential man in the bottom again, one in the woman move.
01:48:03 --> 01:48:08 [SPEAKER_02]: Also having an authority movie that we don't know if they're ever going to do.
01:48:09 --> 01:48:10 [SPEAKER_01]: It was a dream.
01:48:10 --> 01:48:10 [SPEAKER_01]: It was a dream.
01:48:10 --> 01:48:12 [SPEAKER_01]: It was a dream.
01:48:12 --> 01:48:13 [SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was a movie.
01:48:13 --> 01:48:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, maybe it was a movie.
01:48:14 --> 01:48:15 [SPEAKER_02]: But that could be real.
01:48:15 --> 01:48:19 [SPEAKER_02]: It's another DC superhero team in that.
01:48:19 --> 01:48:21 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, it was a movie.
01:48:22 --> 01:48:24 [SPEAKER_01]: We met the engineer in Superman.
01:48:24 --> 01:48:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, we did.
01:48:28 --> 01:48:29 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's see.
01:48:29 --> 01:48:32 [SPEAKER_02]: Teen Titans from maybe.
01:48:33 --> 01:48:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, apparently they depriorized the Teen Titans film because it was just wasn't getting there and a bane and death stroke film that would be fun.
01:48:42 --> 01:48:50 [SPEAKER_01]: And then also there was this whole like they were fast tracking this sergeant rock movie directed by Luca Guadalino, who
01:48:50 --> 01:48:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, he's like did everything from like challengers to call me by your name And Daniel Craig was gonna star, but now Guadalino and Daniel Craig are out.
01:48:59 --> 01:49:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Colin Ferrell is maybe in But maybe it's not happening at all.
01:49:03 --> 01:49:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Would you be excited about a start rock?
01:49:06 --> 01:49:10 [SPEAKER_02]: Love where two no no no no
01:49:10 --> 01:49:12 [SPEAKER_01]: don't pay me that's why they didn't go forward.
01:49:12 --> 01:49:13 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
01:49:13 --> 01:49:19 [SPEAKER_01]: It would have been, I would have been super interested to see what Luca Guadna, you know, did with that, but he's out.
01:49:19 --> 01:49:22 [SPEAKER_01]: I need to hear who the new director is before I get excited.
01:49:22 --> 01:49:24 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's it.
01:49:24 --> 01:49:28 [SPEAKER_02]: I have to hear Sergeant Ratt now.
01:49:28 --> 01:49:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Teen Titans and Bifun.
01:49:29 --> 01:49:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
01:49:30 --> 01:49:31 [SPEAKER_01]: That's Draco Bifun.
01:49:31 --> 01:49:39 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'll be cool with those, but I never, I
01:49:40 --> 01:49:43 [SPEAKER_02]: Like who wants it?
01:49:43 --> 01:49:43 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:49:43 --> 01:49:43 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:49:45 --> 01:49:48 [SPEAKER_02]: And then yeah, so we have the TV size.
01:49:48 --> 01:49:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:49:49 --> 01:49:50 [SPEAKER_02]: Books are gold.
01:49:51 --> 01:49:51 [SPEAKER_02]: Possibly.
01:49:52 --> 01:49:55 [SPEAKER_01]: We have to explain what that is again for people who don't know.
01:49:56 --> 01:49:57 [SPEAKER_02]: Books are gold, I'm sorry.
01:49:57 --> 01:50:07 [SPEAKER_02]: Books are gold is a superhero that comes from the future into the past because he wants to be a great superhero.
01:50:08 --> 01:50:13 [SPEAKER_02]: So he's a time traveling superhero.
01:50:13 --> 01:50:33 [SPEAKER_02]: and he comes from the future where superheroes have been made into like corporate, like they're like they're almost like athletes, you know, they show, they sell most matters of sports drinks and you know, they're just
01:50:34 --> 01:50:38 [SPEAKER_02]: the modern day, Adlyts, in his time, period.
01:50:38 --> 01:50:41 [SPEAKER_02]: But he actually wants to be a superhero.
01:50:42 --> 01:50:46 [SPEAKER_02]: So he goes back in time into the age where he believes the superheroes were the best.
01:50:46 --> 01:50:52 [SPEAKER_02]: And he becomes a member of the Justice League, tries to prove himself in many adventures.
01:50:53 --> 01:50:55 [SPEAKER_02]: He fails a lot of times.
01:50:55 --> 01:50:55 [SPEAKER_02]: He fails.
01:50:57 --> 01:50:58 [SPEAKER_02]: But he tries.
01:50:59 --> 01:51:01 [SPEAKER_01]: I hope that one's still happening.
01:51:01 --> 01:51:06 [SPEAKER_01]: I know it sounds weird, but I like weird, so I'm kind of curious.
01:51:06 --> 01:51:15 [SPEAKER_02]: He's also an interesting character because he's also a jerk, so to me, at least, so maybe other, but don't think he has, but to me I think he is, so we'll see.
01:51:17 --> 01:51:18 [SPEAKER_02]: There's the waller.
01:51:19 --> 01:51:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's been like, so it was going to be before peace maker.
01:51:23 --> 01:51:26 [SPEAKER_01]: And then it was like, no, we're going to do peace maker first and re-jigger it.
01:51:26 --> 01:51:31 [SPEAKER_01]: But then it's like, I have feels like they're stuck on the script phase there.
01:51:31 --> 01:51:33 [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know if it's going to happen.
01:51:33 --> 01:51:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you want it to?
01:51:36 --> 01:51:37 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, yeah.
01:51:39 --> 01:51:41 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I want Violet Davis.
01:51:41 --> 01:51:43 [SPEAKER_02]: Give me a give her a TV show.
01:51:45 --> 01:51:55 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, give a, eight episodes, 35, 45 minutes per episode and watch her work, I think it'll be awesome.
01:51:57 --> 01:52:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I think you're like, I got excited about the idea of her and Lex Luther having a good time.
01:52:02 --> 01:52:04 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's going to be awesome.
01:52:04 --> 01:52:05 [SPEAKER_02]: Go for 45 minutes each week.
01:52:05 --> 01:52:06 [SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be awesome.
01:52:07 --> 01:52:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:52:09 --> 01:52:13 [SPEAKER_01]: And paradise lost.
01:52:14 --> 01:52:17 [SPEAKER_01]: What do you want to explain with that as supposed to be?
01:52:17 --> 01:52:31 [SPEAKER_02]: It's supposed to be in the scarosse where the Amazon's have been living outside of the world and how their society has, you know, as in a woman.
01:52:31 --> 01:52:32 [SPEAKER_02]: Looking to their society.
01:52:33 --> 01:52:43 [SPEAKER_02]: And for those who don't know, yes, go into one minute for them the scarosse is Amazon, as well as a goddess with them and goddess.
01:52:44 --> 01:52:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, are they all in regards to the mascara then all the MSNs?
01:52:49 --> 01:52:55 [SPEAKER_01]: No, um Well, we don't know what her backstory is gonna be in this version.
01:52:55 --> 01:53:00 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so we don't know if they're gonna play her as a goddess or not, so we'll see
01:53:01 --> 01:53:10 [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I think that the idea, as I heard it, was that it was sort of a prequel to Wonder Woman in a way.
01:53:11 --> 01:53:13 [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know if they'll keep that or if they'll keep the show.
01:53:13 --> 01:53:17 [SPEAKER_01]: But I was excited about that about just focusing on theme of Skira.
01:53:17 --> 01:53:19 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think that would be great.
01:53:19 --> 01:53:20 [SPEAKER_02]: I would love to see that.
01:53:21 --> 01:53:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like before, she's the only one.
01:53:24 --> 01:53:25 [SPEAKER_02]: All the mythology.
01:53:26 --> 01:53:26 [SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
01:53:28 --> 01:53:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
01:53:30 --> 01:53:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
01:53:30 --> 01:53:33 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so.
01:53:33 --> 01:53:38 [SPEAKER_01]: with with those on the table and all of the possibilities and directions that they could go.
01:53:38 --> 01:53:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
01:53:40 --> 01:53:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Post 2026.
01:53:41 --> 01:53:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Of course, no, we have not yet seen 2026, but we're looking ahead of that.
01:53:45 --> 01:53:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, post 2026, what are you most excited about going forward?
01:53:50 --> 01:54:03 [SPEAKER_01]: The MCU or the MCU mutant saga, we should say, or the DCU, where this God's and monsters chapter is going to go.
01:54:04 --> 01:54:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:54:04 --> 01:54:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
01:54:05 --> 01:54:06 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:54:06 --> 01:54:07 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't go with Marvel.
01:54:08 --> 01:54:12 [SPEAKER_02]: Just on the strength of give you giving me black Panther 3.
01:54:13 --> 01:54:15 [SPEAKER_02]: They're giving me the X-Men.
01:54:16 --> 01:54:22 [SPEAKER_02]: I can't, I can't, yeah.
01:54:22 --> 01:54:23 [SPEAKER_02]: I go with Marvel in this way.
01:54:25 --> 01:54:33 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, um, I am actually going to go with DC because I didn't, I would never have expected that going in.
01:54:34 --> 01:54:40 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not trying to be contrived, I'm not trying to do that, but I mean, I guess it didn't be contrived.
01:54:40 --> 01:54:51 [SPEAKER_01]: I just, um, I am very worried about Marvel, whether there is a focus vision there, and also even more worried about them just kind of scaling back to,
01:54:53 --> 01:54:55 [SPEAKER_01]: only what they think are the most commercial characters.
01:54:55 --> 01:55:08 [SPEAKER_01]: And I like that the DC is on the other hands like, now let's let's give you the big names Superman and Wonder Woman and all that, but let's also explore the weird and give you new names to love.
01:55:08 --> 01:55:30 [SPEAKER_02]: But I will say to what you just said, is that if we're talking X-Men, we're talking Black Panther, we're talking about these are potential shum shi, right, we're talking a potential blade and everything that entire I've stopped holding my breath for blade, but I hope we're hoping we're looking ahead, right?
01:55:30 --> 01:55:34 [SPEAKER_02]: We don't know if anything is a country for you, which is for the first two.
01:55:34 --> 01:55:38 [SPEAKER_02]: So I think
01:55:38 --> 01:55:44 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think to your point, what you just said about what the D.C. and the verses to and I think more of this to end up as well.
01:55:44 --> 01:55:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
01:55:46 --> 01:55:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, at the end of the day, the final tally is Marvel gets three points collectively and D.C. got five.
01:55:54 --> 01:55:56 [SPEAKER_01]: So D.C. wins.
01:55:57 --> 01:56:04 [SPEAKER_01]: I would never have expected that I would be a driving force in that afternoon.
01:56:04 --> 01:56:07 [SPEAKER_02]: It was you, it was you all alone.
01:56:07 --> 01:56:08 [SPEAKER_01]: My fault.
01:56:08 --> 01:56:09 [SPEAKER_01]: It was Alicia.
01:56:09 --> 01:56:12 [SPEAKER_01]: It was you all alone.
01:56:12 --> 01:56:15 [SPEAKER_01]: I knew it was you, I know it was you.
01:56:16 --> 01:56:17 [SPEAKER_02]: You don't go against the family.
01:56:18 --> 01:56:18 [SPEAKER_01]: I know.
01:56:18 --> 01:56:19 [SPEAKER_01]: It was the family.
01:56:19 --> 01:56:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, Godfather.
01:56:23 --> 01:56:31 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, but I am, as I said, out of everything on here, I'm, maybe this just says something about my personality.
01:56:31 --> 01:56:42 [SPEAKER_01]: I am currently most excited for the very next thing, which is Wonderman again, 8 episodes dropping January 27th will be back beginning of February to break them down.
01:56:43 --> 01:56:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Super excited about that.
01:56:45 --> 01:56:48 [SPEAKER_01]: And we want to hear your thoughts, please email them to comics and then let us know.
01:56:48 --> 01:56:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, let us know where you're going to come.
01:56:51 --> 01:56:52 [SPEAKER_01]: You'll find that link to the show notes.
01:56:53 --> 01:56:58 [SPEAKER_01]: And actually, we have something else to talk about that will come out probably just before that.
01:56:59 --> 01:57:07 [SPEAKER_01]: And that is the Bowden Temple, the new 28 years later movie is coming out January 15th.
01:57:07 --> 01:57:18 [SPEAKER_01]: Directed by Nia Dekosta of Candyman and the Marvel's fame, and Tess and Heta, I should say, her new movie Heta is doing quite well in a word season.
01:57:19 --> 01:57:26 [SPEAKER_01]: And Tess audiences apparently went crazy for the bone temple, and the third film off the back of that has already been confirmed.
01:57:26 --> 01:57:27 [SPEAKER_01]: So yay.
01:57:28 --> 01:57:30 [SPEAKER_02]: Look in forward to zombies.
01:57:31 --> 01:57:34 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think we're getting Riley back at or not, too, who was meant to be a little bit.
01:57:34 --> 01:57:36 [SPEAKER_01]: That's when we all session.
01:57:36 --> 01:57:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's great.
01:57:38 --> 01:57:40 [SPEAKER_01]: What else we got going on on the lower hands main fee?
01:57:41 --> 01:57:43 [SPEAKER_02]: So we got the pleuribus season wrap up.
01:57:44 --> 01:57:51 [SPEAKER_02]: There's a practical VFX interview with Lee Romero that I think David is doing.
01:57:51 --> 01:57:51 [SPEAKER_02]: I did.
01:57:51 --> 01:57:52 [SPEAKER_01]: No, I did it.
01:57:52 --> 01:57:52 [SPEAKER_02]: But you did it.
01:57:52 --> 01:57:53 [SPEAKER_02]: OK, excuse me.
01:57:54 --> 01:57:56 [SPEAKER_02]: So that will be dropping one.
01:57:57 --> 01:57:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we've been.
01:57:58 --> 01:58:00 [SPEAKER_01]: I think it'll be dropping in next week.
01:58:00 --> 01:58:01 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, cool.
01:58:01 --> 01:58:10 [SPEAKER_02]: And then there's, this is going to be extensive coverage of a night of the seven kingdoms, both lower hounds and properly Howard feeds.
01:58:11 --> 01:58:14 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, three episodes a week, three in the proper.
01:58:14 --> 01:58:19 [SPEAKER_01]: They Howard's feed, one on the Large Hound's feed, where we could also have the main episode.
01:58:20 --> 01:58:29 [SPEAKER_01]: So it's going to be, because Anthony, obviously, Maester Anthony is the, a song of ice and fire universe expert.
01:58:30 --> 01:58:33 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, going to be pretty much him in everyone.
01:58:33 --> 01:58:37 [SPEAKER_01]: You're in good hands with your a night of the seven kingdoms coverage.
01:58:38 --> 01:58:45 [SPEAKER_01]: John and I both reread the books recently very excited as well David coming in fresh and Steve bringing his humor.
01:58:45 --> 01:58:47 [SPEAKER_01]: He he doesn't has read the books, though.
01:58:48 --> 01:58:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Nice.
01:58:48 --> 01:58:54 [SPEAKER_01]: So David's our fresh face And Marilyn and I are going to do a Percy Jackson one shot at the end of the minute.
01:58:54 --> 01:58:55 [SPEAKER_02]: When are you on do that?
01:58:55 --> 01:58:55 [SPEAKER_02]: I want in.
01:58:56 --> 01:58:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you weren't okay awesome.
01:58:57 --> 01:58:58 [SPEAKER_02]: I want it.
01:58:58 --> 01:58:58 [SPEAKER_02]: I want it.
01:58:59 --> 01:59:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we haven't scheduled yet, but like shortly after I forget after the the final episode.
01:59:05 --> 01:59:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the final episode is the last week in January.
01:59:08 --> 01:59:10 [SPEAKER_01]: So right cool.
01:59:10 --> 01:59:10 [UNKNOWN]: Let me know.
01:59:10 --> 01:59:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:59:11 --> 01:59:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Cool, cool, cool.
01:59:12 --> 01:59:13 [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
01:59:13 --> 01:59:16 [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, an award-season coverage is already beginning.
01:59:17 --> 01:59:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Then Oscar nominees are being announced January 22nd, my birthday.
01:59:22 --> 01:59:26 [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, David and I have already scheduled our kickoff for that weekend.
01:59:27 --> 01:59:30 [SPEAKER_01]: So we can talk through the best picture from runners.
01:59:30 --> 01:59:35 [SPEAKER_01]: If you want to get a head start, make sure you're watching sinners and listening to our coverage.
01:59:36 --> 01:59:40 [SPEAKER_01]: One battle after
01:59:40 --> 01:59:44 [SPEAKER_02]: Are you watching Center here listening to centers and you're watching centers?
01:59:44 --> 01:59:45 [SPEAKER_01]: It's in more centers.
01:59:46 --> 01:59:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Frankenstein also definitely going to be a best picture, and also we haven't covered them yet on the network.
01:59:51 --> 01:59:56 [SPEAKER_01]: They're both still in theaters, Hamlet and Marty Supreme are other big names for this season.
01:59:56 --> 02:00:04 [SPEAKER_01]: So if you want to get a head start there and come chat with us in the discord about it all, find that linked in the link tree in the show notes.
02:00:04 --> 02:00:09 [SPEAKER_02]: want to hear all your thoughts and yeah let's let's talk about these.
02:00:09 --> 02:00:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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02:03:45 --> 02:03:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, John.
02:03:47 --> 02:03:48 [SPEAKER_02]: Not that instrument that was wild.
02:03:48 --> 02:03:48 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
02:03:51 --> 02:03:52 [SPEAKER_01]: That's a wild.
02:03:52 --> 02:03:54 [SPEAKER_01]: That's epic triumphant cut.
02:03:56 --> 02:03:57 [SPEAKER_02]: That was wild.
02:04:02 --> 02:04:06 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I already told Fiky what it is, I already told Fiky.
02:04:06 --> 02:04:08 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, all right, all right, all right.
02:04:08 --> 02:04:09 [SPEAKER_02]: We is 26, man.
02:04:09 --> 02:04:11 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm just an address.
02:04:11 --> 02:04:14 [SPEAKER_02]: I just rewatch F1 from home, brother.
02:04:15 --> 02:04:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Would, yeah, I just watch F1 for the first time, actually.
02:04:17 --> 02:04:18 [SPEAKER_01]: So, I know.
02:04:18 --> 02:04:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, no, no, no.
02:04:20 --> 02:04:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, but here's a question.
02:04:22 --> 02:04:25 [SPEAKER_01]: What do you want to say to Netflix about taking over DC?
02:04:28 --> 02:04:29 [SPEAKER_02]: I can't ask me that right now.
02:04:29 --> 02:04:33 [SPEAKER_01]: I got the theatrical windows are important.
02:04:33 --> 02:04:33 [SPEAKER_01]: Remember the money.
02:04:34 --> 02:04:37 [SPEAKER_02]: No, the 17 day thing got to go out of the window.
02:04:37 --> 02:04:41 [SPEAKER_01]: And you're not being dropped for the love of God, but he's doing not being dropped.
02:04:41 --> 02:04:44 [SPEAKER_01]: OK. Yeah.
02:04:44 --> 02:04:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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