The Acolyte S1 wrap-up gameshow

[00:00:19] [SPEAKER_07]: Welcome to The Lorehounds and To The Cannon Patawan Supercast.

[00:00:24] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm Alicia, and I'm your host today for the officially unofficial Best Acrolyte Wrap-up podcast

[00:00:30] [SPEAKER_07]: game show you'll ever hear for as long as you're listening to this episode.

[00:00:34] [SPEAKER_07]: For the record, this episode is recorded July 23, 2024, and for this episode, all Star Wars

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[00:00:44] [SPEAKER_07]: Movies, TV, live action, or animated, books, comics, and anything else you can think of.

[00:00:50] [SPEAKER_07]: You're welcome, slash I'm sorry.

[00:00:52] [SPEAKER_07]: Spoilers incoming.

[00:00:53] [SPEAKER_07]: So, and stay tuned until the end for more info on what Star Wars and other content

[00:00:58] [SPEAKER_07]: is coming up at a Lore founder opportunity that's closing in a few days after this

[00:01:03] [SPEAKER_07]: drops.

[00:01:04] [SPEAKER_07]: So, we've got a full house today.

[00:01:06] [SPEAKER_07]: There's four of us here on the mic with one more waiting for a special round-to-game

[00:01:11] [SPEAKER_07]: twist.

[00:01:12] [SPEAKER_07]: We've got John here of course, hello.

[00:01:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Hello, I'm still here and as always, tickled by all of your game show antics.

[00:01:22] [SPEAKER_07]: And David is the fifth voice waiting in the wings.

[00:01:24] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm sure you'll hear from him later this episode.

[00:01:27] [SPEAKER_07]: But let me start by checking in with two voices you've heard from in feedback about the

[00:01:31] [SPEAKER_07]: acolyte, but now that I have you here, hello, Marilyn and Joan.

[00:01:35] [SPEAKER_07]: Hello, hello, Alicia.

[00:01:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Hello, hello, hello, thanks for having us.

[00:01:39] [SPEAKER_05]: Thank you so much.

[00:01:40] [SPEAKER_05]: This is a new thing for me.

[00:01:42] [SPEAKER_05]: So it's very exciting.

[00:01:43] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm excited to have you both here.

[00:01:46] [SPEAKER_07]: John, let's start with you.

[00:01:47] [SPEAKER_07]: What did you think of this first season of the acolyte overall?

[00:01:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I absolutely love the, I thought it was great.

[00:01:55] [SPEAKER_03]: There's, you know, I get caught up in the action, like I caught up in the story, I got

[00:02:03] [SPEAKER_03]: caught up in everything that I had to do with how the force is being used and not used.

[00:02:11] [SPEAKER_03]: I just thought it was great.

[00:02:13] [SPEAKER_03]: I really like the focus on other ways other than the Jedi.

[00:02:19] [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's a really great thing to focus on and try to get to because the Jedi,

[00:02:27] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, only for us users in the universe.

[00:02:29] [SPEAKER_03]: And it's interesting to see how other people might view it.

[00:02:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely love, Kymer.

[00:02:38] [SPEAKER_07]: Right, great, great.

[00:02:39] [SPEAKER_03]: He's a great villain in that owes a lot to Jason.

[00:02:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Because he did a tremendous job.

[00:02:49] [SPEAKER_03]: He did a tremendous job.

[00:02:50] [SPEAKER_04]: We Jason, yes, Jason.

[00:02:53] [SPEAKER_04]: This is the first one.

[00:02:55] [SPEAKER_04]: This is the first one.

[00:02:56] [SPEAKER_04]: We're using Jason Mendoza instead of many Jacinta.

[00:02:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, not for wild.

[00:03:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Won't be the last.

[00:03:03] [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, I just had a blast watching it.

[00:03:05] [SPEAKER_03]: I thought it was really well done.

[00:03:06] [SPEAKER_03]: It was well executed.

[00:03:08] [SPEAKER_03]: The visuals were on point for me in the story.

[00:03:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Grit me.

[00:03:13] [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, I'm totally on board with season two whenever that happens.

[00:03:16] [SPEAKER_03]: It better happen.

[00:03:18] [SPEAKER_03]: And this move forward.

[00:03:20] [SPEAKER_07]: Awesome.

[00:03:21] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I agree.

[00:03:23] [SPEAKER_07]: And Marilyn, how about you?

[00:03:25] [SPEAKER_07]: You've had some time to think about it since the season wrapped up.

[00:03:28] [SPEAKER_07]: Have you thought changed at all or how are you feeling about it?

[00:03:33] [SPEAKER_05]: No, I think it's a fabulous show.

[00:03:35] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, the fact that it's a listening so much strong response from so many people tells

[00:03:39] [SPEAKER_05]: me that they're definitely firing on all cylinders.

[00:03:43] [SPEAKER_05]: And there's a whole bunch of lore and Easter eggs that I think are just blown right past

[00:03:49] [SPEAKER_05]: me because I don't have that knowledge that a lot of people do.

[00:03:52] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't feel as though I'm missing something good.

[00:03:57] [SPEAKER_05]: So you know, I can take the story on its own terms and enjoy it a lot.

[00:04:01] [SPEAKER_05]: And it's going to like to think about I don't always agree with all the treatments

[00:04:07] [SPEAKER_05]: that they give.

[00:04:09] [SPEAKER_05]: And I mean, I had a lot of fun on discord and kind of nudging people to think

[00:04:18] [SPEAKER_05]: of things in a little slightly different way or different perspective.

[00:04:21] [SPEAKER_05]: And I know that the whole point of this is to set up why the Jedi fell 100 or

[00:04:29] [SPEAKER_05]: two years from now.

[00:04:32] [SPEAKER_05]: But I want to complicate it.

[00:04:34] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't want it to be simplified.

[00:04:37] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't want the solid mind, good guy bad guy drawn.

[00:04:41] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I think they're doing a pretty good job of that.

[00:04:44] [SPEAKER_05]: People can interpret that however they want to, of course, right?

[00:04:48] [SPEAKER_05]: But there, you know, I'm always trying to think of the totality.

[00:04:54] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not just an us versus them, which is so easy to.

[00:04:58] [SPEAKER_05]: Much too easy for us to slide into these days, but I also have found myself wondering,

[00:05:03] [SPEAKER_05]: okay, so just what is the definition of memorabaries versus oh, I'm so bad.

[00:05:10] [SPEAKER_05]: They brought in this person because he's so cool and I know I'm so well.

[00:05:15] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm sorry.

[00:05:16] [SPEAKER_05]: I just, you know, one person's memorabaries and other persons.

[00:05:21] [SPEAKER_05]: What start words?

[00:05:21] [SPEAKER_07]: I think it's a true.

[00:05:23] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, it's also can be excitement for, like, for instance with playgis.

[00:05:28] [SPEAKER_07]: I think it's a lot of it is excitement for like, oh, now we're going to get a really good story.

[00:05:33] [SPEAKER_07]: And for Yoda, yeah, that's a more memorabaries.

[00:05:35] [SPEAKER_07]: But it's not necessarily memorabaries.

[00:05:37] [SPEAKER_07]: It is you do have to acknowledge he's there.

[00:05:39] [SPEAKER_07]: He exists, you know, they keep having him go off into space because they don't want

[00:05:43] [SPEAKER_07]: to overuse him, but he's around.

[00:05:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, and of course, if Yoda is my memorabary, then clearly play just as your memorabaries.

[00:05:51] [SPEAKER_05]: So, you know, so I'll have memorabaries together.

[00:05:52] [SPEAKER_05]: And not use it as a pejorative, but just as a great addition.

[00:05:59] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I know I was just meant to say like what I'm excited about the playgis is that we don't

[00:06:04] [SPEAKER_07]: know his story in canon yet.

[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_07]: So it's like a blank slate.

[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:06:11] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:06:11] [SPEAKER_05]: But also, in fact, did you say or you know his name and you recognized him maybe fingers going

[00:06:14] [SPEAKER_05]: around the corner, right?

[00:06:15] [SPEAKER_07]: Right, right, right, right.

[00:06:16] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:06:16] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, it's already a part of your universe for me.

[00:06:19] [SPEAKER_05]: It was like, I don't know.

[00:06:20] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, creepy cave guy.

[00:06:22] [SPEAKER_04]: But also, let's acknowledge that nostalgia is uses as pejorative a lot of the time.

[00:06:27] [SPEAKER_04]: And in the end, like what it lists its feelings for us is why we make art and that's

[00:06:33] [SPEAKER_04]: okay to have nostalgia be one of the, as long as it's not the only brush you paint with,

[00:06:37] [SPEAKER_04]: it is okay for it to be part of your palette.

[00:06:40] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, that's my point.

[00:06:43] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:06:44] [SPEAKER_07]: So any special moments or favorites things, scenes characters you want to shout out up top,

[00:06:51] [SPEAKER_07]: Marilyn?

[00:06:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, I really do like, man, OSHA.

[00:06:57] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm like what they're doing with it.

[00:06:59] [SPEAKER_05]: I like being able to try and come up with a concept of what this might be and what

[00:07:04] [SPEAKER_05]: it might imply.

[00:07:06] [SPEAKER_05]: And in the discord, I mentioned this idea of the twin moons of brandoff and here

[00:07:12] [SPEAKER_05]: these two beings who are more than simply twins,

[00:07:17] [SPEAKER_05]: they are a double being, right?

[00:07:20] [SPEAKER_05]: And they require each other in order to be that totality of a double being.

[00:07:26] [SPEAKER_08]: Mm-hmm.

[00:07:26] [SPEAKER_05]: And you take one away then this is the whole, I give you, you give me me sort of

[00:07:32] [SPEAKER_05]: first that I hope we eventually find out who wrote that and why.

[00:07:38] [SPEAKER_05]: And I do think that they were doing a slow, but steady shifting the entire time.

[00:07:47] [SPEAKER_05]: Between the two, I agree.

[00:07:50] [SPEAKER_05]: That point when they're on cofar is the point where may flips and even a she flips

[00:07:56] [SPEAKER_05]: so dissociative flip and that you know, they seem to be implying that these two are just

[00:08:01] [SPEAKER_05]: very closely intertwined and I don't think that they could have killed me

[00:08:07] [SPEAKER_05]: and had OSHA survive as a whole being.

[00:08:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Right?

[00:08:11] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I do think that there's something to that.

[00:08:14] [SPEAKER_07]: I don't know, maybe they can't, there was such a suggestion that they couldn't die apart.

[00:08:18] [SPEAKER_07]: Maybe, maybe that's a thing.

[00:08:20] [SPEAKER_07]: I don't know, I don't know.

[00:08:21] [SPEAKER_05]: The other thing is, I really am looking forward to the day when we can have

[00:08:24] [SPEAKER_05]: which is who are nature-based?

[00:08:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Not, you know, dark, evil, scary, strange, right?

[00:08:33] [SPEAKER_05]: Right, you know, I recognize all the sort of bases of,

[00:08:37] [SPEAKER_07]: there are forest-based, I mean, nature-based forest users, right?

[00:08:41] [SPEAKER_07]: Right, right.

[00:08:41] [SPEAKER_05]: But I think you know, Yoda's description of the forest in the second

[00:08:46] [SPEAKER_05]: of the three original films that life creates it.

[00:08:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and other than that one time, that's kind of been left

[00:08:56] [SPEAKER_05]: by the way, so I'm like, I sort of missed that.

[00:09:00] [SPEAKER_07]: So, Jean, do you have anything you want to shout out up top?

[00:09:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, all the action sequences, especially the first one with chimere.

[00:09:09] [SPEAKER_03]: And when he decimated the Jedi squadron, the game felt that was,

[00:09:16] [SPEAKER_03]: that was incredible.

[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_03]: The final sea-fights scene sequence with him and saw was also doubly incredible.

[00:09:30] [SPEAKER_03]: I like all the Wushu callbacks that they made had me thinking of,

[00:09:37] [SPEAKER_03]: crossing Tiger, hit and dragon.

[00:09:40] [SPEAKER_03]: And how I felt watching that film in the movie theater.

[00:09:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Just a lot of really good action sequences.

[00:09:50] [SPEAKER_03]: But I think my favorite scene in the entire series

[00:09:55] [SPEAKER_03]: was the final shot of OSHA and chimere

[00:10:00] [SPEAKER_03]: where they appear to be holding hands, but I think they're holding them like saber.

[00:10:03] [SPEAKER_07]: Right, hands wrapped together in the lightsaber.

[00:10:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Peering out over the horizon across the sea.

[00:10:11] [SPEAKER_03]: I thought that was a beautiful shot.

[00:10:15] [SPEAKER_03]: It really to me, it encompassed what the series was really about

[00:10:20] [SPEAKER_03]: was people trying to find something to hold on to.

[00:10:26] [SPEAKER_03]: No matter if it was perceived to be dark or not.

[00:10:34] [SPEAKER_03]: OSHA definitely trying to find herself away from her family and not knowing that she still had

[00:10:42] [SPEAKER_03]: connections to the world.

[00:10:44] [SPEAKER_03]: And chimere just, you know, for his own selfish reasons, whatever they may be,

[00:10:48] [SPEAKER_03]: we don't know hopefully we find out a little bit more trying to hold on to

[00:10:54] [SPEAKER_03]: something, to grab hold onto something.

[00:10:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Because for me, it felt like he was spinning out of control

[00:11:01] [SPEAKER_03]: and wanted a way to get into control and the act of life.

[00:11:06] [SPEAKER_07]: Like OSHA's an anchor?

[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, yes, in searching for something to steady him and ground him.

[00:11:15] [SPEAKER_03]: That's how I felt about that character and that shot was just beautiful.

[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, absolutely.

[00:11:22] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, and that's true, and that really tracks with how he reached out to her,

[00:11:26] [SPEAKER_07]: is sort of like a grounding homey down.

[00:11:30] [SPEAKER_07]: So one thing of notes for any listeners who don't know,

[00:11:34] [SPEAKER_07]: Marilyn and Jean-Youtu are on opposite ends of the soul patrol spectrum.

[00:11:40] [SPEAKER_07]: So we're going to keep it light with there's only one rule in this game and that is no soul

[00:11:48] rule.

[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_07]: That's fine with me.

[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_07]: No, I know you guys have all been reading also some background stuff.

[00:12:03] [SPEAKER_07]: I was wondering, Marilyn, we're going to be talking about six stories.

[00:12:06] [SPEAKER_07]: We won't get into them now, but has that given you any perspective on the Sith in this story?

[00:12:12] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, I mean, that the one sort of bread

[00:12:15] [SPEAKER_05]: been interesting in basically presenting that same concept of, you know, rule of tool.

[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_05]: Two, excuse me, rule of tool.

[00:12:27] [SPEAKER_05]: Absolutely, yeah, well, that could also be part of it.

[00:12:30] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, the master and the apprentice and eventually the apprentice is supposed to overcome

[00:12:37] [SPEAKER_05]: the master, but the really, really intelligent and evil and powerful masters wind up tricking

[00:12:44] [SPEAKER_05]: apprentices and saying, aha, you thought you could rule me, but you can't.

[00:12:50] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I'm still kind of trying to put this in the context of where do these stories come from?

[00:12:57] [SPEAKER_05]: Why are they being told? Right? Are they considered to be legends or myths or fables?

[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you know, I mean, there's there is a fair bit there to unpack.

[00:13:12] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't think I connected them very much at all to this show because

[00:13:18] [SPEAKER_05]: you know, the presentation is different. The language is different. It's a lot, the stories are much flatter

[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_05]: right? Because that's their intentions or stories. They're not going to give you dimensionality

[00:13:30] [SPEAKER_05]: and there's certainly, there's an amazing amount of dimensionality in this series and that's

[00:13:41] [SPEAKER_07]: exactly, yeah, exactly. Now, John, you, you enjoyed the hybrid public. I was wondering what is

[00:13:49] [SPEAKER_07]: your favorite phase two book since that's a word. Okay, there we go. I can answer quick.

[00:13:56] [SPEAKER_04]: You know why is that it's um, it is the best examination of how the Jedi

[00:14:03] [SPEAKER_04]: are a cult that I've seen in the books and that I really enjoyed. I really enjoyed that and I really

[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_04]: enjoyed the POVs that they gave. You know, it's a YA book. It's technically a YA book,

[00:14:16] [SPEAKER_04]: but the young adult books in this series really are mandatory reading. Like you cannot skip

[00:14:21] [SPEAKER_04]: them the essential to the story. And it sets up, yeah. And it sets up a character,

[00:14:27] [SPEAKER_04]: name Marta, I'll just say that I think that her journey and I don't want to spoil the book,

[00:14:32] [SPEAKER_04]: but her journey through cult banking is absolutely fascinating. And so I was not expecting

[00:14:39] [SPEAKER_07]: to find it. Yeah, she's not a Jedi by the way, for anyone who doesn't know. I mean, I do,

[00:14:43] [SPEAKER_07]: I do spoil her story in the hybrid public overview. So if you've heard that then, yeah, she's

[00:14:50] [SPEAKER_04]: the path of the open hand is her thing. Yeah, and I just, you know, they're, they're another,

[00:14:54] [SPEAKER_04]: they're kind of an anti use of the force cult. They think that the force should never be used,

[00:15:00] [SPEAKER_04]: either for good or evil, don't manipulate the force because they think like, oh, if you use the

[00:15:09] [SPEAKER_04]: force holding it to seek balance. And they, but they're really, which is very interesting with

[00:15:15] [SPEAKER_07]: it like this pulling a thread idea too because when you pull a thread, it pulls on something else too,

[00:15:21] [SPEAKER_04]: right? Right. And so Marta has to deal with the implication of that and whether she can

[00:15:29] [SPEAKER_04]: befriend a Jedi, whether she thinks they're evil, et cetera. And I, I just think that it's incredible

[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_05]: writing everyone should go read it. Yeah. By the by that pulling on the thread that was

[00:15:39] [SPEAKER_05]: one thing I really liked about the depiction of which is because which is our often associated with

[00:15:45] [SPEAKER_05]: weeding. Right? Yeah. Weaving the threads and, you know, forming the pattern through introducing

[00:15:53] [SPEAKER_05]: new threads and so on. So I, I appreciated that particular use of language and imagery for those

[00:15:59] [SPEAKER_05]: particular witches. But yeah, I'm really interested in seeing force users that are neither Sith nor Jedi.

[00:16:05] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. And how do they do that? And are they more natural? There was one episode, I've watched

[00:16:15] [SPEAKER_05]: too many recently of an animated series in which we do see a group of those such people who live

[00:16:25] [SPEAKER_05]: on the mountaintop and they're, they're peaceful and that doesn't mean this was a failure to be in

[00:16:30] [SPEAKER_05]: thank you. Yes. Right. Yes. Yeah. The mountain climb. I've really liked, I really liked that a lot

[00:16:37] [SPEAKER_07]: and would love to see more of that. Yeah. I mean, you said the mountain climb is from legends and there

[00:16:43] [SPEAKER_07]: are more, there are more clans on death in me or legends but one of the interesting things about

[00:16:49] [SPEAKER_07]: the witches in the acolyte is that as far as we know they're not from death in mehre. Right. Right.

[00:16:55] [SPEAKER_07]: So that's that puttamin a home new ballpark from. Yeah, I think that's interesting. So young,

[00:17:01] [SPEAKER_07]: you said you were getting some new context in the acolyte out of the hyper public comment. Come on.

[00:17:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, I did. It's just for the confirmation of what I've always told for the last 30 years

[00:17:14] [SPEAKER_03]: the Jedi stink. That's where I met with it. It was everything that I have ever said and now I have

[00:17:23] [SPEAKER_03]: proof have proof positive that my thinking is the right way to think. Yes. So I'm so happy.

[00:17:33] [SPEAKER_03]: You have to see that of course, I know you have to say the confetti and the alcalfe and no one.

[00:17:40] [SPEAKER_02]: We have to see stories as confused. Yes. They all complex but at the core it's core. Yes. The Jedi

[00:17:48] [SPEAKER_03]: They are horrible. So let me just say I enjoyed the comics in all seriousness. It showed a different

[00:18:00] [SPEAKER_03]: way that they showed, I should say, because I read a few of them. A different way, a different meaning

[00:18:09] [SPEAKER_03]: and showed a lot of the things that were happening in the acolyte did I had no idea about.

[00:18:16] [SPEAKER_03]: You read the Burush Fowl. Yes, yes. There's a master bond of this of them. What a great name.

[00:18:24] [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm going to see more stories with bond of this. It was really the stories themselves

[00:18:33] [SPEAKER_03]: did what I've been asking for from the Star Wars universe which is to show

[00:18:39] [SPEAKER_03]: what you're saying, the complexity of the story. It's not just Sith and Jedi, dark for

[00:18:50] [SPEAKER_03]: or light. It's a lot of gray and a lot of colors that we don't even know about.

[00:18:59] [SPEAKER_03]: I think that was a really cool thing to have on page. I really enjoyed the comics.

[00:19:07] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, yeah. Well, I'm glad you found what you were looking for, Jean.

[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Confirmation by is. Oh, I was gonna not go to see it. You did it.

[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_02]: I can't move on on on. I can't move on. I can't move on.

[00:19:28] [SPEAKER_07]: Well, so now that the spoiler band has been lifted, are there any spoilery observations anyone wants

[00:19:33] [SPEAKER_07]: to get off their chest? In regards to what? In regards to the acolyte season,

[00:19:40] [SPEAKER_07]: like that it makes you think about palpating or Anakin or anything you want. Oh, I see. I see.

[00:19:49] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, this is actually more looking towards the future, but I really want to see how

[00:19:54] [SPEAKER_05]: you'll do fits into all of this because as I understand it, there's a number of different

[00:19:59] [SPEAKER_05]: stories where they show him confronting his pride in his hubris and so forth. And to have him

[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_05]: appear at the very end there, it's like, okay, so he's not here, but where has he been all along?

[00:20:13] [SPEAKER_05]: He's just back from a trip to the universe. There's lots of questions there. And I don't know

[00:20:30] [SPEAKER_07]: for... and how she's doing. Even people who read the books, there's a hundred-year gap

[00:20:35] [SPEAKER_07]: where we don't know what I know him was up to. And some of these people are definitely over 100

[00:20:41] [SPEAKER_05]: years old right for Nester and Yoda. And I still don't, I still think there's whole chapters of

[00:20:47] [SPEAKER_05]: soul story that we haven't seen or heard yet. Yeah, I hope they fill it in. We're getting a

[00:20:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Kalkakamic, I'm excited for that. Oh, interesting. Well, I'm hoping for it in the series itself

[00:20:57] [SPEAKER_05]: or for all the folks out there, Miss Elf included who don't manage to get into the comic material.

[00:21:05] [SPEAKER_07]: And anyone else any spoilery thoughts you want to get off your chest off on the top?

[00:21:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Have you ever heard the story of the tragedy? All right, all right, I didn't count it.

[00:21:18] [SPEAKER_07]: You didn't even do it in the voice. Yeah, I didn't even know the voice. The tragedy of

[00:21:24] [SPEAKER_07]: the wife is... There we go. Miss, are you curious? No. So are we all on team hashtag

[00:21:34] [SPEAKER_07]: Renew the Aquilite, I assume? Yeah, yeah. Yes, yes. All right, John's booted. Let's the rest of us

[00:21:40] [SPEAKER_07]: get started. Yeah, you lost John, that's it. All right, let's let's the games begin.

[00:21:51] [SPEAKER_07]: Round one. All right, here's how it's going to work in round one. I will present everyone with

[00:21:57] [SPEAKER_07]: 10, I'm using air quotes, different awards categories, most with four nominees each. None of you have

[00:22:04] [SPEAKER_07]: any prior knowledge of the awards categories or nominees except me because I made them up.

[00:22:09] [SPEAKER_07]: For each award, I will give you four options but for most awards, I will give you four options.

[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_07]: But feel free to choose an option that's not on the list. The nominees are merely suggestions in

[00:22:19] [SPEAKER_07]: the game of Aquilite coded nonsense. Just tell us in a sentence or two why you picked your pick

[00:22:25] [SPEAKER_07]: and a winner or possibly more than one winner will be crowned for each category and that winner

[00:22:31] [SPEAKER_07]: show goes down in the lore, how on's Hall of Fame or in for me is the case maybe. The in

[00:22:37] [SPEAKER_07]: round two twist, David will be revealing his picks. So as you go through choosing your own

[00:22:45] [SPEAKER_07]: selections for each question, I want you to also predict which you think David will pick.

[00:22:53] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh my. This is going to cover it on job, whoever gets the most right wins an extra right.

[00:23:01] [SPEAKER_05]: Maybe Jean-en-lai should be on a team together.

[00:23:04] [SPEAKER_04]: I have to give you as much to go into the mind. How many hours would David?

[00:23:09] [SPEAKER_07]: Yes, yes, yes, yes. Yes, you have.

[00:23:11] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh my gosh. We're going to find out who is the real David whisperer.

[00:23:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, oh, like I've seen the mind of David. You know what I mean? Like I, I, uh, I don't know.

[00:23:21] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know. I feel like yeah. Talking a big game here. But if I lose now, now I am in there.

[00:23:28] [SPEAKER_07]: Well, I mean, we'll say, we're all chaos incarnate. So I'm quite sure that I'm not a human.

[00:23:35] [SPEAKER_04]: He could he could pick something completely out of character to be a contrarian and that would also be very

[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_07]: that would also be did. I did explain that we were doing this. So

[00:23:44] [SPEAKER_07]: so you have to think you have to think about all angles. This is very princess bride. Yes, I was just thinking

[00:23:50] [SPEAKER_07]: of that exact same thing. That was a year to say. But wait, he know we would be picking.

[00:23:57] [SPEAKER_07]: Would not be a spawning. All right. The first one is the one that breaks the rule.

[00:24:05] [SPEAKER_07]: For question number one, I'm asking you to each pick your top three characters and predict David.

[00:24:12] [SPEAKER_07]: And I'm giving you a list of 16 and oh, oh, cracking. Oh, yeah, to choose from. But you can also

[00:24:19] [SPEAKER_07]: choose off the list. So just your three favorite characters and who you think David will pick.

[00:24:24] [SPEAKER_07]: The choices are Oshameh. I'm counting them as one. So, Kai Mir, mother on a sayah, coral,

[00:24:31] [SPEAKER_07]: Jackie, Yord, Indara, Kelnaka, Torbin, Vanessa, Basel, Senator Ray in court,

[00:24:41] [SPEAKER_07]: a said you want. Noonolags and spines frames or Yoda.

[00:24:48] [SPEAKER_07]: Okay. All right. I have to do the same actually.

[00:24:57] [SPEAKER_07]: All right. Who's, who's ready, John? Oh, come on. I have any better than the bottom of the list yet.

[00:25:07] [SPEAKER_04]: All right. Fine. Fine. I will save us all. All right. I would say soul,

[00:25:14] [SPEAKER_04]: easy peasy for me. Okay. This is my, these are my picks. David, I still can't pick. I still cannot

[00:25:20] [SPEAKER_04]: feel I cannot figure out what my game is playing with me. Is in my head.

[00:25:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Soul, Kai Mir because there are two halves of a very interesting equation. Uh-huh. And

[00:25:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Indara, because you know what, I just want more matrix characters and star wars. There you go.

[00:25:41] [SPEAKER_07]: There you go, fair. All right. I end your David picks.

[00:25:48] [SPEAKER_04]: Ugh. Okay. All right. I'm just going to do it. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Just winged. Basel. Okay.

[00:25:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Vernestra and Jackie. No, that's a, that's a, you pick. I'm not doing Jackie.

[00:26:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Verne back. Kelnaka. Kelnaka. Okay. I'm going to lose this one. I know it.

[00:26:16] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm not doing it. I'm going down. I'm going down. I'm asking Vernestra.

[00:26:21] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm asking for you. Sure. How, how new is David to the Star Wars universe?

[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh no. He's not new. He's not new. No. Okay. But he's not new. He just hates reusing sound effects.

[00:26:37] [SPEAKER_05]: He's not. Well, there is that. I do know that about him. But um, I mean, he's not at the level of

[00:26:42] [SPEAKER_05]: genre and Alicia. Oh, he suppresses me. He's, he's not a new either so. Okay.

[00:26:50] [SPEAKER_07]: He's medium. I guess. All right. I've got mine. I'll go next. Um, so for me,

[00:26:56] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm going to pick Kai Mir, Jackie and Oshamey. And for David, I'm choosing Soul, Indara

[00:27:10] [SPEAKER_04]: and Anaseya. Okay. I should have picked. I say, that was right. I was right. I know it now.

[00:27:16] [SPEAKER_07]: Would you want to substitute Anaseya for one? No, no. I escaped my answers and that's that. Okay. Okay.

[00:27:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Shall we? Are you ready? Yeah. Um, so my top three would be Anaseya.

[00:27:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Kai Mir? Okay. And Senator Ray and Quar. I thought she might like him.

[00:27:43] [SPEAKER_05]: You are sticking to your guys, my friend.

[00:27:46] [SPEAKER_03]: You might. I didn't know you were such a fan of yourocracy, Jackie.

[00:27:52] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm a wonderful civil servant. Isn't an amazing hell. bureaucracy suddenly becomes

[00:27:57] [SPEAKER_07]: your friend when this is, wait, can John, can I ask you a civil war? Who did you side with?

[00:28:04] [SPEAKER_07]: You know, only, because right now you're siding with Iron Man. I know what's

[00:28:10] [SPEAKER_07]: I know who he's siding against. All right, all right, all right. And what are your picks for

[00:28:18] [SPEAKER_03]: David? For David, Anaseya, Jackie and Indara. Okay. Okay. And Marilyn, what are your picks for yourself?

[00:28:30] [SPEAKER_05]: My top three are Oshamey, Soul and Mother Anaseya. Okay. And for David,

[00:28:38] [SPEAKER_05]: for David, I'm picking Nuna Lake's Kelna and Indara. I think Nuna Ray would appeal to David.

[00:28:47] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I was looking at those. I was like, this looks pretty fucking good.

[00:28:49] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know. I might not be a feeling so well. It's not the Nuna Lake. It's the

[00:28:56] [SPEAKER_05]: spice cream that go along with. Right. Yeah, it's be honest. I'm going over Kelnaakas for dinner. Go ahead.

[00:29:02] [SPEAKER_07]: What's like, it's like, um, what is it that doctor, the doctor from doctor who has fish fingers and

[00:29:09] [SPEAKER_07]: clusters? Yeah. Yeah. Soul spursium will be Nuna Lake's dip. I agree. I'm into it. I'm into it.

[00:29:16] [SPEAKER_04]: He's got good taste. You can't deny that soul has good taste.

[00:29:24] [SPEAKER_07]: So surprising, no one. The winner for the first question is,

[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_07]: Kai-Mir, our dark prince. Yeah. Solid guy. Yeah. So what were David's three picks?

[00:29:40] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, we're going to find out at the end. Oh, okay. Sorry. Yeah. This is great to talk.

[00:29:46] [SPEAKER_07]: He doesn't his picks don't count toward the winning of the category but they count toward other things.

[00:29:51] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, well, like the David whisper word. Okay. Okay. So that sounds a little bit silly.

[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_07]: Solid's not the girls. No. What could I do? Okay. So for questions two and three,

[00:30:10] [SPEAKER_07]: it's kind of a two-parter and I arbitrarily divided the eight episodes into the top four in the

[00:30:15] [SPEAKER_07]: bottom four. You may or may not agree with me. I don't necessarily agree with this list per

[00:30:20] [SPEAKER_07]: it's just what the vibe I got from the community like any question, feel free to choose something

[00:30:26] [SPEAKER_07]: that's not on the list. I present you. So question number two, which was your favorite episode this

[00:30:32] [SPEAKER_07]: season and the four I am presenting as the nominees are episode three destiny, the first flashback

[00:30:40] [SPEAKER_07]: to the witches of Breddock episode five night, the predator episode episode six, teach corrupt,

[00:30:47] [SPEAKER_07]: which was the ocean mirror episode and the light whip episode eight, the acolyte, the finale.

[00:30:55] [SPEAKER_03]: John, do you have a pick? Yeah, this is this is oh, this is tough. So I

[00:31:03] [SPEAKER_03]: am going to go with B episode five night. Okay. And what's your pick for David?

[00:31:14] [SPEAKER_03]: His wow. I'm going to go with six episode six. See, okay. So why night for you?

[00:31:34] [SPEAKER_03]: I just I thought everything about it was was so well done. Like it was

[00:31:40] [SPEAKER_03]: everything that that the build up the momentum it just felt like edge on of my seat.

[00:31:49] [SPEAKER_03]: And I don't often get that in Star Wars, that type of feeling and I got that feeling watching

[00:31:57] [SPEAKER_03]: that episode. So I want to celebrate that because I think it's something again is something for me

[00:32:04] [SPEAKER_03]: that is new to the universe for me. Other people may have different feelings about different

[00:32:11] [SPEAKER_03]: you know, scenes that that brought them and say ah you know but there's only one other scene

[00:32:17] [SPEAKER_03]: that I can think of one other moment in Star Wars that I felt the way that I felt during that

[00:32:22] [SPEAKER_03]: episode. And that was you know when Darth Vader went bananas when in Raghund and Raghund.

[00:32:30] [SPEAKER_03]: You know so I really appreciate it for that reason because it kept me on the edge of my seat.

[00:32:39] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, okay and what about you, John? Well all of that was wrong.

[00:32:45] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm just kidding. I could not pick night and I'll tell you why. I would have picked night if it were

[00:32:50] [SPEAKER_04]: paired with day. Unfortunately they gave me two half episodes that would have been there in the

[00:33:01] [SPEAKER_04]: What's the name of destiny? The first flashback to the Witches of Brandock. I thought it

[00:33:06] [SPEAKER_04]: it expanded the world of Star 8 expanded the galaxy in a way that I haven't seen in a while

[00:33:10] [SPEAKER_04]: and that's exciting to me. I want more of that in Star Wars. Good job, Leslie Hethon.

[00:33:16] [SPEAKER_07]: And what's your David Pick?

[00:33:18] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm gonna say he probably hated the power of many part. So I'm gonna say

[00:33:29] [SPEAKER_04]: I think he's gonna be with John. I think he's gonna be on the night.

[00:33:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Back in night for David. Okay, okay. Or is that what he wants me to think?

[00:33:39] [SPEAKER_07]: No, I'm going to episode six teach corrupt. Yes, okay, all right. See it is.

[00:33:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Never go up against the Sicilian.

[00:33:48] [SPEAKER_05]: Sicilian. I'm gonna get him on the line. Fortunately, Death is not in the line and there are no

[00:33:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Sicilians in this part. How do you know? Well, that's what I said as far as I'm aware.

[00:33:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Went to your pick, Marilyn. I'm really gonna startle myself exceedingly by saying that my favorite

[00:34:07] [SPEAKER_05]: episode is number eight. Okay, okay. The finale. Okay. Because I came away from it so disturbed.

[00:34:18] [SPEAKER_05]: But over the course of however long it's been since it dropped,

[00:34:25] [SPEAKER_05]: the depth and the richness and the just, it may just be the satisfaction of the number of threads that were

[00:34:30] [SPEAKER_05]: wrapped up. You and I are still plenty that are waving in the breeze which is why yes, hashtag,

[00:34:35] [SPEAKER_05]: season two, it's very great. I'm from newly actually. Yeah, so yeah, that's lucky.

[00:34:43] [SPEAKER_07]: And with your David pick, I think his is number five night. Okay, okay, yeah, I'm picking for

[00:34:53] [SPEAKER_07]: myself. I'm picking night and for David, I'm gonna pick destiny the third one just because

[00:34:59] [SPEAKER_07]: that was the one that prompted him to want to jump on the podcast and oh, oh, oh, that's my

[00:35:05] [SPEAKER_07]: answer now. I'm just kidding. Good memory. Okay, so on the other side of that coin

[00:35:15] [SPEAKER_07]: because it's appropriate for the show, least favorite episode. So that leaves episode one lost found

[00:35:23] [SPEAKER_07]: the pilot episode two revenge justice, the prison ship and the apothecary episode four day

[00:35:30] [SPEAKER_07]: Kelnakis death and the chimere cliffhanger episode seven choice the second flashback. And just to be

[00:35:36] [SPEAKER_07]: clear, like it's only I personally love all these episodes too. It's just I did divide it into.

[00:35:43] [SPEAKER_07]: We now didn't have to but it felt like the thing to do.

[00:35:48] [SPEAKER_07]: Um, Jean, let's start with you. Do have those two favorite. Okay, and now what's your

[00:35:56] [SPEAKER_07]: David pick episode two revenge justice? Okay, okay. What about you, Marilyn? Well,

[00:36:05] [SPEAKER_05]: Jean and I are as one on this thing. Okay, least favorite was also number two revenge justice.

[00:36:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, I think it was just because after such a banger beginning, um,

[00:36:17] [SPEAKER_05]: I thought it was not enough materials for two thinly somehow. Okay, okay. Remember correctly.

[00:36:24] [SPEAKER_05]: And I've just wowed guessing with David. I'm saying is least favorite was episode seven the second flashback.

[00:36:29] [SPEAKER_05]: I have a big notion that at some point he said something about him getting tired of flashbacks but

[00:36:35] [SPEAKER_07]: right. Okay, I may be completely off on that. Okay. Um, I'm going to choose,

[00:36:44] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm going to choose episode four for myself. See just because I feel like the least happens there.

[00:36:51] [SPEAKER_07]: Even though I loved it, it's more of a set up episode and for David, I'm going to choose,

[00:36:59] [SPEAKER_07]: um, I'm going to choose, I think the second one for him as well.

[00:37:07] [SPEAKER_07]: This because it's another quieter point. What about two John, what are your picks?

[00:37:13] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, you said I can go off menu, right? Right. I can go off menu. I'm going to say the finale.

[00:37:19] [SPEAKER_04]: The acolyte. Is your least favorite? I thought that the writing took a dip that episode that I

[00:37:24] [SPEAKER_04]: hadn't seen before that. There were parts of it that did not make sense. Do you remember that now?

[00:37:29] [SPEAKER_04]: And um, well, I thought that it was perhaps the best lightsaber battle I've ever seen.

[00:37:35] [SPEAKER_04]: choreographs and Star Wars. I for me, writing is top tier. Right. The whole season and drops there

[00:37:41] [SPEAKER_04]: and I always value writing above all when we're talking about stories here. So that's going to be my

[00:37:46] [SPEAKER_04]: least favorite. For David, I'm actually going to pick episode one because he had messaged me right

[00:37:52] [SPEAKER_04]: after he watched it saying I'm so glad you guys are covering this without us. That's right. That's right.

[00:37:58] [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. See inside and out. Yeah. I'm out of here.

[00:38:02] [SPEAKER_04]: But then he ended up liking it. Listen guys, don't add David. I'm not trying to call out too much.

[00:38:07] [SPEAKER_04]: But I did have inside information on that one. I will admit it. So

[00:38:13] [SPEAKER_05]: I just wanted to check one thing with you. So something you said I got confused. But so my least favorite

[00:38:18] [SPEAKER_05]: was number two. And I thought that David's least favorite was number seven. Is that what you have it?

[00:38:22] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. You, yes. Okay. Yeah. Okay. So the winner of the favorite episode is episode five night

[00:38:35] [SPEAKER_07]: the predator episode. And the loser of the least favorite episode is episode two revenge justice.

[00:38:44] [SPEAKER_07]: The prison ship in a public area, which I actually quite liked. But okay. All right. One more before

[00:38:50] [SPEAKER_07]: we take a break. Coolest lore nugget. So these are all things that I'm naming that are not new to the

[00:38:58] [SPEAKER_07]: lore, but they're new to most people. But you can also shout out anything else. So the before

[00:39:02] [SPEAKER_07]: options I'm presenting are the Burrash Vau, Cortosis, Virgences, Bleeding Ciber crystals.

[00:39:12] [SPEAKER_04]: John, what's your pick? Bleeding Ciber crystals. I want to present best thing that they

[00:39:20] [SPEAKER_04]: very cool the way that they had the the Ciber crystal get exposed and Oshia's touching it. And

[00:39:27] [SPEAKER_04]: it's and she's getting angrier and it's just like the crystal is just bending with her. Amazing. Amazing.

[00:39:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. The first time we've seen it in live action as far as I know. And they didn't

[00:39:37] [SPEAKER_04]: in seemed like a job. I'm so happy with it. Cool, cool. And David Pick. David Pick. Ooh.

[00:39:46] [SPEAKER_04]: I kind of think Cortosis. Okay. I think Cortosis, I think he's going to like that

[00:39:52] [SPEAKER_04]: the choreography. It was a new. I mean, I like to do that would be my second pick. Yeah.

[00:39:56] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, you've got that really interesting in and out with the lightsabers that where

[00:40:01] [SPEAKER_04]: you're more being surprised it's like it's just felt fresh for a lightsaber battle. And I think

[00:40:06] [SPEAKER_04]: he would have appreciated that visual. Okay. Yeah. Talking about him like his dead. He would have

[00:40:15] [SPEAKER_07]: up there up there in England. In the cosmic force. So yeah, I'm going to pick Cortosis for

[00:40:24] [SPEAKER_07]: myself, which is narrowly eeking over Ciber crystals. And I think it's just because I've never seen

[00:40:29] [SPEAKER_07]: Cortosis in live action or you know, I haven't seen the bleeding Ciber crystals in live action. But

[00:40:33] [SPEAKER_07]: I just know a lot more about it in Cortosis is such a rare treat and it was so cool to say it

[00:40:39] [SPEAKER_07]: used in that inventive way with like the headbutting the lightsabers and stuff. I'm going to choose

[00:40:44] [SPEAKER_07]: virginces for David. I don't know, I think something generative about it might like. What about

[00:40:49] [SPEAKER_05]: two Maryland with your fix? Well, my favorite Lord Nugget is for the person's is it makes sense.

[00:40:57] [SPEAKER_05]: It's far less technical and far more organic cosmic whatever you want to call it. There's just

[00:41:06] [SPEAKER_05]: so much possibility there. I think David will also say that the Ciber crystals really

[00:41:11] [SPEAKER_07]: okay, okay and Joe, what are your picks? The Barrage Vow. Okay for me, and I'm also picking

[00:41:21] [SPEAKER_04]: that for David. Okay, okay. Well, I hope you all are really sitting in a room quietly together.

[00:41:29] [SPEAKER_05]: Is that what you two do when you hang out? Can we take a minute? I want to hear why John

[00:41:36] [SPEAKER_05]: likes that when so much? I sit quietly 20 minutes every day but I want to know what that's cool for you,

[00:41:43] [SPEAKER_03]: John. I just it made me want to know why this extremely powerful Jedi chose to

[00:41:54] [SPEAKER_03]: go into seclusion basically in front of everyone. It wasn't like he was hiding.

[00:41:59] [SPEAKER_03]: All right, he was in a cave somewhere. He was clearly out of the open. Everybody knew

[00:42:05] [SPEAKER_03]: he was there. Everybody knew that he had taken this this vow and it made me want to know why.

[00:42:14] [SPEAKER_03]: You know and how does that what is the reason behind this? And also, how does he maintain

[00:42:23] [SPEAKER_03]: this incredible connection to the force within the vow? Is it the vow itself that's you

[00:42:29] [SPEAKER_03]: no, allowing him to tap into something that he ordinarily wouldn't be able to. So yeah,

[00:42:36] [SPEAKER_03]: and let a lot of had a lot of questions for me. And yeah, I really appreciated that.

[00:42:44] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, no, it made it cool. Thank you. And you know what else is cool? That means that

[00:42:50] [SPEAKER_04]: it's a four-way tie. Oh, I missed that sound since the since the silo wrap up.

[00:42:57] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I've needed it since I've creved it. Scratches my brain and all the way is.

[00:43:04] [SPEAKER_07]: All right, well, that's a great note to pause on. We'll be right back after the break with the

[00:43:09] [SPEAKER_07]: rest of the game. Okay, and we're jumping back in with question number five. And that is,

[00:43:36] [SPEAKER_07]: what is your favorite new planet? And so the options are Ueda, which is where the fight with

[00:43:44] [SPEAKER_07]: Indar was or Olegah, where Torben's death is. And yes, I'm combining them to give these two a fighting

[00:43:49] [SPEAKER_07]: chance. Option B is bretta speak. Option B is brandock where the which is came from. Cofar,

[00:43:59] [SPEAKER_07]: the jungle planet of Kalknaka or the unknown planet where chimese hang out is. Let's just call it

[00:44:06] [SPEAKER_04]: ball-demic. John, what's your pick? I can't decide this. I'm so, this is so hard.

[00:44:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it is. I guess you know what, brandock because the way that the poison tree looked

[00:44:28] [SPEAKER_04]: the way that there were like weird butterflies, the virgins, all the coolest stuff. I don't

[00:44:34] [SPEAKER_04]: definitely not Oeda or those were just atoing. Even combined together, you're like,

[00:44:41] [SPEAKER_04]: nah, no, look, I've seen that before. I don't know how you feel like I've seen that before in

[00:44:58] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't need another barrio.

[00:45:02] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't need another dessert.

[00:45:04] [SPEAKER_04]: I need something new.

[00:45:05] [SPEAKER_04]: I want the witchy planet.

[00:45:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Give it to me fresh.

[00:45:08] [SPEAKER_07]: Okay, okay.

[00:45:09] [SPEAKER_07]: What's your raw and wriggly?

[00:45:13] [SPEAKER_07]: Fortunately to say,

[00:45:14] [SPEAKER_07]: why?

[00:45:18] [SPEAKER_07]: My freshness.

[00:45:19] [SPEAKER_07]: What is your David pick?

[00:45:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Covar.

[00:45:24] [SPEAKER_07]: Covar.

[00:45:25] [SPEAKER_04]: He likes to over.

[00:45:26] [SPEAKER_04]: I think he's going to like those giant bug

[00:45:28] [SPEAKER_04]: chasing people, I think that's good stuff.

[00:45:30] [SPEAKER_07]: Okay, okay.

[00:45:31] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.

[00:45:32] [SPEAKER_04]: And I get, I feel like David is a wookie fan.

[00:45:35] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.

[00:45:36] [SPEAKER_04]: There's, there's something there that needs to be explored

[00:45:39] [SPEAKER_04]: for their in therapy.

[00:45:41] [SPEAKER_07]: In therapy.

[00:45:42] [SPEAKER_07]: In your therapy if you're there.

[00:45:44] [SPEAKER_07]: Believe some David's wookie fandom.

[00:45:49] [SPEAKER_07]: Marilyn, what's your pick?

[00:45:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, my favorite new planet is also Brenda.

[00:45:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[00:45:55] [SPEAKER_05]: And John, you got me worried because I kept for David's.

[00:45:58] [SPEAKER_05]: For David's, I keep coming back to Covar.

[00:46:02] [SPEAKER_05]: But I'm going to go out and a limb and say,

[00:46:05] [SPEAKER_05]: commiracyd out.

[00:46:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[00:46:10] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm sure you're correct, John.

[00:46:11] [SPEAKER_05]: No, I'm sure you're correct.

[00:46:13] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm just kidding.

[00:46:13] [SPEAKER_04]: I bet you I got everything all of these wrong for David.

[00:46:17] [SPEAKER_04]: I just, I just know, I feel like

[00:46:18] [SPEAKER_07]: I should have made a sound effect for that.

[00:46:22] [SPEAKER_07]: Okay.

[00:46:23] [SPEAKER_07]: John, what's your, what are your picks?

[00:46:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Covar.

[00:46:28] [SPEAKER_03]: This is my favorite and who ate the favorites.

[00:46:34] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, interesting.

[00:46:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Maybe I heard you thinking about,

[00:46:40] [SPEAKER_05]: that's what I thought it was for David.

[00:46:43] [SPEAKER_05]: I'll hope that's the case.

[00:46:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:46:47] [SPEAKER_04]: So tired of sand in my shoes.

[00:46:49] [SPEAKER_04]: All right, gone.

[00:46:51] [SPEAKER_07]: I am also going with brandok.

[00:46:54] [SPEAKER_07]: So that makes brandok the winner for this round.

[00:46:58] [SPEAKER_07]: Hello, I mean, come on.

[00:47:01] [SPEAKER_05]: So we're all the action happens.

[00:47:04] [SPEAKER_07]: Okay.

[00:47:04] [SPEAKER_07]: And that brings us to number six.

[00:47:08] [SPEAKER_07]: We're, let's set a somber tone for just a moment.

[00:47:11] [SPEAKER_07]: We're gonna talk about what are the saddest deaths.

[00:47:13] [SPEAKER_07]: And since there were so many freaking deaths

[00:47:15] [SPEAKER_07]: in this show, I have groups, group to them.

[00:47:20] [SPEAKER_07]: So your options are, and of course you can always choose

[00:47:23] [SPEAKER_07]: off menu, option A, mother on a say,

[00:47:26] [SPEAKER_07]: and soul, option B, Jackie and Yord,

[00:47:30] [SPEAKER_07]: option C, Indara, Kelnaka and Torban or option D,

[00:47:35] [SPEAKER_07]: Pips Memory Banks and original body.

[00:47:38] [SPEAKER_07]: And now I wish John that I still had in the arms.

[00:47:42] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, the arms.

[00:47:43] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, God.

[00:47:46] [SPEAKER_07]: It was in the, it was in the sound bar

[00:47:48] [SPEAKER_07]: when I load up.

[00:47:49] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, okay.

[00:47:51] [SPEAKER_07]: All right, John, what's your pick?

[00:47:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Me, I feel like I'm going first a lot.

[00:47:56] [SPEAKER_07]: Okay, well, skip you next time.

[00:47:58] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, we could, we had to find it.

[00:48:00] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm happy to have it to say it all.

[00:48:03] [SPEAKER_04]: My favorite, sorry, my saddest death, I should say.

[00:48:08] [SPEAKER_04]: My favorite death die.

[00:48:12] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm gonna say Jackie and Yord

[00:48:13] [SPEAKER_04]: because there was so much lost potential there.

[00:48:16] [SPEAKER_04]: And they didn't deserve that, right.

[00:48:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Yord was annoying, that doesn't qualify him

[00:48:20] [SPEAKER_04]: for early death.

[00:48:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Jackie had a lot of potential.

[00:48:24] [SPEAKER_04]: Seems like she was a really, really promising

[00:48:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Patawan who really knew how to harness the teachings

[00:48:30] [SPEAKER_04]: of the soul.

[00:48:31] [SPEAKER_04]: So that was a saddest for me.

[00:48:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[00:48:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Far as David,

[00:48:37] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm gonna say, Pips.

[00:48:40] [SPEAKER_04]: I think he's a droid lover.

[00:48:42] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, all right.

[00:48:43] [SPEAKER_04]: I think he's the opposite of Dynjarn.

[00:48:47] [SPEAKER_07]: And Jean, what's your picks?

[00:48:51] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to go with B Jackie and Yord.

[00:48:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:48:57] [SPEAKER_03]: I feel bad.

[00:48:59] [SPEAKER_03]: I still feel bad that I, you know,

[00:49:02] [SPEAKER_03]: solid Yord's name, the way that I did.

[00:49:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:49:07] [SPEAKER_03]: He didn't deserve it.

[00:49:08] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, if I could apologize to him, I would.

[00:49:12] [SPEAKER_03]: So you could tweet at the actor?

[00:49:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, maybe that's what I did.

[00:49:16] [SPEAKER_03]: I did it because I really savage them.

[00:49:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, he was high on my list.

[00:49:20] [SPEAKER_03]: He was like number two on my list.

[00:49:23] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm like, I know you haven't seen any of this land

[00:49:25] [SPEAKER_04]: or I threw your way.

[00:49:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Sorry for it.

[00:49:28] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry for it.

[00:49:30] [SPEAKER_05]: I'll have deserved death and some who died deserve life.

[00:49:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes.

[00:49:38] [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm gonna go for David.

[00:49:41] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna go with C, Dara Colette and Orbin.

[00:49:47] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[00:49:50] [SPEAKER_05]: And Marilyn, what about you?

[00:49:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, it's a trifecta for sudden death.

[00:49:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Jackie and Yord.

[00:49:57] [SPEAKER_05]: What everybody has said, they were too young.

[00:50:00] [SPEAKER_05]: They didn't have enough riots for their incredibly great gifts.

[00:50:05] [SPEAKER_04]: And not only the good die.

[00:50:07] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:50:07] [SPEAKER_05]: And I really hated opening the next episode with Jackie's dead body.

[00:50:16] [SPEAKER_05]: And also staring at us, that was just a little bit.

[00:50:19] [SPEAKER_07]: But that was also, you know,

[00:50:21] [SPEAKER_07]: I think there was also a point in doing that

[00:50:23] [SPEAKER_07]: and letting it snow and coral disappears later,

[00:50:26] [SPEAKER_07]: like nobody know death.

[00:50:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, whatever.

[00:50:31] [SPEAKER_05]: I could have done it with somebody else's body.

[00:50:32] [SPEAKER_05]: That's all.

[00:50:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, the internet has really broken the discourse around death

[00:50:35] [SPEAKER_04]: and...

[00:50:37] [SPEAKER_07]: Well, I mean, but it is, yeah, it's a storytelling trope for a reason

[00:50:41] [SPEAKER_07]: because also we watch a lot of stuff where people come back

[00:50:44] [SPEAKER_07]: from near death a lot, including in Star Wars.

[00:50:48] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, but if anybody crawls up from under a dumpster

[00:50:50] [SPEAKER_05]: in this universe, it's gonna be blood on the moon.

[00:50:54] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm gonna leave now out of a sewer with spider legs since we're doing it

[00:51:00] [SPEAKER_07]: full spoilers, small.

[00:51:02] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, and my David, yes.

[00:51:05] [SPEAKER_05]: Also matches John, which is hip.

[00:51:08] [SPEAKER_07]: Okay, okay.

[00:51:10] [SPEAKER_07]: All right, so I am also choosing Jackie and Yord,

[00:51:15] [SPEAKER_07]: and that means...

[00:51:17] [SPEAKER_06]: Super ultra winner.

[00:51:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Ah, yeah, Jackie and Yord.

[00:51:21] [SPEAKER_02]: I like it.

[00:51:22] [SPEAKER_07]: Especially the unanimous saddest death.

[00:51:25] [SPEAKER_07]: For David, I think I'm gonna go with Anna Saya and Soul.

[00:51:30] [SPEAKER_05]: All right.

[00:51:30] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, all right.

[00:51:33] [SPEAKER_07]: Number seven, this is the other downer.

[00:51:36] [SPEAKER_07]: Let's get it out of the way.

[00:51:38] [SPEAKER_07]: People will can't tell us we're not fair and balanced.

[00:51:40] [SPEAKER_07]: What is your biggest complaint of this season?

[00:51:43] [SPEAKER_07]: So the four options on the table are A, the format, whatever

[00:51:47] [SPEAKER_07]: having to do with it's too short or not enough episodes

[00:51:50] [SPEAKER_07]: of cliffhangers or episodes in the wrong order or the format.

[00:51:53] [SPEAKER_07]: B, serial ball fair.

[00:51:55] [SPEAKER_07]: C, two dark and pessimistic D, not enough light whip.

[00:52:01] [SPEAKER_07]: And I'm gonna open this one up by just saying,

[00:52:03] [SPEAKER_07]: I am definitely not enough light whip girl.

[00:52:06] [SPEAKER_07]: But I'm gonna go serial.

[00:52:08] [SPEAKER_05]: No comment.

[00:52:14] [SPEAKER_07]: Well, actually, why don't you comment.

[00:52:16] [SPEAKER_07]: You're next, man.

[00:52:16] [SPEAKER_07]: Everybody, you pick.

[00:52:18] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, um, do I get another alternative?

[00:52:23] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you can pick whatever you want.

[00:52:25] [SPEAKER_05]: Because the closest would be too dark pessimistic.

[00:52:29] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I know you can say something else.

[00:52:31] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm, this is my cognitive bias speaking, I think.

[00:52:36] [SPEAKER_05]: But throughout whenever we were getting all these different

[00:52:40] [SPEAKER_05]: peoples and the things they were doing and so forth,

[00:52:46] [SPEAKER_05]: I just felt like we weren't being given enough context.

[00:52:51] Okay.

[00:52:54] [SPEAKER_05]: Maybe some of it was because I didn't know back stories

[00:52:57] [SPEAKER_05]: that I didn't know the lore well enough.

[00:53:00] [SPEAKER_05]: But there was, they were not able to spend time examining

[00:53:06] [SPEAKER_05]: in greater depth why people made the choices they were making.

[00:53:12] [SPEAKER_05]: I guess it's the best way I can put it, but I don't know

[00:53:15] [SPEAKER_05]: maybe that's gonna be season two.

[00:53:16] [SPEAKER_07]: We'll find them.

[00:53:17] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:53:17] [SPEAKER_07]: Well, yeah.

[00:53:18] [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, I guess, yeah, it is.

[00:53:20] [SPEAKER_07]: I know she conceptualized it as a multi-season show.

[00:53:23] [SPEAKER_07]: So I do wonder how much of season two is already fleshed out.

[00:53:27] [SPEAKER_05]: And I'm gonna best that David's biggest complaint

[00:53:30] [SPEAKER_05]: was the serial bowl fair.

[00:53:32] [SPEAKER_05]: I think he did raise that once or twice

[00:53:35] [SPEAKER_05]: if I remember correctly.

[00:53:38] [SPEAKER_07]: All right, Jean, what about you?

[00:53:41] [SPEAKER_03]: I would go with A format.

[00:53:46] [SPEAKER_03]: I think episodes were too short.

[00:53:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:53:51] [SPEAKER_03]: That's for me.

[00:53:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, for David.

[00:53:58] [SPEAKER_03]: This is a tough one.

[00:54:00] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna say episodes in the wrong order.

[00:54:08] [SPEAKER_07]: Okay, so format also.

[00:54:11] [SPEAKER_07]: Okay.

[00:54:12] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I know that you say that, Jean.

[00:54:14] [SPEAKER_05]: I think you're right.

[00:54:15] [SPEAKER_05]: I think that would be David's choice.

[00:54:18] [SPEAKER_07]: What about you, John?

[00:54:20] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think I even need to say it.

[00:54:22] [SPEAKER_04]: I feel like I was very loud about my complaint

[00:54:23] [SPEAKER_04]: about format the whole season.

[00:54:25] [SPEAKER_07]: Okay, okay, yep, there we go.

[00:54:27] [SPEAKER_04]: That I'm not gonna elaborate on it.

[00:54:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Everyone knows my thoughts.

[00:54:31] [SPEAKER_04]: David, serial bowl fair.

[00:54:33] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, I think, I think he's just,

[00:54:37] [SPEAKER_04]: although he did defend the use of the serial bowl.

[00:54:39] [SPEAKER_04]: So I'm gonna be good.

[00:54:41] [SPEAKER_04]: The serial bowl can be a path to many abilities

[00:54:43] [SPEAKER_04]: some of the things that we've had.

[00:54:46] [SPEAKER_04]: I think that's right.

[00:54:48] [SPEAKER_07]: Okay, Darth John.

[00:54:51] [SPEAKER_07]: All right, that makes it official.

[00:54:53] [SPEAKER_07]: The winner or loser of the biggest complaint

[00:54:56] [SPEAKER_07]: of the season is the format, which I was,

[00:54:59] [SPEAKER_07]: I should have a not shocked Pikachu down to fix.

[00:55:04] [SPEAKER_07]: All right, episode eight, is it gonna be unanimous?

[00:55:08] [SPEAKER_07]: Or are we all going different directions best?

[00:55:12] [SPEAKER_07]: We're gonna start with you, Jean.

[00:55:16] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm not ready.

[00:55:18] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm not ready.

[00:55:19] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not ready.

[00:55:19] [SPEAKER_07]: All right, all right, we're gonna start with you, Marilyn A.

[00:55:23] [SPEAKER_07]: Mae versus Andara.

[00:55:25] [SPEAKER_07]: B. Jackie and Soul versus Kai-Mere.

[00:55:27] [SPEAKER_07]: C. Kalnaka versus everyone or D.

[00:55:31] [SPEAKER_07]: Soul versus Kai-Mere in the finale.

[00:55:34] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, I think it has to be D.

[00:55:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Because each of the ones you chose include pieces

[00:55:41] [SPEAKER_05]: that all seem to be present in that final.

[00:55:46] [SPEAKER_05]: And the summation of it and the climax

[00:55:48] [SPEAKER_05]: and everything else.

[00:55:49] [SPEAKER_05]: And I think David would say the same thing,

[00:55:51] [SPEAKER_05]: but maybe I flatter myself.

[00:55:53] [SPEAKER_07]: Okay.

[00:55:54] [SPEAKER_07]: And what about are you ready, Jean?

[00:56:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[00:56:02] [SPEAKER_03]: I am going to say for me my favorite fight

[00:56:08] [SPEAKER_03]: be it's tough.

[00:56:12] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm choosing between Mae and Andara

[00:56:15] [SPEAKER_03]: and Sovereign here.

[00:56:18] [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm just gonna go and Mae and Andara.

[00:56:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:56:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Does it set the tempo for the entire series?

[00:56:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that really tempted me too, Jean.

[00:56:28] [SPEAKER_03]: And also it was a badass fight scene

[00:56:33] [SPEAKER_03]: as well as the story being laid out before us.

[00:56:39] [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm gonna go with that for myself

[00:56:42] [SPEAKER_03]: and I'm gonna go see for John.

[00:56:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, Kalnaka versus everyone.

[00:56:48] [SPEAKER_07]: Okay, all right, Jean, what about you?

[00:56:54] [SPEAKER_03]: What about D, D for David?

[00:56:59] [SPEAKER_03]: D for David, I'm sorry.

[00:57:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Sorry, sorry.

[00:57:01] [SPEAKER_07]: Okay, okay.

[00:57:04] [SPEAKER_07]: John, what about you?

[00:57:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, for me, absolutely not one.

[00:57:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Number two was very good.

[00:57:12] [SPEAKER_04]: I even made a whole TikTok on it

[00:57:14] [SPEAKER_04]: because of the, you know, the I need to hear them.

[00:57:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you know what I'm gonna go with that. I really I really enjoyed the way

[00:57:21] [SPEAKER_04]: She this is a thing. This is why I thought that it would be a really amazing episode of it was two together

[00:57:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Because this was the best fights of scene in Star Wars the you know the cortosis not gonna light Sabres out

[00:57:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Jackie coming out with her second lightsaber finally turning on and just smirking at time your excellent

[00:57:37] [SPEAKER_04]: The triple stab that was that was it was brutal, but it was cool. I just think cool as fight

[00:57:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay far as David. I that's a little tougher. That's a little tougher. It just is I think he's gonna say so on time here

[00:57:53] [SPEAKER_07]: okay

[00:57:56] [SPEAKER_07]: Okay, I

[00:57:57] [SPEAKER_07]: I am actually going to agree with you on the Jackie versus

[00:58:04] [SPEAKER_07]: So also and I also am predicting so on time here for David

[00:58:09] [SPEAKER_07]: So that means that's Jackie and so versus chimere twins

[00:58:18] [SPEAKER_07]: All right number nine merge you're buying immediately a

[00:58:24] [SPEAKER_07]: Pipp that's it

[00:58:28] [SPEAKER_07]: Spaces b a basal plushy see a color-beleting light saber D a stick on spiral tattoo

[00:58:39] [SPEAKER_07]: The okay, so that you picked yours job with your David pick

[00:58:44] [SPEAKER_04]: I didn't even listen to the other options

[00:58:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Hold on here

[00:58:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Merchier buying oh color-beleting why it's a really cool

[00:58:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think Pipp too. I think I think I think David's a droid lover and a wookie lover

[00:59:03] [SPEAKER_04]: It's sooner kiss a wookie

[00:59:05] [SPEAKER_07]: It can be a dried yeah

[00:59:09] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm just quoting me or you know of course you are you think I don't know that

[00:59:15] [SPEAKER_07]: Maryland what's it where do your picks?

[00:59:18] [SPEAKER_05]: Well if I were into spirals I would get a spiral tattoo. I'm not in I mean if I ran to

[00:59:23] [SPEAKER_07]: tattoos yeah, but you stick on it's not permanent. I understand but you have stick on

[00:59:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, I would get a basal plushy and give it to my great niece and nephew

[00:59:35] [SPEAKER_05]: Because my great nephew is really into hedgehogs and you know close close really and I agree with John

[00:59:43] [SPEAKER_05]: I with John. I think that David would choose a Pipp

[00:59:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, John, what do you think since he can choose a wookie plushy right?

[00:59:53] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna go with what everyone

[00:59:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Little E which is my eight-year-old once

[01:00:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Best of course you might immediately

[01:00:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Chobin one E-picks

[01:00:05] [SPEAKER_03]: I think he's gonna pick Pipp

[01:00:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, I think you'll pick a Pipp and

[01:00:10] [SPEAKER_03]: For David. I think you will do the color bleeding lightsaber

[01:00:17] [SPEAKER_07]: Okay, okay

[01:00:19] [SPEAKER_07]: I picked for myself

[01:00:22] [SPEAKER_07]: The stick on spiral tattoo of course

[01:00:25] [SPEAKER_07]: Hello, oh, yeah, it's almost a tie with Pipp which doesn't matter either way because

[01:00:31] [SPEAKER_07]: Because yeah, Pipp wins, but I'm picking Pipp for David

[01:00:37] [SPEAKER_07]: All right, Pipp is the official winner of this category. Um, woo

[01:00:41] [SPEAKER_07]: Number 10 the last official question most exciting season two story they've set up

[01:00:49] [SPEAKER_07]: So we've got a play guess

[01:00:51] [SPEAKER_07]: B ocean mirror C varnetra May and Kaymear D Senate versus Jedi John was your pick

[01:01:00] [SPEAKER_04]: You got to do that to me. All right, all right. I'll do it. I'll do it. Sorry the producers reference is pretty funny

[01:01:08] [SPEAKER_04]: But he has never seen that movie

[01:01:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Um, I don't think play guess is gonna be a story line so I'm gonna skip that one

[01:01:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, I think it's gonna be at most some more nods

[01:01:20] [SPEAKER_04]: I think

[01:01:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I just want to see what's going on with the main plot here. You know, varnetra May, Kaymear. I think that is

[01:01:27] [SPEAKER_04]: That is going to be the most in all though

[01:01:29] [SPEAKER_04]: I guess you could argue ocean mirrors the main plot, but I think I think varnetra May and Kaymear will have more mysteries to open up

[01:01:36] [SPEAKER_04]: I think that I think you positive something in our last podcast together

[01:01:40] [SPEAKER_04]: that was like

[01:01:41] [SPEAKER_04]: perhaps the

[01:01:43] [SPEAKER_04]: fallout between varnetra and Kaymear or whatever

[01:01:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Kaymear's real name was will be a like a central mystery next season. I could see that. Yeah, it would be very good

[01:01:52] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, there's a good mystery there

[01:01:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, I don't think David gives a single fuck about play guess

[01:01:58] [SPEAKER_04]: So I'm gonna skip that one for him too. I'm spicy tonight. Sorry and

[01:02:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Very

[01:02:06] [SPEAKER_04]: I think he would he would just buy a thousand

[01:02:11] [SPEAKER_04]: 1000 pip plus cheese before he took it

[01:02:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Another I'm just I mean you can actually a campaign. You can choose off a bow no, no, he didn't

[01:02:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Was he restricted the options wait a minute?

[01:02:26] [SPEAKER_04]: He just picked a non-menu item every time to fuck with us

[01:02:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, okay

[01:02:38] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm gonna pick ocean here. I think he I think he likes a good he likes a good dark side or okay, okay

[01:02:45] [SPEAKER_07]: All right, and Joe

[01:02:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Ocean there for me. Okay, and I think

[01:02:55] [SPEAKER_03]: varnetra may and Kaymear for David. Okay. What about you, Marilyn?

[01:03:02] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, I was going to go for just varnetra and may but from what people have been saying

[01:03:09] [SPEAKER_05]: I think Kaymear has to come into because he comes into varnetra's story

[01:03:16] [SPEAKER_05]: So varnetra main I'm here and

[01:03:21] [SPEAKER_07]: I think David is gonna pick Senate versus Jedi. Okay, all right, that means for us it's a two-way tie

[01:03:29] [SPEAKER_07]: So the stories we are most excited about our ocean mirror and varnetra may and Kaymear

[01:03:36] [SPEAKER_07]: Again, Kaymear wins again. Well you put him in twice

[01:03:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Double the chance to be girl

[01:03:46] [SPEAKER_05]: I'll tell you what he deserves

[01:03:49] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, I'm gonna get it

[01:03:51] [SPEAKER_07]: Well, yeah, we'll see how he's story ends

[01:03:54] [SPEAKER_07]: All right, well, I can tell you it's not gonna be as play as his long-term apprentice

[01:04:01] [SPEAKER_07]: So one additional bonus question surprise

[01:04:06] [SPEAKER_07]: What is this spoiler that you've been most dying to talk about or hear about on the podcast all season and the four

[01:04:12] [SPEAKER_07]: I put on here are Anakin's force conception and or fall

[01:04:17] [SPEAKER_07]: Palpatine story arc

[01:04:19] [SPEAKER_07]: Raylo any excuse to talk about Kayne in from rebels

[01:04:24] [SPEAKER_07]: John

[01:04:28] [SPEAKER_04]: That's I mean blind Jedi with the with the forced deprivation mask. I see where you go with it. I see where you go. I see where you go

[01:04:35] [SPEAKER_07]: choice

[01:04:37] [SPEAKER_07]: When you I had to believe you for bringing him up, so that's where I came from well

[01:04:41] [SPEAKER_04]: I do love Kenan. He's a really good character. Yes, yes, and

[01:04:46] [SPEAKER_04]: My that's right. It's David who doesn't like he's meeting these fancy force crabs

[01:04:51] [SPEAKER_04]: It's just pop out and out of the ground in tarantula land and

[01:04:55] [SPEAKER_04]: I just love the guy. I think he's great. He's like I can't see and I feel weaker than I have ever felt in my life

[01:05:01] [SPEAKER_04]: So I'm gonna go outside the boundaries of my safe camp and go into tarantula territory

[01:05:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Where I will find a giant force crab who will teach me how to see using my feelings

[01:05:12] [SPEAKER_07]: It's my men do

[01:05:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Really amazing

[01:05:17] [SPEAKER_07]: He's a center of the force

[01:05:19] [SPEAKER_04]: And my god his sacrifice might be the most meaningful

[01:05:21] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he has one of the best stories

[01:05:25] [SPEAKER_04]: Because he's a lot of so you know

[01:05:27] [SPEAKER_04]: David started watching rebels and this motherfucker. He comes over here and he starts slander

[01:05:34] [SPEAKER_05]: He certainly does he doesn't like that pony tail

[01:05:37] [SPEAKER_04]: He doesn't like the ponytail and I'm like you dare slander one of the most selfless Jedi

[01:05:43] [SPEAKER_04]: That ever existed. We've ever got

[01:05:46] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, y'all anytime you want to talk trash about Jedi. I will hold can't end up to you

[01:05:52] [SPEAKER_03]: I love I love Kenan

[01:05:54] [SPEAKER_03]: I look

[01:05:54] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, he's my memory

[01:05:57] [SPEAKER_07]: Because the order 66 having

[01:06:00] [SPEAKER_05]: I think that's becious argument

[01:06:07] [SPEAKER_05]: No, I mean it's it is a literalism, but I practice is the Jedi arts

[01:06:13] [SPEAKER_05]: Not a Jedi are more than simply whether or not they went to an academy

[01:06:18] [SPEAKER_07]: Right it's true. It's an ideal. It's a way of being and certainly I want to my favorite characters

[01:06:24] [SPEAKER_07]: Is also someone whose famous for saying I am no Jedi

[01:06:28] [SPEAKER_07]: Absolutely and it's because she also was trained first there that did shape her morality in a lot of ways

[01:06:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Exactly. Yeah, she's like I am no Jedi, but I am going to enforce the insane knowing how to spend

[01:06:41] [SPEAKER_04]: role as a

[01:06:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Gremlin who just wanted to talk about this

[01:06:45] [SPEAKER_05]: You know what? Maybe that's a little young at that point John show. She was not young

[01:06:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Middle-A in the middle of all man. I get well, you know from the perspective of all those

[01:06:58] [SPEAKER_05]: 70s. He still looked young

[01:06:59] [SPEAKER_05]: He's like my best

[01:07:02] [SPEAKER_07]: Wait wait wait. This is not about soul, but no soul brawl

[01:07:10] [SPEAKER_05]: I do not brawl

[01:07:13] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, so

[01:07:14] [SPEAKER_07]: John should I use using option D canin or

[01:07:20] [SPEAKER_07]: Which you choice

[01:07:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, he's God. John's God. That was God

[01:07:24] [SPEAKER_07]: What is your what is your David pick last David pick

[01:07:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Last David pick what it what a day

[01:07:32] [SPEAKER_04]: Definitely not came in because I think if he could he if he had a gun

[01:07:39] [SPEAKER_04]: If David had a blaster and with with two shots with two ball-plastic

[01:07:45] [SPEAKER_04]: And he was in a room with canin palpatine and Darth Vader he cheated

[01:07:50] [SPEAKER_02]: Without smoke right no

[01:07:54] [SPEAKER_05]: I think you do him wrong

[01:07:59] [SPEAKER_07]: To quote Star Wars no

[01:08:04] [SPEAKER_04]: I think he I think he'd be a palpatine guy with us. Okay, okay, I think we'd be palpatine

[01:08:11] [SPEAKER_07]: All right, I went with I went with Raylo for myself. I'm predictable. I know I like it come on

[01:08:16] [SPEAKER_07]: I wanted it was so difficult not to talk about one of the only other dark side romances and Star Wars

[01:08:23] [SPEAKER_07]: Well talking about Oshamir, but it's so bad

[01:08:27] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, I disagree

[01:08:31] [SPEAKER_07]: What is so bad so bad so bad. Yeah, the railroad. Yeah, the whole railroad thing

[01:08:40] [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, I think it ended the way that it was posted and it wasn't supposed to be happily ever after

[01:08:44] [SPEAKER_07]: Maybe Oshamir has a better shot, but

[01:08:47] [SPEAKER_03]: No, just an entire thing was terrible for me

[01:08:51] [SPEAKER_07]: See and I didn't have a proper chance to litigate this, but then yeah

[01:08:55] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm definitely gonna at some point. I'm gonna be able to talk at length about

[01:08:59] [SPEAKER_07]: What does work about it and why I think people are looking at it the wrong way like looking at it to be

[01:09:08] [SPEAKER_07]: I think it gives to her things that you know like somebody brought up

[01:09:13] [SPEAKER_07]: I prefer Finn Ray and I know Jai know you're like Finn just needs to get away from this Jedi

[01:09:21] [SPEAKER_07]: But I think that like Finn is the guy that she deserves after

[01:09:28] [SPEAKER_07]: She, you know

[01:09:30] [SPEAKER_07]: This after she explores against over her dark side. Oh, no, no, Finn also went through his dark side

[01:09:36] [SPEAKER_07]: He was a friggin storm trooper Finn deserves. There was dark side to get Finn

[01:09:40] [SPEAKER_03]: He was the star better

[01:09:43] [SPEAKER_04]: bitteray

[01:09:44] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, I don't know if it does but John Boyega definitely does

[01:09:47] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, well, let me tell you at least here. There's this wonderful blog

[01:09:51] [SPEAKER_05]: That's a part of the Lorhoun's website

[01:09:54] [SPEAKER_05]: Could write

[01:09:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Paper about the railroad misunderstanding, but I got to say or read

[01:10:03] [SPEAKER_05]: Hold out no hope for ocean mirror because I cannot see dark sideers

[01:10:09] [SPEAKER_05]: Being together happily ever after

[01:10:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe ever after no, but you know

[01:10:15] [SPEAKER_05]: I can't see tearing yes, maybe they go out in a blaze of glory together. I don't consider lust as a pairing

[01:10:21] [SPEAKER_05]: Consider it so you know

[01:10:24] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm just saying that not every pairing has to be you know the great

[01:10:28] [SPEAKER_07]: Love that you look up to you know

[01:10:33] [SPEAKER_07]: Okay, but I'm choosing for I'm definitely not choosing that for David. I'm choosing Anakin for David

[01:10:38] [SPEAKER_03]: What about you, Jean what is your what are you for me is Palpatine and for David is Anakin?

[01:10:44] [SPEAKER_07]: okay

[01:10:47] [SPEAKER_05]: And

[01:10:47] [SPEAKER_05]: Marlin what about you?

[01:10:49] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, I'm your ring John again for me. That's okay, Haynan and David it's Palpatine

[01:10:56] [SPEAKER_07]: All right, so that means came in wins

[01:11:03] [SPEAKER_05]: I boy

[01:11:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh my boy

[01:11:06] [SPEAKER_05]: Because he he does the balance he had I can't remember the the name of the creature who you found in the desert

[01:11:14] [SPEAKER_05]: Bondu

[01:11:14] [SPEAKER_07]: Ben do

[01:11:16] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah

[01:11:18] [SPEAKER_05]: And then I learned about cannons restatement of the Jedi Creed and I said there it is right there

[01:11:28] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah

[01:11:29] [SPEAKER_07]: Are there any categories that you think I should have asked about

[01:11:36] [SPEAKER_07]: Hmm

[01:11:37] [SPEAKER_04]: You do a perfect job Alicia

[01:11:39] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, no, I think always of course. I just can't I can think of a single thing okay

[01:11:44] [SPEAKER_07]: It has been included. All right, well

[01:11:48] [SPEAKER_07]: Round two

[01:11:49] [SPEAKER_04]: You didn't have a brown nose or sound I feel like that should be there

[01:11:56] [SPEAKER_07]: Round two all right, so

[01:11:59] [SPEAKER_07]: We're gonna see find out with David actually chose for all the things

[01:12:03] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm gonna tell it up all right, let's hear what he has to say can't wait

[01:12:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Question one top three characters

[01:12:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Kindere mother on a saja jekky

[01:12:18] [SPEAKER_05]: I was wrong on all three number two

[01:12:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Favorite episode

[01:12:22] [SPEAKER_01]: episode three destiny first flashback to the witches of brandok

[01:12:27] [SPEAKER_01]: That was a cool-ass episode

[01:12:29] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah

[01:12:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Question number three least favorite episode

[01:12:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Episode B episode two revenge justice the prison ship and the obathocary

[01:12:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Question four coolist lord nugget

[01:12:44] [SPEAKER_01]: answer D

[01:12:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Bleeding cyber crystals that was wicked cool

[01:12:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Question five favorite new planet

[01:12:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Answer D the unknown planet Kai Nier's hideout a level that ocean rock stuff

[01:13:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Question six

[01:13:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Satest deaths the saddest is definitely answer A

[01:13:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Onesaya and soul, but I think the coolest were jekky and your

[01:13:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Question number seven biggest complaint of the season answer E

[01:13:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Story structure. I know that this could be covered by answer A format, but I fucking knew it

[01:13:29] [SPEAKER_01]: It seemed more structural to me than formatting

[01:13:34] [SPEAKER_01]: inconsistent and uneven

[01:13:39] [SPEAKER_01]: and

[01:13:40] [SPEAKER_01]: question eight best fight

[01:13:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Jekky and soul versus Kai Nier answer B

[01:13:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Question nine, Merchew or buying immediately answer is E

[01:13:55] [SPEAKER_01]: None of the above there's no

[01:13:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Merch item that really jumped out of me from the season said

[01:14:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Question ten most exciting season two story answer C

[01:14:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Minus me I'm really interested in the Vanessa Vanessa Kai Mirastory line

[01:14:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Question eleven bonus spoiler you've both been dying to talk about

[01:14:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Answer A

[01:14:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Anakin's force conception

[01:14:27] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm going home

[01:14:31] [SPEAKER_07]: Are you one

[01:14:33] [SPEAKER_07]: This is this is where I play the music for the listeners and do a quick tele up see how we did

[01:15:08] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm resuming the listening music is stopping I hope listeners enjoy that brief time that

[01:15:14] [SPEAKER_07]: I was just as brief me telling it up. It was super amazing right?

[01:15:20] [SPEAKER_07]: All right watch how our fingers never left her

[01:15:27] [SPEAKER_07]: Edited our lesia checking in from the future to say

[01:15:30] [SPEAKER_07]: I did not do a great job telling up these scores during the podcast recording

[01:15:35] [SPEAKER_07]: Basically the chart I drew myself to keep track of everyone's responses was

[01:15:40] [SPEAKER_07]: A bit of a mess and I fumbled the numbers a little bit

[01:15:43] [SPEAKER_07]: Luckily they didn't actually change the outcome so let's let past Alicia do her rebevels

[01:15:49] [SPEAKER_07]: And then I'll check back in after with the real numbers I wasn't that far off

[01:15:57] [SPEAKER_07]: So we're going to we're going to award this is very solemn the David whisper award

[01:16:03] [SPEAKER_07]: Okay, so we're gonna count up to the person who guessed

[01:16:08] [SPEAKER_07]: David's prediction most often in fourth place with zero points as he predicted is John

[01:16:21] [SPEAKER_04]: I knew it. I'm so proud I'm gonna wear this as a badge of mine

[01:16:26] [SPEAKER_04]: No one will ever accuse me of cheating on anything ever

[01:16:33] [SPEAKER_07]: In third place with one point is Marilyn oh

[01:16:38] [SPEAKER_07]: Right though oh what you got to right

[01:16:42] [SPEAKER_07]: Okay, I miss what then you have two sorry

[01:16:46] [SPEAKER_07]: Still in third place. I have four in second and that means the winner is

[01:16:54] [SPEAKER_07]: John

[01:16:56] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah

[01:16:56] [SPEAKER_03]: I know my David I know my David

[01:17:04] [SPEAKER_03]: What is your pride in conflict with itself

[01:17:09] [SPEAKER_06]: Congratulations

[01:17:15] [SPEAKER_07]: And you've also known him longer than any of the rest

[01:17:18] [SPEAKER_09]: Yes, sure and

[01:17:20] [SPEAKER_07]: There is also another award that was at stake here secretly

[01:17:25] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, I wanted to know who is actually David's forced twin

[01:17:30] [SPEAKER_07]: So this

[01:17:32] [SPEAKER_07]: This is the award to the person who had the most same answers as David

[01:17:39] [SPEAKER_07]: So in this case a tied for fourth place is both me and John with four points

[01:17:50] [SPEAKER_07]: In second place is Marilyn with five points. Look at here

[01:17:57] [SPEAKER_07]: And the winner is

[01:17:59] [SPEAKER_07]: Guess what John you

[01:18:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Because of twins

[01:18:07] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, you had to have some things in common to be such good podcasts. That's pretty funny. That's pretty funny

[01:18:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Force twingsies

[01:18:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Can we be a diet

[01:18:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, my gosh, oh

[01:18:20] [SPEAKER_04]: David it would be my honor that is fun

[01:18:29] [SPEAKER_07]: Hey future editor, Alicia back so

[01:18:32] [SPEAKER_07]: The results are basically what I said but I got the point to wrong Marilyn already called out one mistake I made which is

[01:18:40] [SPEAKER_07]: Luckily she's keeping track of her own score. She did indeed get two David whisperer points

[01:18:45] [SPEAKER_07]: I also gave myself one David whisperer point to who and

[01:18:49] [SPEAKER_07]: a couple David whisperer points too many so actually in the end John and I tied for David whisperer

[01:18:58] [SPEAKER_07]: I guess it's all that MCU talk and

[01:19:02] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah on the force twin side

[01:19:04] [SPEAKER_07]: It actually turns out so

[01:19:07] [SPEAKER_07]: John still won with five points and it turns out that Marilyn

[01:19:12] [SPEAKER_07]: John and I tied for second or fourth however you want to put it

[01:19:18] [SPEAKER_07]: With three points each and I made up a little color-coded chart of all these results

[01:19:24] [SPEAKER_07]: And I'm gonna be posting it on our discord and on social media and I'll put a link to that in the show

[01:19:31] [SPEAKER_07]: Okay back to the end of the episode

[01:19:37] [SPEAKER_07]: So okay, there is actually wait sorry hold on. There's another award

[01:19:44] [SPEAKER_07]: One more is none one more there's one more final fast round here we go

[01:19:52] [SPEAKER_07]: Round three final round

[01:19:56] [SPEAKER_07]: Without thinking throw out three predictions for season two what do you hope or expect to see it can be big end game stuff or something is silly as

[01:20:06] [SPEAKER_07]: more light whip

[01:20:08] [SPEAKER_07]: John

[01:20:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Palpatine

[01:20:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Midi-Clorians

[01:20:17] [SPEAKER_03]: um

[01:20:22] [SPEAKER_03]: A kiss

[01:20:23] [SPEAKER_07]: Okay

[01:20:24] [SPEAKER_07]: I got a team welcome because he's not but the other time

[01:20:28] [SPEAKER_07]: No, I know you say quick fast

[01:20:30] [SPEAKER_07]: You say quick fast. I just don't go fast. Okay John you quick fast

[01:20:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, okay all right

[01:20:37] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, she's gonna get an apprentice. She means skywalker next thing

[01:20:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Next thing

[01:20:45] [SPEAKER_04]: To be

[01:20:47] [SPEAKER_04]: We are gonna have time your milk some blue milk and third thing is

[01:20:54] [SPEAKER_04]: I think

[01:20:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, she's gonna make her own helmet

[01:20:58] [SPEAKER_07]: Okay, all right

[01:21:01] [SPEAKER_05]: Marilyn

[01:21:03] [SPEAKER_05]: I think Vanessa for Nostra is gonna confront time here

[01:21:09] [SPEAKER_05]: I think ocean may are probably gonna find out what it means to be

[01:21:14] [SPEAKER_05]: one person in two forms

[01:21:17] [SPEAKER_05]: and I think that

[01:21:22] [SPEAKER_05]: Pip and

[01:21:25] [SPEAKER_05]: What's this name the the tracker?

[01:21:29] [SPEAKER_05]: Are gonna become besties oh

[01:21:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Basel yeah basel and whatever they do when they're by themselves is none of your business

[01:21:37] [SPEAKER_07]: Okay, I think that we're gonna find out that

[01:21:42] [SPEAKER_07]: Coral

[01:21:44] [SPEAKER_07]: She sheaves up all her horns and later becomes mother-talson

[01:21:51] [SPEAKER_07]: Not really I think we're gonna find we're gonna get a mince swap between Oshin May and

[01:22:00] [SPEAKER_07]: um

[01:22:01] [SPEAKER_07]: And we're gonna get

[01:22:05] [SPEAKER_07]: Ocean mirror is going to be joint

[01:22:08] [SPEAKER_07]: Ren founders

[01:22:11] [SPEAKER_07]: Until

[01:22:12] [SPEAKER_07]: Chimier dies tragically

[01:22:16] [SPEAKER_07]: Saving OSHA and May after a botched merging ceremony

[01:22:22] [SPEAKER_07]: There we go

[01:22:25] [SPEAKER_07]: Do I believe any of that maybe not?

[01:22:28] [SPEAKER_07]: Do you guys have any final thoughts on the acolyte for today?

[01:22:32] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, it's an awfully rich mix to be

[01:22:36] [SPEAKER_05]: producing so much

[01:22:38] [SPEAKER_05]: discussion reaction

[01:22:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Conunplation I mean if you look at some of the things that were being talked about on our discord

[01:22:47] [SPEAKER_05]: I think that was

[01:22:49] [SPEAKER_05]: pretty special

[01:22:50] [SPEAKER_05]: Mm-hmm and it's always good to look at a favorite universe from an entirely new perspective

[01:22:57] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah absolutely

[01:23:00] [SPEAKER_05]: Well put

[01:23:02] [SPEAKER_07]: Any thoughts to add or we let Marilyn speak eloquently for us all

[01:23:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Here here yeah

[01:23:09] [SPEAKER_07]: Come on guys

[01:23:11] [SPEAKER_07]: We do have some final thoughts from the community

[01:23:14] [SPEAKER_07]: There's just uh three final pieces of feedback one of them is from you Marilyn

[01:23:19] [SPEAKER_07]: So have you read that?

[01:23:22] [SPEAKER_04]: A little real writer in I will say very little if she's not on a podcast

[01:23:26] [SPEAKER_04]: She is quite loyal she even wants the freaking show it with house of dragon and

[01:23:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Just right soon. It's great. I mean yeah, there's a lot of stuff to ponder

[01:23:34] [SPEAKER_05]: It just depends on the podcast

[01:23:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, there's some podcasts you will not see me

[01:23:39] [SPEAKER_04]: You just share a lot of wisdom with us and I appreciate all

[01:23:43] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm glad it is perceived by you as wisdom

[01:23:46] [SPEAKER_07]: Value member of every community

[01:23:49] [SPEAKER_07]: Um, all right John, do you want to read Tom's back?

[01:23:54] [SPEAKER_04]: I would absolutely like to do that. I'm in Michael Scott mode for some reason on the way

[01:23:59] [SPEAKER_04]: All right

[01:24:00] [SPEAKER_04]: Tom triangle walks right in and says highly shan and john and high to Marilyn and john because they didn't know that

[01:24:08] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm gonna be here

[01:24:10] [SPEAKER_04]: Can't believe this season is over already

[01:24:12] [SPEAKER_04]: I mentally wrote in like five times and didn't actually manage it at all oops

[01:24:16] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm usually listening while striving around so whatever I think of to respond

[01:24:22] [SPEAKER_04]: I forget by the time I'm home been there Tom don't worry about it. Yeah, I haven't app for that

[01:24:28] [SPEAKER_07]: That I can just like speak a reminder into my phone and emails that to me

[01:24:32] [SPEAKER_05]: I have to have a pen and paper at my side and pause frequently to jot down notes

[01:24:37] [SPEAKER_07]: I recommend that app brain toss if anyone agrees

[01:24:42] [SPEAKER_04]: Just wanted to say I have been really impressed with the series overall

[01:24:46] [SPEAKER_04]: I wasn't really sure what the phone would be but have really enjoyed it

[01:24:50] [SPEAKER_04]: I bounced off the Mandalorian and everything else except and or but have very much enjoyed this the most

[01:24:56] [SPEAKER_04]: And the background from the Star Wars Cam and timeline podcast definitely meant I got a lot more out of it

[01:25:03] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you're here. That's great. Thank you. Thank you Tom

[01:25:05] [SPEAKER_04]: I loved Marilin's point in the last episode about soul being like a social worker very

[01:25:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Interesting way to think about him that hadn't occurred to me even though I work with social workers every day

[01:25:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Soul wanted to be the rescuing hero and that meant he needed to rescue Ocean and May

[01:25:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Regardless of if they needed or wanted this or if anyone else agreed

[01:25:26] [SPEAKER_05]: Wow

[01:25:28] [SPEAKER_04]: The one thing that I am left wondering why was Kelnaka the one who is so vulnerable to the witches influence

[01:25:34] [SPEAKER_04]: Apparently Torbin only needed like a day of focus to fortify his mind

[01:25:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Why it was Kelnaka a much more capable Jedi unable to stop this not sure if we will ever know as we didn't get much time to know the character

[01:25:47] [SPEAKER_07]: We're getting that comic coming out in September so

[01:25:51] [SPEAKER_07]: Hopefully that we'll find out. I hope why he has the tattoos on the side of his head that are shaped like that

[01:25:58] [SPEAKER_07]: So I'm wondering yeah, there's definitely some past drama

[01:26:00] [SPEAKER_07]: We will make John fill us in. Yes, well, I mean, I'm yeah read it and then John and I know no

[01:26:10] [SPEAKER_04]: I won't weigh in on spoiler gate except to say keep doing what you're doing have love the coverage and looking forward to carrying out with the podcast

[01:26:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Tom

[01:26:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you very much. It's lovely lovely sentiments

[01:26:22] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah

[01:26:22] [SPEAKER_07]: Is John do you want to read this with sub-zero said sure?

[01:26:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Thanks for writing in first of all and

[01:26:29] [SPEAKER_03]: They say been thinking more about the may-o-shah separation at the end

[01:26:33] [SPEAKER_03]: My head can and is that Kai-me would have killed me otherwise hence why OSHA had to bargain for me's life

[01:26:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Initially I thought it was because Kai-me is so amazed as a failed

[01:26:44] [SPEAKER_03]: I could like while that is true. I think the real reason is because he needed to have OSHA firms to himself

[01:26:50] [SPEAKER_03]: If may-o-shah stay together Kai-me would always be

[01:26:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Third wheel and eventually the twins would band together and take Kai-me or down

[01:26:59] [SPEAKER_03]: I think he recognized the threat and needed to nip it in the bud

[01:27:04] [SPEAKER_03]: I may tell him my critique that the reasoning for this forced separation was not clearly conveyed to the viewer

[01:27:10] [SPEAKER_03]: I was quite confused on first watch

[01:27:14] [SPEAKER_05]: Comment I agree with that. Yeah, yeah interesting

[01:27:20] [SPEAKER_05]: Notion of may-o-shah banding together against him. Yeah, yeah

[01:27:26] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I think that yeah, that is a good point

[01:27:29] [SPEAKER_07]: But I still think that there's something to it always seem to me like he has more affection for me than it seems like even

[01:27:36] [SPEAKER_07]: He didn't want hard to betray him

[01:27:38] [SPEAKER_07]: but when he went after her I didn't see him wholeheartedly and then he like would help her like cut her bindings or something like that

[01:27:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Like if Palpatine had been walking with Duku and Duku didn't know his him and Duku like yeah, I'm thinking about betraying my master

[01:27:52] [SPEAKER_04]: It's not even a relationship

[01:27:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I think it was the betrayal more than anything else the fact that she was ready to go back to the Jedi and tell them everything

[01:28:03] [SPEAKER_04]: She knew you know this email actually

[01:28:07] [SPEAKER_04]: Makes me think about something that I had wanted to talk about spoiler-wise that I totally blanked on which was we have seen

[01:28:14] [SPEAKER_04]: a Sith master go and take down a possible

[01:28:19] [SPEAKER_04]: You know a apprentice of apprentice or a rogue sit when we see in the Clone Wars Palpatine goes and hunt down

[01:28:25] [SPEAKER_07]: Moll's brother right right well, he takes out yeah, he takes out

[01:28:32] [SPEAKER_07]: Ventress was considered an accolite right right right right and he sends Duku to take out like

[01:28:38] [SPEAKER_04]: Her whole family right yeah, I mean definitely my point was just precedent for this and I wonderful

[01:28:45] [SPEAKER_04]: See something similar with play guess

[01:28:48] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, well Palpatine seems to be something of a culmination of the whole

[01:28:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Sith

[01:28:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, why is the answer of the rule of two right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's a chosen one on that side in a way

[01:29:01] [SPEAKER_07]: I suppose

[01:29:03] [SPEAKER_05]: Maybe he emerged in time to balance out Anakin

[01:29:06] [SPEAKER_07]: Well, you know balancing the work yeah in the end

[01:29:12] [SPEAKER_07]: Well, I guess in the end like if we're supposed to take Luke as being light and so I guess that makes Luke it's Asha and Palpatine or

[01:29:21] [SPEAKER_07]: Sidiis I don't know where you should come at that point is

[01:29:24] [SPEAKER_07]: Bogun the dark then that means Anakin's Ben-Doo the balance

[01:29:30] [SPEAKER_05]: Mm-hmm. Well that was what giant one said would you say that was what that was what quite on said was that he is there to restore the balance

[01:29:39] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean light and dark

[01:29:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Which you know whether or not the showman or his inscript writers decided to take that up

[01:29:46] [SPEAKER_05]: Isn't other matter altogether

[01:29:50] [SPEAKER_07]: So our 30 malls from you, Maryland you want to read it for us and we can pause and discuss oh sure

[01:29:57] [SPEAKER_05]: Hello, Alicia and John and Joel

[01:29:59] [SPEAKER_05]: And Maryland

[01:30:01] [SPEAKER_05]: Your question on soul and betrayal really got me thinking a bit it seems to me that soul and then an open parenthesis soul

[01:30:09] [SPEAKER_05]: Question mark SOU

[01:30:11] [SPEAKER_05]: He's probably the most soulful character of the series so far

[01:30:15] [SPEAKER_05]: It seems to me that soul is a mirror what we see in his story depends on what we bring to it

[01:30:22] [SPEAKER_05]: Did for Nester betray him or did she in fact honor him by doing what he would have wanted

[01:30:27] [SPEAKER_05]: Continuing to protect the Jedi reputation as best they both could

[01:30:32] [SPEAKER_05]: Soul wanted the truth of the events on brandok to come out to the Jedi

[01:30:37] [SPEAKER_05]: May OSHA's creation the virgins do uses of the force by the oven a possible sifting

[01:30:43] [SPEAKER_05]: Kite near he wanted both man OSHA to know what happened and why

[01:30:48] [SPEAKER_05]: He wanted to find resolution to his guilt in the end. I think he got all of these things

[01:30:53] [SPEAKER_05]: And his heart was broken by the flipping of OSHA

[01:30:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Mind you my baseline belief is that suppressing truth rarely results in good outcomes

[01:31:02] [SPEAKER_05]: But I suppose that also depends on how long an arc you follow

[01:31:05] [SPEAKER_05]: Actions lead to consequences each actions lead to consequences

[01:31:09] [SPEAKER_05]: Who can say for sure whether or not blaming all on soul was in fact the best choice to make

[01:31:16] [SPEAKER_05]: thoughts

[01:31:18] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, no, I think you bring up some good points especially about what you said about soul story being a mirror because

[01:31:26] [SPEAKER_07]: He is the character on the show who perhaps more than anyone other than perhaps OSHA may if he count them as one

[01:31:32] [SPEAKER_07]: He reflects all sides, you know

[01:31:35] [SPEAKER_07]: He did one of the worst things in the show arguably

[01:31:38] [SPEAKER_07]: I mean

[01:31:39] [SPEAKER_07]: Not really worse than anybody else I guess but also he's the character that we immediately

[01:31:44] [SPEAKER_07]: Latched onto from the beginning. You know, he's the Qui-Gon. He's the good one. He's the light

[01:31:51] [SPEAKER_07]: Everyone except Sean I guess

[01:31:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, and I think we were directed to do that and sometimes if you feel like you're being directed to firmly

[01:31:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Then you just kind of kick back in push back anyway. Yeah, I

[01:32:04] [SPEAKER_03]: disagree

[01:32:06] [SPEAKER_03]: a lot of the salt

[01:32:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Stuff because I think you know

[01:32:13] [SPEAKER_03]: If we're I can't imagine

[01:32:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Being in a position where

[01:32:20] [SPEAKER_03]: He's put in right

[01:32:22] [SPEAKER_03]: This you know like in forcer of some sort of dogma

[01:32:29] [SPEAKER_03]: He's also, you know trying to look out for the best of

[01:32:34] [SPEAKER_03]: You know

[01:32:36] [SPEAKER_03]: For everyone right

[01:32:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Trying to be the best version of himself as well trying to be a protector of

[01:32:44] [SPEAKER_03]: You know persons of people

[01:32:47] [SPEAKER_03]: But

[01:32:49] [SPEAKER_03]: The failing of solace to not recognize his on humorous

[01:32:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Like every time that he had a choice to make he made the choice

[01:32:57] [SPEAKER_03]: based on what he felt

[01:33:01] [SPEAKER_03]: He needed

[01:33:03] [SPEAKER_03]: He needed to save OSHA and

[01:33:07] [SPEAKER_03]: May not because they needed saving but because he needed to do so

[01:33:12] [SPEAKER_03]: His calculus was that

[01:33:15] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm watching something that is harmful

[01:33:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Even though I don't know what it's about and I have to step in

[01:33:24] [SPEAKER_03]: That leads to tragic outcomes for too many times

[01:33:30] [SPEAKER_03]: And this is another time that tragic outcomes

[01:33:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Where the result of someone

[01:33:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Trying to be the best version of themselves without really

[01:33:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Understanding what that means

[01:33:47] [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't see any glimmer of

[01:33:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Recognition to that point when he passes

[01:33:57] [SPEAKER_03]: I

[01:33:59] [SPEAKER_03]: He's sadden because it's OSHA he's looking at but I don't know if he's saddened

[01:34:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Because OSHA has turned quote on quote or if he's saddened that

[01:34:09] [SPEAKER_03]: The truth is out there and how she's looking at him

[01:34:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Like I felt in that moment I didn't feel like he was

[01:34:21] [SPEAKER_03]: At all

[01:34:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Remorseful in a way that was not about how OSHA was looking at him

[01:34:31] [SPEAKER_03]: For the things that he'd done that he had done

[01:34:35] [SPEAKER_07]: What do you think he meant when he said it's okay at the last moment?

[01:34:39] [SPEAKER_03]: He resigned himself to the fact that she was this was what she was going to do

[01:34:45] [SPEAKER_03]: But in that breath it's like it's okay

[01:34:50] [SPEAKER_03]: but

[01:34:51] [SPEAKER_03]: What does that mean it's okay? It's okay because of what I did to you

[01:34:57] [SPEAKER_03]: I just I don't buy the redemption of Saul because I don't think he

[01:35:04] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think he felt bad for what he did

[01:35:07] [SPEAKER_03]: I think he died believing in what he did

[01:35:12] [SPEAKER_07]: How do you think what do you think about the tarnishing of his reputation beyond what he actually did after his death?

[01:35:19] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean that's you know that's a

[01:35:22] [SPEAKER_03]: The Nestra thing that's her guilt

[01:35:24] [SPEAKER_03]: But okay, you know she's gonna have to deal with her guilt now it's over there on John

[01:35:30] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, wait that with Saul

[01:35:33] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm not gonna say what you're doing. I'm not going to do that see what you're doing

[01:35:36] [SPEAKER_03]: You were a cat lover

[01:35:41] [SPEAKER_03]: You know she's gonna have to deal with that guilt of the truth of what she had and she's gonna you know

[01:35:47] [SPEAKER_03]: That's gonna come out eventually

[01:35:52] [SPEAKER_03]: I just but again, I just don't buy his redemption because I don't think he felt that he did anything wrong

[01:36:00] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, I'm not sure about that no, I know I know

[01:36:04] [SPEAKER_05]: When he said it's okay, I think he was

[01:36:08] [SPEAKER_05]: telling OSHA

[01:36:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Go ahead and kill me. Yeah, I understand your anger your anger is justified

[01:36:16] [SPEAKER_05]: Given the path he who chose and that is the logical thing to do

[01:36:21] [SPEAKER_05]: Almost I give you permission to kill me although it wasn't obviously at that level because at that point

[01:36:26] [SPEAKER_05]: You know he had been defeated but he was stopped didn't have any way to stop or so

[01:36:30] [SPEAKER_03]: The thing that I'm saying is that past she's chosen is because of him

[01:36:36] [SPEAKER_05]: And I don't think I think that might be not giving me enough credit for her on choice no

[01:36:41] [SPEAKER_05]: I would not want to

[01:36:45] [SPEAKER_05]: I would not want to say that her path is anything but her own to choose the path

[01:36:50] [SPEAKER_03]: I firmly believe that he set her on this path if he had owned up in the very beginning and

[01:36:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Not gone the way that

[01:37:03] [SPEAKER_03]: And are one of them to go which he was clearly you know questioning at the time

[01:37:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Right and had been honest any point in their relationship with what had transpired

[01:37:14] [SPEAKER_03]: She would she have been angry will she have been mad will she have been hurt?

[01:37:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely, which you have killed them maybe not

[01:37:22] [SPEAKER_05]: Well probably not if she's you know a new pet one and then in the Jedi temple

[01:37:26] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't think that would go down to well with people but whether Jedi temple or not what I'm saying is that

[01:37:32] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think she makes those choices

[01:37:34] [SPEAKER_03]: That's made at the end

[01:37:36] [SPEAKER_07]: I think she was as mad about him lying to her for 16 years is killing her mother maybe yes

[01:37:43] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, no

[01:37:44] [SPEAKER_03]: So that's that's my whole thing. I just never felt that he

[01:37:47] [SPEAKER_03]: had any sense of

[01:37:50] [SPEAKER_03]: force for

[01:37:52] [SPEAKER_03]: What the reason he did what he did

[01:37:57] [SPEAKER_03]: That's that's I guess that's my point

[01:37:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, and I think he had massive amounts of it right yeah

[01:38:02] [SPEAKER_05]: So I'm in between I'm baby bear

[01:38:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh no

[01:38:07] [SPEAKER_03]: That is not acceptable

[01:38:09] [SPEAKER_07]: Mary Mary Lindsay when I continue sure

[01:38:13] [SPEAKER_05]: Again, I think the background of all these events is so incredibly important

[01:38:17] [SPEAKER_05]: As I understand it, but please correct me if I'm wrong the Jedi have not too long ago

[01:38:22] [SPEAKER_05]: Just barely managed to overcome a very serious threat

[01:38:26] [SPEAKER_05]: The Nihil yeah, I love the association with nihilism by the way. There's a few spelling is very close

[01:38:33] [SPEAKER_05]: To use of the force and to establish cultures that's sorry

[01:38:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Barely managed to overcome a very serious threat to use of the force and to establish cultures throughout the galaxy

[01:38:44] [SPEAKER_05]: I think they are still shaken by this the Jedi and it is particularly difficult for them to know who to trust and when

[01:38:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Even with their force-based mental abilities which I suspect they may not use at the top of a hat

[01:38:57] [SPEAKER_05]: Particularly on allies. I don't think it's something that they you know go around scanning everybody 247

[01:39:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Members of the Senate will have been equally shaken by this encounter and as a so often the case of free to things they don't understand or experience themselves

[01:39:14] [SPEAKER_05]: Who gets to oversee whom in this situation and how can the Jedi answer questions when they don't know the answers themselves

[01:39:22] [SPEAKER_05]: Frankly at this point I fear the Senate more than I fear the creepy Sith Lord and Kymers cave thoughts

[01:39:30] [SPEAKER_07]: I think that that might actually be the thing for the second season is like you see playguess

[01:39:36] [SPEAKER_07]: You know like oh he's the threat, but actually it's the more mundane things

[01:39:41] [SPEAKER_07]: That creep up in the background and end up being the more immediate threat

[01:39:46] [SPEAKER_05]: By the way, and in terms of civil war, I'm definitely on cap side

[01:39:55] [SPEAKER_05]: It's so easy to judge the actions of other people in the past says the historian

[01:40:01] [SPEAKER_05]: Sometimes hindsight is 2020 but sometimes it just has no idea what was actually going on at the time and how that felt

[01:40:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Again, I find responsibility a much more useful thing to focus on than blame and

[01:40:13] [SPEAKER_05]: the force that Dronesstra is finally approaching Yoda and what I hope is some wisdom

[01:40:19] [SPEAKER_05]: There is so much of the stories still to tell how could they possibly not give us a second season

[01:40:25] [SPEAKER_05]: All the best Marilyn and by the way, I'd love to see Saul as a force ghost

[01:40:29] [SPEAKER_07]: But I'd be gobsmacked if they actually did it. Yeah, I think they might be at the point in the timeline

[01:40:34] [SPEAKER_07]: I at some point they forget how to do it and I'm assuming it's before this

[01:40:39] [SPEAKER_05]: Ah

[01:40:41] [SPEAKER_07]: And then they pick it up and then

[01:40:43] [SPEAKER_07]: Quiet on it's the one who read a scar on someone

[01:40:46] [SPEAKER_04]: If you know that we could talk about it Yoda relearns the whole thing in the Clone Wars, right?

[01:40:50] [SPEAKER_07]: So he can't know how to do it before that. Right, okay, right this sure

[01:40:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I've been in old republics go

[01:40:59] [SPEAKER_07]: Saul is one with the force no in any case. Yes, oh and where did Jackie say that it's

[01:41:04] [SPEAKER_07]: Beautiful watch someone become one with the force and then next episode

[01:41:10] [SPEAKER_07]: She does yeah

[01:41:12] [SPEAKER_07]: It's still it's so weird like that she was one of my favorite characters, but still my favorite episode is the morning

[01:41:17] [SPEAKER_07]: Which she dies because there was just so cool the way she died and she went out strong

[01:41:22] [SPEAKER_07]: You know, you're not strong

[01:41:24] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean for a character who was there for less than half of the entire season

[01:41:30] [SPEAKER_05]: The impact that she's had is extraordinarily I think that's

[01:41:35] [SPEAKER_05]: Partly you know the way they wrote her, but I think it's also credit to the actors. Yeah, definitely keen yeah, yep

[01:41:44] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah and your adhord we see you too

[01:41:48] [SPEAKER_07]: Yes

[01:41:50] [SPEAKER_07]: All right well I guess that brings our accolite season one discussion to a close

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[01:45:28] [SPEAKER_04]: Plenty of stuff

[01:45:29] [SPEAKER_04]: Plenty of stuff rings and rituals man. Oh, the money you tell of what's going on in recent rituals

[01:45:33] [SPEAKER_05]: Well as of the where I'm of this recording the final episode for season one of rings and rituals will be coming up tomorrow

[01:45:40] [SPEAKER_05]: But by the time you hear this it will already have been out

[01:45:46] [SPEAKER_05]: And

[01:45:47] [SPEAKER_05]: Both saran. I are already very eager to see season two, but we're not going to

[01:45:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Start our season two of rings and rituals for a while after that. I don't really know how long at this point

[01:45:58] [SPEAKER_05]: But we think it works best to let everything simmer and marinate for a while

[01:46:02] [SPEAKER_05]: Before we turn to the kind of analysis that we do so

[01:46:06] [SPEAKER_05]: Everybody's been very lovely with your comments and enthusiastic. It's gonna be a fun feed back episode

[01:46:11] [SPEAKER_07]: So I hope that listeners will enjoy it as well and you're gonna be talking about rings of power live

[01:46:19] [SPEAKER_05]: John and David right? I am still looking forward to the omniscient kid in the can use store

[01:46:23] [SPEAKER_04]: I hope we help we help that would be a great time see I'm I'm trying to now pitch a third podcast for the show

[01:46:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, we a

[01:46:33] [SPEAKER_04]: A lower cast where we dive into like a very specific piece of lore

[01:46:37] [SPEAKER_04]: That had to do with the episode it might be too much

[01:46:40] [SPEAKER_04]: But I think we could do it in like a 30 minute chunk right like just this hey

[01:46:45] [SPEAKER_04]: All right

[01:46:46] [SPEAKER_04]: We're gonna talk about the sun wake into and then it's all over

[01:46:50] [SPEAKER_05]: 30 minutes no no no no no no I love you dearly John. I you your optimism never ceases to

[01:46:59] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm certainly not a siff all right

[01:47:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Fair enough fair enough. Let's talk wait David's gonna get a thought yes, it'd be like what the hell is he planning

[01:47:08] [SPEAKER_05]: John I will talk low with you anytime anywhere that we have mutually matching schedules so there you go

[01:47:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Let's just leave it at that. There you go. Let's see. Let's see

[01:47:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Other than that house of the dragon is keeping going we're gonna do rings of power in the fall of course and

[01:47:23] [SPEAKER_04]: Plenty of of more content coming still marillion stories

[01:47:27] [SPEAKER_04]: I have an episode with new better do better coming out next week. Yeah, and really great guy by the way very very very smart person

[01:47:34] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean he knows

[01:47:36] fabulous

[01:47:37] [SPEAKER_04]: And I have I have guest lined up now through like October so

[01:47:42] [SPEAKER_04]: We have plenty of plenty of people coming. Excellent. Gonna be very exciting

[01:47:45] [SPEAKER_04]: And yeah, just keeping going with stuff. I know David has alien stuff coming

[01:47:50] [SPEAKER_04]: But I'm trying to keep things to like the week of now because otherwise it gets too unruly

[01:47:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Right, so all of him tell you about that

[01:47:57] [SPEAKER_05]: Can I do one sort of commercial bit here sure? I will be a guest on

[01:48:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Lore of the rings will be love a ring. Yeah, he's great. We'll be recording

[01:48:11] [SPEAKER_05]: Next week of week after I don't know when it's gonna drop on his feet

[01:48:14] [SPEAKER_05]: But again, we're gonna talk about rings and rituals also and that sort of things so you can put that in as a

[01:48:23] [SPEAKER_05]: After dinner mint from the final feedback episode for season one

[01:48:29] [SPEAKER_07]: Cool and next week we're doing Deadpool and Wolverines. Yes, we are yeah

[01:48:36] [SPEAKER_04]: Fun

[01:48:37] [SPEAKER_04]: That's all I got all right

[01:48:40] [SPEAKER_07]: Shall we shall we do our thank yous? I do have music lined up of course. Oh, yes

[01:48:46] [SPEAKER_07]: Are you ready for this John?

[01:48:49] [SPEAKER_07]: I am so ready. All right here we go first song

[01:48:54] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh

[01:48:56] [SPEAKER_04]: We would like to thank our discord server boosters

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[01:50:38] [SPEAKER_04]: And in one morally shake, come on

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[01:50:47] [SPEAKER_04]: All right, Kathy W. Stewart B. Jeffrey B.

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[01:50:55] [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you all. You're all lovely people

[01:50:57] [SPEAKER_04]: And this is this has gotten too silly now.

[01:51:00] [SPEAKER_07]: I know this time I mean it.

[01:51:27] [SPEAKER_04]: Thanks for listening.