Dune Storyverse Check-In w/Zach & John from Dune Minute Podcast
David sits down with Zach and John from the Dune Minute Podcast for a wide-ranging check-in on the state of the Dune storyverse. The conversation covers Dune Minute's current coverage of the Sci-Fi Channel miniseries, the latest on Dune: Prophecy season two production, and their spoiler-filled first reactions to the Dune: Part Three teaser trailer — including speculation on the mysterious casket, Anya Taylor-Joy's casting as Alia, the Stoneburner, and whether Denis Villeneuve is pulling from Brian Herbert's expanded novels.
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00:03 --> 00:20 [SPEAKER_02]: everybody David from the lorehouse here and we have a little bit of a check-in with Zack and John from the Dune Minute podcast and we're going to do a little round-up of the state of play of the Dune Storyverse.
00:21 --> 00:22 [SPEAKER_02]: Zack, John, how you guys doing?
00:23 --> 00:23 [SPEAKER_02]: Doing great.
00:23 --> 00:24 [SPEAKER_02]: Good to be here.
00:24 --> 00:30 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah,
00:30 --> 00:38 [SPEAKER_02]: Sunday morning relative to the recording and we're all here with our coffee, but we're here to talk about students so we're happy about that.
00:38 --> 00:38 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
00:39 --> 00:41 [SPEAKER_02]: And a big week in June.
00:41 --> 00:45 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, exactly, which is sort of fortuitous for our recording.
00:46 --> 00:50 [SPEAKER_02]: We've been talking about doing this for a little while and then like, okay, like this is a good opportunity.
00:50 --> 00:55 [SPEAKER_02]: So we're going to talk a little bit about what you guys have going on because you're covering the sci-fi mini series.
00:55 --> 00:56 [SPEAKER_02]: Correct.
00:56 --> 01:11 [SPEAKER_02]: We, there's not a lot of news about doing prophecy, but we can talk a little bit about that and are both of our podcasts plans for future and then we can talk a little bit about doing three maybe we'll do a little bit of
01:11 --> 01:23 [SPEAKER_02]: sort of light, fresh takes, hot takes, microwave takes, whatever you want, we can talk about our coverage plans for when it drops because we have an interesting release schedule.
01:24 --> 01:27 [SPEAKER_02]: But then at the very end, we'll give a big spoiler warning.
01:27 --> 01:41 [SPEAKER_02]: We can actually talk, let's talk about the trailer, what we're seeing on there and pull up book nerd stuff and that go full spoiler on it.
01:41 --> 01:42 [SPEAKER_02]: appropriate moments.
01:42 --> 01:45 [SPEAKER_03]: We can watch your engagement just fall off.
01:45 --> 01:47 [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
01:47 --> 01:47 [SPEAKER_02]: That's fine.
01:48 --> 01:49 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, we know who you are.
01:49 --> 01:50 [SPEAKER_02]: We can see.
01:50 --> 01:51 [SPEAKER_02]: We have second site.
01:51 --> 02:00 [SPEAKER_02]: We can see into the the listenership to see who's really a real fan, who really believes in Paul and the prophecy.
02:01 --> 02:10 [SPEAKER_02]: So what do you guys have going on with Dune Minute podcast because you've finished Dune 1 and 2 and I don't know how many episodes was it?
02:12 --> 02:24 [SPEAKER_03]: Dune 2 I think came in at 158 episodes 154 for part 158 for part 2 so whatever that mental math is it's too early on a Sunday.
02:24 --> 02:26 [SPEAKER_04]: I know we celebrated somewhere in the mix in there.
02:26 --> 02:30 [SPEAKER_04]: We celebrated 300 episodes total for our show.
02:30 --> 02:32 [SPEAKER_04]: So that was a big moment for us.
02:32 --> 02:35 [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, that was a tough journey.
02:35 --> 02:37 [SPEAKER_04]: Some of that points, but I'm glad we got it done.
02:38 --> 02:44 [SPEAKER_02]: And you got one more to do in the doon minute patented format.
02:44 --> 02:47 [SPEAKER_02]: Which is, we can't take credit.
02:47 --> 02:49 [SPEAKER_03]: We can't patent it because we are.
02:49 --> 02:52 [SPEAKER_03]: Definitely not the first minute by minute format.
02:52 --> 02:52 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you're not.
02:53 --> 02:54 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you know, you're that you're my first.
02:54 --> 02:58 [SPEAKER_02]: So you know, like I'm I will forever being, you know, and all of yours.
02:59 --> 03:03 [SPEAKER_03]: there's a whole like community for minute by minute podcasts out there.
03:03 --> 03:09 [SPEAKER_03]: No, and frankly, I forgot the website and I feel like a dumbass for forgetting about it.
03:09 --> 03:14 [SPEAKER_03]: But there's an entire website that's devoted to minute by minute podcasts.
03:14 --> 03:20 [SPEAKER_03]: There's a I believe there are very couple that are doing all of the load of the rings extended editions.
03:21 --> 03:23 [SPEAKER_02]: The extended edition going hard.
03:23 --> 03:26 [SPEAKER_02]: And it's like a 10 year long journey for them.
03:26 --> 03:27 [SPEAKER_02]: There's not, it's crazy.
03:27 --> 03:29 [SPEAKER_02]: Tolkien people are like that though.
03:29 --> 03:31 [SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, they do be like that.
03:31 --> 03:32 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
03:32 --> 03:39 [SPEAKER_02]: We love y'all, we walk in your footsteps and we love you and y'all are crazier than we are.
03:40 --> 03:43 [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, there's all sorts of like other minute by minute podcasts.
03:43 --> 03:45 [SPEAKER_03]: I think there's one for sleepless and Seattle.
03:46 --> 03:47 [SPEAKER_03]: Perfect.
03:47 --> 03:50 [SPEAKER_03]: Not a movie you would expect, but hey, we're here, you know.
03:50 --> 03:54 [SPEAKER_02]: So, Melissa drop a link in the in the channel.
03:54 --> 03:55 [SPEAKER_02]: I can put it into the show notes for this.
03:55 --> 04:03 [SPEAKER_02]: We can throw it into the Dune Conversation Channel on our discord after this episode drops of people are interested.
04:03 --> 04:05 [SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah, for sure.
04:06 --> 04:14 [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, we finished up the second movie, and we're doing the sci-fi mini series, not minute by minutes.
04:15 --> 04:18 [SPEAKER_02]: because that gives myself a little, thank you.
04:18 --> 04:19 [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you guys for the cross.
04:20 --> 04:26 [SPEAKER_04]: That is not something that we really wanted to do in my minute because that would take us God years, years to get there.
04:27 --> 04:31 [SPEAKER_02]: And there's long stretches of minutes in that mini series.
04:31 --> 04:38 [SPEAKER_02]: We're not a lot happens where you just see weird lighting and fantastical costumes without a lot of action or plot.
04:38 --> 04:40 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah.
04:40 --> 04:48 [SPEAKER_04]: We got the the episodes and the when we were covering the movies have such a wide range of run times.
04:49 --> 04:54 [SPEAKER_04]: I think your shortest was eight minutes long or eight and a half minutes long, so like that eight or nine.
04:54 --> 04:55 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
04:55 --> 05:04 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think I think I think I added that one in about five minutes and I was like, oh, cool.
05:04 --> 05:10 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and then our longest one stretches and you know, over the hour mark talking about a single minute of a movie.
05:11 --> 05:11 [SPEAKER_03]: Love it.
05:11 --> 05:14 [SPEAKER_03]: We ever stretch over an hour for a single minute of the movie.
05:15 --> 05:16 [SPEAKER_03]: If we didn't get over, we got real close.
05:16 --> 05:20 [SPEAKER_03]: I think we, I think we were sitting around 50 to 55.
05:20 --> 05:21 [SPEAKER_03]: Got it.
05:21 --> 05:25 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so it's a very wide range of listening times.
05:26 --> 05:29 [SPEAKER_04]: If you want to check out the show We release daily.
05:29 --> 05:32 [SPEAKER_04]: If you're not familiar with the show, we release daily.
05:33 --> 05:34 [SPEAKER_04]: Well Monday through Friday.
05:34 --> 05:36 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we will be daily.
05:36 --> 05:37 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we will be daily.
05:37 --> 05:47 [SPEAKER_04]: And yeah, it's a fun little project we've been going on for the past two and then you had Summer school and you did some in psychopedia entries.
05:48 --> 05:48 [SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
05:48 --> 05:59 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, golds and whole-tune fields and yeah, just some of the key pieces to the the Dune universe I try to explain a little bit more about where those come from and and their larger
05:59 --> 06:04 [SPEAKER_04]: or how they fit into the larger story of Dune, and then we cover the prophecy series as well.
06:04 --> 06:17 [SPEAKER_04]: So that one is, again, not a minute by minute, just episode by episode, but I know we checked in a couple of times before and after endearing the first season of Dune Prophecy.
06:17 --> 06:37 [SPEAKER_02]: which is how I found you guys because that was about the time that we everybody was getting active on uh... blue sky yep and uh... yeah came across you guys and checked in and I was like oh okay cool let's let's hang right let's talk and now we're here and now we're here you miss one of our most important episodes though
06:37 --> 06:38 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, which one isn't?
06:38 --> 06:40 [SPEAKER_03]: That was our interview with Role Vega.
06:40 --> 06:41 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, that's right.
06:41 --> 06:44 [SPEAKER_03]: Who is a member of Hans Zimmer's music team?
06:44 --> 06:45 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
06:45 --> 06:53 [SPEAKER_03]: So we got to sit down with someone who wrote music for Dune and talk just about that whole creative process for an hour.
06:53 --> 06:55 [SPEAKER_03]: And frankly, it was one of the coolest things.
06:55 --> 06:56 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it was all done.
06:57 --> 06:57 [SPEAKER_03]: Nice.
06:58 --> 07:07 [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, we got to get a lot a little bit of behind the scenes, discuss banging trash cans and where that fits in.
07:07 --> 07:12 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, Denise interpretation, um, yeah, there's a lot of, a lot of really cool stuff.
07:12 --> 07:17 [SPEAKER_03]: I would like to add a caveat to what you said about how we released weekdally.
07:17 --> 07:20 [SPEAKER_03]: We released weekdally when we had content to go through.
07:21 --> 07:32 [SPEAKER_03]: We're currently waiting on our next batch of content that will probably be available on Blu-ray at some point in early mid-2027, but you know, Zeno's, you know, really just kind of depends.
07:32 --> 07:40 [SPEAKER_02]: Right, because you will, it, it's helpful for your format to have physical media.
07:40 --> 07:40 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
07:40 --> 07:48 [SPEAKER_02]: Legally purchased physical media that we can go through frame by frame because I do and I will.
07:48 --> 07:57 [SPEAKER_03]: And I will correct where the minute ends, where we'll have further arguments about where the minute ends begin.
07:57 --> 08:22 [SPEAKER_02]: And in the meantime, while we're waiting for Dune 3 to drop, and I think we're going to have what are they calling it doomsday, or doomsday, it's another one of those, what did we have the
08:23 --> 08:30 [SPEAKER_02]: a Friday in the third week of December and Marvel doomsday is also released the same day.
08:31 --> 08:33 [SPEAKER_04]: There's an account on blue sky.
08:34 --> 08:40 [SPEAKER_04]: I forget the exact name, but it's basically every day it counts down the days until they're doing three release date.
08:40 --> 08:41 [SPEAKER_04]: Perfect time.
08:41 --> 08:46 [SPEAKER_02]: What a great use of social media and modern technology, modern computing technology.
08:46 --> 08:47 [SPEAKER_02]: It's fantastic.
08:47 --> 08:49 [SPEAKER_02]: We live such an age we live in.
08:49 --> 08:52 [SPEAKER_04]: I feel like most people would, you know, that's exciting.
08:52 --> 08:56 [SPEAKER_04]: You know, they see that number gets smaller and smaller, but for me it's like it's almost like a threat.
08:58 --> 09:01 [SPEAKER_04]: It's a threat of more work, right?
09:01 --> 09:05 [SPEAKER_03]: We have some fun things planned for actual release and everything.
09:05 --> 09:09 [SPEAKER_03]: And we were very excited for that.
09:09 --> 09:18 [SPEAKER_03]: Obviously, not only has didn't pens, but just like to try and do some gorilla podcasting when it releases.
09:18 --> 09:20 [SPEAKER_03]: All right.
09:20 --> 09:24 [SPEAKER_03]: So we won't be recording in the theater, damn near though.
09:24 --> 09:27 [SPEAKER_02]: And as close as they'll legally allow us to write.
09:27 --> 09:27 [SPEAKER_02]: Perfect.
09:27 --> 09:28 [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
09:28 --> 09:33 [SPEAKER_02]: So folks should subscribe and then you'll keep everybody updated as to your.
09:33 --> 09:33 [SPEAKER_04]: Of course.
09:33 --> 09:34 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
09:34 --> 09:37 [SPEAKER_04]: John manages our social account.
09:38 --> 09:39 [SPEAKER_04]: Just pretty much just blue sky.
09:39 --> 09:39 [SPEAKER_04]: I think.
09:39 --> 09:39 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
09:39 --> 09:40 [SPEAKER_04]: This point.
09:40 --> 09:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
09:40 --> 09:47 [SPEAKER_04]: And yes, we will provide plenty of updates perfect setting up to the movie.
09:47 --> 09:51 [SPEAKER_02]: And we'll throw in links in the show notes for your podcast and for a blue sky as well.
09:51 --> 09:59 [SPEAKER_02]: But in the meantime, while we're waiting for December 18th to count down to you, have been covering the sci-fi mini series.
09:59 --> 10:02 [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you again for the recent guest on that.
10:02 --> 10:06 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, thank you for the invitation for episode two of that.
10:06 --> 10:12 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think today, in fact, after this, you guys are recording your episode three in mere minutes from now.
10:12 --> 10:13 [SPEAKER_03]: Excellent.
10:13 --> 10:14 [SPEAKER_03]: This way, it's perfectly.
10:16 --> 10:19 [SPEAKER_02]: And are you planning on children of Dune?
10:19 --> 10:22 [SPEAKER_02]: Frank Herbert's sci-fi children of Dune as well?
10:22 --> 10:22 [SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
10:22 --> 10:28 [SPEAKER_03]: So the way that children of Dune is laid out is episode one is Messiah.
10:28 --> 10:29 [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
10:29 --> 10:31 [SPEAKER_03]: So two and three are children.
10:31 --> 10:34 [SPEAKER_03]: So I think it would be a great disservice.
10:35 --> 10:43 [SPEAKER_03]: First of all to the to the many series if we didn't do it, but secondly, you know, just to the audience and to obviously the connection with
10:43 --> 10:48 [SPEAKER_03]: the upcoming Part 3 from Denebel new to not include those as well.
10:48 --> 10:53 [SPEAKER_03]: Plus, I want to really talk about the children of Denebel in these series.
10:53 --> 10:54 [SPEAKER_03]: It's
10:55 --> 10:58 [SPEAKER_03]: arguably better than the Dune miniseries.
10:58 --> 11:00 [SPEAKER_03]: All right, completely agree.
11:00 --> 11:01 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm just going to work with that.
11:01 --> 11:11 [SPEAKER_04]: More than I, not that I dislike the original Dune miniseries, but this is kind of a thing we get through to get to the really good one of that is.
11:11 --> 11:16 [SPEAKER_02]: And they were like two years apart from each other, if I remember in 2000 and 2003.
11:16 --> 11:17 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
11:17 --> 11:18 [SPEAKER_03]: OK.
11:18 --> 11:20 [SPEAKER_03]: There was a,
11:20 --> 11:23 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, but they basically went straight into production like for them.
11:23 --> 11:24 [SPEAKER_03]: It was straight through.
11:24 --> 11:24 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
11:24 --> 11:32 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, there's battle-sark Electrical those between them The battle-sark Electrical with I think was a five so it was right after.
11:33 --> 11:39 [SPEAKER_04]: What was the two the they did they did a different many series It was a Stephen King or not the uh
11:39 --> 11:40 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, gosh.
11:40 --> 11:41 [SPEAKER_03]: No, it was the Stephen King one.
11:41 --> 11:47 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I forget what that was called, but there are some Stephen King miniseries that that happened in 2002.
11:47 --> 11:48 [SPEAKER_04]: I believe.
11:48 --> 11:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
11:48 --> 11:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
11:49 --> 11:54 [SPEAKER_04]: That's and we're kind of was in between the Dune miniseries on the sci-fi channel.
11:54 --> 11:55 [SPEAKER_04]: Gotcha.
11:55 --> 11:56 [SPEAKER_04]: That was their big thing.
11:56 --> 12:00 [SPEAKER_04]: They they every year they released like some some kind of original.
12:00 --> 12:06 [SPEAKER_04]: Or maybe not original IP work, but some kind of original production into a mini series.
12:06 --> 12:11 [SPEAKER_04]: And I don't even know if you can call the Steven King when a mini series because it was like 20 episodes.
12:11 --> 12:13 [SPEAKER_04]: It was a full season of something.
12:14 --> 12:20 [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, just those early, early sci-fi channel mini series TV shows have a
12:20 --> 12:26 [SPEAKER_04]: a very unique look and a very unique place in my heart and I love watching them, they're just fun.
12:26 --> 12:39 [SPEAKER_02]: Is the world poor for not having a dedicated, I mean, I know the world of cable and carriage fees and streaming is all messed up, but are we poor for not having sci-fi?
12:40 --> 12:46 [SPEAKER_02]: culturally poor, because I know there's other people who are richer, you know, physically.
12:46 --> 12:48 [SPEAKER_02]: I can't speak for the world, but I can speak for me.
12:48 --> 12:48 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
12:49 --> 12:50 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I would be.
12:50 --> 12:51 [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
12:51 --> 12:53 [SPEAKER_02]: Because that's an ambitious thing to do is to take it.
12:54 --> 12:55 [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, we're going to take this IP.
12:55 --> 12:55 [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to run with it.
12:56 --> 12:57 [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to do a mini series.
12:57 --> 13:00 [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to do a extended season and just really dedicate to it.
13:00 --> 13:03 [SPEAKER_02]: Because I think the expense came out on sci-fi first, right?
13:04 --> 13:05 [SPEAKER_02]: It was sci-fi.
13:05 --> 13:07 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
13:07 --> 13:18 [SPEAKER_04]: And it's funny how we've kind of come full circle back to it because a lot of works nowadays are getting seasons long episodes of, or seasons long, you know, series of TV instead of going into a movie.
13:19 --> 13:19 [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
13:19 --> 13:22 [SPEAKER_04]: So we've kind of come a little bit full circle.
13:22 --> 13:22 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
13:22 --> 13:24 [SPEAKER_04]: And then the the the land of production.
13:25 --> 13:37 [SPEAKER_02]: So you've already kind of given us your assessment of the relative enjoyment factor between children and Dune mini-series.
13:38 --> 13:39 [SPEAKER_03]: Or I did an old opinion on that.
13:39 --> 13:40 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, your personal opinions.
13:41 --> 13:42 [SPEAKER_02]: My leg may vary.
13:42 --> 13:47 [SPEAKER_02]: And I did get to join you for the episode two of the mini-series, which was already out now.
13:47 --> 13:52 [SPEAKER_02]: I might take away from that experience,
13:52 --> 14:11 [SPEAKER_02]: was I didn't regret it not not not record I always never regret recording with you guys but I didn't regret watching the the mini series up to that point I was actually given given the budget the state of play for technology and a whole host of other sort of
14:11 --> 14:14 [SPEAKER_02]: production and interpretation factors.
14:15 --> 14:19 [SPEAKER_02]: I came away with a heck of a lot more respect because I'd never seen it before.
14:19 --> 14:21 [SPEAKER_02]: It's very hard to get.
14:21 --> 14:26 [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you again for sending me a physical DVD of it once I can of course.
14:28 --> 14:37 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, maybe I'll just click out the silence and leave in the rest of it because you're a small, a little maker was attacking some of your little sand trout.
14:37 --> 14:38 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, little sand trout.
14:39 --> 14:42 [SPEAKER_04]: Let's try to try to rate our spice store.
14:43 --> 14:46 [SPEAKER_02]: So he's more than little disc disc disc disc disc disc.
14:47 --> 15:05 [SPEAKER_02]: uh... where were we so yeah we were talking about the mini-series and that came away with that's what you're yes i came away with uh... more respect and appreciation for what they did uh... there are plenty of creative choices that i thought were interesting yeah the uh...
15:05 --> 15:24 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, there's a high variability of acting and performance and but I thought that they did a credible job of taking the important elements of the story and getting them on to television and given the technology and and displaying this future world.
15:24 --> 15:30 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they're glow globe technology, you know, a production values their craft values were amazing.
15:30 --> 16:00 [SPEAKER_03]: Perfect you mean yeah, and then there were so who is it somebody on on blue sky was like telling you like was was interacting with you guys about like yeah Here's the original props and so yes, so I have to I have to give a shout out to our goat, Dune and fo They Like this is what they do full time as they just run a whole suite of different sites whether it's you know a YouTube channel or their own website
16:01 --> 16:21 [SPEAKER_03]: They have so much information on Dune, not only just the story and everything, but also the background and the behind the scenes for Lynch, of course, for the Dune, they'll move movies and then, yeah, the sci-fi mini series.
16:21 --> 16:28 [SPEAKER_03]: so much so that they own and have sent us pictures of like the original production binders.
16:28 --> 16:44 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so much for notes for like blocking and for camera movement and things like that like the amount of stuff that they have related to this sci-fi mini series that most people have never even heard of.
16:44 --> 16:58 [SPEAKER_03]: is crazy and yeah they they sent us some really cool resources when we were that's great and started with this project and everything to kind of you're going to have them on this hotcastle with some of that context in the background.
16:59 --> 17:13 [SPEAKER_03]: I would love to you know sit down with them for an hour or so and just pick their brain and
17:13 --> 17:14 [SPEAKER_04]: We have to reach out.
17:14 --> 17:15 [SPEAKER_04]: That would be fun.
17:15 --> 17:16 [SPEAKER_02]: That would be cool.
17:16 --> 17:17 [SPEAKER_02]: I'd be really great.
17:17 --> 17:19 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm working on it.
17:20 --> 17:25 [SPEAKER_02]: So you've got episode three coming up and then you're going to do how many, how are you going to break up children?
17:25 --> 17:27 [SPEAKER_02]: Because it's three chapters as well, isn't it?
17:27 --> 17:28 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, pretty chapters.
17:28 --> 17:31 [SPEAKER_04]: So we'll keep the same, you know, one episode per episode.
17:32 --> 17:32 [SPEAKER_04]: Got it.
17:32 --> 17:34 [SPEAKER_04]: It's a question for the show.
17:34 --> 17:35 [SPEAKER_03]: With a monthly release on those.
17:36 --> 17:36 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
17:36 --> 17:42 [SPEAKER_03]: So we did episode one.
17:42 --> 17:43 [SPEAKER_03]: If I February.
17:43 --> 17:45 [SPEAKER_03]: Yep, that's smart right now.
17:45 --> 17:48 [SPEAKER_03]: And we're just going to take us to about June.
17:48 --> 17:49 [SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
17:49 --> 17:50 [SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
17:50 --> 17:54 [SPEAKER_02]: And then what are we going to do between June and who knows?
17:54 --> 17:56 [SPEAKER_04]: I think if we want to continue through the summer.
17:58 --> 18:04 [SPEAKER_04]: I think we have to we'd have to tackle the elephant in the room.
18:04 --> 18:06 [SPEAKER_03]: The one that everyone is already talked about.
18:06 --> 18:07 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, the lunch is there.
18:07 --> 18:09 [SPEAKER_04]: That's the only one we haven't talked about.
18:09 --> 18:13 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, brother, if you're talking about lunches, do an I am all over it.
18:13 --> 18:18 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to be at your house and say with my microphone, right, forcing you to record something with me.
18:18 --> 18:21 [SPEAKER_03]: Right, and we will not be doing lunches in minute, minute, minute.
18:21 --> 18:25 [SPEAKER_03]: We have no, I want to hold minute with the pug.
18:25 --> 18:30 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, I mean, the pug deserves its own minute for sure.
18:31 --> 18:32 [SPEAKER_03]: But I have this.
18:32 --> 18:33 [SPEAKER_03]: Of course.
18:33 --> 18:34 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, very cool.
18:34 --> 18:38 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, a masterpiece in disarray, David Lynch's Doon and oral history.
18:38 --> 18:40 [SPEAKER_02]: It's one of these oral history books.
18:40 --> 18:42 [SPEAKER_02]: This one's by Max Every.
18:42 --> 18:45 [SPEAKER_02]: And it's insanely well priced.
18:45 --> 18:47 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like 30 bucks.
18:47 --> 18:50 [SPEAKER_02]: And it's, I don't know, 600 pages with that as a dense book.
18:50 --> 18:54 [SPEAKER_02]: It is really so interesting to read, I've read about a
18:54 --> 18:59 [SPEAKER_02]: third of it and then I was kind of hopping around a little bit in it but it's a it's a very cool box.
18:59 --> 19:02 [SPEAKER_02]: So if anybody any doon heads out there don't have this you you need this.
19:03 --> 19:06 [SPEAKER_02]: I will have to pick up a copy because that's uh that is not a part of my collection.
19:06 --> 19:10 [SPEAKER_02]: Just gotta sit on the shelf even if it's for nothing else.
19:10 --> 19:13 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm building a bunch of bookshelves at my house right now so I'll have this space for it.
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19:39 --> 19:44 [SPEAKER_04]: I think it has aged, aged better in nostalgia.
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19:52 --> 19:59 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's talk a little bit about Dune for office C. I did a little bit of traversing the internet today.
19:59 --> 20:07 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what you guys have found or heard, but do you have any hot tidbits of what we're expecting this year?
20:07 --> 20:12 [SPEAKER_03]: All I know is that they've finished filming Principal Photography last week, a pair of last week.
20:12 --> 20:17 [SPEAKER_03]: So I expected the show to be coming out in November.
20:17 --> 20:19 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if it will.
20:20 --> 20:20 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
20:20 --> 20:23 [SPEAKER_03]: Just given how much CGI is involved with this show.
20:26 --> 20:30 [SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, if they just finished now, it's gonna be a tight schedule tonight.
20:30 --> 20:31 [SPEAKER_03]: That would be very tight.
20:31 --> 20:35 [SPEAKER_03]: But I feel like it would be something
20:35 --> 21:02 [SPEAKER_03]: they would be working on a lot of the VFX alongside the principle of photography that would be smart, you know, at least like getting daily's and stuff to kind of start, you know, some of the some of the basic work and everything because it would be a possibly possibly, possibly bad depending on how the European Union did in prophecy, a huge miss for them to not have
21:05 --> 21:12 [SPEAKER_03]: the season two of Prophecy kind of like as a part of the marketing hype train for Denise Williams part of three.
21:13 --> 21:13 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
21:13 --> 21:14 [SPEAKER_03]: It would be weird.
21:15 --> 21:15 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
21:15 --> 21:23 [SPEAKER_03]: To not necessarily since Prophecy is what was the like general public's first introduction to face dancers.
21:25 --> 21:30 [SPEAKER_03]: So I think when we sat down with you in
21:32 --> 21:33 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, was it February of 2025?
21:33 --> 21:35 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, so long ago.
21:35 --> 21:43 [SPEAKER_03]: Because, like, kind of particular to have a recap of all that.
21:43 --> 21:52 [SPEAKER_03]: I think we all came to the same agreement that prophecy is kind of the vehicle for introducing some of the more abstract things within the universe.
21:53 --> 21:56 [SPEAKER_02]: Because you have time to tell those and illuminate.
21:56 --> 21:56 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
21:57 --> 22:00 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, I would be
22:00 --> 22:06 [SPEAKER_03]: really, you know, kind of bomb dip in a part three, I almost called it Messiah.
22:06 --> 22:20 [SPEAKER_03]: And if in part three, they're just like, oh, side tails of face dancer, face dancers are people that can just change the way that they look and they take on the appearance of other people and it's just like, let's get to the point man.
22:21 --> 22:22 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, yeah.
22:22 --> 22:28 [SPEAKER_03]: So, I think it's smart using prophecy as that vehicle for all of that.
22:28 --> 22:41 [SPEAKER_02]: Right, because then you can, because there's the, the June heads who are going to know, and then they can speak to only so much of the general audience, because otherwise people will just, most people will just, oh, whatever you're weird, I'm walking away.
22:42 --> 22:51 [SPEAKER_02]: And then if there's a middle ground, a middle tier of average,
22:51 --> 22:57 [SPEAKER_02]: Echo and explain more to the non initiated, but who are still going to go see the movie?
22:57 --> 23:03 [SPEAKER_02]: then you could get that sort of, you could traverse that whole span of viewer.
23:03 --> 23:04 [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
23:04 --> 23:08 [SPEAKER_02]: So when people ask questions, they, there's information out there among the listenership, so.
23:08 --> 23:09 [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
23:09 --> 23:19 [SPEAKER_02]: And it would be weird because, because the, I mean, they're holding Dune for the Oscars, right, you know, so it gets into the thing because Timmy wants his, his little old man.
23:19 --> 23:20 [SPEAKER_03]: He wants his so bad.
23:21 --> 23:22 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
23:22 --> 23:28 [SPEAKER_02]: Didn't need you to he dropped a promotional photo like the day after the Oscars.
23:28 --> 23:29 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, something.
23:29 --> 23:31 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, I'm sorry, bro, but
23:32 --> 23:34 [SPEAKER_02]: This was not your year.
23:34 --> 23:37 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I get it, but you might go be Jordan.
23:38 --> 23:39 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I'm sorry.
23:39 --> 23:42 [SPEAKER_02]: There's a little bit of seniority action going on here.
23:42 --> 23:45 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and he's he's just not the and I have not listened to y'all's Oscar coverage.
23:45 --> 23:47 [SPEAKER_04]: I saw it pop up on my feet right there's a go and I mean, it's this on the list.
23:47 --> 23:55 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
23:55 --> 23:57 [SPEAKER_04]: It's, it's he's just, I don't think he's ready.
23:57 --> 23:59 [SPEAKER_04]: I like them, it's hell of me.
23:59 --> 24:02 [SPEAKER_04]: But he's not the person that, at least the person that he is right now.
24:02 --> 24:03 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think he's the person that they want representing.
24:04 --> 24:07 [SPEAKER_04]: This is the best of the best of our, you know, association.
24:07 --> 24:07 [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
24:08 --> 24:09 [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
24:09 --> 24:09 [SPEAKER_03]: I know a lot of time.
24:10 --> 24:15 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I know a lot of people have opinions, just some like a word shows and stuff in general, but to me, Marty Supreme just wasn't.
24:16 --> 24:19 [SPEAKER_03]: It wasn't a, oh, you know, Oscar winning movie.
24:19 --> 24:21 [SPEAKER_02]: No, I didn't, I think so either.
24:21 --> 24:23 [SPEAKER_02]: And I said as much on the other podcast.
24:23 --> 24:24 [SPEAKER_02]: It was great.
24:25 --> 24:26 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I really enjoyed it.
24:26 --> 24:42 [SPEAKER_03]: It was a good movie, but yeah, I think between it not being like an Oscar winning movie and also like all of the drama and weirdness that happened during this active brother's push for like, oh, that was just yeah, just
24:42 --> 24:44 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, he's a weird dude, right?
24:44 --> 24:46 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, he's just weird.
24:46 --> 24:56 [SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, when you say a lot of things that will inevitably piss off other people, it's not, you're not helping yourself out, but not at all.
24:56 --> 24:58 [SPEAKER_03]: You're really not.
24:58 --> 25:00 [SPEAKER_03]: Do I think eventually he will get something?
25:00 --> 25:01 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah.
25:01 --> 25:10 [SPEAKER_03]: Do I think that there are performances that he had that he probably should have been nominated for before or one before?
25:10 --> 25:11 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, absolutely.
25:11 --> 25:13 [SPEAKER_04]: The first half of Interstellar.
25:14 --> 25:15 [SPEAKER_02]: Wait, he wasn't anyway.
25:16 --> 25:18 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, he, well, this is not the time of these challenges.
25:18 --> 25:20 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he was the kid in the first half of interstellar.
25:21 --> 25:22 [SPEAKER_02]: I had no idea.
25:22 --> 25:23 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
25:23 --> 25:24 [SPEAKER_02]: I did not realize that.
25:25 --> 25:26 [SPEAKER_02]: So let's swing back to it.
25:26 --> 25:28 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's see if it's the year after we do it.
25:29 --> 25:32 [SPEAKER_02]: So I heard we're getting eight episodes instead of six this season.
25:33 --> 25:33 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, good.
25:33 --> 25:34 [SPEAKER_04]: Good.
25:34 --> 25:36 [SPEAKER_04]: They listened, I think, uh, to a lot of the feedback.
25:36 --> 25:37 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, honey.
25:37 --> 25:50 [SPEAKER_04]: It was six last time because it was, that's one thing we commented on how it felt like the compression was a little bit kneecapped a little bit because of the short time because it was it's such a rocky production history too.
25:50 --> 25:52 [SPEAKER_02]: The new was in and he was out.
25:52 --> 25:54 [SPEAKER_02]: They changed show runners.
25:54 --> 26:02 [SPEAKER_04]: They changed actors that you believe they were on during a rider strike or some yeah it was affected by rider strike as well.
26:03 --> 26:05 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah a lot of uphill battles for that show.
26:06 --> 26:10 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm, I'm remaining purposely ignorant on this season.
26:10 --> 26:11 [SPEAKER_04]: Fair enough.
26:11 --> 26:14 [SPEAKER_04]: I want to go in with knowing as little as possible about it.
26:14 --> 26:17 [SPEAKER_02]: There's very little information on story out there.
26:17 --> 26:18 [SPEAKER_02]: There's a little bit of casting news.
26:19 --> 26:21 [SPEAKER_02]: There's a little bit of production news.
26:21 --> 26:26 [SPEAKER_02]: They were in a hungry Jordan in Spain for filming supposedly eight episodes.
26:27 --> 26:34 [SPEAKER_02]: So I guess we're keeping Emily Watson and Olivia Williams,
26:35 --> 26:37 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they're both such heavy hitters, right?
26:37 --> 26:38 [SPEAKER_02]: So you can't go wrong.
26:39 --> 26:46 [SPEAKER_02]: And I guess we're adding a few more people but Allison Shrapker is staying on as the showrunner, which would give us some continuity.
26:46 --> 26:50 [SPEAKER_02]: So hopefully we'll get some more
26:51 --> 26:56 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, what's the way I want to say this, less turbulent storytelling?
26:56 --> 26:56 [SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
26:57 --> 26:57 [SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
26:58 --> 26:58 [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
26:58 --> 26:58 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
26:58 --> 26:59 [SPEAKER_04]: I know a little bit.
26:59 --> 27:04 [SPEAKER_04]: Season one, I think I know now that there's a good amount of distance from it.
27:05 --> 27:08 [SPEAKER_04]: I enjoyed it probably more than I did in the moment.
27:08 --> 27:12 [SPEAKER_04]: Now, I have yet to go back and rewatch all of it.
27:12 --> 27:22 [SPEAKER_04]: I've rewatched a couple episodes, but I thought the good job of it in explaining some of those harder to explain concepts within the Dune universe.
27:22 --> 27:23 [SPEAKER_04]: Yep.
27:24 --> 27:25 [SPEAKER_04]: And just the...
27:25 --> 27:31 [SPEAKER_04]: you know, the back story of the many Jesuits is a very complicated thing to dive into.
27:32 --> 27:34 [SPEAKER_04]: And from that perspective, I think they did a good job.
27:34 --> 27:39 [SPEAKER_04]: I think all of my complaints that I had with that first season was production complaints.
27:40 --> 27:41 [SPEAKER_04]: You know, it was not.
27:42 --> 27:45 [SPEAKER_03]: There were some bad writing moments.
27:45 --> 27:53 [SPEAKER_04]: But again, that could be contributed to that compression that we've talked about where they just had to squeeze in a bunch of stuff in six episodes.
27:54 --> 27:59 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and they were picking over the bones of previous production, right?
27:59 --> 28:03 [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, there was iterations and clarity.
28:03 --> 28:07 [SPEAKER_02]: And then when if you'll move, says he's in and then he's out and he's in and then he's out again.
28:07 --> 28:09 [SPEAKER_02]: That's got a
28:09 --> 28:20 [SPEAKER_02]: That's a lot of whiplash inside of a production like that because if he steps in and says this is my vision And then he steps out then you're like, oh, do we have to continue?
28:20 --> 28:21 [SPEAKER_02]: Just really can mess with your head.
28:21 --> 28:23 [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's a writer and this showrunner.
28:23 --> 28:36 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and I encourage everyone to go back and listen to those The coverages of our our show and then y'all show and the joint episodes that we did There's plenty of doing prophecy opinions and everything out there
28:35 --> 28:40 [SPEAKER_02]: So you're going to cover it episode episode like you do last year last season.
28:40 --> 28:41 [SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
28:41 --> 28:44 [SPEAKER_04]: We're going to try to have that same quick turnaround time that we actually.
28:45 --> 28:45 [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
28:45 --> 28:46 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
28:46 --> 28:48 [SPEAKER_02]: So you guys will you'll you'll get yours right out.
28:48 --> 28:53 [SPEAKER_02]: And then I have not spoken with Alicia directly, but I assume.
28:53 --> 29:04 [SPEAKER_02]: that we will be covering it episode to episode and we'll probably have a three or four delay, three or four day delay so that we can do a different level analysis on it.
29:04 --> 29:05 [SPEAKER_02]: So that will be great.
29:05 --> 29:10 [SPEAKER_02]: Like you can get sort of two great tastes in one for one show.
29:10 --> 29:11 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, absolutely.
29:11 --> 29:11 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
29:11 --> 29:14 [SPEAKER_02]: And then we'll we can check in with each other before after middle.
29:14 --> 29:15 [SPEAKER_02]: That kind of stuff.
29:15 --> 29:16 [SPEAKER_02]: I would be yeah.
29:16 --> 29:17 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's got to happen.
29:17 --> 29:17 [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
29:18 --> 29:23 [SPEAKER_02]: Or oh, well, you know, another thing that we do
29:23 --> 29:34 [SPEAKER_02]: Assuming that there's enough, sometimes we do a third podcast that's feedback and or lore stuff, right, where we actually get into the deeper lore thing.
29:34 --> 29:37 [SPEAKER_02]: So there could be, you know, a couple of different options the way that we do it from there.
29:37 --> 29:47 [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I have to see what they decide to cover, because we got left off with a big cliffhanger with the introduction to face dancers, so I'm excited to see where season two goes.
29:47 --> 29:53 [SPEAKER_02]: Well speaking of face dancers, let's start talking about Dune 3.
29:54 --> 30:07 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's keep it spoiler light for the moment and then because I know we've thrown around a few terms and things like that and you just can't be in the story first without some exposure to some of these ideas.
30:07 --> 30:07 [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
30:08 --> 30:15 [SPEAKER_02]: But just first blush, what did y'all think of the Dune 3 teaser trailer that they released the other day?
30:15 --> 30:18 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to have John go first on this.
30:22 --> 30:29 [SPEAKER_03]: OK. How can I talk about this and not just immediately go ranting on the spoilers?
30:30 --> 30:32 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, are you feeling positive?
30:32 --> 30:34 [SPEAKER_02]: Are you feeling confused?
30:34 --> 30:35 [SPEAKER_02]: Is it complicated?
30:35 --> 30:37 [SPEAKER_03]: I am feeling
30:39 --> 30:41 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, I'll say this.
30:41 --> 30:53 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I understand now why it's being called part three, Messiah, aside from the fact that Hollywood's afraid of saying where it's like Messiah and G-Hod and things like that.
30:54 --> 30:58 [SPEAKER_03]: Much to
30:58 --> 30:59 [SPEAKER_03]: my dismay.
31:01 --> 31:13 [SPEAKER_03]: I believe that this movie is more than just Messiah, and there will be elements of Paul of Dune brought into it, and some of Brian's.
31:13 --> 31:18 [SPEAKER_02]: Right, Frank Herbert's son, right, like the franchise afterwards and wrote a bunch of books on it.
31:18 --> 31:20 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Brian, and people had to mix reviews.
31:21 --> 31:23 [SPEAKER_04]: But we're not going to get in there, right?
31:23 --> 31:24 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't have to calm down, John.
31:24 --> 31:28 [SPEAKER_03]: Like I said, like is a brief, I just meant no.
31:28 --> 31:34 [SPEAKER_03]: But you know, in fairness to the production and everything,
31:35 --> 31:40 [SPEAKER_03]: Messiah is a lot of like as a book, it's a lot of talking and walking.
31:42 --> 31:46 [SPEAKER_03]: There's not as much, I mean, there's action of course, but it's not space opera.
31:47 --> 31:48 [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
31:48 --> 31:48 [SPEAKER_03]: It's not.
31:49 --> 32:00 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, here is the escalation of conflict on Iraqis and we can, you know, really like lean into that and go crazy with it like we did with, you know, part one and part two.
32:01 --> 32:06 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, so I understand why they would be pulling from other, from other sources and everything.
32:06 --> 32:09 [SPEAKER_03]: I have some concerns.
32:10 --> 32:10 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
32:10 --> 32:11 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, so it's complicated.
32:13 --> 32:23 [SPEAKER_03]: I am hoping and cautious, leaning on cautiously optimistic.
32:23 --> 32:24 [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
32:24 --> 32:28 [SPEAKER_04]: That's, that's where I was going to land as well.
32:29 --> 32:36 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm pretty easy to please with when it comes to media and movies, so I think it's going to be a good time.
32:36 --> 32:39 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, Villeneuve knows how to make a movie.
32:39 --> 32:40 [SPEAKER_04]: We know that's he does.
32:40 --> 32:44 [SPEAKER_04]: And the trailer, at least the shots that were included in the trailer, look beautiful.
32:45 --> 32:45 [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
32:46 --> 32:49 [SPEAKER_04]: There's a lot of, there's a lot of, um,
32:50 --> 33:00 [SPEAKER_04]: plot points that we're talked about in the trailer that I'm interested to see where they either fit in with the grander story or how they pulled from the actual books.
33:01 --> 33:04 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know the Brian Herbert lore of Dune.
33:04 --> 33:06 [SPEAKER_04]: I've not read those.
33:06 --> 33:11 [SPEAKER_04]: So if things are being pulled from Brian Herbert, I might have to pick up the book and read it to really figure it out.
33:11 --> 33:13 [SPEAKER_04]: But I
33:13 --> 33:15 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, cautiously optimistic.
33:15 --> 33:23 [SPEAKER_04]: And there are some things I did like about the trailer, which we'll talk about here a little in a little while and there's some things I didn't like about the trailer, so.
33:24 --> 33:26 [SPEAKER_04]: There are some things that left us questioning.
33:27 --> 33:28 [SPEAKER_02]: Why is this in the trailer?
33:29 --> 33:29 [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
33:29 --> 33:30 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
33:30 --> 33:32 [SPEAKER_02]: It's in the trailer, so I'm just going to say it.
33:32 --> 33:33 [SPEAKER_02]: Paraglighting.
33:34 --> 33:36 [SPEAKER_02]: We'll talk about it in a minute, but like question mark.
33:37 --> 33:37 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
33:39 --> 33:49 [SPEAKER_04]: Um, but then there's their parts that really excited me about the trailer, you know, like who, what's, what's this orange caskety thing that's moving around, you know, that's, that's interesting.
33:49 --> 33:54 [SPEAKER_04]: I think John and I have differing opinions on what that might be a lot of strong opinions on this.
33:54 --> 33:54 [SPEAKER_02]: That's great.
33:54 --> 33:55 [SPEAKER_02]: Good, good, good.
33:55 --> 33:57 [SPEAKER_02]: Because that was what I'm going to, that was going to be one of my first questions.
33:57 --> 33:59 [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, we get into spoilers about that.
33:59 --> 34:01 [SPEAKER_04]: Just as a as a gut check on it.
34:02 --> 34:03 [SPEAKER_04]: I enjoyed the trailer.
34:03 --> 34:04 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm excited.
34:04 --> 34:07 [SPEAKER_04]: It did what it was supposed to do and make me excited for the movie.
34:07 --> 34:08 [SPEAKER_02]: Picture interest.
34:08 --> 34:09 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
34:09 --> 34:11 [SPEAKER_02]: And got you looking at the calendar for.
34:11 --> 34:12 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
34:12 --> 34:13 [SPEAKER_03]: It was separate.
34:13 --> 34:14 [SPEAKER_03]: 18 that looks like.
34:14 --> 34:16 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I am counting down till this time.
34:16 --> 34:17 [SPEAKER_03]: Right there.
34:17 --> 34:18 [SPEAKER_03]: You don't give me wrong.
34:18 --> 34:21 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm very excited because you guys at day one.
34:21 --> 34:23 [SPEAKER_03]: Pre-ticket to sales?
34:24 --> 34:25 [SPEAKER_03]: Pre-ticket for sure.
34:25 --> 34:32 [SPEAKER_03]: We got very lucky to be able to see Dune Part 2 about a month before it was supposed to be released.
34:33 --> 34:40 [SPEAKER_03]: We will do everything in our power to try and see this as early as possible as well.
34:40 --> 34:51 [SPEAKER_04]: My level of access to those movie tickets continues because I saw Project Hill Mary at an advanced screening.
34:51 --> 35:06 [SPEAKER_02]: Dude, my podcast's feed was like filled up the morning after with people who'd see it and not just normal media review podcasts, but like the NPR science Friday had a thing on.
35:06 --> 35:08 [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, what's going on with this project Dale Mary.
35:08 --> 35:12 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I knew it was people were excited for it, but damn, like people are on nuts.
35:12 --> 35:14 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like a huge box office.
35:14 --> 35:15 [SPEAKER_02]: It right now.
35:15 --> 35:16 [SPEAKER_04]: I.
35:16 --> 35:27 [SPEAKER_04]: I won and encourage people to go and read the book because the book is fantastic and then the movie did the book a lot of really good, you know, did it justice so great movie too.
35:27 --> 35:31 [SPEAKER_02]: I have to to be able to see it and do it justice.
35:31 --> 35:36 [SPEAKER_02]: I have to drive about 40 minutes away one way to be able to get on a screen because I can't I love our local theater.
35:36 --> 35:37 [SPEAKER_02]: It's awesome.
35:37 --> 35:42 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a community space as much as anything but their screens are not.
35:42 --> 35:43 [SPEAKER_02]: great.
35:43 --> 36:10 [SPEAKER_02]: I saw predator badlands and it was kind of ruined the experience for me because you want if you're at that level of digital effects and all of that kind of stuff I really don't want to have my viewing experience ruined because the screen quality is kind of
36:10 --> 36:19 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I know Alicia and John or talking about some coverage for that and just sort of getting life schedules sorted out.
36:19 --> 36:22 [SPEAKER_02]: And of course, we always, you know, sometimes we're a little behind the curve, which is fine.
36:22 --> 36:25 [SPEAKER_02]: That gives us time to think and contact and play it and stuff like that.
36:25 --> 36:28 [SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah, but yeah, we definitely will have some coverage of that on Lawrence.
36:28 --> 36:29 [SPEAKER_04]: Good deal.
36:29 --> 36:33 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we're we're blessed with a number of IMAX screens here in Atlanta.
36:33 --> 36:36 [SPEAKER_04]: So,
36:36 --> 36:37 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
36:37 --> 36:43 [SPEAKER_02]: So I, too, am cautiously optimistic for the show.
36:43 --> 36:47 [SPEAKER_02]: Like I said, you know, for doing three, we'll move how it knows how to tell a story.
36:47 --> 36:49 [SPEAKER_02]: And this has been,
36:50 --> 37:00 [SPEAKER_02]: a title he's been thinking about for a long time, and I like the fact that he, because if I remember right from Dune 2, he was like, I'm going to take a break and then I'll come back to this.
37:00 --> 37:03 [SPEAKER_02]: And then at some point he's like, no, I got to get this done.
37:03 --> 37:05 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, let me let's go.
37:05 --> 37:15 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think he rearranged his schedule and brought it up in terms of production timeline, which I think is the smart thing to do both creatively and commercially.
37:16 --> 37:18 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think creatively
37:18 --> 37:27 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I can't speak to his creative process, but if you let things cool too soon, then maybe you change your point of view on things.
37:27 --> 37:34 [SPEAKER_02]: things have less important, you know, they they change the the ideas that you have change and in relative status.
37:34 --> 37:43 [SPEAKER_02]: And then just to continue to build off the commercial success of the first two movies, if we had to wait another four or five years for doing three of the relevance would have been like, huh?
37:43 --> 37:49 [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, well, it's, you know, you've got to strike while the iron's on on this and and doing two was a big success.
37:49 --> 37:55 [SPEAKER_04]: So yeah, you want to continue
37:55 --> 38:01 [SPEAKER_04]: if you want to look at something that's the opposite of that, the time between the first two seasons of severance.
38:02 --> 38:03 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's brutal.
38:03 --> 38:09 [SPEAKER_04]: It was, it was so long and you know people and myself included were like, I don't even remember what happened in the last season.
38:09 --> 38:10 [SPEAKER_04]: So cool.
38:10 --> 38:15 [SPEAKER_04]: I had to, you know, I wasn't disappointed with a rewatch, but it was every, it had completely cooled off.
38:15 --> 38:15 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, exactly.
38:16 --> 38:19 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think we're going to herbuses about to go through that too.
38:19 --> 38:21 [SPEAKER_03]: It's just going to say,
38:21 --> 38:26 [SPEAKER_02]: and as podcasts, we're like, come on, we're like drumming our fingers like hello.
38:26 --> 38:43 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, so, uh, so we're all kind of in the same place, uh, an excited, optimistic, nervous, and uh, just glad that it's it's actually getting done and it hasn't landed in a weird studio, things have sort of settled out.
38:44 --> 38:46 [SPEAKER_02]: So all of that said,
38:46 --> 38:49 [SPEAKER_02]: This is your chance now to jump out of the podcast.
38:49 --> 38:51 [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to get into full book spoilers for the trailer.
38:52 --> 38:56 [SPEAKER_02]: Again, there will be links in the show notes for June Minute podcast for your blue sky.
38:56 --> 39:08 [SPEAKER_02]: Definitely go subscribe and we will, as two different communities, we'll be interacting with each other as more doon things hit the air waves.
39:08 --> 39:16 [SPEAKER_02]: But definitely go check out the sci-fi conversations
39:16 --> 39:29 [SPEAKER_02]: for the diehard, you know, the fan-plus, right, not the, you don't have to be, you don't have to be, well, what's the, anyway, if they're cool conversations, it's a cool show, it's worth your time if you're into this kind of stuff.
39:29 --> 39:40 [SPEAKER_04]: So put it that way and, you know, we talked about the budget for the, the sci-fi many series and how small it was for the project that they were tackling, most of the budget, I think it's spent in the third episode.
39:40 --> 39:48 [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, there's a lot more CGI and explosions and action and all this kind of stuff and spoil.
39:48 --> 39:50 [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I'm not going to go for it.
39:50 --> 39:51 [SPEAKER_04]: We're fine.
39:52 --> 39:55 [SPEAKER_02]: Cool, so that's great because I haven't watched the third episode yet.
39:55 --> 40:03 [SPEAKER_02]: So when the podcast hits the internet waves, I will be ready to watch and have a podcast to go along with it.
40:03 --> 40:09 [SPEAKER_03]: So the podcast will be hitting the internet waves on the 31st, 31st March.
40:09 --> 40:09 [SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
40:10 --> 40:10 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
40:10 --> 40:10 [SPEAKER_02]: Great.
40:11 --> 40:11 [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
40:11 --> 40:12 [SPEAKER_02]: So here's your chance.
40:13 --> 40:16 [SPEAKER_02]: Hop out now if you want new spoilers.
40:21 --> 40:26 [SPEAKER_02]: And my first question for you guys is parasailing what the
40:28 --> 40:43 [SPEAKER_02]: I guess the real-en bullshit is it really is it really just be could it just be a parachute from a down door and a falter now we don't know that he was paragliding okay was paragliding so no the real question is as who's in the sarcophagus
40:44 --> 40:44 [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
40:45 --> 40:52 [SPEAKER_04]: So I'm, I'm of the, of the mine set, at least my initial gut reaction was this is the gola hate.
40:54 --> 40:54 [SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
40:54 --> 40:55 [SPEAKER_02]: Tastes in the Moa.
40:55 --> 41:04 [SPEAKER_02]: And yet somehow, Palpatine, I mean, Duncan returns in for the first of many thousands of times.
41:04 --> 41:13 [SPEAKER_04]: I know this is a creative decision and I'm sure there was written somewhere in some contract that Jason Memo had to appear in the trailer.
41:14 --> 41:15 [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
41:15 --> 41:18 [SPEAKER_04]: I think it would have been so much better if he was not in the trailer.
41:18 --> 41:20 [SPEAKER_04]: It just had to be a surprise.
41:20 --> 41:21 [SPEAKER_03]: Right, you know.
41:21 --> 41:26 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you know, for it, but it's not a surprise because he's been very like,
41:26 --> 41:30 [SPEAKER_03]: active in public on a social media about like, oh, I'm in this next dude.
41:30 --> 41:37 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but not in what capacity it could have been a flashback scenes and things like that, which is what they've done many times over.
41:38 --> 41:40 [SPEAKER_03]: No, they're they're saving the surprise for my boy, adric.
41:41 --> 41:41 [SPEAKER_03]: And yes.
41:41 --> 41:51 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, adric or, right, the adric, the guild navigator or hate the gola of Duncan Idaho.
41:51 --> 42:09 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so I have a few reasons as to why it's a trick for someone if you pause and you then just take a screenshot and you run it through a bunch of Photoshop filters, you can see this the shape of a metric and you can see the blue through the the facial field or that little field, but also even if you don't do that.
42:09 --> 42:29 [SPEAKER_03]: There's a certain look of disgust on Cytale's face when we go from the casket and then move, got a Cytale into focus or you just nod it into the shot or whatever, whatever the sequence is there.
42:30 --> 42:34 [SPEAKER_03]: And Cytale wouldn't be viewing
42:36 --> 42:58 [SPEAKER_03]: the Gola Duncan Idaho as, you know, where with the amount of disgust that he would be looking at the physical abomination of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of,
42:59 --> 43:14 [SPEAKER_03]: No, it's my RPF, it's my other path and face my voice I tell because I, uh, as I do from time to time, we watch during part one last night, what I was falling asleep because it's perfect for that.
43:15 --> 43:33 [SPEAKER_03]: that casket retains a lot of the physical, you know, similarities that we see with the representatives of the space and guild from part one during the hand-off and the official Dutch, you know, trans-abitual language of Chief Dham, you have a rackets to house a traities.
43:33 --> 43:34 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
43:34 --> 43:36 [SPEAKER_04]: I think John's right.
43:36 --> 43:39 [SPEAKER_04]: I know I was, I don't know.
43:39 --> 43:40 [SPEAKER_04]: You don't know.
43:40 --> 43:44 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm always right.
43:46 --> 43:47 [SPEAKER_04]: No, I think John's right.
43:47 --> 43:49 [SPEAKER_04]: I think it is going to be edric in there.
43:49 --> 43:54 [SPEAKER_04]: I think the question I didn't have is, is he going to stay in there?
43:56 --> 44:00 [SPEAKER_04]: Are they going to actually see physical bitores?
44:00 --> 44:04 [SPEAKER_04]: It is going to be the, we're talking to a casket or, you know, coffin though.
44:04 --> 44:05 [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
44:05 --> 44:12 [SPEAKER_03]: I hope they move him to, like, the glass cube that he normally, yeah, chills and fizzed in.
44:12 --> 44:19 [SPEAKER_04]: This was a big question of ours, you know, leading up to the movie is how are they going to portray this very central character to the next part of the story.
44:20 --> 44:21 [SPEAKER_04]: Very important character.
44:21 --> 44:22 [SPEAKER_04]: Very, very important.
44:22 --> 44:27 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think I can't see a way for them to write around the character and not include it.
44:27 --> 44:28 [SPEAKER_04]: So they have to include the character.
44:28 --> 44:32 [SPEAKER_04]: But this is a thing.
44:32 --> 44:35 [SPEAKER_04]: I think we, we stunt cast a Doug Jones.
44:35 --> 44:36 [SPEAKER_04]: I think I was our fans to cast.
44:36 --> 44:41 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because Doug Jones is like, that's just what he's right of his eyes.
44:42 --> 44:52 [SPEAKER_03]: I was thinking, in my mind, it was Abe Sapien from Hellboy, it's like the, you know, equivalent.
44:52 --> 44:56 [SPEAKER_04]: I was thinking of it at a pale man from Pan's Labyrinth.
44:56 --> 44:56 [SPEAKER_04]: Sure.
44:57 --> 45:00 [SPEAKER_02]: Right, Doug Jones was shape of water, Hellboy.
45:00 --> 45:01 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
45:01 --> 45:01 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
45:01 --> 45:12 [SPEAKER_04]: Any kind of tall, lengthy monster figure that's got a bunch of makeup on,
45:12 --> 45:21 [SPEAKER_03]: But you know, there's, there's other actors that are out there that are capable.
45:21 --> 45:24 [SPEAKER_03]: Who's the new guy that is now Chewbacca?
45:24 --> 45:26 [SPEAKER_03]: Who's like seven-foot tall or something?
45:26 --> 45:27 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
45:27 --> 45:28 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't even know there was a new Chewbacca.
45:28 --> 45:29 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, there's a new Chewbacca.
45:29 --> 45:32 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, there's a new Chewbacca.
45:32 --> 45:33 [SPEAKER_03]: So the point is, it's like,
45:34 --> 45:44 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm hoping that there is a degree of practicality for Edrick and that Edrick isn't just a tennis ball on a stick, you know, so we'll see.
45:45 --> 45:47 [SPEAKER_04]: It's kind of like how they they wrote around.
45:49 --> 45:52 [SPEAKER_04]: It was in Twin Peaks the return.
45:52 --> 45:54 [SPEAKER_04]: Sorry, yet in Twin Peaks the return.
45:55 --> 45:59 [SPEAKER_04]: They wrote around not having David Bowie in the.
46:01 --> 46:03 [SPEAKER_04]: in the production market, by just putting him in the tea kettle thing.
46:04 --> 46:04 [SPEAKER_04]: Sure.
46:05 --> 46:08 [SPEAKER_04]: And it was just like clips of his voice throughout the thing.
46:08 --> 46:16 [SPEAKER_04]: So I'm hoping that they're not taking the similar path there where they're not going to show the actual corporeal being of Eddrick.
46:16 --> 46:20 [SPEAKER_04]: It's just always going to be communicating with the coffin.
46:20 --> 46:21 [SPEAKER_03]: You cannot.
46:22 --> 46:24 [SPEAKER_03]: I'll be, I'll be so missed.
46:24 --> 46:25 [SPEAKER_03]: I'll be.
46:25 --> 46:26 [SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely, sure.
46:26 --> 46:28 [SPEAKER_04]: This is the, this is the, this is the concern dude.
46:29 --> 46:30 [SPEAKER_04]: This is one of the concern.
46:30 --> 46:44 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, we have to, um, it can't be a complete Villeneuve, reinterpretation of the June property, unless he overrites Lynch's navigator.
46:44 --> 46:47 [SPEAKER_02]: She's a nice choice.
46:47 --> 46:47 [SPEAKER_02]: I'll bring it back.
46:47 --> 46:48 [SPEAKER_02]: One to one.
46:48 --> 46:49 [SPEAKER_02]: I loved it.
46:50 --> 46:51 [SPEAKER_02]: It worked really well.
46:52 --> 46:54 [SPEAKER_04]: We're doing that prop is a good question.
46:55 --> 46:57 [SPEAKER_04]: That was an eight-inch miniature that they just filmed real close.
46:59 --> 47:01 [SPEAKER_02]: And I did know it had the moving part thing.
47:01 --> 47:05 [SPEAKER_02]: The, you know, so you're opening closing thing, where the gas was coming out of.
47:06 --> 47:07 [SPEAKER_02]: So that was great practical work.
47:08 --> 47:15 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, so it was a great, yes, that was, it was a great, absolutely, overruled.
47:17 --> 47:18 [SPEAKER_02]: On you Taylor Joy,
47:19 --> 47:21 [SPEAKER_03]: I still think it's a horrible casting.
47:21 --> 47:22 [SPEAKER_03]: Are you serious?
47:22 --> 47:23 [SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.
47:23 --> 47:25 [SPEAKER_03]: Who would you have a... Thomas and I can see.
47:26 --> 47:26 [SPEAKER_03]: Who?
47:27 --> 47:28 [SPEAKER_03]: Thomas and Mackenzie.
47:28 --> 47:29 [SPEAKER_02]: Do I know Thomas and Mackenzie?
47:29 --> 47:30 [SPEAKER_03]: It looks like.
47:30 --> 47:38 [SPEAKER_03]: So, Thomas and Mackenzie, first of all, is way more believable to be a much younger character that Halle is.
47:38 --> 47:46 [SPEAKER_03]: she also looks way more like Timothy Shalame and way more believable to be Timothy Shalame's sibling.
47:46 --> 47:49 [SPEAKER_03]: In fact, they've been siblings in a previous production.
47:49 --> 47:56 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if you've ever watched the King, but they placed sibling characters in that movie as well.
47:56 --> 47:58 [SPEAKER_03]: So there's already a history of them working together.
47:59 --> 47:59 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
48:01 --> 48:06 [SPEAKER_03]: Onyatella Joy is it's that weird
48:06 --> 48:15 [SPEAKER_03]: After school special there's a 30 something year old playing at the high school or kind of thing It takes me out of it completely.
48:15 --> 48:29 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, well, that's where my concerns with I don't have a concern With their playing all year My concerns They call her like, no, sorry let toe all year
48:29 --> 48:34 [SPEAKER_04]: where the pronunciations are, the pronunciations are just across the board here.
48:34 --> 48:35 [SPEAKER_03]: It's all over the place.
48:35 --> 48:36 [SPEAKER_03]: It's Alia and Ghanima.
48:38 --> 48:39 [SPEAKER_03]: Ghanima?
48:39 --> 48:39 [SPEAKER_03]: Ghanima.
48:40 --> 48:40 [SPEAKER_04]: Ghanima?
48:41 --> 48:41 [SPEAKER_04]: Ghanima?
48:42 --> 48:43 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
48:43 --> 48:46 [SPEAKER_02]: That way, right time, it's gonna be way, we'll be gone.
48:46 --> 48:51 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just giving up on pronunciation and if you want to add me, if somebody wants to add me on the internet, fine.
48:52 --> 49:15 [SPEAKER_04]: That's this is something that we constantly struggle with on our show is how to pronounce these different things and rip on and rip on and rip on and rip on and rip on and rip on and rip and rip on and rip on and rip on and rip on and rip on and rip on and rip on and rip on and rip on and rip on and rip on and rip on and rip on and rip on and rip on and rip on and rip on and rip on and rip on and rip on and rip on and rip on and rip on and rip on and rip on and rip on and rip on and rip on and rip on and rip on and rip on and rip on and rip on and rip on and rip on and rip on and rip on and rip on and rip on and rip on and rip on and rip on and rip on and rip on and rip on and rip on and rip on and rip on and rip on and
49:15 --> 49:17 [SPEAKER_04]: What are we doing 17 years in years?
49:17 --> 49:18 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
49:19 --> 49:19 [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
49:19 --> 49:25 [SPEAKER_04]: So Timothy Schale may still looks like he's, you know, it is 20s and so does Alia here.
49:26 --> 49:30 [SPEAKER_04]: And I think that they're going to lean on this.
49:30 --> 49:32 [SPEAKER_04]: spice works wonders.
49:32 --> 49:33 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
49:33 --> 49:35 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah, it's an anti, yeah, a geriatric, right?
49:35 --> 49:37 [SPEAKER_02]: So sure.
49:37 --> 49:39 [SPEAKER_02]: So it made all you grow up faster.
49:39 --> 49:42 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I did the opposite of what it does for everybody else.
49:42 --> 49:43 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
49:43 --> 49:48 [SPEAKER_04]: It's, it is their cure all, um, well, device, it's nice, like.
49:49 --> 49:51 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's magic dust.
49:51 --> 49:51 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
49:51 --> 49:52 [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
49:52 --> 50:01 [SPEAKER_04]: And then there's we we already had we had casting for the young Trady's kids a while back, didn't we?
50:02 --> 50:10 [SPEAKER_03]: You mean like our own or the or the actual like the actual casting was was announced last year.
50:10 --> 50:15 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so I presume that we're going to get later the second the second.
50:15 --> 50:20 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean we are getting later the second the second because it's the napo baby Jason was kid.
50:21 --> 50:23 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's my first roll ever.
50:23 --> 50:24 [SPEAKER_03]: It's like bro chill out.
50:25 --> 50:25 [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
50:25 --> 50:42 [SPEAKER_03]: And then, Ghanima is being played by, I do not remember the name, but it is the young girl that plays the younger version of Shirley from, um, silo.
50:43 --> 50:43 [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
50:44 --> 50:44 [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
50:45 --> 50:45 [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
50:45 --> 50:45 [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
50:45 --> 50:46 [SPEAKER_04]: That's right.
50:46 --> 50:48 [SPEAKER_04]: See
50:48 --> 50:54 [SPEAKER_04]: So she had been in like a few other things, but so okay, so but we're going to get we're going to get the kids in there as well.
50:55 --> 50:59 [SPEAKER_04]: So it's I don't know that I feel like the timelines are going to be all right.
50:59 --> 51:03 [SPEAKER_02]: I think we have to we have to let go of the book timelines.
51:03 --> 51:07 [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm yeah I'm going to give a caveat on that one.
51:07 --> 51:15 [SPEAKER_03]: I think they're taking some they're going to take some notes out of the children of Dean sci-fi mini series where in.
51:15 --> 51:19 [SPEAKER_03]: the first episode of that many series.
51:19 --> 51:24 [SPEAKER_03]: There are some weird flash forwards with Paul's prescience.
51:24 --> 51:24 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
51:24 --> 51:29 [SPEAKER_03]: Seeing a grown-up later the second, the second, and Ghanima.
51:30 --> 51:39 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think this is necessarily like full sending into parts of children, but I think it'll be, you know, a flash forward sequence.
51:39 --> 51:39 [SPEAKER_03]: Gotcha.
51:39 --> 51:41 [SPEAKER_03]: I'll seize his children.
51:41 --> 51:42 [SPEAKER_02]: Will.
51:42 --> 51:47 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's a creative choice that I had a little bit of difficulty with Villeneuve.
51:48 --> 51:50 [SPEAKER_02]: in the first two movies.
51:50 --> 51:56 [SPEAKER_02]: And again, I respect the fact that he is cognizant of his own choices.
51:58 --> 52:03 [SPEAKER_02]: That he is he understands the work and he understands a lot of what's going on.
52:03 --> 52:15 [SPEAKER_02]: And if he's doing something or not doing something that he's doing that based on an informed choice as a movie maker, not as a faithful adaptation to screen, right, but he's trying to make his movie.
52:16 --> 52:25 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's the thing with when you're doing a creative reinterpretation, you need to have your point of view and you need to bring what you're bringing to the table, that's valid.
52:25 --> 52:26 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's important.
52:26 --> 52:31 [SPEAKER_02]: As long as you're upfront and clear about that, this is my choice.
52:31 --> 52:35 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and he's consistent with his, with exactly his and everything.
52:35 --> 52:39 [SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, I can't give him, you know, too much, too much flag for that.
52:40 --> 52:45 [SPEAKER_03]: There are just choices that are made that we have seen historically, especially with part two of that.
52:46 --> 52:49 [SPEAKER_03]: I sit there and I'm like, yeah, okay, I get it.
52:50 --> 52:59 [SPEAKER_03]: You're saying that this is a Benny Jesuit story, but also like, dude, what the fuck?
53:00 --> 53:09 [SPEAKER_02]: Not objecting to, but a choice that I don't, it's not about a good degree or disagree, but for me, one of the things that's missing is Paul's Presience.
53:10 --> 53:13 [SPEAKER_02]: And the trap that Presience is.
53:14 --> 53:18 [SPEAKER_02]: And this whole idea, oh, well, we shouldn't place our trust in these leaders.
53:18 --> 53:20 [SPEAKER_02]: They're all human, they're all flawed.
53:20 --> 53:24 [SPEAKER_02]: We have some recent news about that with a particular, uh, don't listen.
53:24 --> 53:26 [SPEAKER_02]: It may start.
53:26 --> 53:28 [SPEAKER_02]: And, um,
53:29 --> 53:42 [SPEAKER_02]: that the thing with Paul is that he sees humanity's fate is on the line, he sees one pathway out and he's trapped by that, right?
53:42 --> 53:43 [SPEAKER_02]: And we don't get a lot about it.
53:43 --> 53:53 [SPEAKER_02]: It's just like, oh, he's a he's an imported hero, the Benning Jesuit, messed with her culture and beware of, you know, beware of charismatic leaders.
53:53 --> 53:54 [SPEAKER_02]: That's all fair and good.
53:54 --> 53:56 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's an important part of
53:57 --> 53:59 [SPEAKER_02]: When Herbert wrote that book,
53:59 --> 54:02 [SPEAKER_02]: He was like, y'all think I'm starting a cult?
54:02 --> 54:02 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not.
54:04 --> 54:05 [SPEAKER_02]: So, like, let me try to correct it.
54:05 --> 54:08 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, let me try to, like, set some stuff up here.
54:08 --> 54:27 [SPEAKER_03]: And so, sorry to, like, DBA away from part three, but damn, if there's one thing that the sci-fi of many series does well, it is that exploration of Paul's prescience and the flaws of putting faith into these charismatic leaders and everything.
54:27 --> 54:28 [SPEAKER_03]: So, like, yeah.
54:28 --> 54:31 [SPEAKER_03]: genuinely to to the Laura Hound's audience.
54:31 --> 54:41 [SPEAKER_03]: If you guys are looking for in I think both Zach and my, you know, opinions, the best interpretation of Dune in the most faithful.
54:42 --> 54:44 [SPEAKER_03]: It is the sci-fi many series.
54:44 --> 54:44 [SPEAKER_03]: I agree.
54:44 --> 54:48 [SPEAKER_03]: You can get a blue ray of it on Amazon for 20 bucks.
54:49 --> 54:49 [SPEAKER_02]: Nice.
54:50 --> 54:53 [SPEAKER_02]: And then you got to get a blue ray player for another.
54:53 --> 55:01 [SPEAKER_03]: It's not lost media is the point, right, right, right, right, right, it's available.
55:02 --> 55:04 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah.
55:04 --> 55:04 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
55:04 --> 55:08 [SPEAKER_04]: Paul Martians has been left out of the story in in large degree.
55:08 --> 55:11 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it was barely touched on in part two.
55:11 --> 55:12 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
55:13 --> 55:21 [SPEAKER_04]: So we see a lot of the, like in the trailer, we see a lot of war scenes, a lot of fighting, which we don't get in the book, which is interesting.
55:21 --> 55:22 [SPEAKER_02]: Like we're actually in its embattles.
55:22 --> 55:23 [SPEAKER_02]: That's cool.
55:23 --> 55:27 [SPEAKER_04]: So that could either be pulling from the Brian story, which I think it is.
55:27 --> 55:28 [SPEAKER_04]: That's the Paul of Dune.
55:28 --> 55:34 [SPEAKER_04]: Or it, those could possibly be folded into some prescience.
55:35 --> 55:42 [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe you're going to start leaning, finally heavy into, hey Paul, actually it has the ability to,
55:42 --> 55:50 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, they're going to have to, though, because with the whole stone burner thing, which by the way, like, was that the stone burner in the trailer?
55:50 --> 55:52 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, because that's what I was reading.
55:52 --> 55:54 [SPEAKER_02]: I wanted to talk to that was the next thing I wanted to talk about.
55:55 --> 55:58 [SPEAKER_02]: I just wanted to put a bow on the, on your Taylor Joey casting.
55:58 --> 56:03 [SPEAKER_02]: Really quick, as you said, amazing actor.
56:04 --> 56:09 [SPEAKER_02]: And it fits, though, for what Villeneuve is doing with his casting choices.
56:09 --> 56:24 [SPEAKER_02]: These are all movie stars that he's putting into his, you know, last I do Florence Pue, a day of patents in Berlin, Mamoa, Ferguson, can't forget Ferguson, can't forget Bardem, right?
56:24 --> 56:25 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, he's an ugly guy.
56:26 --> 56:30 [SPEAKER_02]: These are all freaking big, huge movie star names.
56:30 --> 56:37 [SPEAKER_02]: And so whoever he's going to cast as Alia has got to be swinging that A list.
56:37 --> 56:41 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, except the big movie star names except for later the second and then Ghanima.
56:42 --> 56:42 [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
56:42 --> 56:43 [SPEAKER_02]: And those are kids.
56:43 --> 56:46 [SPEAKER_02]: So how are you going to have a, you know, it's true.
56:46 --> 56:48 [SPEAKER_02]: I'd have broke, I believe, this her name.
56:48 --> 56:48 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
56:49 --> 56:50 [SPEAKER_02]: Two's great and sila.
56:51 --> 56:51 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, cool.
56:52 --> 56:52 [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
56:52 --> 56:56 [SPEAKER_02]: So let's, yeah, let's talk about,
56:56 --> 56:57 [SPEAKER_02]: stone burner stone burner.
57:00 --> 57:05 [SPEAKER_03]: So I think we see I think we see a stone burner and I think we do and I have the big flash with a big light flight flash.
57:05 --> 57:06 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, no, no, no, no, no, no.
57:06 --> 57:15 [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, oh, you think we see it, but there's the, there's the big thing that still got and some other fremen are running with.
57:15 --> 57:20 [SPEAKER_03]: That looks like it's like a big like like a big Pelican case thing.
57:20 --> 57:29 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I think that will be the introduction with the stun burner Right because you got to do a set up for the technology for the show, right?
57:29 --> 57:30 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, oh god.
57:30 --> 57:35 [SPEAKER_03]: And what am I blanking on who is it whose kid gets killed by the stun burner?
57:35 --> 57:39 [SPEAKER_04]: It's been so long for a No, I haven't read them.
57:39 --> 57:40 [SPEAKER_04]: I need to do a reread.
57:40 --> 57:41 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, this podcast is over.
57:41 --> 57:44 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm disgusted at your eyes as level of retention is just not up.
57:44 --> 57:51 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, it's been a minute since I've read Messiah.
57:51 --> 58:09 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, I was thinking about this morning when I was watching the trailer again before we're jumping on as like oh, it's been a while And while I watched a couple of videos like went on to the tubes and and watched a couple of analysis videos and there are some characterizations out there that I'm like y'all say you know what you're talking about, but
58:11 --> 58:14 [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I'm doing some, I don't know what to do this.
58:14 --> 58:17 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm doing some home construction in the moment, but I'm listening.
58:17 --> 58:18 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm getting rough.
58:18 --> 58:19 [SPEAKER_03]: Sorry, for not for fun.
58:20 --> 58:20 [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you.
58:20 --> 58:20 [SPEAKER_03]: Got it.
58:21 --> 58:23 [SPEAKER_04]: I have a lot of time with my audio books right now.
58:23 --> 58:27 [SPEAKER_04]: So I think I'm going to start my site as an audio book because I've read it physically a couple of times.
58:28 --> 58:30 [SPEAKER_04]: So I feel like an audio book will be fine just to brush up.
58:30 --> 58:34 [SPEAKER_02]: If you've got a good choice for that, let me know because that's actually a good way for me to do it, too.
58:34 --> 58:39 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it'll be whatever audible, not sponsored content, whatever audible offers.
58:39 --> 58:39 [SPEAKER_02]: It's okay.
58:40 --> 58:41 [SPEAKER_02]: There you go.
58:41 --> 58:41 [SPEAKER_02]: Cool.
58:41 --> 58:42 [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
58:42 --> 58:55 [SPEAKER_02]: So still, but I think we're totally do show murder because we get the whole, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, he's standing up on the diasthing and he's sort of looking down and sort of with a vacant, stare on his face.
58:55 --> 58:57 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but his eyes aren't all fucked up.
58:57 --> 59:00 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, they could have just edited that for the, for the, for the true.
59:00 --> 59:00 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
59:01 --> 59:01 [SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
59:01 --> 59:07 [SPEAKER_02]: But, but I think that would be an interesting creative choice because it
59:07 --> 59:09 [SPEAKER_02]: You want to hold, come on, you can't mess up Timmy's face.
59:10 --> 59:12 [SPEAKER_02]: That's an Oscar-winning face, bro.
59:12 --> 59:17 [SPEAKER_02]: But the picture that Timothy shall make himself post has a burned face.
59:17 --> 59:17 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
59:18 --> 59:18 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
59:19 --> 59:21 [SPEAKER_02]: But I think it would be creepy with the eye.
59:21 --> 59:30 [SPEAKER_02]: So if you still have the eyes of the abode there, you know, when blue staring at you, but with that vacant stare, I think that's, that's a, I don't mind that creative choice.
59:30 --> 59:32 [SPEAKER_03]: I think I think you do something with the eyes.
59:33 --> 59:36 [SPEAKER_03]: Because otherwise it looks too normal.
59:38 --> 59:43 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, in all of the times, the social media is now Paul's eyes, and I think that's a really cool.
59:43 --> 59:57 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but you know, oftentimes promotional media is, I mean, if you look at, if you think about like the original alien, it's an actual egg, you know, way back then.
59:57 --> 01:00:01 [SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah, you know, sometimes they, then that was for other reasons, but,
01:00:01 --> 01:00:03 [SPEAKER_02]: The fact is that traditional media is from a traditional media.
01:00:04 --> 01:00:09 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, trailers get added in the actual special version of, you know, whatever the actual shot is.
01:00:09 --> 01:00:15 [SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, I'm going to still hold final reservation and judgment until we actually see it.
01:00:15 --> 01:00:26 [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, I'm really hoping that they lean into the fact that like Paul gets absolutely just messed up by the stone burner and they need to like show that, right?
01:00:26 --> 01:00:27 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
01:00:27 --> 01:00:35 [SPEAKER_04]: Well, and I guess that leads into another question that I had was how much of the preacher are we going to get in this movie?
01:00:35 --> 01:00:36 [SPEAKER_04]: None.
01:00:36 --> 01:00:37 [SPEAKER_04]: You don't think any?
01:00:37 --> 01:00:38 [SPEAKER_04]: No.
01:00:38 --> 01:00:39 [SPEAKER_03]: No, I think that would be too.
01:00:39 --> 01:00:44 [SPEAKER_03]: The preacher is so firmly a children of doing thing.
01:00:44 --> 01:00:47 [SPEAKER_03]: The kind of Messiah is Paul going to the desert on his own.
01:00:47 --> 01:00:49 [SPEAKER_04]: You think that's just where they're going to leave it off of.
01:00:49 --> 01:00:49 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, okay.
01:00:50 --> 01:00:53 [SPEAKER_04]: Well, well, they kill him off in the end.
01:00:53 --> 01:00:56 [SPEAKER_04]: I know this is
01:00:56 --> 01:00:56 [SPEAKER_04]: why wouldn't they?
01:00:56 --> 01:01:00 [SPEAKER_03]: If they're not planning on continuing the story, just wrap this up.
01:01:00 --> 01:01:13 [SPEAKER_03]: I think that would, no, I think that would just kind of lessen the impact of the real question is the end because Messiah is all about Paul losing control and losing his empire.
01:01:13 --> 01:01:18 [SPEAKER_03]: And I think it's more, I think it's more disgraceful for Paul to
01:01:18 --> 01:01:21 [SPEAKER_03]: exile himself rather than to just die.
01:01:21 --> 01:01:25 [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's the interesting question is how are they going to wrap this up?
01:01:25 --> 01:01:31 [SPEAKER_03]: Because also Paul has to live because he, you know, sees through Lato's eyes to kill Cytale.
01:01:31 --> 01:01:32 [SPEAKER_03]: So what are you going to do?
01:01:32 --> 01:01:35 [SPEAKER_03]: Have Paul successfully see through Lato's eyes.
01:01:36 --> 01:01:39 [SPEAKER_03]: Realize that he is incapable of leading down the golden path.
01:01:39 --> 01:01:42 [SPEAKER_03]: And then I don't know a job.
01:01:44 --> 01:01:45 [SPEAKER_03]: anything.
01:01:46 --> 01:01:47 [SPEAKER_02]: We're in the deep desert now.
01:01:47 --> 01:01:49 [SPEAKER_02]: We're well south of the equator line here.
01:01:50 --> 01:01:56 [SPEAKER_03]: No, I think I think, you know, they have Paul walk out into the desert and then
01:01:57 --> 01:02:08 [SPEAKER_03]: If Warner Brothers or whoever buys Warner Brothers decides to continue on with the, they just find a new director to do children, but Frank, we don't see the god emperor.
01:02:08 --> 01:02:08 [SPEAKER_02]: That's it.
01:02:08 --> 01:02:09 [SPEAKER_02]: That's it.
01:02:09 --> 01:02:17 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think they're going to because it's not going to be done to enable new and right, but are we going to see the worm.
01:02:17 --> 01:02:23 [SPEAKER_03]: I would love to see the worm, but I think in fact, James McAvoy to play the worm.
01:02:23 --> 01:02:24 [SPEAKER_03]: There you go.
01:02:24 --> 01:02:25 [SPEAKER_03]: No, like genuinely.
01:02:25 --> 01:02:28 [SPEAKER_04]: Though the other mini series call back.
01:02:28 --> 01:02:35 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, if you're going to do God Emperor of Dune, it has to be in many series, because you can't tell 3 years of story in a two-hour film.
01:02:36 --> 01:02:37 [SPEAKER_02]: a little hard, a little hard.
01:02:37 --> 01:02:42 [SPEAKER_02]: So, I think we do get some Jason Mamoa, Steely, metalized, though, too.
01:02:42 --> 01:02:52 [SPEAKER_04]: We do, and I still not a huge fan of him being included in the trailer, excited to see Hate come back in the Dunkin' Idaho, Gola.
01:02:52 --> 01:02:53 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I see it.
01:02:54 --> 01:02:57 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, there was a lot of great Reddit stuff that people do in a Palpatine.
01:02:57 --> 01:03:01 [SPEAKER_02]: And yet, somehow, of course, Dunkin' Returns.
01:03:01 --> 01:03:04 [SPEAKER_03]: Dunkin' is, this one has a,
01:03:05 --> 01:03:12 [SPEAKER_04]: At least this one has a reason, and that could not just say somehow he returned, but actually there's a difficult reason.
01:03:13 --> 01:03:30 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and it's an actual plot device mechanic and how are they going to, yeah, and this whole idea of which is what's something that Benny Cesare's storylines built in as well as with the Gola, which is how much of our
01:03:31 --> 01:03:50 [SPEAKER_02]: Memory and experience is carried in some sort of physical manifestation of our bodies of our DNA, generationally speaking, and this idea that the body knows stuff and playing with those concepts is cool.
01:03:50 --> 01:03:51 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's a really cool part of the story.
01:03:52 --> 01:03:54 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think it would, it will work.
01:03:54 --> 01:04:00 [SPEAKER_02]: Again, we're talking about prophecy in the many Jesuit and awakening and being in communication with your ancestors.
01:04:01 --> 01:04:01 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
01:04:02 --> 01:04:08 [SPEAKER_02]: And then having some sort of power word to flip Duncan's switch.
01:04:08 --> 01:04:09 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
01:04:09 --> 01:04:11 [SPEAKER_04]: Can I place a bet with you all?
01:04:11 --> 01:04:11 [SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
01:04:11 --> 01:04:12 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:04:12 --> 01:04:12 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's go.
01:04:13 --> 01:04:14 [SPEAKER_02]: What's the wager?
01:04:14 --> 01:04:15 [SPEAKER_02]: What's the wager?
01:04:15 --> 01:04:17 [SPEAKER_02]: What's the wager?
01:04:17 --> 01:04:17 [SPEAKER_02]: $1.
01:04:17 --> 01:04:17 [SPEAKER_02]: $1.
01:04:19 --> 01:04:22 [SPEAKER_04]: I'll do a Venmo to you, David.
01:04:23 --> 01:04:29 [SPEAKER_04]: Um, I think that they are going to introduce the concept of goal is in prophecy first.
01:04:30 --> 01:04:32 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I can't cannot not going to not take that bet.
01:04:33 --> 01:04:33 [SPEAKER_02]: That's a good bet.
01:04:33 --> 01:04:35 [SPEAKER_03]: I think if it, I think it has to happen.
01:04:35 --> 01:04:43 [SPEAKER_02]: If prophecy comes out, I think they're going to be to bust in their little behind to get it out.
01:04:43 --> 01:04:46 [SPEAKER_02]: It would be, it would be smart for them to get it out.
01:04:46 --> 01:04:47 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:04:47 --> 01:04:49 [SPEAKER_02]: I think strategic could safe bet.
01:04:49 --> 01:04:49 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:04:51 --> 01:04:54 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, I would rather bet on like the worm or something like that.
01:04:54 --> 01:04:55 [SPEAKER_02]: The golden past.
01:04:56 --> 01:04:56 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, fair.
01:04:56 --> 01:04:56 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:04:57 --> 01:04:59 [SPEAKER_03]: And you can always bet on the golden past.
01:04:59 --> 01:05:01 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's right.
01:05:02 --> 01:05:03 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, cool.
01:05:04 --> 01:05:09 [SPEAKER_02]: Any other thoughts or feelings about the trailer that we want to have many thoughts and feelings?
01:05:09 --> 01:05:10 [SPEAKER_03]: Of course, we really go into it.
01:05:11 --> 01:05:12 [SPEAKER_03]: This is going to be a five hour episode.
01:05:12 --> 01:05:13 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:05:13 --> 01:05:15 [SPEAKER_03]: And you guys have another recording to jump on.
01:05:15 --> 01:05:19 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we have a whole hour and a half more of you just spend what each other.
01:05:19 --> 01:05:20 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
01:05:20 --> 01:05:23 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, no, we're probably going to be, I mean, who knows how long it's going to be.
01:05:23 --> 01:05:24 [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah.
01:05:24 --> 01:05:26 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
01:05:26 --> 01:05:27 [SPEAKER_04]: Gosh.
01:05:28 --> 01:05:28 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm excited.
01:05:28 --> 01:05:30 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I am excited for the movie.
01:05:31 --> 01:05:37 [SPEAKER_04]: And I, you know, December should come at the appropriate speed, but I'm excited for it to get here.
01:05:37 --> 01:05:39 [SPEAKER_04]: Cool.
01:05:39 --> 01:05:39 [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
01:05:40 --> 01:05:42 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, until then, check out the links.
01:05:42 --> 01:05:46 [SPEAKER_02]: As you know, I forgot to do something earlier, too, which is
01:05:47 --> 01:06:06 [SPEAKER_02]: that john you were on an episode of the pit with us was yeah with Ian from the captain's spot we had a lot of fun talking about that as well and then john and my john from Lauraounds and I are about to record episode 11 podcast later today and f that episode.
01:06:06 --> 01:06:10 [SPEAKER_02]: Bro, that episode was like rough, that was hard.
01:06:10 --> 01:06:12 [SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
01:06:12 --> 01:06:13 [SPEAKER_02]: Really mad.
01:06:15 --> 01:06:15 [SPEAKER_02]: Really mad.
01:06:16 --> 01:06:17 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, still loving the season.
01:06:17 --> 01:06:19 [SPEAKER_02]: But like, boom, you guys.
01:06:20 --> 01:06:29 [SPEAKER_02]: And then the other things, Zach, is that you and Ian from the captain's bottom eye are all talking about a 60-year of Star Trek project idea.
01:06:29 --> 01:06:31 [SPEAKER_02]: We're still kicking the soccer ball around.
01:06:31 --> 01:06:31 [SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
01:06:31 --> 01:06:33 [SPEAKER_02]: There's still kick on a trick.
01:06:33 --> 01:06:34 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:06:34 --> 01:06:38 [SPEAKER_04]: was it still playing Parisi squares around, uh, exactly.
01:06:38 --> 01:06:40 [SPEAKER_02]: What was the, um, your nerd?
01:06:41 --> 01:06:43 [SPEAKER_02]: What was, was that no shoot?
01:06:44 --> 01:06:48 [SPEAKER_02]: What was the one that the in next generation where they had the little, uh, headset?
01:06:48 --> 01:06:49 [SPEAKER_02]: The visor thing that were there.
01:06:49 --> 01:06:51 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it was the volume, the lights in the ear.
01:06:51 --> 01:06:55 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know how the role was called, but it was, uh, it was, yeah, the VR headset.
01:06:56 --> 01:06:59 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, it'd write your figure out a way to have sex with them.
01:06:59 --> 01:07:01 [SPEAKER_02]: Of course, you know he did.
01:07:01 --> 01:07:03 [SPEAKER_02]: No, we could've seen he did.
01:07:03 --> 01:07:09 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, he goes, oh, oh, yeah, that's okay.
01:07:09 --> 01:07:10 [SPEAKER_02]: So we're definitely not going down that track.
01:07:11 --> 01:07:16 [SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, you, me and Ian are talking, and so stay tuned for a lot of good ideas, tossed around on that channel.
01:07:17 --> 01:07:19 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I'm excited to get together with y'all.
01:07:19 --> 01:07:24 [SPEAKER_04]: And just talking about some old track, leading up to 60 years of it.
01:07:24 --> 01:07:27 [SPEAKER_03]: And I think Ian had the right idea, which was to a lot of about doom.
01:07:27 --> 01:07:28 [SPEAKER_03]: What's that?
01:07:28 --> 01:07:41 [SPEAKER_02]: I said, if you think Zack can talk a lot about it, that's why we're in community with each other because you guys are like me and I'm like you and Ian and everybody else who listens to this podcast so.
01:07:43 --> 01:07:52 [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I think Ian had the right idea which is to center it on television, even though we've got some some key movie and adversaries which will definitely sort of
01:07:52 --> 01:07:58 [SPEAKER_02]: work in there, but yeah, this is the 60th anniversary of the original series going live.
01:07:58 --> 01:07:59 [SPEAKER_02]: I believe it's September 8th.
01:08:00 --> 01:08:04 [SPEAKER_02]: Yep, it's a Star Trek day, and then another shout out to our good friend Ayisha.
01:08:04 --> 01:08:07 [SPEAKER_02]: who runs the every single sci-fi film ever podcast.
01:08:07 --> 01:08:15 [SPEAKER_02]: She's actually moderating a panel at the Science Museum in London, coming up for Star Trek related stuff.
01:08:15 --> 01:08:18 [SPEAKER_02]: And they've got a big Star Trek display going on, and all that kind of stuff.
01:08:18 --> 01:08:24 [SPEAKER_02]: And she's grinding her way through all of you, was it 79 episodes of the original series?
01:08:24 --> 01:08:25 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm so like that, yeah.
01:08:25 --> 01:08:27 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so she's going to have some content about that.
01:08:27 --> 01:08:29 [SPEAKER_02]: So check out every single sci-fi film ever.
01:08:30 --> 01:08:33 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm so excited to go to London.
01:08:34 --> 01:08:36 [SPEAKER_02]: I was just at the McColley, oh, what is it?
01:08:39 --> 01:08:47 [SPEAKER_02]: There's a science museum in New Hampshire and they had a Star Trek uniform from the motion picture.
01:08:48 --> 01:08:50 [SPEAKER_02]: And some chairs from the next generation.
01:08:50 --> 01:08:52 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, okay, that's got a weird, but anyway.
01:08:52 --> 01:08:56 [SPEAKER_02]: And this sort of forgotten Dusty Corner of the beat scene.
01:08:56 --> 01:08:57 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, oh, this is sad.
01:08:57 --> 01:08:58 [SPEAKER_02]: Anyway.
01:08:58 --> 01:08:59 [SPEAKER_02]: That's neither here nor there.
01:09:00 --> 01:09:01 [SPEAKER_02]: So we should get out of here.
01:09:01 --> 01:09:04 [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you guys so much for doing this.
01:09:05 --> 01:09:09 [SPEAKER_02]: Everybody go check out their your due-minute coverage of the sci-fi miniseries.
01:09:10 --> 01:09:14 [SPEAKER_04]: Yep, and more to come on that as we work our way through it.
01:09:14 --> 01:09:16 [SPEAKER_04]: And thanks for having us on David.
01:09:16 --> 01:09:17 [SPEAKER_04]: It's been always a pleasure.
01:09:18 --> 01:09:18 [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
01:09:19 --> 01:09:20 [SPEAKER_02]: And we'll be in touch.
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