Meet Nevermind the Music

[00:00:00] Hey everybody, David from The Lorehounds here. John, Alicia and I are super excited to share with you the latest

[00:00:07] podcast to join the Lorehounds Network. Nevermind the music. Mark and Nicole are two friends.

[00:00:14] They're also academics. Mark teaches music and Nicole teaches psychology and they put together this great podcast

[00:00:22] where they dig into various pop songs.

[00:00:25] The moment we heard their samples, we knew that this was exactly the kind of material that the Lorehounds community loves.

[00:00:34] John, Alicia and I have recorded an interview with Mark and Nicole and you can find that now on the main Lorehounds feed.

[00:00:44] Starting today, you can find the Nevermind the Music podcast by going to our website at thelorehounds.com

[00:00:50] or by searching for it in your podcast player.

[00:00:53] There's also links in the show notes for this episode. If you're on our discord,

[00:00:58] we've also set up a channel just for them over on our server, so I invite you to join the conversation there.

[00:01:06] Otherwise, take a listen to this five-minute intro that Mark and Nicole put together

[00:01:10] so you can get a sense of what their podcast is about. We hope you enjoy it as much as we do.

[00:01:17] It's a really great podcast and we're super excited to have them as part of our extended community.

[00:01:23] Could the tone of this intro be us trying to decide what the tone of the intro is?

[00:01:27] It's key that people know that we're like academics, but that we're doing this irreverently.

[00:01:31] That's what I want them to know.

[00:01:33] Are you recording now?

[00:01:35] Yeah.

[00:01:35] Are we recording right now or recording?

[00:01:37] We're recording the pre-conversation.

[00:01:39] Oh my gosh.

[00:01:44] Hi, I'm Nicole and I'm Mark and this is Nevermind the Music.

[00:01:48] Hey Mark, do you ever notice that when you're listening to music,

[00:01:50] one part of the song just gets really stuck in your head and you like lumenate on it

[00:01:55] and you can't get out of your head?

[00:01:56] Absolutely.

[00:01:57] And I've got some musical explanations for that, but I bet you have some psychological explanations for it.

[00:02:03] I totally do.

[00:02:04] Anybody remember in high school or middle school or even college,

[00:02:08] you had that professor that would every now and then just like waste a lot of time talking about random stuff.

[00:02:14] Yeah, it's us.

[00:02:15] Half the time you're like,

[00:02:16] we have a test tomorrow, but most of the time you're like, yeah, he's wasting time.

[00:02:23] That's this podcast.

[00:02:24] I think it is.

[00:02:25] I do that in my classes.

[00:02:26] Like I'm notorious for that, that I have people like aware off track right now and like, OK, like, gosh, nerd.

[00:02:33] You say that's right.

[00:02:35] That's student.

[00:02:36] But you say notorious like it's bad.

[00:02:38] That's where the meaningful learning happened.

[00:02:41] I think so.

[00:02:41] Someone raised their hand and they start talking about hardcore punk when I was teaching a lecture on Beethoven

[00:02:45] and we go on this 20 minute sidetrack that I feel like people are going to remember that better

[00:02:51] than if we just stuck to the plan.

[00:02:53] I think so.

[00:02:53] I mean, maybe that's ADHD, but I'm not sure.

[00:02:56] And I think that you're not a psychologist or anything.

[00:03:00] Oh, wait a minute.

[00:03:01] We are two friends, one a psychology professor, the other a music professor talking about a song over a beer.

[00:03:09] Maybe we drank too much coffee.

[00:03:10] When we first started, I told you when I the first thing I do when I listen to a new song is I read the lyrics

[00:03:15] and you told me I was listening to music wrong.

[00:03:17] Oh, no, I did not tell you that.

[00:03:19] Are you kidding?

[00:03:19] You said you're like listening to it wrong.

[00:03:21] And I was like, how could it how could it be wrong?

[00:03:24] I if I said that I have edited it out of the podcast in shame because I did not mean to say that.

[00:03:30] Like what you're doing it wrong.

[00:03:31] I was like, well, what's the right way?

[00:03:33] Mark, what are some of like the different songs that we've talked about so far in this this pod?

[00:03:37] Well, there's that time that we started talking about the sign by Ace of Bass.

[00:03:42] And I wanted to talk about how they do some cool key changes from major to minor.

[00:03:46] And then you started talking about Jung's collective unconscious.

[00:03:50] How did we get there?

[00:03:52] It made sense at the time.

[00:03:54] I don't honestly mark.

[00:03:55] So I've written down the topics.

[00:03:56] Yeah, I don't even remember half the things that we talked about.

[00:03:59] So what about the episode where we talk about how the way a Dua Lipa songs melody is built

[00:04:03] is analogous to the various personality components.

[00:04:06] Yeah, that was that was really cool.

[00:04:08] We talked about like how you take like a foundation and keep adding and adding

[00:04:12] and adding on to it and that myriad of sound creates this really complex texture

[00:04:17] like the myriad of our personalities created with our life experiences.

[00:04:21] What I love about this podcast is I think I know why a piece of music works the way it works.

[00:04:26] And I bring us onto the table and I'm like, let me show you a cool chord

[00:04:30] or let me show you a cool melodic trick.

[00:04:32] And you tell me actually why there's like a brain thing going on.

[00:04:35] Like we're talking about a catchy melody and you're like,

[00:04:39] let's talk about intrusive thoughts for a second.

[00:04:42] That conversation got weird, though, that intrusive thought conversation.

[00:04:45] And then sometimes we talk about things so much that we go on

[00:04:48] rants and we had to create like whole sidetrack episodes.

[00:04:51] We listened to Party in the USA and talked about

[00:04:53] like coming of age and stereotypes and how you fit in certain places,

[00:04:58] but not other places.

[00:04:59] Do you remember the sidetrack?

[00:05:00] What was the sidetrack on that?

[00:05:02] How much you hate Los Angeles and love Boston.

[00:05:04] Oh, yeah. Well, I just think that people in Boston are kind but not nice.

[00:05:08] Don't spoil it. Don't spoil it. Save it.

[00:05:10] I'm just saying like there are differences.

[00:05:12] I'm not I'm a Boston girl and you're more you're an LA guy and that's LA guy.

[00:05:16] My San Diego family and friends are like spinning in their way.

[00:05:22] They're fine. They're in San Diego.

[00:05:24] They're not mad. No, they're not mad.

[00:05:25] They're not listening. They're too busy.

[00:05:26] No, they're too busy just being nice to everybody.

[00:05:28] I like the sidetrack about how I had a really lousy high school music teacher,

[00:05:35] even though I'm the professional musician and you had a really awesome

[00:05:37] high school music teacher.

[00:05:39] I had the best high school music teacher.

[00:05:41] That's right. He'll get a whole episode later.

[00:05:53] Never mind the music is part of the Lorhounds Network.

[00:05:56] We launched on Tuesday, September 10th with three full episodes

[00:06:00] featuring Paramore, Ace of Bass and Bone Thugs in Harmony.

[00:06:05] Be sure to subscribe now so you don't miss any episodes when they drop.

[00:06:08] Tell us what you think by sending an email at NeverMusicPod at gmail.com.

[00:06:13] We're also on social media at NeverMusicPod.

[00:06:16] So the theme music stopped about 15 seconds ago, so we'll see you then.

[00:06:21] Thanks for listening.