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00:17 --> 00:20 [SPEAKER_00]: Hello and welcome back to Radioactive Ramblings.
00:20 --> 00:45 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm Aaron and I'm Richard and I'm Chase and today we're going to be covering the first three episodes of Invincible's fourth season on Amazon Prime TV Yeah, and I just want to let you all know how to get in contact with us The first is going to be our email radioactive at the lowhons.com We have a channel set up for Radioactive Ramblings in the lower-hons discord server
00:45 --> 00:50 [SPEAKER_02]: There's also the contact form, or you could leave us a voicemail at thelowerhounds.com.
00:51 --> 01:00 [SPEAKER_02]: And considering it's a follow on BlueSky at Radioactive 141, we'd also appreciate a rating on Apple podcasts or Spotify or wherever else you listen to us.
01:01 --> 01:02 [SPEAKER_02]: It helps other people find us.
01:03 --> 01:09 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so definitely jump in on that conversation, especially the Discord is a great place to get involved.
01:09 --> 01:20 [SPEAKER_00]: There's a dedicated chat for invincible, there's going to be dedicated chats for the upcoming season of the boys, which we are going to be covering, which speaking of,
01:20 --> 01:25 [SPEAKER_00]: We have some plans which involve doing invincible and the boys every other week.
01:25 --> 01:32 [SPEAKER_00]: So as soon as those two are happening at the same time, it'll be covering two episodes at a time alternating week.
01:32 --> 01:35 [SPEAKER_00]: So we've got a lot of content on the way.
01:35 --> 01:38 [SPEAKER_00]: So make sure you stay tuned without further ado.
01:38 --> 01:40 [SPEAKER_00]: How are you doing Chase?
01:40 --> 01:41 [SPEAKER_00]: Welcome back.
01:41 --> 01:43 [SPEAKER_04]: Dude, I am good.
01:43 --> 01:48 [SPEAKER_04]: I guess things are good and bad, but you know, mostly good, mostly good.
01:48 --> 01:50 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm happy to be back.
01:50 --> 01:53 [SPEAKER_04]: I hope the listeners missed me, you know?
01:55 --> 02:00 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, we got over 3 emails asking what your problem is and why you're not here.
02:00 --> 02:01 [SPEAKER_04]: 3?
02:01 --> 02:03 [SPEAKER_04]: That's fucking good.
02:03 --> 02:03 [SPEAKER_00]: 3.
02:03 --> 02:04 [SPEAKER_00]: It was insane.
02:05 --> 02:07 [SPEAKER_00]: It's the most emails we've ever gotten about anything.
02:07 --> 02:10 [SPEAKER_00]: No, by at least a dozen.
02:11 --> 02:13 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, buy a margin of one.
02:14 --> 02:17 [SPEAKER_00]: But exactly Richard, how are you doing today?
02:17 --> 02:18 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm doing pretty good, you know?
02:19 --> 02:22 [SPEAKER_02]: I've been playing loads and loads of cyberpunk and...
02:22 --> 02:23 [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, that's it.
02:24 --> 02:24 [SPEAKER_02]: How about you?
02:24 --> 02:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I've been playing some city skylines too, because it was on sale.
02:30 --> 02:40 [SPEAKER_00]: So I've been catching up on that a little bit and also rereading the first Mistborn novel, which I think we can talk about this at this point that Richard.
02:41 --> 02:41 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, you.
02:41 --> 02:45 [SPEAKER_02]: I saw John put something in one of the chats.
02:45 --> 02:46 [SPEAKER_02]: So like,
02:46 --> 02:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, everybody's well.
02:47 --> 02:48 [SPEAKER_00]: We might as well.
02:48 --> 03:00 [SPEAKER_00]: In June, stay tuned because that is when a brand new podcast with me, Richard, and John from The War Hounds is going to be dropping covering the Cosmere books.
03:00 --> 03:03 [SPEAKER_00]: So that's another little bit of content to look forward to.
03:03 --> 03:05 [SPEAKER_00]: It'll be a separate feed and everything.
03:05 --> 03:13 [SPEAKER_00]: So as we get closer to that, you'll hear a lot more about that on our feed and on the
03:13 --> 03:26 [SPEAKER_02]: on our new Cosmere show we are excited to start that we've already you know we've already done some stuff behind the scenes but we just want to kind of get ahead of it before we start releasing stuff for it.
03:26 --> 03:33 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we'll have a pretty good like back catalog to release every week, which is a good thing because these books are massive.
03:33 --> 03:43 [SPEAKER_00]: But we should get into the first three episodes of Inventible because these were some pretty incredible reintroductions back into the series.
03:43 --> 03:44 [SPEAKER_00]: I thought they were pretty good.
03:44 --> 03:46 [SPEAKER_00]: How did you guys feel overall vibe check?
03:46 --> 03:54 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I loved it, you know, I think that these three episodes had a really strong start start for the season.
03:54 --> 04:01 [SPEAKER_04]: And I have something I want to talk about later after we go over the stuff a little bit more.
04:01 --> 04:05 [SPEAKER_04]: I sent you a tick talk about it earlier today, and
04:05 --> 04:11 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so now I do know what you're going to bring up now, so I'm excited and I agree with that point.
04:12 --> 04:17 [SPEAKER_00]: So I guess Richard, how are you feeling and then we'll go straight into the spoiler stuff?
04:17 --> 04:18 [SPEAKER_02]: I felt pretty good.
04:18 --> 04:26 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, before we do get anything into anything story based, I do want to talk about at the start of the season, which they've been doing the last couple of seasons.
04:27 --> 04:31 [SPEAKER_02]: I like getting the montage with, you know, they always flex a bang around us.
04:33 --> 04:39 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't remember what the song was, so maybe I shouldn't say banger, but it was really fitting, probably.
04:40 --> 04:44 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think the music has always been a really strong part of this.
04:44 --> 04:56 [SPEAKER_00]: All right, and so I think that is going to be our official spoiler warning for the first three episodes of Season 4, anything from the past three seasons is fair game as well.
04:56 --> 05:05 [SPEAKER_00]: Of course, I would not expect anyone to be listening in or watching the fourth season without watching the past three, so should not be a problem.
05:05 --> 05:11 [SPEAKER_00]: I would also like to say that we're going to give spoilers for whenever we talk about comic stuff.
05:11 --> 05:22 [SPEAKER_04]: It won't be super often because Chase is the only one of us who has actually read the comics, but if we can do a little bit, I think Richard knows like some more overarching stuff, not like my new details.
05:23 --> 05:25 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but I know overarching.
05:26 --> 05:31 [SPEAKER_02]: And then there's one thing in this first three episodes that I'm going to mention, but we
05:32 --> 05:33 [SPEAKER_02]: we'll get to that.
05:33 --> 06:01 [SPEAKER_04]: But for most of the comic spoilers that I'm going to give, they're going to be concurrent, like with the episode I'm talking about, like if I do give a comic spoiler, that is like about something that happens in the future of the series, I will give
06:01 --> 06:08 [SPEAKER_00]: And that brings us into the first story arc that I think we should talk about which is our main character invincible.
06:08 --> 06:14 [SPEAKER_00]: Mark is in a pretty dark place in these three episodes and we kind of left him off that way last season.
06:14 --> 06:18 [SPEAKER_00]: He's got a lot of struggles with murder.
06:18 --> 06:20 [SPEAKER_00]: Not even murder.
06:20 --> 06:30 [SPEAKER_00]: I would say he's struggles with killing a lot in this season, but Chase, what did you think about Mark's turn
06:31 --> 06:32 [SPEAKER_04]: Um, okay.
06:32 --> 06:42 [SPEAKER_04]: Um, to everyone listening at home, I do want to say that we did try and film the podcast earlier, but my internet was like really crappy.
06:42 --> 06:45 [SPEAKER_04]: So we like add to where we're trying again today.
06:45 --> 06:57 [SPEAKER_04]: So now that that brings context to what I'm about to say, now that I've had time to like really rethink about what we're talking about last time, um,
06:57 --> 07:07 [SPEAKER_04]: I kind of like think that Mark and Eve will get to Eve later, but have the weakest writing for these three episodes.
07:07 --> 07:24 [SPEAKER_04]: Um, and I think because like, I don't know, I at first, I was like, I tried to chalk it up all to just like mark PTSD like, oh, all the people that I could have saved if I just like was more decisive in my actions.
07:24 --> 07:34 [SPEAKER_04]: And like, there is definitely an element to that and you, you definitely have to be like, if you're in his shoes, you probably feel like a certain similar way.
07:34 --> 07:42 [SPEAKER_04]: But at the same time, I do think that, like, with dinosaurs, he definitely took it a little too, like, not even a little, a lot too far.
07:42 --> 07:46 [SPEAKER_04]: Like, he already had dude apprehended.
07:46 --> 07:49 [SPEAKER_04]: And it's not like, he took him out pretty handily.
07:49 --> 07:55 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think there was a danger that he was going to like break out and cause, like, a mass killing again or whatever.
07:55 --> 07:56 [SPEAKER_04]: You know, it did early.
07:56 --> 08:03 [SPEAKER_04]: That's not how it's portrayed in the show in my opinion.
08:03 --> 08:13 [SPEAKER_02]: Once the dude transformed, all he should have had to say was like, I'm not in control when I transform and Mark should have, like season one mark would have let go of him, no problem.
08:13 --> 08:21 [SPEAKER_04]: Well, it's not even like let go, like it's fine if he wants to keep him in the chokehold, but he doesn't have to like, because like it is true.
08:21 --> 08:27 [SPEAKER_04]: He could just transform into dangerous dinosaur that can like one tap the average person, uh, true.
08:28 --> 08:28 [SPEAKER_04]: But like,
08:29 --> 08:33 [SPEAKER_04]: Trying to go farther than that is just like, what do we do it?
08:33 --> 08:37 [SPEAKER_04]: Like he's essentially incapacitated at this point.
08:37 --> 08:39 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, Marky, Mark, what are we doing, Boe?
08:40 --> 08:44 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I do agree with Mark's decision with Russ.
08:44 --> 08:45 [SPEAKER_04]: I know that like,
08:46 --> 08:53 [SPEAKER_04]: it's portrayed in a way that it's like, we really don't know if the shield would have held or not, but it's like, exactly.
08:53 --> 09:04 [SPEAKER_04]: If you didn't know if the shield was gonna hold or not, and like, if that breaks, like humans are like really actually like at threat of them being wiped out, I think he made the right decision, you know?
09:04 --> 09:04 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
09:04 --> 09:10 [SPEAKER_02]: And who's to say, even if the shield did hold up, one of the heroes that was there could have gotten infected by a sequit.
09:10 --> 09:11 [SPEAKER_02]: There's like,
09:11 --> 09:18 [SPEAKER_02]: or other possibilities if this shield held up that would still lead to humanity going by by.
09:18 --> 09:22 [SPEAKER_00]: I was just happy to see Mark finally and the SecWids.
09:22 --> 09:29 [SPEAKER_00]: If I have to see this C plot line continued into another season of events of all, I'm gonna scream.
09:29 --> 09:33 [SPEAKER_04]: No, yeah, the SecWids definitely are a weak point for the show.
09:33 --> 09:36 [SPEAKER_04]: I can't lie or not to show just the series in general.
09:36 --> 09:43 [SPEAKER_04]: But to be fair, like with all longstanding series, there do have to be C plotwiders.
09:43 --> 09:44 [SPEAKER_04]: It is like,
09:45 --> 10:02 [SPEAKER_04]: the way that they're adapting it though with like the eight episodes seasons, it does feel like they could just cut a lot of the C plot lines and just stay with the main story and give us more of that instead of dedicating coal episodes to ship that no one gives a fuck about.
10:02 --> 10:15 [SPEAKER_00]: Especially because there's some C plots that are so interesting like the stuff happening with Titan and Mr. Liu and Robot Face.
10:15 --> 10:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Mushy that.
10:17 --> 10:18 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you, machine head.
10:18 --> 10:28 [SPEAKER_04]: Well, like if that's a small insight into like Nolan's like rediscovering the stuff that is deadly or like can harm the Ultra Mights.
10:28 --> 10:43 [SPEAKER_04]: Even when I was reading the comics, I was like, wow, like I love that, like this stuff is cool aside from progressing Nolan's character arc and that like just the like seeing other planets and other aliens is so cool rather than just like
10:43 --> 10:48 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, let's go back to the second ones who have no character whatsoever, no story whatsoever.
10:48 --> 10:54 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and also, it makes the Viltramite Empire kind of more like...
10:55 --> 11:22 [SPEAKER_02]: fleshes it out more because they know that they're not immortal they're not invincible whatever immortal mentioned he's so peak um but you know it adds to a thing that like they're not just strong they're also pretty tactical they know that they have to deal with these threats in horrible ways obviously I mean freezing the ragnars entire planet and the other two planets in the system was
11:22 --> 11:23 [SPEAKER_02]: obviously messed up.
11:25 --> 11:30 [SPEAKER_02]: Space Racer was just under a pile of rocks for a hundred years, but just horrible.
11:30 --> 11:38 [SPEAKER_02]: There's all sorts of, it just adds a more threatening side to them, I guess, on top of the universal nomination thing.
11:39 --> 11:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and speaking of that whole plot line with Space Racer,
11:48 --> 11:58 [SPEAKER_00]: how it threw him off guard that Nolan was actually apologizing, like this guy has fought the Viltramites, probably for more of his life than not.
11:59 --> 12:06 [SPEAKER_00]: And you have this committer of genocides, destroyer of worlds coming up to you and saying,
12:06 --> 12:07 [SPEAKER_00]: My bad.
12:07 --> 12:09 [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't mean it.
12:09 --> 12:10 [SPEAKER_00]: It was, it was another me.
12:11 --> 12:12 [SPEAKER_00]: It was me at another time.
12:13 --> 12:21 [SPEAKER_00]: And that just throws him off so much with, yeah, that's exactly the reaction that I would have and most people would have is, you're sorry.
12:21 --> 12:25 [SPEAKER_00]: Like I guess that's, well, you're going to better do not.
12:26 --> 12:31 [SPEAKER_04]: Nolan is basically
12:31 --> 12:38 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, like of quite like billions upon billions of Viltramites.
12:39 --> 12:45 [SPEAKER_04]: He's the second one to ever defect from the Viltramite like the Viltramite war path.
12:46 --> 12:48 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and he's still got one foot in the cause.
12:49 --> 12:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's still exactly.
12:50 --> 12:56 [SPEAKER_00]: He's kind of grappling with how he's supposed to do all of this.
12:56 --> 12:59 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think that the main thing that's tripping him up now
12:59 --> 13:03 [SPEAKER_00]: is the fact that he grew up with all of this propaganda about the betrayer.
13:03 --> 13:13 [SPEAKER_00]: And so I think that he's trying to deprogram himself and he's making slower progress than I think the universe needs from him.
13:14 --> 13:21 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but sometimes a hypocrite is just a man in the process of changing or or something, right?
13:21 --> 13:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Or something.
13:21 --> 13:22 [SPEAKER_00]: This is true.
13:23 --> 13:29 [SPEAKER_00]: I also really enjoyed the Donald defended Invincible's actions during the whole Second Invasion.
13:29 --> 13:31 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that he understood what was happening.
13:32 --> 13:37 [SPEAKER_00]: I think Cecil understands it too, but he does have to be really cautious of Mark.
13:37 --> 13:44 [SPEAKER_04]: Because Donald is just always standing on business.
13:44 --> 13:49 [SPEAKER_02]: Every one of these hour-goat donals, they're both goats.
13:49 --> 13:52 [SPEAKER_02]: I think we just have a rule about people whose name starts with a D at this point.
13:53 --> 13:56 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to think of a bad, invincible.
13:57 --> 14:05 [SPEAKER_02]: And there's none, and there's none, because Donald, Debbie, other characters are scared to have a name starting with D.
14:05 --> 14:06 [SPEAKER_04]: enough.
14:07 --> 14:08 [SPEAKER_04]: Enough, bro.
14:08 --> 14:10 [SPEAKER_04]: Let's talk a little bit about it.
14:10 --> 14:10 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not sure.
14:10 --> 14:12 [SPEAKER_02]: King is like a filler arc, bro.
14:13 --> 14:13 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, fuck you.
14:14 --> 14:20 [SPEAKER_02]: Before we go have me now, Cecil's reaction to him killing Ross.
14:20 --> 14:22 [SPEAKER_02]: We should maybe touch on that.
14:22 --> 14:23 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, what did you think about that?
14:24 --> 14:27 [SPEAKER_00]: That was a pretty big moment in these three episodes.
14:27 --> 14:33 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I really want Cecil and Mark to figure their shit out at some point soon.
14:33 --> 14:47 [SPEAKER_02]: And Mark is being more open to like taking orders from Cecil and such here and there, but I really, like they got a lucky hand if they wanted to destroy the biggest, well, I guess not biggest anymore, but big evil space empire.
14:47 --> 14:53 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think either of them grasps at this moment what is to come.
14:53 --> 15:05 [SPEAKER_04]: Like they don't understand that the Viltramites are like really coming to do them in, you know, or like trying to, like, cause Cecil is like, oh shit, there's more of these guys, right?
15:05 --> 15:11 [SPEAKER_04]: He doesn't know, like, what's going on besides that.
15:11 --> 15:23 [SPEAKER_04]: Mark doesn't either really like I think at this point, Mark is like like he had that fight right with his dad and the other Viltrimites on I forgot the name of the planet.
15:23 --> 15:27 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, Thaxa and like he's like, oh, this is this is cooked.
15:28 --> 15:37 [SPEAKER_04]: He doesn't even know the half of it, you know, like he's like, I just got to get stronger so I can like fight off conquest again or whatever.
15:37 --> 15:41 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, like I have a few things about that, too.
15:42 --> 15:42 [SPEAKER_04]: Conquest.
15:43 --> 15:49 [SPEAKER_04]: Well, like he doesn't know about what I mean is like he's like he's like that's probably his bar right now.
15:49 --> 15:54 [SPEAKER_04]: It's like the strongest being that he's witnessed at this point.
15:55 --> 15:57 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was more talking about though.
15:57 --> 16:05 [SPEAKER_02]: I hope this season, like I'm sure we'll see it that Mark finds out conquestes live and then he and Cecil
16:05 --> 16:14 [SPEAKER_02]: make this their final arguments that they can finally realize that they need to band together if they're going to take on the rest of the virtual night empire.
16:14 --> 16:19 [SPEAKER_04]: Rho, you think Cecil is telling Mark Conquest's alive?
16:19 --> 16:20 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's not happening.
16:20 --> 16:21 [SPEAKER_00]: It's got to happen.
16:22 --> 16:25 [SPEAKER_00]: Mark is going to find out Cecil is not going to give that information freely.
16:26 --> 16:35 [SPEAKER_04]: I thought they were gonna change that part of the show because in the comic Cecil is way more incompetent than he is in the show.
16:35 --> 16:35 [SPEAKER_00]: Really?
16:35 --> 16:38 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm glad he's not in the show.
16:38 --> 16:42 [SPEAKER_04]: In the show, he's like, with the resources he has, you know?
16:42 --> 16:49 [SPEAKER_04]: And like the power level of the people in his tool belt he has, like, I think he does a quite a good job, not gonna lie.
16:49 --> 16:53 [SPEAKER_04]: But in the comics, he just be like blundering.
16:53 --> 16:54 [SPEAKER_00]: I like that change.
16:55 --> 17:01 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that it's really satisfying to see people be good at their job in TV and movies sometimes.
17:01 --> 17:02 [SPEAKER_00]: Not everyone.
17:02 --> 17:15 [SPEAKER_00]: Some people need to be a little bit bad at their job for the story, but there's just something about seeing someone like Cecil be so organized that makes it so much more enjoyable.
17:15 --> 17:19 [SPEAKER_00]: I would not care about Cecil whatsoever if he was bad at what he does.
17:20 --> 17:21 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
17:21 --> 17:25 [SPEAKER_02]: Also, like, we all have that one coworker that just sucks.
17:27 --> 17:32 [SPEAKER_02]: So it's nice to see a play, to see like that not happen, I guess.
17:32 --> 17:35 [SPEAKER_00]: Cecil's co-worker that sucks is deacent Claire.
17:36 --> 17:38 [SPEAKER_02]: Shit, that's the bad guy.
17:38 --> 17:40 [SPEAKER_02]: That's the bad guy.
17:40 --> 17:41 [SPEAKER_04]: The deacent.
17:41 --> 17:44 [SPEAKER_04]: Like words smell like straight booty, bro, I bet.
17:45 --> 17:48 [SPEAKER_00]: So, let's talk a little bit about Adam Eave.
17:48 --> 17:54 [SPEAKER_00]: I want to start off with this family dinner, Richard, would you have taken an extra helping of green beans?
17:54 --> 17:58 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god, do Betsy's green beans if we're looking so good.
17:58 --> 18:05 [SPEAKER_02]: I keep seeing the, you know, it's like the boys' memes when that was coming out with a party in the USA playing, and it's Betsy's green beans.
18:06 --> 18:10 [SPEAKER_02]: Now, instead of butcher's shirt and mothers' milkshirt,
18:11 --> 18:13 [SPEAKER_00]: I feel really bad for Betsy.
18:13 --> 18:24 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that she says as much in the episode, but she was like, someday, you're going to settle for someone that you don't like that much, and it'll all be okay.
18:24 --> 18:25 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's what your life should be.
18:26 --> 18:27 [SPEAKER_00]: And...
18:27 --> 18:29 [SPEAKER_00]: I just feel bad for her.
18:29 --> 18:31 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, what a horrible outlook on life.
18:32 --> 18:32 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
18:33 --> 18:36 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, fill your life with joy and whimsy, perhaps.
18:37 --> 18:43 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, that's kind of probably what your mental state is like after being married to that piece of shit for that.
18:43 --> 18:43 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh my god, I know.
18:43 --> 18:45 [SPEAKER_04]: He's, he's horrible.
18:45 --> 18:51 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's, let's talk about Mr. Mr. Wilkins.
18:52 --> 18:53 [SPEAKER_02]: I forgot their last name for a minute.
18:54 --> 18:55 [SPEAKER_00]: Mr. Adam Eve.
18:55 --> 18:59 [SPEAKER_02]: Don't call him that, I don't call him that bro.
18:59 --> 19:10 [SPEAKER_02]: So his talk with Mark was pretty bad, you know, obviously every scene with him is really bad, but the scene in the comics is so much worse.
19:11 --> 19:15 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know as too much, but like it's horrifying, Chase, what you got.
19:16 --> 19:33 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, in the comics he just says some actually deplorable crap like he's talking about how like you can tell if a woman is a virgin or not and like how they're less desirable if they're not over it's just disgusting.
19:33 --> 19:34 [SPEAKER_04]: It's really awful.
19:34 --> 19:37 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm actually very glad that it didn't include it.
19:38 --> 19:42 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think it really like his character is already like.
19:43 --> 19:47 [SPEAKER_04]: Unlikable in every way that it's like it's not really adding anything to this story.
19:47 --> 20:04 [SPEAKER_02]: It's just like, oh, he's even more of a asshole Yeah, it just becomes like How much can we exaggerate how horrible this guy is and how much he should be put down like Yeah, I mean At the same time though, I
20:05 --> 20:34 [SPEAKER_04]: It's like kind of weird though because like they changed his dialogue to be like something that's like kind of like weight-lo-key facts They're not like the whole thing, you know, but like she's my daughter and like I care about her So like when she's in danger, I'm worried and she's in danger more often than now that she's like involved with you That part of the message is true and yeah, but it's definitely your right message wrong message You know because yeah, like as a parent like
20:34 --> 20:53 [SPEAKER_02]: Do you really care, do you really care though because like all your other actions demonstrate you don't give a flying fuck so I mean yeah I wonder if maybe they're gonna change his cuz I don't know anything about like what happens with his character further This is the the last panel chronologically I've seen of him
20:53 --> 20:59 [SPEAKER_02]: But I wonder if maybe they're going to try and make him a better, like, come out better later on.
20:59 --> 21:05 [SPEAKER_04]: I guess, like, now that they've removed that dialogue, I guess, like, it is possible for him to have redemption.
21:05 --> 21:11 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but in the comics after that, it's like, bro, it's curtains for you.
21:11 --> 21:13 [SPEAKER_04]: Saying that about your daughter, bro.
21:13 --> 21:25 [SPEAKER_04]: The dad he's getting the the rush treatment just don't I guess thought it was weird though And the comics do cuz like Marcus is letting that shit fly when he's yeah And it's just like bro.
21:25 --> 21:37 [SPEAKER_04]: That's your girlfriend like I get I get that's her dad But like you're also adult like you and you are adults living set like she's not dependent you can
21:37 --> 21:52 [SPEAKER_04]: you can stand up for her and Mark why you gotta go all trigger happy i'm some random astronaut and you can't kill his dude for being like okay okay that's a little i don't know no it's horrible i know i don't know if we need a red missed him bro but like
21:57 --> 21:58 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
21:58 --> 22:02 [SPEAKER_00]: I do want to talk about Mark and his whole thing.
22:02 --> 22:19 [SPEAKER_00]: I meant to bring this up earlier, but I don't quite know what the show is trying to say about him with this, because every time he has one of his dark moments where he almost kills someone, this guy is essentially crying about having, just understandable.
22:19 --> 22:21 [SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't want to kill innocent people.
22:22 --> 22:24 [SPEAKER_00]: He should
22:26 --> 22:56 [SPEAKER_00]: No, yeah, but the thing that doesn't quite make sense is that he's making these decisions to almost kill people in the heat of the moment and like being afraid about it or upset about it and part of me wonders, are they trying to do something with like it's his vulture might DNA that's pushing him towards this and he's trying to fight against his nature or is he just in a
22:56 --> 23:03 [SPEAKER_00]: Do you want me to clarify it from you don't have to give me the the comics answer, but I just think that that's like an interesting thing.
23:04 --> 23:07 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's something an interesting talk and point for sure.
23:07 --> 23:14 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I'm going to just say something really quick and it's not it's not like a spoiler.
23:14 --> 23:17 [SPEAKER_04]: It's just like I'm going to say something really quick.
23:17 --> 23:21 [SPEAKER_04]: The aggression is not built into built from my DNA.
23:22 --> 23:23 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
23:23 --> 23:23 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
23:23 --> 23:24 [SPEAKER_04]: It's just a writing choice.
23:25 --> 23:25 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
23:25 --> 23:26 [SPEAKER_00]: That's good to know.
23:27 --> 23:27 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
23:29 --> 23:29 [SPEAKER_00]: All right.
23:29 --> 23:36 [SPEAKER_00]: Now that we're done with my Mark side tangent, Eve is losing her powers.
23:37 --> 23:38 [SPEAKER_00]: That's a pretty big deal.
23:38 --> 23:40 [SPEAKER_00]: She's got this whole atomic sludge thing going on.
23:41 --> 23:45 [SPEAKER_00]: She tries to get help from Rudy before he gets plucked into another dimension.
23:45 --> 23:46 [SPEAKER_00]: First of all, fuck Rudy.
23:47 --> 23:48 [SPEAKER_00]: Second of all,
23:48 --> 23:50 [SPEAKER_02]: Dude, his name's Rex.
23:50 --> 23:51 [SPEAKER_02]: He stole his homeboy's name.
23:51 --> 23:53 [SPEAKER_02]: He got to put some respect on that.
23:53 --> 23:59 [SPEAKER_00]: There's nothing that could make me respect Rudy or Rex or whatever he would ever rob out his calling.
23:59 --> 24:03 [SPEAKER_02]: It's just always on some straight weirdo shit, right?
24:04 --> 24:07 [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like he's gonna be on some even worse weirdo shit when they come back.
24:08 --> 24:09 [SPEAKER_02]: He's gonna be older.
24:10 --> 24:11 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
24:11 --> 24:12 [SPEAKER_04]: That wouldn't be weird, oh shit.
24:12 --> 24:15 [SPEAKER_04]: That would be like, oh, that's actually appropriate.
24:15 --> 24:17 [SPEAKER_04]: No action.
24:17 --> 24:19 [SPEAKER_04]: You're an adult, you're an adult body.
24:19 --> 24:24 [SPEAKER_04]: Now, instead of like being an adult, being like, what if I put myself in a kid body, bro?
24:24 --> 24:24 [SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no.
24:25 --> 24:29 [SPEAKER_02]: That part of it, him being like an adult, I'm assuming, is going to be great.
24:30 --> 24:32 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm saying he's going to be on some weird shit regardless, though.
24:32 --> 24:33 [SPEAKER_02]: It's what he does.
24:33 --> 24:37 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I mean, yeah, he's always on some weird shit.
24:37 --> 24:45 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it really healed something inside of me to see Cecil shut down his attempt to rule the Guardians, like, in a half a second.
24:46 --> 24:46 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
24:47 --> 24:50 [SPEAKER_02]: I like, um, Britt, this is name, right?
24:51 --> 24:52 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's pretty cool.
24:52 --> 25:01 [SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't really, he doesn't really have anything going for him outside of being on the Guardians, like, he's not a real character.
25:01 --> 25:04 [SPEAKER_00]: He's just kind of there to be a prop.
25:04 --> 25:08 [SPEAKER_00]: But I think he's a cool guy, Jonathan Banks is of course a badass.
25:08 --> 25:12 [SPEAKER_02]: I just wanted him to call someone Walter, you know?
25:12 --> 25:12 [SPEAKER_02]: That's it.
25:12 --> 25:13 [SPEAKER_02]: That's what I want from him.
25:14 --> 25:14 [SPEAKER_00]: It's funny.
25:14 --> 25:21 [SPEAKER_00]: This is like the first thing I've seen him in, or heard him in, outside of Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul.
25:22 --> 25:22 [SPEAKER_02]: Really?
25:22 --> 25:26 [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like he's been in stuff.
25:26 --> 25:27 [SPEAKER_02]: He's in the mood.
25:27 --> 25:28 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think of it, Ken.
25:28 --> 25:29 [SPEAKER_02]: He's been moving his in shows.
25:29 --> 25:32 [SPEAKER_02]: It's just like, I feel like he's one of those characters.
25:32 --> 25:35 [SPEAKER_02]: He's like, usually kind of more of a side character.
25:35 --> 25:36 [SPEAKER_04]: I think Britain's cool.
25:36 --> 25:42 [SPEAKER_04]: When all but I don't like the like whole like military, like you do what you're told and you don't.
25:43 --> 25:45 [SPEAKER_04]: There's no room for improvisation.
25:45 --> 25:46 [SPEAKER_04]: Like what are we talking about?
25:46 --> 25:47 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
25:47 --> 25:50 [SPEAKER_02]: Just following orders has never been a good mindset.
25:50 --> 25:51 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
25:51 --> 25:51 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
25:51 --> 25:52 [SPEAKER_00]: Historically.
25:53 --> 26:08 [SPEAKER_00]: I will give him a little bit of credit because during the Flaxon invasion, which Flaxa thoraxa, so many axes, but during the whole like Flaxa Flaxon invasion, Brit did
26:08 --> 26:12 [SPEAKER_00]: go and deviate from Cecil's orders to do what he thought was the right thing.
26:12 --> 26:14 [SPEAKER_00]: So I got to give him a little bit of credit there.
26:14 --> 26:20 [SPEAKER_04]: He's not a complete, like, close for the not-for-me mentality, though.
26:20 --> 26:22 [SPEAKER_04]: Like, what kind of bullshit is that?
26:22 --> 26:30 [SPEAKER_04]: Like, bro's chewing Rudy out for legit, like, eliminating the threat and not getting himself cooked.
26:30 --> 26:43 [SPEAKER_04]: and then not to be a Rudy sympathizer, but then like the next mission he's like, now fuck, fuck, listening to my superior's bro, like, what kind of behavior is that?
26:44 --> 26:47 [SPEAKER_02]: It's got a good situational awareness sometimes.
26:47 --> 26:55 [SPEAKER_02]: Or you could take it as you could take it as he's taking a page out of Rudy's book after Rudy did that and it worked.
26:55 --> 26:56 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a great point.
26:56 --> 26:58 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, see someone agrees with me.
26:58 --> 26:58 [SPEAKER_02]: Thank God.
26:58 --> 27:10 [SPEAKER_00]: I do want to go back to the Eve losing her powers thing because yeah, it seems like they're implying that her being pregnant is like probably the cause behind it.
27:10 --> 27:12 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why else they would have.
27:12 --> 27:14 [SPEAKER_00]: Why do you think she's pregnant?
27:14 --> 27:18 [SPEAKER_00]: She has a positive pregnancy test at the end of episode three.
27:18 --> 27:19 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
27:19 --> 27:19 [SPEAKER_04]: Wait, really?
27:19 --> 27:20 [SPEAKER_04]: I didn't see that.
27:20 --> 27:21 [SPEAKER_00]: It was like the post.
27:21 --> 27:22 [SPEAKER_04]: I thought they didn't show it.
27:22 --> 27:24 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I didn't want to spoil anything.
27:25 --> 27:27 [SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, they showed it at the very end.
27:27 --> 27:28 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, my bad, my bad.
27:28 --> 27:31 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so she's pregnant.
27:31 --> 27:32 [SPEAKER_00]: Her powers aren't working.
27:32 --> 27:35 [SPEAKER_00]: Those two things seem like they're probably connected.
27:35 --> 27:36 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
27:36 --> 27:37 [SPEAKER_00]: It could be a red herring.
27:37 --> 27:40 [SPEAKER_00]: But I, that's the theory I'm sticking to.
27:40 --> 27:42 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm with Aaron on this one.
27:42 --> 27:47 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think there's no other reason other than like maybe her mental state
27:48 --> 27:54 [SPEAKER_02]: What with with what Mark's going through and her parents, I guess, but she'd been dealing with that.
27:54 --> 27:59 [SPEAKER_04]: So I kind of like, we, sorry, this is a little bit of a tangent, not really directly connected.
27:59 --> 28:05 [SPEAKER_04]: I think we talked about this a little bit last season when we were like, why doesn't Eve use her powers more creatively?
28:05 --> 28:18 [SPEAKER_04]: And because it was like the writer was like, oh, yeah, I made her powers too good and I'm not creative enough to like incorporate them properly into this story.
28:18 --> 28:25 [SPEAKER_04]: And like I always kind of just thought of like this moment as like a cop out him to like not have to do her powers.
28:27 --> 28:29 [SPEAKER_00]: He gets a little break, a little vacation for me.
28:29 --> 28:31 [SPEAKER_04]: Because it's like it's like low heat.
28:31 --> 28:44 [SPEAKER_04]: If I was right here, it'd be so hard to like model a villain that just doesn't lose to the person you can create like any particle at will, you know, like give him to anything basically.
28:44 --> 28:51 [SPEAKER_02]: I would rather just retconn it and be like, oh, she can't create anything at will.
28:51 --> 29:02 [SPEAKER_04]: She has to, well, like, he already did, like out of nowhere in the, in the series, be like, oh, yeah, she has that mental block that makes it so she can't do anything at will.
29:03 --> 29:07 [SPEAKER_00]: The mental block, that's, that is a big cop out right?
29:07 --> 29:10 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, right, like, come on, dude.
29:11 --> 29:13 [SPEAKER_02]: Even if you were just like,
29:13 --> 29:20 [SPEAKER_02]: some, there was a device implanted into her that no one could pick up for something until later in the series.
29:20 --> 29:22 [SPEAKER_02]: That would be fine.
29:22 --> 29:24 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
29:24 --> 29:32 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that would have been better at least in my opinion than, oh wait, nah, my mental block is making it so I can't do this.
29:32 --> 29:42 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, even if she doesn't know how to make a second earth with her powers, she does know how to make some money off of invincible ink, which seems to be doing pretty well.
29:42 --> 29:48 [SPEAKER_04]: I also thought of this just like a weird point in the series because it was like, what do you mean you're donating it all?
29:48 --> 29:50 [SPEAKER_04]: Don't you have your own place?
29:50 --> 29:51 [SPEAKER_04]: How are you paying for that?
29:52 --> 29:58 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I thought the whole point of them having invincible ink was to make money for an apartment or a house.
29:59 --> 30:03 [SPEAKER_04]: And it's like doing good deeds for money is, at least in my opinion, not bad.
30:03 --> 30:08 [SPEAKER_04]: Like people do bad things for money all the time, bro, like...
30:08 --> 30:14 [SPEAKER_04]: going in like stopping world threatening things and then being paid for it is not ridiculous.
30:14 --> 30:19 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I'm sure that they make good money off of it so they can still don't make.
30:19 --> 30:29 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, actually they can only like 90% of the proceeds or whatever, and it would still be like, oh wow, this is very charitable, but I don't, I don't know.
30:29 --> 30:38 [SPEAKER_00]: And do you have to say, I think everyone who is a customer of invincible ink is the biggest chump in the world because invincible would show up whether you're paying him or not.
30:38 --> 30:41 [SPEAKER_00]: Like this guy, he does not care.
30:41 --> 30:48 [SPEAKER_00]: If he hears there's something going down, he's running after you anyway, so if that little monthly fee is not doing a whole lot.
30:48 --> 30:53 [SPEAKER_04]: The whole thing was like, you get priority on where he is.
30:54 --> 30:56 [SPEAKER_02]: It's guaranteed that you're going to have someone.
30:57 --> 31:08 [SPEAKER_04]: Without Invincible, Invincible is showing up after half the office building is collapsed, and people are like hundreds are dead, right?
31:08 --> 31:12 [SPEAKER_04]: But with Invincible, Inky is showing up after,
31:13 --> 31:15 [SPEAKER_04]: one floor of the building is cute.
31:16 --> 31:21 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and he probably tries to keep the collateral to momentum on what he should.
31:21 --> 31:24 [SPEAKER_02]: He normally does already, but I don't know.
31:24 --> 31:26 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe he's slightly more motivated.
31:26 --> 31:27 [SPEAKER_00]: That's a great point.
31:28 --> 31:36 [SPEAKER_00]: I think with that, let's take a quick break and then we will talk a little bit more about the Viltrumite War and the Guardians and all of that stuff.
31:37 --> 31:38 [SPEAKER_00]: We will be right back.
31:41 --> 31:49 [SPEAKER_00]: Alright, and we are back, and we are going to jump right into the Viltromite War with the Coalition of Planets.
31:49 --> 31:55 [SPEAKER_00]: Chase, how do you feel about Alan and Nolan having a little buddy cop adventure through space?
31:55 --> 31:58 [SPEAKER_04]: Dude, Alan and Nolan...
31:58 --> 32:00 [SPEAKER_04]: the goat duo come on.
32:01 --> 32:14 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, like, I sent this to talk to Aaron today, so not to take credit for the idea, but it was another person watching Invincible talking about the show and they were saying that every moment that Nolan is on screen is just like
32:14 --> 32:34 [SPEAKER_04]: pure entertainment because his character arc is so good and he's so well written and I think it's like kind of true that for lack of better terminology, he character mugs everyone else in this in the show because he is
32:34 --> 32:57 [SPEAKER_04]: not to say that anyone else is like poorly written, you know, but he is written so like to a different degree than the other characters, because every time he is directly involved in what's going on on screen or on the page, it's like this is genuinely very interesting, I am enjoying every second of it.
32:57 --> 33:04 [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's because he's so well-rounded, you know, like he's he's got emotional depth to him.
33:04 --> 33:08 [SPEAKER_02]: He's he's he's got he also will punch the shit out of something.
33:08 --> 33:09 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean,
33:10 --> 33:13 [SPEAKER_02]: He's smart, he is trying to make up for what he's done.
33:14 --> 33:17 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, the whole redemption arc, everyone loves a redemption arc.
33:18 --> 33:21 [SPEAKER_02]: I think every part of his character just works really, really well.
33:22 --> 33:25 [SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, the summation of that is the most entertaining.
33:25 --> 33:31 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm surprised with how much I've grown to like Alan the Alien when they first introduced him.
33:31 --> 33:33 [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, oh, great Seth Rogan.
33:33 --> 33:35 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not a big Seth Rogan fan.
33:35 --> 33:37 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I was like, oh, I'm not gonna.
33:37 --> 33:38 [SPEAKER_04]: What the fuck?
33:38 --> 33:40 [SPEAKER_04]: That was kind of an uncanny impression.
33:40 --> 33:43 [SPEAKER_04]: Holy shit.
33:43 --> 33:45 [SPEAKER_04]: I can't look at it.
33:46 --> 33:56 [SPEAKER_04]: No, when I originally heard South Seth Rogan as his voice when I watched season one because like back then I didn't like look into the cast before watching the show.
33:56 --> 33:57 [SPEAKER_04]: I just watched the show.
33:57 --> 34:08 [SPEAKER_04]: I was like damn lowkey disappointing not any happier with it at this point in time, but you know, life is life and you get on with it.
34:08 --> 34:13 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, when I read the comics, I didn't envision Seth Rogan for his character voice.
34:14 --> 34:22 [SPEAKER_04]: I still think don't love it, but you know, I do like Alan as a character very much, so it's kind of like the balance to it.
34:22 --> 34:25 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, speaking of Alan, I have to get something off my chest.
34:26 --> 34:28 [SPEAKER_04]: I think I'm about to agree with you on this.
34:29 --> 34:41 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that all of the sex jokes that they've rammed into this season, which have all essentially been the exact same joke retold 15 times, got old really fast.
34:42 --> 34:54 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think the the first two times that they showed Nolan, like clamping the pillow around his head was like half funny and then when it was like every 30 seconds it was like bro, come on.
34:54 --> 34:58 [SPEAKER_04]: Haha, I'm eight years old again or whatever.
34:58 --> 34:59 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm four years old.
34:59 --> 35:04 [SPEAKER_04]: Also, I thought what was more annoying was that Debbie and Paul won.
35:04 --> 35:07 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I was including that in the internet.
35:07 --> 35:08 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, no, no.
35:08 --> 35:18 [SPEAKER_04]: I know you were, but I think that one was even more egregious because it's like Debbie is like this character who's like so well written, always has great dialogue and then it's like
35:18 --> 35:21 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, if you're fine, it's at funny!
35:21 --> 35:23 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, if you're fine, it's at fun!
35:23 --> 35:28 [SPEAKER_04]: Like four times in a row, and it's like shut up.
35:28 --> 35:29 [SPEAKER_04]: Pissing me off.
35:29 --> 35:32 [SPEAKER_04]: You're actually pissing me the fuck off.
35:32 --> 35:34 [SPEAKER_04]: This is like an enjoyable part of this series.
35:34 --> 35:41 [SPEAKER_04]: Like this is a very human part of this series where Debbie and Paul are like developing their relationship and discussing like where to go next with it.
35:41 --> 35:46 [SPEAKER_04]: And it's like Debbie's just like, don't worry about the six part because all of her things is funny.
35:46 --> 36:01 [SPEAKER_04]: the other thing that like low key pissed me off and it was like this is just actually some weirdo is writing this part of the show because what the fuck what are like this part of the series was because when all of it was like don't worry
36:03 --> 36:07 [SPEAKER_04]: Mark, you and Eve are almost as loud or whatever, or some shit like that.
36:07 --> 36:15 [SPEAKER_04]: I was like, what kind of like, get a set of weird thing to be like, oh, this is going to be such a laugh.
36:15 --> 36:17 [SPEAKER_04]: It's like, that is weird.
36:18 --> 36:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm all for being open and very, like, don't stigmatize, but also you don't need to hear what's happening in the room next to you.
36:30 --> 36:34 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, we don't need to all be aware of what everyone is doing at all times.
36:34 --> 36:39 [SPEAKER_00]: We don't need, that's at least my thought on the subject, which speaking of Oliver,
36:40 --> 36:42 [SPEAKER_00]: However, he doesn't pay.
36:43 --> 36:45 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, how much does this job pay?
36:45 --> 36:48 [SPEAKER_00]: But also, let the poor boy play his game boy.
36:49 --> 36:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Let him play his Pokemon, man.
36:51 --> 36:52 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, he needs a break sometimes.
36:53 --> 36:54 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, brain nourishment.
36:55 --> 36:56 [SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
36:56 --> 36:57 [SPEAKER_00]: I do.
36:57 --> 36:58 [SPEAKER_00]: I feel really bad for him.
36:59 --> 37:00 [SPEAKER_00]: He didn't want any of this.
37:01 --> 37:03 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay, that's not sure.
37:03 --> 37:05 [SPEAKER_02]: He did want to run the faith with Congress.
37:06 --> 37:07 [SPEAKER_02]: And then it didn't go so well.
37:07 --> 37:10 [SPEAKER_02]: But he was ready.
37:10 --> 37:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Richard, if you had to spend a week on board the venture, would you feel safe?
37:19 --> 37:21 [SPEAKER_01]: No, not with that captain.
37:21 --> 37:25 [SPEAKER_00]: You don't think he deserves like some sort of recognition, maybe a promotion.
37:25 --> 37:29 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, no, he got them from point A to point B.
37:30 --> 37:31 [SPEAKER_02]: That's his job.
37:31 --> 37:40 [SPEAKER_02]: That's like, that's not even the bare minimum because he ran into an
37:41 --> 37:42 [SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
37:42 --> 37:44 [SPEAKER_02]: You're not trying to get me.
37:44 --> 37:45 [SPEAKER_02]: You're not trying to get me.
37:45 --> 37:46 [SPEAKER_02]: You're not trying to get me.
37:46 --> 37:47 [SPEAKER_00]: You're not trying to get me.
37:47 --> 37:48 [SPEAKER_00]: You're not trying to get me.
37:48 --> 37:50 [SPEAKER_00]: You're not trying to get me.
37:50 --> 37:51 [SPEAKER_00]: You're not trying to get me.
37:51 --> 37:52 [SPEAKER_00]: You're not trying to get me.
37:52 --> 37:52 [SPEAKER_00]: You're not trying to get me.
37:52 --> 37:54 [SPEAKER_00]: You're not trying to get me.
37:54 --> 37:55 [SPEAKER_00]: You're not trying to get me.
37:55 --> 37:56 [SPEAKER_02]: You're not trying to get me.
37:56 --> 37:57 [SPEAKER_02]: You're not trying to get me.
37:57 --> 37:59 [SPEAKER_02]: You're not trying to get me.
37:59 --> 38:00 [SPEAKER_02]: You're not trying to get me.
38:00 --> 38:01 [SPEAKER_02]: You're not trying to get me.
38:01 --> 38:02 [SPEAKER_02]: You're not trying to get me.
38:02 --> 38:03 [SPEAKER_02]: You're not trying to get me.
38:03 --> 38:04 [SPEAKER_02]: You're not trying to get me.
38:04 --> 38:04 [SPEAKER_02]: You're not trying to get me.
38:05 --> 38:06 [SPEAKER_02]: You're not trying to get me.
38:06 --> 38:06 [SPEAKER_02]: You're not trying to get me.
38:06 --> 38:11 [SPEAKER_00]: Would you be joyous if everyone you've ever known died to the scourge of Iris?
38:12 --> 38:14 [SPEAKER_02]: I look on the bright side and say, you know what?
38:14 --> 38:15 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm still alive.
38:16 --> 38:20 [SPEAKER_02]: But I'd mourn everyone around me because obviously that'd be horrifying.
38:21 --> 38:25 [SPEAKER_00]: I was a big fan of the Nolan flashback scene on Viltrum.
38:25 --> 38:27 [SPEAKER_00]: I thought that was really cool.
38:27 --> 38:28 [SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was really well done.
38:28 --> 38:38 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't recall who played young Nolan, but it is someone who's fairly like well-known in the acting and the voice acting world, so cool to see that.
38:39 --> 38:46 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I also really liked, um, I know, I think I mentioned it when we recorded the or tried recording the last time.
38:47 --> 38:56 [SPEAKER_02]: The visual of the built-in mic corpses, the billions of them all floating out in space was just insane.
38:57 --> 39:00 [SPEAKER_02]: And then they have the ring around the planet.
39:01 --> 39:02 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, why?
39:02 --> 39:04 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, was that not fire?
39:04 --> 39:15 [SPEAKER_02]: No, it was like, that is, that's metal as fuck, but everything else around it was so well represented, like the scale of this, of this genocide.
39:16 --> 39:27 [SPEAKER_02]: Like it is insane to see and tragic, even though they are horrible, because they don't have to be, they could just be better and not evil.
39:28 --> 39:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I love the point that they make,
39:31 --> 39:42 [SPEAKER_00]: in these episodes where they tell Omni Man like your people underwent the same thing that you guys did to pretty much everyone you ever came in contact with.
39:43 --> 39:45 [SPEAKER_00]: And you could have taken that opportunity.
39:46 --> 39:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you could have taken that opportunity and looked inward a little bit, thought about it, been like damn, that kind of sucks.
39:53 --> 39:57 [SPEAKER_00]: But now you were just like, well, there's only 50 of us left, so we better get to work.
39:57 --> 39:59 [SPEAKER_00]: It's gonna be a lot harder now.
39:59 --> 40:01 [SPEAKER_04]: It's crazy to think too.
40:01 --> 40:08 [SPEAKER_04]: Also, because like before the Scourge virus, they're probably sending like groups of filter might's to plan it.
40:09 --> 40:12 [SPEAKER_04]: Now it's like this and like one to each planet, you know?
40:13 --> 40:19 [SPEAKER_04]: But imagine like this scale at what like five filter might show up to the planet.
40:20 --> 40:23 [SPEAKER_02]: You're dying, and three would be enough.
40:23 --> 40:27 [SPEAKER_02]: We saw on Thraxa, those three were deadly as hell.
40:28 --> 40:30 [SPEAKER_02]: They outclassed, or they outclassed.
40:31 --> 40:36 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, they did outclass, Alan, and then also Mark, and they didn't remember.
40:36 --> 40:37 [SPEAKER_03]: Alan let them cook him.
40:38 --> 40:40 [SPEAKER_03]: No, no, but they beat him as that's the first.
40:40 --> 40:40 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.
40:42 --> 40:44 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, now he's thinking buff.
40:46 --> 40:49 [SPEAKER_02]: But, yeah, no, you're right.
40:50 --> 40:53 [SPEAKER_02]: He's seeing five Viltramites destroy a planet.
40:53 --> 40:55 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm assuming they're done in like two days, maybe.
40:55 --> 41:00 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I feel like they're more than I'd be.
41:01 --> 41:02 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, they're insane.
41:03 --> 41:03 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
41:03 --> 41:11 [SPEAKER_00]: And we get a little bit of info that this virus was engineered by the betrayer, aka, Thadis.
41:11 --> 41:17 [SPEAKER_00]: uh, the whole fetus betrayer reveal, I didn't feel a whole lot from that.
41:17 --> 41:25 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that was more for Nolan than it was for us as an audience because the lore of the betrayer really hasn't been a big thing in the series.
41:26 --> 41:28 [SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of, they've hinted at it a few times.
41:28 --> 41:31 [SPEAKER_00]: They've mentioned the betrayer, but it wasn't anything crazy.
41:31 --> 41:33 [SPEAKER_04]: It's been a while since I read the comics.
41:33 --> 41:40 [SPEAKER_04]: So I don't know if they're going to go into more detail about
41:41 --> 41:52 [SPEAKER_04]: or like what happened but in the comics they had like a little more detail about like how Thaidus killed Argo if you guys are interested.
41:53 --> 42:05 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah I'll we'll we'll see I guess how it how they play it out but the the other thing I will say is that like on our side of things I just kind of assumed Thaidus was because he already went against the Empire Empire
42:06 --> 42:19 [SPEAKER_02]: And then I kind of figured that he also engineered the scourge virus because he went against the empire, you know, like it to me, it just all points back to this appointed back to the same guy before we got the reveal.
42:20 --> 42:25 [SPEAKER_00]: I was kind of surprised that he's the one who engineered the virus.
42:25 --> 42:28 [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't think that it would have been something that was engineered.
42:28 --> 42:31 [SPEAKER_00]: I thought that maybe it was just a freak natural event.
42:32 --> 42:34 [SPEAKER_00]: But it was interesting to see that.
42:34 --> 42:38 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it works a lot better as this engineered thing.
42:38 --> 42:46 [SPEAKER_00]: And it gives no one a lot of reasons to hate,
42:47 --> 42:48 [SPEAKER_00]: I hope they don't linger on that tension.
42:48 --> 42:52 [SPEAKER_04]: And God of his abusive parents, that's true.
42:52 --> 42:59 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, okay, I think that Nolan's father seemed to have just a sliver of empathy.
42:59 --> 43:06 [SPEAKER_04]: Bro, just because he stopped his mom from merging him, that's it.
43:07 --> 43:12 [SPEAKER_04]: Bro was still putting belt to ass on his ungodly.
43:12 --> 43:17 [SPEAKER_00]: That's like the equivalent of a kiss on the cheek in Viltromite society.
43:17 --> 43:22 [SPEAKER_00]: It's just like an innocent, harmless little, you know, parent child beat down.
43:22 --> 43:27 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I guess, yeah, yeah, yeah, I, sorry.
43:27 --> 43:31 [SPEAKER_02]: I had one other thing about the Viltromites that I wanted to discuss because it really is just so dumb.
43:32 --> 43:41 [SPEAKER_02]: Mustaches, being the way to like differentiate for the men, I guess, that they're a Viltromite, like what?
43:41 --> 44:04 [SPEAKER_02]: They kept bringing it up like it was like the one I identify actually bringing it up They brought it up and fuse once they brought it up a few times didn't they like no the beard pole The beard pole thing being what revealed right it's a beard pole once no and then they were like the guards outside the thing That's different.
44:04 --> 44:10 [SPEAKER_04]: It's because the mustache is an all-in-compassing like sign
44:10 --> 44:19 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, because it's like Japanese warriors have like ponytails because they wouldn't cut their hair because there was like a Like sign of your honor and like Viltramite tradition.
44:19 --> 44:25 [SPEAKER_04]: They all had the mustache is because our goal had the mustache Oh, okay.
44:26 --> 44:26 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
44:26 --> 44:28 [SPEAKER_04]: I still have a big drip.
44:28 --> 44:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, in honor of their dearly departed dictator.
44:31 --> 44:33 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, okay
44:33 --> 44:39 [SPEAKER_04]: The beard pull isn't like, oh, it's easy for like, Viltrovite to pull their beard off.
44:39 --> 44:41 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no, that's not what I meant.
44:42 --> 44:47 [SPEAKER_02]: I meant like that being the differentiating factor, just seemed kind of goofy.
44:47 --> 44:57 [SPEAKER_04]: Because it's just like every other race probably isn't rocking that stuff like every person in that race is not rocking that mustache, you know?
44:57 --> 45:02 [SPEAKER_00]: The Flaxons, much like the Sec would feel kind of off to me.
45:02 --> 45:08 [SPEAKER_00]: It's one of those recurring plotlines that I don't really care about, and that just keeps on coming back.
45:09 --> 45:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Although I think this is only the second time we've seen the Flaxons, so it's not as a griegeist, but still I...
45:17 --> 45:18 [SPEAKER_00]: They're not characters.
45:18 --> 45:19 [SPEAKER_00]: They're not real villains.
45:19 --> 45:25 [SPEAKER_00]: They're just these mindless drones that show up and start putting people in chains Yeah, they need to be stopped.
45:26 --> 45:27 [SPEAKER_02]: They they will serve.
45:27 --> 45:46 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm assuming as like a good thing though for monster girl and robot to Be come adults Because it is a little weird that they're like Children and they're doing all this So I guess that's like the bright side and then I guess robot will discover some crazy tech maybe
45:47 --> 45:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, if robot comes back in his halfway, not as creepy as he is now, I'll jump for joy.
45:53 --> 45:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
45:54 --> 45:57 [SPEAKER_04]: If you jump for joy, you have to record it and put it on the Patreon.
45:57 --> 45:59 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, well, well, why on the Patreon?
46:00 --> 46:01 [SPEAKER_02]: Put it in the discord for you.
46:02 --> 46:05 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll put up behind a $20 jumping for joy fee paywall.
46:06 --> 46:07 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay.
46:07 --> 46:07 [SPEAKER_00]: Gotcha.
46:08 --> 46:09 [SPEAKER_00]: You don't get to see me joyful for free.
46:09 --> 46:10 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm a hater for free.
46:11 --> 46:11 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
46:11 --> 46:15 [SPEAKER_00]: We now, this whole monster girl and robot thing going missing.
46:15 --> 46:17 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm a little bit sad that monster girl is gone.
46:17 --> 46:19 [SPEAKER_00]: I like her a lot more than I like Rudy.
46:20 --> 46:20 [SPEAKER_04]: Really?
46:20 --> 46:22 [SPEAKER_04]: I thought they're both kind of insufferable.
46:22 --> 46:23 [SPEAKER_00]: Really?
46:23 --> 46:24 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't have a problem with monster girl.
46:25 --> 46:27 [SPEAKER_00]: I think she's pretty, she's pretty all right.
46:27 --> 46:30 [SPEAKER_00]: And you're not heading to your fullest potential, dude.
46:30 --> 46:30 [SPEAKER_04]: Why?
46:31 --> 46:34 [SPEAKER_04]: I thought she was just like kind of a flat character and was like, oh well.
46:34 --> 46:38 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, she hasn't really done a whole lot since Rudy figured out her power.
46:38 --> 46:42 [SPEAKER_04]: Her powers are cool, but like she also just like does nothing.
46:42 --> 46:52 [SPEAKER_04]: Like whenever the guardians are fighting, it's like you think monster girl with like her super strength would be able to do more just now.
46:52 --> 46:59 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I just feel like everyone, I mean, everyone but most of the heroes that she's with also have super strength.
46:59 --> 47:01 [SPEAKER_02]: So even then it's like,
47:01 --> 47:06 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, we got one more person that can, a compound charge, yay.
47:06 --> 47:22 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't appreciate that everyone's powers get like thrown out the window whenever it's convenient for the story, like Martin and Nolan, when they were on the planet full of the Viltrimite eating dinosaur or whatever they were.
47:22 --> 47:25 [SPEAKER_00]: Those two should have been able to fly off the planet in like three sides.
47:25 --> 47:28 [SPEAKER_00]: No, it's because there's what the gravity is higher, but the gravity is higher.
47:28 --> 47:34 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't care, they should have been able to get out of there whether the gravity was higher or not, man.
47:34 --> 47:41 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I do agree with that, but I'm pretty sure the gravity is like hundreds of times.
47:41 --> 47:48 [SPEAKER_02]: They're still though like two of the strongest beings that we've seen, you know?
47:48 --> 47:54 [SPEAKER_02]: Like the Ragnars if they get reintroduced, if they become Ragnars are really strong.
47:54 --> 47:56 [SPEAKER_04]: like really strong.
47:56 --> 48:09 [SPEAKER_02]: They better, they better fight like it because if everything on the, if the gravity on the planet is that bad, then these things got to be that strong or or what the heck you know, like it needs to stay consistent.
48:10 --> 48:12 [SPEAKER_00]: Speaking of the Viltromites.
48:12 --> 48:17 [SPEAKER_00]: We didn't mention that the grand-region Therag.
48:18 --> 48:18 [SPEAKER_00]: Therag.
48:18 --> 48:19 [SPEAKER_00]: Therag.
48:20 --> 48:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, grand-region Therag.
48:22 --> 48:25 [SPEAKER_00]: We finally saw a little bit more of him.
48:26 --> 48:31 [SPEAKER_00]: We've had him tease a couple of times throughout the series, but we've never gotten full on interactions with him.
48:32 --> 48:36 [SPEAKER_00]: And he is voiced by Lee Pace, which is pretty cool.
48:36 --> 48:41 [SPEAKER_00]: Another great celebrity addition to this cast.
48:42 --> 48:47 [SPEAKER_00]: I do too, I think Lee Pace has a very regal voice.
48:47 --> 48:49 [SPEAKER_00]: He's good at playing like rulers.
48:49 --> 48:51 [SPEAKER_00]: He does a really good job in foundation.
48:51 --> 48:57 [SPEAKER_00]: He does a really good job in the Hobbit movies for however you may or may not like those movies.
48:57 --> 48:59 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that Lee Pace is performing pretty good.
48:59 --> 49:01 [SPEAKER_04]: I think he does good as Drander room.
49:01 --> 49:01 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
49:02 --> 49:03 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
49:03 --> 49:04 [SPEAKER_00]: Tolkien Jar.
49:05 --> 49:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Fuck.
49:07 --> 49:09 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll put another dollar in the Tolkien Jar.
49:10 --> 49:28 [SPEAKER_02]: And then I get that all the dollars in the jar, I don't know where that money goes chase nice splitting it I'm not kidding shit with you, oh I can have it all okay, all right, what are you saying Aaron, I was just saying that I'm excited to see more of him.
49:28 --> 49:30 [SPEAKER_00]: He seems like a really interesting character.
49:30 --> 49:32 [SPEAKER_00]: He seems like a good
49:33 --> 49:37 [SPEAKER_00]: final villain of the series maybe or at least of the filter my plotlines.
49:37 --> 49:39 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how far this goes.
49:39 --> 49:43 [SPEAKER_04]: They're just gonna be a lot of seasons, I think.
49:43 --> 49:45 [SPEAKER_04]: At least like three more.
49:46 --> 49:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
49:47 --> 49:49 [SPEAKER_00]: So we've got a lot left.
49:49 --> 49:53 [SPEAKER_04]: They are going at a snail's pace, dude.
49:53 --> 49:58 [SPEAKER_04]: Eight episodes a season is unacceptable for a long-laked series.
49:59 --> 50:01 [SPEAKER_04]: This is not a short series, please.
50:01 --> 50:01 [SPEAKER_04]: And that's it.
50:02 --> 50:04 [SPEAKER_02]: Eight episodes a season is just unacceptable.
50:05 --> 50:06 [SPEAKER_02]: It's so awful.
50:07 --> 50:12 [SPEAKER_04]: It's an awful, it's awful, they have a terrible schedule too.
50:12 --> 50:19 [SPEAKER_02]: No, I'm saying in general, eight episodes, like, like, why does every show on every service have to be up?
50:19 --> 50:20 [SPEAKER_02]: We're making it eight, one hour episodes.
50:20 --> 50:22 [SPEAKER_02]: Yep, that's all we're gonna do.
50:23 --> 50:24 [SPEAKER_02]: I remember when,
50:24 --> 50:50 [SPEAKER_02]: back in my day shows we're 24 episodes 30 minutes ish an episode maybe 45 and you watched your filler slap all right the end they only have 10 animators i'm not saying for the record that it is on the animator i'm not an invincible like animation hater i don't mind the art style but there's no way it takes you whole calendar year to make eight episodes
50:50 --> 50:51 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm sorry.
50:51 --> 50:52 [SPEAKER_04]: It's not real.
50:52 --> 51:00 [SPEAKER_02]: It does, but that's only because Amazon is like, all right, we're going to hire 10 animators and pay them like shit.
51:00 --> 51:01 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we go.
51:02 --> 51:05 [SPEAKER_00]: I am impressed that they got out this season.
51:05 --> 51:09 [SPEAKER_00]: I almost exactly a year after the last one.
51:09 --> 51:13 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, did the last one have like a fricking like hell along hiatus.
51:13 --> 51:18 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the last one.
51:18 --> 51:23 [SPEAKER_00]: You're right, you're right season two where they released it in like two parts or something.
51:23 --> 51:23 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
51:23 --> 51:28 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just glad that they figured out how to get a full season of television out in a year.
51:28 --> 51:28 [SPEAKER_04]: Don't worry.
51:28 --> 51:33 [SPEAKER_04]: There's only in episodes, but there's also ads.
51:33 --> 51:34 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god.
51:34 --> 51:35 [SPEAKER_00]: Do you want to brisk iced tea?
51:36 --> 51:37 [SPEAKER_03]: They mark.
51:37 --> 51:38 [SPEAKER_03]: They stole your colors.
51:39 --> 51:59 [SPEAKER_00]: you know, I thought it was not to talk about the ads like they're a part of the show, but the brisk iced tea ad that they had, it made me laugh because Adam used actress was like doing her part in it and Mark had no lines because they couldn't like afford Stevenson for the commercial.
52:00 --> 52:05 [SPEAKER_04]: So, I can lie guys, I don't have ads on mine because I
52:06 --> 52:07 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god.
52:07 --> 52:09 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, Corpo, you're a rat.
52:10 --> 52:11 [SPEAKER_02]: Get out of my sight.
52:11 --> 52:15 [SPEAKER_04]: He could have technically my mom's a Corpo because I upgraded her.
52:15 --> 52:17 [SPEAKER_04]: That's some discrimination.
52:17 --> 52:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Why don't we talk about organized crime instead of corporations.
52:21 --> 52:28 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I like this plot line by the way You hate the titan Mr. Liu machine head plot line.
52:28 --> 52:28 [SPEAKER_00]: Hi.
52:28 --> 52:29 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
52:29 --> 52:30 [SPEAKER_00]: I hate Mr. Liu.
52:30 --> 52:30 [SPEAKER_00]: He's okay.
52:30 --> 52:31 [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you.
52:31 --> 52:32 [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you That's what I was gonna say.
52:32 --> 52:36 [SPEAKER_04]: I was gonna say Mr. Liu is so fucking boring.
52:37 --> 52:44 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh That old man should be who can't get beat up, but it's also not beating you up.
52:44 --> 52:45 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh my god.
52:45 --> 52:46 [SPEAKER_04]: You're so fucked
52:48 --> 52:49 [SPEAKER_00]: his little bodyguard is funny though.
52:51 --> 52:52 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I don't know.
52:52 --> 52:54 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'd rather watch the bodyguard do stuff than him.
52:54 --> 52:57 [SPEAKER_02]: How do you make me not want to see a big dragon fight stuff?
52:59 --> 53:05 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this is another one of the things where big dragon fights had all he does is body slam you by the way.
53:05 --> 53:06 [SPEAKER_04]: Like what?
53:06 --> 53:08 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and he doesn't even like like he does.
53:09 --> 53:11 [SPEAKER_04]: No, I have no claw action.
53:12 --> 53:13 [SPEAKER_04]: Like what are we doing?
53:13 --> 53:15 [SPEAKER_04]: He might be a fraud.
53:15 --> 53:18 [SPEAKER_00]: He was still able to beat Oliver up pretty hard.
53:19 --> 53:22 [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I could beat up a two-year-old, too, bro.
53:22 --> 53:22 [SPEAKER_04]: Come on.
53:23 --> 53:23 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
53:23 --> 53:26 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, you're in, are you telling me that?
53:26 --> 53:28 [SPEAKER_02]: Are you telling me you'd have trouble beating up a two-year-old?
53:29 --> 53:29 [SPEAKER_02]: Morally.
53:31 --> 53:34 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I don't know if it's the morals that are the problem.
53:34 --> 53:36 [SPEAKER_00]: I just haven't been hitting the gym very much.
53:36 --> 53:39 [SPEAKER_04]: Air inverse a two-year-old who wins.
53:40 --> 53:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I really liked the little one-off like metal-bender character that attacked Titan in the park.
53:46 --> 53:47 [SPEAKER_00]: I thought he was pretty cool.
53:48 --> 53:51 [SPEAKER_02]: Dude, he was more interesting than Mr. Titan did.
53:51 --> 53:59 [SPEAKER_04]: These towers are more fun than what if I became a dragon but did nothing dragon like, it's up for fly around.
53:59 --> 54:06 [SPEAKER_04]: Like they literally put like a parade fucking float skin on top of a Viltramite.
54:06 --> 54:08 [SPEAKER_04]: That's literally it's bro.
54:08 --> 54:15 [SPEAKER_04]: Like it's punching cake, but he's wearing a different like a giant blowup costume.
54:17 --> 54:29 [SPEAKER_00]: Both Titan and Liu seem like they got cooked kind of hard because they got forced back into the order by machine head and I mean, I think it's them just trying to put a bow on it and
54:30 --> 54:38 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think we'll see Titan again, but I don't think that we're going to get any more of like Mr. Liu and that plot.
54:39 --> 54:42 [SPEAKER_04]: What pisses you off more Mr. Liar, the SecWids?
54:42 --> 54:49 [SPEAKER_02]: Honestly, for me, Mr. Liu, because I love dragons, how are you going to be a dragon and I'm not interested in anything you're doing?
54:50 --> 54:52 [SPEAKER_04]: I also hate Mr. Liu more.
54:53 --> 54:59 [SPEAKER_00]: No, it's just no way that the SecWids are more interesting than Mr. Liu.
55:00 --> 55:05 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think they are more interesting, but they're less aggravating.
55:07 --> 55:07 [SPEAKER_04]: Dude, I don't even care about it.
55:07 --> 55:10 [SPEAKER_04]: It's like, sequits are on my screen.
55:10 --> 55:11 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm like, oh, I can't wait for this to be over.
55:11 --> 55:13 [SPEAKER_04]: Mr. Leeu is on my screen.
55:13 --> 55:15 [SPEAKER_04]: Like, oh, this is so fucking annoying.
55:15 --> 55:18 [SPEAKER_04]: This motherfucker is so fucking boring.
55:18 --> 55:21 [SPEAKER_02]: Who's he can't even be a dragon, right?
55:21 --> 55:22 [SPEAKER_02]: It's not that hard.
55:23 --> 55:24 [SPEAKER_04]: Wings, fire.
55:24 --> 55:29 [SPEAKER_04]: Then the crazy part, too, is Mr. Leeu is an actual person, but he also has no story.
55:32 --> 55:53 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, plus like the second the one thing I will say is that they're kind of like a unique take on a hive mind like they have to have a human like a sapient host to work which I guess isn't that unique but otherwise you know them being mindless without a host is the unique part.
55:53 --> 55:57 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, there's a way to defeat the sequins and it's really just like
55:58 --> 56:04 [SPEAKER_04]: old age, Mr. Lee, like, they've never actually defeated it and they're like, oh, we killed him.
56:04 --> 56:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Nope, he's actually alive still.
56:07 --> 56:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Speaking of the Secwoods being easy to kill, I almost threw my computer across the room when Rudy coughed up a secwood.
56:16 --> 56:18 [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, there's no way we're doing this again.
56:18 --> 56:20 [SPEAKER_00]: I can't fucking do it.
56:23 --> 56:26 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm glad we all thought that maybe Mark was right.
56:27 --> 56:30 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, really shut up, you fucking annoying motherfuckers.
56:32 --> 56:37 [SPEAKER_00]: If they just deleted Rudy from the show, it would be probably 25 to 30% better.
56:38 --> 56:40 [SPEAKER_02]: Bring Rex back.
56:40 --> 56:45 [SPEAKER_02]: For real, he should be the one coming back constantly, not fucking Mr. Lee or the Sec Woods.
56:47 --> 56:59 [SPEAKER_00]: And with that, I would like to ask the question, does anyone have any final thoughts or plot points that we didn't bring up that we want to talk about before we start wrapping things up for the night?
57:00 --> 57:02 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't even have any first thoughts, dude.
57:02 --> 57:03 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm ready for that.
57:03 --> 57:04 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm ready for the how we feel, part.
57:05 --> 57:08 [SPEAKER_00]: Alright, if you're so damn ready, why don't you start?
57:09 --> 57:19 [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, I think the pace for these three episodes has been really good, unlike the previous season it feels like the side-sories and character development really is flowing with the show in a way that doesn't take you out of the main arcs.
57:20 --> 57:25 [SPEAKER_04]: Going into Nolan's past and getting to see what happened to Viltremo is super cool.
57:25 --> 57:29 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know what to expect to see from Lee Pace, but so far I'm very happy.
57:30 --> 57:37 [SPEAKER_04]: I do have, I do have to agree with Aaron the first couple of times the sex jokes were pretty funny, but at some point it was just taking screen time.
57:37 --> 57:40 [SPEAKER_04]: I rather see being used on the actual story.
57:40 --> 57:44 [SPEAKER_04]: So I'll start to the season and episodes were very entertaining eight out of ten.
57:44 --> 57:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you Richard.
57:47 --> 57:48 [SPEAKER_00]: What have you got?
57:48 --> 57:50 [SPEAKER_02]: This was a pretty great start to the season for me.
57:50 --> 57:54 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm glad that the conquest plot moved forward already.
57:54 --> 57:57 [SPEAKER_02]: I was really hoping.
57:58 --> 58:04 [SPEAKER_02]: that we just get that, so that we could see Thrag, we could see more Viltrum, however, you know, whatever.
58:04 --> 58:10 [SPEAKER_02]: But it's also good to see how Mark has developed in like the time skip, because you know, it's been a couple months or whatever.
58:10 --> 58:16 [SPEAKER_02]: I do agree with Aaron though about the side plots that he's got, he's got to tell you about in a minute.
58:17 --> 58:19 [SPEAKER_02]: And some of them really just need to be wrapped up soon.
58:19 --> 58:25 [SPEAKER_02]: I think someone in the show actually said that we need to start dealing with these threats permanently.
58:25 --> 58:33 [SPEAKER_02]: So maybe they will, but I'm excited for the rest of the season and I got to give the episodes an 8 out of 10 just like Chase.
58:33 --> 58:35 [SPEAKER_00]: Two 8 out of 10s, I feel like the lone wolf over here.
58:37 --> 58:42 [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, yeah man, I thought this first batch of episodes were pretty fun, they threw us right back into the action.
58:42 --> 58:45 [SPEAKER_00]: moved along a lot of the right major plot lines.
58:46 --> 58:55 [SPEAKER_00]: The voice cast just continues to be one of the best parts of the series I think, especially with the introduction of some folks like Lee Pace.
58:57 --> 59:09 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think that this cast has just always been stacked out on how they can afford so much fire power, but I'm glad that they can, and even if it takes away from the animation a little bit, I'm okay with that.
59:09 --> 59:31 [SPEAKER_00]: I do think that this show gets bogged down by rehashing old storylines from time to time, and the returning C plots are definitely not equal, some of them are way more interesting than others, but overall I'm really happy with these episodes and can't wait to see where this season is going to land, so I would say it's a solid 7 out of 10 for these three episodes.
59:32 --> 59:37 [SPEAKER_00]: And with that, I think that we are going to be wrapping up for today.
59:37 --> 59:44 [SPEAKER_00]: Before we let you guys go, I just wanted to give a quick shout out to all the other podcasts and the network first to the ones who make this all possible.
59:44 --> 59:48 [SPEAKER_00]: Our parent podcasts, the lower-hounds, they are currently doing some coverage of the pit.
59:49 --> 59:53 [SPEAKER_00]: At least you just wrapped up a bunch of Oscars coverage with some guests.
59:53 --> 59:57 [SPEAKER_00]: And that was really good, so make sure you go and check all of that out.
59:57 --> 01:00:10 [SPEAKER_00]: Also, in the network, are some really excellent podcasts like Walshift Dust, the Star Wars Canyon Timeline podcast, Rings and Rituals, Properly Howard Movie Review, the Severance podcast, and never mind the music.
01:00:10 --> 01:00:17 [SPEAKER_00]: Links to all of those are also going to be in the description, as well as the info on how to get in touch with us.
01:00:17 --> 01:00:27 [SPEAKER_00]: So with that being said, thank you all for joining us and we are looking forward to seeing you all very soon for the next two episodes
01:00:27 --> 01:00:27 [SPEAKER_00]: You