Fallout - Episodes 4-6 Review

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[00:00:30] Hello and welcome to the Radioactive Ramblings Podcast, a show where we are going to be covering

[00:00:53] Fallout on Amazon Prime Video.

[00:00:56] I'm one of your co-hosts, Aaron.

[00:00:58] I'm your other co-host, Chase.

[00:01:00] And today we're going to be covering episodes 4 through 6 of Fallout.

[00:01:04] We're going to start with the spoiler free section with our general thoughts and impressions

[00:01:08] of the season so far before we get into a scene by scene breakdown of the episodes.

[00:01:13] Alright let's start off.

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[00:01:42] So are our spoiler free thoughts?

[00:01:47] Alright, so to get into our spoiler free thoughts a little bit, I thought that these

[00:01:53] episodes, the first three episodes that is were really fantastic and I found myself thinking

[00:01:59] if it keeps on this pace, it's going to be a pretty decent show.

[00:02:03] And now that I've seen episodes 4 through 6, they've doubled down for me.

[00:02:08] I think that this is going to be a fantastic show as long as they stick the landing of episode

[00:02:12] 7 and 8, this really does have the makings to be a pretty spectacular maybe even top 5

[00:02:18] show for me this year.

[00:02:19] I think I would have to strongly agree actually.

[00:02:23] Same takeaway from episode 1 through 3, I thought it was pretty good.

[00:02:27] Not anything crazy good, I thought they did a good job introducing the characters, introducing

[00:02:33] the setting for sure.

[00:02:34] But episode 4 through 6 did a really good job expanding upon the characters and introducing

[00:02:41] us to fall out as a world really.

[00:02:44] And I think that with the track they're going, I mean the show is quite great in my opinion

[00:02:50] and I think that if they continue this streak, the show will be definitely top 5 for me also.

[00:02:58] The production value that they're putting into it as well is so beyond what I thought,

[00:03:03] especially with the practical effects, the things like power armor, the ghoul makeup,

[00:03:08] all of that just looks fantastic and I thought it was all gonna be done with CGI but the way

[00:03:13] that they've integrated real live props into this series is just, they're doing a great

[00:03:18] job with it.

[00:03:19] Yeah, completely agree there too.

[00:03:22] And I think I mentioned this in the last episode where I thought the ghouls like knows CGI

[00:03:27] was a little weird but I think they definitely fixed that up in the later episodes.

[00:03:32] Like it looks much better in these episodes than it did in the first couple.

[00:03:36] I was gonna bring that up because this one of the episodes in this little block is very

[00:03:41] ghoul-centric.

[00:03:42] The episode title is actually The Ghouls and when I was watching that, I was gonna bring up

[00:03:47] that I thought that they looked pretty damn good in my opinion.

[00:03:52] So maybe they were a little bit shaky or maybe some weird lighting things were happening

[00:03:55] in those first three episodes.

[00:03:57] Yeah, and I think that should be all for our spoiler free section.

[00:04:01] Yeah, so if you have not seen episodes 4 through 6 of Fallout on Amazon Prime Video, now

[00:04:08] it would be a good time for you to head out if you care about spoilers.

[00:04:11] If you don't care about spoilers and you want to stick with us and hear our thoughts

[00:04:14] on these three episodes, feel free to stick around while we dive right into it.

[00:04:19] Also on a side note, all spoilers from games will be fair game.

[00:04:23] We will try and give you a little bit of a warning but just so you know, we will be discussing

[00:04:28] it so don't be too surprised if we spoil something.

[00:04:31] Especially with these three episodes, there's a lot to say about the games with this.

[00:04:36] Alright, now covering episode 4.

[00:04:39] It starts out with the ghoul and Lucy traveling through the wasteland after the ghoul's vials

[00:04:46] were broken in episode 3.

[00:04:49] They walk into an abandoned building where there is another ghoul and it seems that that

[00:04:57] ghoul is losing his sense of self and becoming quote unquote feral.

[00:05:03] The ghoul mentions apple pie trying to get his friend it seems like they used to be acquaintances

[00:05:14] or some sort into a happy mood before putting him out of his misery and then the ghoul

[00:05:20] harvests dead body for ass jerky meat.

[00:05:24] That was a really good line this episode.

[00:05:27] Ass jerky don't make itself.

[00:05:28] Yeah, I think before we move on to the rest of the episode I wanted to talk about that

[00:05:32] scene a little bit.

[00:05:33] It seemed like there were like older acquaintances slash maybe even kind of friendly right?

[00:05:40] Yeah, I would agree.

[00:05:42] Yeah, okay that's what I was thinking.

[00:05:45] Yeah, in that scene we get a little background on the ghoul's notoriety within the fallout

[00:05:51] universe kind of as a really renowned bounty hunter.

[00:05:56] Yeah and we get another pretty key piece of information from I think the ghoul's name

[00:06:02] was Roger that he was talking to and Roger says something about how he made it 28 years

[00:06:08] without turning feral and says that that's a pretty good run which makes me think that

[00:06:13] you know most ghouls out here they're going feral pretty quick and the ghoul are ghoul

[00:06:19] having lived for what is it almost 250 or so years now.

[00:06:24] That's an anomaly that's kind of wild something that doesn't really happen out in the wasteland

[00:06:29] right?

[00:06:30] I mean it's implied that he is special right?

[00:06:35] I think there's moments where people refer to him like special in comparison to other ghouls

[00:06:41] I think we're clearly shown that he has a crazy skill set compared to any person in the

[00:06:48] wasteland from his all out brawl earlier in the series but yeah that's just an interesting

[00:06:55] fact we get from Roger.

[00:06:58] The other thing that we get some clarification on is that these v- we had kind of suspected

[00:07:02] it but these vials are necessary for the ghouls to keep their sanity and not go feral.

[00:07:08] As far as I know this is an invention from the show in all of the games the ghouls don't

[00:07:14] need these vials to keep from going feral it's more of a thing that just time and radiation

[00:07:19] take their course and rot a ghouls brain and that's how they become feral but they've added

[00:07:25] this kind of vial mechanic where they need this medication to stay sane and it's a change

[00:07:30] that I think is pretty interesting.

[00:07:31] I like the depth and the struggle that it adds to being a ghoul in this universe.

[00:07:36] I was going to say since I'm not familiar with the games I didn't know whether or not they're

[00:07:40] in the games but I kind of like it I think it gives like a motivation for ghouls and

[00:07:47] the ghoul to keep going you know, to keep their humanity besides just doing whatever

[00:07:52] the hell they want until they go feral because there's no way to survive.

[00:07:57] It also adds this layer of I don't want to say necessarily a class divide but if you're

[00:08:02] a ghoul with skills like the ghoul and you can make money and buy these vials you're going

[00:08:07] to be pretty well off but if you are just an average wasteland who has found yourself

[00:08:11] turning into a ghoul you're likely going to go feral and it's going to be a bad time for

[00:08:16] you.

[00:08:17] I'm still curious as to see if we'll ever learn what the vials actually are you know,

[00:08:23] what do they actually do for them? Is it a special chemical or is it just like a combination of a

[00:08:29] ton of pain killers or something?

[00:08:31] Yeah, I wonder about that too. I hope we get some of those answers as we get further in the season

[00:08:36] or maybe a season two. I don't know since we haven't gotten to episode seven and eight yet

[00:08:41] I'm not sure if they set things up for a season two or if things are going to wrap up at the end

[00:08:45] of this season. Yeah, I'm hoping for a season two seeing how things are going now for sure.

[00:08:51] I am too. It seems like they've got a lot of stuff, a lot of irons in the fire if you will and

[00:08:57] I don't know if they can wrap it all up within one season nor do I think that they really want to.

[00:09:02] I think that they're hoping this will be a success and they can keep telling this story.

[00:09:06] All right, onto the next scene in the show of episode four. We are taken back to Vault 33 where we

[00:09:14] see Norm is on his own, seems like he's mourning the kidnapping of his father and being alone in

[00:09:23] this time, especially since his sister also is gone. But Betty comes up to him with a slice

[00:09:30] of what I believe to be rhubarb pie to comfort him and we kind of get a little background

[00:09:38] on their relationship and how Betty has been around for Norm since he was a small kid.

[00:09:46] They kind of have like an almost grandmother grandson relationship.

[00:09:51] I am starting to get some uneasy vibes from Betty in this scene. They aren't quite tipping

[00:09:57] in any direction yet but you can definitely tell that Norm is distrustful of pretty much everyone.

[00:10:03] Another thing that Betty tells him which is really important is that his voice carries a lot of

[00:10:08] weight in the vault. He's the last surviving or not last surviving. He's the last McLean in the vault.

[00:10:14] The other two are for all these vault dwellers now dead so his family name gives him a lot more

[00:10:20] half than he really gives himself credit for and the next scene in the episode is taking us back to

[00:10:27] the wasteland where the ghoul starts to refill his canteen of water in I think it was a tire right?

[00:10:36] I think it was yeah it was some dirty little puddle and a tire full with dirty murky gross

[00:10:44] irradiated water. Later on in the episode Lucy says she thinks it might have been animal piss that

[00:10:49] she was drinking. Yes maybe animal piss he starts drinking that and Lucy in her desperation for

[00:10:58] liquid also starts drinking it but she starts wretching I believe after she drinks it because

[00:11:04] it's so yucky. Can't really blame her for that one. Yeah shortly after a fight between her and the

[00:11:11] ghoul ensues where she's able to bite off his finger and run away but the ghoul lassoes her like a

[00:11:20] cowboy pulls her back in and chops her finger off. That was so nasty. The biting off of the finger you

[00:11:28] just you know that the ghoul has dirty fingers like that that was not a pleasant experience in any

[00:11:33] way shape or form. What do you mean? It was just like a carrot. Just like a carrot. It came off a little

[00:11:38] bit too easily I think. She just bit down and that finger popped right off his hand. Yeah I mean

[00:11:44] I don't have any experience biting off digits so I'll leave that to you. All right the next scene

[00:11:51] in episode four is when Stephanie the blonde haired woman who is Lucy's pregnant friend stops by

[00:12:00] Chet's home. Chet is the cousin whom Lucy was messing around with. She stops by Chet's home

[00:12:08] with some of her dead husband's belongings and she's basically tells him that she thought it would

[00:12:14] be like a waste of throw them away so she's seeing if he would like them and she basically takes out

[00:12:21] some of the belongings and likens Chet to her dead husband and asks Chet to wear his jacket.

[00:12:29] Is it a knitted jacket? It looked like a little sweater of some kind. Yeah it was like a sweater but

[00:12:36] I couldn't tell if she handmade it or if it was just his I don't know. She made Chet wear it and she

[00:12:42] put a scarf that she made for her husband around Chet and basically you're leaving out the most

[00:12:48] important piece of clothing. The shoes that were like a child's is the real-

[00:12:52] Yeah the child's eyes shoes that she asked Chet to wear which he did not put on because I think

[00:12:57] he would have torn them in half but yeah she put all this clothing on Chet and started calling him

[00:13:04] by her husband's name and making sexual advances on him and they were just about to have sex when

[00:13:13] she feels her child kicking and then her water breaks moving back a little bit to the scene where

[00:13:22] they're about to have sex. She's calling him Bert the dead husband's name and at one point this

[00:13:27] poor guy has such low self-esteem that he goes yes I am Bert that was ridiculous. Just a odd scene

[00:13:38] yeah I guess when three days ago you were in love with your cousin your your standards aren't

[00:13:43] really too high so I don't know Chet if you're out there you need some therapy my friend you need some

[00:13:49] help. Chet's just trying to get all the action he can. That man has no standards. He wants his

[00:13:56] talk to pop like a pimple. Yeah all right the next scene in this episode is where the

[00:14:06] goal brings Lucy to a super duper Mart and he talks into a receiver of some sorts telling

[00:14:15] the person on the other side that he has brought someone who is near mint condition considering

[00:14:21] she's missing a finger and sends Lucy into the building. Lucy meets a flying robot there which

[00:14:29] welcomes her pretty warmly is quite gentle with menly with her and repairs her injury gives her

[00:14:38] a new finger that is the color of ash it is like a rotted finger it looks like but it works just

[00:14:46] like new so good for Lucy and while she's telling the robot of her the horrible conditions she's faced

[00:14:54] under the ghouls apprehension of her the robot lets her know that he's going to harvest her organs

[00:15:01] and shoots a drink dart into her chest and she falls asleep. So this is a Mr. Handy robot made by

[00:15:08] General Atomics which is a company in the Fallout universe. The robot is being voiced by actor Matt

[00:15:14] Barry from what we do in the shadows who shows up later on in a flashback a couple episodes later.

[00:15:20] It's such great casting he's really got got this down he's hilarious as this robot. I was

[00:15:25] gonna say his voice and tenation as the robot were just so good and I think it was really funny when

[00:15:33] he was talking to her and just shot her with the trick dart. Yeah I also love when he's like

[00:15:38] a sex slave what a disgusting idea no I'm gonna harvest your organs. I also love the flawed robot

[00:15:46] logic of oh we can't have you missing a finger before we take your organs we got to fix you up

[00:15:52] before we tear you apart. Well I think it's because they're going to take your organs and then sell

[00:15:57] her as a slave right? Well I don't think she would still be around if they took her organs right

[00:16:01] unless they're only taking like a kidney or something. I don't know yeah that's true I mean

[00:16:07] I don't have any experience in the human trafficking business but it seems like it'd be more profitable

[00:16:13] to sell just like a kidney and then also sell a slave but I don't know. You know nothing about

[00:16:21] biting fingers off you know nothing about human trafficking what do you know about

[00:16:26] legal things? All right so the next scene in episode four is Norm taking a jello cake

[00:16:37] to the prisoners and before I get on with the scene I just want to know is jello cake in the fallout

[00:16:45] games or is that just for the show? It's like a thing from the 1950s so because it's actually

[00:16:51] like a real thing in real life. No yeah jello cake was a big thing in like the 50s and 60s people

[00:16:57] made jello everything back then like it was ridiculous. Wait I don't understand is it just like

[00:17:04] cake with jello on top or is it like cake with jello in it? I'm pretty sure it's cake with jello

[00:17:10] on top because I feel like cake with jello in it wouldn't be bad but the jello on top feels

[00:17:16] just weird. It's just I don't know I wouldn't be able to get past the weird texture all part of it

[00:17:21] like I don't the jello inside of cake and oh I don't know if I would be able to get past it

[00:17:27] I think it's kind of like that it has like jello in cake I'm pretty sure. If you're from the UK

[00:17:33] and you're listening right in let us know give us your feedback tell us what's happening

[00:17:39] yeah I don't know but I know there's something like it but I don't know okay

[00:17:44] I ought back to the scene but before Norm can give the jello cake to the prisoners he sees

[00:17:51] that the prison guard is looking at the jello cake almost ravenously and he hands it off to

[00:17:58] the prison guard saying no one will know whether or not he gave the jello cake to the prisoners so

[00:18:04] the prison guard takes the entire jello cake back to her room I thought she was just gonna take like

[00:18:10] a piece of it but she took the whole thing. Some people are so greedy. The next scene is where

[00:18:18] Norm convinces Chet to go with him to explore the ruins of vault 32 after picking rocks out of

[00:18:27] the way from the explosion that mold over caused they are able to crawl through the rubble into

[00:18:34] vault 32 where they see some pretty gruesome sight. Vault 32 is suffice it to say pretty banged

[00:18:42] up and not doing well you know the assumption would be that the raiders in moldaver did this right

[00:18:48] so they're going through the vault and they see things written in blood all around the vault they

[00:18:53] see all these corpses that seem to have strangled each other not been killed by the raiders. One of

[00:18:58] the things that really stuck out to me about these scenes that kind of point to the vaults being

[00:19:03] a little bit more to them than meets the eye is on one of the televisions the guy who killed himself

[00:19:09] by sticking a fork into a toaster is watching a TV that has the vault tech logo in the bottom right

[00:19:15] corner and it's all about an experiment where rats are put into close quarters with each other

[00:19:20] and not giving food and eat each other which why would that be a vault tech official video right?

[00:19:26] yeah i mean that's quite odd especially because i'm sure everything that's played on their tv

[00:19:32] is pre-recorded right because there's no new television programs happening so it seems a little

[00:19:39] weird that they're saving space for that i feel like the tv should definitely be something for

[00:19:44] entertainment you know or for education don't know how the rat thing is entertaining or even

[00:19:51] educational i mean i guess it teaches you a little bit but i don't think anything important

[00:19:56] for their survival you know definitely not and then the other really spooky detail was all of these

[00:20:03] vault dwellers uh or at least a bunch of them are piled up dead in front of the entrance to vault 31

[00:20:10] and written in blood it says we know what's in there yeah that's another point that i think was

[00:20:15] really interesting we're getting a lot of i don't know hints at something almost sinister

[00:20:21] happening in vault 31 but we'll get more into that later in the episode all right and our next

[00:20:28] scene in episode four is when Lucy wakes up tied down to a hospital bed before getting her organs

[00:20:37] harvested and she kind of goes bad ass mode here you know like James Bond escapes

[00:20:43] she kicks the robot in a way where it saw cuts her restraints and she defeats the robot in combat

[00:20:52] she then is able to use some acidic chemicals in combination with the robot's tranquilizer gun

[00:21:01] to subdue not subdue but like hold hostage yeah hold hostage her captors so that she can free

[00:21:10] all of the ghouls that are trapped in cages in the super duper mart and when they free them not

[00:21:16] all of the ghouls are freed for some reason and Lucy tells them to free them all but they warn her

[00:21:22] telling her that she doesn't want the rest of them freed but she still forces them by threatening

[00:21:27] to shoot them with her acidic dart and she gives them a little demonstration by shooting their couch

[00:21:33] so they free all of these ghouls which turn out to be feral and the captors and the ghouls all kill

[00:21:40] each other except for one last feral ghoul who's just on the brink of becoming feral calling herself

[00:21:47] Martha trying to remember herself but she ends up losing herself and attacking Lucy and she has

[00:21:53] killed her and learns about feral ghouls the hard way that was so sad that was kind of sad

[00:22:00] it was it was really tragic to hear Martha just repeating her name and Lucy trying to reach out

[00:22:07] one last time trying to make her remember her humanity and this poor ghoul loses herself

[00:22:14] and yeah it was just it was heartbreaking to see that happen and to know what would have happened

[00:22:19] to Roger if the ghoul hadn't shot him in the head even though earlier in the episode what the ghoul

[00:22:25] did was partially out of mercy and partially to eat Roger in the end I think that he did it more

[00:22:31] because he felt for Roger and knew where that situation was going and didn't want his acquaintance

[00:22:36] or friend or whatever he was to him to suffer living through life as a feral yeah that shout get

[00:22:42] sidetracked by bullshit every goddamn time such a good line such a good one that was pretty funny

[00:22:48] you know it also was a great line from this scene when Matt Barry or the Mr. Handy robot revs

[00:22:54] the song goes don't worry this won't hurt a bit yeah that was pretty good all right now we cut back

[00:23:02] to norm and chat in vault 32 and norm is going through the computer record and I believe the

[00:23:10] overseer's office in vault 32 and he's finding out he's trying to find out how mold over

[00:23:17] and the raiders got into the vault and he realizes that they used a pit boy actually to get into the

[00:23:25] vault and that it was in fact his own mother's pit boy that they got and used to get into the vault

[00:23:32] yeah so now we know that moldavers comment in episode one where she tells Lucy you look just like

[00:23:39] your mother there's definitely more to that absolutely without a doubt yep and then we cut back

[00:23:45] to Lucy after she's laying waste to the super duper mark she walks out front and sees the

[00:23:53] goal collapsed because he has not had his vials and she actually lays a handful of vials out right

[00:24:01] next to him talks about how she realizes what's going to happen to him if she doesn't get the vials

[00:24:07] and she basically says that's the golden rule bitch and walks off like a badass

[00:24:13] and it's a good call back to earlier in the episode where the ghoul is kind of taunting her being like

[00:24:18] how's your golden rule doing now and she tells him I may end up looking like you but I'm never

[00:24:24] gonna be like you yeah she's really coming into our own as a badass in this episode for sure

[00:24:30] before we move on I just wanted to say one more thing about the super duper mark in the games these

[00:24:36] are like all over the place and you in a few of them you get sent on quests to go and loot them

[00:24:41] and it was so hard for me to watch Lucy walk through this super duper mark without taking everything

[00:24:46] I was like a braxo cleaner you need that glue you need that every time I was like you need that

[00:24:50] it's crafting materials I was gonna say I saw on TikTok a video about the episode after I

[00:24:57] watched it and it was some guy saying how he surprised she doesn't have a backpack full of fans

[00:25:03] for some reason and I don't know what that's in reference to but that's kind of funny the fans

[00:25:08] give you screws in the game so like if you want to mod your weapons you need screws so you just

[00:25:14] pick up desk fans from all over the place so that you can mod your weapons that's pretty good all right

[00:25:20] our final scene of episode four is the ghoul after he's able to use some of the vials that Lucy saved

[00:25:28] for him he walks into the super duper mark and sees all the vials that the slave traders and organ

[00:25:37] harvesters basically we're hoarding and he becomes gluttony and it drinks like 10 of them and he's

[00:25:45] like he drinks like a bottle of either vodka or gin I believe he's just getting super fucked up and

[00:25:52] enjoying Lucy's wake of destruction within the super duper mark starts using the television

[00:25:59] the show episode ends on him watching the beginning of or not even the beginning just a scene from

[00:26:08] one of his westerns he filmed earlier in the series we saw in a flashback yeah he's

[00:26:15] yearning for the old days a little bit here he wants to remember his life as an actor probably

[00:26:21] of simpler time for him before being a ghoul and living in the god damn wasteland and getting

[00:26:26] sidetracked by bullshit every god damn time any closing thoughts or feelings on episode four

[00:26:33] the ghouls I thought that episode four was very very enjoyable we got a lot of background on ghoul

[00:26:42] lore not the ghoul but just like ghouls in general it was interesting to see a lot of the things we

[00:26:50] saw in this episode I thought exploring vault 32 was really interesting Lucy's bad asser you

[00:26:56] is pretty interesting the other thing that I thought was pretty interesting in this episode

[00:27:01] I'm assuming that these two guys in the super duper mark are manufacturing these vials right

[00:27:06] they didn't seem smart enough to be doing so but I don't know maybe the robot is doing the heavy

[00:27:11] lifting yeah maybe they've got all these ghouls locked up in the little glass tubes whatever and

[00:27:18] earlier in the episode it seems like when the ghoul cuts open his friend Roger and starts eating

[00:27:25] his organs and ass it it seems like that kind of sustains him a little bit in the same way that

[00:27:33] the vials would so I wonder if speculate if the vials are made out of ghouls I think that it's

[00:27:40] possible that you might need ghouls or ghoul blood or something like that in order to make this

[00:27:47] ghoul medication not the ghoul on ghoul violence yeah I I think that it's kind of pointing to

[00:27:54] that right maybe I didn't even think about that honestly I thought they were just holding them

[00:27:59] for slave trade I'm not gonna lie but pop off queen they very well could have been just holding

[00:28:05] them to sell later but they seem to have a lot of ghoul sitting there and at the same time like

[00:28:10] why would they be keeping the feral ghouls unless they had some kind of use for them that is a

[00:28:15] very good point especially because they could have just like executed them or whatever if they were

[00:28:21] like that much of a problem but they certainly do have value if they're keeping them caged up

[00:28:26] some for some reason let's move on to episode five but first let's take a quick break

[00:28:35] and we're back let's move on to episode five known as the past we open on thaddeus and maximus

[00:28:44] who is still posing as knight titus they're having a good time around the fire and maximus

[00:28:49] as a branding thaddeus and immediately reveals that he indeed is not titus they fight a little bit

[00:28:56] thaddeus takes his fusion core and maximus gets trapped in the power armor how fucked up is it

[00:29:03] that he branded him before telling him that shit yeah I was gonna say what the hell man

[00:29:10] I mean thaddeus even remarks at it he's like you've been branded me what the fuck I'm pretty sure

[00:29:18] also didn't he like crush that he is his ankle with the power armor too he did crush thaddeus

[00:29:25] his ankle with the power armor that that looked bad that guy is gonna be struggling to get that

[00:29:32] head across the wasteland after that injury poor thaddeus I kind of not I kind of feel bad for him

[00:29:37] I do feel bad for a maximus just keeps solidifying himself as a bad person I was gonna say thaddeus

[00:29:44] isn't a great person but he's honestly probably better than maximus as a person yeah I mean poor

[00:29:50] thaddeus was like titus and thaddeus the tea boys like we're we're gonna do everything together

[00:29:58] poor guy was so excited he thought that he was getting close with his knight and then

[00:30:03] maximus just turns around and ruins everything I don't know why maximus thought that that would go

[00:30:09] over well revealing himself to thaddeus yeah well I don't know if maximus can ever return to the

[00:30:15] brotherhood so yeah I kind of doubt it unless thaddeus just never makes it back and can't tell anyone

[00:30:22] about it he basically he would have to kill thaddeus and come up with this some crazy story right

[00:30:29] like you'd either have to be like titus died and that was me over the intercom and thaddeus got

[00:30:35] here and he died which which would be weirder than him being like I guess I didn't actually die

[00:30:41] titus left me for dead thaddeus killed thaddeus and then I killed thaddeus yeah no matter what

[00:30:48] he's gonna have to get a story straight because he's kind of fucked isn't he yeah all right moving

[00:30:53] on to the next scene lucy finds maximus trapped in the power armor and saves him after they go back

[00:30:59] and forth for a little bit lucy is understandably not in the mood to be trusting people at the moment

[00:31:05] but once maximus promises her a little bit of radaway because she's got radiation poisoning uh he

[00:31:11] finally gets led out of the power armor she kind of geeks out over the power armor too I thought that

[00:31:16] was fun yeah she has more knowledge on it than him it seems like almost and it almost seems like

[00:31:22] she might have some sort of power armor training not physical but maybe through I don't know

[00:31:28] television video reading something yeah I don't know if they have this in her vault but simulations

[00:31:34] are like a thing in the fallout universe it's kind of like rare technology it's here and there

[00:31:40] not all over the place so it's all it's possible that she could have done like power armor training

[00:31:45] in a simulation too which would be pretty cool anyways she collapses and maximus catches her before

[00:31:52] she falls to the ground next we see norm and chat get back to vault 33 and Betty is questioning

[00:31:59] them she's like where were you to why did you both look so dirty and warm lies about picking potatoes

[00:32:07] I think yeah they're like oh we're planting tatos don't worry it was so funny that the moment they

[00:32:13] get back they're trying to figure out their story and checkos it doesn't matter if someone asks

[00:32:17] some I'm gonna have a heart attack yeah the immediate grilling by Betty after that was so good

[00:32:24] poor chap man how'd they make me feel bad for a guy who's in love with his cousin I know right

[00:32:29] why do I feel so fucking bad for him he's not a good guy he fucks his cousin yeah it's uh

[00:32:39] moving on to the next scene we see Lucy and Maximus making a little deal with each other to

[00:32:44] head off together I don't have much more to say about this scene it was a pretty short one yeah they

[00:32:49] kind of got straight to the point with it and we move on to vault 33 election day where

[00:32:54] Davie the guy with the really bushy mustache tells redge that he's gonna be voting for Betty

[00:33:00] and redge really doesn't want to hear it he's like we have private voting booths you don't

[00:33:05] have to tell me anything man yeah but Davie just keeps going on and on about he's not gonna vote for

[00:33:10] redge so the voting happens and even redge himself goes on who am I kidding in casts his vote for Betty

[00:33:17] instead of himself then we move on to Lucy asking Maximus for a history lesson of what's happening

[00:33:24] the last 200 years she goes we know everything that happened up until the bombs drop but what happens

[00:33:30] in the 200 years after that and then Maximus goes well the bombs dropped when I was a kid which is

[00:33:37] really Lucy's like what the hell are you talking about man the drop bombs dropped over 200 years ago

[00:33:42] yeah right I mean I was a little confused there and I think that was just Maximus lying right

[00:33:47] they're not lying but just being wrong right well we're gonna get to this later in the episode but

[00:33:52] I think it was more of a hint that he was talking about some different bomb yeah you show up at

[00:33:57] the NCR right yeah so that was a good little hint to that actually I thought that was pretty clever

[00:34:04] the way that they fit that in moving on to norm back inside of the vault we find out that every

[00:34:10] overseer in their little triple vault situation from 32 and 33 have all been from vault 31 every single

[00:34:18] one in all of history now that really starts to raise some questions about what's really going on

[00:34:24] here this is a trend that kind of continues with Betty who's just been elected to be the overseer

[00:34:30] of vault 33 even her own father Lucy's own father was from vault 31 and it's just it really starts

[00:34:39] to make you question what's happening we also learn in the next scene that Stephanie is from vault

[00:34:44] 31 now she finishes up her shower norm is chatting with chat but before Norm leaves their little

[00:34:50] apartment he stops and asks Stephanie what life was like in vault 31 yeah and she basically just

[00:34:57] gives some lame generic answers saying the mashed potatoes were better to which norm remarks that's

[00:35:03] the same thing his father told him which is kind of suspicious you know it leads on to the thing

[00:35:09] or the idea of maybe them having a script they're not really supposed to give away what's actually

[00:35:15] happening in vault 31 maybe some nefarious things are going on behind the scenes the people from

[00:35:21] vault 31 also seem to be probably intentionally a lot more competent I want to say a little more

[00:35:28] gifted I mean we see during the raider invasion her father is like taken fools out you know he's

[00:35:35] he's kind of a good fighter not only that I mean being elected to over series to probably

[00:35:40] demonstrated his intelligence we see Betty is quite the manipulator we're seeing and we see

[00:35:46] Stephanie was also quite the fighter she got the fork in the eye and still laid the wombo combo on

[00:35:52] the raider so well pregnant too yes exactly in our next scene we finally find out one of the answers

[00:36:00] to our big question from last week and that is where the fuck is the NCR Lucy and Maximus walk

[00:36:08] into the ruins of shady sands the former capital of the NCR which had a population at its peak of

[00:36:16] over 34,000 people they come upon a crater and find Lucy finds out that shady sands was nuked I have

[00:36:24] a little question yes I know we're talking about it I think in our previous podcast episode but

[00:36:30] you're saying the NCR was built around a huge nuke right like a deactivated one no so that was

[00:36:37] megaton from fallout three which is on the east coast okay I was gonna say did that shit just go

[00:36:43] wrong but nevermind no yeah and Lucy gets there and she's just in shock she's like you know this

[00:36:51] place what how could this have happened reclamation day didn't happen the vaults didn't open and

[00:36:57] Maximus has to kind of look at her and be like without saying anything she has to come to the

[00:37:02] conclusion that oh the vaults did open the world was repopulated and nuclear annihilation happened

[00:37:09] again and we missed literally all of it 200 years of history a whole new nation and we were not

[00:37:15] here for any of it that has to hurt it kind of also lends shade to vault tech you know it's kind

[00:37:22] of weird that not all the vaults are so opening at the same time when it's actually safe to explore

[00:37:28] the surface seems that a lot more than meets the eye is happening with vault tech yeah we're really

[00:37:35] getting a lot of hints to that between the stuff that we saw last episode happening in vault 32 all

[00:37:40] of this stuff about vault 31 electing overseers to the other vaults things are just getting really

[00:37:46] suspicious in this episode with them after they see the basically nukeed out NCR shady sands they

[00:37:55] explore a little further and they find a hospital which honestly is not even that damage considering

[00:38:01] the surroundings because of Maximus's injury from their encounter with the fiends we got shot in

[00:38:07] the arm lucy decides to go in in search of first aid or any help that they can get for him and they

[00:38:14] get separated and while Maximus is chasing after her trying to find her he gets trapped in a

[00:38:21] basically a trap an actual trap where there's a false door handle and he gets like sleeping gassed

[00:38:28] the vault that they fall into is unknown at this point but we did see as they were walking into

[00:38:34] this vault that it had the vault tech logo on there or i'm sorry on the hospital that they were

[00:38:39] walking into it had the vault tech logo or at least like a version of it and they were calling

[00:38:44] this Hawthorne subsidiaries or Hawthorne labs a subsidiary of vault tech which is a new thing it might

[00:38:51] be like maybe a chain of hospitals owned by vault tech we know that vault tech had their

[00:38:55] fingers and everything they had investments and a lot of stuff in the fallout universe before the war

[00:39:00] so vault 33 we cut back to vault 33 and they have come up with a idea betty wants the citizens of

[00:39:08] vault 33 to take part in a repopulation and resettlement campaign of vault 32 all the vault

[00:39:14] dwellers decide that they're going to do a tour of vault 32 they go check it out everything is cleaned

[00:39:20] up the dead bodies are gone the blood is painted over and this place that we saw just an episode

[00:39:27] ago that was completely destroyed and disgusting is all cleaned up yeah we see norm having basically

[00:39:35] flashbacks as he's walking through vault 32 seeing all the dead bodies and items that were used

[00:39:43] for suicide or to kill others put back in place and he's just he's so distraught and disgusted almost

[00:39:51] in betty finds him in the overseer's office and they kind of have like a little weird interaction

[00:39:59] you could tell she's almost on to him he doesn't make it very hard for her to be on him because

[00:40:05] he immediately is like oh great job cleaning up in here you know well I mean I think they already

[00:40:11] knew like he had seen the carnage right or some of it because he went in there and then he ran back

[00:40:19] and he was like warning people he was like something's wrong vault 32 is like fucked and was that

[00:40:26] episode one I believe right episode one or two yeah I don't know if she knew about him doing that

[00:40:32] but I don't know so either he did give himself away for snooping around in there early or

[00:40:39] he's just going along with what they know yeah I guess they do definitely know that raiders were

[00:40:45] in that vault so no matter what I guess him saying oh great job cleaning up isn't that weird for

[00:40:50] him to mention because it would have been a mess whether it was what actually happened or the story

[00:40:55] that they're going with about how the vault got destroyed do you think that the vault was cleaned

[00:41:01] by the citizens of vault 31 or whoever is living in vault 31 they had to have done it right that's

[00:41:07] exactly what my theory was going to be is Betty contacted her like 31 groupmate partners you know

[00:41:14] she's like I need this done and they did that shit while she was running shit in 33 unless it comes

[00:41:20] out that she has like a group of like 10 loyalists with her and they spent fucking weeks cleaning

[00:41:25] that I don't see how she could get away with that scale of job with even a large group of loyalists

[00:41:35] from 33 without literally everyone finding out you know yeah she definitely had to have contacted

[00:41:41] vault 31 and been like we need a cleanup crew in here immediately shit went down and we can't

[00:41:46] have them finding out about this either that or something even crazier she has like

[00:41:51] bowl over and her people come back into the vault and clean that shit up which I think it's

[00:41:57] definitely has to do with 31 though yeah I don't know if it would be moldaver I think that

[00:42:03] moldaver is definitely anti-volte tech anti-volte yeah for sure I mean we see some of that later

[00:42:09] all right before we move on to episode six any closing thoughts or notes um Lucian Maximus

[00:42:16] wake up in a vault is the closing episode scene but yeah other than that this episode was

[00:42:24] really entertaining to me actually I thought this was one of the best episodes of the season so far

[00:42:31] the mystery was really alluring to me I really like mystery so trying to figure out what the

[00:42:37] fuck is going on with these three faults in their triplet and 31 basically probably controlling

[00:42:43] the strings of it all I'm really into that seeing Thaddeus's reaction to Maximus revealing himself

[00:42:51] you know I think they did the best possible thing they could have done writing wise with that I

[00:42:56] think that was the most realistic reaction we could have gotten yeah I wish I could have seen

[00:43:01] Maximus and Thaddeus make up and become friends but you know they're raised practically in a cult

[00:43:07] like scenario so it makes sense that Thaddeus is wildly more I don't know loyal to the brotherhood

[00:43:14] than Maximus yeah and seeing norms and Betty's relationship develop from almost grand motherly love

[00:43:22] till suspicious like sneaking suspicion of betrayal is kind of kind of interesting I'm really liking

[00:43:28] that character development I am continually impressed by the world building that they're doing in this

[00:43:33] the way that they're adding upon all of the lore that's in the games with the whole destruction of

[00:43:38] the ncr and continuing on with trying to build up the mystery around Vault Tech and this episode didn't

[00:43:45] have anything to do with the ghoul in his backstory but that's also a really interesting thing that

[00:43:50] they're doing so many of these plots like what's happening in the vault I think that could have been

[00:43:54] easily like a boring sea plot that no one really cares about and you're just thinking to yourself oh

[00:43:59] I can't wait till we get back to the wasteland like I don't want to hear about this but they really

[00:44:04] made it interesting you know yeah they're doing a really good job introducing the lore to new

[00:44:10] comers for sure at least like for me going in with little to no knowledge on fallout I mean

[00:44:16] I don't feel lost in any way I mean sometimes I do but not in a bad way you know like they're

[00:44:23] introducing shit and I'm learning and I'm I'm hungry for more you know I'm excited for the next

[00:44:29] episodes I'm really enjoying it so far I think they're doing it in a digestible manner too you know

[00:44:35] that it's not like I'm getting 10 minutes of exposition at the beginning and end of every episode

[00:44:40] explaining shit like they're really having a good they're doing a good job having characters

[00:44:44] introduce shit into the world and and we can learn along with Lucy yeah it's really cool that

[00:44:52] for new comers to the series who've never played a fallout game before Lucy is the audience in

[00:44:57] that way she doesn't know anything about the wasteland and as she's learning everything the

[00:45:01] audience is getting to learn and even if you've played the fallout games before this hall takes place

[00:45:06] at least a decade after the last fallout game so there's so much that the fallout players don't

[00:45:12] know and learning everything along with her has been super enjoyable it's a great way it's the

[00:45:17] way that all the fallout games operate where you are sort of this fish out of water and you

[00:45:22] learn have to learn about the environment as you explore it I think this show is doing it in a

[00:45:26] pretty incredible way I'm liking the way that they're introducing these concepts to everyone

[00:45:31] let's move on to episode six chase take it away

[00:45:35] episode six titled the trap opens up with Cooper better known as the ghoul doing commercial

[00:45:44] for vault tech showing off vault four where it is specified that vault four is doing a five years

[00:45:54] trial period with people right now in the current setting of the commercial being aired with only

[00:46:02] scientists that will be living in vault four vault four is going to be a little prominent later on

[00:46:08] in the episode and when he finishes filming the commercial a man approaches him and talks about

[00:46:14] how he's bud askins who helped develop I believe the t45 power armor and was kind of bragging about

[00:46:22] it a little bit but Cooper kind of stabs back talking about how when he served in the war in Alaska

[00:46:29] against the Russians it was actually the Chinese that they fought against oh the Chinese oh

[00:46:35] when he said communist and Alaska I thought Russians no yeah that's uh we can get into the lore

[00:46:41] after you finish this but I'll I'll give a little explanation in a second all right yeah because

[00:46:45] I mean later on we can also talk about it yeah gets a little more into quote unquote commies yeah um

[00:46:52] yeah he kind of stabs back he's like you know I had to wear the t45 and a lot of my friends did

[00:46:59] and that shit kind of sucked you know a lot of the issues that you ship that suit of armor out with

[00:47:06] got a lot of people that I cared about killed so he doesn't like bud at all as he's walking away

[00:47:13] to talk to his wife he calls bud buck I think in a little hostile manner probably deserved it but yeah

[00:47:20] and he he's he's getting a little flirtatious with his wife he's he's trying to get her into the hot

[00:47:26] tub you know um but she tells him they actually have to go to a party and he's like what the heck

[00:47:32] I don't want to go to a stupid party and she's like well it's at our house so boohoo

[00:47:38] the other thing that I thought was really great about this scene was how clueless bud

[00:47:43] ascans is to the fact that Cooper just wants nothing to do with him Cooper obviously has some hatred

[00:47:48] towards him because of the whole power armor thing and bud is just not reading the room whatsoever

[00:47:54] yeah self-absorbed to say the least absolutely our next scene in episode six is actually at

[00:48:01] Cooper's house you could see him preparing to go down to see all of his guests uh he's playing

[00:48:08] with his dog he's getting his suit ready he goes down and he basically ignores all the guests

[00:48:14] he's smoking a cigarette gets a martini and he walks outside where he sees someone he's friendly

[00:48:21] with who turns out to be his only friend at the party all the other people he invited weren't able

[00:48:26] to show up because they were having a quote unquote commy meeting he kind of reminisces about his

[00:48:33] war days with this friend and how their hollywood stars now and he's grateful for that they talk a

[00:48:39] little bit about how all of their friends are becoming communists they kind of imply that that's

[00:48:46] the reason why none of them wanted to show up because they hate Cooper for being I guess what

[00:48:51] they see is a corporate sellout right i mean yeah he is that the face of vault tech now commercially

[00:48:59] technically he's doing all the commercials he's he wore the suit with the thumbs up you know and

[00:49:05] we're getting a little insight to even back in this time before the bombs dropped people were seeing

[00:49:12] that vault tech was pretty shady there's a lot of weird stuff going on but behind the scenes that

[00:49:17] people don't trust about vault tech that's that's probably why they didn't want to associate

[00:49:21] themselves with him here or go to this party not only because Cooper's the face of vault tech right

[00:49:26] now it's also because there's a ton of powerful vault tech people at this party it's probably all

[00:49:32] vault tech people being a rap party for the vault tech commercial for vault four the other thing

[00:49:39] that gets told to Cooper by his friend here who voices the mr. handy robot who i think his name

[00:49:44] is Sebastian yes tells Cooper that his good friend charlie white knife who he served with in Alaska

[00:49:51] fighting against the communists and china or the chinese communists is going to these communist

[00:49:57] meetings that uh Sebastian was talking about a little bit earlier and Cooper is just appalled he's

[00:50:03] like oh they got to charlie how did they get to charlie he and i fought alongside each other we're

[00:50:07] brothers Cooper's pretty distraught about that yeah and then we flicker back to i guess the present

[00:50:15] in the wasteland where the ghoul is sort of out of sorts since he's intoxicated still in the

[00:50:22] super duper mart and i think these dressed like sheriffs people walk in and apprehend him thinking

[00:50:30] he caused all of the destruction in chaos within the super duper mart and he doesn't really do anything

[00:50:37] to disabuse them of that notion he's just kind of like oh well i guess this is where we are yeah it

[00:50:43] does seem that the ghoul is kind of a go with the flow kind of guy you know he's just he's

[00:50:49] he's rolling with the punches yeah for real he seems like he has the mindset of no matter what

[00:50:55] happens to him who takes them he's good enough to figure it out and do whatever it takes to get

[00:51:00] out of the situation he has no worries in the world maybe he's just not afraid of dying he's like

[00:51:06] i've lived long enough if it happens it happens or maybe he just has that much confidence in his

[00:51:11] abilities our next scene is pretty big one where we cut back to lucy and maximus receiving

[00:51:18] medical attention in the vault where they're welcome to stay by one of the higher ups

[00:51:23] and it kind of camera angles pans out and we see they're actually in a room with a label card

[00:51:30] saying test subject and we cut to them now eating lunch in that same vault where we realized

[00:51:38] they're involved for which was the one that Cooper was doing an ad for with all scientists so

[00:51:44] you know it gets it gets a little hairy we're getting a little we're getting a little info what

[00:51:50] the heck is going on here you know so they're eating lunch they kind of see that a lot of the

[00:51:55] residents in this vault have like mutations of sorts the overseer has a single eye in the middle

[00:52:03] of his head that's also a large eye there's another guy with two noses we see a lady with glowing

[00:52:10] eyes something's going on in here we don't know what but something for sure we got a little bit

[00:52:16] of a clue for of that one Cooper was doing the commercial the scientist or the chief scientist

[00:52:21] in the commercial said that some of the experiments that they were doing was testing the effects

[00:52:26] of radiation on the human body so that gives us a little bit of insight into maybe how these

[00:52:32] vault dwellers got the mutations that they did yeah our next scene in episode six is Cooper and Barb

[00:52:39] are finally in their hot tub you know Cooper really wanted to get into that hot tub earlier now he's

[00:52:45] finally in it and once again he's drinking a martini loves his martinis i think he mentions it's

[00:52:50] made with gin my kind of martini my kind of martini but then Barb gets out of the hot tub start

[00:52:57] trying herself off putting some clothing back on Cooper is confused because she she puts a pit

[00:53:03] boy on and he's like what what's that for why do you need that and she's like I she basically

[00:53:11] is just like a sucker for vault tech you know she she's um I don't know how to word it she's just

[00:53:17] she's just following the vault tech rules i'm assuming yeah she's very much drinking the cool aid

[00:53:24] you could say yeah so after this Cooper goes to a bar to see his friend i think something white

[00:53:34] knife right that was Charlie white Charlie white knife and they're Charlie invites him to one of

[00:53:41] their meetings but Cooper seems apprehensive but still takes the business card i think it's like a

[00:53:47] funeral home they talk a little bit about how Barb works for vault tech and Cooper asks him you know

[00:53:56] how how could vault tech possibly be bad if Barb works there you know it my wife is a good person

[00:54:02] how could she ever work for a corporation that would be bad it's just not possible and Charlie is

[00:54:07] like yeah i like Barb i respect her but vault tech is pretty evil you got to find out what they

[00:54:12] actually do true and in our next scene here we see Cooper and Barb having dinner and they're kind

[00:54:20] of just they start to discuss vault tech a little bit and they have an argument and it does seem

[00:54:27] kind of like Barb is implying in this argument that the nuclear fallout the bombs dropping is

[00:54:33] something that's going to be inevitable you know she's she's talking about how she's doing all

[00:54:37] of this to secure them a spot in a good vault which is kind of also implicative of some other

[00:54:44] nefarious things happening but yeah she it kind of goes into what Charlie was saying when they're

[00:54:50] having drinks that it's it's vault tech's duty to assure the fallout happens considering their

[00:54:58] vaults yeah it's the financial I don't i'm not a business guy so i don't know the or remember

[00:55:04] the exact term but it's the responsibility of the corporation to have a return for its investors

[00:55:11] and if the end of the world isn't going to happen then what do you need vault tech for how

[00:55:15] are they gonna make money if they can't sell the vault and it made me start to distrust Barb a

[00:55:20] little bit in this dinner scene because she definitely knows about what's going on at vault tech

[00:55:25] the whole common about i'm trying to get us in one of the good vaults she definitely tipped off

[00:55:30] that she knows what's happening with these vaults she's not stupid she's not off on the

[00:55:34] sideline she's like in the thick of it top brass at vault tech she knows I was gonna say I feel

[00:55:40] she's I feel like in her head she's trying to do the right thing she got into this vault tech

[00:55:45] business probably moved up the ranks realized what's gonna happen and thought her only way of preserving

[00:55:52] her family was through continuing to do what vault tech says and does and preserving them a spot

[00:55:58] in one of the good vaults you know from what we've seen it seems like she's not a bad mother

[00:56:02] she's not a bad wife it's just that the way things are it's probably too late for her to make a

[00:56:08] significant change you know try and do anything to stop vault tech so she's just going along with

[00:56:14] it riding the wave trying to save her family yeah people do desperate things when desperate times

[00:56:20] come up and it's not a bad thing to want to protect your family when the end of the world is coming

[00:56:26] when you know the end of the world is coming and you don't think there's anything you can do about it

[00:56:30] I however immoral it might be that she knows about everything and isn't saying anything you can't

[00:56:36] really blame her for it yeah and then after their disagreement at dinner we cut back to Lucy

[00:56:45] and vault four where she's talking to the overseer vault four who's a piece of work that guy's an

[00:56:51] asshole he eat like what the heck is wrong with this guy so glad he drank that moldy fucking coffee

[00:56:59] but yeah basically he warns her against going to the 12th floor he kicks her out of his office

[00:57:05] actually after she mentions the 12th floor but yeah he's just not he's not a good guy don't even

[00:57:12] know how he got elected but yeah man was such a dick he was like oh what is it like to live in

[00:57:18] a vault that doesn't have outsiders like just classic xenophobia lines that this dude is spewing out

[00:57:26] of the guy with the cyclops eye too which is a great part the man with the cyclops eye genetic

[00:57:32] mutation is going off on an anti-refugee tangent like oh my god and the way he's like oh you I

[00:57:39] have to lie about not liking refugees when I am up for election I have to pretend I actually care

[00:57:46] about them it's like oh my god what a fucking asshole but yeah then we we see Maximus we see

[00:57:53] Maximus's side of things in the vault he's happy to see his armor but realizes that it's of no

[00:57:59] use if he doesn't have a fusion core so he kind of explores throughout the vault he asks someone

[00:58:04] to show him where they get their energy from and he finds their fusion core and right as he's

[00:58:10] basically about to steal it the person who I think is the puppet master in this vault who

[00:58:17] is shown to be like second-in-command I forget her name catches him but she doesn't confront him

[00:58:22] about that she invites him to stay in room 428 where Maximus goes and finds luxuries of all sorts

[00:58:32] he finds caviar oysters a ton of snacks and treats he takes his first hot shower what it seems like

[00:58:39] right he gets a nice robe and slippers that he loves but yeah he's just really he's enjoying

[00:58:46] himself most undeservedly though yeah I mean I would be enjoying myself too if I were him and I

[00:58:52] only ever lived in the wasteland yeah I've never had caviar what the hell I want some caviar

[00:58:58] I want some caviar too what the hell why'd they give him such a big tin save some for the rest of us

[00:59:05] no seriously and I want to know do they have like hydroponic farms with fish and everything happening

[00:59:11] in this fall where they're still searching at yeah and another little note I don't think that we

[00:59:18] talked about this earlier like we skipped over this detail but the woman who finds him her

[00:59:23] and all of the other refugees are survivors of the nuke going off its shady sands oh yeah that does

[00:59:31] yeah that does out up I mean I think we get in that a little bit in the next scene yeah where

[00:59:36] Lucy explores the classroom and she finds them teaching the history of shady sands and the NCR

[00:59:45] actually and she kind of she kind of gets her history lesson that way from what's left on the

[00:59:49] chalkboard I mean it's very rudimentary but it gets the point across of the fallout NCR being

[00:59:56] founded and the second fallout basically yeah I mean Lucy has got to be just kind of an all a

[01:00:03] little bit at the fact that in the time that she was in her vault not knowing what was going on in

[01:00:08] the outside world this entire country that was basically had almost the same amenities as old

[01:00:14] world America was kind of thriving for nearly or maybe even over a hundred years because the

[01:00:22] timeline seemed like it the NCR lasted for a good long while they had a good run before the bombs

[01:00:28] dropped and I don't know whether or not there's an implication that the NCR was sort of they were

[01:00:33] starting to fall apart before the bombs hit we don't know if shady sands was the only place that

[01:00:38] the bomb hit or whether it was all of the NCR but yeah she's missed a lot of history and the people

[01:00:45] of this vault are trying to keep that history alive with having an NCR flag in the classroom I also

[01:00:50] noticed they had some pretty cool looking NCR like propaganda and military recruitment posters hanging

[01:00:56] around too yeah and while she's exploring that she sees a large group of vault wellers walking by

[01:01:03] before she follows them some one of the vault wellers who isn't a who wasn't a surface

[01:01:09] dweller and was just from the vault kind of gives her a little warning saying that whatever she's

[01:01:13] about to get into gets pretty rowdy she follows suit anyways this is a fun scene I'm excited to

[01:01:20] break this one down a little bit yeah from here we cut to the ghoul being taken by the sheriffs

[01:01:28] to who they're referring to as the president and when he gets there he realizes he knows this guy

[01:01:35] used to do bounties for him and the guy kind of brags that the ghoul is the man you know he was

[01:01:40] the greatest bounty hunter in the land for a while and while while he's talking to the president

[01:01:45] since they're on such friendly terms he gets he gets he gets his makeshift shackles untied

[01:01:51] and he sows his own finger back on and then kills the sheriffs but then that cuts away back to

[01:02:00] Cooper going to the funeral home for the quote unquote commie meeting where he sees his buddy charlie

[01:02:09] and he's talking to him but then he meets mold over yeah that was a big reveal that was a really

[01:02:15] big reveal and at the same time that this is happening he looks at the poster inside of in like

[01:02:22] the modern day when when he's ghoulified he sees a poster of mold over and is like how do you know

[01:02:28] or if this isn't what I remember her looking like yeah which is kind of weird how was she live so long

[01:02:33] you know that's that's what I want to know she's not a ghoul or at least she doesn't look like a ghoul

[01:02:39] maybe she's wondering if they're doing some cloning shit with her or maybe like cryogenic

[01:02:46] frozen yeah I don't know what happened with her but I'm sure we'll get an answer to how she has

[01:02:51] survived so long yeah and then we get to cut back to Lucy where she starts to participate in this

[01:02:57] I don't even know ritual or ceremony of sorts and it turns pretty bad pretty quickly and she sees

[01:03:05] like I think they're drinking like human blood it seems like they've sacrificed someone

[01:03:11] they're all naked she gets really worried and bolts finds Magnus not Magnus Maximus try to

[01:03:18] stick a Vincent to leave but fails he loves his robe and slippers too much and then she decides

[01:03:24] she's gonna get some more concrete evidence to convince him with so she goes down to floor 12

[01:03:32] where that she sees they've been experimenting on humans she watches a video where a lady gives

[01:03:38] birth to like a hundred of the fucking axolotl thingies that we saw earlier and they eat her alive

[01:03:45] and she gets caught down there and it cuts away to the last scene with Maximus happily eating popcorn

[01:03:53] right in front of a television during the whole little ceremony that they have we also find out

[01:03:57] that they are revering moldaver who they call the flame mother yes they had like a huge post

[01:04:06] they're not poster but flag almost of her so last week when we recorded our episodes one through

[01:04:13] three review you had a theory that moldaver was with the NCR and that's looking like it's

[01:04:19] turning out to be pretty true right yeah I thought that but yeah I mean this seems like that makes

[01:04:25] sense that she's part of the NCR before it's fall or for some reason I don't know still a little

[01:04:31] lost on where and what moldavers up to who she is what she's doing I'm sure we're gonna learn

[01:04:37] that in the next two episodes though considering how well they've answered my questions and mysteries

[01:04:44] so far with these next coming with these episodes we just saw I have no doubt this show is gonna

[01:04:50] end off strong so now that that's the end of episode six we want to get into some closing thoughts

[01:04:57] theories for where the show is heading oh yeah okay so back to Betty I do think she called up

[01:05:04] Vault 31 had them clean it up I think Vault 31 is just a vault were they basically condition

[01:05:11] all of their dwellers to be overseers train them to control the other two vaults in their little

[01:05:16] triplet I think that they have some form of outside contact you know I think that because the

[01:05:24] father knew moldaver and so and the mother to there just has to be some reason for them to

[01:05:30] be outside I mean I still have my theory that the mother is a surface dweller who they took in

[01:05:37] for some reason somehow I don't know that one's kind of dwindling though I think it's more

[01:05:43] reasonable that 31 has some form of contact with the surface yeah I think that another thing that

[01:05:50] lends to that theory in episode four like right at the beginning the ghoul asks Lucy what her name is

[01:05:57] and when she says that her name is Lucy McLean he kind of pauses for a minute and goes McLean as if

[01:06:02] he heard the name before so I think maybe he knows her dad and is that kind of lends to the theory

[01:06:08] that either he's from the surface or Vault 31 has contact with the surface or at the very least

[01:06:15] him and his wife have been outside the vault at some point yeah you know it was kind of weird

[01:06:20] to think too when her father was talking back at the wedding how their kids were going to be ready

[01:06:26] to repopulate the surface and it's it's almost convenient you know the the NCR has like almost just

[01:06:33] fallen they're getting ready to repopulate after that maybe do you think it was like Vault 31

[01:06:39] and Vault tech that did it I kind of do considering Moldaver like you know she came for revenge basically

[01:06:46] you know yeah that maybe that's what's going on she came for revenge she got Lucy's father maybe he

[01:06:51] was to mastermind behind or part of it behind the NCR's fall yeah I mean what we've seen of him

[01:06:58] he just seems so innocent and like he's not really capable of doing anything horrible or wrong to

[01:07:06] I don't know anyone I don't he doesn't seem like the type of guy who would even want to hurt a fly

[01:07:10] but the more we learn about Vault 31 and knowing that he's from there and knowing that the ghoul at least

[01:07:17] recognizes the name that he knows Moldaver it's just all kind of pointing towards maybe Lucy's

[01:07:24] dad is the real villain in all this yeah that's that's kind of what I was thinking a little bit as my

[01:07:29] theory for what's gonna happen I mean I'm sure I could be proved wrong I don't see them having

[01:07:35] some lame twist at the end I think they're gonna do some great things with this show so far I'm

[01:07:41] really happy with what they're doing I think so over on the discord there've been some people who've

[01:07:48] watched the whole series and they seem to be praising the show a lot so I think that we're in for

[01:07:52] a good two final episodes speaking of the discord do 71 over on the discord answered one of the

[01:07:59] questions that we had last week about the vertebrates dropping people in oh actually okay that's

[01:08:05] that's nice uh dove is x forces and he explained that me one moment to actually pull up the message

[01:08:13] oh I see it it's typical military doctrine for a hostile insertion halos etc are key bits of

[01:08:22] equipment and are vulnerable to oh he loves like helicopters oh I see I see I see

[01:08:29] and vulnerable to small arms fire so you don't expose them on the ground if you can help it okay

[01:08:36] so that makes sense and we appreciate the explanation thank you for sharing your knowledge with us

[01:08:42] yeah I think I think I kind of was thinking about that because I was like they do that with

[01:08:47] paratroopers but yeah that that makes a lot more sense though for sure especially since I'm sure

[01:08:52] everyone in the wasteland would love a vertebrate if they could take one absolutely oh those things

[01:08:58] are nice look at aren't they those are sick dude give me one of those no actually I've probably crash it

[01:09:05] though I can barely drive a car without hitting something I think that as far as theories go maybe

[01:09:15] the other theory I have is I don't know that what's happening in vault four maybe it's not as

[01:09:21] kind of nefarious as it seems you know they all these people are survivors of shady sands maybe

[01:09:27] the religious ceremony just seems kind of weird to an outsider yeah but on floor 12 though I guess

[01:09:33] so it is pretty yeah they're keeping women in little pods yeah it's not great I don't know maybe

[01:09:39] the shady sands refugees don't know what's happening but the like mutated vault dwellers they're behind

[01:09:46] that oh I don't know the overseer doesn't seem smart enough to kind of put that one together I don't

[01:09:51] think he's in on it yeah you think it's the shady sands refugees that are doing it well no I think

[01:09:57] it's it's probably a combination for sure I don't think everyone's in on it though but I think

[01:10:02] he's just like a puppet I think the like long black hair lady has taken the reins you know I

[01:10:09] think she's she's manipulating everyone she's controlling things from behind the scenes oh wait a

[01:10:14] second vault four was supposed to be run by scientists yeah what if there's like a secret portion

[01:10:21] of the vault oh and they're all just doing a social experiment yeah what if they're behind the scenes

[01:10:28] trying to control things I would not be surprised I would not be surprised at all now that you

[01:10:33] mention it I just think the scientist portioned though is just them doing all the experiments on

[01:10:39] floor 12 in all honesty for sure so you think the only scientist here is pretty much the guy with

[01:10:45] the nose on his forehead and he's like conducting all these experiments in the basement I mean I'm

[01:10:51] sure there's more scientists but he's probably like the lead scientist or something yeah wonder if

[01:10:57] there's any genetic or like wonder if there's any advantages having a nose on your forehead

[01:11:01] an extra nose on your forehead well you get to smell shit twice so he's out here smelling in 3D

[01:11:12] yeah I don't I don't think they could possibly be another advantage having another nose on

[01:11:18] your forehead yeah he also when he found Lucy down there he seemed pretty concerned about the

[01:11:26] possibility of one of these women in the pods like getting out so that kind of leads me to believe

[01:11:32] that not everyone in the vault knows what's going on down here I mean yeah I don't think everyone

[01:11:37] is because the way they talk about floor 12 I think only certain people actually have been down

[01:11:44] there and actually know what's going on I'm still convinced the overseer doesn't know what the

[01:11:49] fuck is going on he just seems too stupid maybe this is me just hating on him because he's an asshole

[01:11:54] but he just seems too fucking stupid I think that they're setting up pretty well that Maximus is

[01:12:02] going to steal the fusion core from this place and put it into his power armor to save Lucy right yeah

[01:12:08] I think that's exactly what's gonna happen too yeah I don't know he seems pretty comfortable I

[01:12:14] don't know if he's ever been gonna actually leave that room to go and rescue her not I mean I

[01:12:19] think they're setting up to make it look like it's gonna be like he's gonna struggle to come to his

[01:12:24] realization but I think he's gonna do it right like there's no way they just fucking make him

[01:12:29] like a brain rot TV popcorn eater watcher for the rest of the series yeah I mean he's kind of

[01:12:38] already a brain rotted like yeah you really wanted his cock to pop after eating the oyster we didn't

[01:12:46] even talk about that scene how awkward it was Lucy being like oh you want to have sex now and he

[01:12:51] was like use my cock you mean use my cock I'm actually a knight of the brotherhood we're not supposed

[01:12:57] to do that and then him being confused about how erections in a war sometimes it gets really hard

[01:13:06] and pops like a pimple did they have no sex ed in the brotherhood they they've got a I don't

[01:13:15] they've got something going on yeah he's a tweaker yeah we have gotten it proved to us a few times

[01:13:23] now that Max must does not pay attention in the classroom so yeah that too that's all the theories

[01:13:30] that I have for this week how about you yeah I think that's about all all right you want to talk

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