David, John, Steve, and Anthony discuss Hard Salt Beef.
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00:19 --> 00:37 [SPEAKER_06]: Properly Howard fans, after we give our brief takes on episode two of the seven kingdoms, even when I talk about Batman and Robin, again, and discuss whether or not Robin is Batman Squire, and maybe some of the problems related to that relationship.
00:38 --> 00:47 [SPEAKER_06]: Make sure you're checking out everything that's happening over at the Lower Hounds,
00:47 --> 00:51 [SPEAKER_06]: But further ado, here is John, David, and Steve.
00:51 --> 00:54 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, we have to talk about the elephant trunk in the room.
00:55 --> 01:00 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we have to talk about the aqua-fresh pump, holy moly.
01:01 --> 01:07 [SPEAKER_06]: Is it possible that a night can die in obscurity with a hog like that?
01:07 --> 01:14 [SPEAKER_03]: That's the thing is that there's no like you're burying the lead every time you're trying to like like get somebody to vouch for this guy.
01:14 --> 01:18 [SPEAKER_04]: And honestly, I don't believe Dunk that he sired no children.
01:18 --> 01:20 [SPEAKER_04]: I, Padric has to be a descendant of this man, right?
01:21 --> 01:23 [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, I was gonna say hodor.
01:23 --> 01:30 [SPEAKER_02]: I think he's the father of Heron Hall.
01:31 --> 01:36 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean he, you're trying to tell me he's not a Targaryen because he's dragon.
01:37 --> 01:45 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh goodness, so I mean that's a choice to make.
01:46 --> 01:47 [SPEAKER_06]: Do not see that coming.
01:48 --> 01:51 [SPEAKER_03]: How did you not see it coming?
01:51 --> 01:52 [SPEAKER_04]: That's all I saw.
01:53 --> 02:03 [SPEAKER_04]: This was clearly a prosthetic penis, and clearly I'm pretty sure, I just want to say like, I think you're feeling more about yourself.
02:04 --> 02:04 [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
02:04 --> 02:10 [SPEAKER_04]: I just think that most of the time when we see on HPO penises, they are pretty usually prosthetic.
02:10 --> 02:23 [SPEAKER_04]: I just want to say there was a prop team that was just holding Dildo's all day, like, which how well home do we have to make this man?
02:25 --> 02:28 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, it was Jerry Rice, a circa like 87.
02:28 --> 02:32 [SPEAKER_06]: I'm kind of curious how he's armored.
02:32 --> 02:37 [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, how do you just think of the cod piece that you'd have to construct to him?
02:37 --> 02:39 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, you're saving a lot on lances.
02:40 --> 02:42 [SPEAKER_04]: Well, that.
02:42 --> 02:51 [SPEAKER_04]: I think that that dunk could get at least in other 50 stags for the metal because there's going to be so much extra metal around the crotch now.
02:52 --> 02:52 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
02:54 --> 02:57 [SPEAKER_05]: Is there anything else about this episode that was interesting?
02:57 --> 03:01 [SPEAKER_03]: I'll tell you right now, nobody that he was with had an instant take.
03:01 --> 03:03 [SPEAKER_03]: It was a taped away.
03:05 --> 03:06 [SPEAKER_03]: I think that's enough for play.
03:08 --> 03:10 [SPEAKER_03]: Dude, that was a five play.
03:12 --> 03:14 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I had to explosive diarrhea.
03:14 --> 03:15 [SPEAKER_02]: It was so much simpler back then.
03:17 --> 03:18 [SPEAKER_03]: It was a different time, man.
03:19 --> 03:20 [SPEAKER_05]: Can I ask you all now?
03:20 --> 03:22 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, I don't feel so insecure.
03:23 --> 03:24 [SPEAKER_04]: That's true.
03:24 --> 03:27 [SPEAKER_04]: And you know, it's for Ireland's idea like we should sleep naked every night.
03:28 --> 03:32 [SPEAKER_04]: We should sleep naked together every night because you have to know that I am daddy.
03:34 --> 03:36 [SPEAKER_06]: This took a very dark turn.
03:36 --> 03:39 [SPEAKER_04]: No, I'm saying, not that they're doing sex.
03:39 --> 03:42 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm saying he's swinging it around, making sure.
03:43 --> 03:44 [SPEAKER_04]: That's the way you're losing charge.
03:45 --> 03:48 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, you're saying his dunk had the first ever weighted blanket.
03:53 --> 04:06 [SPEAKER_06]: Uh, jeez, so I mean, clearly that was the most memorable part of this episode, is there anything else to talk about?
04:06 --> 04:07 [SPEAKER_04]: Can I black those questions?
04:08 --> 04:09 [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, please.
04:09 --> 04:21 [SPEAKER_04]: If you were going to do your WWE entrance like these jousters did, what fish or animal would you choose to take a bite out of it then?
04:22 --> 04:26 [SPEAKER_03]: fascinated to see the evolution of the t-shirt cannon and at least knowing where it started.
04:29 --> 04:30 [SPEAKER_06]: With with the fish.
04:31 --> 04:33 [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, goodness.
04:34 --> 04:36 [SPEAKER_06]: Our first taste of action in this.
04:36 --> 04:51 [SPEAKER_02]: I was curious because Steve was winging a little bit on your last Friday pod about it being slow, boring, and industry, uninteresting, and that was curious if Steve has a revised opinion of the show now.
04:52 --> 04:52 [SPEAKER_03]: I love this show.
04:54 --> 04:55 [SPEAKER_03]: This show has it all.
04:56 --> 05:01 [SPEAKER_03]: Giant hogs, biting the head off to fishes.
05:01 --> 05:07 [SPEAKER_03]: You got a little bald guys, which I relate to quite a bit being a little squeamish.
05:07 --> 05:09 [SPEAKER_03]: This is everything for me now.
05:09 --> 05:10 [SPEAKER_03]: I take it all back.
05:13 --> 05:14 [SPEAKER_06]: The show has redeemed itself.
05:15 --> 05:23 [SPEAKER_06]: So the first episode, bumpy on ramp, and now you feel all in, or are you just, uh, you're just impressed by sir and Irwin.
05:23 --> 05:25 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think you'll be able to get that whole thing in, honestly.
05:25 --> 05:31 [SPEAKER_02]: We've done.
05:32 --> 05:33 [SPEAKER_03]: No, you can't look.
05:33 --> 05:36 [SPEAKER_03]: We all know there are burritos that you hold and there are burritos that you've cut.
05:42 --> 05:45 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, good news, I was just getting out of everybody.
05:48 --> 05:54 [SPEAKER_03]: No, I know, just this episode was like, this got me.
05:54 --> 05:55 [SPEAKER_03]: This got me real good.
05:55 --> 06:01 [SPEAKER_03]: I was actually a little, I'll be honest, and I've been spending a lot of time on
06:02 --> 06:21 [SPEAKER_03]: Sir Arlin of Long Branch, but I I was a little concerned that like okay, so we got we had explosive diarrhea now We have just comically large hog like as this is this gonna be the new trope The rest of this the show really got me.
06:21 --> 06:28 [SPEAKER_03]: I just I was I was so in on I mean as I was saying I loved the dunk egg dynamic.
06:28 --> 06:32 [SPEAKER_03]: I I loved it in this even more
06:32 --> 06:36 [SPEAKER_03]: There was just some, again, amazing visuals.
06:36 --> 06:39 [SPEAKER_03]: I would love to talk about the sort of that.
06:41 --> 06:43 [SPEAKER_03]: John, you have a name for all of it.
06:43 --> 06:49 [SPEAKER_03]: It looks like you're looking through almost a periscope or an eye like why it creates the sort of vignette type.
06:52 --> 06:55 [SPEAKER_03]: Framing on the shots, like I don't know if that is just...
06:55 --> 06:56 [SPEAKER_04]: This feels like a David thing, not a John thing.
06:57 --> 06:59 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, okay, no David.
06:59 --> 07:00 [SPEAKER_03]: He's the visual guy.
07:01 --> 07:02 [SPEAKER_03]: I just make dick jokes.
07:04 --> 07:08 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, let's go back to John, let's maybe, let's talk about dick.
07:10 --> 07:13 [SPEAKER_04]: Let's just return to a more fowl and play time.
07:14 --> 07:28 [SPEAKER_06]: So I'll be honest, not a lot of happens, it feels very much like a set up episode, did enough happen in this episode to warrant, you know, 30 minutes of television.
07:29 --> 07:29 [SPEAKER_02]: I think so.
07:30 --> 07:36 [SPEAKER_02]: My case for that is we're really becoming, you know, he's kind of the sweet dumb kid.
07:36 --> 07:41 [SPEAKER_02]: Egg is is providing this great comic relief.
07:42 --> 07:43 [SPEAKER_02]: He's had to sell the horse.
07:43 --> 07:47 [SPEAKER_02]: He's appealing to the armor to, you know, give him some armor.
07:47 --> 07:58 [SPEAKER_02]: He makes his plea in front of aristocracy that is much, much, much higher than his station and he holds his own and he sort of
07:58 --> 07:59 [SPEAKER_02]: encounters.
08:00 --> 08:10 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think for me, when he sold the horse, that was sort of all of this thing of setting the emotional stakes so that when he does actually get into combat.
08:11 --> 08:17 [SPEAKER_02]: And oh, and then there's the, you know, the girl and the impossibly tall puppeteer.
08:19 --> 08:26 [SPEAKER_02]: So all of
08:27 --> 08:39 [SPEAKER_06]: The scene that really made it for me, and I feel like most of this episode was kind of forgettable, but the scene that I, on my head, I looked at it as alternate here.
08:39 --> 08:41 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, I really love this episode so much.
08:42 --> 08:46 [SPEAKER_03]: And Anthony's like, this show did not have to have it.
08:46 --> 08:54 [SPEAKER_06]: The scene that made it for me was the conversation about how the conversation with the public girl went.
08:54 --> 08:55 [SPEAKER_06]: Right.
08:55 --> 09:02 [SPEAKER_06]: So when egg, when egg and dunk are sort of debriefing like I don't I don't think I did very well in that conversation.
09:02 --> 09:13 [SPEAKER_06]: I feel like that is that is what this show has been missing and I feel like as long as that relationship gets pushed to the floor.
09:13 --> 09:15 [SPEAKER_06]: I think that this show will do very well.
09:17 --> 09:21 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, and that was my take and the last one was like I was sort of a.
09:22 --> 09:31 [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, I wasn't sure how it was going, but then when I was that last, uh, you know, bit under the tree, like, I mean, all right, I'm going to invest in this.
09:32 --> 09:51 [SPEAKER_03]: And so that actually launched me into the rest of everything that was going on and then when I get the elements where they're sitting there and Nate is like, oh, people used to call me stupid and
09:52 --> 09:58 [SPEAKER_03]: I love that, because I've been on both sides of that conversation.
09:58 --> 09:59 [SPEAKER_03]: Usually it's with me.
10:01 --> 10:01 [SPEAKER_04]: What were we talking about?
10:04 --> 10:06 [SPEAKER_04]: The Targaryens, I thought, were another really good addition.
10:06 --> 10:11 [SPEAKER_04]: This episode, although they do have super-cuts haircuts, and I don't love that.
10:13 --> 10:15 [SPEAKER_04]: Why is it that they had
10:15 --> 10:22 [SPEAKER_04]: you know, beautiful long hair in the house of the dragon era and in the game with ruins era, but this era, they were like, no, buzz cuts.
10:22 --> 10:24 [SPEAKER_04]: Have you followed Metallica's trajectory?
10:28 --> 10:32 [SPEAKER_03]: Metallica is the Targaryens, our rock.
10:33 --> 10:37 [SPEAKER_02]: And at some point for your credibility and just to keep your fans interested, you got to chop it off.
10:38 --> 10:38 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
10:38 --> 10:40 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, hey, this is going to change the whole dynamic.
10:41 --> 10:43 [SPEAKER_03]: Let's just see if we're how big it influences we are.
10:44 --> 10:47 [SPEAKER_02]: We've moved on, we've matured in our rock and roll phase.
10:48 --> 10:50 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, also he hair breaks off when you were just certain age.
10:50 --> 11:01 [SPEAKER_04]: Baylor, though, I thought was like, if I'm going to take a serious take on this and not go whole hog on this, Baylor was, I thought the highlight of the Targaryen's, right?
11:01 --> 11:03 [SPEAKER_04]: He, you know, was just a likable guy.
11:03 --> 11:05 [SPEAKER_04]: And that's who he should be based on the book.
11:05 --> 11:11 [SPEAKER_04]: Really like that, make, make, or make, R. I need a, I need a, I think we're here.
11:11 --> 11:13 [SPEAKER_06]: I think it doesn't matter.
11:13 --> 11:26 [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, well, make our, he was just enough of a dick, like he, you know, he just saw dunk as kind of a worm and kind of, you know, a Nat on the, that he's swatting away.
11:26 --> 11:30 [SPEAKER_04]: And I thought that that showed the general Targaryen attitude of this era.
11:31 --> 11:38 [SPEAKER_04]: And I like that Baylor was sort of the standout of, okay, I'm going to be a different type, kind of Targaryen.
11:38 --> 11:39 [SPEAKER_06]: It really is.
11:39 --> 11:42 [SPEAKER_06]: It really does give you an impression that
11:42 --> 11:45 [SPEAKER_06]: This guy is something different.
11:45 --> 11:50 [SPEAKER_06]: He's someone maybe we haven't met on this landscape yet.
11:50 --> 12:01 [SPEAKER_02]: the actor who's playing make our one, maybe Sam Sprell, who was our friend from the last season of Fargo.
12:01 --> 12:04 [SPEAKER_06]: Fargo old month.
12:04 --> 12:07 [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, really old month.
12:07 --> 12:09 [SPEAKER_06]: He was the supernatural hitman.
12:09 --> 12:09 [SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
12:10 --> 12:12 [SPEAKER_04]: That's so great.
12:12 --> 12:12 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he's great.
12:13 --> 12:14 [SPEAKER_04]: I love one.
12:14 --> 12:18 [SPEAKER_02]: I really like that both Baylor and Lionel
12:20 --> 12:22 [SPEAKER_02]: are cool guys, right?
12:22 --> 12:39 [SPEAKER_02]: That within this world of big name, big dig, egos, that there's a couple of guys who are kind of approachable and can kind of see through dunks naivete to that, you know, he's this honest guy.
12:39 --> 12:44 [SPEAKER_02]: And in a world that could be very bleak,
12:44 --> 13:09 [SPEAKER_02]: And we're getting the perspective of the small folk looking up to the aristocrats where most of our story has always been with the aristocrats here where we're down low looking up and it could be even bleaker than the aristocratic stories that we normally follow in the dragon.
13:10 --> 13:19 [SPEAKER_02]: And yet these two characters kind of give it not the levity, but there, there is kind of an honor, there are men of honor out there.
13:19 --> 13:35 [SPEAKER_02]: You think Lionel's a man of honor, he wasn't, he could have, he could have completely,
13:36 --> 13:36 [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
13:36 --> 13:46 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but I think that, you know, I would say that Lionel sees him as a toy, whereas Baylor is just trying to see him as a human as best as possible.
13:46 --> 13:48 [SPEAKER_04]: So I would distinguish them in that way.
13:49 --> 13:57 [SPEAKER_02]: I still think, I mean, Baylor, or sorry, Lionel in his own way, didn't treat him badly.
13:57 --> 14:00 [SPEAKER_06]: You know, it's interesting where you keep on getting the sets of two.
14:01 --> 14:07 [SPEAKER_06]: Remember, last time you had those two guys who were jazzed in with it, they were the Fossway Brothers.
14:07 --> 14:07 [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
14:08 --> 14:09 [SPEAKER_02]: And they were practice fighting.
14:09 --> 14:09 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
14:09 --> 14:09 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
14:09 --> 14:10 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
14:10 --> 14:11 [SPEAKER_06]: Steffen was kind of a deck.
14:13 --> 14:20 [SPEAKER_06]: This time we met the two nights of the King guard and Donald was actually a pretty good guy.
14:20 --> 14:21 [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
14:21 --> 14:22 [SPEAKER_02]: The crabbing guy.
14:22 --> 14:28 [SPEAKER_06]: And then we met the two Targaryen lords and one of them happened to be a pretty decent person.
14:29 --> 14:31 [SPEAKER_06]: He happens to have more power than his brother.
14:31 --> 14:44 [SPEAKER_06]: Uh, so that kind of changed the the tenor of the conversation, but we keep on getting these sets of two as if to say I, you know, this is a pretty simple show, but it's like which way do you want to go?
14:45 --> 14:50 [SPEAKER_06]: You've got a few examples here and you know, you could choose to be that guy or that guy.
14:50 --> 14:56 [SPEAKER_06]: And here we have this young up and coming night who's trying to figure out who he wants to be.
14:56 --> 15:02 [SPEAKER_06]: And I think that that's kind of how the show ends as he's deciding like, well, what kind of night am I going to be?
15:02 --> 15:20 [SPEAKER_02]: And maybe I can honor Ireland's legacy, you know, by showing all these guys that he wasn't completely forgettable because I like that because if as I send in on the voicemail for your Friday pod that this is part of the show is a meditation on
15:20 --> 15:32 [SPEAKER_02]: What is it to be a night and what do nights represent in society in this, you know, fictionalized society, uh, but, you know, quasi medieval, right in European medieval.
15:33 --> 15:47 [SPEAKER_02]: What is a night and what does it do for sociological, what sociological functions does a night take place and then like you say, if he's a young man trying to figure out what it is to be a night because he's only had this one mentor.
15:48 --> 15:54 [SPEAKER_02]: He's looking out and seeing all the sort of quote unquote big brothers and he could go this way or that way and I like that that story.
15:54 --> 16:00 [SPEAKER_06]: Even the story that the puppeteer tells him, Tenzel, two tall.
16:00 --> 16:02 [SPEAKER_06]: Every man is a knight and every man is a fool.
16:02 --> 16:04 [SPEAKER_06]: So there's there you go.
16:04 --> 16:05 [SPEAKER_06]: You've got your two options.
16:06 --> 16:06 [SPEAKER_06]: Right.
16:06 --> 16:17 [SPEAKER_06]: And of course, I think I think at the end of the day, we're going to realize things are a little bit more complicated than making, you know, the good versus bad choice.
16:17 --> 16:20 [SPEAKER_06]: And that's part of the story is like, well, maybe you're a little bit above.
16:22 --> 16:26 [SPEAKER_04]: And maybe you should just give up nighthood and get on to only fools.
16:30 --> 16:37 [SPEAKER_02]: I will say on the filmmaking thing really quick to pick up on Steve's point of view, it is really nice to be able to see everything.
16:37 --> 16:41 [SPEAKER_02]: and not be struggling to like make out details in the shadows.
16:41 --> 16:41 [SPEAKER_02]: It's bright.
16:42 --> 16:42 [SPEAKER_02]: It's well lit.
16:43 --> 16:44 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a change.
16:44 --> 16:51 [SPEAKER_02]: A tonal change that we're used to and I wonder if people are kind of still adjusting to to what they're making available here.
16:51 --> 17:00 [SPEAKER_02]: But I just really appreciate the simple color palette, just the brightly lit space that we can see everybody.
17:00 --> 17:02 [SPEAKER_02]: It's it's a
17:03 --> 17:10 [SPEAKER_03]: Have any of you gone to a major league sporting event, tailgating experience?
17:10 --> 17:12 [SPEAKER_02]: You're not recently by a long shot.
17:14 --> 17:16 [SPEAKER_03]: There's a lot of what was going on.
17:16 --> 17:25 [SPEAKER_03]: I just, it really felt like a captured that really well, which is that like, we're all getting ready for something and the thing that unifies it.
17:25 --> 17:30 [SPEAKER_03]: Even if we're not on the same team, we're all unified for the spectacle.
17:31 --> 17:34 [SPEAKER_03]: this sense of like, oh man, I'm so fired up.
17:34 --> 17:35 [SPEAKER_03]: I could get out there.
17:35 --> 17:36 [SPEAKER_03]: I could totally do this.
17:37 --> 18:00 [SPEAKER_03]: And it's just really, this, the direction of this particular episode really helped capture, which I was a little bit concerned about in terms of like reading and seeing how it would translate to the screen, which is like this, this sense of like excitement for the event.
18:01 --> 18:12 [SPEAKER_03]: aspect of this was like still that like just the the pageantry and the excitement of the the sporting event side of it, right?
18:12 --> 18:24 [SPEAKER_03]: And so we have this other sense of like the houses and what that means it must be a night and all that is all great, but it like to me the show really had to sell the show.
18:25 --> 18:28 [SPEAKER_03]: within the show and I thought it did a really good job.
18:28 --> 18:36 [SPEAKER_02]: And if they didn't give us a little bit of a taste of that at the end of this episode, we'd all be complaining about like, what's going on with the show?
18:36 --> 18:38 [SPEAKER_02]: What's the, what's the pacing here?
18:38 --> 18:41 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think it was really smart to give us that little taste.
18:42 --> 18:45 [SPEAKER_02]: And then to give dunk the reflection of
18:46 --> 18:51 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going out there, like I've wagered my whole existence right now.
18:51 --> 19:07 [SPEAKER_02]: I've put my reputation, people know my face, I've sold my horse, everything is contingent on me going out there and driving at freight train speeds, pointing a wooden stick at another guy who's doing the same to me.
19:08 --> 19:14 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, and the tug-of-war thing, right?
19:15 --> 19:27 [SPEAKER_03]: The timing is really something, especially out here where I'm living is because we're getting ready for the Super Bowl to be here in the Bay Area, so there's all these different football-ish events that are happening, right?
19:27 --> 19:44 [SPEAKER_03]: You've got the Pro Bowl, which is flag football, so it's the same kind of thing, but it's on a much lesser scale, that's going to cause less injury, right?
19:44 --> 19:47 [SPEAKER_03]: And so tug of war is like such a great example.
19:47 --> 19:52 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, oh, look, we've got some of the, you know, the players are in it and it's still kind of fun.
19:52 --> 20:00 [SPEAKER_03]: It's still kind of matters, but at the same time, it's the stakes are really low, but it's also like, it's a, this whole thing just feels like a massive networking event.
20:00 --> 20:11 [SPEAKER_03]: And I just, I loved the way it was all presented to set up sort of the more political and social ramifications of the whole thing.
20:11 --> 20:11 [SPEAKER_03]: I just thought it was great.
20:12 --> 20:20 [SPEAKER_02]: I mentioned last week the knife that we saw in the bar, and I wanted just to clarify something.
20:20 --> 20:25 [SPEAKER_02]: I know that that wasn't the cat's paw, and I just got confused in the moment about clarifying.
20:26 --> 20:33 [SPEAKER_02]: And I did a little bit more digging, put a message out on the reddits, that knife design is like demons' knife.
20:34 --> 20:35 [SPEAKER_02]: It's not the same knife.
20:36 --> 20:46 [SPEAKER_02]: But it has that weird little clam shell thing where the pommel is, and so it's like a Targaryen Coded design.
20:46 --> 20:51 [SPEAKER_03]: So that's not sure it's not it's not the knife that the end of the golden child.
20:54 --> 20:57 [SPEAKER_02]: Have you guys covered that or is that going to be on a future.
20:57 --> 21:00 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I love the idea that the golden child.
21:00 --> 21:03 [SPEAKER_03]: is in the same shared universe as Game of Thrones.
21:05 --> 21:07 [SPEAKER_06]: I think we did cover the Golden Child at one point.
21:07 --> 21:08 [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, we should do it.
21:08 --> 21:10 [SPEAKER_06]: Although, I don't remember much about it.
21:12 --> 21:22 [SPEAKER_06]: John, if people wanted to hear the deep dive of this, and they wanted to find the Lorhound's podcast where they do that, how would they do that?
21:22 --> 21:35 [SPEAKER_04]: you can go to theloorhounds.com, you can go to link-tree, slash the lorhounds, plenty of places, and, you know, subscribe to us on whatever podcast platform you have, just search the lorhounds.
21:36 --> 21:38 [SPEAKER_06]: And I will put a link to that in the show notes.
21:42 --> 21:44 [SPEAKER_03]: At least they're all farting, so that's cool.
21:45 --> 21:50 [SPEAKER_06]: At the very least, with all the stuff that's going on in the world the day, at least you have the comfort of
21:51 --> 21:56 [SPEAKER_06]: seven dogs, seven dogs, farting, and very close proximity.
21:56 --> 22:01 [SPEAKER_03]: It's great when they can sync up a little bit, you know, you get, you know, there's two different flavors going on.
22:02 --> 22:10 [SPEAKER_06]: So Steve recently Martin was talking about how he was influenced by his, you know, stories, literature about nighthood.
22:11 --> 22:17 [SPEAKER_06]: And he brought up a point that a lot of other
22:18 --> 22:47 [SPEAKER_06]: But it was interesting to hear him say because I never heard him say it before is that basically if you want to understand This ancient nightly literature the modern analog is a superhero And this makes a lot of sense to me and I've always thought that game of thrones was a shop for shot remake of how I did that is one thing that has crossed my mind But one thing that has occurred to me later in life is that
22:48 --> 23:17 [SPEAKER_06]: Batman really is kind of a modern iteration of nighthood, and, you know, everything, you know, down to the cape and the cow, and he's the dark knight, and he's a wealthy guy who, you know, trying to bring justice to an unjust city, and it's all very medieval coded, this Batman mythology, and it makes me think with Dunkin' Egg that basically we have almost like a Batman and Robin
23:17 --> 23:18 [SPEAKER_06]: I can see that.
23:19 --> 23:22 [SPEAKER_06]: So this got me going down our Robin rabbit hole.
23:22 --> 23:25 [SPEAKER_06]: I was never a comic book reader.
23:26 --> 23:33 [SPEAKER_06]: In fact, I could probably say, in all honesty, I don't know if I've ever read a Batman comic cover to cover.
23:34 --> 23:35 [SPEAKER_03]: You?
23:35 --> 23:44 [SPEAKER_03]: I have, and I think I've read a, I don't know if I've read the entirety of a graphic novel, but
23:45 --> 23:49 [SPEAKER_03]: My introduction to Batman was the 1960s television series.
23:49 --> 23:49 [SPEAKER_06]: Sure.
23:50 --> 23:52 [SPEAKER_06]: And that was live action with Spandex.
23:53 --> 23:54 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and it was goofy, right?
23:54 --> 24:02 [SPEAKER_03]: So I had associated Batman at an early age with sort of a silly quality, right?
24:02 --> 24:05 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, a penguin looking guy on a bright colored submarine.
24:05 --> 24:06 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, exactly.
24:07 --> 24:10 [SPEAKER_03]: Shark repellent in your bat utility belt.
24:13 --> 24:15 [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know if I watched a lot of that.
24:15 --> 24:25 [SPEAKER_06]: For me, uh, I think the first encounter that I had with the dynamic duo was probably Scooby-Doo.
24:26 --> 24:28 [SPEAKER_03]: We were a super friends fan.
24:30 --> 24:32 [SPEAKER_06]: I was a super friends fan.
24:32 --> 24:33 [SPEAKER_06]: That could have predated.
24:33 --> 24:42 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I still have a pillowcase cover that had, uh, it has the super friends on one side and the super
24:43 --> 24:44 [SPEAKER_03]: villains on the other side.
24:45 --> 24:50 [SPEAKER_03]: And it's, I don't know where it's at, not an measurement.
24:50 --> 24:53 [SPEAKER_06]: But this welcome to old man talk.
24:53 --> 24:53 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
24:53 --> 24:54 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
24:54 --> 24:54 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
24:54 --> 24:55 [SPEAKER_03]: That is really cool thing.
24:55 --> 24:56 [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe.
24:58 --> 25:00 [SPEAKER_03]: So you want to see it because I can't.
25:01 --> 25:02 [SPEAKER_05]: So in all of these.
25:02 --> 25:07 [SPEAKER_06]: So in all of these iterations that we've been talking about.
25:08 --> 25:19 [SPEAKER_06]: It's always the duo, it's always Batman and Robin, where they were talking about super friends or Scooby-Doo or the 1960s live action, it's always Batman and Robin.
25:20 --> 25:37 [SPEAKER_06]: Even, and I think that the mythology lives on in kind of in an archetype way, like recently with the warriors, I think Jimmy Butler and Buddy Hield, right, or sorry, are you in over who is Batman and who is Robin?
25:37 --> 25:42 [SPEAKER_06]: So it almost is a stand-in now for like who's the alpha male and who's the beta?
25:44 --> 25:49 [SPEAKER_06]: Right, so it's not like it doesn't exist in the mythology and yet
25:49 --> 25:54 [SPEAKER_06]: When was the last Robin we saw was team titans or something like that?
25:55 --> 25:55 [SPEAKER_06]: It's been a while.
25:56 --> 26:07 [SPEAKER_03]: Right, and Robin sort of interestingly, and so I don't want to the cartoons, but my understanding is that he kind of exists as part of a younger troop and maybe Batman isn't so much a part of it.
26:09 --> 26:11 [SPEAKER_03]: So even then, I don't know that we're getting the duo.
26:12 --> 26:12 [SPEAKER_03]: Sure.
26:12 --> 26:19 [SPEAKER_03]: So I think the last time we saw Batman and Robin,
26:19 --> 26:21 [SPEAKER_03]: Would that be the Clooney joint?
26:22 --> 26:23 [SPEAKER_03]: Clooney O'Donnell?
26:23 --> 26:28 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, well, because I guess we see Robin introduced in Batman forever, right?
26:28 --> 26:29 [SPEAKER_03]: So that's when.
26:29 --> 26:31 [SPEAKER_03]: So Kilmer's Batman.
26:31 --> 26:33 [SPEAKER_07]: Ridler and two face can make a pretty lethal combination.
26:34 --> 26:35 [SPEAKER_07]: Fick it, you could use a hand.
26:35 --> 26:37 [SPEAKER_00]: To against two our better odds.
26:38 --> 26:40 [SPEAKER_07]: We can't promise I won't kill Harvey.
26:41 --> 26:42 [SPEAKER_00]: A man's gonna go his own way.
26:42 --> 26:45 [SPEAKER_00]: A friend told me that.
26:46 --> 26:53 [SPEAKER_00]: That's just a friend.
26:53 --> 26:53 [SPEAKER_06]: A partner.
26:53 --> 26:56 [SPEAKER_06]: Those movies were something like that.
26:56 --> 27:02 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they were an interesting hybrid almost of the 60s show and what Tim Burton had done.
27:03 --> 27:04 [SPEAKER_06]: Clooney was the worst Batman, right?
27:04 --> 27:07 [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, let's just imagine that Affleck never existed.
27:07 --> 27:09 [SPEAKER_06]: Clooney was the worst.
27:09 --> 27:11 [SPEAKER_03]: Probably.
27:12 --> 27:24 [SPEAKER_03]: That's a little bit of the guilty pleasure, Batman and Robin, for me, it's so you, so you like, you like the cloney, I don't, I won't say it, I like it, I mean, it's, but it is a guilty pleasure.
27:24 --> 27:30 [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's entertaining, very can't be for sure.
27:30 --> 27:40 [SPEAKER_06]: Well, you got, okay, so you've got Arnold, you've got Uma, you've got Chris O'Donnell, did Chris O'Donnell kill Robin?
27:41 --> 27:44 [SPEAKER_06]: We didn't, I mean, I feel like he's unwatchable.
27:45 --> 27:45 [SPEAKER_06]: I feel like he's unwatchable.
27:45 --> 27:46 [SPEAKER_06]: He's pretty bad.
27:46 --> 27:47 [SPEAKER_06]: He's pretty bad.
27:47 --> 27:49 [SPEAKER_06]: So I guess the question is pretty rough.
27:49 --> 27:52 [SPEAKER_06]: Look, teenage superheroes are pretty popular.
27:52 --> 27:58 [SPEAKER_06]: Like Spider-Man is like maybe the most popular super, you know, or arguably in the conversation.
27:58 --> 28:06 [SPEAKER_06]: There's no reason why a Robin a young former acrobat paired with Batman couldn't work.
28:06 --> 28:13 [SPEAKER_06]: So, but for whatever reason, it's been 30 years and no one's tried Robin again after O'Donnell.
28:13 --> 28:16 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, it's the world you create, right?
28:16 --> 28:20 [SPEAKER_03]: And so this is, I think, one of the issues we've discussed with Batman as it's progressed.
28:22 --> 28:29 [SPEAKER_03]: When you make the effort to ground Batman as a feasible option in this world.
28:29 --> 28:33 [SPEAKER_03]: You got to make the suit make sense.
28:33 --> 28:36 [SPEAKER_03]: You got to, it has to be funnier than just what you're saying.
28:36 --> 28:45 [SPEAKER_06]: Is that one cape crusader is hyper realistic, but you add a boy wonder next to them and all of a sudden you've jumped the shark?
28:47 --> 28:59 [SPEAKER_03]: No, you add a young man with, that's just hanging out with this single guy and he's in charge of him and they dress up.
29:00 --> 29:02 [SPEAKER_03]: you went to a, you know, you're like, okay, what are we saying?
29:03 --> 29:09 [SPEAKER_06]: So what you're saying is it wasn't Chris O'Donnell, so it was a Catholic church is fault.
29:09 --> 29:10 [SPEAKER_03]: It's always has been.
29:10 --> 29:22 [SPEAKER_03]: I think, yeah, so I mean, if you if you choose to ground it in reality and try to make it modern, I guess, and because the thing is, is it, I don't have enough knowledge.
29:22 --> 29:34 [SPEAKER_03]: of what life was like when the Batman comics were being created, like was it typical for, you know, single, billionaires to just have young wards or what happened to the ward.
29:35 --> 29:40 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, yeah, are we still warding in other states that maybe is just I'm just not familiar with here.
29:40 --> 29:41 [SPEAKER_03]: No, I are the wards.
29:42 --> 29:50 [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, I think another way to say this is that a lot of superhero movies are for children.
29:50 --> 30:07 [SPEAKER_06]: And yet, it's almost like Batman is exclusively for Middle-aged men now, and it feels a little bit like, like, back in 1940 when they first introduced Robin, I wouldn't down rabbit hole on this.
30:08 --> 30:14 [SPEAKER_06]: The idea was, we want to attract more young readers.
30:15 --> 30:26 [SPEAKER_06]: And this sort of detective-styled vigilante is interesting, but boy, you give them a boy-wonder sidekick.
30:27 --> 30:32 [SPEAKER_06]: And we're gonna really grab those young readers and it worked.
30:33 --> 30:37 [SPEAKER_06]: Batman Rubin became a very lucrative comic book.
30:37 --> 30:41 [SPEAKER_06]: And yet now, it's like, we almost want Batman to be arrayed it.
30:43 --> 30:44 [SPEAKER_06]: You know, right.
30:44 --> 30:46 [SPEAKER_06]: So we want Batman to be gritty.
30:46 --> 30:48 [SPEAKER_06]: We won't want a boy.
30:48 --> 30:50 [SPEAKER_06]: We don't want a boy and green spandex.
30:51 --> 30:51 [SPEAKER_06]: It's not gonna.
30:52 --> 30:53 [SPEAKER_03]: No, it complicates it, right?
30:53 --> 31:02 [SPEAKER_03]: Because Batman, if you create Batman as the sort of rogue loner, having a little sidekick, sort of,
31:02 --> 31:03 [SPEAKER_03]: just undercuts that reality.
31:03 --> 31:11 [SPEAKER_03]: So how do you do that in a, how can you have a brooding vengeance focused Batman and a kid?
31:11 --> 31:13 [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
31:13 --> 31:16 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it just, it doesn't quite work.
31:16 --> 31:17 [SPEAKER_03]: So I think you have to revisit.
31:18 --> 31:19 [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, they made it work.
31:19 --> 31:20 [SPEAKER_03]: We have to revisit the relationship.
31:20 --> 31:22 [SPEAKER_06]: They made it work with Tony Stark and Spider-Man.
31:23 --> 31:24 [SPEAKER_06]: So it can be done.
31:24 --> 31:25 [SPEAKER_06]: It can be done.
31:25 --> 31:27 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Spider-Man did not live.
31:28 --> 31:34 [SPEAKER_03]: Peter Parker was not adopted as a teen by Tony Stark.
31:34 --> 31:36 [SPEAKER_03]: I think that would have been a little weird.
31:36 --> 31:45 [SPEAKER_06]: So another connection with the medieval period is that Robin, the name Robin, was a conscious homage to Robin Hood.
31:46 --> 32:02 [SPEAKER_06]: And some of the costume of Robin, which is notably green, you know, green and yellow, but a lot of green in there is a little wink and a nod to the Robin hood comic books of the 1930s.
32:02 --> 32:04 [SPEAKER_06]: So it's almost like you have a square.
32:04 --> 32:07 [SPEAKER_06]: You've got the dark night and you've got his square.
32:08 --> 32:09 [SPEAKER_06]: So there you go.
32:09 --> 32:13 [SPEAKER_06]: There's that's kind of like a vigilante ward relationship for you.
32:13 --> 32:14 [SPEAKER_06]: maybe we bring those back.
32:15 --> 32:16 [SPEAKER_06]: Maybe the problem is us.
32:17 --> 32:18 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, we're the problem.
32:19 --> 32:20 [SPEAKER_06]: Maybe Batman's not the weird one.
32:22 --> 32:25 [SPEAKER_06]: Maybe we need to have more words in our lives.
32:25 --> 32:25 [SPEAKER_03]: Sure.
32:26 --> 32:26 [SPEAKER_03]: Sure.
32:26 --> 32:27 [SPEAKER_03]: We need to have more.
32:27 --> 32:40 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I think it would be as a society if we found out that Jeff Bezos decided and introduced us to a squire, we wouldn't think that was weird.
32:41 --> 32:44 [SPEAKER_03]: Larry Ellison is like, hi, this is my new boy.
32:44 --> 32:45 [SPEAKER_03]: He helps me.
32:46 --> 32:47 [SPEAKER_03]: He lives with me.
32:47 --> 32:48 [SPEAKER_06]: He lives with me.
32:48 --> 32:49 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
32:50 --> 32:53 [SPEAKER_06]: He's a teenager who dresses in underruse.
32:54 --> 32:55 [SPEAKER_06]: He was cape.
32:55 --> 33:02 [SPEAKER_06]: The other thing about the early robbing comics is that he was bare-legged, like his suit was bare-legged.
33:02 --> 33:03 [SPEAKER_03]: That seems like a problem.
33:03 --> 33:06 [SPEAKER_03]: So I think, I think you answer your question.
33:07 --> 33:11 [SPEAKER_06]: Why, why don't we see Rob, Robin has a lot of problems.
33:12 --> 33:16 [SPEAKER_06]: And just the idea of bringing in Robin has a lot of problems.
33:17 --> 33:22 [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know if it necessarily needs, I think it could work.
33:22 --> 33:24 [SPEAKER_06]: I think he could make it work somehow.
33:25 --> 33:29 [SPEAKER_06]: I don't think that there is any intention of Matt Reeves to make it work.
33:29 --> 33:32 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, and I think it's kind of like read the room.
33:33 --> 33:36 [SPEAKER_03]: is the audience clamoring for Robin, you know what I mean?
33:36 --> 33:40 [SPEAKER_03]: Or are we sitting there going, well, if there's no Robin, I'm not in, I don't think so, right?
33:41 --> 33:49 [SPEAKER_03]: And I think there's an interesting question about what Matt Reeves is gonna do with the Batman world because it is so grounded in reality.
33:51 --> 33:53 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, it feels like it sort of limits your villains.
33:54 --> 33:54 [SPEAKER_03]: Potentially.
33:55 --> 33:58 [SPEAKER_06]: They've got a Kielgin plane, the Joker, right?
33:58 --> 33:59 [SPEAKER_06]: We knew that.
33:59 --> 34:05 [SPEAKER_06]: and bringing it to Sebastian Stan, we don't know what rule he's going to play, the brand scarjo.
34:06 --> 34:09 [SPEAKER_06]: So that's an interesting choice.
34:09 --> 34:15 [SPEAKER_06]: It does feel like you're expanding the various villainy.
34:14 --> 34:30 [SPEAKER_06]: You know, you begin it with a sort of like, almost a true detective situation where you've got a serial killer and you've got a guy who is a little bit off, but it's a great detective, all right.
34:30 --> 34:31 [SPEAKER_06]: So there's your premise.
34:32 --> 34:40 [SPEAKER_06]: But as soon as you start expanding and we found this with the Keaton Batman, almost every Batman iteration has had this issue.
34:40 --> 35:08 [SPEAKER_06]: As soon as you have multiple costumed villains really takes a toll on the realism of the issue and then at that point you're like, yeah, but this is a comic book and then the question is, well, why didn't then why didn't you make it feel like a comic book from the beginning so I'm not sure that's where I would argue that I don't feel like Burton's Batman ran into that problem right because the Joker comes onto the scene and he's got helicopters that are purple.
35:08 --> 35:11 [SPEAKER_03]: He's got cars that are green and purple.
35:11 --> 35:13 [SPEAKER_03]: He's got logos on jackets.
35:14 --> 35:16 [SPEAKER_06]: Well, he's an art lover.
35:16 --> 35:20 [SPEAKER_03]: But the point being is like, they're like, he loves visual art.
35:20 --> 35:24 [SPEAKER_03]: There's a world where a guy in a bad suit exists also this.
35:25 --> 35:36 [SPEAKER_03]: And then so by that time, when you introduce the penguin and catwoman, you're like, yeah, he writes around a duck by wouldn't he?
35:38 --> 35:54 [SPEAKER_06]: Alright, so last week we played a game and my homework was to bring in a particular phrase into a lecture and your homework was to bring a particular phrase into a comedy set.
35:55 --> 36:02 [SPEAKER_06]: Now my lecture was pre-recorded, so my audio was pretty good, I'll just give people a taste of it.
36:03 --> 36:05 [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, that's you, sorry.
36:05 --> 36:06 [SPEAKER_06]: I think you got some good laughs.
36:07 --> 36:11 [SPEAKER_06]: Here we go, this is my introduction of the word pork chop into my lecture.
36:11 --> 36:13 [SPEAKER_06]: Now some people really love this theory.
36:14 --> 36:20 [SPEAKER_06]: These scholars are like, that is one spicy pork chop of a theory, I'm gonna eat the whole thing.
36:21 --> 36:24 [SPEAKER_06]: And others are like, I might take small bites out of this theory.
36:25 --> 36:27 [SPEAKER_06]: I use pork chop as a metaphor.
36:27 --> 36:31 [SPEAKER_06]: I'm sure that itself that was my solution to the issue.
36:32 --> 36:33 [SPEAKER_06]: Now, your audio was not great.
36:35 --> 36:45 [SPEAKER_06]: Now, but I'm going to play this because you can hear it and then this is proof that you can hear that you are using leaf phrase molded plastic seeds.
36:52 --> 37:00 [SPEAKER_03]: So I could make out the phrase.
37:00 --> 37:01 [SPEAKER_06]: They found it funny.
37:02 --> 37:03 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I don't know why.
37:03 --> 37:06 [SPEAKER_06]: But you're going to have to give us some context here.
37:06 --> 37:09 [SPEAKER_06]: Like what was the joke that preceded it?
37:09 --> 37:10 [SPEAKER_06]: How why did this?
37:11 --> 37:12 [SPEAKER_06]: Why was this phrase appropriate?
37:13 --> 37:14 [SPEAKER_06]: And why did this?
37:14 --> 37:16 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know that it was appropriate.
37:16 --> 37:18 [SPEAKER_03]: It had to go somewhere.
37:18 --> 37:23 [SPEAKER_03]: because I was going to make reference to the seats they were sitting and but they were not molded nor plastic so.
37:23 --> 37:25 [SPEAKER_06]: So give us some context here.
37:25 --> 37:26 [SPEAKER_06]: So you were.
37:26 --> 37:39 [SPEAKER_03]: So I was talking about, I was talking about the science behind the impossible burger and just talking about how it's engineered and there's some jokes about that.
37:39 --> 37:41 [SPEAKER_03]: And then I was critiquing how I felt the taste.
37:41 --> 37:45 [SPEAKER_03]: And I said, it tastes like molded plastic seats that you would sit on.
37:45 --> 37:46 [SPEAKER_03]: Great school.
37:47 --> 37:53 [SPEAKER_03]: And they like the joke enough before that that I think anything I had set up that would have gotten a lot.
37:53 --> 37:54 [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, it was a tag.
37:54 --> 38:02 [SPEAKER_06]: It was sort of a non-secretor of a tag, but it worked because you were still writing the wave of the previous joke.
38:02 --> 38:02 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
38:03 --> 38:04 [SPEAKER_06]: That's really fascinating to me.
38:04 --> 38:09 [SPEAKER_03]: I will say I didn't love the exercise because I ended up forgetting a bit.
38:09 --> 38:13 [SPEAKER_03]: I wanted to do because I had in my mind, oh, I gotta get these phrases in here somewhere.
38:13 --> 38:14 [SPEAKER_03]: And like, oh, did I say it?
38:15 --> 38:16 [SPEAKER_03]: Did I not say it?
38:18 --> 38:19 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
38:19 --> 38:21 [SPEAKER_06]: So this is fascinating to me.
38:22 --> 38:24 [SPEAKER_06]: Just listening to that little clip.
38:25 --> 38:26 [SPEAKER_06]: It wasn't just like rock is laughter.
38:26 --> 38:29 [SPEAKER_06]: Like you got a smattering of applause.
38:30 --> 38:30 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
38:30 --> 38:39 [SPEAKER_06]: Which that's, do you view a little bit of applause like that as like, um, like, how do you view that as a comic?
38:39 --> 38:41 [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, that's that's the good stuff right there.
38:42 --> 38:42 [SPEAKER_06]: That's good.
38:42 --> 39:04 [SPEAKER_06]: That's good because I sometimes I will here like someone try to virtue signal like Someone just kind of, oh yeah, say something that sort of aligns with the political the political reality of the room And you'll get not a laugh, but a pause And I always view that as kind of like, hmm, what are we doing here?
39:04 --> 39:07 [SPEAKER_06]: Uh, but this is, this was different.
39:07 --> 39:08 [SPEAKER_06]: This was like, this is so funny.
39:08 --> 39:10 [SPEAKER_06]: I'm going to applaud.
39:11 --> 39:19 [SPEAKER_03]: It's like I'm, it's an, it's an interesting reaction because it's like I'm done laughing, but I'm so I really liked what you did the laugh.
39:19 --> 39:23 [SPEAKER_06]: Like, I laughed because I'm, I like there's so much I'm going to play patty cake.
39:24 --> 39:29 [SPEAKER_03]: If I, if I clap, I'm saying, you know, like that was good, like I'm telling you it was good.
39:30 --> 39:39 [SPEAKER_03]: after I already indicated it because of the laughter, which is involuntary, but like I'm letting you know that I believe that was a good, well, I don't have this as so funny.
39:39 --> 39:41 [SPEAKER_06]: I want to make noise in another way.
39:42 --> 39:44 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, Paddy K. Kansas is what we're going for.
39:45 --> 39:52 [SPEAKER_06]: So just to tie a bow on this, you had three phrases, you had to incorporate into your standups that you did incorporate all three.
39:52 --> 39:56 [SPEAKER_06]: I've only given evidence of one, but you did send me all three.
39:56 --> 40:02 [SPEAKER_06]: And I had two, I had, I'm a machine and pork chop.
40:02 --> 40:06 [SPEAKER_06]: And I was able to get them both into my lecture.
40:07 --> 40:10 [SPEAKER_06]: So your pork chop lives on in perpetuity.
40:10 --> 40:11 [SPEAKER_06]: Pork chop will live on.
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