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00:17 --> 00:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Hello and welcome back to the Radioactive Remlings podcast where we are back and jacked up on buff out ready to ramble about episodes 4 and 5 of fallout on prime my name is Aaron and my name is Richard.
00:30 --> 00:31 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll be your other host today.
00:31 --> 00:32 [SPEAKER_00]: Richard.
00:33 --> 00:34 [SPEAKER_00]: How you doing today?
00:34 --> 00:47 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm doing fantastic, you know, playing through oblivion, but I had to cut myself off and talk about fallout, which makes it sound like I'm not hyped, but I am hyped because what a batch of episodes.
00:48 --> 00:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Episode 5 was crazy, but before we get into it proper,
00:53 --> 01:12 [SPEAKER_00]: we are going to be covering episodes four and five today so episode four titled the demon in the snow and episode five titled the Wrangler uh... the title of episode four being a reference to the death claw that kupersies and uh... the episode five is the the bar he's sitting in right
01:12 --> 01:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, the Wrangler, or the full title of the bar in Casino that he's in is the Atomic Wrangler, which is in Fallout New Vegas.
01:21 --> 01:24 [SPEAKER_00]: Surprise, surprise, another New Vegas reference or location.
01:25 --> 01:31 [SPEAKER_00]: And this is one of the five Casinos that you can go into and gamble at in New Vegas.
01:32 --> 01:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and in those Casinos, I've heard it told the house might win.
01:38 --> 01:44 [SPEAKER_00]: Unless you have a high luck skill, and then you can just win it those blackjack tables so much that you get kicked out of the casinos.
01:47 --> 01:48 [SPEAKER_01]: I did not know that was a thing.
01:48 --> 01:49 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's cool.
01:50 --> 01:59 [SPEAKER_00]: It's actually for new Vegas players, it's kind of like a right of passage to get a high luck skill and get kicked out of all five casinos for winning too much.
01:59 --> 02:05 [SPEAKER_00]: At least on one character, it's a little bit of a funny thing that people like to do.
02:06 --> 02:11 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll have to do that as soon as the totally real new Vegas remaster comes out.
02:12 --> 02:13 [SPEAKER_00]: Please.
02:13 --> 02:15 [SPEAKER_00]: Please.
02:15 --> 02:17 [SPEAKER_00]: I won't yuck your young.
02:17 --> 02:20 [SPEAKER_00]: I think I maybe will get it.
02:20 --> 02:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe we'll get it.
02:21 --> 02:24 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.
02:24 --> 02:25 [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to need a circle back.
02:25 --> 02:27 [SPEAKER_01]: You're not going to yuck my young.
02:27 --> 02:29 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you never heard that one before.
02:29 --> 02:33 [SPEAKER_01]: I have never heard someone say those words in that, in that arrangement.
02:35 --> 02:37 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, we learn new things every day.
02:37 --> 02:45 [SPEAKER_00]: Just like we learn a whole bunch of new things about house and Barb and Cooper and the whole gang in the pre-war time.
02:45 --> 02:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Chicken fucker.
02:46 --> 02:48 [SPEAKER_01]: A chicken fucker.
02:48 --> 02:50 [SPEAKER_01]: We do not learn about him in the pre-war.
02:50 --> 02:51 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, not yet.
02:51 --> 02:52 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no.
02:52 --> 02:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Not yet, yeah.
02:54 --> 02:54 [SPEAKER_00]: Not yet.
02:54 --> 02:55 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe he's immortal.
02:55 --> 02:58 [SPEAKER_00]: We haven't anything is possible in this show.
02:59 --> 03:03 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, he's kind of a stranger and he's pretty mysterious.
03:04 --> 03:16 [SPEAKER_00]: That would be maybe the greatest twist in Fallout history is that the Snake Oil Salesman aka chicken fucker is immortal and is the mysterious stranger.
03:16 --> 03:18 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, how do you know he's not?
03:19 --> 03:19 [SPEAKER_00]: Am I right?
03:20 --> 03:21 [SPEAKER_00]: We really don't know that he's not.
03:23 --> 03:24 [SPEAKER_00]: We just have to find out more about this guy.
03:26 --> 03:31 [SPEAKER_00]: One of the things that I really love about this show while we're on Snake Oil Salesman
03:32 --> 03:50 [SPEAKER_00]: That could have been, like for the episode five stuff that he was in, where he's being used by Hank to deliver a message, whatever, it could have been just any random person that they grabbed off the street, but the show wants to reuse these characters that we've had before and can kind of track.
03:50 --> 03:52 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think that that's much better.
03:52 --> 03:55 [SPEAKER_00]: It's just, it's so funny to see him.
03:55 --> 03:59 [SPEAKER_01]: A random person, or even if it was like someone that was in the game,
04:00 --> 04:21 [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like that wouldn't be as good as if being someone that we've seen in the show because like if it's someone from the games, we, you know, you have to have played the game, how to do a met that character for them to, for you to care, like beyond, oh my god, that guy just got his shit drilled into, like, you know, you know what I mean?
04:22 --> 04:26 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it gives us something to care about a little bit more, not the,
04:26 --> 04:36 [SPEAKER_00]: him having his mind wiped is really like oh no this guy poor him because like emotional but like he's a silly goofy guy that we've seen before
04:36 --> 04:42 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and he has a little date with another new big character, uh, Fisto.
04:42 --> 04:44 [SPEAKER_00]: Just, just assume the position, do you?
04:44 --> 04:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, please assume the position.
04:46 --> 04:49 [SPEAKER_00]: I should have saved that for our outro this episode.
04:49 --> 04:53 [SPEAKER_00]: I've been putting voice lines from the games at the end of each one of these episodes.
04:54 --> 04:57 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I didn't know that we were actually going to get Fisto.
04:57 --> 04:59 [SPEAKER_00]: I should have known that we were going to get Fisto.
04:59 --> 05:00 [SPEAKER_00]: I should have known that.
05:00 --> 05:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's like, I will admit, Fisto's one of the few things that I've known about New Vegas for
05:07 --> 05:09 [SPEAKER_01]: that's stupid robot because of the fucking memes.
05:10 --> 05:11 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
05:11 --> 05:16 [SPEAKER_00]: And Fisto actually, when we see him last, he's working at the Atomic Wrangler.
05:17 --> 05:19 [SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
05:19 --> 05:28 [SPEAKER_00]: But anyways, do you want to let people know how to get ahold of us if they want to talk to us about the snake oil salesmen or Fisto or any of the other, or serving the position?
05:28 --> 05:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, if people want to assume the position.
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06:32 --> 06:33 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, thank you.
06:34 --> 06:41 [SPEAKER_00]: And before we get into it, any initial thoughts or should we just dive right in because a lot happened.
06:41 --> 06:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, peak.
06:43 --> 06:46 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, but that's all I got to say.
06:47 --> 06:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
06:47 --> 06:48 [SPEAKER_00]: What about you, Doug?
06:48 --> 06:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Episode five was my favorite.
06:51 --> 06:52 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe of the whole series.
06:52 --> 06:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Definitely of this season.
06:55 --> 06:58 [SPEAKER_01]: But see, of this season so far.
07:00 --> 07:04 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this did feel like the turning point because I'm not going to lie.
07:04 --> 07:06 [SPEAKER_00]: The first four episodes, they were really entertaining.
07:06 --> 07:11 [SPEAKER_00]: I love them a lot, but it kind of felt like four episodes of set up.
07:12 --> 07:14 [SPEAKER_00]: And now it's like, we're getting into the meat of it.
07:14 --> 07:22 [SPEAKER_00]: We're really, we're finally at the point where things are happening, other than just them traveling across the wasteland.
07:22 --> 07:25 [SPEAKER_00]: Like episode four had some real movement with the brotherhood.
07:25 --> 07:29 [SPEAKER_00]: And then episode five was some real movement with Lucy in the
07:30 --> 07:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there was a lot of movement with Lucy in the goal.
07:35 --> 07:38 [SPEAKER_01]: They did some interesting stuff before we get into that.
07:38 --> 07:41 [SPEAKER_01]: I guess we started off with the brotherhood, right?
07:42 --> 07:51 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so for the Brotherhood of Steel, a little brief here, Thaddeus poses as Paladin Harkness to keep the peace while Max confronts Elder Quintus.
07:51 --> 08:06 [SPEAKER_00]: With the help of Dane Max and Thaddeus run off with cold fusion, and tensions among the chapters gathered at Area 51 reach a boiling point as the Yosemite Elder takes a knife to the Coronado Elder's face and begins a Brotherhood Civil War.
08:06 --> 08:08 [SPEAKER_00]: She was justified.
08:09 --> 08:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this is kind of wild like bloodbath that shit for a minute though.
08:14 --> 08:20 [SPEAKER_00]: It really was, I mean, she did warn the Coronado elderly, cut it out with that sexist shit.
08:21 --> 08:23 [SPEAKER_00]: And he just, he wouldn't do it, so.
08:23 --> 08:26 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, it can't seem to deserve it.
08:26 --> 08:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Deserved even, like, totally.
08:28 --> 08:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
08:30 --> 08:34 [SPEAKER_00]: But let's talk a little bit about this confrontation between Max and Elder Quintus.
08:34 --> 08:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, so I just didn't general thought that this scene was amazing, like, really well shot.
08:42 --> 08:47 [SPEAKER_01]: They put their all into like the dialogue and everything, like, great scene.
08:47 --> 08:49 [SPEAKER_01]: I love confrontations like this.
08:50 --> 08:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it gave us a little bit more of Quintus.
08:53 --> 09:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Once again, using his manipulative shit, which we saw in past episodes, the whole stick of your my son and then immediately whenever Max is doing something he doesn't like, that's just dropped.
09:06 --> 09:19 [SPEAKER_00]: And he throws out that your my son, come on, we can build a better world together one last time as a Hail Mary to try and get Max not to kill him, but Max is too good of a person and doesn't kill him.
09:20 --> 09:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, which thank God, but at the same time, I would have done it.
09:26 --> 09:41 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and this is also the first time that we get a laser gun in this show that is actually shooting lasers, which makes me think it's probably an expensive special effect to make happen because we've seen laser guns, but they just shoot bullets, which is
09:41 --> 09:46 [SPEAKER_00]: If you don't know that laser guns exist in a fallout, it doesn't, that shouldn't be something that bothers you.
09:47 --> 09:48 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's not really something that bothered me.
09:48 --> 09:54 [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, whatever, it's a gun is a gun, but the whole laser weapon in this scene was great.
09:54 --> 09:58 [SPEAKER_00]: And you can tell that's, there's a lot of weight to this scene.
09:58 --> 10:00 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's why they decided to throw that in there.
10:01 --> 10:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, especially like the whole
10:05 --> 10:10 [SPEAKER_01]: the whole line about like the kids that were abominate, no, they weren't.
10:11 --> 10:11 [SPEAKER_01]: They're children.
10:12 --> 10:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Leave them out of this.
10:12 --> 10:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Please.
10:13 --> 10:19 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, the whole brotherhood philosophy of killing all mutants,
10:20 --> 10:30 [SPEAKER_00]: That's what the Enclay wanted to do, and the Brotherhood view the Enclay of his evil, the only differences that the Enclay view any humans who survived the bombs as well as mutants.
10:31 --> 10:36 [SPEAKER_00]: Anyone who has even been exposed to a fraction of radiation deserves to die in the Enclay's eyes.
10:37 --> 10:40 [SPEAKER_00]: So the Brotherhood view the Enclay very thin line between the two of them.
10:41 --> 10:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're not like, one's just a little bit further over.
10:47 --> 10:52 [SPEAKER_01]: it's it's not really like there's a big divide between the Middle East on that point.
10:52 --> 11:04 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and do we think that if Max had killed Quintus, would he have had a tough time wrestling with that, or was it just kind of a spur of the moment like you're in the moment?
11:04 --> 11:05 [SPEAKER_00]: Can't make it happen.
11:05 --> 11:06 [SPEAKER_00]: I can't
11:06 --> 11:18 [SPEAKER_01]: I think he would have a tough time because of the whole, like, you're my son, like, a manipulation, because even though, like, Maximus has to see it, like, has to understand that he's being manipulated.
11:18 --> 11:30 [SPEAKER_01]: It's still, like, kind of rough to go through, regardless of, like, knowing, not knowing what's going on, like, what he's trying to do with you.
11:30 --> 11:58 [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like he would still be, he would probably be grappling with it for the rest of the season if he'd done it there, and I have a theory that maybe Maximus is gonna kill him by the end of the season, kind of like overcome that in the moment manipulation that Quintus pulled last time, but like, I don't know, I think that if he kills him at the end of the season,
11:59 --> 12:09 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and we also got an added piece of information, which I, I don't think we knew this before, that Quintus is the one who found Maximus in the fridge after the evening.
12:09 --> 12:12 [SPEAKER_00]: We did not see that sense until that episode, yeah.
12:13 --> 12:18 [SPEAKER_00]: Which just adds this whole other element of like Maximus's whole world was ripped away from him.
12:19 --> 12:23 [SPEAKER_00]: It quite literally blown up before his eyes and frantically.
12:23 --> 12:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Friendly face he saw was Quintus.
12:25 --> 12:27 [SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
12:27 --> 12:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's, that just adds a whole other layer to their relationship that we didn't know about before and definitely I can see why Maximus wouldn't want to kill Quintus but kind of believe he deserves it just a little bit oh yeah, this is like this is why I like this show though like I love the idea of being able to say like if that if this was in the game I would 100% be killing Quintus
12:53 --> 13:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and that's the really cool thing about fallout as a franchise in general is you're presented with these choices about how to proceed and there's no clear right or wrong answer most of the time it's just you have to follow your gut you have to follow your own morals and decide what's the lesser evil here what am I I'm going to be doing bad things no matter what because this is the wasteland the world is dead yeah how do I proceed here?
13:22 --> 13:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's really, it kind of reminds me of like the, and I'm sure you get the same, like the, from the Witcher, like choosing the lesser of two evils.
13:32 --> 13:36 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, absolutely, which peak.
13:36 --> 13:37 [SPEAKER_00]: So good.
13:37 --> 13:38 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I know.
13:38 --> 13:39 [SPEAKER_00]: The Witcher Boats.
13:40 --> 13:41 [SPEAKER_00]: So good.
13:42 --> 13:43 [SPEAKER_01]: What about the show, Aaron?
13:43 --> 13:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Is the show peak?
13:45 --> 13:51 [SPEAKER_00]: If you want to turn your brain off and watch a character you like do some stuff.
13:51 --> 13:54 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the Witcher is fine for that.
13:54 --> 14:00 [SPEAKER_00]: But if you're looking for good writing or even decent writing, you're not going to find it in the Witcher.
14:01 --> 14:04 [SPEAKER_00]: Sorry to any Witcher Netflix fans out there.
14:05 --> 14:12 [SPEAKER_00]: I did like that spin off that they did the nightmare of the wolf animated one.
14:12 --> 14:13 [SPEAKER_01]: I still got to watch the other one.
14:14 --> 14:15 [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I liked that.
14:16 --> 14:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, we're rambling.
14:18 --> 14:20 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we always do.
14:20 --> 14:22 [SPEAKER_00]: That's what the people come here for.
14:22 --> 14:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah.
14:24 --> 14:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, like, back to the whole, in Fallout, and really just Bethesda games in general, I feel like with like, how your choice is matter, and how you want to like, you don't know the outcome, so you're just gonna kind of go through and do your best.
14:40 --> 14:42 [SPEAKER_01]: I, you know, I was playing a blivey in today,
14:43 --> 15:08 [SPEAKER_01]: I did, I chose not to help out the like a centric guy in the one town and then he ended up killing someone the next day and I didn't help them because I was going to go report them to the guards because that was also an option I didn't do it fast enough though and so like I don't know I guess that's just like an example of like that as a whole.
15:08 --> 15:26 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, when you play a game or watching a show and you see that the choices that you or the characters are making really matter, that's what makes an RPG, that's why Baldur's Gate was so good, that's why the Fallout games are so interesting or at least most of them fall out.
15:27 --> 15:33 [SPEAKER_01]: The Elder Scrolls games endude, even though the game was not all it just cracked up to be.
15:34 --> 15:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Starfield had some good moments with like a lot of the choices mattering.
15:39 --> 15:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
15:40 --> 15:43 [SPEAKER_01]: They didn't miss on the story points for Starfield.
15:44 --> 15:45 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I would agree with that.
15:45 --> 15:51 [SPEAKER_00]: I think, especially some of the side factions were pretty well done, like the pirates and all of that.
15:52 --> 15:54 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, that was the most fun part of the game for me.
15:54 --> 15:59 [SPEAKER_01]: I like, I mean, my favorite was obviously the free start collective because like, uh, space cowboy, please.
15:59 --> 16:05 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, but, yeah, speaking of space cowboy is the brotherhood of steel.
16:06 --> 16:14 [SPEAKER_00]: Quintus, he claims that he has a plan for the wasteland with cold fusion and Maximus by his side from what we've heard.
16:14 --> 16:19 [SPEAKER_00]: His plan is basically mass produced fusion cores so that he can have an army.
16:20 --> 16:22 [SPEAKER_00]: That doesn't really sound like a sound plant.
16:22 --> 16:26 [SPEAKER_00]: Do you think that he has more than that to his plan or is it just, I'm a military?
16:27 --> 16:29 [SPEAKER_01]: I think he's just a militaristic guy.
16:29 --> 16:31 [SPEAKER_01]: I really don't think there's more to him.
16:31 --> 16:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Even though I really hope there is.
16:37 --> 16:47 [SPEAKER_00]: And we get the line from ModJune in episode five that when the brotherhood rolled into Philly, after they left, they burned the place to the ground.
16:47 --> 16:53 [SPEAKER_00]: So they even look at these pockets of civilization, if you can even call Philly civilization.
16:53 --> 16:59 [SPEAKER_00]: But at the very least, it's a town where people are living, and it's not complete wasteland.
16:59 --> 17:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Philly had like the same vibe as like Megaton.
17:02 --> 17:02 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
17:03 --> 17:03 [SPEAKER_00]: For sure.
17:03 --> 17:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Like I would call that a town for sure.
17:07 --> 17:08 [SPEAKER_00]: Definitely.
17:08 --> 17:14 [SPEAKER_00]: And so you have these little areas that despite not being pre-war standards, people are living there.
17:14 --> 17:18 [SPEAKER_00]: People are trying to make a better life for themselves out of this broken world.
17:18 --> 17:24 [SPEAKER_00]: And the brotherhood just rolls in and destroys it for seemingly no real reason.
17:25 --> 17:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
17:25 --> 17:26 [SPEAKER_00]: It's sad.
17:26 --> 17:28 [SPEAKER_00]: It's I've
17:28 --> 17:34 [SPEAKER_00]: If I haven't made it clear in this season of covering fallout, I don't like the brotherhood very much.
17:35 --> 17:37 [SPEAKER_01]: I can't stand the brotherhood's like ethics code.
17:37 --> 17:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
17:38 --> 17:39 [SPEAKER_01]: But they're power armor.
17:41 --> 17:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Ha ha ha.
17:41 --> 17:42 [SPEAKER_01]: But they're power.
17:42 --> 17:46 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's nice.
17:46 --> 17:51 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's why so many fallout fanboys love the on-claves so much because they're so evil.
17:51 --> 17:52 [SPEAKER_00]: But at the same time.
17:52 --> 17:54 [SPEAKER_00]: So one.
17:54 --> 17:57 [SPEAKER_00]: the XO1, the XO2, the XO3, all of it.
17:57 --> 17:59 [SPEAKER_00]: It's just sick power armor.
17:59 --> 18:02 [SPEAKER_00]: So you can't beat the rule of cool.
18:03 --> 18:07 [SPEAKER_01]: That's why it's being evil, really that bad.
18:07 --> 18:10 [SPEAKER_01]: If you got some nice ass grip on, come on.
18:11 --> 18:14 [SPEAKER_01]: You know what, you have a great point there.
18:14 --> 18:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Like I slaughtered a village to get all this stuff, but I'm looking pretty cool.
18:20 --> 18:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's all that matters.
18:22 --> 18:32 [SPEAKER_00]: So we need to talk a little bit about Thadius with these elders, him just floundering, having a panic attack inside the power armor suit, it was fantastic.
18:32 --> 18:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, yeah, I love that Johnny Pemberton is so good in that role too, because he's just, he's just perfect for it.
18:41 --> 18:44 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I don't know what it is.
18:45 --> 18:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Do you think we're going to see his nose fall off?
18:48 --> 18:58 [SPEAKER_01]: I, I mean, to hopefully at some point, like, if we could see the whole process of goalification in the show, that'd be, that'd be sick as hell.
18:59 --> 19:07 [SPEAKER_00]: It would be because when we get goalification as a mechanic for your player character in Fallout 76, it's just like an instant thing.
19:07 --> 19:13 [SPEAKER_00]: You take the injection or the inhaler, whatever you take the serum thingy.
19:13 --> 19:15 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and you just become a goal.
19:16 --> 19:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I don't think in that game it doesn't like, I don't think it fully qualifies you, right?
19:23 --> 19:26 [SPEAKER_01]: Like you lose your nose, but I don't think you lose much of ours.
19:26 --> 19:28 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, you become like full on goal.
19:28 --> 19:32 [SPEAKER_00]: I turned my 76 character into one before I stopped playing.
19:34 --> 19:35 [SPEAKER_00]: But I'll get back to follow these days.
19:36 --> 19:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, one of these days, maybe another Monday shift.
19:39 --> 19:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's pretty fun.
19:41 --> 19:42 [SPEAKER_01]: I know.
19:42 --> 19:49 [SPEAKER_01]: I, I like Fallout 76 to play with friends, but it's, it's not something that like I would play alone.
19:50 --> 19:54 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I understand that it's definitely more fun when you play with other people.
19:54 --> 20:08 [SPEAKER_01]: The events and everything, it's, yeah, because if I'm going to play a follow game, if I'm going to play a follow game alone, I'm just going to play four or three or new Vegas, or I mean, I could delve into the older ones, but I probably wouldn't.
20:09 --> 20:11 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, follow one and two.
20:12 --> 20:12 [SPEAKER_00]: It's rough.
20:13 --> 20:14 [SPEAKER_00]: That's all I'll say.
20:14 --> 20:16 [SPEAKER_00]: It's rough by modern standards.
20:16 --> 20:21 [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like New Vegas and three are too just because of the sheer amount of like performance issues.
20:22 --> 20:29 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, three the most out of the modern games because in that you can't even look down the sights of a gun.
20:29 --> 20:34 [SPEAKER_01]: It just like zooms in a little bit when you... Oh my god, I hated that so much.
20:35 --> 20:35 [SPEAKER_01]: I...
20:36 --> 20:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Every time I boot up three on my console, I'll remember that like, oh my god, I can't, I can't actually ADS this is horrible, Bethesda, if you're listening, Todd actually, if you're listening, give us ADS in the three remaster and the new Vegas, or no, new Vegas hadn't, remember?
21:00 --> 21:01 [SPEAKER_00]: What if I just...
21:02 --> 21:06 [SPEAKER_00]: hop on the train to Rockville and petition them in person.
21:07 --> 21:07 [SPEAKER_01]: do it.
21:08 --> 21:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
21:09 --> 21:09 [SPEAKER_01]: I will.
21:09 --> 21:11 [SPEAKER_01]: And make sure that new Vegas remasters come in.
21:12 --> 21:12 [SPEAKER_00]: I will.
21:12 --> 21:13 [SPEAKER_00]: Don't worry.
21:14 --> 21:16 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll give Todd Howard a the what for.
21:16 --> 21:18 [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
21:18 --> 21:19 [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
21:19 --> 21:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Anyways, this is what we're starts.
21:22 --> 21:23 [SPEAKER_00]: That he is immediately dips.
21:23 --> 21:24 [SPEAKER_00]: He sees his moment.
21:24 --> 21:27 [SPEAKER_00]: He's like, thank God something happened that I can just slip out.
21:28 --> 21:30 [SPEAKER_00]: This shit is getting ridiculous.
21:30 --> 21:32 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't blame him one bit.
21:33 --> 21:37 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm surprised he held out
21:37 --> 21:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I would have dipped in me.
21:40 --> 21:43 [SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't have gone back as I guess the best way to put it.
21:44 --> 21:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I hope we get to see more of him.
21:47 --> 22:02 [SPEAKER_00]: I know that we're going to see more of him because the trailers for this season had fadious maximus and the goal, like forming up a policy of free side residents and like marching toward something.
22:03 --> 22:11 [SPEAKER_01]: next next week would be cool if they want to get Lucy back or maybe next week they find out where Lucy is and then they do all that.
22:12 --> 22:23 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah and the last thing I kind of wanted to talk about with the Brotherhood plotlines in this episode is when Thaddeus and Max meet up with Dane to do their final goodbyes.
22:23 --> 22:26 [SPEAKER_00]: I hope Dane and Max get to reunite at some point.
22:26 --> 22:31 [SPEAKER_00]: I like Dane's character for the most
22:33 --> 22:44 [SPEAKER_00]: Max is too much of a rule follower stuff, which, yeah, to a certain extent, but also it didn't feel right for that character to be the one to say it after they were the one to hailed Max.
22:44 --> 22:47 [SPEAKER_00]: And this is the night of the brotherhood blah, blah, blah.
22:47 --> 22:53 [SPEAKER_01]: I think the proper one to say that Max, Mrs. Too straight, narrow would have been thadius at this point.
22:54 --> 22:56 [SPEAKER_01]: Purely because like now fadius has
22:57 --> 23:02 [SPEAKER_01]: I, and I thought he was on like the straight narrow path, but he's deviated so far.
23:02 --> 23:10 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's, he's a, he's a goal or becoming a goal at least like that's brotherhood enemy number one.
23:11 --> 23:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
23:12 --> 23:13 [SPEAKER_01]: They do not like goals.
23:14 --> 23:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Smooth skins only.
23:16 --> 23:17 [SPEAKER_00]: Smooth skins only.
23:18 --> 23:19 [SPEAKER_00]: I have a question for you.
23:20 --> 23:20 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, boy.
23:21 --> 23:23 [SPEAKER_00]: Maximus and Thaddeus run off.
23:23 --> 23:25 [SPEAKER_00]: Thaddeus is in power armor.
23:25 --> 23:26 [SPEAKER_00]: Maximus
23:26 --> 23:29 [SPEAKER_00]: Max, why did he not take a suit of power armor with him?
23:31 --> 23:31 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
23:31 --> 23:38 [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like maybe he just got caught up in the moment, but the other thing is they should switch.
23:39 --> 23:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, ghouls are more resilient because they have actual healing, like a healing factor.
23:47 --> 23:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Max missed us and he should be in the armor, like what?
23:51 --> 23:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I agree.
23:52 --> 23:59 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe they got caught up in the moment trying to escape all of those airships that were blasting each other out of the sky.
23:59 --> 24:03 [SPEAKER_00]: So I guess maybe he just didn't have time didn't think of it.
24:03 --> 24:03 [SPEAKER_00]: Whatever.
24:03 --> 24:05 [SPEAKER_00]: He'll get a suit of power armor eventually.
24:05 --> 24:12 [SPEAKER_01]: It'd be sick if they ran into some Raiders and he got like one of them had a set of the Raider power armor.
24:13 --> 24:15 [SPEAKER_01]: I've always been a fan of the Raider power armor, honestly.
24:15 --> 24:22 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I love anything in the follow-up games that looks kind of cobbled together and made out of scrap metal in the wasteland.
24:22 --> 24:24 [SPEAKER_00]: I just do really mess that vibe.
24:25 --> 24:26 [SPEAKER_01]: That's what I'm talking about.
24:26 --> 24:31 [SPEAKER_01]: Like and other games have done it before like seven days that I had all sorts of cool scrap armor.
24:31 --> 24:36 [SPEAKER_01]: You had like a stop sign sticking out of your chest piece and stuff like that.
24:37 --> 24:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Like that's the vibe.
24:39 --> 24:50 [SPEAKER_01]: I do love like the the real like put together outfits, but there's just something about the vibe of wearing like pure scrap armor that makes it better.
24:50 --> 24:52 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
24:52 --> 24:59 [SPEAKER_00]: Any final thoughts on what's going on with the brotherhood any predictions before we move on to what's going on with Lucy in the ghoul?
24:59 --> 25:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, not anything like crazy prediction or anything, but like I don't want thaddius to die by the end of the season, and I'd like to see Maximus Kill Quintus at the end of the season.
25:14 --> 25:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's really all I got.
25:15 --> 25:15 [SPEAKER_01]: What about you?
25:15 --> 25:18 [SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't really have anything
25:18 --> 25:21 [SPEAKER_00]: So let's move on to Lucy in the ghoul.
25:22 --> 25:29 [SPEAKER_00]: After being taken off the cross, Lucy is on the brink of death, but is a nurse back to health by the NCR remnants up in the hills.
25:30 --> 25:33 [SPEAKER_00]: And in the process, she develops a nasty addiction to drugs.
25:34 --> 25:43 [SPEAKER_00]: Lucy in the ghoul make their way to New Vegas, where they decide to take a shortcut onto the strip, which is now infested with terrifying death clouds.
25:43 --> 25:52 [SPEAKER_00]: After running from the death clause, the ghoul drowns his sorrows in the atomic wrangler, while Lucy acquires some gear and kicks her addiction in a kind of gross way.
25:52 --> 26:00 [SPEAKER_00]: And when confronted with a difficult choice presented by Hank McLean's new minion, the ghoul decides to turn Lucy over and exchange for his family's safety.
26:01 --> 26:04 [SPEAKER_00]: However, Lucy doesn't really agree with that proposal.
26:05 --> 26:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I actually have a question about the Addictal.
26:09 --> 26:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
26:10 --> 26:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Is that how it's functioned in like the lore?
26:13 --> 26:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, you don't just start puking constantly in the game, I guess, but like has that always been the process?
26:20 --> 26:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Or did we not know?
26:21 --> 26:29 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if the puking was always part of it, but essentially, yeah, if you become addicted to drugs, because let's talk about it.
26:30 --> 26:32 [SPEAKER_01]: I knew a dictator was in the games for the right.
26:32 --> 26:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I mean specifically, just like the after effects of taking it.
26:37 --> 26:39 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's not a part of the games in the games.
26:40 --> 26:44 [SPEAKER_00]: So in Fallout, there are camps which are essentially just drugs.
26:44 --> 26:47 [SPEAKER_00]: They call them camps in the games to, I don't know.
26:47 --> 26:48 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if it was a rating thing.
26:48 --> 26:49 [SPEAKER_00]: The games are rated them.
26:49 --> 26:53 [SPEAKER_00]: So it might just be like a fun universe thing.
26:53 --> 26:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think it's like, not even an attempt.
26:55 --> 26:57 [SPEAKER_01]: It's just like world building, I guess.
26:58 --> 27:03 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's not really like, they do call things like call drugs drugs on occasion.
27:03 --> 27:06 [SPEAKER_00]: But camps is more wasteland slang for it.
27:07 --> 27:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I feel like the only character that I can think of that has said, at least in the show that has said the word drugs would be vault dwellers and the ghoul.
27:17 --> 27:19 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, what do you make sense?
27:19 --> 27:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
27:21 --> 27:22 [SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, addiction.
27:22 --> 27:24 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a real mechanic in the games.
27:25 --> 27:31 [SPEAKER_00]: Drugs have some awesome benefits to them in the games and they really do.
27:31 --> 27:32 [SPEAKER_01]: It's wonderful.
27:32 --> 27:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you can, you can get addicted, which has pretty negative side effects if you're not taking your drugs off and so that's where addict all comes in, which is literally just a drug and inhaler that magically curious your addictions.
27:48 --> 27:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, if you'd like to play with cams, get yourself a junkie super sledge, a set of power armor and a shit ton of buff out.
27:58 --> 28:00 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you'll do it through the wasteland.
28:00 --> 28:01 [SPEAKER_01]: It's the best.
28:02 --> 28:02 [SPEAKER_00]: It is.
28:02 --> 28:06 [SPEAKER_00]: And Buffout essentially is Fallout's version of steroids.
28:07 --> 28:10 [SPEAKER_00]: Adds here endurance and whatnot.
28:10 --> 28:15 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, and I think it makes you, I don't know about steroids in real life.
28:15 --> 28:16 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I have yet to try them.
28:18 --> 28:28 [SPEAKER_01]: But Buffout, I think also like makes you pissy, or at least like more prone to anger,
28:28 --> 28:31 [SPEAKER_01]: If anyone has any personal experience, let us know.
28:32 --> 28:38 [SPEAKER_00]: You don't have to let us know if you did steroids, but like if you know, if you know the science behind it.
28:39 --> 28:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
28:40 --> 28:44 [SPEAKER_01]: We do not support doing drugs on radioactive ramblings.
28:45 --> 28:45 [SPEAKER_01]: There's no bad.
28:46 --> 28:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, please stay away.
28:47 --> 28:49 [SPEAKER_00]: There is no a dick doll in real life.
28:51 --> 28:59 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but now that our dare PSA is over, let's talk about their arrival in Vegas.
28:59 --> 29:03 [SPEAKER_00]: They arrive at the gate to free side or one of the gates to free side.
29:03 --> 29:08 [SPEAKER_00]: And we talked a little bit about the Gullified Kings in the last episode because they were shown in the trailer.
29:09 --> 29:17 [SPEAKER_00]: But these are Elvis impersonators who used to run free side, literally a gang of Elvis impersonators.
29:17 --> 29:23 [SPEAKER_00]: When they're walking around freeside an episode five the king school of impersonation.
29:24 --> 29:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh Yeah, I saw that like I I caught that I meant to ask you.
29:28 --> 29:30 [SPEAKER_01]: It's in my notes out.
29:30 --> 29:31 [SPEAKER_01]: I forgot
29:32 --> 29:36 [SPEAKER_00]: And it seems like this isn't confirmed.
29:36 --> 29:40 [SPEAKER_00]: It could just be someone in the same suit that was a part of the gang.
29:40 --> 29:49 [SPEAKER_00]: But the guy with the guitar on his back and the kind of whitish cream colored suit, that is most likely the king himself, the leader of the gang.
29:49 --> 29:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Dude, Elvis survived the apocalypse.
29:52 --> 29:52 [SPEAKER_01]: That's insane.
29:53 --> 29:57 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know, just, just a big fan of his, you know, no, no, that's Elvis.
29:58 --> 29:59 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that is Elvis himself.
30:00 --> 30:07 [SPEAKER_00]: And we haven't seen him, but the King did have a dog, a Robo dog named Rex.
30:09 --> 30:11 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, that's so awesome.
30:11 --> 30:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Why, I need a, but as to drop this remaster, please, I know it's real.
30:18 --> 30:24 [SPEAKER_00]: I, it's probably real, but it's probably not happening next month if we're going to get a remaster, it's going to be it'll be three.
30:25 --> 30:26 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
30:26 --> 30:27 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
30:27 --> 30:33 [SPEAKER_00]: But you can take comfort in knowing that someday you'll be able to play new Vegas in all of its modern glory.
30:34 --> 30:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
30:35 --> 30:43 [SPEAKER_00]: Other than the kings, we should talk about the strip and outer vagus specifically free side.
30:44 --> 30:49 [SPEAKER_00]: It seems like there's some radiation going on and I don't just say that because of what's happening with the kings.
30:50 --> 30:51 [SPEAKER_00]: When they're on the strip,
30:53 --> 31:12 [SPEAKER_00]: Lucy's Geiger counter is kind of going crazy and I don't know if that's from the death clause death clause emitting their own radiation would be a new thing as far as I know I don't think that they are radioactive they're just The genomic they they they they've snuck up on me pretty easy before without the guy you're kind of going crazy.
31:12 --> 31:13 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't I don't big bit they do that
31:14 --> 31:33 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so that's either a new thing or the death clause migrated to the strip because of the radiation which would be interesting They do like their little irradiated deaths that that would make sense like specifically because they have their irradiated deaths like Maybe there's a reason that the radiation got worse in the strip.
31:33 --> 31:42 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't really like now I'm not a radiologist Nobodyologist Right well, or any of us really radiologists
31:43 --> 31:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, no, no, it's not even a real thing.
31:47 --> 31:48 [SPEAKER_01]: I just made that up on the spot.
31:48 --> 31:53 [SPEAKER_00]: I think radiology is a real thing, but I think it's like, no, that's when you take X-rays.
31:53 --> 31:54 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like medical.
31:54 --> 31:56 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's medically involved.
31:56 --> 32:02 [SPEAKER_00]: And when we talked to the bartender,
32:03 --> 32:04 [SPEAKER_00]: in the Atomic Wrangler.
32:04 --> 32:10 [SPEAKER_00]: He talks about how the death clause migrated from Cory Junction, which this is another New Vegas reference.
32:10 --> 32:17 [SPEAKER_01]: I know about this one actually, because Cory Junction is the fastest way to the two new Vegas, right?
32:17 --> 32:18 [SPEAKER_01]: From where you start?
32:19 --> 32:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, exactly.
32:20 --> 32:20 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
32:20 --> 32:24 [SPEAKER_01]: I was pretty sure that's why because I went through Cory Junction.
32:25 --> 32:32 [SPEAKER_01]: I attempted to go through Cory Junction anyways.
32:34 --> 32:35 [SPEAKER_00]: it'll end your career as life.
32:36 --> 32:37 [SPEAKER_00]: Pretty quickly.
32:37 --> 32:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I definitely.
32:38 --> 32:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Those things are so fast and new Vegas and there's no need for that.
32:42 --> 32:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Deathcloud like whipped around a corner or some shit and just, I'm dead immediately.
32:49 --> 32:55 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, in Fallout 4 and 76, the newer titles, deathclaws are kind of solitary creatures.
32:56 --> 32:58 [SPEAKER_00]: In New Vegas, they're pack animals.
32:58 --> 33:02 [SPEAKER_00]: So you have the strongest creature in the
33:03 --> 33:05 [SPEAKER_01]: It's it's really scary.
33:05 --> 33:06 [SPEAKER_00]: It is.
33:06 --> 33:13 [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm glad that they brought back that pack animal aspect of the death clause because they are really intelligent and like social creatures.
33:14 --> 33:15 [SPEAKER_00]: So it's cool to see.
33:16 --> 33:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
33:17 --> 33:20 [SPEAKER_00]: Aren't in three they're not like that, right?
33:20 --> 33:28 [SPEAKER_00]: I think the majority of the death clause that we see in Fallout three are controlled by the onclave with like a chip.
33:28 --> 33:29 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
33:29 --> 33:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
33:30 --> 33:31 [SPEAKER_00]: So
33:31 --> 33:37 [SPEAKER_00]: Not controlled very well, mind you, but they are somewhat under the enclave's control.
33:38 --> 33:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, because I'm trying to think of like, that could totally be like an evolution thing after a few hundred years in the wasteland, like definitely.
33:46 --> 33:59 [SPEAKER_01]: In the desert, it would make sense that in a desert, they kind of hunt together, whereas like in the cities, they don't, they don't even
34:01 --> 34:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, there are still more people, I guess, even in like the wasteland cities.
34:05 --> 34:07 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, free dinners all over the place.
34:08 --> 34:09 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
34:09 --> 34:14 [SPEAKER_00]: And I also really enjoyed how the bartender at the Wrangler.
34:15 --> 34:19 [SPEAKER_00]: just referred to the death clause moving in as a change in management.
34:19 --> 34:22 [SPEAKER_00]: He's like, whatever, they're in charge of the strip now.
34:22 --> 34:24 [SPEAKER_00]: We've, we've dealt with it a million times.
34:24 --> 34:27 [SPEAKER_00]: One group rolls in, they're in charge and other group rolls in.
34:27 --> 34:31 [SPEAKER_00]: As long as no one tries to make me pay taxes, that's fine with me.
34:31 --> 34:32 [SPEAKER_00]: Whatever.
34:32 --> 34:34 [SPEAKER_01]: He's just so nonchalant about it.
34:35 --> 34:36 [SPEAKER_00]: He is.
34:36 --> 34:40 [SPEAKER_00]: And if you recognize that actor, that is Abraham from The Bear.
34:41 --> 34:45 [SPEAKER_00]: So a little shout-out after one day, it's great.
34:45 --> 34:46 [SPEAKER_00]: It's fast-paced.
34:46 --> 34:49 [SPEAKER_00]: I probably get for it real quick if you watch it.
34:49 --> 34:54 [SPEAKER_01]: I know, I've got to finish like a show that I'm on.
34:55 --> 34:56 [SPEAKER_01]: And then I can start something new.
34:57 --> 34:58 [SPEAKER_00]: That's very fair.
34:59 --> 35:01 [SPEAKER_00]: And quick little production note.
35:01 --> 35:03 [SPEAKER_00]: The death claws are mostly practical.
35:03 --> 35:09 [SPEAKER_00]: It's all like puppet work and a little bit of CGI to fill in the gaps.
35:09 --> 35:11 [SPEAKER_00]: So I love the practical effects on the show.
35:11 --> 35:13 [SPEAKER_00]: All the power armor is practical.
35:13 --> 35:15 [SPEAKER_00]: Now the death claws are practical.
35:16 --> 35:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think, I mean, practicals the way to go if you can do it practical.
35:21 --> 35:26 [SPEAKER_01]: CGI, I feel like looks goofy, goofy as hell sometimes.
35:28 --> 35:31 [SPEAKER_01]: You just get a way better feel to it when it's practical.
35:31 --> 35:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, even the red scorpions, I saw Walton Goggins, my Google, my go talking about like, when they were filming the red scorpions seen in the hospital, he's got someone that's like 10 feet behind him that's like pulling on a string to make it jump off the shelf item or whatever and like stuff like that's super sick.
35:53 --> 35:56 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's so much better because like they're
35:56 --> 36:00 [SPEAKER_01]: They care about what they do, and I think that is what makes it better.
36:00 --> 36:06 [SPEAKER_00]: That's what I really love about this show compared to other video game adaptation nonsense that happens out there is.
36:06 --> 36:23 [SPEAKER_00]: You can tell that the people who are making this really enjoy making it, and they're actually trying to create a good show and not just make cash grabs
36:24 --> 36:35 [SPEAKER_01]: that has happened a lot, maybe not a lot, but I'm thinking of one specific show, and that is stranger things in the first, like it fell off as time went on.
36:35 --> 36:38 [SPEAKER_01]: We all know that we all know the ending was not great.
36:39 --> 36:41 [SPEAKER_01]: People do not like the ending, and we're right, too.
36:42 --> 36:47 [SPEAKER_01]: But season one, season two, season three, of stranger things, we're really good.
36:47 --> 36:54 [SPEAKER_01]: And then season four was still pretty good, but like it had its moments, and season five was kind of a shit show.
36:54 --> 37:07 [SPEAKER_01]: I hope that doesn't happen with fallout, I hope that they have a plan for the ending that's going to make sense and that they don't try to drag it out just to make more money.
37:08 --> 37:09 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that they will.
37:09 --> 37:12 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that they probably have a plan in mind.
37:13 --> 37:17 [SPEAKER_00]: It seems like they know where their runway is going to run out.
37:17 --> 37:20 [SPEAKER_00]: They have everything planned out.
37:20 --> 37:26 [SPEAKER_00]: It seems like the story has a clearly defined beginning and middle and end.
37:26 --> 37:31 [SPEAKER_00]: I trust the writers here because they said it was going to be what like either four or five seasons, something like that.
37:31 --> 37:33 [SPEAKER_00]: So they know vaguely what's going to happen.
37:33 --> 37:46 [SPEAKER_00]: If they want to do spin-offs from there, or not even necessarily a spin-off, but just a different story in this universe with the Fallout IP, I would be happy with that, but I don't want to see them drag this out for sure.
37:47 --> 37:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I would also be happy if we're talking about spin-offs and stuff.
37:56 --> 38:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Ooh, even without, like, vault dwellers going into the wasteland.
38:02 --> 38:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Just like, give me an episode in each really fucked up vault.
38:07 --> 38:09 [SPEAKER_00]: Don't be a great animated series.
38:10 --> 38:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, I mean, with some of the experimentation, I think it has to be.
38:13 --> 38:15 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it would be pretty cool.
38:17 --> 38:20 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk about Lucy and the ghouls falling out.
38:22 --> 38:22 [SPEAKER_00]: shot.
38:24 --> 38:27 [SPEAKER_00]: This isn't anything too big to fall out for.
38:27 --> 38:32 [SPEAKER_00]: Did you like when he fell out the window?
38:33 --> 38:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I thought it was kind of crazy that he fell out too.
38:39 --> 38:39 [SPEAKER_00]: We're done.
38:40 --> 38:41 [SPEAKER_01]: New Vegas.
38:45 --> 38:48 [SPEAKER_00]: They need to shut us down, take us off the air.
38:49 --> 38:50 [SPEAKER_00]: take you off the air.
38:50 --> 38:52 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm cooking right now.
38:54 --> 39:01 [SPEAKER_00]: Before we get into their fallout, let's talk a little bit about Lucy's adventure and free side.
39:01 --> 39:08 [SPEAKER_00]: She goes into the store called Sonny's and a guy is there who it clearly is not Sonny.
39:10 --> 39:14 [SPEAKER_00]: The funniest thing ever in this episode, maybe even
39:15 --> 39:22 [SPEAKER_00]: is when the guy goes in there and he has the clothes that are just completely not fit in him.
39:23 --> 39:26 [SPEAKER_00]: And she's like, who would rob a store naked?
39:26 --> 39:29 [SPEAKER_00]: And he's like, people rob stores naked all the time.
39:29 --> 39:30 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not that crazy.
39:30 --> 39:34 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's perfectly normal for someone of going and rob a store naked.
39:36 --> 39:37 [SPEAKER_00]: Pervert.
39:37 --> 39:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, what the fuck?
39:39 --> 39:46 [SPEAKER_01]: And like that shirt, that one button was holding on for dear life.
39:46 --> 39:46 [SPEAKER_00]: So good.
39:47 --> 40:02 [SPEAKER_00]: It reminds me a lot of there's a character in New Vegas called Raul and he is wearing a uniform from before the war and it's like an old gas station worker uniform or something and it's not his name.
40:03 --> 40:07 [SPEAKER_00]: And you can ask him like where'd you get that from
40:07 --> 40:10 [SPEAKER_00]: Whoever had the outfit before me, I don't know.
40:11 --> 40:12 [SPEAKER_01]: That's fucking great.
40:12 --> 40:13 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
40:14 --> 40:17 [SPEAKER_00]: So she finds some pretty great stuff.
40:17 --> 40:24 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you noticed this, but all of the real prices on the stuff in the general store were crossed out and everything in there was priced for 10 caps.
40:25 --> 40:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, I figured that the guy, the imposter guy, probably just marked everything up to try to scam people.
40:36 --> 40:57 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, which is just such a great representation of a waste landers, like their perception of buying and selling of economics is just, yeah, if I charge 10 caps for something worth 32, I guess people just have to come in here and give me 10 caps.
40:59 --> 41:01 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, it could work.
41:02 --> 41:02 [SPEAKER_00]: It could.
41:02 --> 41:10 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it did because even Lucy decided to steal that power fist in the Addictal granted she was still in her Addiction mode.
41:10 --> 41:13 [SPEAKER_01]: So I would have stolen the power fist.
41:13 --> 41:21 [SPEAKER_01]: I really need to do better at stealing and in Bethesda games dude, I have barely been stealing in oblivion.
41:22 --> 41:26 [SPEAKER_00]: What's the little lost karma if you're getting a power fist in exchange?
41:27 --> 41:36 [SPEAKER_01]: It's what I'm saying or like upgrading your stealth in those games is so worth it because who doesn't love pick pocketing someone and putting a live grenade on them.
41:37 --> 41:44 [SPEAKER_00]: That is one of my favorite mechanics in the follow games is just reverse pick pocketing a grenade into someone's pocket it.
41:44 --> 41:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Dude, you're just making sure they're stocked up.
41:47 --> 41:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Doesn't mean it's your fault when they accidentally pull the pen.
41:50 --> 41:51 [SPEAKER_00]: Here take this free gift.
41:51 --> 41:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, take this free new hook grenade, it's just, I saw something to remember me by the pin is still in it.
41:59 --> 41:59 [SPEAKER_00]: Totally.
42:01 --> 42:11 [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, and then Lucy comes back to the Wrangler where the ghoul and the snake oil salesman, who is now working for Hank involuntarily, is waiting with a message for the ghoul and Lucy.
42:11 --> 42:16 [SPEAKER_00]: And he says, your father wants you to go back to the vault.
42:17 --> 42:20 [SPEAKER_00]: He has a plan and he just needs you to go back and wait it out in there.
42:22 --> 42:24 [SPEAKER_00]: I hope this guy does not have more nukes at his disposal.
42:25 --> 42:26 [SPEAKER_00]: He's going to use him.
42:27 --> 42:31 [SPEAKER_01]: I think he's probably got at least one more, you know, around.
42:33 --> 42:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Because if he was able to access a nuk while he was in Vault 31, or in Vault 33, yeah now he's like completely free, he's in HQ, he's got his stockpile if they've got him in there.
42:51 --> 43:15 [SPEAKER_01]: like mystery uh... benefactor guy wouldn't wouldn't help out on this one wouldn't pitch in a little bit yeah the on-clave obviously it's got to be the on-clave but when we get into the pre-war stuff everything that houses talking about it's got to be the on-clave or some mysterious new faction but i don't see them adding a new faction that's that important you know
43:16 --> 43:16 [SPEAKER_00]: That's true.
43:17 --> 43:19 [SPEAKER_00]: It would be a huge 180.
43:19 --> 43:21 [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, anyway, we'll get to it later.
43:21 --> 43:22 [SPEAKER_00]: I have thoughts about that.
43:23 --> 43:33 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but what did you think about Cooper slash the Google taking that offer where you surprised or was it pretty in the last one shocked?
43:34 --> 43:39 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, like a part of me wants to believe that Cooper, what Cooper would
43:40 --> 44:08 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, if we're going to separate him out into like the Cooper side and the Google side, Cooper would have probably helped Lucy, whereas the goal, I mean, he's this is 200 years of him just focusing on getting his family back, meaning a vault dweller for I don't know two weeks, three weeks, and adventuring with her, I don't think would have like was enough to
44:08 --> 44:09 [SPEAKER_01]: no.
44:09 --> 44:12 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I kind of expected it like I hoped.
44:12 --> 44:16 [SPEAKER_01]: I like I want to believe in the good, but I also totally knew.
44:16 --> 44:26 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think that whenever he ends up saved from his little impaling accident, he might wake up a better person.
44:26 --> 44:29 [SPEAKER_00]: He might have a little bit of a change of heart.
44:29 --> 44:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that could do it because of like power fist like, wow, that that's just got
44:38 --> 44:43 [SPEAKER_00]: I wonder if next episode is going to be like him stuck on their kind of reflecting on his life and the choices he's made.
44:44 --> 44:53 [SPEAKER_00]: That would be a good like he's so near death that he is thinking about all the horrible things he's done in the wasteland and then he wants to be better moving forward.
44:53 --> 45:00 [SPEAKER_00]: That would be a great catalyst for him to continue the change that we've seen a little bit in this season and really run with it.
45:01 --> 45:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
45:01 --> 45:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
45:02 --> 45:02 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm with you on that.
45:03 --> 45:03 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
45:03 --> 45:10 [SPEAKER_00]: then again, I wouldn't say that what he did was morally super incorrect.
45:12 --> 45:15 [SPEAKER_01]: No, it's definitely one of those like more morally gray.
45:16 --> 45:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Like it's still bad, but I would put it closer to being in the gray area.
45:22 --> 45:26 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because Lucy, she's not going to be killed.
45:26 --> 45:32 [SPEAKER_00]: She's being sent back to the
45:33 --> 45:37 [SPEAKER_00]: That's an exchange for his family's safety.
45:37 --> 45:39 [SPEAKER_00]: I could see it.
45:39 --> 45:40 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't necessarily.
45:40 --> 45:47 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not like he's killing her, but it's probably not a good thing because like helping Hank out.
45:49 --> 45:50 [SPEAKER_01]: That can't be good.
45:50 --> 45:54 [SPEAKER_00]: No, which speaking of Hank in this episode,
45:55 --> 45:56 [SPEAKER_00]: He shows up in person.
45:56 --> 46:01 [SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't expecting him to come and do the dirty work himself of bringing his daughter back.
46:01 --> 46:07 [SPEAKER_00]: Is he gonna bring her, do you think, back to his management fault that he's been squatting in?
46:07 --> 46:10 [SPEAKER_01]: I think, so we don't know where that is, right?
46:10 --> 46:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, we still have no actual clue.
46:13 --> 46:18 [SPEAKER_00]: The fact that he was able to show up so quickly makes me think that it is in Vegas somewhere?
46:18 --> 46:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, I'm thinking it's like, I'm thinking it could be under free side.
46:24 --> 46:27 [SPEAKER_00]: It could be, yeah, that would be a pretty good guess.
46:28 --> 46:38 [SPEAKER_00]: And I've seen some people thinking it's that vault hotel that they showed in the prewar flashbacks, which Mr. House did fill it with concrete.
46:39 --> 46:43 [SPEAKER_00]: So maybe there's something under there that people don't need to be seen.
46:44 --> 46:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that could be.
46:45 --> 46:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I did not know that Mr. House did all that.
46:48 --> 46:57 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, when he reopened the strip, he flooded the lower levels with concrete and turned to the top levels of the vault into a hotel in Casino.
46:58 --> 46:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
46:59 --> 47:09 [SPEAKER_01]: He hanks definitely chilling under there and probably, uh, maybe even drilled through the con, or not drilled through, but like broke through the concrete.
47:10 --> 47:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he did have a suit of power armor.
47:13 --> 47:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he definitely could have done that.
47:17 --> 47:27 [SPEAKER_00]: and any final thoughts on losing the goal before we talk about the pre-war stuff, but we'll take a little ad break before we do that.
47:28 --> 47:40 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm nothing like major, just like I really liked their dynamic, and I'm thinking that the rest of the season and season three, they're probably just going to be getting back to where they were.
47:40 --> 47:43 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, they're not really going to like progress their relationship.
47:44 --> 47:46 [SPEAKER_01]: They're not going to be closer than that, I guess.
47:46 --> 47:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Until probably the end of the next season.
47:49 --> 47:54 [SPEAKER_00]: All right, let's take a quick break and then we'll be back to talk about the pre-war stuff.
47:58 --> 48:01 [SPEAKER_00]: and we are back with our pre-war section.
48:01 --> 48:03 [SPEAKER_00]: So let's get right into it.
48:03 --> 48:08 [SPEAKER_00]: Cooper arrives in Las Vegas where he meets face-to-face with his target Robert House.
48:09 --> 48:18 [SPEAKER_00]: He is confronted with calculations about the end of the world, his family's role, and the secrets that will cast a shadow over total atomic annihilation.
48:20 --> 48:24 [SPEAKER_00]: Should we talk about that episode four flashbacks with the demon in the snow?
48:24 --> 48:52 [SPEAKER_00]: that's all you gang what do you want to talk about well we on previous episodes have already discussed operation anchorage and what that is essentially just free wartimes right before the bombs drop essentially China and America are fighting over Alaska China occupies anchorage Alaska after retake it liberty prime blah blah blah blah all of that stuff
48:53 --> 49:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, communist detected, um, one thing that I did want to talk about with that a little bit is the Chinese soldiers who are there, um, they talk a little bit about, you know, the suit of power armor that this poor bastard is in, that's going to be us pretty soon in one of these, China never actually got to develop their own power armor, but they did develop something equally
49:16 --> 49:20 [SPEAKER_00]: deadly, which was Chinese stealth armor, which is exactly what it sounds like.
49:20 --> 49:22 [SPEAKER_00]: It's... Oh, yeah.
49:22 --> 49:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was going to say does that make you like fully invisible?
49:25 --> 49:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Or not fully, it's like a stealth boy.
49:27 --> 49:28 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
49:28 --> 49:32 [SPEAKER_00]: So, brings you to pretty much near invisibility.
49:32 --> 49:34 [SPEAKER_00]: You're essentially just a shimmer.
49:35 --> 49:36 [SPEAKER_00]: a see-through shimmer.
49:36 --> 49:37 [SPEAKER_00]: So it's pretty cool.
49:38 --> 49:42 [SPEAKER_00]: So even though they didn't have power armor, they did have some equally cool tech.
49:42 --> 49:44 [SPEAKER_00]: And yeah.
49:45 --> 49:47 [SPEAKER_01]: And there was something all crazy.
49:47 --> 49:48 [SPEAKER_01]: that was out there.
49:48 --> 49:49 [SPEAKER_00]: Something a little bit crazy.
49:49 --> 50:00 [SPEAKER_00]: The demon in the snow itself, this was our first introduction in the show to a death claw, a season and a half of waiting for one, and it was worth it.
50:00 --> 50:04 [SPEAKER_00]: This is the first time we have ever seen a death claw pre-war.
50:04 --> 50:07 [SPEAKER_00]: We didn't know that they were actually used pre-war.
50:07 --> 50:08 [SPEAKER_00]: We didn't know that they were deployed.
50:09 --> 50:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think we just knew that they existed.
50:12 --> 50:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, they were at the very least being worked on by the U.S. government and the defense contractors who then became the enclave.
50:21 --> 50:23 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, exactly.
50:23 --> 50:32 [SPEAKER_00]: So we knew that the U.S. government post war as the enclave was using death clause in combat, but we did not know that they would have been used prewar.
50:33 --> 50:36 [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, it does make sense that there would be testing it in Anchorage.
50:37 --> 50:39 [SPEAKER_00]: This was the closest conflict to the bomb drop.
50:39 --> 50:43 [SPEAKER_00]: So if it was going to be used anywhere, it would be used here, right before the bombs fall.
50:44 --> 50:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, any thoughts on this, did you think it was appropriate?
50:47 --> 50:50 [SPEAKER_00]: I've seen some people online saying, this is ridiculous.
50:50 --> 50:52 [SPEAKER_00]: Why would there be a death-collopory war?
50:53 --> 51:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I, so I haven't seen much of that, but like one of my friends, uh, he's not as big into like some of the lore.
51:01 --> 51:09 [SPEAKER_01]: So he didn't know that death clause had been pre-war, had been in the lore as like a pre-war experiment for a while.
51:09 --> 51:10 [SPEAKER_01]: So he thought it was kind of weird.
51:10 --> 51:22 [SPEAKER_01]: And then I told him, like I don't remember all the details, but blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, on
51:23 --> 51:28 [SPEAKER_01]: So I feel like the people complaining about it just aren't aware.
51:28 --> 51:40 [SPEAKER_01]: I guess of like that bit of lore because like I wasn't aware of that until you and I covered it in our one of our b-serie episodes or maybe it was our on-clave episode I don't remember.
51:41 --> 51:42 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
51:44 --> 51:53 [SPEAKER_00]: I wonder if the death clause in this pre-war period like, did they have some sort of method of control developed for them already?
51:54 --> 51:58 [SPEAKER_00]: Is that why it didn't eat Cooper out of his little power arm or shell?
51:58 --> 51:59 [SPEAKER_01]: that is a good question.
51:59 --> 52:12 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm wondering if it's either that or maybe they could have even been more just like intelligent because they obviously like the Enclave had more state of the art facilities.
52:13 --> 52:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
52:14 --> 52:28 [SPEAKER_01]: At that or at least safety precautions I guess that they would in the wasteland because they really just don't have that I can turn with anyone safety in the way.
52:28 --> 52:41 [SPEAKER_00]: It makes sense to me, I would imagine that there's going to be some kind of explanation for it because we're getting more scenes between house and Cooper probably pre-war and post-war.
52:41 --> 52:58 [SPEAKER_00]: I would imagine if House is still around post-war, I can't imagine that they would cast House and have him be this important if he wasn't also going to be in his computer form post-war.
53:01 --> 53:02 [SPEAKER_01]: I thought there was something.
53:02 --> 53:04 [SPEAKER_00]: they might have in the trailer.
53:04 --> 53:05 [SPEAKER_00]: I think you're right.
53:05 --> 53:10 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that we did see the ghoul in front of the screen in the lucky 38.
53:10 --> 53:13 [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, you're something like that.
53:13 --> 53:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
53:15 --> 53:15 [SPEAKER_00]: Which the lucky 38.
53:16 --> 53:22 [SPEAKER_00]: This is where we see Cooper and Barb go into and have their little party.
53:22 --> 53:23 [SPEAKER_00]: This is house's control center.
53:24 --> 53:25 [SPEAKER_00]: This is his casino.
53:26 --> 53:31 [SPEAKER_00]: He runs it all of Vegas from there pretty much.
53:32 --> 53:32 [SPEAKER_00]: Speaking of house.
53:33 --> 53:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I have a very important question about this.
53:36 --> 53:36 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
53:38 --> 53:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Is it worth it?
53:40 --> 53:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Like for fake house, is it worth it?
53:44 --> 53:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Do we think?
53:47 --> 53:48 [SPEAKER_01]: It's got to be worth it.
53:49 --> 53:49 [SPEAKER_01]: You think?
53:50 --> 54:01 [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like I feel like his whole life is kind of ruined by that aside from like
54:02 --> 54:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Here's what I'll say about fake house, pretending to be selling for 10 years.
54:06 --> 54:22 [SPEAKER_00]: Granted, you can't have a personal life, like you can't just walk out onto the street, go to a restaurant, you can't show up at McDonald's and get yourself a burger and some fries without everyone recognizing you because you are in essence a billionaire.
54:23 --> 54:26 [SPEAKER_00]: That being said, despite not being able to have a personal life,
54:27 --> 54:35 [SPEAKER_00]: If what's more important to you is living your life essentially as a billionaire, like you are just a billionaire.
54:35 --> 54:37 [SPEAKER_01]: It does come with the luxury for sure.
54:38 --> 54:49 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like you're probably hanging out with all sorts of other rich people and you're on a yacht all the time and you're doing all this public facing stuff.
54:49 --> 54:52 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk about House's calculations a little bit.
54:52 --> 54:53 [SPEAKER_00]: He,
54:54 --> 54:58 [SPEAKER_00]: I've seen some confusion about this, and I'll be honest, I'm a little bit confused too.
54:59 --> 55:08 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that what he was trying to say is that the calculations came together, saying that Jayne's birthday was going to be the end of the world.
55:09 --> 55:20 [SPEAKER_00]: because yeah, they should be well past April 14th, 2065, the bombs drop on April, or I'm sorry, on October 23rd, 277.
55:21 --> 55:26 [SPEAKER_00]: And we see Janie as like 12 years old when the bombs drop.
55:26 --> 55:30 [SPEAKER_00]: So I think the house is talking about like the past tense here.
55:31 --> 55:33 [SPEAKER_00]: He's not saying the bombs are going to drop in 2065.
55:33 --> 55:35 [SPEAKER_00]: That wouldn't make any sense for the timeline.
55:36 --> 55:40 [SPEAKER_00]: And the creators have said, no, we're not changing the date that the bomb's drop.
55:40 --> 55:41 [SPEAKER_00]: It's still it's the same day.
55:43 --> 55:47 [SPEAKER_00]: So I think it was just maybe framed a little bit strange.
55:50 --> 56:05 [SPEAKER_00]: Like so that April 14th date and then the one month jump ahead is like when the data is coming together or when the data says the world has ended maybe another framing of it that could work is
56:06 --> 56:28 [SPEAKER_01]: that's the date that it was set in stone that the world ended like events were sent to motion exactly like that that's the point of no return that's kind of what I'm what I was just thinking about as we're like talking about this so yeah I think that's a perfectly great theory I mean I came with it too let's go it that one
56:28 --> 56:29 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
56:29 --> 56:29 [SPEAKER_00]: All right.
56:29 --> 56:31 [SPEAKER_00]: We're both betting our points on this.
56:31 --> 56:32 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if they'll ever come back to that.
56:33 --> 56:36 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure that they will house his all about his calculations in his math.
56:36 --> 56:42 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, the one thing I will while we're talking about the bombs being dropped.
56:43 --> 56:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Do we really want to know who dropped them?
56:44 --> 56:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Like who actually did like drop the first bomb?
56:50 --> 56:54 [SPEAKER_00]: This is something that I was thinking about a little bit while I was watching the show.
56:54 --> 56:57 [SPEAKER_00]: I rewatched the episode this morning.
56:57 --> 57:09 [SPEAKER_00]: a big part of the Fallout lore was kind of this idea that we don't know who dropped the bombs and that's we don't really need to know because in the end the world is destroyed and it doesn't matter.
57:09 --> 57:15 [SPEAKER_00]: So I am more thinking that in season one they introduce the idea that
57:15 --> 57:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Vault tech was going to drop the bombs themselves and then maybe they thought about it and they were like, you know Maybe we should backtrack this a little bit or maybe it was all the always their plan to not have that be the answer right I like the idea that being ambiguous like I think it really helps with the whole idea of like war being of how evil war is you know like
57:44 --> 58:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Because then it's it's not putting that blame on like a specific group, it's more of just like the the horrors of war I guess that being said if the house that Robert house is talking about is the onclave.
58:04 --> 58:20 [SPEAKER_00]: that it makes sense, if they would drive the bombs, like before the war, even the onclave is not just simply the remnants of the US government, it's like a super secret society of pre-war politicians and military personnel.
58:20 --> 58:41 [SPEAKER_00]: that believed the world was about to end for one reason or another, maybe they knew it was gonna end because they're the ones who did it, but their whole existence and their whole plan for the future of humanity hedged on the fact that the world is going to blow up and they're going to be the ones to put the pieces back together in some fucked up way.
58:43 --> 58:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I think that would
58:47 --> 58:49 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk about Cooper's Bender a little bit.
58:49 --> 58:50 [SPEAKER_00]: This was great.
58:51 --> 58:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, what a... You think she's me?
58:57 --> 58:58 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that was you yesterday.
58:58 --> 59:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Me, yesterday, what did I do?
59:02 --> 59:03 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
59:03 --> 59:05 [SPEAKER_00]: You were at the Lucky 38 riding on the rocket ship.
59:06 --> 59:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, my God.
59:08 --> 59:11 [SPEAKER_01]: I thought you were like saying I did something like that yesterday.
59:11 --> 59:12 [SPEAKER_01]: I was gonna say it.
59:12 --> 59:13 [SPEAKER_00]: I did, man.
59:13 --> 59:13 [SPEAKER_00]: I saw you.
59:14 --> 59:15 [SPEAKER_00]: I did that again.
59:15 --> 59:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, man.
59:16 --> 59:18 [SPEAKER_01]: I've never been to the casino.
59:18 --> 59:19 [SPEAKER_01]: I've never been a lucky 38.
59:19 --> 59:20 [SPEAKER_01]: I never knew Robert House.
59:21 --> 59:22 [SPEAKER_01]: I just wanted to picture with him one time.
59:27 --> 59:28 [SPEAKER_00]: Ha ha ha.
59:28 --> 59:29 [SPEAKER_00]: That's what they all say, man.
59:30 --> 59:30 [SPEAKER_00]: That's what they all say.
59:32 --> 59:39 [SPEAKER_00]: And when he concludes his bender, he wakes up with Barb and immediately says we need to talk.
59:40 --> 59:41 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm so excited to see.
59:41 --> 59:43 [SPEAKER_00]: I hope they do it in the next episode.
59:44 --> 59:50 [SPEAKER_01]: I want to see them do it next up so I want to talk about the fucking the the apocalypse.
59:50 --> 59:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Like what do you want about?
59:52 --> 59:53 [SPEAKER_00]: You know what?
59:53 --> 59:54 [SPEAKER_00]: You're kicking around.
59:54 --> 59:54 [SPEAKER_00]: We're done with.
59:54 --> 59:55 [SPEAKER_00]: Horny is sky.
59:56 --> 59:56 [SPEAKER_00]: I know.
59:56 --> 59:57 [SPEAKER_00]: We're done with you.
59:57 --> 01:00:00 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm kicking you from the podcast.
01:00:00 --> 01:00:00 [SPEAKER_00]: That's fair.
01:00:00 --> 01:00:03 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, AI Richard does everything anyways.
01:00:03 --> 01:00:04 [SPEAKER_00]: He does.
01:00:04 --> 01:00:06 [SPEAKER_00]: He replaces you in every episode anyways.
01:00:09 --> 01:00:14 [SPEAKER_00]: You get maybe one minute of talking and AI Richard replaces the rest with what I want
01:00:14 --> 01:00:19 [SPEAKER_01]: And all of a minute of talking that I get is the speel about how the content is.
01:00:20 --> 01:00:22 [SPEAKER_00]: And even that I replace some weeks, God.
01:00:22 --> 01:00:25 [SPEAKER_00]: Wow, messed up dude.
01:00:26 --> 01:00:30 [SPEAKER_00]: But no, I really hope that we get to see their conversation next week.
01:00:30 --> 01:00:31 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to wait for it.
01:00:32 --> 01:00:47 [SPEAKER_01]: I'd be cool if like that's one of the things that he Like how you said if if next episode he's like on that poll the entire time or at least for like a good amount of the episode on that poll What are you talking about?
01:00:47 --> 01:01:02 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, sorry if he's a two-way stream in pal that if he's impaled like Missmer himself came up and merked him All right That's like that would be that would be a good flashback to include and probably to start with
01:01:02 --> 01:01:04 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think so.
01:01:05 --> 01:01:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:01:06 --> 01:01:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Hell, that'd be even a good, like, open because they have been hitting on these opens every episode.
01:01:12 --> 01:01:13 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:01:13 --> 01:01:26 [SPEAKER_00]: It's really a testament to the writing of this show that the most interesting thing, or at least I think the most interesting part of a post-apocalyptic TV show is the pre-war stuff.
01:01:26 --> 01:01:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Like the, yeah, that's rare.
01:01:27 --> 01:01:29 [SPEAKER_01]: It is.
01:01:29 --> 01:01:31 [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's great.
01:01:31 --> 01:01:40 [SPEAKER_01]: I've never cared this much about something completely outside of like the the fallout universe that I'm used to.
01:01:40 --> 01:01:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because obviously like we get snippets of free war like at the start of four.
01:01:47 --> 01:02:09 [SPEAKER_01]: uh... most everything else is like lower terminal isn't stuff i think that's really are for what follow forward with our first real look into pre-war america yeah do you think and i guess this is something i want to add just as like a game really a question do you think fall out five will have something similar
01:02:10 --> 01:02:11 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think so.
01:02:11 --> 01:02:22 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that they're going to go back to the purely post war stuff and less they wanted to do another character who was alive before the war, but I can't imagine that they'll want to do that again.
01:02:22 --> 01:02:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:02:24 --> 01:02:28 [SPEAKER_00]: Unless they want to do like that the main character is a goal.
01:02:28 --> 01:02:29 [SPEAKER_00]: That would be kind of cool.
01:02:30 --> 01:02:32 [SPEAKER_01]: I would fuck with that actually.
01:02:32 --> 01:02:33 [SPEAKER_01]: Or like
01:02:35 --> 01:02:35 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't even know.
01:02:35 --> 01:02:45 [SPEAKER_01]: There's so many weird things that could be done and fall out that I don't even, I'd play a rater even, like at least like you start off as a rater.
01:02:45 --> 01:02:46 [SPEAKER_01]: That'd be cool.
01:02:47 --> 01:02:56 [SPEAKER_00]: Because I kind of like the way that Starfield approached character creation where your character has a past and you can choose your character's past.
01:02:57 --> 01:02:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like you can make like the adoring fan.
01:02:59 --> 01:03:07 [SPEAKER_01]: You could do the thing where like you have a house on a nice planet or like your parents are still alive but you send them money and stuff like that.
01:03:08 --> 01:03:08 [SPEAKER_01]: It was cool.
01:03:09 --> 01:03:09 [SPEAKER_00]: it is cool.
01:03:09 --> 01:03:10 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, follow it new Vegas.
01:03:11 --> 01:03:23 [SPEAKER_00]: You can't choose your own background, but the player character does have a background and there's certain dialogue options you can choose that hint at what the career was doing before you got shot in the head.
01:03:23 --> 01:03:30 [SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, basically all of the DLC for new Vegas is you confronting the career as past.
01:03:31 --> 01:03:31 [SPEAKER_00]: So.
01:03:31 --> 01:03:39 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, interesting stuff there, but anyway, any final thoughts on this pre-war stuff before we move on to the vault dwellers?
01:03:40 --> 01:03:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, nothing, like, nothing I haven't said before.
01:03:42 --> 01:03:43 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm excited.
01:03:43 --> 01:03:44 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm hyped.
01:03:45 --> 01:03:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Cool.
01:03:45 --> 01:03:47 [SPEAKER_01]: That's a battle I got, I guess.
01:03:47 --> 01:03:50 [SPEAKER_00]: All right, let's talk about the vault dwellers a little bit.
01:03:51 --> 01:03:54 [SPEAKER_00]: Stephanie and Betty, they're sparring over the future of the vaults.
01:03:54 --> 01:03:58 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, Betty believes that the survival of their communities should take priority.
01:03:59 --> 01:04:07 [SPEAKER_00]: Steph seems to think that following the vault tech directives, that's the only way through or at least the only way through unless she gets what she wants.
01:04:07 --> 01:04:28 [SPEAKER_00]: And on the other side of things, Norm is leading the 31st through the wasteland and eventually gets to the Valtek HQ where he learns that his trio of vaults has a connection to future enterprise ventures, which is a cover for the terrifying substance in the Fallout universe known as F-E-V, the forced evolutionary virus.
01:04:30 --> 01:04:33 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and if you want to know more about the forced evolutionary virus,
01:04:34 --> 01:04:36 [SPEAKER_01]: We have an episode on it, or at least involving it.
01:04:37 --> 01:04:38 [SPEAKER_01]: I believe that's the on-clave one.
01:04:39 --> 01:04:41 [SPEAKER_00]: I think we have like a super mutant.
01:04:42 --> 01:04:42 [SPEAKER_00]: We do.
01:04:43 --> 01:04:43 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, you do.
01:04:43 --> 01:04:44 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, you do.
01:04:44 --> 01:04:45 [SPEAKER_00]: You're right.
01:04:45 --> 01:04:46 [SPEAKER_00]: One of those episodes.
01:04:46 --> 01:04:48 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe I'll link it in the description.
01:04:48 --> 01:04:54 [SPEAKER_00]: If I remember while I'm editing tomorrow, I will add that in.
01:04:54 --> 01:04:57 [SPEAKER_00]: But let's talk about these vaults.
01:04:58 --> 01:05:07 [SPEAKER_00]: Woody, I love that he overhears Steph and Betty talking and then decides that the best course of action is to report Steph to herself.
01:05:08 --> 01:05:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's kind of messed up.
01:05:11 --> 01:05:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Although I'm glad that Chet is starting to figure stuff out and I'm hoping that maybe he can, he and Woody can like meet up and talk, talk some stuff.
01:05:21 --> 01:05:26 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I just hope that poor Woody doesn't get found
01:05:27 --> 01:05:49 [SPEAKER_00]: like sunny like sunny yeah i've a feeling that's where but he's heading but i hope not i love woodie i don't know what he's gonna head over to vault thirty one it imagine he goes over there and he's like damn this place is empty vault no no he's gonna get magically sent off to vault thirty one to live yeah woodie is on an exchange program to vault thirty one
01:05:49 --> 01:05:49 [SPEAKER_00]: with norm.
01:05:50 --> 01:05:51 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.
01:05:52 --> 01:06:01 [SPEAKER_00]: And chat finds steps old USA Canadian annexed territory ID, which let's get into the lore of this just briefly.
01:06:01 --> 01:06:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I saw a TikTok and I don't remember really what what it was on because this was like two weeks ago now, but it was about this.
01:06:09 --> 01:06:11 [SPEAKER_01]: So I'd love to hear what you got.
01:06:12 --> 01:06:14 [SPEAKER_00]: So before the war,
01:06:15 --> 01:06:29 [SPEAKER_00]: The USA running out of resources, and they just decide that Canada isn't a very good neighbor because they have resources that they won't give for free, something familiar.
01:06:29 --> 01:06:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:06:31 --> 01:06:32 [SPEAKER_00]: Greenland.
01:06:34 --> 01:06:45 [SPEAKER_00]: So they just roll in and annex Canada and they overthrow the government of Mexico and essentially put in a puppet government to control all of the resources in Mexico.
01:06:46 --> 01:06:55 [SPEAKER_00]: So prior to the war, the US has full control over Canada and partial control over Mexico.
01:06:56 --> 01:07:10 [SPEAKER_00]: During this time, in fact, in the opening of fallout one, there's an old news broadcast that plays where you literally see US soldiers in power armor executing Canadian protesters in the streets.
01:07:11 --> 01:07:13 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's wonderful.
01:07:13 --> 01:07:19 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so if that tells you anything about the US government and military in the fallout timeline,
01:07:20 --> 01:07:24 [SPEAKER_01]: The government is evil folks.
01:07:24 --> 01:07:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the government does not have your back in the fallout universe or it's an average in every other world.
01:07:31 --> 01:07:33 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to say that the fallout is a fallout.
01:07:34 --> 01:07:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it might be better honestly in the fallout sometimes.
01:07:39 --> 01:07:39 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm kidding.
01:07:39 --> 01:07:41 [SPEAKER_01]: They are inexcusable in these games.
01:07:42 --> 01:07:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there they're doing some pretty awful stuff in these games, um, but, you know, don't like see how quickly it's time to get the emerging that would never happen in real life, right?
01:07:55 --> 01:07:56 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the government always has our back.
01:07:56 --> 01:07:58 [SPEAKER_00]: They would never do anything against us.
01:07:58 --> 01:08:00 [SPEAKER_00]: Dude, that's what cyberpunk taught me.
01:08:00 --> 01:08:02 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.
01:08:02 --> 01:08:04 [SPEAKER_00]: And corporations, of course.
01:08:04 --> 01:08:05 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:08:05 --> 01:08:13 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, Steph, she asks Betty to get her a box that belongs to Hank in exchange for the water in her vault.
01:08:14 --> 01:08:16 [SPEAKER_00]: What could possibly be in this box?
01:08:16 --> 01:08:17 [SPEAKER_00]: I have no good guesses.
01:08:18 --> 01:08:19 [SPEAKER_01]: On-clave communicator.
01:08:21 --> 01:08:31 [SPEAKER_01]: That's not been thinking the entire time on-clave communicator, or something related to his boss, at least, who I think is the on-clave.
01:08:32 --> 01:08:33 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:08:33 --> 01:08:38 [SPEAKER_00]: So that begs the question, does Barb have any connection to the on-click or is she kind of in the dark about all this?
01:08:39 --> 01:08:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I think, and this is one of my later, like, uh, things, but whatever.
01:08:45 --> 01:08:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I think Barb is fully in the on-click because like, she's, or, again, obviously we know she's involved with the, the, with the house as,
01:08:59 --> 01:09:02 [SPEAKER_01]: I, and like I said, I believe the house is the on-clave.
01:09:03 --> 01:09:07 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I think barb is knuckles deep.
01:09:09 --> 01:09:10 [SPEAKER_00]: I would have to agree.
01:09:11 --> 01:09:13 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I she's got something to do with it.
01:09:13 --> 01:09:20 [SPEAKER_00]: Even if she is not like fully in the on-clave, I think that she at least knows about them and is maybe a point of contact.
01:09:20 --> 01:09:25 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe she doesn't really grasp the full extent of what is involved there.
01:09:25 --> 01:09:26 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
01:09:26 --> 01:09:27 [SPEAKER_00]: But then again,
01:09:28 --> 01:09:35 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want a character as Barb as being like not knowing what's going on.
01:09:35 --> 01:09:37 [SPEAKER_00]: She knows what's going on for the most.
01:09:37 --> 01:09:39 [SPEAKER_00]: Like she's fully involved.
01:09:39 --> 01:09:40 [SPEAKER_00]: She's pretty evil.
01:09:40 --> 01:09:41 [SPEAKER_00]: She knows of what's happening.
01:09:41 --> 01:09:45 [SPEAKER_01]: I believe she was the one who said what if we dropped the bombs ourselves.
01:09:45 --> 01:09:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:09:47 --> 01:09:49 [SPEAKER_01]: So that's that's all I got to say.
01:09:49 --> 01:09:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:09:51 --> 01:09:51 [SPEAKER_00]: All right.
01:09:52 --> 01:09:57 [SPEAKER_00]: And he thoughts on the vaults before we talk about Norm's expedition a little bit.
01:09:58 --> 01:10:01 [SPEAKER_00]: Dude, poor David, poor David.
01:10:01 --> 01:10:07 [SPEAKER_01]: It's so hard, you know, you take a right and it's supposed to be a left.
01:10:08 --> 01:10:11 [SPEAKER_01]: And then sometimes you're taking a left and it's supposed to be a right.
01:10:12 --> 01:10:13 [SPEAKER_00]: What are you doing?
01:10:13 --> 01:10:13 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
01:10:14 --> 01:10:24 [SPEAKER_01]: That's like, I do like, though, that's like representative of the fact that they're all just kind of like tags in the vault tech machine.
01:10:24 --> 01:10:34 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they have their tasks that they were assigned at like the age of 10 years old and they've just done one thing their whole lives to keep this really fragile community afloat.
01:10:36 --> 01:10:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and for whatever reason, sometimes the has to involve fucking your cousin.
01:10:42 --> 01:10:47 [SPEAKER_00]: It's sometimes it just has to, but as long as you're not reproducing apparently that's fine, just.
01:10:48 --> 01:10:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't I don't like that.
01:10:50 --> 01:10:52 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's just that's just wrong.
01:10:52 --> 01:10:57 [SPEAKER_00]: I like how they manage to bring up the cousin stuff so off it.
01:10:57 --> 01:11:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Like it's just so like even I keep wanting to call her Ella Jesus Christ Lucy.
01:11:04 --> 01:11:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Lucy McLean.
01:11:07 --> 01:11:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, we'll say like cousins.
01:11:09 --> 01:11:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, we'll mention cousin stuff out in the wasteland to people who have no clue what that means.
01:11:16 --> 01:11:22 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's just kind of insane, but we need to do a counter in this season.
01:11:22 --> 01:11:24 [SPEAKER_00]: We need to go back and watch all the episodes.
01:11:24 --> 01:11:26 [SPEAKER_00]: I would track of how many times we'll do that.
01:11:28 --> 01:11:30 [SPEAKER_01]: You know what, you do, you do the season one.
01:11:30 --> 01:11:34 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll do the series because I got to rewatch season one because I lowkey forgot some stuff.
01:11:34 --> 01:11:35 [SPEAKER_00]: I think okay, that's fair.
01:11:36 --> 01:11:38 [SPEAKER_00]: All right, that's a deal.
01:11:40 --> 01:11:45 [SPEAKER_00]: What do we- I love that Norm's expedition is just surviving off of like junk food.
01:11:45 --> 01:11:54 [SPEAKER_00]: They've got their lamb co-mac and cheese, basically just craft mac and cheese and potato chips and all of this stuff.
01:11:55 --> 01:11:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Wait a minute.
01:11:56 --> 01:11:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Norm's from Vault 33, right?
01:11:59 --> 01:12:00 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
01:12:01 --> 01:12:03 [SPEAKER_01]: And they're on an expedition.
01:12:03 --> 01:12:06 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't even think about that.
01:12:06 --> 01:12:09 [SPEAKER_00]: That's a crazy connection.
01:12:09 --> 01:12:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Yep, yep.
01:12:10 --> 01:12:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Number one game.
01:12:11 --> 01:12:14 [SPEAKER_01]: It's the number one part of Fallout season 2.
01:12:15 --> 01:12:15 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:12:15 --> 01:12:16 [SPEAKER_01]: It wins every award.
01:12:17 --> 01:12:18 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
01:12:18 --> 01:12:23 [SPEAKER_00]: The best Fallout character or best Fallout plot line award goes to Expedition 33.
01:12:23 --> 01:12:23 [SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
01:12:24 --> 01:12:27 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not hitting on the game for for the viewers.
01:12:27 --> 01:12:33 [SPEAKER_01]: I actually like the game so far, but it's a little, it's a little wild.
01:12:33 --> 01:12:34 [SPEAKER_00]: It seems good.
01:12:34 --> 01:12:35 [SPEAKER_00]: I haven't played it.
01:12:35 --> 01:12:37 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll get around to it one of these days.
01:12:37 --> 01:12:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, totally that's what I say all the time and they run into Majoon and barve from Philly who fill them in on things and her name was barve her name is Yeah, the one who's like got the receiving hairline her name is barve.
01:12:54 --> 01:13:04 [SPEAKER_01]: I thought her name was barb That made so much more sense barb Barb I guess
01:13:04 --> 01:13:05 [SPEAKER_00]: They're not big enough for Marky.
01:13:05 --> 01:13:14 [SPEAKER_00]: I love just the naive vault dwellers stuff where they're like, how big are they and she takes it as like, oh, are they ready yet?
01:13:14 --> 01:13:18 [SPEAKER_00]: She just goes, I've got quite big enough for Marky, but they're getting there.
01:13:19 --> 01:13:26 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's so insane, but that has been, and I'll talk about this more at the end.
01:13:26 --> 01:13:29 [SPEAKER_01]: But that has been one of my favorite parts of the show, as I've said before.
01:13:29 --> 01:13:33 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I love, I love seeing clueless vault dwellers go into the world.
01:13:34 --> 01:13:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Air into the wasteland.
01:13:35 --> 01:13:45 [SPEAKER_00]: And Modgio and even comments on that when she's explaining like, Oh, NCR, Conterritory, Onclave, Brotherhood, and Normus just like, What are you talking about?
01:13:45 --> 01:13:48 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I guess you vaulties don't care much for current events.
01:13:49 --> 01:13:59 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like opening TikTok and it's just like the comment section is like the orange peel theory Yeah, what are you talking about like I hate to be that guy.
01:14:00 --> 01:14:00 [SPEAKER_01]: I have a job.
01:14:01 --> 01:14:02 [SPEAKER_01]: What does that mean?
01:14:02 --> 01:14:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, or just the brain rot on TikTok.
01:14:06 --> 01:14:07 [SPEAKER_00]: I can't keep up.
01:14:07 --> 01:14:12 [SPEAKER_01]: I can't keep up with all these terms I unfortunately can keep up with the brain rot pretty good
01:14:12 --> 01:14:31 [SPEAKER_00]: everyone talking about getting their making their boyfriend use their gwashing all that I don't really all that so much brainwrath that I'm on I'm on like local can you and me yeah it's just there's too much ridiculousness out there i can't keep track
01:14:31 --> 01:14:41 [SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was really sweet when they get up to the vault tech offices and norm is bonding with Claudia, the one who like joined Buds Buds a week before the bombs dropped.
01:14:41 --> 01:14:43 [SPEAKER_00]: I felt so bad for her.
01:14:43 --> 01:14:52 [SPEAKER_00]: I can't imagine this is the most terrifying part about post-apocalyptic stuff for me is just one day.
01:14:52 --> 01:15:03 [SPEAKER_00]: you wake up in the world that you knew every little bit of comfort, every single thing that you enjoyed in this life and knew to be true is gone.
01:15:03 --> 01:15:11 [SPEAKER_00]: And you have to adapt to a new environment that wants to kill you, like everything you knew and loved.
01:15:11 --> 01:15:15 [SPEAKER_01]: And oh yeah, it's horrifying concept.
01:15:16 --> 01:15:16 [SPEAKER_00]: terrifying.
01:15:17 --> 01:15:22 [SPEAKER_00]: And like, for her, the end of the world was literally a week ago.
01:15:23 --> 01:15:29 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, she has to grieve her pet her parents, her friends, everyone that she loved in this life.
01:15:30 --> 01:15:40 [SPEAKER_00]: While also trying to adapt, it's just an insane concept.
01:15:41 --> 01:15:42 [SPEAKER_00]: This is the guy he knows.
01:15:42 --> 01:15:49 [SPEAKER_00]: I think he knows about the forced evolutionary virus for sure, and the real plan phase two for the vaults.
01:15:50 --> 01:15:52 [SPEAKER_00]: It's got to be turning them all into super mutant.
01:15:52 --> 01:15:56 [SPEAKER_00]: Super managers must be just code for super mutants.
01:15:58 --> 01:15:59 [SPEAKER_01]: See, it could be.
01:15:59 --> 01:16:03 [SPEAKER_01]: And that's what I'm thinking about those like Claudia, right?
01:16:04 --> 01:16:06 [SPEAKER_01]: She's she's working at Vault Tech for a week.
01:16:07 --> 01:16:10 [SPEAKER_01]: And she got invited into this thing.
01:16:10 --> 01:16:11 [SPEAKER_01]: They're amazing.
01:16:11 --> 01:16:18 [SPEAKER_01]: There's gotta be a reason, maybe, and this is like a stretch, but it might not be a stretch.
01:16:19 --> 01:16:26 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, super mutants being controlled by the chips, right?
01:16:27 --> 01:16:28 [SPEAKER_01]: That could be a plan.
01:16:29 --> 01:16:40 [SPEAKER_01]: That could be the plan because a lot of these people don't have, they don't seem to have any like
01:16:40 --> 01:16:58 [SPEAKER_00]: skills necessary for navigating post-apocalyptic wastelands, they might be good administrators when it comes to running a company, even that's questionable though, and yeah, they're not ready for this.
01:16:58 --> 01:17:02 [SPEAKER_01]: So it's definitely got to be like, they just need warm bodies type thing.
01:17:03 --> 01:17:05 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I would like that.
01:17:05 --> 01:17:07 [SPEAKER_00]: I like that theory quite a lot.
01:17:07 --> 01:17:18 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, and as soon as Norm finds out about the FV Ronnie calls him out and unplugs the computer and proceeds to knock him out by choking him with the computer wire.
01:17:20 --> 01:17:20 [SPEAKER_00]: You let me off.
01:17:20 --> 01:17:25 [SPEAKER_01]: I was getting invested in like in like the puzzle or not the puzzle.
01:17:25 --> 01:17:27 [SPEAKER_01]: I guess, but like the reveal and everything, I was so hyped.
01:17:28 --> 01:17:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:17:30 --> 01:17:32 [SPEAKER_00]: That brings me into our thoughts section.
01:17:32 --> 01:17:35 [SPEAKER_00]: And I also started off with one of my thoughts.
01:17:36 --> 01:17:41 [SPEAKER_00]: Do we think that super mutant norm is incoming?
01:17:41 --> 01:17:49 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's possible, definitely not soon, but it's, it could be down the line.
01:17:49 --> 01:17:55 [SPEAKER_00]: I think I, I kind of hope that we get super mutant norm.
01:17:55 --> 01:17:55 [SPEAKER_00]: I can't lie.
01:17:55 --> 01:17:58 [SPEAKER_01]: I think it'd be interesting because then he'd actually be the,
01:17:59 --> 01:18:00 [SPEAKER_01]: super manager.
01:18:00 --> 01:18:02 [SPEAKER_00]: He would be the super manager.
01:18:02 --> 01:18:14 [SPEAKER_00]: He is a genetically engineered super manager and I think it would be even better If because I'm guessing the vault tech has like the pure FV the good stuff so to speak.
01:18:14 --> 01:18:18 [SPEAKER_00]: So if Norm gets dipped in the bat Imagine like
01:18:18 --> 01:18:28 [SPEAKER_00]: If you're familiar for the listeners at home, if you're familiar with like the Batman stuff where the Joker falls into a vat of acid, that is essentially what they do to make super mutants.
01:18:28 --> 01:18:33 [SPEAKER_00]: They like dip you into a vat of green liquid and it mutates you into his super mutant.
01:18:34 --> 01:18:39 [SPEAKER_00]: And the first generation super mutants that are made using the good stuff, they retain their intelligence.
01:18:40 --> 01:18:42 [SPEAKER_00]: So I hope we get intelligent, super mutant norm.
01:18:43 --> 01:18:45 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you, that is my podcast.
01:18:45 --> 01:18:46 [SPEAKER_00]: That is my TED Talk for today.
01:18:48 --> 01:18:49 [SPEAKER_01]: No, it's not.
01:18:49 --> 01:18:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Your name is not Ted.
01:18:52 --> 01:18:54 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, my name is Hank.
01:18:54 --> 01:18:54 [SPEAKER_00]: Hank McLean.
01:18:55 --> 01:18:56 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, is it now?
01:18:56 --> 01:18:56 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
01:18:57 --> 01:18:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Good to know.
01:18:58 --> 01:18:59 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm, I'm Robert.
01:18:59 --> 01:19:00 [SPEAKER_01]: Robbie, Bobby House.
01:19:01 --> 01:19:02 [SPEAKER_00]: Bobby House.
01:19:02 --> 01:19:08 [SPEAKER_00]: Do you have any thoughts on this episode in general?
01:19:08 --> 01:19:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Not that I didn't already say, I think, you know, more Google flashbacks next episode.
01:19:14 --> 01:19:18 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm hyped for because of what was set up, and, uh, Barbon Hank.
01:19:19 --> 01:19:19 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:19:20 --> 01:19:20 [SPEAKER_00]: On-clave.
01:19:21 --> 01:19:22 [SPEAKER_00]: That's, that's all I got.
01:19:23 --> 01:19:29 [SPEAKER_00]: I think the only thing I didn't mention other than Super Mutant norm is that I really doubt how says calculations.
01:19:29 --> 01:19:31 [SPEAKER_00]: He can, he knows a lot.
01:19:32 --> 01:19:36 [SPEAKER_00]: But I think he trusts in his own calculations a little bit too much.
01:19:38 --> 01:19:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, you're right.
01:19:40 --> 01:20:00 [SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of like, I know you don't watch foundation, but for anyone at home, he reminds me a lot of Harry Selden, who he invents psychohistory in foundation and puts together like calculations and math to predict the course of humanity and like, oh, major events that are going to happen.
01:20:00 --> 01:20:01 [SPEAKER_00]: It's really, it's interesting.
01:20:02 --> 01:20:05 [SPEAKER_00]: I think someone in the discord mentioned that link to that.
01:20:05 --> 01:20:08 [SPEAKER_00]: It was very Harry Selden of him.
01:20:08 --> 01:20:14 [SPEAKER_01]: There is something, of course, because it does pull from foundation quite a bit and do and a few others.
01:20:15 --> 01:20:16 [SPEAKER_01]: There's something like that in the song, either.
01:20:17 --> 01:20:21 [SPEAKER_01]: And his name is here soon changed and he's interesting.
01:20:21 --> 01:20:22 [SPEAKER_01]: He's an interesting little fella.
01:20:23 --> 01:20:24 [SPEAKER_00]: Interesting.
01:20:25 --> 01:20:32 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so lots of mathematical, I guess, what's the word I'm looking at?
01:20:32 --> 01:20:35 [SPEAKER_00]: The mathematical anthropologists or mathematical
01:20:36 --> 01:20:38 [SPEAKER_00]: just, they do the numbers.
01:20:38 --> 01:20:39 [SPEAKER_00]: They do the numbers.
01:20:39 --> 01:21:05 [SPEAKER_01]: They try and figure out what's going on with people based off of numbers, which whenever you have people reducing humans into numbers and calculations, it's never, it could never, and it never works because, and this is the one thing that always gets me about this trope, it never works because they never account for human emotion.
01:21:06 --> 01:21:06 [SPEAKER_00]: every time.
01:21:07 --> 01:21:09 [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know if that's what's going to happen in this.
01:21:09 --> 01:21:23 [SPEAKER_00]: I will say that Robert House definitely gets his calculations wrong because part of his plan was receiving this item called the platinum chip which kind of brings his plans together and the bombs go off before he can get it delivered to him.
01:21:23 --> 01:21:27 [SPEAKER_00]: So I think that he he's off by at least a few days.
01:21:29 --> 01:21:31 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, for sure.
01:21:32 --> 01:21:37 [SPEAKER_00]: you want to get into how you felt about the episode as a whole, give us your professional review.
01:21:38 --> 01:21:39 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, professional review.
01:21:39 --> 01:21:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
01:21:40 --> 01:21:42 [SPEAKER_00]: We're very serious over here on Radioactive Ramplings.
01:21:44 --> 01:21:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
01:21:44 --> 01:21:46 [SPEAKER_01]: This episode, these episodes were quite exquisite.
01:21:46 --> 01:21:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
01:21:48 --> 01:21:50 [SPEAKER_01]: They were pretty solid for their own reasons, of course.
01:21:50 --> 01:22:02 [SPEAKER_01]: The first one, the brotherhood plot, not carried, but was definitely like the heavy header for episode four.
01:22:02 --> 01:22:21 [SPEAKER_01]: in episode four but more in five have been absolutely insane i mean that the way that they're done pretty like side by side with the current goal is just amazing it's one of my favorite ways of doing flashbacks i feel like that's kind of the best way to do it um
01:22:21 --> 01:22:25 [SPEAKER_01]: and then this is just kind of a jumble of random words, I guess.
01:22:26 --> 01:22:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Lucy figuring out how the wasteland works has been and still is the like prime part of the show in my opinion.
01:22:34 --> 01:22:43 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a really cool mirror of like the first playthrough for most people's fallout experiences, I guess, is like
01:22:43 --> 01:22:55 [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like when you start playing Fallout, you're going to try to solve things somewhat peacefully at least versus like now if I'm playing Fallout, I'm low key just going to start shooting if I have to.
01:22:55 --> 01:22:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Like if I know I have to, I'm just going, I'm not even going to try.
01:22:59 --> 01:23:06 [SPEAKER_01]: So like I feel like that's a good part for like immersion almost.
01:23:08 --> 01:23:14 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'd give episode 4 on 8 and I'd have to give episode 5 and 9.5 out of 10.
01:23:14 --> 01:23:15 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, peak.
01:23:16 --> 01:23:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I pretty much agree with everything you said there.
01:23:22 --> 01:23:37 [SPEAKER_00]: I really thought that these episodes were great for was a really solid edition, some good progress in the brotherhood of steel storyline, episode five, that's where I really think the season found it's strongest storytelling.
01:23:37 --> 01:23:39 [SPEAKER_00]: It really, the season has found its footing.
01:23:39 --> 01:23:43 [SPEAKER_00]: I talked about it before, so I won't, I won't be to dead horse over here.
01:23:44 --> 01:23:51 [SPEAKER_00]: But the way that this show is able to weave together all of the pre-war stuff with coop
01:23:52 --> 01:23:53 [SPEAKER_00]: It's just awesome.
01:23:53 --> 01:23:56 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what else to say about it.
01:23:56 --> 01:24:04 [SPEAKER_00]: It's art and the conflict between the goal and Lucy is definitely going to define the season and what it looks like moving forward.
01:24:05 --> 01:24:09 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's perhaps going to force the goal to come to terms with who he used to be.
01:24:09 --> 01:24:14 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think episode four deserves a solid seven and a half out of ten.
01:24:14 --> 01:24:18 [SPEAKER_00]: Episode five is my favorite episode in the entire series so far.
01:24:18 --> 01:24:23 [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going to give that a 9.5 out of ten just like Richard from me.
01:24:24 --> 01:24:27 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think it was a near perfect episode for this series.
01:24:28 --> 01:24:33 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean next week, uh, an extra could do it.
01:24:34 --> 01:24:35 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, be better.
01:24:36 --> 01:24:45 [SPEAKER_00]: So I have gathered a couple of pieces of feedback from our little Discord forums, so let's jump into that real quick before we wrap up today.
01:24:45 --> 01:24:54 [SPEAKER_00]: First we have Sub-Zero, who says, I'm convinced Max is Tavarian or a Nexus being.
01:24:55 --> 01:24:59 [SPEAKER_00]: He's so dumb sometimes, but everything he does seems to set off shockwaves.
01:24:59 --> 01:25:22 [SPEAKER_00]: He should have killed Quintus, how the hell do you let an old man get the drop on you when you're the one pointing the gun, and why the hell didn't he grab a suit on the way out, bringing fatty us back was a lot of fun, but I'm worried about those kids, who's watching over them, sad about only getting command non-giani for one episode, I thought he was going to be a key character, but it turned out to only be a cameo.
01:25:22 --> 01:25:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, um, I actually wanted to talk about that last bit for sure.
01:25:26 --> 01:25:32 [SPEAKER_01]: I love kumel non-Johnny Please help me out with the pronunciation if I'm wrong.
01:25:33 --> 01:25:34 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that was pretty good.
01:25:34 --> 01:25:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Kumel non-Johnny But yeah, I think he's great.
01:25:36 --> 01:25:37 [SPEAKER_01]: I think he's a great actor.
01:25:37 --> 01:25:39 [SPEAKER_01]: I think he's fucking hilarious.
01:25:39 --> 01:25:43 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean I was really bummed when he died.
01:25:43 --> 01:25:50 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not bummed that his character died because like his character
01:25:50 --> 01:25:51 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:25:51 --> 01:25:52 [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
01:25:53 --> 01:26:00 [SPEAKER_00]: I like your point, sub-zero about how the healthy letting old man get the drop on you, like, etc.
01:26:00 --> 01:26:05 [SPEAKER_00]: Do old decaying, decrepit old ass man.
01:26:05 --> 01:26:07 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like, quintess.
01:26:08 --> 01:26:13 [SPEAKER_00]: There was a day when he used to wear that power armor and he was probably formidable.
01:26:13 --> 01:26:15 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that that's anymore.
01:26:15 --> 01:26:18 [SPEAKER_00]: He has his like, I don't think we've ever talked about how weird his cane looks.
01:26:19 --> 01:26:23 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like all spiky and has like barbed wire on it or something.
01:26:23 --> 01:26:27 [SPEAKER_00]: It's really, let me like pull up a pick of the Quintisc.
01:26:27 --> 01:26:35 [SPEAKER_00]: If I search a Quintiscan, will maybe, but even like, he doesn't really use it as a cane that often.
01:26:35 --> 01:26:38 [SPEAKER_00]: He kind of just like bangs on the table and waves it around.
01:26:39 --> 01:26:45 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going cane shopping, what are we doing?
01:26:45 --> 01:26:48 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, you're looking for the cane.
01:26:48 --> 01:26:50 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to read Cincinnati Joe's feedback.
01:26:51 --> 01:26:56 [SPEAKER_00]: In a flashback, last episode, Whiteknife talks about killing three people to save Cooper.
01:26:57 --> 01:27:03 [SPEAKER_00]: Was that referring to the opening flashback of this episode where the demon kills three enemies and leaves Cooper to be rescued by Whiteknife?
01:27:04 --> 01:27:12 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe that's going to be the official story in another flashback to cover up the genetically engineered beast that the US seems to have used on their enemies.
01:27:13 --> 01:27:13 [SPEAKER_00]: That's great.
01:27:13 --> 01:27:18 [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't think about that, but now that you have brought that into my ear, earned
01:27:19 --> 01:27:20 [SPEAKER_00]: brought that to my attention.
01:27:21 --> 01:27:22 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you're not too long.
01:27:22 --> 01:27:23 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, exactly.
01:27:24 --> 01:27:25 [SPEAKER_00]: Now that's been brought to me.
01:27:26 --> 01:27:34 [SPEAKER_00]: That would make sense, because, officially, they're not going to admit that they have death claws running around.
01:27:34 --> 01:27:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I cannot find this, but I'll take your word for it that is a weird ascane.
01:27:41 --> 01:27:51 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm assuming he probably just uses it as a more as a weapon, but the cane, I'd have to assume, especially knowing Quintus, like with how manipulative he is.
01:27:51 --> 01:27:55 [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's just to like make people feel bad for him, Loki.
01:27:56 --> 01:28:11 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, if anyone is familiar with like pie cell from Game of Thrones, the kind of an older man faking being a little bit on the feeble side to garnish a sympathy that yeah, but like he's actually locked in the entire time.
01:28:11 --> 01:28:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know if Quintus is quite locked in locked in, but he definitely.
01:28:16 --> 01:28:20 [SPEAKER_00]: He had some moves, he had some moves going on for sure.
01:28:20 --> 01:28:30 [SPEAKER_00]: And then finally, we have some feedback from Warren, who says the freeside community was actually filmed in the same back-law as sweet water from Westworld.
01:28:31 --> 01:28:37 [SPEAKER_00]: You can't really tell because they read the buildings completely, but it's also where the show Deadwood was filmed.
01:28:37 --> 01:28:50 [SPEAKER_00]: That's really cool, and that makes sense because the people who are behind fall out are the creators of Westworld.
01:28:51 --> 01:28:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that is fire though.
01:28:54 --> 01:28:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Anyways, Richard, you want to take us out?
01:28:57 --> 01:28:58 [SPEAKER_01]: We're gonna wrap up today.
01:28:58 --> 01:29:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Thanks, everyone, for joining us, and we hope you enjoy it.
01:29:02 --> 01:29:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Let us know what you think.
01:29:04 --> 01:29:08 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and thanks to everyone who wrote in in the discord.
01:29:09 --> 01:29:17 [SPEAKER_00]: We're loving seeing all of the discussion in there, but before we let you guys go, just wanna give a quick shout out to all the other podcasts on the network.
01:29:17 --> 01:29:21 [SPEAKER_00]: First of all, the ones who make it all possible, are parent podcasts at the lower homes.
01:29:21 --> 01:29:24 [SPEAKER_00]: They are doing some coverage of the pit, which I actually,
01:29:24 --> 01:29:27 [SPEAKER_00]: binged in like a week and I'm loving it.
01:29:27 --> 01:29:28 [SPEAKER_00]: The pit is awesome.
01:29:28 --> 01:29:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Go check out the sorry, but that's like the doctor one or whatever right it is no while wild something like that.
01:29:38 --> 01:29:41 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't it's I know it's no as something.
01:29:41 --> 01:29:47 [SPEAKER_01]: No Yeah, you want to know my variance like I used to watch that show
01:29:47 --> 01:29:49 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but it's a great show.
01:29:49 --> 01:29:52 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not typically a medical drama fan.
01:29:52 --> 01:29:57 [SPEAKER_00]: I, when I say not typically, I have hated every other medical show that I've tried to watch.
01:29:57 --> 01:29:58 [SPEAKER_00]: It just doesn't connect with me.
01:29:58 --> 01:30:01 [SPEAKER_00]: But this one is truly insane.
01:30:02 --> 01:30:02 [SPEAKER_00]: It's so good.
01:30:02 --> 01:30:05 [SPEAKER_00]: I have recommended it to everyone who will listen.
01:30:06 --> 01:30:06 [SPEAKER_00]: You're telling me.
01:30:07 --> 01:30:10 [SPEAKER_01]: You never, you've never watched Grey's Anatomy.
01:30:11 --> 01:30:17 [SPEAKER_00]: I've watched like two episodes of Grey's Anatomy
01:30:17 --> 01:30:25 [SPEAKER_00]: It's it's it's the one piece of medical drama It really is there's 500 seasons.
01:30:26 --> 01:30:34 [SPEAKER_00]: I would say most medical shows fall into the category of like medslaw And this is not that this is not medslaw.
01:30:34 --> 01:30:35 [SPEAKER_00]: It's well written.
01:30:36 --> 01:30:36 [SPEAKER_00]: It's crazy.
01:30:37 --> 01:30:39 [SPEAKER_00]: It's from what I've heard
01:30:39 --> 01:30:46 [SPEAKER_00]: I haven't spoken to any real doctors, but from what I've seen online, it's pretty accurate as well in a lot of regards.
01:30:46 --> 01:30:49 [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, go check out their coverage of that show.
01:30:50 --> 01:31:03 [SPEAKER_00]: Also in the network, or some pretty excellent podcasts, like wool shift dust, the Star Wars can in timeline podcasts, rings and rituals, properly Howard movie review, the severance podcast, and never mind the music.
01:31:04 --> 01:31:09 [SPEAKER_00]: links to all of these excellent podcasts and info on how to get a hold of us will be in the show notes.
01:31:09 --> 01:31:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Actually, I have one more to add to that list, not officially in the network yet, but I was listening to the Christmas special coverage from the warhounds that we were a part of.
01:31:21 --> 01:31:26 [SPEAKER_00]: And joining the network is going to be an awesome podcast called Dungeons and Do Rags.
01:31:27 --> 01:31:28 [SPEAKER_00]: Those guys are awesome.
01:31:29 --> 01:31:30 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that it is officially yet.
01:31:30 --> 01:31:34 [SPEAKER_00]: I think they're still working out some of the details of how they're going to be joining the network.
01:31:34 --> 01:31:36 [SPEAKER_00]: But in any case, really awesome.
01:31:36 --> 01:31:39 [SPEAKER_00]: Go and listen to the folks over on Dungeons and Do Rags.
01:31:40 --> 01:31:42 [SPEAKER_00]: And thank you for listening.
01:31:42 --> 01:31:43 [SPEAKER_00]: We will be back next week.
01:31:43 --> 01:31:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Don't forget to bring your power fist to fight some difficult laws.
01:31:47 --> 01:31:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.