Oscars 2024 Wrap-Up

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[00:00:29] Welcome to The Lorehounds. This is our Oscar wrap up on your host David

[00:00:54] And I'm Alicia, self-crowned 2024 Queen of Oscar Predictions

[00:00:58] Did you win?

[00:01:00] I mean I don't know if it's been tallied up yet but I have to say we'll get into it

[00:01:05] but this was a particularly predictable year

[00:01:09] Oh okay very easy you will do well yeah

[00:01:12] Very good If you missed it go back and check out our three part

[00:01:16] Oscar prep series to hear all of our thoughts going into the Oscars ceremony

[00:01:20] plus the passion picks and insights of a bunch of members of the Lorehounds community

[00:01:25] and beyond special thanks to Jean last week for filling in I'm doing well thanks everybody

[00:01:31] And it's good to be back And today we're looking back on the ceremony

[00:01:35] which took place last night as we're recording and what were our favorite moments

[00:01:39] and biggest surprises And then now that we've both watched all

[00:01:43] ten best picture nominees will be counting down our own rankings of these films

[00:01:48] Before taking a quick look at some of the movies you might want to keep your eyes on

[00:01:53] ahead of next year's Oscars death race

[00:01:56] We also want to hear your thoughts

[00:01:58] What did you think of this year's ceremony and winners

[00:02:01] And what films are you already eyeing for next year's nominations

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[00:03:09] Well, Alicia, how's your sleep cycle? I think it's all

[00:03:14] Because you're in a far different time zone than the rest of us for yeah

[00:03:17] Well, the Oscars were at least two hours earlier for me this year

[00:03:20] They normally started to who I am for me in this year

[00:03:22] They started at midnight because you guys changed the clocks and because they started now earlier exactly

[00:03:28] We had a double whammy. I will say

[00:03:31] You know, I'm not a you know in the past

[00:03:32] I think I'm I'm going to be watching a lot more Oscars going in the future now that we've got this going

[00:03:37] Because I think this has been a lot of fun

[00:03:38] But in the past, you know, it was like hit or miss Oscars and you know when you would stay up

[00:03:42] And you could just be holding on for that last best picture, you know reveal

[00:03:48] And it's like 1145 1130 and you're like

[00:03:51] I just want to go to bed. Can you guys get through this please

[00:03:55] And I have to say last night was great. I loved the earlier start time

[00:03:58] It just it just had a nice pace and and cruised right on through

[00:04:02] It felt really good. What did you what did you think about the last night's ceremony?

[00:04:07] Overall, it was really really strong ceremony. It wasn't

[00:04:10] It wasn't an exciting ceremony in terms of the surprises because like I said it was very predictable

[00:04:15] I got there 23 categories. I correctly predicted 21 of them and the two that I didn't

[00:04:21] Correctly predict which were animated shorts

[00:04:24] I

[00:04:25] Just hopefully I really wanted 95 senses to win and then the prediction was war is over

[00:04:30] But it just seemed like such a cynical prediction because it has name Sean Lenin on it

[00:04:34] But nobody thinks it's that good

[00:04:37] Right, right. Okay, and then original screenplay

[00:04:40] Yeah, I just really wanted past lives to win so I predicted it but

[00:04:43] Anatomy was a strong contender always and it is a strong win

[00:04:47] I felt the overall like you said it was there was no there were no huge surprises

[00:04:53] And there certainly were no physical confrontation on stage or you know any of the other kind of craziness like that

[00:05:00] But I think I just really appreciated the fact that it it cruised along. It had a lot of

[00:05:06] fun upbeat moments

[00:05:09] None of the jokes really bombed that badly and

[00:05:13] They just got through the ceremonies and they got through the work that they they needed to do

[00:05:17] So I was I was pretty pleased with the the overall event

[00:05:22] I think I really liked to fact that divine joys joke about her publicist like everybody started picking up on that

[00:05:29] And that became like this running gag to the whole evening. That was really sweet

[00:05:33] And so it felt like it wasn't just a cookie cutter event, but there was um

[00:05:37] There was a little bit of yeah

[00:05:39] You know and people are playing around and having fun with it and stuff

[00:05:41] So yeah in the stage looked beautiful last night

[00:05:44] I really liked the way that they did all the visual production and everything

[00:05:48] It yeah, it was good

[00:05:49] It just felt like the solid a solid win for the Oscars and for the movie industry

[00:05:55] Yeah, yeah, I just say uh, so I talked to my mom always watching this still and uh

[00:06:00] She said she told me today the two moments that she's watched three times each are where um

[00:06:05] Emma stones acceptance speech and I'm just can

[00:06:09] Okay, that's right

[00:06:11] But that was like a shortened version of the song right that wasn't the full

[00:06:14] No, it was it was a lot of it though

[00:06:16] But they they got all the major you know beats in the bridge and all that

[00:06:20] I just felt like oh I wanted more of that because it's it is such a

[00:06:23] Rising ballad is just such a great yeah fun up beat song in so many ways

[00:06:29] It was also funny because I joked to Jean and you know part three of this series

[00:06:34] I was like oh, I hope seemingly shows up dancing

[00:06:36] And he was there and not only him shooty got what it was there and also kingsley benedir was there like

[00:06:42] Yeah, that was very cool. Was there

[00:06:44] Right

[00:06:45] That was wild that was really wild

[00:06:47] Yeah, it just seemed and then I don't know the the john cina bit where he was naked on stage

[00:06:53] I I don't know maybe you

[00:06:55] What you thought about that but yeah the fact that he was naked

[00:06:59] As I understand it he was fully naked and that he did that probably with like a little string

[00:07:03] But yeah, yeah, you know something some sort of modesty curtain there

[00:07:07] But you know there was a picture that I posted in our discord we actually had a lot of fun last night because we

[00:07:12] Last minute we didn't advertise this and I think we'll talk about this more when we get to

[00:07:17] The towards the end of the podcast. We'll talk about our plans for next year

[00:07:21] But we decided last minute. Oh, let's head

[00:07:23] Let's set up a little channel in the discord and folks who are watching live

[00:07:26] We can we can chat real time

[00:07:28] And I posted a screenshot from

[00:07:30] Twitter of somebody in the balcony who took a picture

[00:07:33] From the side of him standing on stage and he looked like fully naked so

[00:07:39] It was yeah, I mean there were very few bits this year and they actually I appreciate that

[00:07:46] Yeah, well it did shorten the runtime

[00:07:47] But that was that was the one bit and that went over well you know like yeah

[00:07:51] It's always going to be a mixed bag where you know some of the introductions were really good and some of them were like

[00:07:58] Moving along right

[00:08:00] I know I like a little bit of humor in this this is one that landed

[00:08:04] I was gonna ask would you think of Kimmel's hosting it was fine. It was fine

[00:08:07] You know there was a it he did the job. He did it without embarrassing himself or us

[00:08:13] And I kept it you know everything moved along the jokes were funny

[00:08:17] The real-time Donald trump joke was was funny and I didn't realize that that was real

[00:08:24] At first I was like oh is this some sort of bit what's going on?

[00:08:26] And then I saw later that was he was really responding to a real-time tweet and so

[00:08:31] Again, and I don't want to get into that side of the politics of things

[00:08:34] But the fact that people were in the show

[00:08:38] picking up like devised jokes or any of the other jokes that there was a

[00:08:42] liveliness to it and awareness of itself and that people were bringing to that awareness

[00:08:48] And real-time reaction into the show

[00:08:52] makes the show feel

[00:08:54] More dynamic in a live rather than just some cookie cutter thing where we're just marching forward

[00:08:59] And so I did appreciate that yeah absolutely who's the guy who did the

[00:09:04] Long little bit about field of dreams like narrating them

[00:09:08] Yeah, John Delaney yeah

[00:09:10] He did a really good job and and I heard some chatter that people were sort of trying to push him forward as a possible future host

[00:09:17] Yeah, absolutely

[00:09:18] I think yeah he nailed it and I guess he's I don't know that much about him

[00:09:24] I guess he yeah

[00:09:25] I don't watch his show or listen to his podcaster sorry

[00:09:28] Fans of his I'm not even sure exactly what he's famous for

[00:09:32] But he impressed me in that moment. Yeah, it was it was pretty good

[00:09:36] I think a couple of the other big highlight moments for us who was watching with

[00:09:41] With my wife and then our daughter was in and out she was not as interested

[00:09:45] She's not a big movie person

[00:09:47] But we wanted her to see to see a little bit and she happened to catch

[00:09:51] When divine joy was giving her acceptance speech when she was coming down

[00:09:54] And she we were admiring her dress and all that kind of stuff

[00:09:58] But it really her

[00:10:00] Acceptance speech was a great way to start the evening off

[00:10:04] And I'm really glad that my daughter got to see it because of what she was saying

[00:10:09] About not trying to be different just being herself and

[00:10:13] About this idea of being seen and and being somebody who has a non-traditional Hollywood body type right that she's not a

[00:10:21] Right

[00:10:23] She's not a slim person who's you know who looks in in a

[00:10:28] Old old traditional way of glamorous

[00:10:32] And so I was just really glad for her for my daughter to be able to see that and part

[00:10:37] Participate in that part of that conversation

[00:10:40] And to see that you know Hollywood isn't just this cookie cutter again a cookie cutter place. It's it's actually starting to

[00:10:49] Look and accept different

[00:10:51] All kinds of different perspectives and stories. I thought the drums the drumming circle was really great that they had

[00:10:58] Which was part of the the original song for

[00:11:02] Yeah, it's it's for the killers of the flower moon. Yeah, it's one of the nominated songs. That's why it was there

[00:11:07] Yeah, but they did nominate the academy nominated that song so yeah

[00:11:11] And they and to have that live performance in that way again was a very cool thing

[00:11:15] So what are there big moments were hit for you?

[00:11:19] I really enjoyed the actor presentations. I know that that was a mixed review for some some really a mixed review

[00:11:26] Yeah, some said that they just missed having the clips

[00:11:28] But I think that's the difference is like have you watched the movies or not and if

[00:11:33] If you haven't watched the movies and maybe you're like well wait what exactly

[00:11:37] Because my mom watch a lot fewer of them so she was asking me the whole time like what's this movie about?

[00:11:41] What's this one with the snow with that? Okay, right? Yeah

[00:11:45] That makes sense. I guess I could see that I mean

[00:11:47] I just I did see all of

[00:11:50] Those a lot of those movies

[00:11:52] Recently and so they're fresh in my mind

[00:11:54] I didn't respond to that that way

[00:11:56] My wife who hasn't seen

[00:11:58] Most of the movies that were nominated and for those actors or those categories

[00:12:03] She said she really enjoyed it. I with there was a fun continuity to it in terms of past winners

[00:12:09] There are some really heartfelt and and funny little speeches

[00:12:14] I don't know that they would do that. I don't know if that would work every year

[00:12:18] But I certainly liked it as a thing

[00:12:21] That you know a style of the presentation and and I look forward to similar

[00:12:27] Similar themed or or similarly inspired award presentations

[00:12:33] Yeah, yeah

[00:12:35] What to say the news here today was all about the first Dutch winner in 11 years

[00:12:43] So hoi to fun hoi to my the cinematographer for up in Heimer

[00:12:48] is Dutch

[00:12:49] But yeah, so he's a regular Nolan collaborator and he also did by the way like nope inspector and her and oh wow okay

[00:12:56] Yeah, take your tail. I'll just buy it by just stuff

[00:12:59] So he's he's overdue good for him. What do we say? What do you say in the football pitch? Moe ball or something is that moe?

[00:13:05] No, good ball

[00:13:07] Yeah, I used to play a hot football

[00:13:10] soccer

[00:13:11] Moe ball would be beautiful ball, but I guess I I don't know. I'm not a soccer player

[00:13:16] Right, I used to play soccer a little bit in my younger days and some with a bunch of

[00:13:20] Dutch folks and that yeah, Moe ball

[00:13:22] Okay anyway, anyway, I don't know how else to say congratulations to you

[00:13:27] Hopefully sit here is congratulations cool

[00:13:31] Um cord Jefferson. I thought of all of the

[00:13:36] You know, it hollywood related

[00:13:40] comments about you know

[00:13:42] You know of the speeches

[00:13:44] I thought cord Jefferson winning for screenplay

[00:13:49] For American fiction had something really interesting to say which was

[00:13:54] Look, you're you're risking a lot to put two hundred million dollars

[00:13:58] On the table and if that fails

[00:14:01] You know that wins it you know you can win really big

[00:14:05] But hey man consider the fact that you can make you know for 50 million dollar or

[00:14:10] You know

[00:14:12] You know more films for I'm trying to do math in my head and that's never a good idea

[00:14:17] But you could do you know, 20 10 million dollar films right like

[00:14:22] Spend that money. Let's spend our money in different ways and promote the arts more and let's stop being so

[00:14:29] It's a weird risk aversion. It's like I don't want to spend

[00:14:34] 20 or 30 on you, but I'll put 200 million on this director over here on this big budget sci-fi blockbuster thing

[00:14:42] You know, I'm sure there's some sort of freakonomics and you know podcasts that analyzes game theory and risk behavior and such

[00:14:48] But it's

[00:14:50] You know we really are at a place where we could use more

[00:14:55] smaller offerings

[00:14:57] Rather than one big you know fewer bigger offerings

[00:15:01] Does that make sense to my am I talking clearly through this? Well, I guess I would rather

[00:15:05] More or sorry fewer smaller. I'm personally. I'm overwhelmed with content

[00:15:10] But sure that's true. That's true. Um, I want more

[00:15:15] Efforts yeah, I want to not just pump out big but you know big

[00:15:19] Um, yeah, but not I have nothing against blockbusters is sure no. Yeah. Yeah

[00:15:24] I've been when you know what Sony's doing with the Marvel stuff

[00:15:28] That's I think it's a very uncontroversial obviously

[00:15:31] Spiderman's aside, you know into the the spiderman's animated movies aside, but um, I would rather just

[00:15:40] Let's do these big movies let's invest more time and energy in it. Let's invest more creativity in it

[00:15:45] Let's try to make it special. Let's like think about what are we making this for other than

[00:15:51] Because people spent money on the last similar movie

[00:15:55] Right right which I think that that's still part of that

[00:15:58] Conversation of how are we how how is Hollywood spending its its money and when you look at I mean

[00:16:03] I don't know what the budget on American fiction was but that's like a really

[00:16:08] No, but yeah, well. Yeah. Yeah. It's it was a simple movie in terms of that

[00:16:12] You know he had trouble getting the financing so next time I think it'll be easier

[00:16:17] Where is what what was the I mean they completely canned was it back girl that they just

[00:16:23] Completely threw away. Well, yeah, that was for attacks right off

[00:16:27] Will they after the fact but I mean like

[00:16:30] I don't know. Yeah, it's it's it's it's it's make it for attacks right off

[00:16:33] No, no, no, but Zazov didn't make it in the first place he came in and you know

[00:16:38] Yeah, but so the point is is where how are our efforts being pushed out and if we have something like a madam web or

[00:16:47] you know

[00:16:50] I know guardians is as beloved by a lot of people, but I mean

[00:16:53] There's a there's a lot of effort put into a lot of big IP movies with big budget for

[00:17:00] And I see that's a great just do it well. Do it like that. Yeah

[00:17:04] Yeah exactly and do it well, but then don't only make those right like make the holdovers make the

[00:17:11] Sure American fictions, you know they're

[00:17:14] Well, I think yeah, don't try to go for a big hit on every swing right the good news. The good news is that

[00:17:22] By definition it I think in the cinema will always exist and

[00:17:26] You know there is something some of the most interesting movies that I saw this year were

[00:17:33] I just made an issue string budget like this is film called the Artifice Girl which is one of the most

[00:17:38] interesting and nuanced

[00:17:40] Looks at the morality of artificial intelligence like I would put it up there with

[00:17:47] With devs, you know

[00:17:50] And it's it's

[00:17:52] Most of it. It takes place in two rooms basically and just with a

[00:17:57] Superb little actress playing an AI being and

[00:18:02] Yeah, you can have like if you have real talent you can have these places to let them shine

[00:18:07] But then I love to see like you're to go slant the most the director of poor things

[00:18:10] You see his early work and it's like that and now you see poor things and it's

[00:18:15] People have invested money on him and it gives him a bigger platform to tell his story in a more fantastical way

[00:18:21] Sure, sure and I hope that court

[00:18:24] Courage of us and gets that same progression in terms of investment in him. Yeah for sure. I mean I'm looking at the

[00:18:30] Wikipedia page for

[00:18:32] Anatomy of a fall and it's reported there that their budget was 6.7 million

[00:18:37] Okay, and that movie

[00:18:39] Really affected me in a good way like I was really we'll talk about it later, but

[00:18:45] For 6.7 million I was so taken you know by that and so I think that's court's point is that we can do that kind of stuff

[00:18:55] And we can give people like court or

[00:18:58] Justine triad you know more of those opportunities

[00:19:02] Oh and then just in in

[00:19:04] Yorgos

[00:19:06] Is the same case right like

[00:19:08] Yeah, he got those opportunities and he's thriving. Yeah, yeah exactly so

[00:19:13] Yeah, let's think about how we're spending our money

[00:19:15] I think that's I think you made a really good point about that

[00:19:18] And I'm just super glad that you you won for something. I mean gosh what a dream right

[00:19:23] To be inspired by this book and then to have the author

[00:19:29] You know consent and and give the rights and then to pull all these amazing actors together

[00:19:35] And then his first time directing like that's that's an incredible story. That's an incredible story

[00:19:40] So we got a voicemail from

[00:19:43] Red Zippy on the discord and

[00:19:47] I guess red Zippy is a fan of the red carpet

[00:19:50] And so we thought it would be fun to play that

[00:19:53] Here at the top of the episode. So here we go

[00:19:55] Hi, this is red zippy 330 with some thoughts about the Oscar show itself

[00:20:03] I really loved the actor presentations

[00:20:07] That's always so meaningful to me. I love seeing past winners

[00:20:12] It makes me remember what I loved about their Oscar winning performances

[00:20:17] And it really seemed to mean a lot

[00:20:20] To the nominees this year to hear from the actors

[00:20:24] So I hope they do that every year

[00:20:26] Um, I loved John Cena who presented costume design in the nude

[00:20:33] He looks like the Oscar statuette. He totally don't

[00:20:37] Looks like the Oscar is really funny. I love anytime Kate McKinnon is on stage

[00:20:42] So I really appreciated her

[00:20:45] Repartee with Steven Spielberg about dinosaurs and documentaries

[00:20:50] Something I've read a lot is that Oppenheimer may have won the most Oscars

[00:20:56] But Barbie won the Oscar night

[00:21:00] Was there really truly anything better than I'm just can know

[00:21:05] That was absolutely fantastic. I will rewatch it

[00:21:09] Over and over again that was by far the highlight

[00:21:13] I also enjoyed Ryan Gosling and

[00:21:17] uh

[00:21:18] Emily Blunt

[00:21:20] Uh with their little barbenheimer

[00:21:23] Skip there that was a really cute. I loved John

[00:21:26] Malini when he presented for sound

[00:21:29] He needs to he needs to host the Oscars one day. Yeah, absolutely

[00:21:34] I appreciated the stunt montage but all it really seemed to do was solidify the fact that the academy needs to have a category

[00:21:45] For stunt choreography

[00:21:48] And Jimmy Kimmel was okay. He did really well loved his past your jail time comment after he read the tweet by

[00:21:56] Donald Trump that was really funny

[00:21:58] And then regarding the awards

[00:22:00] I went nine out of 23 and I was happy that I missed two of those

[00:22:06] One was for sound it went to zone of interest instead of Oppenheimer

[00:22:11] And then of course Emma Stone winning four poor things which

[00:22:15] Just

[00:22:17] Filled me to death. I screeched and jumped out of the chair

[00:22:20] I was just enchanted by her reaction. I know she was genuinely surprised

[00:22:26] But she had the best performance of the year hand hands now

[00:22:30] We continue to see the international scope and the effect that

[00:22:34] That is having on the voting body we see it in nominees of course, but winners

[00:22:40] Parasite being the big one

[00:22:41] But this year to see boy and the heron win over spider-me in animated to have a zone of interest within sound

[00:22:49] And even Emma winning for poor things and poor things was

[00:22:53] Probably a more accessible movie around the globe. Well, I don't know given the content

[00:22:59] We're definitely seeing more and more international effects there

[00:23:03] I loved cord Jefferson's speech

[00:23:07] Especially about telling the studios that instead of making one

[00:23:10] $200 $200 oh

[00:23:14] One two hundred million dollar movie they should make ten

[00:23:18] 20 million dollar movies couldn't agree more killian Murphy

[00:23:22] loved the end where he dedicated his Oscar

[00:23:25] To all the peacemakers

[00:23:28] I was bummed that that was Anderson wasn't there, but he never goes to these anyway

[00:23:32] But I was thrilled movie that he finally won an Oscar. He's one of my favorite directors again yay for poor things

[00:23:40] Winning so many awards well deserved lastly

[00:23:44] I feel bad for Martin Scorsese how many times will his movies go oh for blank?

[00:23:52] He just he doesn't win

[00:23:53] I would love to hear your guys' opinion on that what what what is up with that

[00:23:59] I mean that's that's just got a sting and then lastly poor Bradley Cooper whose movie also didn't win anything

[00:24:06] I know he wants an Oscar, but I think he's gonna go and get one by way of George Clooney Brad Pitt

[00:24:14] You know for a supporting actor

[00:24:17] No, I think that's how we're finally going to get his Oscar

[00:24:21] It's just gonna have to be one of those

[00:24:23] Anyway, I enjoyed talking and chatting with everybody during the show last night

[00:24:28] And it is time to get some sleep. Thanks everybody

[00:24:32] Yeah

[00:24:33] Thanks red zippy yeah red zippy was with us last night in the in the discord

[00:24:37] So that was a lot of fun and thanks for sending in your thoughts always appreciate it

[00:24:42] Thanks to everyone who

[00:24:43] Participated in our big run-up conversation that was really cool to

[00:24:47] Hear a lot of our our community

[00:24:50] From from near and far what do you think about this Scorsese?

[00:24:54] I do have to point out he did win once he does have one Oscar for the parted right 2006

[00:25:00] And he's been nominated a bunch of other times and not one but

[00:25:05] I mean

[00:25:08] The he has movies. I think that he were

[00:25:11] We're worthy and not that this one wasn't it's just he's not personally my favorite director

[00:25:17] And I know a lot of other people for them. He is so good good for them right Nolan also didn't have an Oscar

[00:25:23] Nolan didn't have an Oscar at all yet. So now he finally has one so

[00:25:26] You know, it's a tough year to compete. I mean there was a lot of

[00:25:30] Strong contenders

[00:25:32] I think when you look at the films that won

[00:25:38] Well, you know outside of outside of say the blockbusters, but a number of the other ones

[00:25:42] It comes down to the strong story work and this is my personal opinion

[00:25:46] I just didn't find that the killers of the flower moon plot

[00:25:51] Had a strong story so I

[00:25:53] It didn't there that that's where I sort of come in on it and it's gotta be hard

[00:25:57] I mean both for deniro and him to just be sitting there the the whole night

[00:26:01] What are you gonna do and I and I get they're still deniro and Chris Corsese

[00:26:08] And I understand you know Bradley Cooper really wants an Oscar, but

[00:26:12] You know are you making art to get an Oscar or you making

[00:26:17] Art to yeah make the art and and have that kind of success

[00:26:21] And then the Oscar is a byproduct of of what your your efforts produce. Yeah, we'll see if if this

[00:26:28] Does anything you know to shake him out of that uh

[00:26:32] Yeah, that naked ambition let's say

[00:26:35] Yeah, and well, I mean

[00:26:38] Is he is he what is he seeking in that regard? He's made some incredible films. Yeah

[00:26:44] But you know, it's it's so so don't you have the fame you have the cloud

[00:26:48] You can make so many movies people will let you make movies

[00:26:52] Uh and so so do that and then then see what happens as opposed to chasing

[00:26:56] I don't know if he's chasing some kind of legitimacy or something like that. No, no

[00:27:00] That's too much psychological speculation on my part

[00:27:04] But yeah, it's so um she brings up the casting versus stunts controversy

[00:27:09] Which was interesting we were commenting in the discord about that how they came out

[00:27:13] With the stunts montage which is sort of like a we're sorry the castings so casting uh

[00:27:19] We talked about this previously in another episode

[00:27:21] But like there's a casting branch of the academy and they've been lobbying for a really long time

[00:27:25] And so now next year they're finally getting a casting award

[00:27:28] And that's somewhat controversial because first of all people are wondering like how is that going to be translated into voting?

[00:27:34] Is it just gonna be like

[00:27:36] Yeah, I'm a new judge

[00:27:40] And then the other the even bigger part of the controversy is that people really feel like stunts should happen award

[00:27:46] And then so they put together that oh we value stunts yeah, it's a stunts montage and it's like

[00:27:52] Well now you just reminded us how much we need to stunts

[00:27:55] Exactly and how much how hard they work

[00:27:58] And uh the the kind of efforts that goes into into that kind of thing where we can

[00:28:03] Objectively judge it on screen in some ways where casting

[00:28:08] Yeah, it is. It's a little bit more ephemeral

[00:28:10] It's harder to understand what goes into casting they really are

[00:28:14] Magicians in terms of how they compare and find people for the role it really is in art

[00:28:20] I just don't know how to to judge it

[00:28:22] I just don't know how

[00:28:24] I think voters are gonna struggle to figure out how to judge it man. Yeah, that's really interesting

[00:28:28] um

[00:28:29] And the one other negative review

[00:28:31] The people gave to last night was the immemorial was it was hard to see the honor

[00:28:36] Yes

[00:28:37] Yeah, cuz they like resumed out and so they had this whole artistic thing going around

[00:28:42] Going on around it which is lovely

[00:28:44] But then if the people at home can't see the names of the people who died

[00:28:47] Then what's the point of the segment segment? I was really frustrated especially when like say when Carl Weathers came up or you know

[00:28:54] Some of the other people was like oh, you know, and then it but they were just

[00:28:57] The name and the pick their picture was so far away from where the camera was and and

[00:29:04] Yeah, I certainly appreciated the the dancing and the music but I

[00:29:07] Andrea was there himself. That's great. Yeah, they did by saw just have Andrea but Charlie and the you know right

[00:29:14] And then you can fade in and out between the on screen. Yeah, oh, we needed his voice and the you know the montage

[00:29:21] I was really confused too with Al Pacino

[00:29:26] Yeah, what happened

[00:29:28] Some people seem to think it's funny and having are having fun with it

[00:29:31] And I just kind of was like oh that's very strange

[00:29:34] What do you what do you hope that they keep or ditch next year?

[00:29:38] I certainly hope that they ditch the immemorial section

[00:29:41] Not not the section but the presentation. I want him to go back to

[00:29:45] Yeah, where we actually can see on screen some of that stuff

[00:29:49] I thought

[00:29:51] I think that's the only thing I liked the way I like the pacing of the music for the

[00:29:56] nominated songs the way that they they came out through the

[00:29:59] Evening I

[00:30:01] Don't think that there was anything else that I really

[00:30:04] Wish they would ditch it all felt really good. Like I said that you know the presentation for the actors

[00:30:10] I don't know if that would just get old every year having right I just take up a long time

[00:30:14] Yeah, and uh people missed the clips

[00:30:16] So I wouldn't mind if they went back but I didn't enjoy it this year

[00:30:19] I thought it was very touching in some cases

[00:30:21] The clips do lend some some credence to not credence

[00:30:25] But what's the way context for for the actor and what's going on?

[00:30:30] So yeah, and I really hope they keep that start time

[00:30:33] I yeah me too. It just worked

[00:30:35] Yeah

[00:30:36] All right, well let's take a quick break

[00:30:38] And then when we get back we're not gonna go through all of the awards

[00:30:41] But

[00:30:42] We're gonna go through the ranking of the top 10 because you and I had our ranks

[00:30:48] Yeah, and then we'll sort of talk we'll use that as an opportunity to talk about all the the different movies

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[00:31:38] We are back all right. Let's start talking about the best picture

[00:31:43] 10 nominated films for best picture and we thought this would be kind of a fun way to

[00:31:49] Talk about all of these films because there's a lot of really good important movies here

[00:31:54] Unfortunately, I got a chance to catch up on all my movie watching so

[00:31:58] Unfortunately, I got a chance but fortunately I got it right yeah

[00:32:02] Unfortunately, I got hit by a car, but fortunately I was wearing my helmet

[00:32:05] So you know there you go. So yeah, I was happy to see a lot of these and have these keep me company over the last couple of days

[00:32:14] We don't know how the voting

[00:32:16] Worked out in the end actually like we know we don't see the the Oscar voting

[00:32:20] But you had some you're with the Academy of the death racers

[00:32:25] You guys are doing an interesting voting process, right? Yeah

[00:32:28] You can see if you look at the Academy of Deathracer awards at the end

[00:32:33] They actually show how it worked out with the voting each round and also the same for there's a sort of there's another

[00:32:42] Awards ceremony on on letterboxed and the same thing where they show each round like this is what was eliminated

[00:32:50] So it was interesting for instance with the deathees to see in the letterbox one four things one and the deathees

[00:32:56] Started out with Oppenheimer in a strong lead, but as other films were eliminated

[00:33:00] It became neck and neck and then Oppenheimer disqueaked by

[00:33:04] Okay, well, let's start with our number 10s

[00:33:08] What was your number 10 for this year? So I did a little switcheroo

[00:33:13] Oh, okay

[00:33:14] Versus what some people have heard me say before and I decided that my number 10 is my straw

[00:33:19] And the reason I decided that it's not my number nine is because

[00:33:25] I thought about my number nine has some scenes that I think are really genuinely

[00:33:31] Beautiful and impressive and I would be more likely to want to rewatch that when I think about my straw

[00:33:37] There are things I appreciate about it especially from the artistic angle. There's one scene

[00:33:42] That I really enjoyed which is like the dancing scene which basically is nothing to do with the film

[00:33:48] but

[00:33:51] I don't I feel like I got out of it

[00:33:54] You know like I'm wrong at dry for what I could get out of it and I don't think I'm ever gonna rewatch it

[00:33:59] Right, okay very enough

[00:34:01] Mine was killers of the flower moon

[00:34:04] Uh

[00:34:04] I just there was a lot of beautiful cinematography

[00:34:08] A lot of amazing production on it, but I just I couldn't get into

[00:34:13] The primary characters and I couldn't get into the story

[00:34:16] I was interested in the story. I wanted to know about the story. I wanted to be educated by the story

[00:34:20] But I just um, I just felt that it was

[00:34:24] Too long and I know a lot of people say that and I don't want to just be a broken record

[00:34:28] But it was really long and because it was really long

[00:34:32] It didn't compress

[00:34:34] The story and so I never felt driven by what was going on every time I started it started to pick up its pace

[00:34:43] And something interesting started happened then it would just got into these long slow shots where nothing was happening

[00:34:49] There's a lot of setup to something

[00:34:52] And it just really um

[00:34:54] It to me that just caused it to me and her too much and and so it

[00:34:58] When I compare it to you know other films where

[00:35:01] The story is really

[00:35:03] Clear and the the movie isn't service of that story

[00:35:06] I just didn't feel that it could be much higher than 10

[00:35:11] I know a lot of people like it and I know a lot of people enjoy it

[00:35:14] And it's I sometimes wonder like did I watch the same movie the way that people are talking about it?

[00:35:18] It's really incredible

[00:35:20] So it's here number nine

[00:35:22] My number nine is my show

[00:35:24] so

[00:35:26] I

[00:35:27] enjoyed the film a lot for what it did

[00:35:31] uh

[00:35:32] In the way that it told its visuals you know the the visual

[00:35:36] structure

[00:35:37] In service to the narrative and there are some shots in that

[00:35:42] That will just that are that continue to stay with me

[00:35:45] I think I talked about one in our first podcast for the Oscar series

[00:35:49] where there's a sort of long pergola

[00:35:52] Scene and there's a conversation where we don't see the people but it sounds like we're right next to them

[00:35:57] Or there's a picture during the macy's um day parade where a big float passes by a window

[00:36:03] There's some stuff that I think it would really that visually is stayed with me and

[00:36:08] I thought it was a really great performance by Bradley Cooper, but at the same time

[00:36:14] There was just something that was so tightly packaged together

[00:36:18] Then we talked about this before didn't have any it didn't feel organic in some way. It was true

[00:36:24] Was too polished which is a weird thing to say because we want polish so you know

[00:36:29] No, but it didn't have the um humanity

[00:36:33] Well, I mean it was there because it's showing an imperfect man, but it's just yeah, it missed the spark somehow

[00:36:38] Yeah, and it's completely strange that it missed the mark because on paper

[00:36:43] It's a yeah, well the spark I mean the like gives it that extra life that makes it something that touches you

[00:36:49] Because if you read this on paper. Oh, this sounds amazing mm-hmm

[00:36:53] But then on screen

[00:36:55] Yeah, just couldn't yeah, there was just something there. What about you? What's your number nine?

[00:37:00] My number nine is up and high where um I just

[00:37:04] You really don't like this film

[00:37:06] Well, I just uh, I mean it's not that I dislike it. Yeah, I shouldn't put it that way

[00:37:11] Yeah, um, I think it's it's a good film. It's just that

[00:37:15] I found the majority of it

[00:37:18] The most boring way to present the material possible in a way that left zero impact on me

[00:37:23] But then between that were these brilliant impactful scenes and like that's the movie that I was hoping for

[00:37:30] And I have to say full disclaimer

[00:37:32] I wasn't a fan of Dunkirk either because like also because in Dunkirk

[00:37:36] There are like four leads who all look the same and I my friend and I watched it together

[00:37:41] And neither of us she knew one of them was Harry Styles

[00:37:44] And so that's how I learned whose Harry Styles was and that was the only one we could follow

[00:37:47] Okay

[00:37:49] I still have not watched Dunkirk. I need to need to rectify that but yeah, I do story

[00:37:54] But it's just like it just getting

[00:37:57] Just bogged down in the details where I think we're Christopher Nolan really shines as a director is when he

[00:38:04] Like in those scenes in

[00:38:06] Oppenheimer where for instance where

[00:38:09] minor spoiler for the back half where

[00:38:13] Kilium Murphy is

[00:38:15] hallucinating in an auditorium and he's seeing like he effect on his victims

[00:38:20] That those were the scenes that were really impactful and that's like the Christopher Nolan touch

[00:38:24] And that was really what made me feel and think and

[00:38:27] Be touched and I wanted more of that interesting. Okay cool

[00:38:32] Let's move on to number eight when you want to start us off

[00:38:37] Sure, so this is where killers of the flower moon comes in for me. I'm strong

[00:38:42] Eight is strong. I don't know yeah, I mean it's it's

[00:38:45] The reason why it's so I agree with a lot of what you say and I'm just I'm not in general huge Scorsese fan

[00:38:51] There are certain movies of his I'd rather like an in general like I'm not a Scorsese fan

[00:38:56] Scorsese fan girl

[00:38:58] This one honestly it gets ranked as high as it does because

[00:39:02] I do appreciate the Osage representation

[00:39:05] So a lot of the credit goes to the production designer and the

[00:39:10] And he took one who it's about the cinematographer

[00:39:12] And it's the you know costume designer and yeah people who really brought this world to life

[00:39:18] It did feel like a

[00:39:22] Really good representation of this world

[00:39:24] It did really feel like the time the production design and the costuming was incredible

[00:39:30] And yeah, there were some beautiful shots in there

[00:39:33] But for me they all just seemed almost

[00:39:37] Yeah, it's like okay, that's the shot. I get it

[00:39:39] You know you made you set this whole thing up before that shot. Okay, right where's the story

[00:39:44] You know there the shots never felt to me in service of the story

[00:39:47] No, I understand that yeah, yeah, so but I am glad it was made

[00:39:51] And I'm glad that that part of our history has been

[00:39:55] documented by a book and now a movie to make it even more widely available to people so right absolutely

[00:40:02] And what was your number eight?

[00:40:04] American fiction

[00:40:07] Really enjoyed this movie a lot

[00:40:11] But it was also a first time movie and there were times where I could feel the edges of that and

[00:40:18] In some of the production and the the lighting

[00:40:22] But it was a fun film I had a great time seeing it and I really enjoyed the

[00:40:29] conversation that it sparked and I'm really glad that

[00:40:34] Cord is

[00:40:36] Hopefully this is going to be a really big spark to light a light of fire under him because I think he's got a lot of things

[00:40:42] To say and I'm really excited to hear what he's what he's got

[00:40:46] Yeah, okay

[00:40:48] Okay, and what was your number seven past lives

[00:40:53] Too low

[00:40:56] This is uh, I watched it. We did I think it was our first or

[00:41:02] Second movie or you know Oscar podcast

[00:41:04] Maybe it was the second one and I or maybe it was the first one

[00:41:07] I can't remember now and this was my wife and I said we have to watch this movie

[00:41:10] We've got to watch it now or so we wouldn't we watched it and

[00:41:14] I really enjoyed it and it didn't blow me away, but I I loved it. I loved the performances

[00:41:21] The lead actor she was amazing to you know the her physical performances

[00:41:26] I don't have her her name at the on the top of my head right now

[00:41:30] Yeah, yeah, her her performance was was phenomenal and it was a very cool script

[00:41:36] And a very cool story and you know again probably one of these you know

[00:41:40] under 10 million dollar movies right? I mean, I'm sure the the biggest expense was you know just

[00:41:45] It's the first first time writer do I mean even more first time than core Jefferson because he really

[00:41:51] die all those TV connections. Yeah, oh amazing. Okay, so there you go that's it was really

[00:41:57] Well, silly strongest her name by the way, yeah, okay

[00:42:00] It was really well put together. It was beautifully shot and and I think it was um

[00:42:05] Uh, a lovely film

[00:42:07] But it didn't transport me the same way that I know like for you. It was very transported right right

[00:42:12] Well, I think you know, well, it's a that's obviously higher on my list so uh

[00:42:17] Yeah, looks like that one came in at 12 million

[00:42:20] So I could imagine with a international scope of it it costs a little bit more and it looked looked a lot more polished than American fiction

[00:42:27] Yeah, okay, what about you number seven? Um number seven for me was the holdovers um

[00:42:33] I mean, I liked it. It was

[00:42:36] You know, so

[00:42:38] An enjoyable the characters were

[00:42:42] Cool to hang out with but it didn't make a huge impact on me or it didn't

[00:42:47] Someone else said that it was you know a well done collection of cliches and like well yeah a little bit

[00:42:53] Okay, and I think you have said before it's it

[00:42:56] I it just doesn't feel like there's a it's its point to there's as much of a point to it

[00:43:00] The story or it's just kind of

[00:43:03] Here's let me tell you a little tale about this winter at a preps school in the 70s and you know people being people

[00:43:09] And that's all great and I understand why a lot of people connected with it

[00:43:13] I really liked it. I liked other things even better. Yeah, I for me

[00:43:18] Falls into the cat Stevens genre of films of like let's examine the human condition and play some soulful music

[00:43:25] You know some full-tea soulful music around it

[00:43:27] But they even like quoted cat Stevens in the movie. Yes, totally and there was a modified cat Stevens

[00:43:34] Song in there as well. I

[00:43:37] Where does this rank for you? Oh, sorry. Uh where are we what are we talking about? Uh number six is next

[00:43:43] Number six is next so well that is my number six. So I guess that's what we're uh

[00:43:47] Yeah, I guess we could just roll that straight forward into that conversation

[00:43:51] uh it um

[00:43:53] It took a while for it to get to where it wanted to go which is fine and I get that

[00:43:59] I thought that

[00:44:02] Polygymoddy's performance was really good and I think that's why it it ranks a little bit higher for me

[00:44:08] And especially the whole thing with his physical appearance

[00:44:11] And I don't want to spoil anything if you haven't seen it, but there's a thing

[00:44:14] That goes on with that and I thought that that was um

[00:44:18] Done well in terms of how they actually produced it

[00:44:22] I loved Nicholas Cage's

[00:44:24] Comments about that during the actor presentation seems like what I have done that it's like a of course

[00:44:30] But it's really good that you did

[00:44:32] Exactly

[00:44:33] I was really I was starting to cringe when he's when Nicholas Cage was like oh god

[00:44:37] Was he gonna say and then it was really sweet in the end?

[00:44:41] He's got a little weird in the in his last years so

[00:44:46] He does he's doing his most brilliant sometimes unhinged

[00:44:49] But some of his like best work like watch if you want to see Nicholas Cage best actor or father watch pig from the other year

[00:44:56] But anyway, okay, it's about a guy who has a truffle pig that gets stolen

[00:45:01] Okay, interesting. All right there you go

[00:45:04] I thought

[00:45:06] The reason that holdovers ranks at six for me is because of the

[00:45:11] Way that the story was crafted

[00:45:14] Not only the story was crafted but the way that the story was shot

[00:45:17] They intentionally made it look and act like a movie from the 70s

[00:45:22] There was even a couple of rack zooms where you know

[00:45:25] There's a really fast zoom in and the camera bounces a little bit

[00:45:29] Signature thing from the 70s not unintentionally so but that's something that they did

[00:45:35] It the color grading

[00:45:38] All of the sets and the design looked very much of period and so it felt

[00:45:44] um

[00:45:45] It felt really well put together and I thought all of the acting was spot on obviously

[00:45:52] Devine joy, you know wins for best supporting and and I thought Paul Giamatti was

[00:45:57] Was really his performance was really strong and I totally get while for some people this film just wouldn't spark anything

[00:46:04] This is a film

[00:46:06] Of a generation it's a dead poet. You know comes from that year

[00:46:10] Dead poets

[00:46:12] My bodyguard, you know all of these kinds of morality tales on on screen on screen

[00:46:18] So I can understand why a friend of my wife was saying that

[00:46:24] She had a spare moment went to go see it and you know in the theater and completely hated it

[00:46:31] And I get it. I get it right it's okay

[00:46:33] You're not if you're not expecting it and it is it's from a time. It's yeah

[00:46:37] And we should mention that there is some controversy where there's been a copyright claim made against Alexander pain for the script

[00:46:45] So pending but that yeah just worth noting I saw I saw that you you mentioned something about that on on the discord

[00:46:53] And then I I just sort of randomly saw some other stuff from people were

[00:46:57] Looking into that and it seems

[00:46:59] Yeah, well, I think we're gonna have to wait and see because that yeah the claims also don't see

[00:47:04] It's also like you know, I said my friend said that it was cliche written which you know maybe just both

[00:47:09] Moe maybe just both scripts were cliche written. That's also a possibility

[00:47:12] Well, I think it like John says you know regarding tropes, you know, you can use them just you know you do them well

[00:47:18] Right exactly yeah, and that's why I did it well. Yeah exactly

[00:47:22] That's I think that's where because the movie I recognize the movie

[00:47:26] From from my path from movies that I watched growing up so I can I totally get that criticism

[00:47:31] So right right

[00:47:33] All right, let's do number five. Well my number six is

[00:47:36] I'm sorry, do we skip you? I didn't mean you skip your number six

[00:47:39] My number six is American fiction

[00:47:41] And this one yeah, this this one was um

[00:47:45] I think that's between this and the holdovers they both kind of fell in the same box where I they were pleasant and I enjoyed them

[00:47:51] But uh, they didn't

[00:47:53] Hit me as hard as the other ones, but I think of the two American fiction is the more

[00:47:58] It's the more original is saying something more current um, it's saying something. Yeah, it's important and uh

[00:48:06] Yeah, I just I personally I've just my mentality vived with me more. Yeah, no, I can

[00:48:12] Just come sound of vibes yeah, yeah absolutely

[00:48:15] It's a much more relevant in terms of our our current conversations where holdovers is

[00:48:21] Definitely was an era

[00:48:23] Yeah, it's nostalgia flick, but which is great too. I like that also, but yeah, yeah

[00:48:28] Okay, now we can do our number five. What's your number five? Uh, so my number five is anatomy of a fall

[00:48:33] Okay, it's interesting to see when certain places where we line up and then in other places

[00:48:38] Yeah

[00:48:39] Well, I mean so anatomy of the fall was for me um, I

[00:48:43] Was intrigued enough for me the biggest thing was I studied a psychology and

[00:48:48] Well a lot of what we studies also about the

[00:48:51] Fallibility of witness testimonies and I really appreciated the parts of the script especially the went into things like that

[00:48:57] And it made me I saw that it's just in tria the director had only made like five movies

[00:49:02] So I went and watched them all and it ended up being my

[00:49:07] Like third or fourth fourth favorite of hers so okay

[00:49:12] So but I quite like it, but also I'm

[00:49:14] She's now become a favorite director of mine. I hope that she brings back in some of the zany in it zanyness of her prior movies

[00:49:22] Okay, she's really someone who sees

[00:49:24] the imperfections of people and says like let's lean into it. Let's

[00:49:30] This is what makes people who they are

[00:49:32] This is what makes them interesting and right yeah, it's just the way that they

[00:49:37] You know, though we see the court systems how they are using prejudice like oh you're bisexual then you must be promiscuous

[00:49:45] And then

[00:49:47] And then on the other hand just a new marriage is going to be full of

[00:49:52] conflict as well as as good times and this movie reflected that complexity of a human relationship very well

[00:49:59] Yeah, it's a little bit higher up on my list. So I'll save it till we okay and your number five my number five was poor things

[00:50:07] Okay, I know you have it higher

[00:50:09] Yeah, it's it's a deer field for you

[00:50:12] I really enjoyed this movie a lot. I'm really glad I saw it

[00:50:17] I

[00:50:18] Had a fun time watching it. I was entertained. I was you know sort of

[00:50:24] provoked in a lot of to think about a number of things

[00:50:30] Visually, it was beautiful and I don't mean I don't know if

[00:50:33] How this comment might come off but it's like an adult version of a less Anderson film

[00:50:37] Just in the fantasticalness of at all and I thought that was really beautiful and and fun to sort of

[00:50:44] Take away from some of the

[00:50:47] More serious aspects that they were we're talking about

[00:50:52] But ultimately I got let down a little bit by the end and I won't say anything specifically if you haven't seen it but for me

[00:51:00] The it just it felt a little predictable in the very end the very last set of

[00:51:07] Scene I get it and I understand it. I have no problem with it, but it also it then just sort of brought it back into

[00:51:16] A conventional film for me as opposed to something that really was was groundbreaking or transported me in a lot of ways

[00:51:22] Like it but I said I'm not saying that I didn't like the film. I love the film

[00:51:27] But it didn't it didn't the the final note was nice, but it didn't you know it didn't it didn't

[00:51:33] Push me into that next realm of like oh wow. I just what did I just watch? Oh, that was amazing kind of

[00:51:40] It's interesting because they changed the ending versus the book and I find the movie ending much more satisfying

[00:51:47] Interesting okay

[00:51:49] Fair enough. Well, it's hard to not just want to talk about

[00:51:52] Hopefully break it down because if you haven't seen this film you have to go see this film

[00:51:59] Sorry, yes my brain's all a jar

[00:52:03] She her performance she absolutely

[00:52:06] um

[00:52:07] Deserve that Oscar in the opinion I

[00:52:10] Mm-hmm of all the performances of that we saw

[00:52:14] hers was the most she took the biggest journey

[00:52:18] Right, I think literally in the film she took a journey as well as what she had to do as an actor to perform that role

[00:52:25] Was in crash she put in the work and it was incredible to watch absolutely yeah

[00:52:32] Cool, so it's what's your number four?

[00:52:35] Oppenheimer is my number four

[00:52:38] It was beautiful. I wish I could have seen it on a big screen. I get why everybody said see it on on a big screen

[00:52:45] It was a really interesting story. It was I was fascinated by the history and the way that he wove the different threads together

[00:52:55] um

[00:52:56] And at the same time it was

[00:52:59] a big movie

[00:53:01] You know and it really

[00:53:03] when um, I don't know by I

[00:53:06] I wasn't transported in in the same way but visually it was incredible. I think the the way that they built

[00:53:14] the tension

[00:53:16] The way that they're you know the antagonists Robert Downey Jr.'s character as a

[00:53:22] A friend and then later not a friend. I thought that that was all

[00:53:25] Super interesting. I felt it suffered a little bit too much from too many stars

[00:53:30] Like everybody kept popping up and I was like too many characters too many yeah

[00:53:34] Well, I didn't mind the too many characters, but it was just like everybody. Oh, it's Kenneth Brawna. Oh, it's Matt Damon

[00:53:40] Because that's the only way I remembered who was too far enough

[00:53:45] That's a good point

[00:53:46] so um, but yeah and it was an incredible performance by Killian Murphy

[00:53:51] so

[00:53:52] Yeah, I really enjoyed it and um, yeah, it's a big film. It was a great great film to see

[00:53:58] So what about you?

[00:54:00] um my number four was the zone of interest

[00:54:04] Okay, yeah, it's just it's a new way of and people like oh not another Holocaust movie

[00:54:10] I'm the first one like not another Holocaust movie right

[00:54:14] But this is literally what you're doing the sorry de interrupt you but prior to us doing this

[00:54:20] Oscar prep stuff that was my reaction as well right was like oh okay, and yeah

[00:54:26] Having seen it I have a different opinion. Please can you yeah, it's obviously in your top three because you haven't yet

[00:54:33] But yeah, no, it's it's literally looking at it from a new angle um

[00:54:38] The

[00:54:39] Jonathan Glazer the director he's a bit hit or miss for me

[00:54:42] Uh to be honest like I didn't like the scarlet your hands in one beneath her beneath the skin

[00:54:48] Um, I thought it was okay, but it's just I don't know I get impatient with his stuff

[00:54:52] But this I was captivated for every second and that has a lot to do with the cast a lot to do with the production design setting

[00:54:59] And of course the Oscar winning award mix sound mix

[00:55:03] um right and it's just

[00:55:07] It's just showing the

[00:55:09] How relatable these people were but also how disturbing they were at the same time yeah

[00:55:15] And it's it's uncomfortable, but it wasn't as heavy as I expected in a weird way

[00:55:20] I think it was also because I was in a theater that saw it as a dark comedy

[00:55:23] And we kind of laughed a lot of stuff also because I was in a theater where most people can understand German pretty well

[00:55:28] um

[00:55:29] So

[00:55:31] Yeah, I it was a more enjoyable watch and people were like I'll never watch it again. I'm like oh absolutely watch it again

[00:55:37] I yeah, I think there's more that I can take out of it now that I have processed it

[00:55:43] Right, right yeah, I think that I think you're right to sound I heard interesting quote that the they made two movies

[00:55:50] They made a visual movie and an auditory movie and I totally

[00:55:54] They made two auditory movies and then layered that move each other sure well

[00:55:59] But you know what I mean? I'm like there's a there's the what's going on over there

[00:56:02] Which we can only hear and then what this what we have here which was what we can see right and and that

[00:56:08] Blending and I thought well talk about it when I wouldn't we get it to to my positioning

[00:56:13] But I think I largely agree with you for a lot of the same things that you were saying

[00:56:17] I thought I was gonna go into watching this

[00:56:21] I saved it till one of the later movies I watched

[00:56:24] And I was kind of like oh, you know

[00:56:27] I got a brace I gotta be ready for this or whatever and it wasn't it it really was a much

[00:56:33] Uh

[00:56:34] It wasn't uh

[00:56:36] What's the word there was a a lightness to it which is not

[00:56:40] Exactly you didn't have a heavy gravity or wasn't really pulling on my heartstrings. It was just very it was almost

[00:56:46] Documentary and in a way, you know, it was almost like

[00:56:50] Yeah, he said big brother in Nazi house. Yeah

[00:56:53] Yeah, you just had the hidden cameras capturing the family and and the fact that it was a sunny setting and a guardian

[00:56:59] And the river and yeah, exactly and then suddenly there's a skull and the river and like oh right

[00:57:04] Right exactly. Yes, and you just you kind of can I keep having to or you hear a sound and you're like oh yeah

[00:57:09] That's that's something that I gotta I can remember where we are here

[00:57:13] And I thought the

[00:57:15] Um

[00:57:16] And I'll just say this now and we'll talk about where it is in my position later but um

[00:57:21] that it's

[00:57:23] It's it the not only in the construction of of

[00:57:28] The movie itself, but then what it is

[00:57:31] reminding us of

[00:57:33] The importance of of

[00:57:35] Yeah, it's not just about oh like here's this family that saved this other family or here's this wealthy industrialist that like saved a whole bunch of people and if they hadn't set up

[00:57:44] This thing and gotten people right okay

[00:57:47] It's all tugging at our heartstrings and scrape we've worked this story

[00:57:51] get to remember that

[00:57:53] The reason that the Holocaust happened is because a whole lot of people participated in it on a day-to-day nuts and bolts process

[00:58:02] Mm-hmm

[00:58:03] And we have to remember that we have to remember that that that is

[00:58:08] Uh, that banality of evil is real and I think that this film

[00:58:14] captures it in an way that you can watch this

[00:58:17] And not be moralized at

[00:58:19] Mm-hmm. You can you can be this observer and then you remember you hear that sound

[00:58:24] And you're like oh yeah, that's what's going on here

[00:58:27] And and I thought that that really pushed the boundaries of filmmaking

[00:58:30] I thought that that really did something very important

[00:58:33] And I think it's broken new ground in a way to make a films at the scale so right

[00:58:39] Well, yeah, I think it's I went in so Jonathan Glazer the director. He's only made four films

[00:58:45] Yeah, that's not a lot. Mm-hmm

[00:58:47] Yeah for future films. So he has sexy beasts which is like a guy richy type film

[00:58:50] He's got birth with Nicole Kidman which is about a kid comes back and says he's a re reincarnated husband and it's

[00:58:58] Weird and creepy. That's actually my favorite of his

[00:59:00] Okay, this one after this one

[00:59:02] Um, and then there's in in this uh, sorry under this game with scarred Johansson Rishis and alien who's like

[00:59:09] Studying humanity and hunting humanity and learning empathy along the way okay

[00:59:14] And it really feels like they feel so different from each other

[00:59:17] And it feels like the zone of interest is and

[00:59:21] An evolution where he's learned from all these different things and you know

[00:59:25] He still has the stayed camera, but he's learned how to keep it lively enough to keep it engaged

[00:59:32] Yeah

[00:59:33] Yeah, that's one thing because we're always very removed from the action and and the physically distant from our

[00:59:41] Mean characters like if if I didn't know that sanja soundra huler was in this film

[00:59:46] I wouldn't have known that that was on drug because I'd never have a lot of intimate close-ups with her in in a similar way

[00:59:53] And and so yeah, we're at this remove, but we never feel

[00:59:58] We always feel connected and we always feel part of what's going on at the same time which it's a really weird

[01:00:04] psychological space to be in yeah and and to carry that off through that edit

[01:00:09] Uh and through that whole that filming process. Yeah, it's it's really remarkable

[01:00:13] Yeah, absolutely. Yeah

[01:00:15] All right number three

[01:00:17] My number three is Barbie my number three is also Barbie

[01:00:22] Hey

[01:00:23] Here we go we the the streams have converged

[01:00:26] Why is it your number three? I thought it was a lot of fun. It was very cool. It

[01:00:35] It did something that a lot of films don't in terms of taking a protected product

[01:00:42] That has a long history and then

[01:00:45] Being for the filmmaker to be able to take that and into do something unique and novel and surprising and entertaining with it is really

[01:00:53] exceptional

[01:00:55] It's it was a fun romp. It's beautiful

[01:00:59] And it's a big blockbuster and you know, it was fine like it was it was a it was a cool movie and and when I compare it to

[01:01:07] Smet the bike top two it didn't move me as far or in the same way

[01:01:13] Uh, but I but that said I loved it. I have a good good time watching it

[01:01:17] I really want to be able to watch it with my family our daughter doesn't enjoy movies as much

[01:01:23] And so hopefully one of these days will get her will you know we'll get it on

[01:01:27] On streaming and watch as a family together

[01:01:30] I think it would be a lot of fun. I am really itching to see it again

[01:01:33] Yeah, we didn't see it. We saw it in the theater last summer and so

[01:01:38] Yeah, it's on mex

[01:01:40] Yeah, so I think I did find a very moving I cried in the theater um

[01:01:46] I just also I love when you can tell a story that laugh makes me laugh and makes me cry

[01:01:52] And you know and candy colored wrapping is perfect wonderful. I just brilliant

[01:01:58] You know, it's it's a brilliant comedic performances which are really underrated in Hollywood and at the Oscars

[01:02:06] but also

[01:02:08] With a lot of emotional punch

[01:02:10] um, and it just woe so much together so impressively about

[01:02:15] About you know societal ideas about Barbie and about you know women and men in general and also the history of Barbie

[01:02:24] And also with classic film history

[01:02:27] Did you notice by the way that the performance of I'm just Ken at the Oscars last night was a tribute to

[01:02:34] With diamonds our girl's best friend. I

[01:02:37] Didn't in the moment it felt

[01:02:41] Familiar like I got the

[01:02:44] Like I think I got it on a subtext and then I saw later somebody mentioned that and I was like

[01:02:49] Oh, of course it was like that's why it worked yeah

[01:02:52] That's why I was so fit in the gloves and then taking him up and spinning him around exactly in the tuxedos

[01:02:57] And and the whole thing yeah absolutely so that

[01:03:00] Kudos to them for for being smart. Yeah, and they did that throughout the movie itself too

[01:03:05] So it was just it was just a delightful experience in every way to watch it because

[01:03:10] It just hit every note that I want from a movie and the only reason it's not higher is because

[01:03:16] There's one movie that just like

[01:03:18] Buried into my heart and another one just it did the things Barbie did but

[01:03:23] On another surreal on yeah exactly and I think that's where we have to we have to think about well

[01:03:28] Yeah, how we're judging our criteria is like what how how was I moved by this

[01:03:34] Piece of art and and and what spaces did it take me to and how far did it take me and yeah?

[01:03:40] I totally agree

[01:03:41] All right. Well, uh here we are our number two's what is your number two Alicia

[01:03:47] My number two is past lives. Um, yes you loved this film. Yeah, I mean, but it's also I it's kind of made for people

[01:03:55] Five people like me for people like me, I guess because it's very

[01:03:59] Specifically about the experience of being caught between two worlds

[01:04:02] Which is how I've seen myself my entire life whether that's you know between two families growing up

[01:04:08] I'm a child of divorce between two cultures in that regard between

[01:04:12] uh the US and the Netherlands

[01:04:15] Um just every and and the

[01:04:18] people that you meet along the way and

[01:04:21] Ah, I just uh could have beens and yeah. Yeah, yeah, just also just the ways

[01:04:28] That the ways that you know love aren't isn't the cliches that you see in romcoms love is

[01:04:34] Comes in so many different forms and sometimes

[01:04:37] The you know the greatest love is just saying I understand that you have a loving relationship with someone else

[01:04:43] I'm not a part of and I respect and love that because that's part of you. It's part of the makes you who you are

[01:04:48] um

[01:04:50] Yeah, and that was really beautiful part about about the film the ending was so poignant and so beautiful

[01:04:55] And so like yeah, sometimes

[01:04:58] Life is just about accepting something that kind of sucks

[01:05:02] But is bitter sweet in the same way. It's not that yeah

[01:05:05] Yeah, that's what I mean

[01:05:06] It's just like oh you know on the surface a bitter well as we say bitter feelings

[01:05:09] Deciding not to be hurt by something because you know you

[01:05:13] like

[01:05:14] Nobody doubts no character in this film ever doubts their

[01:05:19] Affection and love for each other at any point and but they still go through these complex emotions together

[01:05:24] And that's what I love about it and yeah just

[01:05:28] You know when

[01:05:29] The idea you know she's like a dream in korean sometimes and even tries to learn korean to be closer to her her boyfriend and

[01:05:37] um just all the beautiful gestures, but how we can never

[01:05:41] We can never fully understand each other and they're gonna be people who understand certain parts of us

[01:05:47] And other people who understand other parts of us

[01:05:49] Mm-hmm

[01:05:50] And that's what makes life beautiful

[01:05:52] Yeah, and I think grettily

[01:05:54] beautifully encapsulated that in her performance

[01:05:57] And silly songs writings

[01:06:00] Yeah, no doubt it was a it was a really really enjoyable film to watch. I'm so glad that

[01:06:08] I still want to cry about it how many months later

[01:06:13] Fair enough fair enough and your number two

[01:06:17] Anatomy of a fall

[01:06:19] this film

[01:06:21] Did I can't see

[01:06:24] It elicited so many emotional responses from me at first. I was like oh what is this? I'm gonna watch some

[01:06:31] I don't know I had a lot of mixed feelings going into it and then

[01:06:35] By the end of it. I had no idea how I ended up where I ended up

[01:06:39] But I looked back on that emotional journey that the film took me on

[01:06:44] And I was really astounded that it was able to capture me

[01:06:48] To bring me in to keep me at times on the edge of my seat

[01:06:53] other times

[01:06:55] To be anxious and nervous other times to be like sort of heartbroken and soulful and

[01:07:02] it

[01:07:05] Broke a lot of Hollywood rules like there's a lot of things that in another movie would have happened or should have happened

[01:07:13] The ending you know there just I don't want to see anything because I don't want it to

[01:07:18] You know spoil the enjoyment of of the film

[01:07:24] But my brain kept wanting certain things to happen and I was like oh my god

[01:07:28] Hollywood is like trained me to

[01:07:30] Respond in this situation

[01:07:33] This certain you know something's gonna happen right. This is what's gonna happen

[01:07:36] My brain kept trying to predict that and it didn't do that that film didn't do that

[01:07:40] Every time it it subverted that

[01:07:42] Expectation that I had right

[01:07:45] So I really appreciated that the performances were phenomenal the the dog the acting of the dog. Yeah

[01:07:51] Oh, seriously like a dog who's so good at playing dead they even

[01:07:56] They shot when he came to the Oscar luncheon where he they got trouble for bringing him and he wasn't supposed to come to the Oscars

[01:08:02] But then he did

[01:08:04] The trainer had him playing dead there and someone was rushing up like oh my god. He's okay

[01:08:09] Exactly the film. Yeah, exactly

[01:08:13] So yeah really really enjoyed

[01:08:17] This movie and I'm I totally would have

[01:08:20] You know any if I had if we hadn't done this if you hadn't brought this idea forward

[01:08:24] There's no way I would have bothered to see this film and I'm so glad I saw this film it really spoke to me on a lot of levels and

[01:08:31] It did what I want movies to do which is to transport me to take me out of this world

[01:08:36] Take me into their world and then take me on a journey and I was

[01:08:41] Completely gobsmacked by the end of this at where it went so yeah

[01:08:45] And so speaking of films you probably wouldn't have otherwise watched that brings that leaves one number one for you

[01:08:52] Yes, the zone of interest

[01:08:55] Uh, we talked obviously talked a whole bunch about it just a minute ago. So we won't go too much into it, but I think

[01:09:02] Sometimes

[01:09:04] You know, there's our enjoyment. There is what a film does just for the sake of a film like how the film was constructed

[01:09:12] You know how it was acted you know all the special effects all that kind of stuff

[01:09:15] And then there's the the impact on

[01:09:19] On society was it just entertainment like the holdovers? Yeah, it was great

[01:09:23] I really enjoyed it. I had a really lovely time seeing it but it didn't move me in it didn't move my my

[01:09:29] sense of

[01:09:32] Social like what's going on in society in the same way that this movie did this movie kind of blew your mind in that regard in level

[01:09:39] I guess it really I think it's a really important that we got to remember and I said this before and then just repeating myself here is is that we have to remember

[01:09:46] That the the Holocaust happened because people were complicit and they went along with it

[01:09:52] And we're at the stage right now where we need to be reminded of that. Yes, we need to be

[01:09:58] We need to touch that part of history and remember what it is that that happened so that we can

[01:10:05] Stop it from happening again

[01:10:06] And I thought that this movie did that

[01:10:09] It's it's it's a society changing movie that broke ground for cinema and told the story in a different way

[01:10:19] and was

[01:10:20] Expertly acted and you know, so all of it just all around was was par excellence and it moves the needle

[01:10:28] for us as a as a

[01:10:30] you know

[01:10:32] Species on side of that I just right, you know humanity are us on this planet

[01:10:37] It's reminding us of something that we have to remember

[01:10:41] That's very important. So I took that sort of last little bit and said no that's got to be

[01:10:45] It was gonna be in my top three just in terms of construction of what it does as a movie

[01:10:50] But then that final little bit sort of makes it um, I think my number one. So okay

[01:10:57] Yeah, what about you?

[01:10:59] Uh, so yeah, that leaves poor things for me

[01:11:02] Yes

[01:11:03] I mean, I have to admit I do in general love

[01:11:06] Lantimos and I love Emma Stone and uh, yeah

[01:11:10] So I was inclined to like it. I also like a Frankenstein tale

[01:11:14] I like a fanciful tale. I like a you know

[01:11:17] Modern take on Victorian settings. I went through a huge steam punk phase

[01:11:22] Okay

[01:11:24] So it just it has all the ingredients, but um the reason why I love Lantimos is that his films and this is the adaptation again of an of an Alistair

[01:11:32] Gray novel which I

[01:11:34] Cannot recommend enough if you like the film you're gonna find some key differences

[01:11:39] One same title yeah

[01:11:41] But the difference is that in the book the majority of the book is narrated from the perspective of Rami Yusuf's character

[01:11:49] You know, he

[01:11:50] Um

[01:11:52] The assistant slash okay no spoilers um right right

[01:11:56] It makes sense. That would be a good point of view. I could get that uh

[01:11:58] Yeah as a good point of view from the book

[01:12:01] But then uh, I think that the movie does a huge service and then

[01:12:04] Bella's point of view in the book comes in later and in a kind of confusing way

[01:12:10] And the movie just says we're gonna tell it all from her perspective and so that's a good choice. Mm-hmm

[01:12:18] Yes, and it um

[01:12:20] I just asked so many questions that I find really important that i've been pondering myself for a number of years

[01:12:27] So it just really

[01:12:28] Sometimes you know your favorite movies just because it it hits the sweet spot for you

[01:12:33] It just connects with things that are important to you and that you enjoy

[01:12:37] And this is our case. It's just absolutely gorgeous um, it's I find it really funny

[01:12:43] But also you know really heartbreaking. I think of her when she

[01:12:47] realizes that she can't help people i'm like oh honey, that's me every day, you know

[01:12:54] And uh

[01:12:56] Just is it so does so much in one film. Yeah, it covers so much grounds and then so

[01:13:03] Beautiful and entertaining and funny. It's just everything I would want in a film of the year

[01:13:07] Yeah, yeah, absolutely

[01:13:09] It was a it's a triumph on so many levels

[01:13:13] Ruffalo is very funny

[01:13:15] both Diffo and uh

[01:13:17] Remi um, sorry

[01:13:20] Yeah, you ready? You said um we're we're charming as well

[01:13:24] I'd love the inversion of the the Frankenstein story

[01:13:29] And the

[01:13:31] The way that

[01:13:33] It's paced and and where she goes and what she does is

[01:13:39] You know, and how she does it. It's just it's phenomenal

[01:13:42] And and I would caution not one anyway. Sorry. That's not the right word. I would

[01:13:47] flag for anybody who's

[01:13:49] Her certain things about the film don't listen to that other stuff about right? It's not the movie prepared

[01:13:55] Yeah, but be prepared there will be sex so you know

[01:13:58] If you need to yeah exactly and they're and it and it does talk about um

[01:14:03] uh

[01:14:04] The sex worker trade and and that kind of stuff

[01:14:07] But that's not what this film is about at all. No, it's about the progression of a person going through all of this growing and

[01:14:14] And I love the fact that land the most

[01:14:16] acknowledges the fact that

[01:14:19] sex is an important part of our physical beings and our realities

[01:14:23] And he doesn't shy away from that the camera doesn't turn away from it

[01:14:28] And that's part of her journey, but it's not the totality of her journey

[01:14:31] So did you did you ever read the book stranger in a strange land by my line? No, I don't think so um

[01:14:38] It's it was one of I've read it at a probably younger age than

[01:14:42] Most whatever I guess but it's stuck with me for that reason because I've read it as a teenager ever since

[01:14:48] But it's about a man who a human who was accidentally left behind or whatever

[01:14:53] He was born and raised on Mars by Martians because you know back when they were doing a lot of

[01:14:59] People live on Mars stories

[01:15:00] And so then he's discovered by earth astronauts who bring him back to earth

[01:15:05] And he has to learn how to be human as an outsider

[01:15:09] And I love a good story like this and this is as has some weird parallels with that like some of the quote lines that I quote

[01:15:15] For life are from that movie, you know where he's like trying to figure out why do we laugh and he realizes oh

[01:15:19] We laugh because it hurts too badly and that's the only thing

[01:15:23] releases the pain

[01:15:24] Um, just saying and asking questions about the possessive nature of romantic relationships and things like that

[01:15:31] And yeah, so this film has some interesting parallels with that I just realized

[01:15:37] Yeah, very cool. I and I agree that

[01:15:41] The the way that it examines the nature of relationships and especially I think when you put

[01:15:47] Poor things next to Barbie. It's a really interesting combination. It's a powerful combination

[01:15:52] Because it's examining for so long all of our movies are all about

[01:15:58] And not all of our movies I shouldn't say it that way but a lot of the dominant media especially for what I was growing up is all about

[01:16:04] A boy's journey and a hero's journey and you know what the guys are up to and what our relationships are like

[01:16:10] These two movies really examine very

[01:16:13] closely what it's like for women to move through life and make choices and to

[01:16:19] Have this feeling like why are you trying to possess me? I like the way that that was portrayed and poor things was

[01:16:25] so interesting. It's like

[01:16:27] especially, you know, no spoilers but the the ending sort of sequence the final

[01:16:33] dramatic set of events

[01:16:36] and and

[01:16:37] To examine that this question of possession and this question of identity

[01:16:42] So interesting and it was so expertly told

[01:16:46] I have to say that Barbie does have one advantage of report things

[01:16:49] So it's just thinking about is that Barbie does look more also at the male side of things more whereas

[01:16:57] Whereas poor things looks more at the where men can be held liable in the typical roles that they play and holding women back

[01:17:07] Barbie also looks at you know how men are held back and holding themselves in each other back society

[01:17:12] Right and it's a similar way women do but different that specific to our societal norms reach gender. Yeah, yeah

[01:17:17] It's interesting because it because poor things almost has a very

[01:17:21] singular focus with

[01:17:24] Focus to yeah, yeah very bella focus whereas Barbie is looking at a much bigger

[01:17:29] wider social structure how are how are our social norms

[01:17:34] reinforced how they reinforce each other and so yeah, I think when you take these two films together

[01:17:39] It's really interesting you're kind of going from you know quantum

[01:17:43] Physics or something to you know, Tony if it's I don't know. I'm not I'm not in Oppenheimer about here

[01:17:48] But the idea of scale right we're at one scale this thing's happening and it's this other scale this other stuff is happening

[01:17:54] Right, and it's it's a really fascinating look right for Einsteinian Einsteinian yes to Newtonian physics

[01:18:02] There we go cool

[01:18:03] Well, I at least a thank you so very much for

[01:18:07] Suggesting this whole series and and I'm really glad that I saw all ten of these movies. I feel

[01:18:13] Much more enriched

[01:18:16] But I had a fun time watching

[01:18:18] A lot of these so I'm really glad that we got to do this

[01:18:21] I think we've got a little piece of feedback from Jimmy to sort of round out our coverage

[01:18:26] Do you want to read this I can hear my voices starting to get a little froggy? Sure

[01:18:31] Sure, so Jimmy says hi everyone. Thank you for the great podcast got into this podcast a few months ago because I know

[01:18:38] Jean personally and started listening to the Marvel episodes yay

[01:18:42] Oh the the yay inserted by me

[01:18:45] Although the term death racers is new to me for over 10 years

[01:18:48] I've made the efforts to watch all the Oscar-nominated movies and short films

[01:18:51] So I've thoroughly enjoyed the Oscars coverage episodes even though there are

[01:18:57] Well was already in the race without

[01:18:59] You know you're racing

[01:19:01] Even though there are always going to be numerous Oscar snubs each year

[01:19:05] There's one that's been bothering me this year. It's my favorite movie of the year all of us strangers

[01:19:09] I felt that it belonged in all the major categories, but especially Andrew Scott and the lead actor category

[01:19:15] It's such a beautiful film that made me cry along with the strangers sitting to my left and right when I saw it in theaters

[01:19:21] It's the movie I've been recommending to everyone's to see anyways

[01:19:26] I just finished finalizing my Oscar predictions looking forward to your next episode after the winners are announced warm regards Jimmy

[01:19:34] Thanks to me for writing in and

[01:19:37] Glad we have a Jean fan there

[01:19:39] What is all that happening in?

[01:19:40] Have you have you heard of all of us strangers? No, not and I haven't heard

[01:19:45] So yeah, it is right now. It's arguably the biggest snub they got nominated for nothing

[01:19:51] Because yes since mid-December at least got one nomination

[01:19:56] But it is so it's Andrew Scott is he plays a lonely

[01:20:01] Man a gay man who is dealing with some

[01:20:06] childhood trauma and he's coping with it in a way he has sort of a fuzzy

[01:20:12] connection with reality, you know in terms of processing

[01:20:16] So he's visiting his parents

[01:20:17] But it's like quite literal the way it's presented on screen and then that sort of explored

[01:20:22] And then along the way he meets Paul Mezkel's character who's a neighbor of his and you know seems to be an equally lonely person

[01:20:30] Okay, head is very beautiful. It's uh kind of twisty

[01:20:35] It's uh devastating left me feeling very sad. It's a very good film and I for me

[01:20:42] Um Andrew Scott is the best male lead performance at the year although I would give

[01:20:48] I would I would say Mezkel should have been nominated

[01:20:50] But I still think Charles Melton should have been nominated in one for me December

[01:20:54] But yeah, Andrew Scott was it's just gives us he's you know and just he's best known for being like the hot priest in shameless

[01:21:02] Oh sorry, not shameless for in um a sleaze bag

[01:21:07] uh and for being the

[01:21:10] Moriarty in the Sherlock

[01:21:13] Yeah, yes. Yes. Yes. That's why I knew a lot of over the top. Yeah

[01:21:17] yeah

[01:21:18] Uh and and this is just

[01:21:20] a really

[01:21:22] Quietly devastating performance where a lot of it is just like with the twitches in the corner of his eye

[01:21:27] Just you know stab you in the heart

[01:21:29] Okay, did it make any uh headway at the deathees?

[01:21:33] Um it one two deathees so

[01:21:35] It won best film not nominated for a Noskir and it won best LGBTQ plus film

[01:21:42] Nice very cool

[01:21:43] So yeah, it's a lot of a lot of love for that one and it should have been nominated

[01:21:47] And also I have to say the iron claw should have been nominated about the

[01:21:51] Von Eric wrestling wrestling family um

[01:21:55] I think you know there were some casualties to the

[01:21:59] Strike and to movies being delayed and actors are being able to promote in months and advance

[01:22:05] And then some of these smaller films that came out later they just didn't couldn't generate the buzz quickly enough

[01:22:11] Right, right. Yeah

[01:22:14] People are like damn

[01:22:16] It's really interesting to you because there's uh there was a lot of international film representation in the

[01:22:22] In the right that pushes out some smaller

[01:22:25] Uh you exactly so it's uh although

[01:22:29] The other strangers was uh it's British but english language films. Yeah

[01:22:33] For sure, awesome

[01:22:36] Great. Well, thanks Jimmy for writing in a totally appreciate that and uh let's take a quick break

[01:22:40] Then when we come back let's look at 2025 ahead both for our own lore hounds plans and for some of the films

[01:22:46] That we should be keeping an eye up so that we're not rushing it the last minute to watch all the films

[01:23:04] And

[01:23:06] We are back

[01:23:08] All right, Alicia. Let's talk about next year and let's talk a little bit more specifically about what we might want to do for the lore hounds in terms of how we cover

[01:23:20] The Oscars, you know, I mean we really

[01:23:23] Started out as a tv related podcast with a little you know film on the side so you know

[01:23:29] Doing something Oscar-related wasn't directly on the radar

[01:23:33] But then you know, you came with a really strong pitch and it turns out that

[01:23:37] There's a lot of people who really are interested in this in our community

[01:23:40] And so I think you read the room you did your homework and you uh actually put your finger on something that I think

[01:23:48] Would have been otherwise a miss

[01:23:50] For our community and the way that our community is growing

[01:23:53] So a thank you for doing that and like I said before I had a lot of fun

[01:23:57] So this has been a really great experience

[01:24:00] Well, you have the great idea of bringing in the extra voices and I think that really made the the series too

[01:24:05] Yes, I think so I think that's that's a fun thing. I think when we think about the lore hounds

[01:24:11] One of the things that we've been talking about is just community as part of our brand right and and where we came from John and I came from

[01:24:19] Community we came out of the bald move community

[01:24:22] And so community is just always around us and and we're interacting with with folks all the time

[01:24:28] And we have our discord and all of our feedback channels and things like that

[01:24:31] And so it just seemed natural

[01:24:35] To want to bring in other voices and and this idea that

[01:24:40] We have a whole bunch of film lovers in our um in our midst and people who

[01:24:45] Who is it that was going to there was a couple of folks who were posting from the like the the new york film festivals

[01:24:50] And other things and it was like oh well Shane and Danny and and you know

[01:24:57] Adrienne and you know, it's like well we've got to

[01:25:00] These people have something to say so let's let's bring them in right. Let's let's give them a platform

[01:25:05] So

[01:25:06] What do we think about

[01:25:09] For coverage for next year? I totally think this is an important part of our annual planning for next year

[01:25:14] We should definitely do more or to

[01:25:17] Promoted a little bit more and and cover it a little more. Did you like the big format?

[01:25:22] Big podcast heavy footprint format like two plus hours or I mean, it's a lot to edit say that

[01:25:29] You know, I love a long episode

[01:25:31] But did you you you deposited the idea of doing more shorter episodes and with advanced planning? Yeah

[01:25:38] That could also that could be very interesting

[01:25:40] I would love to hear what listeners think what they yeah

[01:25:44] Like should we be breaking it down to fewer categories and then maybe we're going further in depth into each category

[01:25:52] Yeah, because the there's a lot to cover

[01:25:55] But at the same time certain categories need to have more conversation around them rather than then less sure and then

[01:26:03] Is it picture would become two separate episodes probably

[01:26:07] Yeah, and is it two and a half hour podcast too long right you know, I've got other podcasts

[01:26:12] So I gotta listen to you. I mean, I just know for my own podcast. I mean, I'm a huge house of our fans

[01:26:17] So like I think we are really slim on time

[01:26:23] But I think you know when you when I listen to big picture a lot and you know Sean and Amanda

[01:26:28] You know, they come in and around an hour and a half

[01:26:31] A lot of times it's it's Joe and Mal that are the you know that break the two hour barrier all the time exactly

[01:26:38] And so yeah, I don't wonder if if

[01:26:42] Doing a few more lightweight, but I think it's I would love like you said to hear from some more folks to see what people

[01:26:48] Would like for that yeah

[01:26:50] I know for just recording just raw recording time and and scheduling that in a day

[01:26:56] Breaking it up as a little nicer as well as just editing

[01:26:59] You know, we could get them out a little bit faster or we could plan our coverage to spread out a little bit more

[01:27:04] Yeah, why are we still we

[01:27:07] Would still have the window of between so this year the nominations were announced on the 23rd and

[01:27:13] Then probably after that it need a week to finish off the films and then you know the I've ceremonies on the 10

[01:27:19] So it gives like a month and a half

[01:27:21] right right

[01:27:23] What do you think about this idea of

[01:27:26] A pool like I had this random idea I message you about like should we do like a

[01:27:31] Charity drive pool thing I mean because I hear a lot of people

[01:27:35] Talking about betting and I got this many ride and that many wrong or that kind of stuff

[01:27:38] I don't do that kind of thing normally. I was just trying to think oh would that be a fun thing to do to engage people

[01:27:45] And if we did it would that be a

[01:27:48] Good way for us to do some sort of charitable

[01:27:52] contribution at the same time which you know a lot of

[01:27:55] Yeah, I mean I think

[01:27:58] We have also at least it's something that people can do without contributing money because I do a lot of

[01:28:04] Oscruples but I don't pay for any of them also because I just haven't lately been in a position where I can afford to do that

[01:28:11] Respecting that other people will be the same

[01:28:15] I think yeah, maybe a couple different options like one that's just for

[01:28:21] Uh

[01:28:22] When when it's a charity drive and maybe another one that's I don't know what we have to explore these

[01:28:27] But again, I want to hear what are people what gets people excited? What sounds like fun to the people at home

[01:28:33] Are there did you use any kind of particular websites this year to to track your nominations and your rankings and so I I mean I participated in

[01:28:44] A prediction contest for the death racers of course for

[01:28:48] vanity fair a podcast for

[01:28:52] The

[01:28:53] For stuff on letterboxed so a lot of different random places. Okay, but then it's uh

[01:28:58] It's it's basically mostly just for bragging rights you right exactly internet points

[01:29:03] Yeah, well anything that we would do you the only winnings you would get our our internet points of course

[01:29:10] And then you know that's where the idea was yeah

[01:29:13] Yeah, I'm not interested in that but if we did it in such a way that those who wanted to participate in some sort of

[01:29:18] financial contribution

[01:29:21] Towards charity or whatnot, but then yeah, then you say it right like if

[01:29:25] You know people like are not in a position to do that does that preclude you from participating

[01:29:29] It shouldn't preclude you from participating and so how do we how do we do it at the same time? Yeah, doesn't

[01:29:36] Doesn't put people into that weird box

[01:29:38] So yeah, so these are some of the ideas. We're gonna be kicking around and we definitely would love him

[01:29:43] I think for sure we want the alive chat channel on the discord so we can do that again

[01:29:48] That was great

[01:29:50] Yeah, I really had a good time doing the the second screen thing and

[01:29:54] Yeah, it would be fun to I don't know

[01:29:58] It's doing community watches live watches and things like that are hard on scheduling to find something that works for everyone

[01:30:06] But yeah, I don't know we I'd like to see some more ways that we could I think we we had a side channel for the

[01:30:12] Award season stuff

[01:30:14] It was a more a generic conversation. I think we definitely need a bigger suite of

[01:30:19] Channels on the discord for the different kinds of conversations that we want to have so

[01:30:24] A better infrastructure there I can totally envision yeah, so

[01:30:30] Cool

[01:30:31] All right, well, let's talk a little bit about what is coming up in this next year

[01:30:37] What do we see are some early runners that we know that are out there?

[01:30:41] We we definitely know of one don't we do we do

[01:30:46] You certainly do I gotta go see it again. Yeah, they're tonight or tomorrow. I think

[01:30:50] I mean, it's funny that so we're talking about Doom part two in case anyone didn't get there yet

[01:30:56] But it's funny that you know in the past people like June was supposed to be released at the end of this prior year

[01:31:03] And it would have been it would have been up against you know

[01:31:06] Bears pack which would have been super interesting much messier

[01:31:11] um

[01:31:12] But it was delayed because of the strike and they wanted the actors to be able to promote and

[01:31:17] but it's what is interesting is that last year's winner everything everywhere

[01:31:20] Once was released in the spring and you know past size, which is an omnie this year was released in the spring

[01:31:26] And um, it seems like they are starting to break away from the idea that

[01:31:31] Oscar movies the month exactly which is so much better for

[01:31:36] People at home like a you know, there were movies like we talked about like all of us strangers and

[01:31:41] The iron claw that missed out because they were kind of too last minute

[01:31:45] um

[01:31:46] And also saw other austro nominees like anatomy over phone the zone of interest people when they were first nominated

[01:31:52] The layperson at home was like what was that? Mm-hmm. Yeah

[01:31:56] So I'd like to see more

[01:31:59] Things like dune that pop up earlier in the year and we just have all here to be excited about them

[01:32:04] You're right, right

[01:32:05] What kind of nominations do you think it might get?

[01:32:08] Cool. I have no idea at this stage

[01:32:10] I my brain is is not even there. I'm still trying to trying to process my first viewing of it

[01:32:16] We are and if

[01:32:18] If you're interested we are pulling together a dune coverage

[01:32:22] We've got uh, I think the people who are going to talk about it

[01:32:25] I think we have a proto structure. I don't want to release anything until we actually confirm date and time

[01:32:31] I don't want to dig anything but you and I Alicia are definitely gonna be on the mic or definitely

[01:32:36] We're talking about it with a couple of other people

[01:32:38] It's gonna happen. I need to see it again. I am so

[01:32:43] I just I can't process it right now

[01:32:46] I'm still still floating in some sort of weird liminal space

[01:32:50] So the sound certainly the visual effects were pretty incredible

[01:32:57] Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I think we're looking

[01:33:00] It's eligible for 15 awards and I think it is a strong contender for basically all of them

[01:33:07] Okay, I think the biggest like it should get screenplay adopted screenplay director best picture

[01:33:12] Simultography production design cost of makeup and hair VFX editing sound score

[01:33:17] The question is

[01:33:19] Who gets nominated for acting?

[01:33:21] Sure sure

[01:33:23] Yeah, especially when we gonna see what else is up as well. Yeah, no yeah, that's true

[01:33:28] But uh people are already in the death race or community making predictions for next year

[01:33:32] Is bardam up for supporting

[01:33:35] Um, yeah, I mean, I think he's a strong contender for that but also Austin Butler is one that everyone's coming out talking about

[01:33:42] I'll talk about our backup Ferguson for actress. Yeah, sure. Yeah

[01:33:47] Well, we we get things to talk about that. Yeah

[01:33:50] Um, but for if people are wanting to get a head start on next year

[01:33:54] If you're on letterboxed

[01:33:55] I made a letterbox list list that will link in the show notes uh where

[01:34:01] I've pulled together a lot of them most likely awards contenders into a list and also

[01:34:06] This is also the list where I'm tracking the movies I'm watching all year

[01:34:09] So madam webs on there that's not because I think it's going to win awards. It's because I've watched it

[01:34:15] Um

[01:34:17] But yeah, so just some highlights from that is there are already you know, we're talking about this

[01:34:22] uh spring no longer barring you from

[01:34:26] You being nominated for the Oscars. So there are some strong contenders in the movie theaters now or coming soon

[01:34:34] So I know love lies bleeding is it's an a24 feature and it's um

[01:34:39] It's

[01:34:40] It looks phenomenal apparently everyone says it's phenomenal. I'm very excited to see that one. It's it's a

[01:34:48] I don't know it's with Kristen Stewart and I'm sorry I forget the other actresses name

[01:34:51] And it's something over like a thriller romance uh, it's kind of hard to parse from the

[01:34:57] From the trailer in the best possible way um

[01:35:01] And then the other big a24 story this year is they're going to try their first blockbuster

[01:35:06] made from Alex Garland

[01:35:09] Uh, who is someone who I

[01:35:11] Generally really liked except I didn't like his last movie men

[01:35:14] But this one it's called civil war and it's uh cal

[01:35:18] California and Texas succeed from the US and

[01:35:23] But he's apparently wants to not make it political so it's very like

[01:35:28] Very confusing and it's hard to say is it's gonna be a smashes. It's gonna be a car crash

[01:35:32] You know, yeah, which way is this film gonna go? It's a 24th first gamble in like bigger budget territory

[01:35:38] You know and a 24 makes smart bets right they're not

[01:35:42] Yeah, they're savvy and in this and right it's still some faith but I'm like, I don't know

[01:35:47] I don't know

[01:35:49] And it's so weird because we're in a selection year and and there's uh, there's uh, there's a whole

[01:35:56] Swath of the the electorate that are in this fever dream of of civil war

[01:36:02] And I don't know. I just have a lot of mixed feelings about it. So yeah, we'll see you know and um

[01:36:09] Uh, what's her name?

[01:36:10] Kristen Dunst I used to not like her do it here no duns

[01:36:15] No

[01:36:18] Sorry, I was sorry. I was back to uh, I've been speeding yep

[01:36:22] Um, I used to you know not enjoy her as an actor as much and I think it was in

[01:36:29] Fargo in one of the Fargo TV series. I've really come to love her

[01:36:32] I think she's a phenomenal she is done that she's she just does the work

[01:36:36] And she's so good and I just I don't know. I'm so confused about this movie

[01:36:42] So yeah, we'll see. We'll see what else we got um

[01:36:45] So yeah in terms of things that are in the theaters are soon uh, there's we've got drive away dolls

[01:36:50] Which is one of the co-embrothers and his wife

[01:36:53] Which is supposed to be really wacky and so it's getting

[01:36:56] mixed reviews because of that uh, I like wacky and evil does not exist is a it's a busy Japanese film

[01:37:03] That's just releasing abroad and then we also have like there are movies like the bike riders

[01:37:08] Bike riders was a film that was gonna be talked about for the award season that we just finished

[01:37:13] Uh, but it got delayed because of the strikes

[01:37:15] So now that's coming out soon. So keep a keep an eye on films that were delayed because of the strikes

[01:37:21] It's often because they think there's a good reason

[01:37:24] It's gonna do well later if they've actress to promote it. So okay

[01:37:28] And then of course yeah, just if you want to keep up just look at what has been winning the awards in Sundance

[01:37:35] In the summers movie about some daughters or the problematic relationship with their father

[01:37:40] You know who's both loving and abusive

[01:37:44] There's Dede who's it's the first feature from the director who did the grandmother short

[01:37:49] There was nominated for Oscars this year and one of the grandmothers is in it

[01:37:53] On the documentary side

[01:37:55] daughters

[01:37:56] Which is about a daddy daughter dance at a prison and evilin which is about a

[01:38:02] um

[01:38:03] A young man with muscular just a free passes away and his parents are touched when they start

[01:38:09] Receiving all these letters from members of his gaming community around the world and

[01:38:14] Documentary about it. Yeah very

[01:38:17] So yeah

[01:38:18] Look through the Sundance winners these are gonna be strong contenders

[01:38:21] But also don't forget the blockbusters. You know we deadpool and Wolverine is expected to be the biggest box office

[01:38:27] Draw of the year and that's gonna show up somewhere in the awards almost certainly right

[01:38:33] We've got wicked part one which I'm super excited about. I'm a huge Gregory McGuire the books fan

[01:38:39] So I loved it the books and then they were turned into a musical that I love and I just know I'm gonna love the this movie

[01:38:46] and

[01:38:47] Also on the um maybe musical what is kind of musical side that we have the Joker

[01:38:52] sequel fully or do

[01:38:54] Mm-hmm with Lady Gaga and I did not think we needed another Joker movie until somebody said Lady Gaga in musical now. I'm like okay

[01:39:04] Oh, got you and of course this is Furiosa gladiator two and Kevin Kassner is coming out with like some crazy long new series called

[01:39:12] Horizon in American saga and he's releasing both parts one and two this year. No, that would be interesting to watch

[01:39:19] I don't know

[01:39:21] What to make of it

[01:39:23] But definitely keeping an eye on it and then yeah, there's like some just busy features that are released at the traditional time

[01:39:29] At the end of the year to watch out for the Supremes at Earl's all you can eat con clave

[01:39:35] Which is about the choosing of a new hope and

[01:39:39] And mega-lopolis is the new Francis Ford Coppola movie

[01:39:42] So these are all ones um or just you know if you are if you love the certain movie or certain actor actors or director from this year

[01:39:50] Look up what they're doing next like the next

[01:39:53] Lanthamose stone and and all collaboration including

[01:39:57] Willem Dafoe will be back to it's called Kindness coming out this year

[01:40:01] Um, if you love Lily Gladstone look up fancy dance. Okay. It's gonna be her next vehicle

[01:40:07] uh

[01:40:08] Sing sing my get Coleman de Mingo his next acting nomination very good

[01:40:14] horror fans we don't usually get many movies nominated but yeah

[01:40:19] But Robert Egger's best known for movies like The Witch and the Northmen and stuff

[01:40:25] You watch the witch right yeah, you didn't yeah

[01:40:28] He his next movie is no Sforatu so everything about this spells success to me

[01:40:33] uh

[01:40:34] An animation fans you've already got a Ryan in the dark out on Netflix. It's which is literally Charlie Kaufman for kids

[01:40:41] um and there's gonna be a lord of the rings animated like or the roar room

[01:40:46] Yeah, they were cool

[01:40:48] And then of course, you know disney's got some stuff coming out. Let's see how they do we've got inside out too

[01:40:53] We've got Moana to Moana to we've got Mufasa

[01:40:56] Okay, so a lot of a lot of stuff a lot of contenders already

[01:41:01] All right, well, uh

[01:41:03] I'm sure glad we have you here to keep us oriented in an aware of some of the things

[01:41:09] um on your letterboxed is that like a segmented list or that's all your movies

[01:41:14] That's all my movies. I've had explainer at the top um god

[01:41:19] It's ranked the movies that i've seen i'm ranking them so by the end

[01:41:23] Okay, by the end of a word season it'll be all the movies with my personal ranking

[01:41:27] Uh, but then after that it's you'll see the next group is stuff that's coming out in the near future

[01:41:33] There's a lot of horror movies on there not because

[01:41:36] I think they're gonna get nominated but just because i like horror so

[01:41:39] sure

[01:41:41] Maybe we should uh think about some uh for the show tracker for our subscribers

[01:41:46] You know, we have the show tracker resource that might be something we can

[01:41:49] See if we can i've got movies in there, but maybe we should you know buff that up a little bit or separated out in some way

[01:41:55] Anyway, it's a database we can do stuff with it. Cool

[01:41:58] Well, let's wrap it up there. Alicia. Thank you again so much for the fun

[01:42:02] I know uh so many people enjoyed uh this and we wouldn't have had it without your um standing up and saying

[01:42:09] But what about film?

[01:42:12] Or not even what about film like let's do

[01:42:14] Let's go

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