Which critically-acclaimed albums this year do Mark and Nichole actually kind of hate? In this week’s Sidetrack, we come back once again to discuss the eight nominees for “Album of the Year” at the 2026 Grammys. Tune in to hear our hosts deep-dive on the high and low points of this year’s crop of nominees. As a bonus: our thoughts on the “Song of the Year” and “Record of the Year” categories! Check us out next week for a normal episode!
Music heard in this episode: Tyler, The Creator - “You’re a Mean One, Mr. Grinch”, Tyler, The Creator - “Sugar on My Tongue”, Tyler, The Creator - “Noid”, Tyler, The Creator - “Darling, I (feat. Teezo Touchdown)”, Lady Gaga - “Abracadabra”, Lady Gaga - “Can’t Stop the High”, Justin Timberlake - “Like I Love You (feat. Clipse)”, Clipse - “Chains & Whips (feat. Kendrick Lamar)”, Clipse - “Ace Trumpets”, Kendrick Lamar & SZA - “Luther”, Kendrick Lamar - “Reincarnation”, Dan + Shay & Justin Bieber - “10,000 Hours”, Justin Bieber - “Daisies”, Justin Bieber - “Yukon”, Sabrina Carpenter - “Tears”, Bad Bunny - “Moscow Mule”, Bad Bunny - “BAILE INoLVIDABLE”, SZA - “Snooze”, Leon Thomas - “Snooze”, Leon Thomas - “MUTT”, Leon Thomas - “HOW FAST”, Doechii - “Anxiety”, Rosé and Bruno Mars - “APT.”, Huntrix - “Golden”, Bad Bunny - “DtMF”, Chappell Roan - “The Subway”
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01:00 --> 01:05 [SPEAKER_12]: It's like, okay, do you know Tim Armstrong is the dude from Rancid, who's also like a producer?
01:05 --> 01:05 [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.
01:05 --> 01:12 [SPEAKER_12]: This is like, if I had the, if the Slack at MX record, that's about to come out, had a clip of him saying, hey Mark, you're so punk.
01:12 --> 01:14 [SPEAKER_12]: And I'm go, oh yeah, Tim, why?
01:14 --> 01:17 [SPEAKER_12]: And he's like, yeah, you sound like you, you're homeless kid who Hollywood Boulevard in 1984.
01:18 --> 01:21 [SPEAKER_12]: And I literally was like, thank Tim, love it.
01:21 --> 01:23 [SPEAKER_12]: I'm like, Justin, come on.
01:23 --> 01:25 [SPEAKER_18]: Yeah, you're like your Canadian girl.
01:36 --> 01:37 [SPEAKER_12]: Hey, I'm Mark, and I'm Nicole.
01:37 --> 01:39 [SPEAKER_12]: And this is never mind the Grammys?
01:40 --> 01:40 [SPEAKER_12]: The Grammys.
01:40 --> 01:46 [SPEAKER_12]: Yes, 2026, which means music from mostly, 2025 and some 2024.
01:47 --> 01:52 [SPEAKER_21]: Which is actually confusing when you look up, like, give me the list of the people that are nominated for Grammys.
01:52 --> 01:56 [SPEAKER_21]: Like, I really stumbled over, is it 2026 or 2025?
01:56 --> 01:57 [SPEAKER_21]: Yeah.
01:57 --> 01:58 [SPEAKER_21]: What are we doing?
01:58 --> 02:22 [SPEAKER_12]: Well, it's also weird when something's released late in the year, like, for example, maybe this will come up later, like Taylor Swift, her new album did not get nominated because it's a little bit late to the release by a few weeks, but if you're looking like a decade later, oh, when was life of a show girl nominated for album of the year, you're going to be looking at the 20, 27 Grammy Awards in February, 20, 27 for a 20, 25 album.
02:22 --> 02:24 [SPEAKER_21]: And I would just like to bring up.
02:24 --> 02:45 [SPEAKER_21]: on the podcast that when the Grammy awards came the nominations came out we were texting and you said I can't believe Taylor wasn't nominated and I'm the one that said it's because she was she missed the deadline and you were like oh you're right and I just want to go on record and I was right that's all but I was right
02:48 --> 02:49 [SPEAKER_12]: It's on the record unless I delete this one.
02:49 --> 02:50 [SPEAKER_21]: Yeah, you're probably good.
02:51 --> 02:52 [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, he can tell you what.
02:52 --> 02:54 [SPEAKER_12]: So it is a little tricky sometimes.
02:55 --> 02:56 [SPEAKER_12]: Figure out what exactly is nominated.
02:56 --> 03:02 [SPEAKER_12]: But we in this episode are talking about the 2026 Grammy Awards which are happening on February 1st.
03:03 --> 03:04 [SPEAKER_12]: So this is coming out.
03:04 --> 03:10 [SPEAKER_12]: I think on the 20th, everybody's got a week and a half to listen to some of this music if you're interested.
03:10 --> 03:12 [SPEAKER_12]: You want our takes on last year's Grammys.
03:13 --> 03:14 [SPEAKER_12]: We did an episode like this last time.
03:14 --> 03:24 [SPEAKER_12]: And that's where you're going to get some sweet, sweet, Andre 3000 content, some Taylor Swift, deep dives on tortured poets, all that kind of stuff.
03:25 --> 03:28 [SPEAKER_12]: Even if you already know the results of the award.
03:28 --> 03:29 [SPEAKER_21]: Still a fun listen.
03:30 --> 03:31 [SPEAKER_12]: Are you going to watch the Grammys?
03:31 --> 03:32 [SPEAKER_21]: I am going to watch the Grammys.
03:32 --> 03:33 [SPEAKER_21]: I like the outfits.
03:33 --> 03:36 [SPEAKER_21]: I like to see who gets to drunk and like, axe up.
03:37 --> 03:37 [SPEAKER_21]: Right.
03:37 --> 03:38 [SPEAKER_21]: Like that.
03:38 --> 03:39 [SPEAKER_21]: I like the interesting stuff.
03:39 --> 03:41 [SPEAKER_21]: Yeah, I want to like see the drama.
03:41 --> 03:42 [SPEAKER_21]: I don't want to read about it the next day.
03:42 --> 03:44 [SPEAKER_12]: And there's performances, which is kind of cool.
03:44 --> 03:45 [SPEAKER_21]: The performances are cool.
03:45 --> 03:48 [SPEAKER_21]: Last year's Grammys had great performances.
03:48 --> 03:50 [SPEAKER_21]: Like, don't she performed it last year's Grammys?
03:50 --> 03:51 [SPEAKER_21]: And I was like, who is this person?
03:52 --> 03:52 [SPEAKER_21]: Yeah.
03:52 --> 03:53 [SPEAKER_21]: Got obsessed with her.
03:53 --> 04:12 [SPEAKER_12]: and like Benson boon right right when he like they like ripped the thing and he did the flips and stuff that's he did the thing with the other thing and the other thing and it was like so cute so I will not watch the Grammys but I will watch the performances why not like as a I just can't rule I just know it's it's not a rule so much as a creed
04:12 --> 04:14 [SPEAKER_12]: Okay, no, I just I just kind of never do word shows.
04:15 --> 04:19 [SPEAKER_12]: I don't know why but I want the performances I just sort of don't vibe on that stuff.
04:19 --> 04:20 [SPEAKER_12]: The outfits.
04:20 --> 04:20 [SPEAKER_12]: I get it's cool.
04:21 --> 04:32 [SPEAKER_12]: It's just you know the worst moment in a reality show like a competition reality show when they say and the person cut is
04:34 --> 04:35 [SPEAKER_12]: Mark, you are in, right?
04:35 --> 04:37 [SPEAKER_12]: That feels like the whole award show.
04:38 --> 04:42 [SPEAKER_12]: It's like 40 minutes of content over three hours, except for some performances.
04:42 --> 04:46 [SPEAKER_12]: So I will try to check the performances later, but I'm not planning on watching it.
04:46 --> 04:47 [SPEAKER_21]: Oh, I like to watch it.
04:47 --> 04:49 [SPEAKER_21]: Yeah, let me know if you need snacks and stuff.
04:49 --> 04:50 [SPEAKER_21]: I get into it.
04:51 --> 05:10 [SPEAKER_12]: So last time we did some big picture talk on the Grammy Noms and specifically, well, one thing we talked about was that A, it was a lot of women nominated for album of the year, and a lot of those big awards last year and also there were no groups, not even duo is to say nothing of bands.
05:10 --> 05:11 [SPEAKER_12]: And that has changed a little bit.
05:11 --> 05:13 [SPEAKER_12]: We have a different collection.
05:13 --> 05:17 [SPEAKER_12]: We've got, first of all, a group, clips was nominated, and that's a duo.
05:17 --> 05:20 [SPEAKER_12]: So that breaks the solo artist streak.
05:20 --> 05:23 [SPEAKER_12]: And also, it's kind of flipped from the perspective of gender.
05:24 --> 05:32 [SPEAKER_12]: We have six men or male groups clips with old counters on the men's side, and then only two women nominated for album of the year this time.
05:32 --> 05:35 [SPEAKER_12]: Unless my math is wrong, we've got Gaga and Sabrina Carbender.
05:36 --> 05:36 [SPEAKER_12]: And I think that's it.
05:37 --> 05:38 [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.
05:38 --> 05:58 [SPEAKER_12]: pretty different pretty very very different side from Sabrina making a repeat showing do you have like the last year we did the Vegas odds do you have the Vegas odds oh my god and I did I did randomize the order we're gonna talk about them though I did not use random dot org this time I used my polyhedral dice app oh gosh
05:58 --> 06:03 [SPEAKER_12]: So like do you ever randomize things when you're doing tests at school or anything like order?
06:04 --> 06:10 [SPEAKER_12]: Because like I will have my students in my music theory and oral skills course do site reading final exam.
06:10 --> 06:16 [SPEAKER_12]: They have to stand in a room with me in like site read music and I will randomize which one they do.
06:16 --> 06:23 [SPEAKER_12]: I, and I roll a virtual Polyhedral D12 to determine which one you, and you don't have a D12 diet.
06:23 --> 06:23 [SPEAKER_12]: I could bring.
06:23 --> 06:24 [SPEAKER_12]: I used to bring it.
06:24 --> 06:27 [SPEAKER_21]: Like, I have the kids role of the students role at the kind of fun.
06:27 --> 06:29 [SPEAKER_12]: It felt a little bit performatively nerdy.
06:29 --> 06:30 [SPEAKER_12]: I, I, well, I make them.
06:31 --> 06:34 [SPEAKER_12]: I make them try a little harder to find out how nerdy I am this time.
06:34 --> 06:34 [SPEAKER_21]: Oh, yeah.
06:34 --> 06:36 [SPEAKER_21]: So I used a lot of stuff like that.
06:36 --> 06:37 [SPEAKER_21]: Like, I'll randomize test questions.
06:37 --> 06:41 [SPEAKER_21]: I'll give multiple versions of the same written, like exam and class.
06:41 --> 06:44 [SPEAKER_21]: And I'll randomize the order of the questions so they can't cheat.
06:44 --> 06:46 [SPEAKER_12]: But you don't use like a D30 to do that or anything.
06:47 --> 06:51 [SPEAKER_21]: No, the only thing kind of close and it's actually very, very cool For group names.
06:51 --> 06:57 [SPEAKER_21]: There's a cool like tribe called quest name simulator that I use online like a name generator.
06:58 --> 06:58 [SPEAKER_12]: Not the Wu Ting.
06:59 --> 07:00 [SPEAKER_21]: Oh, it is the Wu Ting.
07:00 --> 07:00 [SPEAKER_21]: I'm so sorry.
07:01 --> 07:06 [SPEAKER_12]: We talked about the the Wu Ting name generator because that's childish Gambino's right.
07:06 --> 07:08 [SPEAKER_12]: That's how we got this name right supposedly.
07:08 --> 07:11 [SPEAKER_21]: Yeah, also notably not nominated for Grammy this year.
07:11 --> 07:13 [SPEAKER_12]: Not nominated for Grammy does he have an album this year?
07:13 --> 07:13 [SPEAKER_12]: No.
07:14 --> 07:14 [SPEAKER_12]: I don't think so.
07:14 --> 07:15 [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.
07:15 --> 07:16 [SPEAKER_12]: So I do want to mention him later actually.
07:17 --> 07:18 [SPEAKER_12]: Shortly.
07:18 --> 07:19 [SPEAKER_12]: Stay tuned.
07:19 --> 07:22 [SPEAKER_12]: So we are going to do the betting odds a little bit just for the album.
07:22 --> 07:23 [SPEAKER_12]: Just not for the songs.
07:23 --> 07:23 [SPEAKER_12]: Okay.
07:23 --> 07:30 [SPEAKER_12]: And I just want to remind everybody how betting odds work if you're not someone who's lost half your fortune on the sports books.
07:30 --> 07:38 [SPEAKER_12]: If you see a line saying negative 200, what that would mean was you have to bet $200 to win $100.
07:38 --> 07:42 [SPEAKER_12]: So that means that person is a for that team or whatever is a favorite.
07:42 --> 07:42 [SPEAKER_15]: Okay.
07:42 --> 07:46 [SPEAKER_12]: So you would have to bet 200 to earn 100 in win.
07:46 --> 07:48 [SPEAKER_12]: So they are highly favored and accurate.
07:48 --> 07:51 [SPEAKER_20]: Why would you bet 200 to earn 100?
07:52 --> 07:54 [SPEAKER_20]: Well, because you get 300, right?
07:54 --> 07:55 [SPEAKER_12]: You have to 100.
07:55 --> 07:58 [SPEAKER_12]: You wager 200, you would get 100 in profit, right?
07:59 --> 08:00 [SPEAKER_12]: That's minus 200.
08:00 --> 08:03 [SPEAKER_12]: If something says plus 200, that means something or someone is an underdog.
08:04 --> 08:06 [SPEAKER_12]: So it means if you bet 100, you win 200.
08:07 --> 08:07 [SPEAKER_21]: Yes.
08:07 --> 08:09 [SPEAKER_12]: So plus 200, you double your money.
08:09 --> 08:13 [SPEAKER_21]: Do you want to actually make a money bet on the Grammys?
08:13 --> 08:19 [SPEAKER_12]: I have a feeling we're going to probably have similar, I don't know, maybe let's let's see how it, let's see how it shakes out.
08:19 --> 08:24 [SPEAKER_12]: So I will say, you know, we are recording at a legal casino right now.
08:24 --> 08:27 [SPEAKER_12]: So any bets that we do publicly are completely related.
08:28 --> 08:30 [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, totally, literally under the Commonwealth laws.
08:30 --> 08:31 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
08:31 --> 08:35 [SPEAKER_12]: I will say, though, nobody is a true favorite according to the odds.
08:35 --> 08:39 [SPEAKER_12]: So there are front runners for sure in the odds, but nobody has a minus.
08:39 --> 08:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
08:40 --> 08:42 [SPEAKER_12]: Nobody's like minus 200 or anything like that.
08:42 --> 08:44 [SPEAKER_12]: And I think maybe somebody might have been last year.
08:44 --> 08:51 [SPEAKER_12]: Randomized order, we are starting with Tyler The Creators from the Copia, which was released in 2024.
08:52 --> 08:53 [SPEAKER_21]: I loved this album.
08:53 --> 08:55 [SPEAKER_21]: I liked Tyler The Creators for a couple different reasons.
08:55 --> 08:58 [SPEAKER_21]: Like, do you ever see the animated Grinch movie?
08:58 --> 08:59 [SPEAKER_18]: You mean the one from the 60s?
08:59 --> 09:01 [SPEAKER_21]: No, no, no, the newer one.
09:01 --> 09:02 [SPEAKER_21]: No, no, no.
09:02 --> 09:03 [SPEAKER_21]: It's very, very good.
09:03 --> 09:04 [SPEAKER_21]: Yeah.
09:04 --> 09:07 [SPEAKER_21]: and Tyler the creator did the soundtrack for it.
09:07 --> 09:07 [SPEAKER_21]: Wow.
09:07 --> 09:09 [SPEAKER_21]: And it was really, really, really good.
09:09 --> 09:10 [SPEAKER_21]: Like the soundtrack stand alone.
09:10 --> 09:17 [SPEAKER_21]: It's like a dare I say interpolation of original Grinch music that he just put his spin on.
09:18 --> 09:19 [SPEAKER_12]: Maybe she's just a cover.
09:19 --> 09:21 [SPEAKER_21]: No, it's not a cover because he changed stuff.
09:22 --> 09:22 [SPEAKER_12]: Okay.
09:22 --> 09:23 [SPEAKER_21]: So I can get the script.
09:23 --> 09:24 [SPEAKER_21]: A reinterpretation.
09:24 --> 09:25 [SPEAKER_21]: Sure.
09:25 --> 09:25 [SPEAKER_17]: Right.
09:38 --> 09:53 [SPEAKER_21]: So that was my first exposure to the creator and I listened to this album and really, really loved it.
09:53 --> 09:59 [SPEAKER_21]: I thought it had like a cool new Jack swing type of vibe to it and it was not true, but you'll correct me.
09:59 --> 10:04 [SPEAKER_12]: So I do think some things had kind of 90s.
10:04 --> 10:10 [SPEAKER_12]: throwback feel, though not as much as some other things we're going to talk about later, but this is what I'm going to mention, Childish Gambino.
10:10 --> 10:19 [SPEAKER_12]: I think similarly, those artists both have really clever arrangements that change a lot, that have a lot of really unique instrumentation and samples.
10:19 --> 10:21 [SPEAKER_12]: And the genres are just jumping all over the place.
10:21 --> 10:26 [SPEAKER_12]: There's like jazz, R&B, hip hop, obviously, sort of rock in there.
10:27 --> 10:28 [SPEAKER_12]: It's
10:28 --> 10:35 [SPEAKER_12]: sort of unpredictable in the sense, like this album, so this album is basically flows like a diary from his mother, right?
10:36 --> 10:52 [SPEAKER_12]: And so it's kind of changing throughout, at least from what I could tell like on the perspective of the speaker of a given song, like some things maybe or more from his perspective, some might be from the perspective of his mother and with that
10:52 --> 10:56 [SPEAKER_12]: overall what's happening is changing and I thought it was really cool.
10:56 --> 11:00 [SPEAKER_12]: This is definitely one also that's sonically really well produced like it just sounds awesome.
11:01 --> 11:02 [SPEAKER_12]: So definitely one I would revisit.
11:03 --> 11:10 [SPEAKER_12]: By the way, his Grammy history, he won best rap album in 2020 and in 2022.
11:11 --> 11:15 [SPEAKER_12]: But this is the first time he's up for one of the like huge ones like album of the year.
11:16 --> 11:17 [SPEAKER_12]: He's up for six though this year.
11:17 --> 11:18 [SPEAKER_21]: Wow, that's cool.
11:18 --> 11:22 [SPEAKER_12]: So album of the year, best rap album, best album
11:22 --> 11:22 [SPEAKER_12]: I love that.
11:23 --> 11:24 [SPEAKER_21]: Oh, that's, I didn't even know that.
11:24 --> 11:25 [SPEAKER_12]: It's a tricky cover with the mask and stuff.
11:26 --> 11:32 [SPEAKER_12]: Best alternative music album, which interestingly is don't tap the glass, not this album.
11:32 --> 11:36 [SPEAKER_12]: He actually released another album during this cycle.
11:37 --> 11:39 [SPEAKER_12]: So like this tune, that's some people may have heard.
11:39 --> 11:47 [SPEAKER_13]: This is Sugar on my tongue.
12:03 --> 12:07 [SPEAKER_12]: That's not from this album, that is from his next album, which was released in 2020.
12:08 --> 12:11 [SPEAKER_21]: So the album that he's nominated for is called Chroma Copia.
12:11 --> 12:12 [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.
12:12 --> 12:14 [SPEAKER_21]: And the song you just played is not from that album.
12:14 --> 12:17 [SPEAKER_21]: And you can tell, like, sonically it's so different.
12:17 --> 12:22 [SPEAKER_21]: We're more like dance, electronic, and Chroma Copia is very, very soulful and jazz.
12:22 --> 12:23 [SPEAKER_12]: A little chill.
12:23 --> 12:25 [SPEAKER_21]: And like, really strong.
12:25 --> 12:33 [SPEAKER_21]: like hard-hitting rap lyrics and non-seated rap, which is a really interesting style of rap that Tyler falls under.
12:33 --> 12:39 [SPEAKER_21]: And I really liked how soft and gentle this album is, but do you think of like rap albums?
12:39 --> 12:43 [SPEAKER_21]: I expected to be something else in this song, this was so soulful.
12:43 --> 12:44 [SPEAKER_21]: and so lyrical.
12:44 --> 12:46 [SPEAKER_21]: I'm so interesting in how it told the story.
12:46 --> 12:50 [SPEAKER_21]: And I love albums that you listen to front to back and you get a whole narrative.
12:50 --> 12:50 [SPEAKER_12]: Sure.
12:50 --> 12:51 [SPEAKER_21]: We're losing that.
12:51 --> 12:52 [SPEAKER_12]: Definitely a concept album.
12:52 --> 12:52 [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, sure.
12:53 --> 12:53 [SPEAKER_12]: It's an album.
12:53 --> 12:59 [SPEAKER_12]: And some of the tunes are soulful and jazzy, but it's also kind of erratic.
12:59 --> 13:02 [SPEAKER_12]: Like so the singles, by the way, are noid sticky and like him.
13:03 --> 13:04 [SPEAKER_12]: But this is what noid sounds like.
13:04 --> 13:08 [SPEAKER_12]: And this one, I would say almost sounds like a hip hop version of Warp Higgs.
13:08 --> 13:11 [SPEAKER_12]: You know,
13:31 --> 13:39 [SPEAKER_12]: cool, but then the next track, I don't remember exactly the order, but the next track might be more cruey than that, right, more soulful.
13:39 --> 13:41 [SPEAKER_12]: So yeah, I like this one.
13:41 --> 13:42 [SPEAKER_12]: This is one of my favorites in this set.
13:43 --> 13:44 [SPEAKER_12]: I would say though, it's not going to win.
13:44 --> 13:45 [SPEAKER_21]: I want it to win.
13:45 --> 13:46 [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.
13:46 --> 13:49 [SPEAKER_21]: It's when I was one of my favorite albums, just because it was so unexpected for me.
13:49 --> 14:03 [SPEAKER_21]: And I think a lot of the covers and the album covers and the arts around in this album was really interesting and very conceptual and old school jazz, soul type of aesthetic.
14:04 --> 14:07 [SPEAKER_21]: That really goes back to this idea that it is...
14:07 --> 14:10 [SPEAKER_21]: an interpretation of like his mother's story.
14:10 --> 14:12 [SPEAKER_21]: And I just, I, I really liked it.
14:12 --> 14:14 [SPEAKER_21]: There were so many great collaborations on here.
14:14 --> 14:20 [SPEAKER_21]: One song that I loved, darling eye, featuring Tizo Touchdown.
14:20 --> 14:22 [SPEAKER_17]: It's about that great, her finally come.
14:22 --> 14:24 [SPEAKER_17]: At least I felt something.
14:24 --> 14:27 [SPEAKER_17]: If I ain't fine with one, nobody could fulfill me like this music shit does.
14:27 --> 14:30 [SPEAKER_17]: So I'd be lonely with these grannies when it's all set and dark.
14:32 --> 14:32 [SPEAKER_17]: Oh my God, I don't want to keep it.
14:36 --> 14:55 [SPEAKER_21]: I was just so different than what you would expect from a rap album or Tyler, the creator, and general, and the collaboration was really, really strong here that the rap section stood out and like modernized, but it was really like a soulful vibe.
14:55 --> 14:57 [SPEAKER_21]: I just really liked that juxtaposition.
14:57 --> 14:59 [SPEAKER_21]: Nice throughout this whole album, for sure.
14:59 --> 15:00 [SPEAKER_21]: Cool.
15:00 --> 15:07 [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, I mean, I'd be happy if he wins, but I would say the Vegas dots have him at plus 1400.
15:07 --> 15:09 [SPEAKER_12]: Well, he'll win something which is the fifth.
15:10 --> 15:11 [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, I think he will.
15:11 --> 15:11 [SPEAKER_12]: He's up for six.
15:12 --> 15:13 [SPEAKER_12]: He'll probably win one of those.
15:13 --> 15:15 [SPEAKER_21]: I mean, imagine if you won best rap in best alternative.
15:16 --> 15:18 [SPEAKER_21]: I think he'll probably win best rap album.
15:18 --> 15:22 [SPEAKER_12]: Well, he there's some competition there, which we're going to talk about very soon.
15:22 --> 15:22 [SPEAKER_12]: Oh, yeah.
15:22 --> 15:27 [SPEAKER_12]: So that's fifth, by the way, that's ranked fifth out of the age in terms of the odds.
15:27 --> 15:28 [SPEAKER_12]: So yeah, we'll see.
15:29 --> 15:29 [SPEAKER_12]: Right.
15:29 --> 15:29 [SPEAKER_12]: Some fingers.
15:30 --> 15:32 [SPEAKER_12]: Definitely one in the top few for me.
15:32 --> 15:33 [SPEAKER_12]: Ready for the next one?
15:33 --> 15:33 [SPEAKER_12]: Yes.
15:33 --> 15:36 [SPEAKER_12]: Lady Gaga mayhem released in 2025.
15:38 --> 15:40 [SPEAKER_12]: She's got some previous Grammys.
15:40 --> 15:41 [SPEAKER_12]: Yes.
15:41 --> 15:49 [SPEAKER_12]: 14, but never one of the big ones, like song of the year or album of the year, at least as far as my count.
15:49 --> 15:49 [SPEAKER_12]: Really?
15:49 --> 15:51 [SPEAKER_12]: She's been nominated for those, though.
15:52 --> 15:55 [SPEAKER_12]: I think she might have got best new artist, but I don't remember.
15:55 --> 15:55 [SPEAKER_12]: I didn't write that down.
15:56 --> 15:58 [SPEAKER_12]: This year, she's up for seven, though.
15:58 --> 16:10 [SPEAKER_12]: So this one album of the year, record of the year, song of the year, best dance pop recording, best pop vocal album, best pop solo performance, and best
16:10 --> 16:12 [SPEAKER_21]: whatever that means.
16:12 --> 16:15 [SPEAKER_12]: Who else is up for that being crossed me like I was weird.
16:15 --> 16:16 [SPEAKER_21]: Is there a best tour?
16:16 --> 16:17 [SPEAKER_12]: I don't know.
16:17 --> 16:18 [SPEAKER_12]: Not that I've heard it.
16:18 --> 16:21 [SPEAKER_21]: I think like I heard or someone has like a best tour or.
16:21 --> 16:21 [SPEAKER_12]: Sure.
16:22 --> 16:27 [SPEAKER_21]: And the mayhem, the tour for mayhem was so I heard was so so theatrical.
16:27 --> 16:27 [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.
16:28 --> 16:30 [SPEAKER_12]: And she'd be up against the era's tour, though.
16:31 --> 16:32 [SPEAKER_12]: And the Oasis tour.
16:32 --> 16:33 [SPEAKER_12]: That was a great story.
16:33 --> 16:40 [SPEAKER_21]: But like people are saying like this tour should be nominated for Tony Award because it was such like a
16:40 --> 16:47 [SPEAKER_21]: So, I think that Lady Gaga's so theatrical has such a like a cult fall and I'm not even a cult following a very mainstream following.
16:48 --> 16:51 [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, I don't think we need to talk background info on Lady Gaga.
16:51 --> 16:53 [SPEAKER_21]: Also, I hated it.
16:53 --> 16:54 [SPEAKER_12]: You hated it.
16:54 --> 16:56 [SPEAKER_21]: I was not, I was not for me.
16:56 --> 16:58 [SPEAKER_21]: I like Lady Gaga as like a concept.
16:59 --> 17:01 [SPEAKER_21]: But I didn't like this album, so sorry.
17:01 --> 17:02 [SPEAKER_21]: I wanted to.
17:02 --> 17:04 [SPEAKER_21]: It was just too much for me.
17:04 --> 17:05 [SPEAKER_21]: I just too dissonant.
17:05 --> 17:06 [SPEAKER_21]: I couldn't get into it.
17:06 --> 17:10 [SPEAKER_12]: So that's interesting because like, okay, I'm kind of a two minds on it.
17:10 --> 17:10 [SPEAKER_12]: I did not hate it.
17:11 --> 17:15 [SPEAKER_12]: It's in the bottom half of the eight for me, but there are parts of it.
17:15 --> 17:30 [SPEAKER_12]: And I think this is why it's so kind of acclaimed, critically, is there are parts of it that are really looking back to the fame monster, like her early stuff where she was like this new artist on the scene that everybody was taking notice is this kind of new take on the sort of Madonna vibe.
17:31 --> 17:34 [SPEAKER_12]: And so the singles on this record are disease,
17:34 --> 17:40 [SPEAKER_12]: Plus, also, die with a smile is on this album, even though that was released before.
17:40 --> 17:43 [SPEAKER_12]: That was actually up for song of the year or record of the year last year.
17:44 --> 17:46 [SPEAKER_12]: And then dead dance was added later to the album.
17:46 --> 17:48 [SPEAKER_12]: So, but this is what Aberka Dabra sounds like.
17:48 --> 17:52 [SPEAKER_12]: And you're going to hear kind of an old school Gaga vibe.
18:14 --> 18:16 [SPEAKER_12]: It sounds so much like opera to from later.
18:16 --> 18:20 [SPEAKER_21]: This is my 11 year old hip hop song.
18:20 --> 18:20 [SPEAKER_12]: Okay.
18:20 --> 18:21 [SPEAKER_21]: Dance class.
18:21 --> 18:21 [SPEAKER_12]: Oh, yeah.
18:22 --> 18:24 [SPEAKER_12]: So, well, that maybe that's maybe that says something.
18:24 --> 18:25 [SPEAKER_19]: It's like something.
18:25 --> 18:32 [SPEAKER_12]: I think in this song hit number 13, but I, to me, oh, I'm going to, I'm going to give some acclaims in a minute.
18:32 --> 18:37 [SPEAKER_12]: But that song feels a bit like someone spoofing Lady Gaga.
18:37 --> 18:51 [SPEAKER_21]: I don't like, I feel like she's so talented and she has such her voice like if you just stripped down her voice, there's so much depth and grit and like the tone is so lovely and it you don't hear that in Abercadabra.
18:51 --> 18:52 [SPEAKER_21]: It's just to give me.
18:52 --> 18:54 [SPEAKER_21]: I feel like it's just the throw away.
18:54 --> 18:56 [SPEAKER_21]: Here's a lady Gaga song.
18:55 --> 18:59 [SPEAKER_12]: So for me, I definitely liked the middle of this record.
18:59 --> 19:02 [SPEAKER_12]: So there's several songs on this album that are very industrial.
19:02 --> 19:04 [SPEAKER_21]: And that's the little ones I don't like.
19:04 --> 19:06 [SPEAKER_12]: 90s, 90s nails almost vibe in.
19:07 --> 19:11 [SPEAKER_12]: And some songs I liked, the dead dance, zombie boy vanishing to you.
19:12 --> 19:12 [SPEAKER_12]: It's like this middle.
19:13 --> 19:21 [SPEAKER_12]: And here's can't stop the high, which is another one that I feel like captured this sort of industrial vibe that I actually really liked.
19:24 --> 19:41 [SPEAKER_14]: You might take me home I gotta feel it in there I won't be alone Electric Venom Yeah, it's rockin' we too Oh, oh, oh I gotta feel it in there for DJ My take me home
19:42 --> 19:46 [SPEAKER_12]: And it doesn't feel like it's forcing a certain, hey, it's a return to Gaga.
19:47 --> 19:50 [SPEAKER_12]: Like it has kind of new things she doesn't often do, but it feels old at the same time.
19:51 --> 19:56 [SPEAKER_12]: There's some of those songs that I really liked, but some of it, yeah, didn't quite feel natural enough.
19:56 --> 20:03 [SPEAKER_12]: So I'm, this is middle low for me in the eight, but I just didn't like how, no.
20:03 --> 20:09 [SPEAKER_21]: When you look at some of the other albums, they were more cohesive and told more of a story than this album did.
20:10 --> 20:13 [SPEAKER_21]: And I just generally like that in albums.
20:14 --> 20:26 [SPEAKER_21]: And this felt like all over the place to me, like you have died with a smile against some like industrialized, like nine-inch nails, type of things, and some old classic Lady Gaga felt like a cover of a Lady Gaga song, and some cases like...
20:26 --> 20:32 [SPEAKER_21]: It just seems, all the songs were good, stand alone, but when you listen to it as an album, it wasn't cohesive enough for me.
20:32 --> 20:37 [SPEAKER_21]: And I think in this category, that's what I would be looking for, is like an album.
20:37 --> 20:41 [SPEAKER_21]: It's not just a single song or how it's produced.
20:41 --> 20:46 [SPEAKER_21]: It's like how the arc of the album and this just, while great,
20:47 --> 20:50 [SPEAKER_21]: And we'll give Gaga her flowers, like she's awesome.
20:50 --> 20:53 [SPEAKER_21]: This just didn't do it for me in this category.
20:53 --> 20:56 [SPEAKER_12]: Where do you think she is in terms of the ranking of Vegas?
20:57 --> 20:59 [SPEAKER_21]: Vegas, I think she's probably pretty high because it's really Gaga.
20:59 --> 21:00 [SPEAKER_12]: So she's plus 200.
21:01 --> 21:01 [SPEAKER_21]: Yeah.
21:01 --> 21:03 [SPEAKER_12]: So pretty good.
21:03 --> 21:09 [SPEAKER_12]: She's not more likely than the field, but definitely up there, that's second of all the people.
21:09 --> 21:16 [SPEAKER_12]: She's the second most likely according to the Vegas all it's right now, as of our recording, which is a few days before the episode comes out.
21:16 --> 21:36 [SPEAKER_12]: like as we get I'm sure change like if one well so it may not change I don't know when they do the voting but like if if something happened with one of these artists that made everybody hate them I bet the odds would change right but I don't know it's probably too late the voting started happened but I believe the Vegas odds change because I think the Vegas odds also change based on the money right so if
21:36 --> 21:42 [SPEAKER_12]: Let's say Tyler, the creator's album starts out as an unlikely thing, and then tons of people love those odds.
21:42 --> 21:46 [SPEAKER_12]: They go, wow, I'm going to make a ton of money because that album is super underrated.
21:46 --> 21:49 [SPEAKER_12]: And people start betting millions of dollars on that album.
21:50 --> 21:52 [SPEAKER_12]: The odds of that album winning will change.
21:52 --> 21:53 [SPEAKER_12]: Like the odds, the line will shift.
21:54 --> 21:55 [SPEAKER_12]: I think according to how much money is on it.
21:55 --> 21:56 [SPEAKER_21]: I'm obviously not a gambler.
21:56 --> 21:58 [SPEAKER_21]: Well, not a money.
21:58 --> 22:01 [SPEAKER_12]: So I've heard, all right, shall we?
22:01 --> 22:01 [SPEAKER_21]: Yeah, let's go.
22:02 --> 22:03 [SPEAKER_12]: Next up is clips.
22:03 --> 22:06 [SPEAKER_12]: The album Let God Sort of Out, which was released in 2025.
22:08 --> 22:16 [SPEAKER_12]: So previous Grammys for clips, there's really just one a collab they did with Justin Timberlake in 2003, like I love you.
22:16 --> 22:19 [SPEAKER_12]: And that was best rap slash song collaboration.
22:19 --> 22:20 [SPEAKER_12]: And they didn't win.
22:30 --> 22:52 [SPEAKER_24]: Yeah, it's been 18 years since their last album, which is wild because they broke they broke up in like 2009, right, and these these are two brothers right, so this is their reunion
22:52 --> 22:53 [SPEAKER_12]: We're actually going to talk.
22:53 --> 22:56 [SPEAKER_12]: We're going to talk family bands in an upcoming episode.
22:56 --> 22:59 [SPEAKER_12]: These guys are definitely someone to consider.
22:59 --> 23:00 [SPEAKER_12]: There are two brothers from virginia beats.
23:00 --> 23:05 [SPEAKER_12]: So they're kind of in the feral and the Neptune's or the feral actually produced this.
23:06 --> 23:06 [SPEAKER_00]: He did.
23:07 --> 23:08 [SPEAKER_12]: Though the Neptune's didn't.
23:08 --> 23:12 [SPEAKER_12]: You can so hear that even in that song with the like flat two cord happening.
23:12 --> 23:14 [SPEAKER_12]: This year they're up for five though.
23:14 --> 23:18 [SPEAKER_12]: So you say like they broke up years ago and came back.
23:18 --> 23:20 [SPEAKER_12]: They came back with a vengeance in terms of critical acclaim.
23:20 --> 23:30 [SPEAKER_12]: So they're up for album of the year, best rap album, best rap performance, which is the song Chains and Whips, best rap song, the birds don't sing, and best music video, so be it.
23:30 --> 23:32 [SPEAKER_12]: So it's all split, kind of.
23:32 --> 23:32 [SPEAKER_21]: It's true.
23:32 --> 23:43 [SPEAKER_21]: And the thing with this album is they have so many guest spots and collaborators like John Legend, Kendrick Lamar, Naz, the dream, Tyler, the creators, also on this album.
23:43 --> 23:46 [SPEAKER_21]: Yeah, for all the courses and their tales all over the place.
23:46 --> 23:52 [SPEAKER_21]: So, they definitely have clout in the industry and can pull big names.
23:52 --> 23:54 [SPEAKER_21]: And that song with St. James was a hit.
23:54 --> 23:56 [SPEAKER_21]: Like, it was a great, great song.
23:57 --> 23:58 [SPEAKER_21]: One of my favorite songs of the whole year.
23:58 --> 24:13 [SPEAKER_02]: I just like loved it.
24:16 --> 24:18 [SPEAKER_21]: And I don't think they're going to win.
24:19 --> 24:24 [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, you know, not to fast forward too much, because we can talk a little bit about overalls on this, too.
24:24 --> 24:27 [SPEAKER_12]: But yeah, the Vegas dogs on this one are plus 1600.
24:27 --> 24:31 [SPEAKER_12]: So they're tied for sixth, which is to say they are sixth and seventh.
24:31 --> 24:33 [SPEAKER_12]: There's only one less likely album.
24:33 --> 24:37 [SPEAKER_12]: I don't think they're going to win, but I also, like, so I like this album.
24:38 --> 24:41 [SPEAKER_12]: I think I don't know that I get it yet.
24:41 --> 24:45 [SPEAKER_12]: So like I like a lot of the songs, changed whips is cool, so be it.
24:45 --> 24:48 [SPEAKER_12]: The singles honestly, the singles they chose are all pretty hot songs.
24:48 --> 24:51 [SPEAKER_12]: This is actually, this is ace trumpets, which I love this.
24:52 --> 24:58 [SPEAKER_12]: This is culturally inappropriate sample that keeps looping because that comes back later in the album also, but here is ace trumpets.
24:58 --> 25:02 [SPEAKER_02]: Balorinas, doing pirouettes inside of my snow globe.
25:03 --> 25:06 [SPEAKER_02]: Shopping's breezing so whole, you had to see it.
25:06 --> 25:09 [SPEAKER_02]: Strip a shaking ass and watchin' the dough blow.
25:09 --> 25:11 [SPEAKER_02]: Ace trumpets and rolls, mows.
25:12 --> 25:17 [SPEAKER_02]: Pin-a-al-evacca, pan-o-maw fishing village visiting with Papa.
25:17 --> 25:28 [SPEAKER_21]: And you have to think if it's been 18 years since their last album together, this is really generously 18 years of writing and 18 years of content that they've been waiting to put together.
25:28 --> 25:43 [SPEAKER_12]: Sure, I mean they've been doing solo stuff and like there's a lot of guessing like I feel like push a tea in particular will show up on people songs, but yeah, there's got to be a lot of like loading of the deck kind of behind the right load of the best work of the last decade.
25:42 --> 25:43 [SPEAKER_12]: And it's cool.
25:43 --> 25:46 [SPEAKER_12]: I just, there's a lot of lyrical references in there.
25:47 --> 25:49 [SPEAKER_12]: This is less adventurous from an arrangement standpoint.
25:49 --> 26:00 [SPEAKER_12]: Then the Tyler album, for example, even though we heard some interesting shifting there in that last song, I just don't know that without listening to it more, I get enough of the lyrical references.
26:00 --> 26:01 [SPEAKER_12]: There's like,
26:01 --> 26:07 [SPEAKER_12]: Kanye Dissis in there, there's all sorts of stuff going on, that is just, I'll say I've only heard this album once.
26:07 --> 26:13 [SPEAKER_12]: So it's just a lot of it's over my head in terms of the, I think what it's trying to do thematically.
26:13 --> 26:18 [SPEAKER_12]: So personally, that's not one of my favorites, but I liked what I heard.
26:18 --> 26:21 [SPEAKER_12]: I don't think they're going to win though.
26:22 --> 26:28 [SPEAKER_12]: It's just this competition, especially in the
26:28 --> 26:34 [SPEAKER_12]: Just, I mean, I think them in general, maybe that term would say like the drug dealing references and stuff like that.
26:34 --> 26:35 [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.
26:35 --> 26:40 [SPEAKER_21]: And I just think that I love to see the rap genre advancing past those stereotypes.
26:41 --> 26:41 [SPEAKER_21]: Just gently.
26:41 --> 26:43 [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.
26:43 --> 27:04 [SPEAKER_12]: no comment on that up because these are these are guys also from an earlier era right yeah this isn't an up-and-coming rapper it's like i i feel like nobody's surprise or disappointed by a weed reference in a snoop dog song you know i mean because it's a part of his brand like these guys yeah these guys that's kind of a part of what they do i'm not saying like they couldn't advance to different topics or whatever but
27:04 --> 27:05 [SPEAKER_12]: They are what they are.
27:05 --> 27:06 [SPEAKER_12]: They represent what they represent.
27:07 --> 27:09 [SPEAKER_12]: And I'm not, I'm not a big aficionado of clips.
27:09 --> 27:10 [SPEAKER_12]: I don't know their music really well.
27:10 --> 27:11 [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.
27:11 --> 27:14 [SPEAKER_12]: Aside from just the stuff that you know, was popular back in the day.
27:14 --> 27:19 [SPEAKER_21]: It's interesting to hear about like their brotherhood and their family background and yeah, I don't know anything about all that.
27:19 --> 27:20 [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.
27:20 --> 27:22 [SPEAKER_12]: And like one, what they done, break up, etc.
27:22 --> 27:30 [SPEAKER_21]: So if you do, if you're a clips officionado, please write in and share some knowledge with us because I think I'm for sure like ignorant to this genre.
27:31 --> 27:32 [SPEAKER_21]: And I'd like not to
27:45 --> 27:46 [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, cool.
27:46 --> 27:50 [SPEAKER_12]: Speaking of this genre, Kendrick Lamar G and X is up.
27:50 --> 27:50 [SPEAKER_12]: This is 2024.
27:52 --> 27:55 [SPEAKER_12]: He's got a lot of Grammys previously.
27:56 --> 28:01 [SPEAKER_12]: So 22 total awards, which is third by a rapper all time.
28:01 --> 28:04 [SPEAKER_12]: So could you guess other rappers?
28:04 --> 28:06 [SPEAKER_12]: You don't have to give the order or whatever.
28:06 --> 28:15 [SPEAKER_12]: If he has 22 total awards, who else is in the top five for total awards by a rapper?
28:17 --> 28:23 [SPEAKER_21]: Probably, Jupac, am I close?
28:23 --> 28:24 [SPEAKER_12]: You got one.
28:24 --> 28:25 [SPEAKER_12]: So number one is Jay Z.
28:25 --> 28:25 [SPEAKER_12]: Okay.
28:25 --> 28:26 [SPEAKER_12]: So you've got 25.
28:26 --> 28:26 [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.
28:27 --> 28:28 [SPEAKER_12]: Kanye.
28:28 --> 28:29 [SPEAKER_21]: Oh yeah.
28:29 --> 28:30 [SPEAKER_21]: I always like block out Kanye.
28:30 --> 28:31 [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, all right.
28:31 --> 28:33 [SPEAKER_12]: Kanye doesn't exist for some people.
28:33 --> 28:34 [SPEAKER_12]: So it's hard to counsel.
28:34 --> 28:36 [SPEAKER_21]: I just like itself preservation.
28:36 --> 28:37 [SPEAKER_12]: Kendrick is three with number 22.
28:37 --> 28:38 [SPEAKER_12]: M&M 15.
28:38 --> 28:39 [SPEAKER_21]: Okay, right.
28:39 --> 28:43 [SPEAKER_12]: And then the one that surprises me is Farell with 13.
28:43 --> 28:52 [SPEAKER_12]: I, I would have to look, but it says producing algorithmic data might be that or it might be some songs that are very much him not as a rapper because he's such a multifaceted performer.
28:52 --> 28:56 [SPEAKER_21]: Even to, I don't even think when I think of rappers, I don't think of forl.
28:56 --> 28:56 [SPEAKER_12]: Right.
28:56 --> 28:57 [SPEAKER_12]: He is though.
28:57 --> 29:00 [SPEAKER_12]: I bet he's also a singer and a producer.
29:00 --> 29:01 [SPEAKER_12]: So it's kind of like, whereas.
29:01 --> 29:03 [SPEAKER_12]: When you see 25 J.Z.
29:03 --> 29:07 [SPEAKER_12]: Grammys, you can probably rest assured that a lot of them are hip-hop.
29:08 --> 29:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
29:08 --> 29:09 [SPEAKER_12]: And for L, maybe not, a lot of it might be pop.
29:10 --> 29:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
29:10 --> 29:18 [SPEAKER_12]: Also, I'll note that from a career trajectory, even just age-wise, I think Kendrick's going to get a pass, J.Z.
29:18 --> 29:19 [SPEAKER_19]: How old is he now?
29:20 --> 29:21 [SPEAKER_19]: Do we know?
29:22 --> 29:22 [SPEAKER_19]: Is it known?
29:22 --> 29:23 [SPEAKER_12]: He's younger than us.
29:24 --> 29:24 [SPEAKER_12]: What?
29:24 --> 29:26 [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, he's a millennial.
29:26 --> 29:27 [SPEAKER_12]: He's a high millennial, I think.
29:27 --> 29:29 [SPEAKER_19]: A high millennial.
29:29 --> 29:30 [SPEAKER_12]: He's 38.
29:30 --> 29:30 [SPEAKER_19]: Okay.
29:31 --> 29:33 [SPEAKER_12]: He's 38 and Jay-Z's got to be in his 50s.
29:34 --> 29:38 [SPEAKER_12]: And then I'm saying Kanye's, I think probably around our age, right?
29:38 --> 29:41 [SPEAKER_12]: And then, for L, maybe the same age as him.
29:41 --> 29:45 [SPEAKER_12]: But I just feel like Kendrick might have another decade more.
29:45 --> 29:50 [SPEAKER_12]: I'm not saying Jay-Z doesn't have another decade of career, but Kendrick might have a decade past whatever Jay-Z's career is, right?
29:51 --> 29:55 [SPEAKER_12]: Just based on actuarial tables and math basically.
29:55 --> 29:59 [SPEAKER_21]: I'm not going to say, Kendrick Lamar is my first choice of music.
29:59 --> 30:04 [SPEAKER_21]: I would listen to on my own accord, like, and that's not despite anything.
30:04 --> 30:11 [SPEAKER_21]: It's just not what I would usually go to, but I really appreciate Kendrick Lamar and his literary ability.
30:11 --> 30:15 [SPEAKER_21]: I like that he takes poetry classes to try to develop his craft.
30:15 --> 30:16 [SPEAKER_21]: I think that that's really cool.
30:16 --> 30:17 [SPEAKER_12]: I didn't know that.
30:17 --> 30:18 [SPEAKER_21]: He's like a real academic.
30:18 --> 30:19 [SPEAKER_21]: He's a poet.
30:19 --> 30:44 [SPEAKER_21]: So I like to do one the Pulitzer right and it's not my accident right he has chops like academic chops that I think is often overlooked because of maybe stereotypes people have against the genre against him but he's a very very intelligent and really eager to advance the craft of rap as poetry and I just generally think that that's really really cool and healthy.
30:44 --> 30:49 [SPEAKER_21]: I also know that Barack Obama really likes Kendrick Lamar, so I really like him more.
30:49 --> 30:53 [SPEAKER_12]: So last year he like cleaned up at the Grammys, right?
30:53 --> 30:58 [SPEAKER_12]: He run record of the year, song of the year, best rap performance, best rap song, and best music video all for not like us.
30:59 --> 31:01 [SPEAKER_12]: That's how much the critics hate Drake.
31:02 --> 31:05 [SPEAKER_12]: This year I forgot to write him all down, but he's up for nine.
31:06 --> 31:08 [SPEAKER_12]: So I think he's up for more than any of these other artists.
31:09 --> 31:11 [SPEAKER_12]: I am a fan of Kendrick Lamar.
31:11 --> 31:12 [SPEAKER_12]: I was living.
31:12 --> 31:16 [SPEAKER_12]: I was going to school in South L.A. when he came up.
31:16 --> 31:17 [SPEAKER_12]: And that's where he's from.
31:17 --> 31:18 [SPEAKER_12]: He's from my constant area.
31:18 --> 31:20 [SPEAKER_12]: And so he was just kind of everywhere.
31:20 --> 31:27 [SPEAKER_12]: Those first two albums were very much like catnip for millennial grad student in music hip-hop.
31:27 --> 31:27 [SPEAKER_12]: Right.
31:27 --> 31:30 [SPEAKER_12]: There's something about how smart everything was from an arrangement perspective.
31:30 --> 31:31 [SPEAKER_12]: The songs are so cool.
31:32 --> 31:35 [SPEAKER_12]: This is his fifth album to hit number one on the Billboard Hot 100.
31:36 --> 31:36 [SPEAKER_12]: G&L.
31:36 --> 31:37 [SPEAKER_12]: G&L.
31:37 --> 31:40 [SPEAKER_12]: Named after his Buick Grand National Experimental.
31:41 --> 31:43 [SPEAKER_12]: There are no Drake feud songs on this record though.
31:43 --> 31:45 [SPEAKER_12]: So I think he's over it.
31:45 --> 31:45 [SPEAKER_12]: He's over it.
31:46 --> 31:46 [SPEAKER_12]: He won.
31:46 --> 31:47 [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, he won.
31:47 --> 31:49 [SPEAKER_12]: Have you heard of Drake since then?
31:48 --> 31:50 [SPEAKER_21]: Not anywhere.
31:50 --> 31:52 [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, so of note.
31:52 --> 31:52 [SPEAKER_12]: Is he still around?
31:52 --> 31:53 [SPEAKER_12]: I don't know.
31:53 --> 31:54 [SPEAKER_12]: So singles on this one.
31:54 --> 32:08 [SPEAKER_12]: We got squabble up which at number one TV off hit number two big disappointment poor peekaboo only hit number 13 and you mentioned 90s throwback Luther a collab with Sizzah hit number one.
32:08 --> 32:10 [SPEAKER_12]: This is what that sounds like and I love this song
32:30 --> 32:41 [SPEAKER_21]: The voice is sound so good together like in a way that's unexpected and just like they just like find each other and like this locking key situation in my ear.
32:41 --> 32:46 [SPEAKER_12]: He has a very abrasive delivery in a lot of cases, but yeah, he sounds great with it.
32:46 --> 32:48 [SPEAKER_12]: That's on this like.
32:48 --> 32:50 [SPEAKER_12]: It's a Kendrick ballot and it's super hot.
32:50 --> 32:50 [SPEAKER_12]: It's great.
32:51 --> 32:52 [SPEAKER_12]: TV off is a bang, or though.
32:52 --> 32:55 [SPEAKER_12]: It's kind of like a sequel to not like us, music lead to me.
32:55 --> 32:58 [SPEAKER_12]: The other stuff I loved on this, so I like this album a lot.
32:58 --> 33:01 [SPEAKER_12]: This is probably my favorite of the ones.
33:01 --> 33:03 [SPEAKER_12]: And I think this is also fast forward.
33:04 --> 33:07 [SPEAKER_12]: Vegas odds have this at plus 100, which is even money.
33:07 --> 33:16 [SPEAKER_12]: You've had a hundred, but you get a hundred, that's the first place, most likely, and I can't help but feel lame to say I agree and I kind of think it will win.
33:16 --> 33:22 [SPEAKER_12]: But if it does win, maybe we need to stop telling Kendrick Lamar how awesome he is, because he's got to peel it.
33:22 --> 33:29 [SPEAKER_12]: He gets it, maybe he can just like, maybe you should make a crappy album or something, or a great album and everybody can just be like,
33:29 --> 33:30 [SPEAKER_12]: That's okay.
33:30 --> 33:39 [SPEAKER_21]: Well, he's kind of becoming like a well, he's very talented on his own, but now it's people are other talented people are like, Matt, he's magnetizing them towards him.
33:39 --> 33:41 [SPEAKER_21]: Like, he's got for all producing for him.
33:41 --> 33:46 [SPEAKER_21]: He's got, or not, for all he's got Jack and so even Jack and Jack and Jack and it's an awesome area.
33:46 --> 33:46 [SPEAKER_21]: So,
33:46 --> 34:11 [SPEAKER_21]: taking a break from Tatei from Sabrina this year that's right well yeah he's he's popping up a few times today so these are great producers so now it's like we know Kendrick's good the Pulitzer has clout right yeah so he's attracting all these top producers to work with him too and that's only making his music stronger when it already was very very strong because he has just raw talent and he works at his craft totally admirable
34:11 --> 34:19 [SPEAKER_12]: So what I liked about this album also in particular is there's a lot of things that seem referential to the music industry and music history even.
34:20 --> 34:38 [SPEAKER_12]: So like, here's a song reincarnated, which is like this awesome mix of aggressive vocals with a beautiful backing instrumentation that's making all these references to black music history and stuff like that, that it's kind of just keeps going with all sorts of changes and perspective and stuff like that.
34:38 --> 34:58 [SPEAKER_00]: I've never done life in past me, yes a black woman in a chicken circuit So Dr. vocalist, that's the promoter, hit the curtains My voice was sent genics straight from heaven, the crowd stopped A musical genius, what the articles and for stars Had everything I wanted but I come scrape addiction, heroin, needles, I mean, a fetal position, which fit it Turned on my family, I went wherever cameras be Co-king
34:58 --> 35:06 [SPEAKER_12]: And there's other tunes like that like Gloria I think is another one where they're referencing the music industry and music almost music history at a level.
35:07 --> 35:14 [SPEAKER_12]: And there's a song by the Dodgers or at least referencing and it was kind of herds, you know, come on then, come on, but, but, uh,
35:14 --> 35:14 [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.
35:14 --> 35:15 [SPEAKER_12]: So I like this album.
35:15 --> 35:16 [SPEAKER_12]: I don't know where you're at with it.
35:17 --> 35:18 [SPEAKER_12]: This is probably my favorite.
35:18 --> 35:22 [SPEAKER_12]: And so when you mention Tyler, maybe winning best rap.
35:22 --> 35:23 [SPEAKER_12]: I'm like, I don't know.
35:23 --> 35:24 [SPEAKER_12]: You think it'd be hard to beat.
35:24 --> 35:25 [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.
35:25 --> 35:25 [SPEAKER_12]: Because it's sweet.
35:26 --> 35:27 [SPEAKER_12]: Unless people are over it.
35:27 --> 35:32 [SPEAKER_12]: You know how people around torture's poets were kind of like, like, okay, we get it Taylor.
35:32 --> 35:33 [SPEAKER_12]: We're kind of mad at you now.
35:33 --> 35:34 [SPEAKER_21]: Like.
35:34 --> 35:37 [SPEAKER_12]: I, that could eventually happen with Kendrick.
35:37 --> 35:50 [SPEAKER_21]: I hope not, but well, the thing about torture poets versus this album, which is weird comparison, is torture poets was very indulgent, very messed up, and very like writing focused, and it was just a brain dump.
35:50 --> 35:55 [SPEAKER_21]: So that's why a lot of people that aren't like true Taylor Swift fans, I think we're like we're over it like too much.
35:56 --> 35:58 [SPEAKER_21]: But this still has like thoughtful commentary.
35:58 --> 36:04 [SPEAKER_21]: I think people are happy that he's moved on from this Drake feud like and we're getting more information from him.
36:05 --> 36:06 [SPEAKER_21]: So do I think it's going to win?
36:06 --> 36:08 [SPEAKER_21]: Maybe I don't really want it to.
36:08 --> 36:11 [SPEAKER_21]: There's other albums that I'd prefer to see elevated.
36:11 --> 36:15 [SPEAKER_21]: But this was a very good album and Kendrick's very, very, very good.
36:15 --> 36:18 [SPEAKER_21]: And like I'm ready for someone else.
36:18 --> 36:18 [SPEAKER_21]: Okay.
36:18 --> 36:19 [SPEAKER_21]: You know.
36:19 --> 36:19 [SPEAKER_21]: All right.
36:19 --> 36:20 [SPEAKER_21]: That's for our math.
36:20 --> 36:20 [SPEAKER_12]: So we'll see.
36:20 --> 36:21 [SPEAKER_12]: So we'll see.
36:21 --> 36:21 [SPEAKER_12]: We'll see.
36:21 --> 36:23 [SPEAKER_12]: Next up is
36:23 --> 36:50 [SPEAKER_12]: randomly determined swag from twenty twenty five by Justin Bieber now previous Grammys for who's seen he's one twice where are you now in twenty sixteen one best dance electronic recording and ten thousand hours in twenty twenty one with Dan and Shay one best country duo group performance do you know the song can you play it i do not know the song i bet you have heard it i know
36:51 --> 37:12 [SPEAKER_06]: Close your eyes, tell me what are you dreaming, everything I wanna know it all Let's spend 10 hours, and 10 more Oh, if that's what it takes to learn, that's sweet heart of yours
37:13 --> 37:16 [SPEAKER_21]: I, I think love Justin Bieber.
37:16 --> 37:16 [SPEAKER_21]: I'm sorry.
37:16 --> 37:21 [SPEAKER_12]: I'm sorry if it's tacky and could that song be any any more overproduced.
37:21 --> 37:24 [SPEAKER_21]: So something about it, something, no man, something about his voice.
37:25 --> 37:26 [SPEAKER_21]: Like it's comforting.
37:26 --> 37:27 [SPEAKER_21]: It's so weird.
37:27 --> 37:31 [SPEAKER_21]: I like such an emotional reaction to Justin Bieber's voice.
37:31 --> 37:34 [SPEAKER_21]: It might be be Beber fever like maybe I caught Beber fever, but
37:34 --> 37:35 [SPEAKER_12]: clinical.
37:35 --> 37:35 [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.
37:35 --> 37:37 [SPEAKER_21]: It's probably subclinical.
37:37 --> 37:38 [SPEAKER_12]: Okay.
37:38 --> 37:40 [SPEAKER_21]: A student in my class has Bieber fever like hard.
37:40 --> 37:42 [SPEAKER_21]: In fact, I'll give a shout out to Tatum.
37:42 --> 37:43 [SPEAKER_21]: Thank you Tatum.
37:43 --> 37:47 [SPEAKER_21]: Because in class yesterday, I said, hey, I'm recording a Grammy episode.
37:47 --> 37:51 [SPEAKER_21]: I need content about this Justin Bieber out with what do you think?
37:51 --> 37:53 [SPEAKER_21]: I was like give me a hot 30 seconds, a tight 30 seconds.
37:54 --> 37:58 [SPEAKER_21]: They had a lot of comments that like it wasn't his best album, but it was a good album.
37:59 --> 38:01 [SPEAKER_21]: And she's worried about them.
38:01 --> 38:02 [SPEAKER_21]: This is the big takeaway.
38:03 --> 38:03 [SPEAKER_21]: It's like
38:08 --> 38:09 [SPEAKER_12]: Yikes.
38:09 --> 38:13 [SPEAKER_12]: Well, I don't want to speak ill of the struggles, but I have some thoughts about this.
38:14 --> 38:17 [SPEAKER_12]: To be clear, I only listened to Swag.
38:17 --> 38:30 [SPEAKER_12]: He released later this year, Swag II, which adds, they did this thing, imagine dragons did this, a while back where they have an album called Mercury Act One and then they added a disc to six months later.
38:30 --> 38:37 [SPEAKER_12]: It's kind of like what Taylor did with torture's poets except not the day after, it's like months later.
38:37 --> 38:42 [SPEAKER_12]: and Swag 2 was released five days after the deadline for Grammy consideration.
38:42 --> 38:44 [SPEAKER_12]: And it has mixed reviews.
38:44 --> 38:46 [SPEAKER_12]: So I'm not listening to it.
38:46 --> 38:48 [SPEAKER_12]: Did you listen to the full double day?
38:48 --> 38:48 [SPEAKER_21]: I didn't.
38:48 --> 38:52 [SPEAKER_21]: I wonder if he did that on purpose knowing Swag 1 was stronger.
38:53 --> 38:57 [SPEAKER_21]: So he put up Swi too after the Grammy deadline to like beat the system somehow.
38:57 --> 39:03 [SPEAKER_12]: So he he he he gets in the voting like before we get mad at him for the mediocre songs.
39:03 --> 39:04 [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, okay, maybe.
39:04 --> 39:07 [SPEAKER_21]: I mean, he's he's got a smart team around him.
39:07 --> 39:09 [SPEAKER_21]: So that's not an accident.
39:09 --> 39:10 [SPEAKER_12]: singles on this record.
39:10 --> 39:13 [SPEAKER_12]: Daisy's first place things you do 405.
39:14 --> 39:17 [SPEAKER_12]: What I like is the sort of more intimate songs.
39:17 --> 39:21 [SPEAKER_12]: He has these little short sort of cell phone sounding recordings throughout.
39:21 --> 39:25 [SPEAKER_12]: Glory, voice memo, zoom a house, and Daisy's has some of that intimacy.
39:26 --> 39:27 [SPEAKER_12]: This is what that sounds like.
39:35 --> 39:58 [SPEAKER_07]: It doesn't have the cell phone recording quality like a few of them, but it has the kind of more stripped down band playing soul kind of thing.
39:59 --> 40:00 [SPEAKER_12]: So you like this record.
40:00 --> 40:00 [SPEAKER_21]: I like it.
40:00 --> 40:03 [SPEAKER_21]: There are some songs I liked more than others.
40:03 --> 40:07 [SPEAKER_21]: It was really introspective for me and lyrics for really interesting and playful, which I enjoyed.
40:07 --> 40:21 [SPEAKER_21]: I like how even though his public persona is seeming really, really gritty, the tone of his voice still remains like very purely bebearing, clean and crisp, which is like a sound like himself.
40:21 --> 40:21 [SPEAKER_21]: Right.
40:21 --> 40:28 [SPEAKER_21]: And that like comforts me that like maybe he is okay because the tone,
40:28 --> 40:49 [SPEAKER_21]: Like he's okay and even there's the song you con that he like pitch shifts his I know those terms now things to you he pitch shifts up a little bit so it sounds like it's a younger beaver singing and then he like isn't his adult voice singing like the chorus or other like background harmonies I don't remember that at all and I'll find it and put up a clip.
40:51 --> 41:13 [SPEAKER_03]: It's just really nostalgic and makes me think of the challenges Justin Bieber's gone through and his career.
41:13 --> 41:21 [SPEAKER_21]: He's only like about 30 years old, he's a baby still, he's not old, and he's loved like a really intense life.
41:21 --> 41:23 [SPEAKER_12]: There's no way he's only 30 years old.
41:23 --> 41:24 [SPEAKER_21]: He's only recently enters his 30s.
41:25 --> 41:30 [SPEAKER_12]: Recently from a geologic time scale, like in the last 10 years.
41:30 --> 41:31 [SPEAKER_21]: No, he's young.
41:31 --> 41:31 [SPEAKER_12]: Okay.
41:31 --> 41:32 [SPEAKER_12]: 31.
41:32 --> 41:32 [SPEAKER_12]: Wow.
41:32 --> 41:33 [SPEAKER_12]: He is young.
41:33 --> 41:33 [SPEAKER_21]: Right.
41:33 --> 41:35 [SPEAKER_21]: He had his first hit when he was our kid's age.
41:35 --> 41:38 [SPEAKER_12]: But that was like in the, I thought that was in the arts or something.
41:38 --> 41:39 [SPEAKER_12]: And so I figured.
41:39 --> 41:40 [SPEAKER_12]: But yeah.
41:40 --> 41:40 [SPEAKER_12]: Okay.
41:40 --> 41:40 [SPEAKER_12]: Right.
41:40 --> 41:41 [SPEAKER_21]: So he still like play.
41:41 --> 41:45 [SPEAKER_21]: When you think about, you know, Kendrick having lots of rooms to grow in his career.
41:45 --> 41:47 [SPEAKER_21]: I mean, Bieber's good.
41:47 --> 41:48 [SPEAKER_21]: Not 30 years left in a career.
41:49 --> 41:49 [SPEAKER_12]: Totally.
41:49 --> 41:50 [SPEAKER_12]: He seems to keep it together.
41:50 --> 41:51 [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.
41:51 --> 41:52 [SPEAKER_12]: And I hope he does.
41:52 --> 41:52 [SPEAKER_21]: I hope he does too.
41:52 --> 41:55 [SPEAKER_21]: Because he's he is like, say what you want.
41:55 --> 41:56 [SPEAKER_21]: And I know it's so poppy.
41:56 --> 42:00 [SPEAKER_21]: Like this music is so like sugary sweet in some cases.
42:00 --> 42:13 [SPEAKER_21]: but it's good and he's he is talented and I feel a lot of empathy for his life experiences because he was swept into fame at a very, very young age and that developmentally is not appropriate.
42:13 --> 42:14 [SPEAKER_01]: It's tricky, yeah.
42:14 --> 42:21 [SPEAKER_21]: Yes, and I think the song you call and I really resonate with on this album because it's like he's trying I'm reading too much into it.
42:21 --> 42:24 [SPEAKER_21]: But it feels like he's trying to heal his inner child a little bit with his album.
42:24 --> 42:27 [SPEAKER_21]: And I think that that's healthy, generally.
42:27 --> 42:34 [SPEAKER_21]: Another great song on this album is that all I can take is when my favorite songs here, I just thought it was a cool song.
42:34 --> 42:34 [SPEAKER_21]: I really enjoyed it.
42:34 --> 42:36 [SPEAKER_21]: It was one of my favorites on this whole album.
42:36 --> 42:37 [SPEAKER_12]: So I'm not a hater.
42:38 --> 42:39 [SPEAKER_12]: I like some of his songs.
42:39 --> 42:40 [SPEAKER_18]: Yeah.
42:40 --> 42:43 [SPEAKER_12]: This is the first album of his I've listened to, though, like album.
42:43 --> 42:44 [SPEAKER_18]: Yeah.
42:44 --> 42:47 [SPEAKER_12]: And I'm sorry, but can I talk some smack?
42:47 --> 42:48 [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, of course.
42:48 --> 43:11 [SPEAKER_12]: My first impression of some of this music is like, sorry Justin, but I'm imagining he heard some intimate like 1960s soul, like he heard, sitting by the dock of the bay by Otis Redding or something with slinky electric guitar, like the stuff played by Steve Kropper on some of those records, and then he asked someone who it was and what they handed him was Ed Sheeran's album, but one that has thinking out loud on it.
43:11 --> 43:14 [SPEAKER_12]: And so it feels like he's like echoing an echo,
43:14 --> 43:24 [SPEAKER_12]: in a way that like I kind of sometimes that can be cool but there's something about it that feels a little like I don't want to say derivative but claim out of nostalgia that isn't a real nostalgia.
43:24 --> 43:26 [SPEAKER_12]: There's something about it that doesn't quite work.
43:26 --> 43:41 [SPEAKER_12]: Although I like that's on Daisy's like I like some of these tunes and look credit to Mickey who's the producer on most of this and who plays the guitar he does do a kind of Steve Crawford kind of awesome
43:41 --> 43:42 [SPEAKER_12]: But honestly, they lost me.
43:43 --> 43:51 [SPEAKER_12]: Later in the album, there's this whole bit where the comedian Jruzki talks about how black Justin sounds and I found that whole bit and it happens a few times.
43:51 --> 43:56 [SPEAKER_12]: There's references like this conversation is recorded and there's excerpts of it happening.
43:56 --> 43:57 [SPEAKER_12]: I found it so insufferable.
43:58 --> 44:01 [SPEAKER_12]: There's one point when he's literally like, your skin is white, but your soul is black.
44:02 --> 44:05 [SPEAKER_12]: Justin Bieber literally says, thank you to that.
44:05 --> 44:08 [SPEAKER_12]: And I want to be like screw you, just it.
44:08 --> 44:09 [SPEAKER_12]: That's right.
44:09 --> 44:13 [SPEAKER_12]: It's like, okay, do you know Tim Armstrong is the dude from Rancid who's also like a producer?
44:13 --> 44:14 [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.
44:14 --> 44:20 [SPEAKER_12]: This is like, if I had the, if the Slack and MX record, that's about to come out, had a clip of him saying, hey, Mark, you're so punk.
44:21 --> 44:22 [SPEAKER_12]: And I'm go, oh yeah, Tim, why?
44:22 --> 44:26 [SPEAKER_12]: And he's like, yeah, you sound like you, you're homeless kid who Hollywood Boulevard in 1984.
44:27 --> 44:29 [SPEAKER_12]: And I literally was like, thank Tim, love it.
44:29 --> 44:31 [SPEAKER_12]: I'm like, Justin, come on.
44:32 --> 44:33 [SPEAKER_18]: Yeah, you're like your Canadian girl.
44:33 --> 44:36 [SPEAKER_12]: You are a teen star from Canada.
44:36 --> 44:38 [SPEAKER_12]: You do not need to play.
44:38 --> 44:46 [SPEAKER_12]: You can have a fun conversation with a comedian where he talks about how black you are and have that guy have juice key put it in his standup routine.
44:46 --> 44:47 [SPEAKER_12]: Right.
44:47 --> 44:48 [SPEAKER_12]: You putting it on your album.
44:48 --> 44:53 [SPEAKER_12]: is like me saying my kid thinks I'm cool and having it as a bumper sticker or something.
44:53 --> 44:57 [SPEAKER_12]: It's so it's like halfway through the record and it just turned me off.
44:57 --> 44:58 [SPEAKER_12]: I'm sorry.
44:58 --> 44:59 [SPEAKER_12]: I can't be a brat.
44:59 --> 45:01 [SPEAKER_21]: I've never seen you this.
45:01 --> 45:05 [SPEAKER_12]: It feels like he self sabotaged his cool factor by doing that.
45:05 --> 45:05 [SPEAKER_12]: Right.
45:06 --> 45:07 [SPEAKER_21]: We don't have to name it.
45:07 --> 45:11 [SPEAKER_12]: You don't do an anonymous donation and then call everybody telling you you do it.
45:11 --> 45:15 [SPEAKER_12]: This will not win this should not win in my opinion because of that crap.
45:16 --> 45:19 [SPEAKER_12]: But it's actually the vague solids have it at eighth.
45:19 --> 45:20 [SPEAKER_12]: So it's plus 2.
45:20 --> 45:24 [SPEAKER_12]: So if you really think it's going to win, put a sweet 100 bucks on it, and you're going to win $22.
45:25 --> 45:26 [SPEAKER_21]: I don't think it's going to win.
45:26 --> 45:29 [SPEAKER_21]: I don't, I'd be shocked if he even shows up.
45:29 --> 45:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, wow.
45:30 --> 45:31 [SPEAKER_21]: I think that's sad.
45:31 --> 45:32 [SPEAKER_21]: Yeah.
45:32 --> 45:41 [SPEAKER_21]: I don't think Justin Bieber's like I think his music's great, but he's voice is so good that even at his worst, you can produce it to sound good.
45:42 --> 45:44 [SPEAKER_21]: That's what I think like even at his worst.
45:44 --> 45:45 [SPEAKER_12]: You don't need to.
45:45 --> 45:46 [SPEAKER_12]: His voice is good.
45:46 --> 45:46 [SPEAKER_21]: His voice is.
45:46 --> 45:48 [SPEAKER_12]: Good, but you can like the cell phone recordings are cool.
45:48 --> 45:50 [SPEAKER_12]: They're the my favorite part of the album.
45:50 --> 46:05 [SPEAKER_21]: You need to produce it to send me and like I think that that just goes to show what a talent Justin Bieber is that even when like you look at some of the stuff that the media shows us, which I know isn't real and not a whole picture that's happening in his life
46:05 --> 46:11 [SPEAKER_21]: It seems like that there's something up with Justin Bieber in a way that doesn't seem healthy and the music's still good.
46:11 --> 46:29 [SPEAKER_21]: So I really want him to get to a place that he is balanced and regulated and processed through his trauma, processed through any substance issues and just can like be stripped out and pure because he is such a, he's such a, he's such a pure talent and I'm worried about him.
46:29 --> 46:33 [SPEAKER_12]: Well, maybe you can talk me into doing a beaver episode in the future.
46:33 --> 46:36 [SPEAKER_12]: I don't know, you have to find a song that I would find something I would like.
46:37 --> 46:40 [SPEAKER_12]: But Sabrina Carpenter, man's best friend, 2025.
46:41 --> 46:49 [SPEAKER_12]: We talked a lot about the brina last year because that was kind of my first significant exposure to her.
46:49 --> 46:50 [SPEAKER_21]: And you're like, she's great.
46:50 --> 46:51 [SPEAKER_12]: And you were like, don't like her.
46:52 --> 46:54 [SPEAKER_21]: I was like, listen to her two million more times.
46:54 --> 46:54 [SPEAKER_12]: Right.
46:54 --> 46:55 [SPEAKER_12]: So.
46:55 --> 46:59 [SPEAKER_12]: Just to refer to the history here, previous Grammys, she did win two.
47:00 --> 47:03 [SPEAKER_12]: Espresso won Best Pop Solo Performance in Short and Sweet.
47:03 --> 47:09 [SPEAKER_12]: Last year's record, which was nominated for album of the year, did win Best Pop Vocal Album.
47:09 --> 47:11 [SPEAKER_12]: This year, she's up for six.
47:11 --> 47:21 [SPEAKER_12]: This one, record of the year for Man Child, song of the year, Best Pop Solo Performance, Best Music Video, Best Pop Vocal Album, and that's six.
47:21 --> 47:22 [SPEAKER_12]: What do you guys?
47:22 --> 47:24 [SPEAKER_21]: I'm going to blow your mind.
47:25 --> 47:25 [SPEAKER_21]: I love the sound.
47:25 --> 47:27 [SPEAKER_12]: You liked it because you were not a fan of short and sweet.
47:27 --> 47:30 [SPEAKER_12]: You were not a fan of her overall vibe.
47:30 --> 47:33 [SPEAKER_12]: I wasn't as the mother of a daughter.
47:33 --> 47:38 [SPEAKER_21]: Now my daughter's getting older and she's still singing along with these songs, which I still don't love.
47:38 --> 47:43 [SPEAKER_21]: Like, there are some songs that are so tongue-in-cheek and so full of a new window.
47:44 --> 47:48 [SPEAKER_21]: And now I think my daughter is starting to understand the new window, which isn't great.
47:49 --> 47:52 [SPEAKER_21]: But I just thought the production was different on the album.
47:52 --> 47:55 [SPEAKER_21]: I mean, Jack Ansonoff produced it.
47:56 --> 47:57 [SPEAKER_21]: Everything he touches is gold to me.
47:57 --> 47:59 [SPEAKER_12]: and Jack Ryan also some of it.
47:59 --> 48:03 [SPEAKER_21]: So we have an Amy Allen on the production team writing and producing.
48:03 --> 48:04 [SPEAKER_15]: Yeah.
48:04 --> 48:08 [SPEAKER_21]: So I thought that the writing on this was a little bit more subtle.
48:08 --> 48:17 [SPEAKER_21]: Maybe in some cases, then this like a two sexuality that we saw in short and sweet, not on all the songs, but on some of them.
48:17 --> 48:19 [SPEAKER_12]: I mean, look, there's a few singles on this.
48:19 --> 48:20 [SPEAKER_12]: Man child tears.
48:22 --> 48:22 [SPEAKER_12]: When did you get hot?
48:23 --> 48:25 [SPEAKER_12]: But tears, which hit number three,
48:25 --> 48:54 [SPEAKER_10]: This one, it's not even innuendo, it's like direct.
48:54 --> 49:13 [SPEAKER_12]: there's a lot about this this is my least favorite song on the album interesting it feels like it's in conversation with Taylor though the innuendos mixed with the sort of trad wife stuff with that we talked about with Taylor Swift's new album and this is like she wants a trad husband who will like do the dishes and she's kind of obsessed with him
49:13 --> 49:19 [SPEAKER_21]: literally gonna do the bare minimum of being a good roommate and then show that turns her on.
49:19 --> 49:22 [SPEAKER_21]: And I think that that's like a sad benchmark to set.
49:22 --> 49:28 [SPEAKER_21]: Like you do the dishes and I'll put out, I'm sorry for being so crass and cavalier here in mixed company.
49:28 --> 49:33 [SPEAKER_21]: But it's like we should expect more of men than just like bare minimum roommate stuff, right?
49:33 --> 49:36 [SPEAKER_21]: And I do think it's funny though on the radio, they bleep out a lot.
49:36 --> 49:38 [SPEAKER_21]: Like tears run down my bleep.
49:38 --> 49:38 [SPEAKER_21]: Like they bleep.
49:38 --> 49:39 [SPEAKER_12]: It just doesn't say anything.
49:39 --> 49:42 [SPEAKER_21]: They censor it in a way that it's really funny.
49:42 --> 49:44 [SPEAKER_21]: It is pretty gross to have your 11-year-old sing this song.
49:45 --> 49:46 [SPEAKER_21]: It's pretty awkward with all of us.
49:46 --> 49:47 [SPEAKER_12]: Tears run down my thigh to remember.
49:47 --> 49:55 [SPEAKER_21]: When you're listening at Voice Lessons with her male voice teacher, and he comes and talks to you after and says, I don't feel comfortable.
49:55 --> 49:57 [SPEAKER_12]: I get wet at the thought of you having your 11-year-old say that?
49:57 --> 49:57 [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.
49:57 --> 49:58 [SPEAKER_21]: It's like...
49:58 --> 49:59 [SPEAKER_21]: fair.
49:59 --> 50:01 [SPEAKER_21]: I don't think it's the best song in the album.
50:01 --> 50:08 [SPEAKER_21]: I do think it's like the most sensational, which maybe this album, he she feels like she still needs.
50:09 --> 50:11 [SPEAKER_21]: My favorite song on this album was when did you get hot?
50:11 --> 50:13 [SPEAKER_21]: I think the song is just great.
50:13 --> 50:15 [SPEAKER_21]: It's like stand fundamentally great song.
50:28 --> 50:51 [SPEAKER_10]: I would say that one, and the biggest hit I think by the charts is Man Child, which
50:59 --> 51:03 [SPEAKER_12]: It's just like bubble gummi pop in a way that isn't irritating to me though.
51:03 --> 51:08 [SPEAKER_12]: I have to say like her voice, I like this album, but halfway through I'm kind of like, I don't know.
51:09 --> 51:12 [SPEAKER_12]: It's kind of gets on my nerves, but like it's a little bit much.
51:12 --> 51:16 [SPEAKER_21]: Well, she puts like a twang on for this album more than some others.
51:16 --> 51:23 [SPEAKER_21]: Interesting, but and I think that that's how she's going to begin to re-brand herself like she's partnering with Dolly Parton.
51:24 --> 51:27 [SPEAKER_21]: She did a cover with Dolly Parton of the song that they sang it together.
51:27 --> 51:36 [SPEAKER_21]: And I really do hear Sabrina Carpenter as like a, she has the same tone as a Dolly Parton but just younger and like with a little bit more lilt in her voice.
51:36 --> 51:37 [SPEAKER_12]: Interesting.
51:37 --> 51:44 [SPEAKER_21]: So I think that she is positioning herself like take that place in like country, pop, punk, like
51:44 --> 51:49 [SPEAKER_21]: I like the song, Manchelle, because it does show off like she is a good vocalist.
51:49 --> 51:51 [SPEAKER_21]: Like, it's, it's campy and easy song to sing.
51:52 --> 51:53 [SPEAKER_21]: It like switches octaves.
51:53 --> 51:55 [SPEAKER_21]: The range is really broad and that song.
51:56 --> 51:57 [SPEAKER_21]: And I really appreciate that.
51:57 --> 51:59 [SPEAKER_21]: And that's what I wasn't getting in some of her previous albums.
52:00 --> 52:03 [SPEAKER_21]: Short and sweet just seemed so tongue-in-cheek and so like kitschy.
52:04 --> 52:07 [SPEAKER_21]: That I was like, I just want to hear her sing because she's a good singer.
52:07 --> 52:10 [SPEAKER_21]: And I felt like she was burying her vocal talent in New Window.
52:10 --> 52:14 [SPEAKER_21]: And she still hasn't quite a bit of in New Window here.
52:14 --> 52:17 [SPEAKER_21]: like the Sun House tour is hilarious.
52:18 --> 52:22 [SPEAKER_21]: And like, literally a good song and it shows off her vocal strength too.
52:23 --> 52:27 [SPEAKER_21]: When did you get hot, um, has such great runs in it that she's very, like cheeky about it.
52:27 --> 52:29 [SPEAKER_21]: So I didn't enjoy this album.
52:29 --> 52:30 [SPEAKER_21]: I think it's going to win.
52:30 --> 52:30 [SPEAKER_21]: I do.
52:30 --> 52:32 [SPEAKER_21]: I think you can't stop Sabrina Carpenter.
52:32 --> 52:33 [SPEAKER_12]: Wow.
52:33 --> 52:33 [SPEAKER_12]: So yeah.
52:33 --> 52:36 [SPEAKER_12]: The odds have her at fourth plus six, 50.
52:36 --> 52:40 [SPEAKER_12]: So you stand to win a little money if you make that bet for me this one's right in the middle.
52:40 --> 52:40 [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.
52:40 --> 52:43 [SPEAKER_12]: I don't know about fourth or fifth or something like that.
52:43 --> 52:44 [SPEAKER_12]: I like this music.
52:44 --> 52:47 [SPEAKER_12]: It's the quirkiness of it is like half good and half irritating.
52:47 --> 52:48 [SPEAKER_12]: So like I don't know.
52:48 --> 52:53 [SPEAKER_12]: I think I like shortened sweet a little more than you did and also a little more than this.
52:53 --> 52:56 [SPEAKER_12]: But that was also sort of a discovery thing for me.
52:56 --> 52:57 [SPEAKER_12]: Like great.
52:57 --> 52:59 [SPEAKER_12]: It was funny to me to hear her in
52:59 --> 53:02 [SPEAKER_12]: before having talked to you about how like socially damaging it is.
53:03 --> 53:05 [SPEAKER_12]: So it was just like, wow, did she just say that?
53:05 --> 53:07 [SPEAKER_12]: I had that experience while listening to that.
53:07 --> 53:08 [SPEAKER_12]: And I was now expecting it.
53:08 --> 53:19 [SPEAKER_21]: And I also think that like the first like the male gaze piece is kind of striking for Sabrina Carpenter when you're first exposed to her because she is very beautiful and she knows it.
53:19 --> 53:23 [SPEAKER_21]: She owns her sexuality and that's something that can be very enticing to a male audience.
53:24 --> 53:25 [SPEAKER_21]: And I think that you fell for it.
53:25 --> 53:29 [SPEAKER_12]: I just like listen to the record and even like I've never had seen a picture of her in a carpet.
53:29 --> 53:30 [SPEAKER_12]: I didn't know who she was.
53:30 --> 53:31 [SPEAKER_12]: I didn't know she was like a Disney.
53:32 --> 53:35 [SPEAKER_12]: Now I've seen the cover of the freaking this album.
53:35 --> 53:39 [SPEAKER_12]: I've seen that album cover and it's like, oh wow, yeah, that's she's doing something there.
53:39 --> 53:39 [SPEAKER_12]: But no, I didn't.
53:40 --> 53:44 [SPEAKER_12]: I was that was all news to me when we were talking about it last time that she was like hyper sexualized.
53:45 --> 53:50 [SPEAKER_12]: She's selling records and she's winning Grammys, but she's doing yeah, that's what she's doing.
53:50 --> 53:59 [SPEAKER_12]: Debbie Theodore, Moss Photos, 2025, bad boonie, so that's I should have taken more photos by the way, is what that means.
54:00 --> 54:07 [SPEAKER_12]: So some previous Grammys under his belt, he's one three, but none of the big ones, like you know, like this, for example.
54:08 --> 54:19 [SPEAKER_12]: In 2023, Umberano C&T was the first Spanish language album nominated for album of the year, but Harry Styles won that year.
54:19 --> 54:21 [SPEAKER_12]: This was a pretty big hit from that record.
54:21 --> 54:48 [SPEAKER_23]: This is Moscow Mewel, hit number four in the U.S.
54:49 --> 54:50 [SPEAKER_21]: I like it.
54:51 --> 54:52 [SPEAKER_21]: I like bad bunny.
54:52 --> 54:58 [SPEAKER_21]: I think that I'm not as familiar with his music as I am with him as an individual, which is weird.
54:59 --> 55:05 [SPEAKER_12]: Well, we're coming up on him doing the Super Bowl, and that's gonna be really a middle finger at certain people in a lot of ways.
55:05 --> 55:10 [SPEAKER_21]: People are like, I was in a room with people, and they were like, oh, I can't believe bad bunnies playing the Super Bowl.
55:10 --> 55:12 [SPEAKER_21]: We need an American singer.
55:12 --> 55:13 [SPEAKER_21]: I'm like, he is from America.
55:14 --> 55:14 [SPEAKER_21]: It's for the weekend.
55:14 --> 55:16 [SPEAKER_21]: It's like America.
55:16 --> 55:17 [SPEAKER_12]: Talk to different people.
55:17 --> 55:18 [SPEAKER_21]: He's dying.
55:19 --> 55:19 [SPEAKER_12]: So, no.
55:19 --> 55:21 [SPEAKER_12]: But it is controversial.
55:21 --> 55:36 [SPEAKER_12]: I think that's, and that's, I have to say, the NFL props to the NFL for doing that, because it is, if we were all on the edge of our seats, wondering if Kendrick Lamar was going to play not like us or directly reference the Drake thing at last year's Super Bowl.
55:36 --> 55:51 [SPEAKER_12]: This time I'm like, is he going to call out Donald Trump in the middle of the show because he might and he probably won't because there's a lot of money, probably like they may literally have it in his contract like you can't or we won't pay you, but honestly I wouldn't put it past him.
55:51 --> 56:17 [SPEAKER_21]: so but he's just great like there's a meme that's going around like imagine it's him doing the um carpool karaoke with James Corden he's talking about how this Ariana Grande song was how he like learned how to speak English and he's having this like really profound moment and then halfway through you get to like the chorus of that song he just stops and like bust out the chorus and such like he's just so funny he's just so likable and funny
56:17 --> 56:44 [SPEAKER_21]: when he's on SNL he's so good he was in the newest happy Gilmore movie happy Gilmore too he had like I did not see that it was so good and he had a really funny part he's he's a funny actor and just a likable persona so I think if you hate bed bunny like you're doing it wrong the music's good he's a good guy I don't think he's gonna win the Grammy but I like want to see him at the Grammy isn't having good time because he like lightens my heart to see him have fun
56:44 --> 56:45 [SPEAKER_12]: So he's up for six this year.
56:46 --> 56:48 [SPEAKER_12]: Best musica urbana album.
56:48 --> 56:49 [SPEAKER_12]: Album, I guess.
56:49 --> 56:51 [SPEAKER_12]: This album of the year, best album cover.
56:51 --> 56:52 [SPEAKER_12]: Again, I love that one.
56:53 --> 56:55 [SPEAKER_12]: Record of the year.
56:55 --> 56:59 [SPEAKER_12]: which would be for DTMF, or I guess you should say, dead, TMAFA.
56:59 --> 57:00 [SPEAKER_12]: Okay.
57:00 --> 57:04 [SPEAKER_12]: Song of the year also for that one, best global musical performance also.
57:04 --> 57:08 [SPEAKER_12]: This is a seventh album, which is an homage to Puerto Rico.
57:09 --> 57:14 [SPEAKER_12]: So, and that's kind of what not what I like about this, but there's some amazing moments because of that.
57:14 --> 57:18 [SPEAKER_12]: There's like these references to salsa, bomba, plena, hi-bato, these styles.
57:19 --> 57:22 [SPEAKER_12]: And I like Regatón, but I'm almost like,
57:22 --> 57:24 [SPEAKER_12]: more influenced by it than I am.
57:24 --> 57:38 [SPEAKER_12]: There's something about the cyclical nature of the way the beats are contrasted, constructed, which I know in a lot of ways is just copypasting in a DA from like somebody, when we go back to the early 2000s when this first got popular, it was like really lazy arrangement.
57:38 --> 57:43 [SPEAKER_12]: That's somehow creates these weird cycles that like tickles my minimalist composer brain.
57:44 --> 57:45 [SPEAKER_12]: And this sort of, p-p-p-p-p.
57:45 --> 57:49 [SPEAKER_12]: That kind of demo rhythm just, I really love.
57:50 --> 57:52 [SPEAKER_12]: I don't listen to a lot of reggaeton, I just don't know.
57:52 --> 57:58 [SPEAKER_12]: But I like it this, I actually really like, though, because what's so cool about it.
57:59 --> 58:06 [SPEAKER_12]: And the singles on this, Petorro de Coco, Baieinold Vdabe, which I'll play a little bit, DTMF AU, and Clube, there's a lot of singles here.
58:07 --> 58:14 [SPEAKER_12]: Not all of them, but a lot of them are weaving in the reggaeton with more traditional Puerto Rican styles.
58:14 --> 58:22 [SPEAKER_12]: The way the album opens, which I don't have a clip of, whoever you'll just like is salsa and then an electronic beat just slams in.
58:23 --> 58:24 [SPEAKER_12]: And there's just cool guest spots on this.
58:25 --> 58:27 [SPEAKER_12]: I feel like Bad Bunny is vocals himself sound good now.
58:27 --> 58:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
58:28 --> 58:36 [SPEAKER_12]: I feel like when he was first coming up, look, I don't know really enough about the style to critique, but his voice had kind of almost a cartoony.
58:36 --> 58:38 [SPEAKER_12]: Like when we talked about Shaggy, it was almost like that.
58:39 --> 58:40 [SPEAKER_12]: Like who was kind of seeing the voice?
58:40 --> 58:41 [SPEAKER_12]: He was seeing the voice.
58:41 --> 58:41 [SPEAKER_12]: And now,
58:41 --> 58:45 [SPEAKER_12]: Sometimes you hear him singing and his delivery is really nice.
58:45 --> 58:59 [SPEAKER_12]: Here's an example, this is Bile in Lovidable, and what's so cool about this is it's basically like a salsa backing rhythm with a reggaeton vocal and then reggaeton bass coming in and out too, and it's just really cool.
59:21 --> 59:25 [SPEAKER_21]: Yeah, this sounds, his voice sounds more mature here in the cell.
59:25 --> 59:26 [SPEAKER_21]: Some than some of his earlier album.
59:26 --> 59:28 [SPEAKER_12]: But it doesn't sound like a salsa vocal would, right?
59:28 --> 59:31 [SPEAKER_12]: He's still coming at it as a reggaeton in hip hop.
59:31 --> 59:35 [SPEAKER_21]: In the earlier albums, were they in English or Spanish?
59:35 --> 59:45 [SPEAKER_21]: It's almost all Spanish because I don't know if I'm not really familiar, but I don't know much English stuff at all that he's done because I was wondering if like the tone of it was just his English accent.
59:46 --> 59:58 [SPEAKER_12]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
59:58 --> 01:00:15 [SPEAKER_12]: But then there's like this crazy kick drum that I'll slam in the middle of it and then he'll do a reggae tone verse in the middle And so that stuff is what I really nerd it out on when listening to this It's especially kind of on the ends of the album the beginning and the ending are like that and then the middle is more straightforward Just sort of reggae tone or even house.
01:00:15 --> 01:00:19 [SPEAKER_12]: There's like house music here So this might be my second favorite record.
01:00:21 --> 01:00:23 [SPEAKER_12]: It seems like a long shot to me
01:00:23 --> 01:00:28 [SPEAKER_12]: Um, it's plus 300 though, so it's ranked third in the Vegas odds at the Grammys after the Super Bowl.
01:00:28 --> 01:00:30 [SPEAKER_12]: The Grammys are before the Super Bowl.
01:00:30 --> 01:00:30 [SPEAKER_12]: Okay.
01:00:30 --> 01:00:31 [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.
01:00:31 --> 01:00:36 [SPEAKER_12]: So the Grammys are in about two weeks, and if I'll play off, still still be going on at that point.
01:00:36 --> 01:00:37 [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.
01:00:37 --> 01:00:37 [SPEAKER_12]: I don't know.
01:00:37 --> 01:00:41 [SPEAKER_12]: We'll see, but wow, yeah, if you wins the Grammys for album of year, and then does it?
01:00:41 --> 01:00:42 [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.
01:00:42 --> 01:00:48 [SPEAKER_21]: That's like, I mean, I think that I always go back to how much of the Grammys is the machine, right?
01:00:48 --> 01:00:51 [SPEAKER_21]: Like how much is just like industry hype?
01:00:51 --> 01:00:52 [SPEAKER_21]: and it would make sense.
01:00:52 --> 01:00:57 [SPEAKER_21]: I bet you the Super Bowl wants him to win the Grammy because then he'll get more viewership for the Super Bowl.
01:00:58 --> 01:00:58 [SPEAKER_12]: Maybe.
01:00:58 --> 01:00:58 [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.
01:00:59 --> 01:00:59 [SPEAKER_21]: Right.
01:00:59 --> 01:01:05 [SPEAKER_12]: So people with people that would otherwise maybe watch the puppy bowl or whatever during that 30 minutes, I'll tune in to see him, you know.
01:01:05 --> 01:01:07 [SPEAKER_21]: Because he's like, you know, because they've heard of him now and whatever.
01:01:07 --> 01:01:08 [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, I don't know.
01:01:08 --> 01:01:13 [SPEAKER_21]: He says something controversial in his acceptance speech and that like increases viewership for the Super Bowl.
01:01:13 --> 01:01:20 [SPEAKER_12]: It says something nasty about the New England Patriots or the... Who are clearly gonna go into the Super Bowl and ask, Can you believe that?
01:01:20 --> 01:01:21 [SPEAKER_12]: We don't know what's going on.
01:01:21 --> 01:01:23 [SPEAKER_12]: We're recording this right before the...
01:01:23 --> 01:01:23 [SPEAKER_12]: This week's guest.
01:01:24 --> 01:01:25 [SPEAKER_12]: We're still in the... Hey, it's divisional.
01:01:25 --> 01:01:27 [SPEAKER_21]: Found money at this point.
01:01:27 --> 01:01:27 [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, great.
01:01:27 --> 01:01:40 [SPEAKER_21]: It's getting this year going.
01:01:49 --> 01:01:51 [SPEAKER_01]: One more, one more.
01:01:51 --> 01:01:52 [SPEAKER_12]: Leon Thomas, declare frontrunner.
01:01:52 --> 01:01:53 [SPEAKER_12]: 2024.
01:01:54 --> 01:01:57 [SPEAKER_12]: So a newbie on the scene relatively speaking.
01:01:58 --> 01:02:01 [SPEAKER_12]: So he did win one Grammy though, but it was for a Sizzasong.
01:02:02 --> 01:02:09 [SPEAKER_12]: So this Sizzasong from 2024 snooze, he is a co-writer and a producer.
01:02:15 --> 01:02:32 [SPEAKER_05]: And I found a clip of him playing that acoustic and this is just what he sounds like outside of a pop album context.
01:02:33 --> 01:02:47 [SPEAKER_22]: I can't lose you when I'm with you I can't sleep, there's no more You're just so important, nobody, nobody, you do It's lose I love that song.
01:02:47 --> 01:02:50 [SPEAKER_21]: I like his version better, it's the first time I'm hearing it
01:02:50 --> 01:02:53 [SPEAKER_12]: But so do you know Leon Thomas for this.
01:02:53 --> 01:02:58 [SPEAKER_21]: Don't I didn't even know he worked on that sizzle song, but I loved that song.
01:02:58 --> 01:03:01 [SPEAKER_21]: I think it's beautiful fun of my favorite songs of theirs of sizzles.
01:03:02 --> 01:03:03 [SPEAKER_21]: I don't know Leon Thomas.
01:03:03 --> 01:03:04 [SPEAKER_21]: I liked this album.
01:03:05 --> 01:03:06 [SPEAKER_21]: It was really cohesive.
01:03:06 --> 01:03:07 [SPEAKER_21]: It was really confident.
01:03:08 --> 01:03:20 [SPEAKER_21]: It's like jazz and soul and rock and had a lot of wide ranging influences and one of my favorites, but I had no idea.
01:03:20 --> 01:03:21 [SPEAKER_12]: I liked it too.
01:03:21 --> 01:03:23 [SPEAKER_12]: I doubt this will win.
01:03:23 --> 01:03:30 [SPEAKER_12]: I did like this album a lot, but I think some of that might be just because the style of music I liked, the combination of stuff, the R&B.
01:03:31 --> 01:03:32 [SPEAKER_12]: It almost sounded PBR and B.
01:03:32 --> 01:03:33 [SPEAKER_12]: Remember that term?
01:03:33 --> 01:03:34 [SPEAKER_12]: From like 10 to 50.
01:03:35 --> 01:03:36 [SPEAKER_12]: PBR?
01:03:36 --> 01:03:42 [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, it sounded like like early the weekend or like Frank Ocean kind of chill.
01:03:43 --> 01:03:45 [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, some neosole in there.
01:03:45 --> 01:03:49 [SPEAKER_12]: I really liked it.
01:03:49 --> 01:03:54 [SPEAKER_12]: right because Sabrina Carpenter Justin Bieber because he was he was a broadway guy.
01:03:54 --> 01:03:58 [SPEAKER_12]: He was on in the lion king color purple as a child.
01:03:58 --> 01:03:59 [SPEAKER_12]: Because he's pretty young.
01:03:59 --> 01:04:01 [SPEAKER_19]: Am I like and lovely on Tom?
01:04:01 --> 01:04:02 [SPEAKER_12]: Check it out.
01:04:02 --> 01:04:05 [SPEAKER_12]: So his singles on this far fetched rather be alone.
01:04:05 --> 01:04:09 [SPEAKER_12]: Yes, it is and this is mutt which hit number six.
01:04:09 --> 01:04:17 [SPEAKER_04]: And this is a pretty cool song.
01:04:38 --> 01:04:52 [SPEAKER_12]: Like yeah, this album was long too compared to some of you try to remember I have to say like you're hating on short and sweet before right it was short and sweet because last year They were like 80 minute album after 80 minute album and double albums.
01:04:52 --> 01:04:53 [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.
01:04:53 --> 01:04:55 [SPEAKER_12]: I don't remember how long this one is.
01:04:55 --> 01:04:58 [SPEAKER_12]: Okay, which is a little it's all about how long the tracks are right.
01:04:58 --> 01:05:03 [SPEAKER_12]: The Andre 3000 album had like seven tracks and it's like 15 minutes long
01:05:03 --> 01:05:13 [SPEAKER_12]: Um, I don't know, sometimes it feels like if you're a hip-hop artist and you want to pander to Mark Poppony, which you should not try to do, it's by doing stuff like this.
01:05:13 --> 01:05:24 [SPEAKER_12]: Like I'm going to play how fast, which is the album opener and just the way the arrangement unfolds and goes from this sort of ambient cool sound to something much more explosive is just so cool.
01:05:48 --> 01:05:51 [SPEAKER_12]: I don't know, something so cool about the way that album starts.
01:05:51 --> 01:05:53 [SPEAKER_12]: And yeah, the singles are all really cool.
01:05:54 --> 01:05:55 [SPEAKER_12]: Dancing with demons was cool.
01:05:55 --> 01:05:56 [SPEAKER_12]: Vibes don't lie.
01:05:56 --> 01:06:01 [SPEAKER_12]: This one is in the middle, I think, for me, like dead metal.
01:06:01 --> 01:06:04 [SPEAKER_12]: This is plus 1 on the Vegas Todd.
01:06:04 --> 01:06:06 [SPEAKER_12]: So this is the other one tied for 6th.
01:06:06 --> 01:06:09 [SPEAKER_12]: So this one tied with clips, right?
01:06:09 --> 01:06:16 [SPEAKER_12]: So the Vegas front runners are Kendrick Lamar, then Gaga, then Bad Bunny, then Sabrina Carter.
01:06:16 --> 01:06:17 [SPEAKER_12]: And pressure.
01:06:17 --> 01:06:22 [SPEAKER_12]: who are your front runners versus who you actually think is going to win versus who you want to win.
01:06:22 --> 01:06:25 [SPEAKER_21]: I really liked the Tyler album.
01:06:25 --> 01:06:26 [SPEAKER_21]: I really liked this album.
01:06:27 --> 01:06:29 [SPEAKER_21]: I don't think either of them are going to come close.
01:06:29 --> 01:06:32 [SPEAKER_21]: I think it's probably going to be Kendrick or Lady Gaga.
01:06:33 --> 01:06:38 [SPEAKER_21]: Sabrina, I think will win pop or
01:06:38 --> 01:06:40 [SPEAKER_12]: I thought you were about to put money on Sabrina, weren't you going to?
01:06:41 --> 01:06:45 [SPEAKER_21]: I like it a lot and I think like the machine wants her to win, but I think she's going to win other places.
01:06:45 --> 01:06:53 [SPEAKER_21]: I don't think she's going to go home like empty handed from the awards, but I think that it would be awesome if Bad Bunny won.
01:06:53 --> 01:07:01 [SPEAKER_12]: So for me, front runners are Kendrick and Bad Bunny, and then probably Tyler and Leon, and then Sabrina Clip's Gaga, the way of the bottom is Bieber.
01:07:01 --> 01:07:04 [SPEAKER_12]: Like I have Gaga in the lower, lower piece for me.
01:07:04 --> 01:07:09 [SPEAKER_21]: If you say who I would rank, Gaga would be low, but I do think that she has a chance to win.
01:07:09 --> 01:07:11 [SPEAKER_21]: I would like to see Bad Bunny win.
01:07:11 --> 01:07:17 [SPEAKER_21]: I think that that would be an interesting political narrative that the Grammys could be a part of.
01:07:17 --> 01:07:23 [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, I think Kendrick will probably win, but that bunny is kind of a sleeper, sneaky could actually win.
01:07:23 --> 01:07:26 [SPEAKER_12]: I don't think Gaga or Sabrina are going to get it.
01:07:26 --> 01:07:26 [SPEAKER_19]: No.
01:07:26 --> 01:07:34 [SPEAKER_12]: I don't feel willing to put real money on it, but we could do a very low stakes bet, like maybe only like $10 or something.
01:07:35 --> 01:07:35 [SPEAKER_21]: Maybe, yeah.
01:07:36 --> 01:07:37 [SPEAKER_21]: Yeah, that's fair.
01:07:37 --> 01:07:38 [SPEAKER_12]: I mean, tune in next time, let us know.
01:07:39 --> 01:07:46 [SPEAKER_12]: Laura Hounds, if I've had to sell my basement,
01:07:46 --> 01:07:47 [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:07:47 --> 01:07:52 [SPEAKER_12]: So remember, we have song of the air versus record of the year.
01:07:52 --> 01:07:57 [SPEAKER_12]: Do you remember what song of the year awards and what record of the year awards?
01:07:57 --> 01:08:02 [SPEAKER_12]: Cause we're gonna talk about those really quickly, luckily it can be quick because we've talked about most of these artists already.
01:08:02 --> 01:08:04 [SPEAKER_21]: Do I remember what the difference is?
01:08:04 --> 01:08:04 [SPEAKER_12]: What's the difference?
01:08:05 --> 01:08:08 [SPEAKER_12]: First start about song of the year, then we're gonna talk about record of the year.
01:08:08 --> 01:08:09 [SPEAKER_21]: Well, song of the year.
01:08:09 --> 01:08:10 [SPEAKER_21]: Well, okay.
01:08:10 --> 01:08:36 [SPEAKER_12]: Record of the year is about like more about production and song of the years more about writing yes, so right so the record of the year is also about the performance right so think about that going to like the artist and the producer jointly, whereas song of the year will go to just the songwriter which in this case is a lot of includes the artists, but also might include a bunch of other people or one other person That's not always true right the song of the or could go to a completely unrelated person right
01:08:37 --> 01:08:42 [SPEAKER_12]: So, Abra Cadabra by Gaga, which is written by Gaga, Henry Walter, and Andrew White.
01:08:43 --> 01:08:44 [SPEAKER_12]: All right, already talked about that one.
01:08:45 --> 01:08:47 [SPEAKER_12]: I don't think either of us is really gunning for that one to win.
01:08:48 --> 01:09:00 [SPEAKER_08]: Next, Dochi, anxiety, which is a very cool use of a GoTay sample.
01:09:00 --> 01:09:23 [SPEAKER_08]: I love that song because I've recently learned that I'm very good at determining form in music and songs, and I love the form of that song.
01:09:23 --> 01:09:26 [SPEAKER_21]: I like the rap section.
01:09:26 --> 01:09:28 [SPEAKER_21]: I think it's really well written.
01:09:28 --> 01:09:34 [SPEAKER_21]: Yeah, I think it's the most well written song out of anything on this list.
01:09:34 --> 01:09:37 [SPEAKER_21]: And that's why I think it should been song of the year because that's what it's like.
01:09:37 --> 01:09:43 [SPEAKER_12]: Boy, so I will also point out Jayla Hickman, which is Dochi, wrote the song and she's the only credited songwriter.
01:09:43 --> 01:09:48 [SPEAKER_12]: And that is the only song on this list that has one credited songwriter.
01:09:49 --> 01:09:52 [SPEAKER_12]: The rest of them are collaborations often some of them.
01:09:52 --> 01:10:16 [SPEAKER_12]: chronically long list of people, which brings us speaking of which to apata, APT, I don't know how to say this, by rosé and Bruno Mars, which I have to play just for the reference, it sounds a lot like that little bit of
01:10:23 --> 01:10:24 [SPEAKER_12]: What do you think of this song?
01:10:25 --> 01:10:26 [SPEAKER_12]: I'm sure you've heard it a million times.
01:10:26 --> 01:10:28 [SPEAKER_21]: A million times.
01:10:28 --> 01:10:29 [SPEAKER_21]: I like the collaboration.
01:10:29 --> 01:10:33 [SPEAKER_21]: I generally like Bruno Mars, but I'm over the song.
01:10:34 --> 01:10:36 [SPEAKER_21]: I don't think it's like, it's a little bit much.
01:10:36 --> 01:10:38 [SPEAKER_21]: It's like, it's not like, well, written.
01:10:39 --> 01:10:42 [SPEAKER_12]: Like, it's a little striking for it to be up for a song of the song.
01:10:42 --> 01:10:44 [SPEAKER_12]: That's a songwriting exercise.
01:10:44 --> 01:10:45 [SPEAKER_12]: I don't hate the song.
01:10:45 --> 01:10:46 [SPEAKER_12]: It's just a lot.
01:10:46 --> 01:11:01 [SPEAKER_12]: And by the way, it is a comical, comical, long list of collaborators, the songwriters, Amy Allen, Christopher Brody Brown, Rojay, Shahayad, Omar Feddy, Philip Lawrence, Bruno Mars, Chaseong Park, Theron Thomas, and Henry Walter.
01:11:01 --> 01:11:04 [SPEAKER_12]: So, Rose, not one of the songwriters, interestingly enough.
01:11:05 --> 01:11:08 [SPEAKER_12]: So, yeah, I don't think that the one's going to win, right?
01:11:08 --> 01:11:14 [SPEAKER_21]: I don't like it, but I will say my phone is listening to us talk because it just set me a notification to buy Bruno Mars tickets.
01:11:14 --> 01:11:15 [SPEAKER_12]: Buy Bruno Mars tickets.
01:11:15 --> 01:11:17 [SPEAKER_21]: I don't love another reason.
01:11:17 --> 01:11:17 [SPEAKER_21]: Another reason.
01:11:17 --> 01:11:18 [SPEAKER_21]: I don't love it.
01:11:18 --> 01:11:19 [SPEAKER_12]: Bruno Mars concert.
01:11:19 --> 01:11:20 [SPEAKER_12]: Okay.
01:11:20 --> 01:11:20 [SPEAKER_12]: GTMF.
01:11:21 --> 01:11:21 [SPEAKER_12]: Bad Bunny.
01:11:21 --> 01:11:26 [SPEAKER_12]: We already, we didn't actually queue up that song, but that's one of the songs off his record, GTMF.
01:11:27 --> 01:11:28 [SPEAKER_12]: This one's written by
01:11:28 --> 01:11:40 [SPEAKER_12]: Marco Daniel Borrero, Scott Dittrich, Benjamin Follick, Benito Antonio Martinez, Ocasio, Hugo Reyes, Sancion Sanabria, Tyler Spray, and Roberto Jose Rosado Torres.
01:11:40 --> 01:11:42 [SPEAKER_12]: So pretty cool song, good record.
01:11:43 --> 01:11:43 [SPEAKER_12]: I don't know.
01:11:44 --> 01:11:46 [SPEAKER_12]: I'd be surprised if this one song of the year.
01:11:46 --> 01:11:46 [SPEAKER_12]: Same.
01:11:47 --> 01:11:48 [SPEAKER_12]: But it's good.
01:11:48 --> 01:11:52 [SPEAKER_12]: All right, golden by Hunter X E J A.
01:11:52 --> 01:11:56 [SPEAKER_12]: How do I say that, uh, AJ, Audrey Nuna and Ray Ami.
01:11:56 --> 01:12:01 [SPEAKER_12]: This, of course, being the song from Kpop Demon Hunters.
01:12:25 --> 01:12:35 [SPEAKER_21]: You know, I've heard that song a million times and unlike apata or some of the other songs on this list, I'm never tired of it.
01:12:35 --> 01:12:40 [SPEAKER_21]: Even when you just played, I definitely still got goosebumps listening to it like this sequence.
01:12:40 --> 01:12:41 [SPEAKER_12]: There's a bump.
01:12:41 --> 01:12:42 [SPEAKER_12]: It's just like, bumping.
01:12:42 --> 01:12:43 [SPEAKER_12]: We don't bump.
01:12:43 --> 01:12:52 [SPEAKER_21]: Like we can overcome and I think that it was just yeah, it's from like a kid's movie Cool, but it's a really good song stand alone.
01:12:52 --> 01:12:57 [SPEAKER_21]: I think it surprised everyone that golden's like on the radio Like I I don't know how to say it.
01:12:57 --> 01:13:01 [SPEAKER_21]: I will just say I was at like a weird dance club the summer.
01:13:01 --> 01:13:04 [SPEAKER_21]: Okay, and the song came on
01:13:04 --> 01:13:17 [SPEAKER_21]: And I thought it was so funny because I listened to it like with my kid when we watch Kpop Demon Hunters and the club exploded and like everyone was so like singing along and dancing along I was like this song is bringing people together.
01:13:17 --> 01:13:18 [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.
01:13:18 --> 01:13:19 [SPEAKER_21]: And I think that that's really cool.
01:13:19 --> 01:13:20 [SPEAKER_21]: I.
01:13:20 --> 01:13:22 [SPEAKER_12]: credit goes to E.J.A.E.
01:13:23 --> 01:13:31 [SPEAKER_12]: Park-Hung-Jun-Jun-Glu-Dwak-Yuhan-Li-Hidang-Nam-Jung-Hun-Syu- and Mark Sunablik.
01:13:32 --> 01:13:37 [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, and so we'll see a couple more Luther by Kendrick.
01:13:37 --> 01:13:48 [SPEAKER_12]: We already played that this one right by Jack Antonov, Roswita Larisha Bhecha, Matthew Bernard, Scott Bridgeway, Sam-Doo, Inc. Kendrick Lamar, Solana
01:13:48 --> 01:13:51 [SPEAKER_12]: Mark Anthony Spears, Kamassi Washington.
01:13:51 --> 01:13:52 [SPEAKER_21]: There's a lot of people.
01:13:52 --> 01:13:53 [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, a lot of people.
01:13:53 --> 01:13:54 [SPEAKER_12]: Already talked about it.
01:13:54 --> 01:13:55 [SPEAKER_12]: It's awesome song.
01:13:55 --> 01:13:58 [SPEAKER_12]: Man child Sabrina Carbender written by Amy Allen.
01:13:59 --> 01:14:01 [SPEAKER_12]: Jack Antonoth and Sabrina Carbender.
01:14:01 --> 01:14:02 [SPEAKER_12]: Another small team.
01:14:02 --> 01:14:03 [SPEAKER_19]: Amy Allen and the Swiss twice.
01:14:04 --> 01:14:04 [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.
01:14:04 --> 01:14:06 [SPEAKER_12]: And so is Jack Antonoth.
01:14:06 --> 01:14:06 [SPEAKER_19]: Yeah.
01:14:07 --> 01:14:28 [SPEAKER_12]: Okay, wildflower, Billie Eilish, which this one was puzzling to me, because we considered the record its on, hit me hard and soft, for album of the year last time, it's just that this was released as a single later, so if you want to hear our extensive thoughts on that album, we talked about it on last year's Grammys, and we both really liked it, written by Billie Eilish and Phineas O'Connell.
01:14:29 --> 01:14:29 [SPEAKER_12]: Mm-hmm.
01:14:29 --> 01:14:29 [SPEAKER_12]: Good song.
01:14:30 --> 01:14:30 [SPEAKER_19]: Good song.
01:14:30 --> 01:14:34 [SPEAKER_12]: Very, very pretty song, very cool representation of that album.
01:14:34 --> 01:14:36 [SPEAKER_12]: So who's gonna win?
01:14:36 --> 01:14:37 [SPEAKER_12]: And who do you want to win?
01:14:38 --> 01:14:40 [SPEAKER_21]: I think golden will win.
01:14:40 --> 01:14:47 [SPEAKER_21]: Yeah, but they swept at the Oscars, which was recently, I think that like there's, uh, for the reasons I previously did it.
01:14:47 --> 01:14:48 [SPEAKER_12]: When the Oscars, you mean the Golden Globes?
01:14:49 --> 01:14:49 [SPEAKER_12]: The Golden Globes?
01:14:49 --> 01:14:51 [SPEAKER_12]: I'm sorry, I'm so sorry, guys.
01:14:52 --> 01:14:59 [SPEAKER_21]: And I think it is a well-written, beautifully written song, the lyrics are really powerful.
01:15:00 --> 01:15:04 [SPEAKER_21]: I think it crossed genres in a way that we haven't seen a song like do for a long time.
01:15:04 --> 01:15:06 [SPEAKER_21]: I'd love to, I think that will win.
01:15:06 --> 01:15:10 [SPEAKER_21]: I think it's deserved, but also Kendrick.
01:15:10 --> 01:15:11 [SPEAKER_21]: Also Dirty.
01:15:12 --> 01:15:14 [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, so that's exactly where we're thinking the same.
01:15:14 --> 01:15:17 [SPEAKER_12]: So my favorites of these songs are anxiety and Luther.
01:15:17 --> 01:15:17 [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.
01:15:18 --> 01:15:23 [SPEAKER_12]: So dochi and Kendrick, but from a songwriting perspective, I feel like I have to give it to gold.
01:15:23 --> 01:15:26 [SPEAKER_12]: It's like it's actually a good song written well.
01:15:26 --> 01:15:28 [SPEAKER_12]: And people love it.
01:15:28 --> 01:15:29 [SPEAKER_12]: This is a good award for it to win.
01:15:30 --> 01:15:37 [SPEAKER_12]: I say, so basically nothing new to talk about except for a literally one, but record of the year.
01:15:37 --> 01:15:45 [SPEAKER_12]: But I'm not listing off everybody who produced these because they're all massive teams and the reason I even did that before was to highlight the difference in some of the sizes.
01:15:46 --> 01:16:03 [SPEAKER_12]: But DTMF by Badmoney, I will play a clip here because part of what makes the record of the year, contention interesting is the production of it and it's got this mix of all these styles which is a pretty impressive feat from a producing standpoint.
01:16:25 --> 01:16:28 [SPEAKER_12]: So it else we got a bunch of stuff we've already talked about.
01:16:28 --> 01:16:45 [SPEAKER_12]: Sabrina Carpenter, Manchild, Dochi, anxiety, Billie Eilish, Wildflower, Lady Gaga, Abra Cadabra, Luther, Kendrick Lamar with SZA, Rosé and Bruno Mars, Apota, and then one we haven't talked about, which is Chapel Roan, the Subway.
01:16:51 --> 01:17:08 [SPEAKER_15]: It's the light of it's over Oh, it's over It's the night of the day It's the light of it's over It's the night of the day
01:17:11 --> 01:17:11 [SPEAKER_12]: funny.
01:17:11 --> 01:17:16 [SPEAKER_12]: She's sounding almost Sabrina Carpenterian there for vocal.
01:17:16 --> 01:17:18 [SPEAKER_12]: It's a beautiful song though and well produced.
01:17:18 --> 01:17:28 [SPEAKER_21]: And that's like, I think for this category, it's very easy for me to discern song of the year and songwriting more than the production, because for me a lot of it's lost on me.
01:17:28 --> 01:17:32 [SPEAKER_21]: I mean, you have more of an, for a show or more of an expert ear about producing.
01:17:33 --> 01:17:38 [SPEAKER_21]: So I'm wondering what your pick is for this in terms of just production alone.
01:17:38 --> 01:17:41 [SPEAKER_12]: So it's not just production alumna because it's also their performance, right?
01:17:42 --> 01:17:43 [SPEAKER_12]: So this is the artist too.
01:17:43 --> 01:17:51 [SPEAKER_12]: So that's why I think they have best pop vocal performance, which is just like how well is Chapel Roan singing and then there's best production.
01:17:51 --> 01:17:53 [SPEAKER_12]: This is sort of both of those things.
01:17:53 --> 01:17:57 [SPEAKER_12]: So I feel like with this mix,
01:17:57 --> 01:18:07 [SPEAKER_12]: Since none of these are really featuring crazy dynamic vocal performances that are like blowing in my mind, just the virtuosity or whatever, I am leaning more producery.
01:18:08 --> 01:18:12 [SPEAKER_12]: And so for me, I feel like it's DTMF or Luther.
01:18:12 --> 01:18:25 [SPEAKER_12]: I feel like we're going bad money or Kendrick, but I don't know, like because it's like apata is like pop perfection also sort of, but so is golden and that's not on this list, right?
01:18:25 --> 01:18:26 [SPEAKER_21]: that is well produced.
01:18:26 --> 01:18:28 [SPEAKER_12]: But the doji track is very simple.
01:18:29 --> 01:18:31 [SPEAKER_12]: It's like, you've got a backing sample and then she's doing her thing.
01:18:31 --> 01:18:32 [SPEAKER_21]: Yeah, I guess that's like what I don't think.
01:18:32 --> 01:18:35 [SPEAKER_12]: I feel like that one would be the performance side of it.
01:18:35 --> 01:18:35 [SPEAKER_12]: Okay.
01:18:35 --> 01:18:35 [SPEAKER_12]: Not the production.
01:18:35 --> 01:18:36 [SPEAKER_12]: Personally, like I don't know.
01:18:37 --> 01:18:40 [SPEAKER_12]: But it's hard for me to predict this one, where are people going to go?
01:18:40 --> 01:18:44 [SPEAKER_12]: Because also like wildflower is awesome.
01:18:44 --> 01:18:47 [SPEAKER_12]: And the subway that Chapel Roan song we just heard is beautiful.
01:18:47 --> 01:18:50 [SPEAKER_12]: Like there's nothing wrong with the performance or the production.
01:18:50 --> 01:18:52 [SPEAKER_12]: I just kind of don't know where the people
01:18:52 --> 01:18:55 [SPEAKER_12]: who vote like go with their priorities.
01:18:55 --> 01:19:03 [SPEAKER_21]: And it's a hard to compare some of these like bad bunny and chocolate row and together and it's, it's like apples and oranges.
01:19:03 --> 01:19:08 [SPEAKER_12]: Who is, what is better in Apple or a Lamborghini?
01:19:08 --> 01:19:08 [SPEAKER_21]: Right.
01:19:08 --> 01:19:09 [SPEAKER_12]: Well, it depends on how hungry you are, right?
01:19:09 --> 01:19:11 [SPEAKER_12]: And where you want to be, right?
01:19:11 --> 01:19:12 [SPEAKER_12]: It's it's hard.
01:19:12 --> 01:19:15 [SPEAKER_12]: They're not that different, but they're pretty darn different.
01:19:15 --> 01:19:20 [SPEAKER_21]: And like I think that that's the interesting thing about the Grammys is we have all these categories that like should be broken out more.
01:19:20 --> 01:19:21 [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.
01:19:21 --> 01:19:26 [SPEAKER_21]: There's so much music that goes unrecognized and so many artists that are overly recognized.
01:19:26 --> 01:19:29 [SPEAKER_21]: Like, let's spread it around a little bit more.
01:19:29 --> 01:19:32 [SPEAKER_12]: It's really interesting to see speaking of recognition and stuff like that.
01:19:32 --> 01:19:36 [SPEAKER_12]: Like, what are the Vegas Dodds on the next year's Grammys?
01:19:37 --> 01:19:39 [SPEAKER_12]: It's like an MX record being album of the year.
01:19:40 --> 01:19:54 [SPEAKER_12]: Well, if you bet $1, everybody listeners, if you all bet $1, that the Slacad MX album pass fail, you stand what will win record of the year, or album of the year rather you stand to make probably literally millions of dollars.
01:19:54 --> 01:19:57 [SPEAKER_12]: So I would say, is that worth the risk?
01:19:57 --> 01:20:00 [SPEAKER_12]: it might be you're the odds are probably comparable to buying a lottery ticket.
01:20:00 --> 01:20:01 [SPEAKER_21]: So go for it.
01:20:01 --> 01:20:07 [SPEAKER_21]: I know you're joking around Mark, but your album has so much potential to just propel you into the stratosphere.
01:20:07 --> 01:20:08 [SPEAKER_21]: It's so good.
01:20:08 --> 01:20:13 [SPEAKER_21]: You should everyone should check it out and buy it on insert website here and come to know.
01:20:13 --> 01:20:16 [SPEAKER_01]: I need to do this stupid podcast anymore.
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