David is joined by Lorehounds co-host Jean and Nichole from the Nevermind the Music podcast to check in on Hulu's Paradise, starring Sterling K. Brown and James Marsden. The conversation opens spoiler-free with their pitches for why you should be watching, then dives into season one's twists and character-driven storytelling before breaking down season two's bold expansion to the surface, the introduction of new characters like Annie and Link, and the show's unique use of contemporary cultural touchpoints in its post-apocalyptic setting.
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00:19 --> 00:26 [SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to the Lorehouse, where you're guys to yet another post-apocalyptic story.
00:26 --> 00:27 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm your host David.
00:28 --> 00:34 [SPEAKER_01]: This is our check-in episode to discuss paradise on Hulu, both season one and season two.
00:34 --> 00:38 [SPEAKER_01]: With me today, our Lorehouse co-host Jean, Jean, how you doing?
00:38 --> 00:39 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm telling you, I'm good.
00:40 --> 00:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you good.
00:40 --> 00:41 [SPEAKER_02]: You guys survived the Blizzard?
00:41 --> 00:47 [SPEAKER_02]: Survived, hopefully thriving, but we'll see because they say it this snow it's
00:47 --> 00:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, it's coming back.
00:48 --> 00:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think you had some weather today.
00:51 --> 00:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Nicole is also here.
00:54 --> 00:57 [SPEAKER_01]: She is the host of Nevermind the music.
00:57 --> 01:02 [SPEAKER_06]: Um, I'll say the co-host or mark my co-host will get kind of jealous.
01:02 --> 01:04 [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, yeah, all right, it's happy to be here.
01:04 --> 01:05 [SPEAKER_06]: One of the co-hosts.
01:05 --> 01:05 [SPEAKER_06]: One of the co-hosts.
01:06 --> 01:06 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
01:06 --> 01:06 [SPEAKER_06]: Neros.
01:07 --> 01:08 [SPEAKER_06]: Um, I'm doing great.
01:08 --> 01:10 [SPEAKER_06]: I'm on spring break this week.
01:10 --> 01:11 [SPEAKER_06]: So already down.
01:11 --> 01:16 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I teach college and we're on break for our March break.
01:16 --> 01:18 [SPEAKER_06]: And I've been catching up on a lot of stuff.
01:18 --> 01:22 [SPEAKER_06]: I'm really eager to chat with you guys, both this print this awesome show.
01:22 --> 01:32 [SPEAKER_01]: It's so weird to see you because I feel like you and I were connected at the hip during blur of us and we just had this weekly thing and we had it going on and then it was over.
01:32 --> 01:36 [SPEAKER_06]: No, we were like laughing so hard and now it's like, where's David?
01:36 --> 01:40 [SPEAKER_06]: We're like, we're just texting each other now about random random pop culture things.
01:41 --> 01:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, young men branding themselves.
01:43 --> 01:45 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it turns out not a thing.
01:45 --> 01:47 [SPEAKER_06]: I want to hop on your pit coverage.
01:47 --> 01:52 [SPEAKER_06]: I'm loving the show
01:52 --> 01:54 [SPEAKER_06]: But we have a while to go for a floor of this again.
01:54 --> 01:56 [SPEAKER_06]: So we have to find something to talk about.
01:56 --> 01:57 [SPEAKER_06]: Let me do it.
01:57 --> 01:58 [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, we can get you in on that.
01:58 --> 02:00 [SPEAKER_01]: We can get you in on some, some pick coverage for sure.
02:00 --> 02:05 [SPEAKER_01]: OK, we're going to start the podcast off with some spoiler free discussion.
02:06 --> 02:12 [SPEAKER_01]: So if you have not seen the show yet in your questioning, should I get in on this show?
02:12 --> 02:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Because I know a lot of the people in the lower-house community are talking about it.
02:15 --> 02:17 [SPEAKER_01]: And it's getting a lot of buzz in the media.
02:17 --> 02:38 [SPEAKER_01]: What I'm going to do is I'm going to ask a john and a coal to each give their pitch as to what they're loving about the show and why you should be watching it but spoiler free then we'll take a short commercial break and then we'll come back we'll talk briefly about season one and then we'll talk a little bit more in depth about season two.
02:38 --> 02:41 [SPEAKER_01]: And as always, there are links in the show notes.
02:41 --> 02:45 [SPEAKER_01]: If you've got feedback, hit us up at lorehounds at the lorehounds.com.
02:46 --> 02:49 [SPEAKER_01]: We have a channel on the Discord to talk about paradise.
02:49 --> 02:54 [SPEAKER_01]: So if you're like, you know in the show and you want to kick some more stuff around, you can check it out there.
02:54 --> 03:01 [SPEAKER_01]: And as always, subscribe if you are able, we really appreciate all of the support from our community.
03:01 --> 03:06 [SPEAKER_01]: And if you're not able to make those finances work, give us a rating and a review on Apple Podcasts.
03:06 --> 03:08 [SPEAKER_01]: That really does help podcast a lot.
03:08 --> 03:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Like surprisingly, it's a big deal.
03:10 --> 03:16 [SPEAKER_01]: So let's talk real quick about the show itself.
03:16 --> 03:23 [SPEAKER_01]: So this is a show starring Sterling Kay Brown, Julia Nicholson, and James Marston.
03:23 --> 03:26 [SPEAKER_01]: We're on season two right now.
03:26 --> 03:32 [SPEAKER_01]: We're at what episode five I believe on an eight episode wrong for season two.
03:32 --> 03:35 [SPEAKER_01]: So we'll be wrapping up here at the end of March.
03:37 --> 03:43 [SPEAKER_01]: This show got a ton of nominations for Emmys and other things.
03:43 --> 03:51 [SPEAKER_01]: It hasn't won anything but Sterling Cape Brown like got nominated in like dozens of different award categories for his performance here.
03:52 --> 03:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Rotten Tomatoes has got this at an 86% for critics in a 6.5 for audience.
03:58 --> 04:01 [SPEAKER_01]: The streaming numbers are really strong for this show.
04:01 --> 04:09 [SPEAKER_01]: We haven't got word yet about season three, but I can't see that they're not going to have a green light a season three, like it did.
04:10 --> 04:14 [SPEAKER_01]: All the data is suggesting that it's going to go that way.
04:14 --> 04:18 [SPEAKER_01]: So, Jean, what is your pitch?
04:19 --> 04:21 [SPEAKER_01]: What are you loving about the show, spoiler free?
04:21 --> 04:26 [SPEAKER_01]: So, people aren't on the show, like, given the pitch, why they should be on.
04:26 --> 04:31 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, if you like Sterling K. Brown, how could you not?
04:31 --> 04:35 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think we'd all are all three of us.
04:36 --> 04:38 [SPEAKER_01]: We're fans, right?
04:38 --> 04:41 [SPEAKER_02]: I think the whole humanity should be fans at this point.
04:41 --> 04:42 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
04:42 --> 04:44 [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, he's just great.
04:44 --> 04:46 [SPEAKER_02]: Sterling K. Brown can carry my baby.
04:46 --> 04:47 [SPEAKER_02]: It's good.
04:47 --> 04:48 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, absolutely.
04:48 --> 04:50 [SPEAKER_02]: No question.
04:51 --> 04:53 [SPEAKER_02]: He's just really good in this series.
04:54 --> 05:00 [SPEAKER_02]: Like he brings a level of gravitas and emotion to almost every scene that he's in.
05:01 --> 05:04 [SPEAKER_02]: And it's just an amazing tour to force of our performance.
05:04 --> 05:12 [SPEAKER_02]: I think given the subject matter, you know, it's not something that's
05:12 --> 05:19 [SPEAKER_02]: we would think of, I don't think of Sterling K-Brown as someone who fairs in sci-fi, right?
05:19 --> 05:20 [SPEAKER_02]: I'd never thought about that.
05:20 --> 05:21 [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
05:21 --> 05:22 [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
05:22 --> 05:25 [SPEAKER_02]: But he's just, he's in it, then.
05:26 --> 05:27 [SPEAKER_02]: And I enjoyed his watch.
05:27 --> 05:28 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a joy to see.
05:29 --> 05:31 [SPEAKER_02]: And I just really enjoy his performance.
05:31 --> 05:39 [SPEAKER_02]: And also there are, you know, James Martin, for he, you know, all the crap I've given my Cyclops, he's really good in this.
05:39 --> 05:45 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, I just think he's, um, they have a really cool dynamic.
05:45 --> 05:48 [SPEAKER_02]: The two of them, I went into it.
05:48 --> 05:53 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, so it was a real pleasure to watch them play off of each other.
05:54 --> 05:54 [SPEAKER_02]: And that first you there.
05:55 --> 05:58 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, and just, you know,
05:59 --> 06:10 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a twisty show, you know, you don't know who the trust you don't know where people really stand in their shifting allegiances.
06:10 --> 06:13 [SPEAKER_02]: And it's just really, really fun.
06:14 --> 06:15 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a fun show.
06:15 --> 06:19 [SPEAKER_02]: For such a heavy, you know, end of the world.
06:20 --> 06:22 [SPEAKER_02]: But it's the fun ride throughout.
06:22 --> 06:28 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think people
06:29 --> 06:32 [SPEAKER_01]: got it, uh, Nicole.
06:32 --> 06:33 [SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
06:33 --> 06:34 [SPEAKER_01]: What are your arguments for?
06:34 --> 06:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
06:35 --> 06:36 [SPEAKER_06]: I'm pro.
06:37 --> 06:38 [SPEAKER_06]: My argument is pro.
06:38 --> 06:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Totally.
06:39 --> 06:40 [SPEAKER_01]: I think clearly.
06:40 --> 06:44 [SPEAKER_06]: Pro, Sterling K Brown, pro James Marston for sure.
06:44 --> 06:45 [SPEAKER_06]: He's great in this role.
06:45 --> 06:47 [SPEAKER_06]: Is the perfect role for him?
06:47 --> 06:50 [SPEAKER_06]: And they're funny together.
06:50 --> 06:52 [SPEAKER_06]: It's not meant to be funny, but they are.
06:52 --> 06:56 [SPEAKER_06]: And that's my pitch for the show because my husband watched it.
06:56 --> 06:58 [SPEAKER_06]: And I was kind of on in the background.
06:58 --> 07:00 [SPEAKER_06]: And I was like, this show's not for me.
07:00 --> 07:02 [SPEAKER_06]: I don't like really sci-fi stuff.
07:02 --> 07:04 [SPEAKER_06]: And it seems too serious.
07:04 --> 07:05 [SPEAKER_06]: It seems too scary.
07:06 --> 07:09 [SPEAKER_06]: But then season two was coming out and I was like, let me get into this.
07:09 --> 07:12 [SPEAKER_06]: And I couldn't stop watching it because it was so...
07:13 --> 07:15 [SPEAKER_06]: It wasn't as sci-fi as I thought.
07:15 --> 07:16 [SPEAKER_06]: It was so...
07:16 --> 07:19 [SPEAKER_06]: rooted in the human condition and the human spirit.
07:19 --> 07:21 [SPEAKER_06]: And I'm just very interested in that.
07:21 --> 07:26 [SPEAKER_06]: It's got kind of like Truman show vibes a little bit and into that too.
07:27 --> 07:29 [SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of silo vibes in there.
07:29 --> 07:35 [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, but it's like silo, but not as dystopian, almost.
07:35 --> 07:37 [SPEAKER_06]: So I thought that that was kind of cool.
07:37 --> 07:40 [SPEAKER_01]: I was also picking up, sorry to interrupt you.
07:40 --> 07:46 [SPEAKER_01]: It was like a little bit of walking dead and a little bit of the last of us, like post-apocalyptic survivors.
07:46 --> 08:02 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, and it's cool because it talks about post-apocalyptic survivor stuff like silo, like the walking dead, but it also, especially in season two, gets into like time and place references that they exist in today's world and this happened.
08:02 --> 08:06 [SPEAKER_06]: And they're talking about what happened two years ago and it did happen two years ago for us.
08:06 --> 08:11 [SPEAKER_06]: So it's really easy to see yourself in this position more so,
08:11 --> 08:20 [SPEAKER_06]: for me to put myself into the walking dead or to silo because they're using like pop culture limpo's like mile markers and I think that's really cool.
08:21 --> 08:24 [SPEAKER_06]: So my pitch for the show is it's not super sci-fi.
08:25 --> 08:28 [SPEAKER_06]: It's actually kind of funny and every episode is like a mini cliffhanger.
08:29 --> 08:30 [SPEAKER_06]: You don't know where it's going.
08:30 --> 08:32 [SPEAKER_06]: I'm really good at figuring stuff out.
08:33 --> 08:37 [SPEAKER_06]: No, no big deal, and I, and I, you're a professional podcaster.
08:37 --> 08:39 [SPEAKER_06]: I'm really, and I'm a trained psychologist.
08:39 --> 08:40 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, exactly, right.
08:40 --> 08:43 [SPEAKER_06]: Interesting, I was working for me for once.
08:43 --> 08:51 [SPEAKER_06]: And I, as soon as I think I haven't figured it out, as soon as I think I haven't figured out, it looks which is again, and I love that.
08:51 --> 08:58 [SPEAKER_06]: And the fact that it drops once a week makes, yeah, I just pondered the show a lot more than if I were just to binge it all at once.
08:58 --> 09:01 [SPEAKER_06]: So be watching Paradise.
09:01 --> 09:03 [SPEAKER_06]: It's in my top 10 shows on TV this year.
09:04 --> 09:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Nice to meet you.
09:05 --> 09:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Question for you both, Nicole, you can start off.
09:11 --> 09:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
09:11 --> 09:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Is the, well, well, I guess I should say this for folks listening if they haven't watched this, this show intentionally uses flashbacks as it's story design and story construction.
09:27 --> 09:57 [SPEAKER_01]: And so we're constantly going back from the past to the, you know, to the current, the past to the current, a lot in, in a, in a ways, in ways that the, that lost did a lot, but it's not lost in, in the sense of making more complex mysteries, it's always illuminating about character, about how we got to a particular place in the story.
09:57 --> 10:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Is that part of the story construction that you're enjoying?
10:01 --> 10:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Would you advocate for that?
10:04 --> 10:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Or is that, you know, how are you responding to flashback?
10:07 --> 10:08 [SPEAKER_01]: The flashback.
10:08 --> 10:25 [SPEAKER_06]: I love a flashback convention because for me, when I meet a character, I tend to build out their backstory in my head, and I love when shows and books, especially do this, when they go back and tell us and fill in the gaps for us, because I get to either a firm, my point of view, or just prove it.
10:25 --> 10:36 [SPEAKER_06]: And it always adds value to how I've developed the character and really gives a sense of their present time motivations because in this show, you don't really know what people's motivations are at the jump.
10:36 --> 10:37 [SPEAKER_06]: Like you...
10:37 --> 10:38 [SPEAKER_06]: Totally true.
10:38 --> 10:40 [SPEAKER_06]: You have an assumption on purpose.
10:40 --> 10:41 [SPEAKER_06]: On purpose.
10:41 --> 10:42 [SPEAKER_06]: And then...
10:42 --> 10:47 [SPEAKER_06]: they're like peppering it and filling in the gaps for you and I've always been intrigued by that convention.
10:47 --> 10:51 [SPEAKER_06]: Most of the media I consume has that type of element to it.
10:52 --> 11:00 [SPEAKER_06]: I'm reading this great book now called Project Hail Mary that they're making into the made into a movie and it does use a lot of flashbacks as well.
11:00 --> 11:03 [SPEAKER_06]: And I'm realizing now I think that that's why I love it.
11:04 --> 11:05 [SPEAKER_06]: And I think that's what I love this show.
11:05 --> 11:10 [SPEAKER_06]: So thanks for playing the bring that forward for me because I never really picked up on that connection.
11:10 --> 11:14 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think Alicia's going to be doing some coverage on Project Hill there.
11:14 --> 11:22 [SPEAKER_01]: I can't remember if John said he's in on it, but yeah, if you're reading the book, maybe send a message to Alicia right quick.
11:22 --> 11:26 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because I know she's got some, yeah, I know she's planning on something.
11:26 --> 11:28 [SPEAKER_01]: I believe she is, anyway, maybe I just made it up.
11:28 --> 11:29 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
11:30 --> 11:31 [SPEAKER_01]: It's such a swirl.
11:31 --> 11:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Life is not just a swirl right now.
11:32 --> 11:32 [SPEAKER_01]: So, right?
11:33 --> 11:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Joan, use a flashback.
11:35 --> 11:43 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, and I wouldn't bring it up because it's not like, oh, here's a little flashback here and there to fill in some story.
11:43 --> 11:49 [SPEAKER_01]: It is the central element of design of this show for the flashback.
11:49 --> 11:50 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I like it.
11:53 --> 11:54 [SPEAKER_02]: I dig it.
11:54 --> 11:54 [SPEAKER_02]: I like it.
11:55 --> 12:01 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not, I'm not tied into particular ways of storytelling.
12:01 --> 12:07 [SPEAKER_02]: If the story is being told in a way that's compelling, no matter how they're telling it, I'm cool with it.
12:07 --> 12:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
12:08 --> 12:10 [SPEAKER_01]: So if it's working, it's working.
12:10 --> 12:11 [SPEAKER_02]: It's working.
12:11 --> 12:18 [SPEAKER_02]: And in this case, the flashbacks actually do work.
12:19 --> 12:30 [SPEAKER_02]: the motivations behind, you know, Xavier behind, you know, Sanatra and start to, you know, try to figure these folks out, right?
12:31 --> 12:42 [SPEAKER_02]: Whether, like Nicole said, it comes through fruition, what I really believe, what I'm seeing on screen, whether that's validated or not, it's really cool, right?
12:42 --> 12:42 [SPEAKER_02]: I want to see.
12:43 --> 12:47 [SPEAKER_02]: But I, yeah, I'm a fan of the flashbacks, I think.
12:47 --> 12:52 [SPEAKER_02]: It brings more depth to these characters and, yeah, keep doing it.
12:53 --> 12:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Nice.
12:54 --> 12:54 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, cool.
12:55 --> 13:00 [SPEAKER_01]: Any other final little things that might have come to mind or should we take a break?
13:01 --> 13:03 [SPEAKER_01]: And then when we come back, we can talk about season one.
13:04 --> 13:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Good.
13:05 --> 13:06 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, let's take a break.
13:06 --> 13:12 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll be right back.
13:19 --> 13:23 [SPEAKER_01]: and we're back.
13:24 --> 13:31 [SPEAKER_01]: So this is kind of a weird formatting for us in terms of our coverage.
13:32 --> 13:38 [SPEAKER_01]: We didn't talk about season 1 at all and here we are more than half way of season 2.
13:38 --> 13:44 [SPEAKER_01]: And so it's like, oh, how do we approach this or how do we talk about certain things?
13:44 --> 13:46 [SPEAKER_01]: So I figured, let's just talk a little bit about season one.
13:46 --> 13:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's not get too stuck in and try to break it all apart.
13:51 --> 14:00 [SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, if there's anything key details or major plot elements or twists, there was what episode was it that everybody was talking about?
14:00 --> 14:03 [SPEAKER_01]: I think it was like episode 7 or something like that from
14:03 --> 14:10 [SPEAKER_01]: There was a the big heel turn episode in season one when everybody was like, oh my god, it's like a huge reveal.
14:10 --> 14:11 [SPEAKER_02]: No, it wasn't seven.
14:11 --> 14:12 [SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't seven.
14:12 --> 14:13 [SPEAKER_01]: It was earlier than that.
14:13 --> 14:14 [SPEAKER_01]: It was up five.
14:14 --> 14:17 [SPEAKER_02]: It might have been either four or five.
14:17 --> 14:18 [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
14:18 --> 14:24 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, so we can talk about whatever we want, but then I want to definitely move us into season two.
14:24 --> 14:29 [SPEAKER_01]: So just really quick, kind of a long-ish synopsis, just a refresh us.
14:30 --> 14:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Season one, a paradise follows secret service agent Xavier Collins is the investigates the murder of former US president, Cal Bradford, inside paradise.
14:40 --> 14:51 [SPEAKER_01]: a high-tech underground bunker in Colorado that it's two twenty-five thousand residents believe is humanity's last refuge after a global catastrophe.
14:51 --> 15:01 [SPEAKER_01]: The season long mystery begins when brand furred is found dead in his residence with a missing tablet and a cryptic six-digit code.
15:01 --> 15:22 [SPEAKER_01]: and suspicion falls on bunker architect Samantha aka Sinatra Redmond before the finale reveals the true killer as Trent, the so-called librarian, who is actually a construction manager seeking revenge and trying to stop Bradford from revealing the truth about the outside world.
15:22 --> 15:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Over the season, Xavier learns that the surface is partly survivable, and that Sinatra has been covering this up by eliminating scientists in bearing their findings while flashbacks to the day, show Bradford choosing to detonate a global electromagnetic pulse over to stop nuclear missiles that have been launched between several countries, which leaves millions alive
15:51 --> 15:55 [SPEAKER_01]: In the finale, Jane Driscoll turns against Sinatra.
15:55 --> 16:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Jane Driscoll's one of the other secret service agents supposedly turns out she's like a super secret deep mole spy person.
16:04 --> 16:11 [SPEAKER_01]: And she shoots Sinatra and takes Xavier's and Bradford's son.
16:11 --> 16:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, in kidnaps, Xavier's daughter and then Bradford's son, the President's son,
16:20 --> 16:36 [SPEAKER_01]: and they begin broadcasting proof of the survivable surface to the folks in paradise and then Xavier leaves the bunker in an airplane after hearing a radio transmission from his wife setting up his search for her in season two.
16:36 --> 16:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Nicole, what's something from season one that really
16:43 --> 16:44 [SPEAKER_01]: you know.
16:44 --> 17:07 [SPEAKER_06]: I really loved the episode where they showed the day that everything broke and they had to evacuate the Capitol and you have President Bradford played by a young James Marston and it like running around trying to be a hero and he is and really trying to bring everyone down to his level and he has such a great affect, like such a great um
17:07 --> 17:15 [SPEAKER_06]: way about him that was really endearing to me in those moments and you could see everyone else kind of just breaking down and he was trying to do the right thing.
17:15 --> 17:24 [SPEAKER_06]: There's a one great line when his chiefs of staff are briefing him and they're using all this high-level language and he goes, guys, I was an English lit major.
17:24 --> 17:26 [SPEAKER_06]: Like, let's make it simple.
17:26 --> 17:30 [SPEAKER_06]: And I just was that levity in that moment that was really endearing to me.
17:31 --> 17:37 [SPEAKER_06]: So I liked seeing and glad they showed us that because I feel like in a lot of shows like this, you don't see that moment.
17:38 --> 17:40 [SPEAKER_06]: You just see like what happened after.
17:40 --> 17:47 [SPEAKER_06]: Like you don't see when it's all collapsing and how they get out and how hectic and chaotic and sad that moment was.
17:47 --> 17:50 [SPEAKER_06]: So that was one of like favorite things from season one.
17:50 --> 17:54 [SPEAKER_06]: You describe Jane Dysk, Driscollas, like an undercover mole.
17:54 --> 17:58 [SPEAKER_06]: She is a hundred percent associated path, the hundred percent.
17:58 --> 17:59 [SPEAKER_06]: Seriously.
17:59 --> 18:03 [SPEAKER_06]: Like there's no redemption for her.
18:03 --> 18:04 [SPEAKER_06]: I'm eager to see.
18:04 --> 18:05 [SPEAKER_06]: We haven't even seen her.
18:06 --> 18:06 [SPEAKER_06]: Sorry.
18:06 --> 18:07 [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, no spoilers.
18:07 --> 18:09 [SPEAKER_06]: So what's up?
18:09 --> 18:10 [SPEAKER_01]: So sorry.
18:10 --> 18:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, yes, we should say, from here for war, we're going to spoil everything up to have you guys both watched episode five or were you both at, yes, I'm fully caught up.
18:21 --> 18:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, okay.
18:21 --> 18:23 [SPEAKER_01]: So so we have the mailman, right?
18:23 --> 18:24 [SPEAKER_01]: So we know who the mailman.
18:24 --> 18:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I'm halfway through the episode, but don't worry about that.
18:29 --> 18:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
18:30 --> 18:31 [SPEAKER_01]: I already kind of was oiled.
18:32 --> 18:34 [SPEAKER_01]: I kind of know and do it to you.
18:34 --> 18:36 [SPEAKER_07]: It's too good.
18:37 --> 18:38 [SPEAKER_01]: It's so good.
18:39 --> 18:42 [SPEAKER_01]: But that's because I know that there's a lie.
18:42 --> 18:44 [SPEAKER_01]: There's a lie right out of that over here.
18:44 --> 18:48 [SPEAKER_01]: You just have to keep watching.
18:48 --> 18:54 [SPEAKER_06]: And that's like the really great thing about this show that season one was really, really good at.
18:54 --> 18:59 [SPEAKER_06]: You couldn't even just assume how the episode was going and it always flipped it around on you.
18:59 --> 19:01 [SPEAKER_06]: And that's just really enticing and really interesting.
19:02 --> 19:07 [SPEAKER_06]: So I had a lot of questions coming out of season one, into season two, they haven't all been answered yet.
19:08 --> 19:11 [SPEAKER_06]: And when you say that there's only three episodes left, I'm like, how are they going to?
19:11 --> 19:13 [SPEAKER_02]: How are they going to do it?
19:13 --> 19:15 [SPEAKER_06]: How are they going to land the plane here?
19:15 --> 19:18 [SPEAKER_01]: Because that's a lot up in the air, like for sure.
19:18 --> 19:23 [SPEAKER_01]: And this is the thing about the show is the pacing.
19:24 --> 19:28 [SPEAKER_01]: They are not, they have a pace to the show.
19:28 --> 19:35 [SPEAKER_01]: that is tied to the tone of the show and they will not break that pace for anything.
19:35 --> 19:50 [SPEAKER_01]: They will play out like the first episode where we're not even in season two yet, but the eight episodes of season one, I kept waiting for things to ramp up and get out of control or whatever or things to keep.
19:50 --> 19:56 [SPEAKER_01]: They just took their damn time all the way through and I think that's
19:56 --> 19:59 [SPEAKER_01]: design because they want a certain vibe for the show.
19:59 --> 19:59 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
20:00 --> 20:01 [SPEAKER_06]: It's working.
20:01 --> 20:03 [SPEAKER_06]: It's very measured and calculating.
20:03 --> 20:04 [SPEAKER_06]: Right.
20:05 --> 20:05 [SPEAKER_02]: That's it.
20:05 --> 20:06 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
20:06 --> 20:07 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
20:07 --> 20:07 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry.
20:07 --> 20:10 [SPEAKER_02]: When it's funny that you say that because.
20:10 --> 20:12 [SPEAKER_02]: I felt things were out of control from the beginning.
20:12 --> 20:19 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, people, when you say you waited for things to ramp up, I was already ramped up.
20:20 --> 20:21 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, is this the first step?
20:21 --> 20:22 [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm like, what's interesting?
20:22 --> 20:24 [SPEAKER_07]: Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
20:24 --> 20:24 [SPEAKER_07]: I think that's it.
20:25 --> 20:27 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe make me make my heart of flutter or something.
20:27 --> 20:28 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
20:28 --> 20:31 [SPEAKER_02]: But I was told, I was ramped up.
20:31 --> 20:33 [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, yo, what is happening here?
20:33 --> 20:34 [SPEAKER_02]: What's going on?
20:35 --> 20:36 [SPEAKER_02]: I was totally bored.
20:36 --> 20:40 [SPEAKER_06]: And he's like running, he's running everywhere.
20:40 --> 20:57 [SPEAKER_02]: I just didn't feel like the pacing of the story was ever leading up to this super fast, kinetic energetic type of movement, right?
20:57 --> 20:59 [SPEAKER_02]: It was always that to me.
20:59 --> 21:03 [SPEAKER_02]: because the gravity of the situation made me feel the same way.
21:04 --> 21:07 [SPEAKER_02]: So I didn't feel like they needed to read.
21:07 --> 21:11 [SPEAKER_02]: I thought the situation was level 100 already.
21:12 --> 21:13 [SPEAKER_02]: So I was already a power.
21:14 --> 21:20 [SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, so, and I love that about the show because even,
21:22 --> 21:23 [SPEAKER_02]: with the flashbacks, right?
21:23 --> 21:33 [SPEAKER_02]: I think let me just say one of my favorite parts of season one was the flashback between Xavier and his father, right?
21:34 --> 21:44 [SPEAKER_02]: Everything that's going on around this around this show, around this time, this story, everything that's happening and they tell that
21:45 --> 22:04 [SPEAKER_02]: to give you a sense of who Xavier is, where he's been the relationships that he's had, how, and then to know that it's gonna play out in a very important way at the end of the season where he's actually piloting a plane.
22:05 --> 22:05 [SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?
22:05 --> 22:08 [SPEAKER_02]: It's not coming out of the blue.
22:08 --> 22:31 [SPEAKER_02]: like this is this is something that I really appreciated and just a dynamic between him and his father just really it hit me it hit me really really emotionally in that moment watching those scenes and I think for a show to do something like that for me it's always you know unexpected because I don't expect shows to you know
22:33 --> 22:38 [SPEAKER_02]: necessarily hit me in the emotional spectrum in that way, right?
22:38 --> 22:42 [SPEAKER_02]: But I really felt touched watching that moment between the two of them.
22:43 --> 22:53 [SPEAKER_02]: And then it shows me the way that he is, why he's that way, and why he takes care to such
22:54 --> 23:05 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, why he's holding on so hard I can't help for making him leave his family, his wife behind, why he blames him to such an extent.
23:06 --> 23:10 [SPEAKER_02]: And it's just, yeah, just really a bit story tell about that.
23:10 --> 23:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, and that's what I'm saying about the pacing and the way that they unfold the story,
23:18 --> 23:36 [SPEAKER_01]: that they went and spent all that time with Xavier's backstory and we get more backstory stuff and this one that they don't in what could be a very quick paste.
23:36 --> 24:05 [SPEAKER_01]: apocalypse story like what are the events leading up to the apocalypse and what is the secret cabal up to that could have been a different network a different showrunner this could have been a really action forward thing but it's not it's a very character driven thing and they take
24:06 --> 24:08 [SPEAKER_01]: and then we always spend, go ahead and hope.
24:09 --> 24:28 [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, I was just going to say that that was clear in season one season two, the build out of the characters becomes really, really important and really clear, and that's, I think the central focus of the second season as well, and they're like starting to do that deeply in the first season, but the character development in season two is quite deep and quite strong.
24:29 --> 24:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
24:30 --> 24:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, I'm not going to make false representations here.
24:39 --> 25:05 [SPEAKER_01]: did I even make I think I made it through episode four and it is episode seven that is the it's called the day and that's the one where everybody was like oh my god but yeah I ground down around episode four I was the flashbacks were kind of exhausting me and I didn't really understand with the the show what was going on with the show and so and I've been sticking
25:07 --> 25:12 [SPEAKER_01]: And yet, I have some nitpicks for the show.
25:12 --> 25:15 [SPEAKER_01]: The football, I'm just, I gotta go off for a second.
25:15 --> 25:16 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.
25:16 --> 25:18 [SPEAKER_01]: The football is not a computer.
25:19 --> 25:27 [SPEAKER_01]: The real football that the president carries is a bunch of maps and code books, a couple of radios, and that's it.
25:27 --> 25:33 [SPEAKER_01]: It is not a electronic device as such and that we have a global electromagnetic pulse thing.
25:34 --> 25:36 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just like, I'm not there.
25:36 --> 25:40 [SPEAKER_01]: But I'm accepting, especially why can't you be this?
25:40 --> 25:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Why not?
25:40 --> 25:43 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just up because the show says, this is reality.
25:43 --> 25:44 [SPEAKER_01]: This is like, oh, primary.
25:45 --> 25:46 [SPEAKER_01]: And this is a mirror for the primary world.
25:46 --> 25:47 [SPEAKER_07]: Yes.
25:47 --> 25:50 [SPEAKER_07]: I'm having a hard time believing that the football's maps paper maps.
25:51 --> 25:53 [SPEAKER_07]: He's basically like that seems unbelievable to me.
25:53 --> 25:55 [SPEAKER_07]: Like, have it be a tablet?
25:55 --> 25:58 [SPEAKER_07]: Like, yeah, it's crazy.
25:59 --> 26:03 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, there's like Donald Trump's carrying around, like a box of maps with him everywhere.
26:03 --> 26:04 [SPEAKER_07]: He goes, that seems hard to believe.
26:04 --> 26:18 [SPEAKER_01]: There's basically two radios to separate, you know, back up in a private, you know, a secure radios, and then there's just a ton of code books and map, so, you know, they have.
26:18 --> 26:24 [SPEAKER_01]: free game theory out a bunch of different, you know, war games scenarios, right?
26:24 --> 26:39 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, if you go back to Matthew Broderick and war games of Wapur, right, you know, all the different scenarios and with with casualty counts and expected, you know, if we do this, they'll do that.
26:39 --> 26:41 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a bunch of chess moves.
26:41 --> 26:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Basically, it's a giant book.
26:43 --> 26:45 [SPEAKER_01]: with all the different chess moves.
26:45 --> 26:54 [SPEAKER_01]: If we move here first then these guys do this or if they do this first then we do that and there's the air force officer is trained for all of that stuff.
26:54 --> 26:55 [SPEAKER_01]: to interpret it and explain it.
26:56 --> 26:58 [SPEAKER_01]: And then there's the secret codes, right?
26:58 --> 27:02 [SPEAKER_01]: The special sequence of words that he can give to the nuclear authority.
27:02 --> 27:04 [SPEAKER_01]: And then other people are pushing buttons.
27:05 --> 27:12 [SPEAKER_01]: And they get on on the special radio and they say, okay, you know, code, alpha, blue, security clearance A12345.
27:12 --> 27:16 [SPEAKER_01]: And then that, then other people press the buttons.
27:16 --> 27:20 [SPEAKER_01]: So, I just want to
27:20 --> 27:22 [SPEAKER_02]: What if that's the swan?
27:23 --> 27:24 [SPEAKER_02]: That is actually a tablet.
27:25 --> 27:28 [SPEAKER_02]: But they convinced you that it's a map.
27:28 --> 27:33 [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, I do feel like an encrypted PDF or something would be a lot more efficient.
27:33 --> 27:35 [SPEAKER_07]: Like then just sell these bands.
27:35 --> 27:36 [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know.
27:36 --> 27:39 [SPEAKER_06]: I would like it if it was like alpha 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, though.
27:39 --> 27:40 [SPEAKER_06]: I think that that would be pretty unbrand.
27:41 --> 27:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Sure the coach.
27:42 --> 27:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's keep it simple.
27:44 --> 27:45 [SPEAKER_01]: You know it's my birthday.
27:45 --> 27:46 [SPEAKER_01]: This is my birthday.
27:46 --> 27:47 [SPEAKER_01]: You're fine.
27:47 --> 27:48 [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm done.
27:48 --> 27:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Don't joke about it.
27:49 --> 27:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
27:50 --> 27:51 [SPEAKER_01]: No.
27:51 --> 27:53 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like reality.
27:53 --> 27:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
27:53 --> 27:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Right now.
27:54 --> 27:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
27:55 --> 27:55 [SPEAKER_01]: So that's my way.
27:56 --> 27:56 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
27:56 --> 28:02 [SPEAKER_01]: So, and I know we're not in the season two yet, but there are, and I was like, ah, alright.
28:02 --> 28:03 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll stick with it.
28:03 --> 28:09 [SPEAKER_01]: And there's two things, there's three things that keep me in on that kept me through season one.
28:09 --> 28:12 [SPEAKER_01]: And then there's one thing that's hit me for season two.
28:12 --> 28:14 [SPEAKER_01]: That's keeping me hooked.
28:15 --> 28:20 [SPEAKER_01]: The sort of being innovative design, you know, doing the flashback thing.
28:20 --> 28:21 [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm into that.
28:21 --> 28:23 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm really into the theme music.
28:23 --> 28:31 [SPEAKER_01]: I love that.
28:31 --> 28:41 [SPEAKER_01]: And then Sterling K-Brown, right, he's just, you know, he's, he's, he's handsome, he has that thousand yard stare.
28:41 --> 28:47 [SPEAKER_01]: He's just has a kind of, I remember when he was in, what is it?
28:47 --> 28:50 [SPEAKER_01]: I have to look up his filmography now.
28:50 --> 28:58 [SPEAKER_01]: It was that movie that he was in that one an Oscar a couple of years
29:00 --> 29:21 [SPEAKER_01]: uh yeah that was American fiction yeah with uh Jeffrey Wright uh and it was about a family yeah and I think at one chord Jefferson who wrote it and I believe he won the Oscar four best screen play a no Alicia will remind me by wrong about that
29:22 --> 29:25 [SPEAKER_01]: And you were a great little film, and now it was just so impressed with his acting chops.
29:25 --> 29:35 [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, his sort of soulful character, and yeah, and I guess just all the way that they're doing the character development is what is keeping me engaged in the show.
29:37 --> 29:41 [SPEAKER_01]: So Nicole, anything else for a season one that you wanted to touch on?
29:41 --> 29:49 [SPEAKER_06]: No, I'm really curious to revisit some of the characters in season one that we haven't yet seen in season two.
29:50 --> 29:52 [SPEAKER_06]: And like, what's happening with them?
29:53 --> 29:56 [SPEAKER_06]: We'll get to season two in a minute, but we haven't spent a lot of time in the bunker.
29:57 --> 29:58 [SPEAKER_02]: No, you're on the other side, right?
29:58 --> 29:59 [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
29:59 --> 30:00 [SPEAKER_06]: So like, where's the sun?
30:01 --> 30:04 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, like, you know, where are all these people?
30:04 --> 30:05 [SPEAKER_06]: Like, what's going on there?
30:06 --> 30:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
30:06 --> 30:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Was it season one or season two where we see, no, I think it's season two where we see some of what's going on in the bunk or where people would be.
30:14 --> 30:15 [SPEAKER_06]: Some flashbacks.
30:15 --> 30:26 [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, yeah, we see we see at the end of season one, we see him taking to the sun taken to the prison of the bunker where the bunker architect is all that season one, yeah, I think that was the end of season one.
30:27 --> 30:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, got it.
30:27 --> 30:29 [SPEAKER_06]: I think and that's deep deep down.
30:31 --> 30:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Right, which is given me like big silo vibes.
30:34 --> 30:37 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think there's like secrets in with seek within secrets here.
30:37 --> 30:41 [SPEAKER_06]: Well, that's what's really interesting is that like the bunker is very,
30:41 --> 30:53 [SPEAKER_06]: 1950s Americana, and that's something I'm really interested in, like, the social ethics of the design of the community in this universe.
30:53 --> 30:57 [SPEAKER_06]: And I want to talk about that when we talk about my three things that I love in C2.
30:58 --> 30:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Got it.
30:59 --> 30:59 [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
30:59 --> 31:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, let's jump on there unless you got anything else shown that you want to hit on that.
31:03 --> 31:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's go.
31:03 --> 31:08 [SPEAKER_01]: See you soon, too.
31:17 --> 31:18 [SPEAKER_01]: and we're back.
31:18 --> 31:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so let's start talking about season two.
31:21 --> 31:26 [SPEAKER_01]: But obviously season one is open, you know, because we can't talk about season two without talking about season one.
31:26 --> 31:30 [SPEAKER_01]: So a quick synopsis of the story so far.
31:30 --> 31:39 [SPEAKER_01]: The story continues to alternate between Xavier's mission on the surface and then growing instability inside the bunker.
31:39 --> 31:45 [SPEAKER_01]: three years after the day, Xavier leaves paradise and a plane to search for his wife Terry.
31:45 --> 31:53 [SPEAKER_01]: He survives a crash and then he teams up with Annie, a former medical student in Graceland, tour guide, who's been living, who's been surviving topside.
31:54 --> 32:03 [SPEAKER_01]: By episode five, he reaches the community where Terry lived and meets Gary, a former mailman, who shared a home with her for three years,
32:03 --> 32:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Gary secretly obsessed with Terry, killed his friend Ennis to stop Terry from leaving for Colorado and then sets a trap for Xavier saying that she was taken.
32:16 --> 32:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Meanwhile, inside Paradise Samantha, aka Sanatra, has awakened and re-entered the political struggle.
32:22 --> 32:39 [SPEAKER_01]: President Harry Baines tries to hold power as Jeremy Bradford leads an organized rebellion in a band of surface mercenaries led by Link moves towards the bunker, apparently to kill someone named Alex and possibly seize the facility.
32:39 --> 32:49 [SPEAKER_01]: flashbacks in revelations show that Sinatra was diverting resources to a larger secret project beyond the bunker, hiding evidence that the outside was becoming habitable.
32:49 --> 33:06 [SPEAKER_01]: And while episode four delivers a major blow with Annie's death, shortly after giving birth to her and Link's baby, and we are episode five of eight, and we're scheduled to wrap up at the end of the month.
33:06 --> 33:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Nicole, do you want to lead us off with your season two?
33:10 --> 33:16 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't do it come hot takes what are these just your takes so much there's so many take go for it.
33:16 --> 33:17 [SPEAKER_06]: I'm going to keep it concise
33:19 --> 33:20 [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, great.
33:21 --> 33:21 [SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
33:21 --> 33:21 [SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
33:21 --> 33:23 [SPEAKER_01]: So he has all of it.
33:23 --> 33:27 [SPEAKER_06]: It's so happy how it's like flooding out flooding into my for brain all at once.
33:28 --> 33:36 [SPEAKER_06]: I'm loving how we're seeing some external locations outside of the bunker and how they're all quite different.
33:37 --> 33:38 [SPEAKER_06]: I love the Graceland piece.
33:39 --> 33:45 [SPEAKER_06]: I think it's so funny that she's like walking around and Elvis's slippers, you know, and like wearing Priscilla's outfits.
33:45 --> 33:47 [SPEAKER_06]: It's just so
33:47 --> 34:03 [SPEAKER_06]: bizarre and kind of lovely and nostalgic to me in that first episode we're introduced to link and two minutes into seeing him on screen I screamed because I said maybe you guys don't know but I was like that's Harry Hook.
34:04 --> 34:05 [SPEAKER_06]: Do you know who Harry Hook is?
34:05 --> 34:08 [SPEAKER_06]: I do not know who I'm like, gosh, and you have daughters.
34:08 --> 34:08 [SPEAKER_06]: I don't understand.
34:09 --> 34:12 [SPEAKER_06]: So there is a very good, very good.
34:12 --> 34:14 [SPEAKER_06]: There's a movie called The Descendants.
34:14 --> 34:15 [SPEAKER_06]: It's like a kid's movie.
34:15 --> 34:18 [SPEAKER_06]: And there's a great character, Harry Hook.
34:18 --> 34:20 [SPEAKER_06]: He's Captain Hook's son.
34:20 --> 34:26 [SPEAKER_06]: And I really got through COVID watching Descendants with my kid having such a crush on Harry Hook.
34:26 --> 34:31 [SPEAKER_06]: So much that I followed him on Instagram, I'm a huge Thomas D'Arty fan.
34:32 --> 34:33 [SPEAKER_06]: came on the screen.
34:33 --> 34:34 [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, is this character?
34:35 --> 34:37 [SPEAKER_01]: About the kids of the fans.
34:38 --> 34:38 [SPEAKER_01]: The villains?
34:39 --> 34:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
34:40 --> 34:43 [SPEAKER_06]: It was Captain Hook's kid just carried a hook with them all the time.
34:43 --> 34:43 [SPEAKER_06]: It was so funny.
34:44 --> 34:44 [SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
34:44 --> 34:47 [SPEAKER_06]: He was cute and wore eyeliner and I'm into it.
34:47 --> 35:02 [SPEAKER_06]: So I was, it really hit a lot of great notes for me in this like a band diagram of my interests of Harry Hook and also Zelda and also post-apocalyptic survival stories, like those are my three main areas of interest.
35:02 --> 35:16 [SPEAKER_06]: The introduction of this character really ignited me towards the story and hearing him and his bands back story reminded me of the time in place that this is happening in a way that season to continue to do.
35:16 --> 35:18 [SPEAKER_06]: That we're not
35:18 --> 35:24 [SPEAKER_06]: in the future apocalypse, like we're not way back in the past, we're right here and now with a modern day.
35:24 --> 35:29 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, and I think that that was refreshing and really relatable.
35:29 --> 35:34 [SPEAKER_06]: So that's one thing I love about season two that we're grounded in very current time and place.
35:35 --> 35:44 [SPEAKER_06]: And we're reminded of that a lot and I just love the introduction of this link character as calling him a protagonist.
35:45 --> 35:54 [SPEAKER_06]: He's a leader of a lot of people and he's very young and he's got a lot of charisma and I'm really interested to see where this story goes.
35:54 --> 36:03 [SPEAKER_06]: I love, like, love actually moment with him in front of the camera like holding the the cue cards to like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
36:03 --> 36:11 [SPEAKER_06]: And he, like, references as a love actually moment, and it's just like, like, cultural touch point that they're embedding here that I think is really cool.
36:12 --> 36:18 [SPEAKER_01]: So really quick on that, uh, note about time and place.
36:18 --> 36:30 [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of apocalypse stories are either distant past, alternate universe, distant future, but rarely do we get them lined up with us right now.
36:30 --> 36:33 [SPEAKER_01]: So that's a really interesting observation.
36:33 --> 36:35 [SPEAKER_01]: I hadn't really thought about that as such.
36:35 --> 36:46 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we get, I guess, live walking dead and, and, and the last of us are contemporaneous, but they are such
36:46 --> 36:50 [SPEAKER_01]: The world is shifted so much because of the zombie aspect of it.
36:50 --> 36:52 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, it doesn't feel like real.
36:52 --> 36:53 [SPEAKER_01]: We're here.
36:54 --> 36:58 [SPEAKER_01]: There's only sort of an environmental threat.
36:58 --> 37:01 [SPEAKER_01]: There's not a zombie threat or some other sort of creature thing.
37:01 --> 37:03 [SPEAKER_01]: So the world is still the world in a way.
37:03 --> 37:21 [SPEAKER_06]: and there's such a checks to position between those like very 20, 20 cultural references and the architecture of what's in the bunker and what does feel very nostalgic and that's another point that I'm really interested is that balance of nostalgia there.
37:22 --> 37:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Jean, what's one thing for you?
37:24 --> 37:27 [SPEAKER_01]: And then we'll come back to Unical, so we'll kind of keep on going back of Earth.
37:29 --> 37:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Annie.
37:31 --> 37:33 [SPEAKER_02]: We're not gonna miss Annie.
37:33 --> 37:40 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, okay, so I said there's one thing that got me for so far in season two.
37:40 --> 37:55 [SPEAKER_02]: I was like kind of skeptical watching and it was that scene where she dies, and he's got a baby I mean, yeah, that that first the first episode of the watching I'm like fuck at least we
37:55 --> 38:06 [SPEAKER_02]: We're going on with the people that I know in me, right?
38:06 --> 38:23 [SPEAKER_02]: Some sitting there watching it and I'm just saying, oh, oh, and you know, I'm getting drawn into these characters, these these people, and how they're surviving, and how they survived, and what it means for their survival.
38:25 --> 38:30 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just going to say this really quickly, this is my second point about this season.
38:31 --> 38:32 [SPEAKER_02]: I trust no one.
38:35 --> 38:49 [SPEAKER_02]: I love a show where I immediately spider senses start tingling and I don't care anyone, right?
38:50 --> 38:58 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, because I know a lot of nerds who are not kind people.
38:59 --> 39:03 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm a lot there.
39:03 --> 39:18 [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I will, I am, you know, I'm just like waiting for this other shoot a drop as to what has done in order to survive this post.
39:18 --> 39:20 [SPEAKER_02]: you know, you human world.
39:20 --> 39:22 [SPEAKER_06]: So, probably being so handsome.
39:23 --> 39:24 [SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
39:25 --> 39:26 [SPEAKER_02]: That's true.
39:26 --> 39:28 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, so yeah, that's where I met.
39:28 --> 39:34 [SPEAKER_02]: So those two things, any her story, her survival story.
39:34 --> 39:35 [SPEAKER_02]: the whole Graceland thing.
39:35 --> 39:36 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not an Elvis person.
39:36 --> 39:47 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not a fan of Elvis, but just the hilarity that she survived in Graceland to me is worth, you know, the entire first two episodes.
39:48 --> 39:50 [SPEAKER_02]: Just rather known that she survived.
39:51 --> 39:57 [SPEAKER_02]: She wrote out two of Hockelips at Graceland is just peak and I really love
39:58 --> 40:06 [SPEAKER_01]: And this is what I was saying, this goes back to the point I was making before about the fact that this show will take its time with a character.
40:06 --> 40:14 [SPEAKER_01]: And that we spent the whole first episode without seeing anybody from season 1, that really baffled me.
40:14 --> 40:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, wow, this is a choice.
40:15 --> 40:17 [SPEAKER_01]: This is a bold choice.
40:17 --> 40:21 [SPEAKER_01]: And the question is, is can they make it pay off?
40:21 --> 40:23 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think they did.
40:23 --> 40:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, do I, can I necessarily buy Sterling Cape Brown with a baby pouch right in the horse?
40:30 --> 40:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Do the buckle lips?
40:30 --> 40:32 [SPEAKER_01]: I got some, I get some issues.
40:32 --> 40:34 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know about some safety things there.
40:34 --> 40:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Like maybe the baby should have stayed at the farmhouse with the other people's, but whatever.
40:41 --> 40:42 [SPEAKER_01]: We can, we can let it ride Nicole.
40:42 --> 40:45 [SPEAKER_01]: What's a, what's a number two item for you?
40:45 --> 41:08 [SPEAKER_06]: Again, I talked about it briefly, so I'll be quick, but I like the set design of the season, and especially when you think about the vibe in the bunker being like a call back to a simpler time, which is such a problematic statement, I keep thinking of it like who's version of simpler time is it?
41:08 --> 41:33 [SPEAKER_06]: And I think that when I was talking about like social ethics of like the architecture of these spaces that like sociology piece comes up a lot in the show like like social status and the inside the bunker that it just it's fishy like something it just I don't know it doesn't sit well with me it seems obviously very fabricated but it's meant to and then we're.
41:33 --> 41:38 [SPEAKER_06]: we're mirroring that with a very strong reality in the outside world.
41:39 --> 41:51 [SPEAKER_06]: And this Graceland piece, you know, just to go back to that point for a quick second, the thought that they named their daughter Presley, and then he ends up at Graceland, it's taken care of this baby.
41:51 --> 41:57 [SPEAKER_06]: When Annie says, as she's bleeding and dying, like it has to be you, it was always meant to be you.
41:58 --> 42:00 [SPEAKER_06]: That's a slow burn for me.
42:00 --> 42:02 [SPEAKER_06]: That was like a
42:02 --> 42:05 [SPEAKER_06]: intentionally put it in for that payoff moment.
42:05 --> 42:07 [SPEAKER_06]: And I think it really did work.
42:07 --> 42:18 [SPEAKER_06]: So yeah, like the constructivist social ethics of the inside spaces are very intriguing to me and I'm eager to see it all shatter.
42:18 --> 42:23 [SPEAKER_01]: And that they use they overly use.
42:23 --> 42:31 [SPEAKER_01]: I forget that the character's name is at Gabriela, I think, who is a psychiatrist.
42:31 --> 42:37 [SPEAKER_01]: The therapist, yeah, the psychologically profiled all the people that they were going to bring down into there.
42:37 --> 42:38 [SPEAKER_06]: It's engineered.
42:38 --> 42:39 [SPEAKER_06]: It's an engineered environment.
42:40 --> 42:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
42:41 --> 42:43 [SPEAKER_06]: Which is creepy at best.
42:44 --> 42:51 [SPEAKER_01]: And what's interesting is when we go to the mailman and that community, that's an engineered.
42:52 --> 42:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
42:53 --> 43:14 [SPEAKER_01]: and it's all, what's interesting, I was thinking about this, right, nerds, we got a mailman, we got engineer, we got to, we've got all of the, they're, they're doing something with the category of survival, the people that are surviving here, that they're not,
43:15 --> 43:38 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what they're doing yet, but they're specifically pulling out a guy who's a librarian but was an engineer, a guy who's a male man, a guy who's another engineer, right?
43:39 --> 43:42 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, people who would survive a catastrophe like this.
43:42 --> 43:43 [SPEAKER_06]: Well, Enus lied about it.
43:43 --> 43:44 [SPEAKER_06]: He's not an engineer.
43:44 --> 43:45 [SPEAKER_06]: He was a cable guy.
43:45 --> 43:47 [SPEAKER_06]: Spoiler.
43:47 --> 43:51 [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, that was the spoiler for the big spoiler for the second half.
43:51 --> 43:52 [SPEAKER_07]: Who sees the second half?
43:52 --> 43:54 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, that was a big spoiler for the second half.
43:54 --> 43:54 [SPEAKER_07]: Nothing else happened.
43:54 --> 43:55 [SPEAKER_07]: Nothing else happened.
43:55 --> 43:56 [SPEAKER_07]: It happened, yeah.
43:56 --> 44:00 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just getting podcasts with you anymore.
44:00 --> 44:10 [SPEAKER_02]: To Nicole's point about the engineering, the social construct of the bunker, it's so weird because we know there is a vast underbelly.
44:11 --> 44:16 [SPEAKER_02]: There is a literal underworld prison where people are working.
44:17 --> 44:19 [SPEAKER_02]: site on scene, right?
44:19 --> 44:34 [SPEAKER_02]: So people who are living with the artificial sun, never get to see the people who will never see the artificial sun, like there's more people that are making the sun, like broadcasting the sun, just really, really interesting dynamic day.
44:34 --> 44:41 [SPEAKER_01]: So is this like a snowpiercer metaphor thing, like an island is a giant sort of allegory for modern life right now?
44:41 --> 44:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Kind of.
44:43 --> 44:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
44:44 --> 44:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I didn't think about it until you just said it in the call.
44:47 --> 44:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, man.
44:48 --> 44:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Really?
44:49 --> 44:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
44:50 --> 44:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Right, and we see that in silo too.
44:52 --> 44:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Nicole, were you watching silo?
44:53 --> 44:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was saying that.
44:55 --> 44:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I go join you, we're into silo for sure.
44:59 --> 45:00 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, this is a very interesting.
45:00 --> 45:02 [SPEAKER_01]: It has silo-e vibes, doesn't it?
45:03 --> 45:07 [SPEAKER_01]: It's interesting to put the two shows in communication with each other to pair with them.
45:07 --> 45:11 [SPEAKER_01]: So, and oh, the other one fall out on Amazon.
45:11 --> 45:13 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, that's so different.
45:14 --> 45:15 [SPEAKER_01]: But you, it was an incredible character.
45:15 --> 45:19 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, and the world is like, again, that like call back to nostalgia.
45:19 --> 45:25 [SPEAKER_06]: What is the role being, like, caps, like in a bunker and you have to be in a 1950s vibe.
45:27 --> 45:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Because it,
45:29 --> 45:32 [SPEAKER_01]: on the surface that it was harmonious and worked.
45:33 --> 45:40 [SPEAKER_01]: But I think what we're not seeing is that people were on drugs and they were drinking and they were never blind and...
45:41 --> 45:42 [SPEAKER_01]: In their lives.
45:42 --> 45:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're not showing up in violence.
45:44 --> 45:46 [SPEAKER_07]: So it never won't use and it never worked.
45:46 --> 45:51 [SPEAKER_07]: No, it only works for a few people and that's why it's like...
45:51 --> 45:53 [SPEAKER_02]: It didn't even hurt the person.
45:53 --> 45:53 [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
45:53 --> 45:54 [SPEAKER_07]: This is like why?
45:54 --> 46:00 [SPEAKER_02]: So these folks that have making these bunkers and these wolves, you know, they weren't really dying.
46:00 --> 46:01 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
46:01 --> 46:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
46:01 --> 46:02 [SPEAKER_07]: Cool.
46:03 --> 46:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
46:04 --> 46:19 [SPEAKER_01]: So there's one thing that I noted that I wanted to flag really quick, there seems to be some weird connection between Link and Xavier, they both having the same flash or sort of sort of dreamy vibe thing.
46:19 --> 46:20 [SPEAKER_02]: Did you catch it?
46:20 --> 46:27 [SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was like this, I think there's some sort of like time thing going on.
46:27 --> 46:39 [SPEAKER_02]: And Ryan, I can't wait to really get into that to see if that's what is actually happening because that is going to be so freaking awesome.
46:40 --> 46:48 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm here for a time travel story, give me time travels, I wanted all, you know,
46:48 --> 47:07 [SPEAKER_07]: even if it's a you got a multidimensional door way to somewhere else give me that I don't care right you guys think it's time travel you think I don't know I'm travel I think it's like I love our psychic connection
47:07 --> 47:10 [SPEAKER_07]: I don't know no, like in the kiss, but there's something.
47:11 --> 47:11 [SPEAKER_01]: No, right?
47:11 --> 47:32 [SPEAKER_02]: They're hitting it something because he, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that
47:32 --> 47:35 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm thinking, did the EMP you do something?
47:35 --> 47:38 [SPEAKER_06]: I think it's really interesting though, because they both felt it.
47:39 --> 47:47 [SPEAKER_06]: And like I said, there's something bigger happening and I can't believe that there's only like three episodes left, like that doesn't make sense to me.
47:47 --> 47:50 [SPEAKER_02]: And then why would any say to him, it has to be you?
47:51 --> 47:52 [SPEAKER_06]: It has to be you.
47:52 --> 47:53 [SPEAKER_02]: It has to be you.
47:53 --> 47:53 [SPEAKER_02]: Why?
47:53 --> 47:54 [SPEAKER_02]: Why does it have to be?
47:54 --> 47:59 [SPEAKER_06]: I think that baby needs to stick with those lesbians in that.
48:00 --> 48:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, thanks so much.
48:02 --> 48:03 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, so I haven't seen that part yet.
48:03 --> 48:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, God.
48:05 --> 48:05 [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, sorry.
48:06 --> 48:06 [SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry.
48:06 --> 48:07 [SPEAKER_01]: You're five seconds.
48:07 --> 48:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Boy, I like that.
48:07 --> 48:09 [SPEAKER_01]: As long as there's some, yeah, I mean, that baby needs a home.
48:09 --> 48:12 [SPEAKER_01]: She does not need to be writing around with.
48:12 --> 48:13 [SPEAKER_07]: And he's baby.
48:13 --> 48:13 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
48:13 --> 48:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
48:14 --> 48:15 [SPEAKER_07]: He's so cute.
48:16 --> 48:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Xavier is home.
48:16 --> 48:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but like you can't.
48:18 --> 48:18 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.
48:19 --> 48:23 [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know, they're, well, it'll all be sorted out.
48:23 --> 48:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Right, right, they won't kill a baby, right?
48:25 --> 48:27 [SPEAKER_01]: They won't kill a baby, right?
48:27 --> 48:27 [SPEAKER_01]: They won't kill a baby, right?
48:28 --> 48:29 [SPEAKER_07]: No, oh God, no, that would be dead.
48:29 --> 48:30 [SPEAKER_01]: No, it's a baby.
48:30 --> 48:30 [SPEAKER_01]: No, it's a baby.
48:31 --> 48:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Jones, you got any, what, you got a number two?
48:34 --> 48:36 [SPEAKER_02]: No, my number two was that I don't trust anyone, right?
48:37 --> 48:38 [SPEAKER_02]: This is the right.
48:38 --> 48:38 [SPEAKER_02]: That was my number two.
48:38 --> 48:39 [SPEAKER_01]: You got a number three?
48:39 --> 48:41 [SPEAKER_02]: My number three is, it's Tantra.
48:42 --> 48:44 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, all right, I think it's Tantra.
48:44 --> 48:49 [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's Tantra, I think it's Tantra, I think it's Tantra, I think it's Tantra, I think it's Tantra, I think it's Tantra, I think
48:49 --> 49:05 [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, I've always meant to watch it, and I just never have, because I hear the mystery box, like it's the, it's the mystery box that you want, that every mystery box show that you've ever seen.
49:07 --> 49:29 [SPEAKER_01]: This is the one that does it right and solves the mystery for you and all you have to do is kick back and watch them twist the Rubik's cube and you don't even have to think or do anything Everything reveals but it is so compelling the characters are so interesting and once you start to make once you've watched enough of dark
49:28 --> 49:48 [SPEAKER_01]: that your sort of synaptic pattern matching thing is working and you're like, oh, this person and that person and this time frame and that time frame and this doorway and that doorway, it's suddenly then like clicks in your mind and then just then they wrap the whole story, basically in the few, you know.
49:48 --> 49:52 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, whatever, however many seasons it was, you had, yeah, I don't have to think.
49:52 --> 49:53 [SPEAKER_06]: That sounds great.
49:53 --> 49:54 [SPEAKER_06]: I don't want to wait too much thinking.
49:54 --> 49:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, thanks.
49:56 --> 49:56 [SPEAKER_01]: That's the thing with dark.
49:56 --> 49:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that is my biggest takeaway for dark.
49:59 --> 50:00 [SPEAKER_01]: Do not think just.
50:00 --> 50:03 [SPEAKER_07]: I think like all day, everything is boring.
50:05 --> 50:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, Nicole, do you have a final thought that you want to wrap up with?
50:09 --> 50:09 [SPEAKER_06]: I do.
50:10 --> 50:17 [SPEAKER_06]: And I need to honor my never mind the music roots and talk about the music on the show because it's so, so good.
50:17 --> 50:25 [SPEAKER_06]: Like I'm listening to Spotify sound like the Spotify playlist for the soundtrack and it's so, so good.
50:25 --> 50:28 [SPEAKER_06]: So I did some research for you guys because I know that you like that sort of thing.
50:29 --> 50:34 [SPEAKER_06]: Uh, the team that does the music supervision for the show is
50:34 --> 50:37 [SPEAKER_06]: They worked together for about 25 years.
50:37 --> 50:42 [SPEAKER_06]: They work a lot with Dan Folgleman, who's the creator of the show Paradise.
50:42 --> 51:10 [SPEAKER_06]: They've done a lot of other shows like community new girl, which is like fine, but not really on brand here, but most notably for me, they did this music supervision for Donnie Darko, which I think that when you look listen to that Alex like the cover of Mad World, that's a heavily prominent in Donning Darko, that's very similar vibe to a lot of the music in paradise and it's really, um,
51:11 --> 51:22 [SPEAKER_06]: strip down covers of really great classic rock songs that are like the songs are part of the narrative of the episode and then they do a needle drop for the credits that's like a strip down version of it.
51:23 --> 51:26 [SPEAKER_01]: I got a needle drop for you then I picked out already, put it on.
51:27 --> 51:35 [SPEAKER_06]: It's just so so good and for me that's what first drew me in to think that there was more to the show than I first thought.
51:35 --> 51:38 [SPEAKER_06]: I just like you I watched two episodes and then kind of backed away.
51:38 --> 51:44 [SPEAKER_06]: But once I started listening to the music, I was like, oh, this is very haunting and thoughtful and intentional.
51:45 --> 51:47 [SPEAKER_06]: And that was very intriguing for me.
51:48 --> 51:54 [SPEAKER_06]: So if nothing else, like just listening to that spot of live playlist is going to give you a good sense of what this show is.
51:55 --> 51:57 [SPEAKER_06]: And there's a lot of great hip hop on there.
51:57 --> 51:59 [SPEAKER_06]: Lots of great singer-songwriter stuff.
51:59 --> 52:00 [SPEAKER_06]: So really good soundtrack.
52:01 --> 52:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Nice.
52:01 --> 52:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Great.
52:02 --> 52:04 [SPEAKER_06]: That was my final thought.
52:04 --> 52:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Cool.
52:04 --> 52:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Great.
52:04 --> 52:05 [SPEAKER_01]: That's a really great shout out.
52:06 --> 52:20 [SPEAKER_01]: And the composer, or I don't know what his actual title is, he is the guy who made the original music for the show, Siddhartha.
52:20 --> 52:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
52:21 --> 52:23 [SPEAKER_06]: Did a bunch of other stuff, too?
52:23 --> 52:26 [SPEAKER_01]: Right, he's got a really long filmography.
52:26 --> 52:32 [SPEAKER_01]: And when you hear that haunting melody, then, no, no, no, no, that's him.
52:32 --> 52:33 [SPEAKER_01]: That's his original composition.
52:34 --> 52:36 [SPEAKER_01]: So, very cool.
52:36 --> 52:40 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, John, do anything else you want to wrap up for quick or um good.
52:41 --> 52:44 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm super excited to put a rest of this season.
52:45 --> 52:47 [SPEAKER_02]: Uh-huh.
52:47 --> 52:47 [SPEAKER_02]: Gary.
52:48 --> 52:50 [SPEAKER_02]: Hmm.
52:50 --> 52:51 [SPEAKER_02]: I knew it when I did.
52:52 --> 52:54 [SPEAKER_02]: I knew it suspicious.
52:55 --> 52:57 [SPEAKER_02]: As soon as I saw him, I was just like,
52:58 --> 53:15 [SPEAKER_01]: To get a mailman and a project manager, engineer guy who played two pivotal roles in the twisting and turning of this, sort of two people you wouldn't think of as the obvious mustache twirling types.
53:16 --> 53:20 [SPEAKER_02]: So that's in all he's must he is a must test twerler for me.
53:21 --> 53:24 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, and we're all like products to be environment.
53:25 --> 53:26 [SPEAKER_06]: We grew up in right.
53:27 --> 53:31 [SPEAKER_06]: You know, he's the past three years can't couldn't have been easy.
53:31 --> 53:37 [SPEAKER_06]: I'm giving Gary a little bit of grace, but I also think that
53:37 --> 53:38 [SPEAKER_06]: You need to watch the second half of you.
53:38 --> 54:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
54:03 --> 54:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Perfect.
54:04 --> 54:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Nicole, what's happening on never mind the music?
54:08 --> 54:10 [SPEAKER_06]: Well, we're on our, like I said at the jump.
54:10 --> 54:11 [SPEAKER_06]: We're on our spring breaks now.
54:11 --> 54:13 [SPEAKER_06]: So me, Mark and I are recording like crazy.
54:13 --> 54:16 [SPEAKER_06]: Trying to get you guys back up all year.
54:16 --> 54:17 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, we batch content.
54:17 --> 54:19 [SPEAKER_06]: So we just recorded a bunch of episodes yesterday.
54:19 --> 54:21 [SPEAKER_06]: We're from hell bag episode.
54:21 --> 54:23 [SPEAKER_06]: The Jon's featured on.
54:23 --> 54:24 [SPEAKER_06]: So we'll do another one.
54:24 --> 54:25 [SPEAKER_06]: So send us in your stuff.
54:26 --> 54:29 [SPEAKER_01]: No, I needed to get into this one because I had to do with an episode this time.
54:29 --> 54:30 [SPEAKER_06]: OK, we're happy to honor it.
54:31 --> 54:33 [SPEAKER_06]: Well, we'll take late work here.
54:33 --> 54:33 [SPEAKER_01]: OK. All right.
54:33 --> 54:34 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, I'm sorry.
54:36 --> 54:36 [SPEAKER_06]: I'm sorry.
54:36 --> 54:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Because I'm going to get back at Mark for something.
54:38 --> 54:42 [SPEAKER_06]: So we have a great night to Wayne episode that just came out today that we're recording on Tuesday, March 10th.
54:42 --> 54:43 [SPEAKER_06]: It just dropped this morning.
54:43 --> 54:47 [SPEAKER_06]: We recorded an episode about the killers when you were young yesterday.
54:47 --> 54:48 [SPEAKER_06]: It was really cool.
54:48 --> 54:50 [SPEAKER_06]: So we got a lot of stuff coming down the pipeline.
54:50 --> 54:53 [SPEAKER_06]: Check us out email us never music pod at gmail.com.
54:53 --> 54:54 [SPEAKER_06]: Hit us up on discord.
54:55 --> 54:57 [SPEAKER_06]: We love to, I love to drink wine and the app on discord.
54:57 --> 54:59 [SPEAKER_06]: So that's what you're getting.
55:00 --> 55:02 [SPEAKER_01]: And we got to get you over on the pit before.
55:02 --> 55:04 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, please.
55:04 --> 55:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's see that.
55:05 --> 55:15 [SPEAKER_01]: If there's a episode that comes up in this back half, ping me and then we'll pull you on one over the regular otherwise we can pull you in maybe for a season wrap or something.
55:15 --> 55:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's cool for you.
55:17 --> 55:28 [SPEAKER_01]: But if there's one that really grabs you that has like some topical stuff for you, because we definitely had a lot of social sociology psychology things sort of in there.
55:28 --> 55:32 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there's a whole thing with the the a man in the library.
55:32 --> 55:38 [SPEAKER_06]: Oh yeah, yeah, and the cancer lady, the hospice can't tell me.
55:38 --> 55:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's definitely interesting.
55:40 --> 55:41 [SPEAKER_06]: There's so much and such a great show.
55:42 --> 55:43 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it's a different day.
55:43 --> 55:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Jean, what do you and Alicia got cooking up?
55:46 --> 55:52 [SPEAKER_01]: We've got some more movies and shows coming up on Yeah, so we're going to be doing next week.
55:52 --> 55:59 [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to be recording 28, 28 years later,
55:59 --> 56:03 [SPEAKER_01]: And Daredevil's panel, he's just been busy with their Oscar compass, he's going to be out all the way up.
56:03 --> 56:06 [SPEAKER_01]: So we had to kick and go to the top of that.
56:06 --> 56:14 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, the Oscar bridge that she's been doing, which is amazing, burning and then it's going to, you know, I guess culminate this weekend, yeah.
56:14 --> 56:16 [SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, Sunday.
56:16 --> 56:16 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
56:17 --> 56:19 [SPEAKER_02]: So we'll do the bone temple.
56:19 --> 56:22 [SPEAKER_02]: Daredevil's coming right out.
56:22 --> 56:22 [SPEAKER_02]: OK.
56:22 --> 56:23 [SPEAKER_02]: So get it.
56:24 --> 56:26 [SPEAKER_02]: Because you're going to hook up with Luke on that one.
56:26 --> 56:30 [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to be with Luke on Daredevil and we're right and cool.
56:31 --> 56:33 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm volunteer and so.
56:34 --> 56:34 [SPEAKER_02]: Nice.
56:34 --> 56:34 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
56:34 --> 56:38 [SPEAKER_02]: Boys with us when we did 28 years later over the summer.
56:38 --> 56:38 [SPEAKER_02]: Perfect.
56:38 --> 56:39 [SPEAKER_02]: Perfect.
56:39 --> 56:40 [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, good stuff coming.
56:40 --> 56:41 [SPEAKER_02]: We got lanterns coming up.
56:42 --> 56:43 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh God.
56:43 --> 56:43 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
56:44 --> 56:45 [SPEAKER_02]: You've tried it for that?
56:45 --> 56:48 [SPEAKER_02]: It can be all the socks, can be it.
56:48 --> 56:48 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
56:48 --> 56:49 [SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no.
56:50 --> 56:52 [SPEAKER_02]: I can, I'm like, I'm not, I'm at a loss for words here.
56:53 --> 56:53 [SPEAKER_02]: This is.
56:53 --> 56:53 [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
56:54 --> 56:58 [SPEAKER_02]: It's really, you know, with one demand,
56:58 --> 57:04 [SPEAKER_02]: That's the best show that I've watched so far this year.
57:05 --> 57:17 [SPEAKER_02]: So with one demand and that dynamic duo, I'm hoping we get the same sort of, it may not be as good, but the same sort of dynamic duo in Green Latter.
57:17 --> 57:18 [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I'm excited for that.
57:18 --> 57:19 [SPEAKER_01]: That's good.
57:20 --> 57:23 [SPEAKER_01]: And then we're talking about some house of the dragon.
57:23 --> 57:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Also the dragon.
57:24 --> 57:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
57:25 --> 57:26 [SPEAKER_01]: You might be stepping in on that.
57:27 --> 57:27 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm down.
57:27 --> 57:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Cool.
57:28 --> 57:31 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're working it out because I'm going to be on vacation for part of that in June.
57:31 --> 57:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
57:32 --> 57:38 [SPEAKER_01]: And I know John has some feelings about the season sort of rat with it and stuff like that.
57:38 --> 57:40 [SPEAKER_01]: So, but I know Anthony and Steve are covering it as well.
57:41 --> 57:42 [SPEAKER_01]: So that's really going to be exciting as well.
57:43 --> 57:49 [SPEAKER_01]: And if anybody is not cut up with properly Howard definitely get over there.
57:49 --> 57:54 [SPEAKER_01]: And the thing about, I just wanted asterics with properly Howard for the movies that they're covering.
57:54 --> 57:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Don't listen it for the movie.
57:57 --> 57:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Like don't worry about having that scene in the movie.
57:59 --> 58:00 [SPEAKER_01]: Just listen it to hear these two guys talk.
58:01 --> 58:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Because they're hilarious.
58:02 --> 58:03 [SPEAKER_01]: They're just so much fun.
58:03 --> 58:04 [SPEAKER_01]: That is true.
58:05 --> 58:05 [SPEAKER_01]: That is true.
58:06 --> 58:11 [SPEAKER_01]: And they got their new season kicking off, and they just were talking about the Glen Powell remake of Running Man.
58:11 --> 58:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Running Man Steve has this hilarious swords and acre in personation.
58:17 --> 58:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Perfect.
58:17 --> 58:17 [SPEAKER_01]: So good.
58:19 --> 58:25 [SPEAKER_01]: And in radioactive rambling, just finished off their fallout coverage, speaking of fallout.
58:25 --> 58:28 [SPEAKER_01]: They just finally put out that I think their final episode over there.
58:28 --> 58:31 [SPEAKER_01]: And, uh, yeah, I think that's about it.
58:31 --> 58:33 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we've got still plenty of content coming out.
58:33 --> 58:39 [SPEAKER_01]: So stick around, give us a writing, a writing and a like, a like and a reading, something like that.
58:39 --> 58:42 [SPEAKER_01]: My mouth is broken because it's, uh, so late in the evening in a middle-long day.
58:42 --> 58:48 [SPEAKER_01]: So Nicole speaking of, um, fun needle drops in the show.
58:48 --> 58:52 [SPEAKER_01]: This is the needle drop that I picked out for sort of our outro music here.
59:05 --> 59:17 [SPEAKER_04]: way into the night and then you put your arms around me and we don't want to throw out and make you stay I think we were long ago, but does it seem to be anyone else?
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