Silo S2 – Comic Con news!

[00:00:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to Wool-Shift-Dust. I'm Elysia and I'm here with Luke. Hi, Luke. Hi, Elysia. How you doing?

[00:00:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Good. Today we're going back to our roots to discuss the Silo series on Apple TV Plus. Do you miss

[00:00:39] [SPEAKER_00]: talking Silo? I do. I was thinking when you were playing the intro, I missed that little theme song.

[00:00:45] [SPEAKER_00]: I was sort of a bit discombobulated there for a second because I was expecting the beacon 23

[00:00:50] [SPEAKER_01]: of the music. Yeah. Yeah, well, the second Silo season approached it and sooner than we expected.

[00:00:59] [SPEAKER_01]: We learned at last weekend's Comic Con in San Diego that the season will start November 14th

[00:01:05] [SPEAKER_01]: and we learned who's playing solo, an important book character, and we learned some other stuff too.

[00:01:11] [SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to talk through it all with you today. And I'm representing the book readers

[00:01:17] [SPEAKER_01]: on this pod, but the spoiler policy is that we must protect Luke and a bunch of other listeners,

[00:01:24] [SPEAKER_01]: book innocence at all costs. We're going to of course spoil all of season one of the TV series

[00:01:31] [SPEAKER_01]: as we did in detail as that season was airing. And anything from the first half of Wool,

[00:01:37] [SPEAKER_01]: the book which is the basis of that season is fair game, but I will not spoil anything beyond

[00:01:43] [SPEAKER_01]: that point in the book. So the second season's going to be based off of the second half of

[00:01:47] [SPEAKER_01]: the book, Wool, except I will be mentioning what was shown and discussed during Comic Con

[00:01:53] [SPEAKER_01]: when there was a panel about season two and a bunch of interviews around that.

[00:01:57] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's mostly just tantalizing teases, but it does include a spoiler for a key scene

[00:02:02] [SPEAKER_01]: and basically this situation in this first episode. So some spoilers for the first episode

[00:02:09] [SPEAKER_01]: because that's what they shared publicly. And yeah, the big casting announcement that goes along

[00:02:14] [SPEAKER_01]: with that. But yeah, I will not spoil beyond that any of the plots of season two or anything

[00:02:22] [SPEAKER_01]: that I know is coming based on my book knowledge. So if you want the full breakdown of the books,

[00:02:27] [SPEAKER_01]: including the story of that new character played by Steve Zahn, then you'll find those in the

[00:02:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Wool Shift Us book club and you'll find those links in this show notes. I'll talk to you a

[00:02:36] [SPEAKER_01]: bit more about that at the end of the pod because there is a slight change of foot in that area.

[00:02:41] [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, just FYI for book club members, Abby and I now that we know that the season's coming

[00:02:48] [SPEAKER_01]: sooner than expected, we're going to be picking up the pace to complete the book series and the

[00:02:52] [SPEAKER_01]: rewatch in time for that. So I'll talk about that at the end.

[00:02:56] [SPEAKER_00]: I know.

[00:02:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Honestly, will Apple TV not think of the podcasters? Will somebody please think of the podcasters?

[00:03:03] [SPEAKER_01]: I know everybody's really excited that we are actually getting it in 2024. It seems

[00:03:09] [SPEAKER_01]: impossible to get a, especially like a sci-fi show one year after the other.

[00:03:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. And one that's quite effective as well. So yeah, QDOS to Apple TV for not letting the

[00:03:21] [SPEAKER_00]: grass grow under them.

[00:03:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Especially given they paused for a while, I think for like five months because of the

[00:03:27] [SPEAKER_01]: writer strike.

[00:03:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. I mean, hopefully that means that all the VFX people had the time they need and

[00:03:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Marvel films and like the VFX people being like helped a really unreasonable schedule.

[00:03:44] [SPEAKER_00]: So hopefully that hasn't happened.

[00:03:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I hope not because also what we've already seen there is a strike happening with some of

[00:03:53] [SPEAKER_01]: the voice actors for video games and there are other contracts coming up this year,

[00:03:58] [SPEAKER_01]: including VFX artists. So yeah, they've obviously got good cause to want better

[00:04:07] [SPEAKER_01]: conditions. We'll see.

[00:04:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but hopefully that hasn't happened with Scylla. I don't think it will.

[00:04:12] [SPEAKER_00]: No, hopefully that hasn't.

[00:04:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Graham Yost and you how we seem like reasonable people.

[00:04:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Right. Yeah. I mean, I guess, yeah, I don't know how much oversight Graham Yost has on it,

[00:04:22] [SPEAKER_01]: but hopefully he seems like someone who would be considered of that.

[00:04:27] [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, there was the panel took place on Saturday, July 27th in Ballroom 20,

[00:04:33] [SPEAKER_01]: which is a good showing that I think that's like the second biggest room there.

[00:04:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Luke and I did not get to go. We are in Europe. We are very far from San Diego.

[00:04:42] [SPEAKER_01]: One day. One day.

[00:04:45] [SPEAKER_01]: But a lot of the cast was there. So on the panel, we had Rebecca Ferguson who plays Juliette,

[00:04:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Common who plays Sims, Graham Yost, the showrunner Hugh Howie, the author and surprise

[00:04:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Steve Zahn who is there as a character named Solo. And we'll talk a bit more about

[00:05:02] [SPEAKER_01]: who Solo is in a little bit. But of course, the rest of the silo cast that isn't dead,

[00:05:08] [SPEAKER_01]: whose characters aren't dead yet will be returning as well.

[00:05:10] [SPEAKER_00]: I've got to say, like, I thought before we get to what was discussed in the panel,

[00:05:15] [SPEAKER_00]: I've got to talk a little bit about some of the stylistic choices that were made.

[00:05:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Because Hugh Howie, very bravely, I think in the context of the convention,

[00:05:25] [SPEAKER_00]: is walking around an open-toed sandal. So yeah, that is an invitation to foot jam right there.

[00:05:32] [SPEAKER_00]: And Common is wondering around what did look suspiciously like his pyjamas.

[00:05:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Common was very comfortable.

[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think Rebecca Ferguson called attention to Hugh Howie's footwear in one of the interviews.

[00:05:47] [SPEAKER_01]: But then I was noticing that there are, for instance, during the Fantastic Four panel,

[00:05:53] [SPEAKER_01]: what's her face? Oh man, I'm suddenly...

[00:05:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Vanessa Kirby?

[00:05:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Vanessa Kirby. She was wearing high heels but open-toed high heels.

[00:06:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, well, I guess that's the same thing. Just fancier.

[00:06:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's not a good choice for a convention.

[00:06:07] [SPEAKER_01]: No, but I was thinking I would wear a close toed shoes.

[00:06:09] [SPEAKER_01]: But of course, I don't think they're out there mingling with him.

[00:06:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Especially not Vanessa Kirby.

[00:06:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but yeah, Common, like he was wearing his pyjamas, he looked very comfortable.

[00:06:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Good for him. And he dropped a freestyle rap during the panel.

[00:06:25] [SPEAKER_01]: He did!

[00:06:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I did!

[00:06:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Anyone who's curious that I think Apple actually clipped that and put that on their own YouTube channel.

[00:06:34] [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, so the big news was, and they got Rebecca Ferguson to announce it, which was cute.

[00:06:40] [SPEAKER_01]: She was very excited about it. She was like, oh yeah, I have an announcement.

[00:06:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Season two will begin airing November 15th.

[00:06:48] [SPEAKER_01]: So it's going to be... They're only going to do one episode drop to begin with.

[00:06:52] [SPEAKER_01]: So none of this like double episode drop.

[00:06:54] [SPEAKER_01]: And then at least as far as we understand now, and it's going to be one episode per week for 10 weeks through January.

[00:07:02] [SPEAKER_01]: So we are planning to do weekly coverage like last season.

[00:07:06] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll see how we'll handle the week over Christmas.

[00:07:10] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll talk about that when we get closer.

[00:07:12] [SPEAKER_01]: And of course, we'll be back to talk more trailers and all the promotional stuff as the season is gearing up.

[00:07:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I think, yeah, you'll probably hear from us again.

[00:07:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe second half of September, that might be when they start dropping more marketing stuff. We'll see.

[00:07:26] [SPEAKER_01]: So Luke, we read and watched a bunch of interviews this week.

[00:07:30] [SPEAKER_01]: What about what you've heard now has you most excited?

[00:07:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I think the new character solo because that means we're meeting new people as we go into different silos.

[00:07:44] [SPEAKER_00]: We're meeting new characters and it's a chance to expand the universe.

[00:07:50] [SPEAKER_00]: I was pleasantly surprised that Ian Glenn, Daddy Doctor Nichols is back for season two.

[00:07:58] [SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't sure we'd be seeing that character again for a while.

[00:08:03] [SPEAKER_00]: But he didn't die, why?

[00:08:04] [SPEAKER_00]: He didn't die, but I wasn't sure where the story was going.

[00:08:08] [SPEAKER_00]: So I think that will be cool to see Daddy Doctor Nichols again.

[00:08:13] [SPEAKER_00]: I think Rebecca Ferguson said something really interesting in the panel,

[00:08:20] [SPEAKER_00]: which is she's talking about Jules and how Jules thinks.

[00:08:24] [SPEAKER_00]: And she's explained that Jules is an engineer.

[00:08:27] [SPEAKER_00]: She's a very logical person.

[00:08:29] [SPEAKER_00]: You're sort of a very problem solving person.

[00:08:32] [SPEAKER_00]: And that season two is going to require her to be more empathetic to do the thing that Jules

[00:08:39] [SPEAKER_00]: is not very good at, which is to relate to people.

[00:08:45] [SPEAKER_00]: So I thought that was interesting.

[00:08:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Also, I love Rebecca Ferguson whenever you get on these things.

[00:08:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Because you could see like Hugh Howie and Graham Yost take a slight intake of breath

[00:08:56] [SPEAKER_00]: whenever Rebecca Ferguson is answering a question because Rebecca Ferguson has no filter.

[00:09:01] [SPEAKER_00]: She will get white plot spoilers galore.

[00:09:05] [SPEAKER_00]: You could just see Graham Yost in particular.

[00:09:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think Graham Yost minds a lot more.

[00:09:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so we do know that the second season is based on the second half of the first book,

[00:09:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Wool, as I said.

[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_01]: I do think that it seems like there's a good chance they work in some shift stuff,

[00:09:26] [SPEAKER_01]: like elements of Solace Backstory.

[00:09:28] [SPEAKER_01]: But Hugh Howie keeps saying that almost all of the shift stuff is being held for season three.

[00:09:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Although, yeah, so shift the book.

[00:09:36] [SPEAKER_01]: It's what we've been breaking it down in the book club recently, the third episode,

[00:09:43] [SPEAKER_01]: the third and final part just came out.

[00:09:45] [SPEAKER_01]: But it is basically divided between the origin story of this whole system,

[00:09:51] [SPEAKER_01]: what's going on with, because now we know after the season one finale that there are a bunch of

[00:09:55] [SPEAKER_01]: silos.

[00:09:56] [SPEAKER_01]: So you find out how the world became the way it is.

[00:09:59] [SPEAKER_01]: And then there's also it's intercut with things from the history of both.

[00:10:06] [SPEAKER_01]: And now we can say they announced it during Comic-Con.

[00:10:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Silo 18 is the silo where we spent the first season.

[00:10:13] [SPEAKER_01]: That's yeah, that's Jules Silo.

[00:10:14] [SPEAKER_01]: And also the history of the Silo where we find solo, the Silo Next Door.

[00:10:21] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think it's safe now to tell you to point out regular listeners might remember Sam,

[00:10:28] [SPEAKER_01]: who sadly no longer with us, but Sam's Twitter name was at Silo 17 Squad.

[00:10:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[00:10:41] [SPEAKER_01]: And Sam's favorite character was solo.

[00:10:44] [SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be such a shame that she's not here to see series too.

[00:10:49] [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I mean, I think we'd obviously we know at the end of season one that we'd seen

[00:10:56] [SPEAKER_00]: multiple silos.

[00:10:57] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think it was it was sort of heavily implied that something had gone wrong with at least

[00:11:04] [SPEAKER_00]: some of this these are the silos.

[00:11:06] [SPEAKER_00]: What I'm going to find really interesting is the extent to which these silos are self-contained

[00:11:14] [SPEAKER_00]: worlds or are they actually part of a network interconnected with each other?

[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_00]: So do they share things like oxygen, water?

[00:11:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Do they have like a central sort?

[00:11:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Are they tapping into geothermal energy together to what extent are they silos and to what extent are they

[00:11:34] [SPEAKER_00]: network?

[00:11:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Spoken yet, but yeah, they are the hubs in that work.

[00:11:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I just said expectations.

[00:11:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I will say a lot of there's going to be you will get some answers in this season,

[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_01]: but a lot of those things about the bigger world of what exactly is going on

[00:11:55] [SPEAKER_01]: will be season three things because there's a second book things.

[00:11:58] [SPEAKER_01]: But you there, but there's satisfying mysteries and answers and like we got in the first half.

[00:12:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:12:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:12:05] [SPEAKER_01]: And you're definitely going to see your yeah, they tell you they told you a comic con jewels.

[00:12:12] [SPEAKER_01]: She does not die as soon as the second season opens.

[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_01]: She finds her way inside another silo and you get to find out the story of that silo.

[00:12:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, like I don't think anybody was expecting Rebecca Ferguson,

[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_00]: international film star and executive producer to keel over in the end of that

[00:12:29] [SPEAKER_00]: to keel over at the beginning of episode one.

[00:12:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it would be kind of a crappy as well.

[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I guess it wouldn't be beyond this show if she just gets up to the ridge and she's

[00:12:38] [SPEAKER_01]: like, wow, look, there's more silos.

[00:12:43] [SPEAKER_01]: But it doesn't mean it's going to be easy for her.

[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_01]: So just to remind everybody last season ended at the midpoint of the book will with Juliet

[00:12:51] [SPEAKER_01]: getting sent out to clean, which means cleaning the screens, the sensors that feed video footage

[00:12:58] [SPEAKER_01]: of the wasteland outside to screens in the cafeteria is throughout the silo.

[00:13:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Cleaning is a death sentence, especially as it turns out the cleaning suits are

[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_01]: designed to break down once the job is done killing the person inside.

[00:13:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Juliet, however, with the help of her lifelong friend, Martha Walker,

[00:13:15] [SPEAKER_01]: has received a specially reinforced cleaning suit that will last much longer.

[00:13:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Outside she discovers that cleaners are given fake green views in their helmet visors to

[00:13:26] [SPEAKER_01]: motivate them to clean, but the landscape is really as desolate as it looks through

[00:13:30] [SPEAKER_01]: the screen shown in the cafeteria.

[00:13:31] [SPEAKER_01]: But her silo of 10,000 souls is not alone.

[00:13:35] [SPEAKER_01]: It turns out there are many other silos and I don't think they said exactly

[00:13:40] [SPEAKER_01]: how many in season one, but since they did a comic con, I can say it here.

[00:13:43] [SPEAKER_01]: There are 50 silos and yeah, we were in silo 18 in season one.

[00:13:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[00:13:51] [SPEAKER_00]: And so we find out relatively early on in episode one that we also told this in

[00:13:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Comic Con that something had gone catastrophic leak wrong in silo 17.

[00:14:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:14:03] [SPEAKER_00]: And everybody bar one person is dead and that's where we get our new character solo from.

[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_00]: He is that one person.

[00:14:12] [SPEAKER_00]: He is the Dave Lister of silo 17.

[00:14:16] [SPEAKER_01]: So to quote Grammy-O's the showrunner himself in a print interview,

[00:14:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Entertainment Weekly print interview, he said she's alive.

[00:14:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[00:14:24] [SPEAKER_01]: But when season two picks up immediately, her problems are only getting worse as

[00:14:28] [SPEAKER_01]: she must find a way to get out of the toxic air and safely into a new silo.

[00:14:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Juliet has a very difficult time getting into this other silo and she's looking for

[00:14:37] [SPEAKER_01]: safety because her suit is running out of air.

[00:14:40] [SPEAKER_01]: This wondrous tape that Walker has arranged for her to have her suit wrapped in,

[00:14:45] [SPEAKER_01]: that's going to fail.

[00:14:46] [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of the episode is about Juliet just trying to survive and the engineering stuff

[00:14:50] [SPEAKER_01]: she has to do to try to stay alive.

[00:14:54] [SPEAKER_01]: And it says that although the premiere follows Juliet, it doesn't actually start with her.

[00:14:59] [SPEAKER_01]: It does start with, it does start another silo and a rebellion gone very wrong.

[00:15:06] [SPEAKER_01]: And I have to say this Entertainment Weekly article shares more details about this scene,

[00:15:13] [SPEAKER_01]: this opening scene that I'm going to share here.

[00:15:16] [SPEAKER_01]: But check the link in the show notes if you want to read the interview and see that as well.

[00:15:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:15:22] [SPEAKER_01]: And so the rebellion stuff actually in the other silo, I'm pretty sure,

[00:15:29] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah, we get that in shift, the second book.

[00:15:31] [SPEAKER_01]: So that is one thing they're taking from the second book.

[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_01]: So I do wonder if there will be more stuff from shift in this second season, more backstory.

[00:15:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Because obviously we hear in season one that there was a rebellion in silo 18 that was

[00:15:46] [SPEAKER_00]: successfully repressed or failed to achieve its objective in terms of getting

[00:15:55] [SPEAKER_00]: out and opening silo.

[00:15:56] [SPEAKER_00]: So I wonder, are these two rebellions distinct events that take place in two different silos

[00:16:04] [SPEAKER_00]: at two different points in time?

[00:16:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Or was there some large rebellion that affected the entire network of all 50 silos

[00:16:14] [SPEAKER_00]: at the same time?

[00:16:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Or did it spread through the silos over a period of time?

[00:16:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Or are these two distinct events?

[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_00]: I guess I'm going back to my original question of how separate

[00:16:25] [SPEAKER_00]: are these different silos?

[00:16:27] [SPEAKER_00]: To what extent are they?

[00:16:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Was there a point at which, was there a point at some point in the past

[00:16:32] [SPEAKER_00]: where they were a single cohesive society that over time has broken down into individual silos?

[00:16:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:16:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:16:42] [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to start using on the Lorehunds network, John has started using a wheel of

[00:16:48] [SPEAKER_01]: time fan term, which is Wafo watch and find out.

[00:16:52] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's what I'm going to start saying when I can't properly address a question you bring up.

[00:16:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:16:58] [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to circle around that and we're going to come back to it.

[00:17:04] [SPEAKER_01]: What I can say because this is what they said in the interview is

[00:17:09] [SPEAKER_01]: there is a comparison, I mean you have to think that this rebellion happened,

[00:17:16] [SPEAKER_01]: obviously Juliet knows that there was a rebellion in her own silo in her past.

[00:17:20] [SPEAKER_01]: She's seeing the aftermath of a different rebellion and she knows there was a rebellion,

[00:17:25] [SPEAKER_01]: like things were not going the right way in silo 18 before she left.

[00:17:29] [SPEAKER_01]: So she's got to be thinking, oh God this is what can happen.

[00:17:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah I know they did say in the Comic-Con panel and then a few other magazine interviews that

[00:17:40] [SPEAKER_00]: basically season two is going to be storytelling in two parts.

[00:17:46] [SPEAKER_00]: There are going to be episodes that focus on Juliet and Silo 17 and there are going to be

[00:17:50] [SPEAKER_00]: episodes that focus on...

[00:17:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah well they said the first two episodes, the first one is pretty much entire,

[00:17:56] [SPEAKER_01]: is all Juliet and then the second one is like all Silo 18 and then he said that they would...

[00:18:00] [SPEAKER_01]: They into color.

[00:18:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah yeah.

[00:18:04] [SPEAKER_01]: And for book readers, Yoast said season two will finish adapting the book wool in

[00:18:09] [SPEAKER_01]: quote unquote a slightly different way.

[00:18:12] [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah so they're going to keep us on our toes just like Luke likes.

[00:18:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah well I don't like this, I don't like Alicia to be the fountain of all wisdom.

[00:18:22] [SPEAKER_00]: I like to be thrown off just occasionally, just to keep things interesting.

[00:18:27] [SPEAKER_01]: And Yoast also says the second season will be scary and that's not going off book.

[00:18:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:18:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[00:18:34] [SPEAKER_01]: So from a screen rant interview we got a description of this scene, so I'll link that in

[00:18:41] [SPEAKER_01]: the show notes as well, this screen rant interview.

[00:18:43] [SPEAKER_01]: We got a description of the scene that they got to see at Comic-Con which I wish I'd gotten to see.

[00:18:50] [SPEAKER_01]: And they said footage from the Silo season two premiere was shown,

[00:18:55] [SPEAKER_01]: the footage features Juliet crossing a large chasm inside an abandoned Silo

[00:18:59] [SPEAKER_01]: after almost falling to her death.

[00:19:02] [SPEAKER_01]: She makes it to the other side finding a human corpse hearing music.

[00:19:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Juliet sets out to find its source uncovering a room full of dead bodies.

[00:19:10] [SPEAKER_01]: She also finds a metal door with a keypad however and a new character played by Steve

[00:19:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Zahn peers out warning her that if she tries to open his door he'll kill her.

[00:19:21] [SPEAKER_01]: So there was already some differences from the book but nothing like nothing huge because yes

[00:19:28] [SPEAKER_01]: she discovers this guy in the Silo that she goes into.

[00:19:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Same idea, same vibes.

[00:19:36] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to selectively read from the same passage from the book Wool that this is based

[00:19:40] [SPEAKER_01]: on to give you more of an idea but I'm going to skip over the parts that's our little bit

[00:19:45] [SPEAKER_01]: spoilery.

[00:19:47] [SPEAKER_01]: So to set it up basically same as they discussed at Comic-Con Juliet believes she's alone

[00:19:53] [SPEAKER_01]: in the Silo but in the book it's not music that alerts her there might be someone else

[00:19:57] [SPEAKER_01]: but footsteps and these footsteps start running away as soon as she calls out so

[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_01]: she stopped on 32 to listen holding her breath to keep quiet was almost impossible.

[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Her lungs were crying out for deep gulps of air but she remains still the pulse and her palms

[00:20:12] [SPEAKER_01]: beating against the cool railing the distinct sound of footsteps still below her and louder now

[00:20:16] [SPEAKER_01]: she was catching up.

[00:20:18] [SPEAKER_01]: She took off again emboldened taking the steps three at a time her body sideways as

[00:20:23] [SPEAKER_01]: she danced down the stairs as she had in youth one hand on the curved railing the other held out

[00:20:27] [SPEAKER_01]: in front of her for balance.

[00:20:29] [SPEAKER_01]: The balls of her feet just barely touching a tread before she was flying down to the next

[00:20:33] [SPEAKER_01]: concentrating lest she slip a spill could be deadly at such speeds images of casts on arms

[00:20:39] [SPEAKER_01]: and legs and stories of the unfortunate elderly with broken hips came to mind.

[00:20:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Still she pushed her limits positively flying 33 went by in a blaze half a spiral later

[00:20:50] [SPEAKER_01]: over her footfalls she heard a door slam she stopped and looked up she leaned over the railing

[00:20:56] [SPEAKER_01]: and peered down the footfalls were gone leaving just the sound of her panting for air skipping.

[00:21:02] [SPEAKER_01]: There was a scraping sound near the far wall the sound of metal sliding on metal Juliet ran in

[00:21:07] [SPEAKER_01]: that direction wondering who the hell this was running from her and where they planned to hide

[00:21:12] [SPEAKER_01]: she could see a portion of the floor moving a section of metal great sliding to cover a

[00:21:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Juliet dove to the floor her tablecloth garb wrapping up her legs her hands seizing the

[00:21:22] [SPEAKER_01]: edge of the cover before it could close right in front of her she saw the knuckles and fingers

[00:21:26] [SPEAKER_01]: of a man's hands gripping the edge of the great there was a startled scream a grunt of effort

[00:21:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Juliet tried to yank back on the gate but had no leverage one of the hands disappeared

[00:21:35] [SPEAKER_01]: a knife took its place snicking against the gate hunting for her fingers.

[00:21:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah that sounds tense that sounds really tense but also kind of fun like I'm gonna do

[00:21:48] [SPEAKER_00]: that on a bit stutter curling fly upstairs now that sounded like it was fun.

[00:21:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah somebody asked Rebecca Ferguson and Steve Zahn is solo a threat to Juliet or a helper

[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_00]: to Juliet and they both answered yes. Yeah that's a typical comic on panel answer that is.

[00:22:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah Zahn called his character a middle-aged man with the mentality of a 10 year old and I'll

[00:22:15] [SPEAKER_01]: just say that that does not mean he has a limited IQ or anything I'll let the show explain the

[00:22:19] [SPEAKER_00]: rest but also if you were you were to sort of set that as we need somebody who's a middle-aged

[00:22:26] [SPEAKER_00]: man with a mentality of a 10 year old who do we get to play that? Steve Zahn is perfect.

[00:22:30] [SPEAKER_01]: That must have been like a 10 minute conversation. Like why did I not think of this before to be honest?

[00:22:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah we also heard they could yeah said at the panel Juliet is the first of any of the silos

[00:22:44] [SPEAKER_01]: to walk over the hill like that which causes chaos back in silo 18 and yeah we do have to worry

[00:22:52] [SPEAKER_01]: about that rebellion that was brewing. Haman said that Sims job just got a lot harder.

[00:22:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah I think I think Sims and Bernard may be the two most interesting characters in season two. I mean

[00:23:05] [SPEAKER_00]: they kind of were in season one but yeah you know the rubber is about to hit the road from their

[00:23:11] [SPEAKER_00]: point of view and I think Sims in particular you know there's going to be the divided law

[00:23:18] [SPEAKER_00]: and I think common touched on this in the comic on panel there's going to be the divided

[00:23:22] [SPEAKER_00]: loyalty that was kind of set up a little bit in season one between his immediate family and

[00:23:29] [SPEAKER_00]: the sort of broader ideals of judicial in terms of protecting the silo protecting society. I love

[00:23:36] [SPEAKER_00]: listening to common talk about Sims because it's clear that like common understands that Sims is

[00:23:45] [SPEAKER_00]: a complicated guy and in many ways not a good guy but I think common has a really sort of profound

[00:23:53] [SPEAKER_00]: empathy with him he really has a really good understanding of what motivates Sims and

[00:23:59] [SPEAKER_00]: why Sims does what he does. Yeah and I think you know some actors some actors are very good at

[00:24:07] [SPEAKER_00]: portraying that kind of thing on screen but not good at explaining it and talking about it in an

[00:24:11] [SPEAKER_01]: interview context common is really good at that. Yeah no I agree he said yet that Sims has a life

[00:24:19] [SPEAKER_01]: shaped by singular purpose but after his family was threatened that singular belief has been shaken up so

[00:24:24] [SPEAKER_01]: it'd be interesting. I'm also wondering you know what our deputy boys up to as well. Yeah

[00:24:32] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah I'm excited to see the whole gang and if how many minor characters might make a come back

[00:24:38] [SPEAKER_01]: like I'm wondering if Glory is going to come back up with the whole flame keepers thing. Yeah

[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm hoping for more of that. On that note let's take a quick break and when we come back I will

[00:24:50] [SPEAKER_01]: tell you a bit more about Comic Con. See you in just a minute. So one did you see the bit on the

[00:25:01] [SPEAKER_01]: panel where they talked about the title of the first episode which is again going to be Juliet

[00:25:07] [SPEAKER_01]: in the new silo it's called The Engineer because she's going to have to do a lot of engineering

[00:25:11] [SPEAKER_01]: stuff but then Graham Yoast got really choked up and said that it's the title is an ode to his

[00:25:16] [SPEAKER_01]: son who is an engineer. Oh yeah I did see that and that's all. Yeah. Oh yeah. And he said so from

[00:25:25] [SPEAKER_01]: the book marketing the tagline was if the lies don't kill you the truth will and Yoast says we

[00:25:30] [SPEAKER_01]: love the ambiguity and complexity of that. Yeah I mean I think it was one of the themes

[00:25:36] [SPEAKER_00]: in season one is kind of knowing the truth is not necessarily an unalloyed good thing.

[00:25:45] [SPEAKER_00]: There are sort of times particularly in sort of extreme situations like the silo is

[00:25:52] [SPEAKER_00]: portraying when actually you know the truth can be a very dangerous thing.

[00:26:01] [SPEAKER_00]: And it always puts me in mind of one of my favourite lines in movies ever and it comes from

[00:26:07] [SPEAKER_00]: men in black and it's where Tommy B. Jones and Will Smith are sitting on a park bench and Will

[00:26:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Smith goes well why couldn't we tell people about the existence of aliens people are smart

[00:26:18] [SPEAKER_00]: and Tommy goes no a person is smart. People are dumb panicky animals. Yes that's true.

[00:26:26] [SPEAKER_00]: And it does kind of I think silo is kind of if I was to sort of sum up silo in a sentence I think

[00:26:32] [SPEAKER_00]: or certainly if I was to sum up Sims and Bernard's point of view and the whole idea behind

[00:26:39] [SPEAKER_00]: the compact the whole idea behind the rules that the citizens of the silo live by

[00:26:46] [SPEAKER_00]: that would be a pretty good sentence to sum that up by. Yeah you know this is a very low

[00:26:51] [SPEAKER_00]: trust society and it kind of has to be because they're living in really unnatural conditions.

[00:26:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah and why and yeah how who designed the society we also got some good intel on the tattoos

[00:27:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Apple put out a video on YouTube I'll put that link in the show notes as well did you get

[00:27:14] [SPEAKER_00]: a chance to watch that I did yeah I hadn't noticed that Juliet's tattoo was supposed to be

[00:27:18] [SPEAKER_01]: like rope that had been picked up yeah no I think that's really cool because they pointed out that

[00:27:27] [SPEAKER_01]: of course they can't have any sort of like organic tattoos because that's they would have never seen

[00:27:33] [SPEAKER_01]: these things so it's what is around them what's in their life and so yeah she has that that main

[00:27:39] [SPEAKER_01]: one in her arm is like a coil of rope that's sort of threading and yeah they they pointed

[00:27:46] [SPEAKER_01]: out that it's really the down deepers who have tattoos because it's sort of there to express their

[00:27:52] [SPEAKER_00]: tribal identity what I want to know is do they put that on like once at the beginning of shooting

[00:27:58] [SPEAKER_00]: and it will stay on for like a couple of weeks couple of months how long you need or do they

[00:28:03] [SPEAKER_01]: have to do that every single day I mean to make it look fresh they would have to do it pretty

[00:28:08] [SPEAKER_01]: regularly if you get if you have a temporary tattoo which I've done before it only looks

[00:28:13] [SPEAKER_01]: fresh for like a couple days and of course Rebecca Ferguson did say one word that everybody's

[00:28:20] [SPEAKER_01]: laughing at book readers know what this about she talks about it being a wet season

[00:28:27] [SPEAKER_00]: oh and of course Julia is what the one thing Julia is really afraid of water

[00:28:34] [SPEAKER_01]: that's a that's a show invention but I think that adds a nice twist okay yeah and she also

[00:28:39] [SPEAKER_01]: she has friendship tattoos and she has a ring which I guess was George right yeah so it's all telling

[00:28:47] [SPEAKER_01]: her story and her tattoos and I guess she you know she this is pretty standard especially in like

[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_01]: sci-fi shows that actors go through hours of makeup for filming it's long days long days

[00:29:01] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah so one thing there did you I don't know if you watched the IGN video

[00:29:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I think you did but Yoast said that that door from season one the mysterious door he said

[00:29:13] [SPEAKER_00]: in season two we get to the door yes yes but he said we get to the door he didn't say we

[00:29:20] [SPEAKER_01]: open no that's true we didn't say we go through the door that we open the door

[00:29:24] [SPEAKER_00]: and even book readers don't I have a suspicion but this is the thing this is silo so you have

[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_00]: to pass what people are saying very very carefully yes Graham we get to the door good do we open it

[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_00]: do we go through it what's on the other side of it Graham what's on the other side yeah exactly so

[00:29:46] [SPEAKER_01]: those are the main reveals that we got um were you surprised by any of this I wasn't surprised

[00:29:53] [SPEAKER_00]: that we were gonna be flipping backwards and forwards between between two silos I thought that was

[00:30:00] [SPEAKER_00]: I thought the way season one ended that was pretty much that was pretty much inevitable that's

[00:30:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Juliet would be exploring at least one of the silo um so that didn't surprise me I'm not obviously

[00:30:13] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not surprised by the the the incipient rebellion in silo 18 because that was kind of

[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_00]: already right it was kind of already on the cards by the time season one the biggest surprise is solo

[00:30:25] [SPEAKER_00]: and the fact that in silo 17 there's only one you know there's only one person there um um because

[00:30:33] [SPEAKER_00]: I'd kind of I'd kind of been looking forward to exploring you know a whole different society

[00:30:39] [SPEAKER_00]: in a silo and maybe you know maybe that was organized along different along different lines

[00:30:45] [SPEAKER_00]: so I'm both intrigued and I have to say not disappointed because maybe we'll get there

[00:30:52] [SPEAKER_00]: later on in the show but I'd kind of like to see another another society in a silo yeah they said

[00:30:59] [SPEAKER_01]: we're getting to the end of the book in a different way so I'm maybe yeah they who knows what

[00:31:06] [SPEAKER_01]: they'll change because they certainly in season one built out within silo 18 more than you get

[00:31:12] [SPEAKER_01]: in the book and I guess that's the benefit of them splitting this book in two so I I yeah I can just

[00:31:22] [SPEAKER_01]: say I just wanted temper expectations that you don't you're not going to get all the answers

[00:31:25] [SPEAKER_01]: this season because this is not the last season and if anything um the way the books work is

[00:31:31] [SPEAKER_01]: it's the second book where you get the most answers and then uh the third book brings everything

[00:31:36] [SPEAKER_00]: together into our conclusion I mean I'd like I'd like to I'd like Tim robin I mean Tim Robbins

[00:31:42] [SPEAKER_00]: doesn't really do a lot of conventions but I'd like to see uh Tim Robbins there because I'd like

[00:31:47] [SPEAKER_00]: to know more about what's going to happen or what's going on with the Nard and I'd like to

[00:31:51] [SPEAKER_00]: have known I'd like to see a little bit more about what might be happening with Billings as well

[00:31:55] [SPEAKER_00]: yeah because I think those are my two favorite this is the thing like Julia is undoubtedly

[00:32:00] [SPEAKER_00]: the main character in silo but she's not my favorite character she's not the character

[00:32:05] [SPEAKER_01]: I find most interesting yeah I think well are you intrigued by what you know about solo so far

[00:32:12] [SPEAKER_01]: are you think I mean are you Steve's on fan in general um like I said if you wanted a middle

[00:32:19] [SPEAKER_01]: age man with the mentality of a 10 year old no he's great casting yeah he's great casting um

[00:32:25] [SPEAKER_00]: solo needs to be a lot of things and I mean I'm not I'm not not a Steve's on fan but I

[00:32:30] [SPEAKER_00]: is one of those acts is can you do can you do with you know do other roles do different roles

[00:32:35] [SPEAKER_01]: oh but I actually would say the opposite because I think that he's shown amazing versatility

[00:32:42] [SPEAKER_01]: okay because I've seen him do um silly I've seen him do serious I've seen him do unhinged um

[00:32:50] [SPEAKER_01]: and I've seen him do simple and this role requires all of that and I have to say

[00:32:55] [SPEAKER_01]: I will say solo is not stupid but he's you know immature product of his experiences yeah yeah

[00:33:06] [SPEAKER_00]: so what are your wildest predictions for season two oh oh oh oh my wildest predictions

[00:33:15] [SPEAKER_00]: I think either one of sims open our dice and I think I think one I think one of them kills the

[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_00]: other I have no idea in which direction that will go um but I think one of them dies and I think one

[00:33:29] [SPEAKER_01]: of them kills the other okay okay um you know who we did not hear anything about also who I want

[00:33:37] [SPEAKER_01]: to hear something about is our boy Lucas our star jaser yes well he's down in these down in the

[00:33:44] [SPEAKER_01]: down deep now is he or I don't know I mean the last thing we saw is that that was a threat

[00:33:49] [SPEAKER_01]: that Bernard was lobbing at him but we didn't see him go down there so yeah it's very much if you

[00:33:54] [SPEAKER_00]: don't see a body if you don't see your body they're not dead yeah if you don't see on screen it hasn't

[00:33:59] [SPEAKER_01]: happened yet yeah so I will see where Lucas is when I guess in episode two yeah and also like

[00:34:08] [SPEAKER_00]: maybe maybe not the most important um question but do we get a new do we get a new mayor in silo 17

[00:34:16] [SPEAKER_00]: um because Bernard is being up Bernard was acting mayor for the last six episodes of

[00:34:26] [SPEAKER_00]: right season one it seems like they're all to be in a lecture there was talk about an election

[00:34:31] [SPEAKER_01]: does that actually happen does what Bernard want there to be an election yeah all good questions

[00:34:39] [SPEAKER_00]: yeah any other thoughts you want to throw out oh um I wasn't expecting we'd see this at

[00:34:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Comic-Con because it would be too big of a reveal but I wonder if we get any more flashbacks I just

[00:34:52] [SPEAKER_00]: really want to see more of David the yellow and Rashidi Jones yeah I just really want to see that

[00:34:58] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean I'm guessing not um who knows never say never but I mean their story is pretty much

[00:35:05] [SPEAKER_01]: done yeah oh I mean they're dead yeah you can think of them anytime you see those two corpses on the

[00:35:13] [SPEAKER_00]: hill yeah this is the thing I just want a silo spin off I want like I want like a sit I want like a

[00:35:19] [SPEAKER_00]: sitcom starring David the yellow and Rashidi Jones I don't want anything I don't want anything bad

[00:35:24] [SPEAKER_00]: happy days I don't want anything bad or mysterious that happened to the way I just want a silo

[00:35:29] [SPEAKER_01]: version of happy days leading up and then it ends with like oh we won the lottery

[00:35:43] [SPEAKER_00]: any final thoughts or theories just I'm really looking forward to it now like you know there's a

[00:35:50] [SPEAKER_00]: obviously you know with all the hot loss summer stuff right going on I hadn't really given silo

[00:35:55] [SPEAKER_00]: much thought up until now and now it's like I'm gonna have to rewatch season one now yeah it's like

[00:36:01] [SPEAKER_00]: yeah I'm I'm really looking forward to it was a very pleasant surprise that it started from 2024

[00:36:06] [SPEAKER_00]: because I don't think anybody saw that coming no yeah it was definitely thinking like start of

[00:36:13] [SPEAKER_01]: 2025 so it threw off my planning I was like mild panic on my end but no no no

[00:36:19] [SPEAKER_00]: yeah yeah before the podcast started listeners we did kind of have to do a quick reshuffle

[00:36:24] [SPEAKER_01]: of our immediate plans okay so let's talk about our immediate plans so first of all a little news on

[00:36:37] [SPEAKER_01]: the book club side so Abby and I are aiming to release dust or at least the first half in the

[00:36:43] [SPEAKER_01]: end of August and then you can expect two episodes per month in the book club September through

[00:36:50] [SPEAKER_01]: November to wrap up the last book the three extra short stories and talk book Easter eggs

[00:36:56] [SPEAKER_01]: and book based speculation with a rewatch of the first season so all the things that I can't discuss

[00:37:02] [SPEAKER_01]: on this pod to protect the innocent lukin listeners ears and yeah I want to shout out a thank you

[00:37:10] [SPEAKER_01]: to our newest silos and welcome to the silo SOF YB SOF wrote in I am loving your pod it's been

[00:37:16] [SPEAKER_01]: a helpful distraction from the very real threats to democracy I'm in Canterbury UK but the world

[00:37:21] [SPEAKER_01]: is watching the US with our breath held right now yeah this is a show that does play into these

[00:37:26] [SPEAKER_01]: things so um I was so sad to hear about Sam I really love to their analysis of wool and their

[00:37:31] [SPEAKER_01]: soft spot for the stargazer thank you for continuing with the story at what must be in

[00:37:36] [SPEAKER_01]: a difficult time I can't wait to hear your take on the silo season 2 discussion attaching

[00:37:41] [SPEAKER_01]: the anniversary card I just made my husband with a nerd emoji and I sent you the picture of

[00:37:46] [SPEAKER_01]: the car yes she did yeah it's super impressive it's a drawing of the pes dispenser with the

[00:37:51] [SPEAKER_01]: ducky on top and it says yeah a relic eight years relic status pending

[00:37:58] [SPEAKER_01]: a very like very talented so far he's clearly an artist yeah it was it was it was really

[00:38:04] [SPEAKER_01]: very precise drawing yeah yeah uh I am listening to shift on audible I have small children and I

[00:38:10] [SPEAKER_01]: have to swap between hard copies and audio to get through a book these days and the narrator puts on

[00:38:15] [SPEAKER_01]: a whiny annoying voice for all the women and Lucas I'm so outraged keep up the amazing work

[00:38:21] [SPEAKER_01]: so I heard um that there are two versions on audible and one is more highly rated

[00:38:29] [SPEAKER_01]: than the other I don't know which one uh Soph is listening to but yeah I would urge people who

[00:38:36] [SPEAKER_01]: want to do the audio version to look look up the two versions and see which is available I don't

[00:38:42] [SPEAKER_01]: know I'm not on audible I don't really know what's there and Soph says to keep up the amazing work

[00:38:48] [SPEAKER_01]: thank you so much thank you so much that's very sweet of you we're glad to have you're

[00:38:53] [SPEAKER_01]: listening I do want to announce an upcoming change with the patreon versus uh I'm now I've set up a

[00:39:00] [SPEAKER_01]: supercast feed for the book club and supercast is basically it's like patreon but it's specifically

[00:39:07] [SPEAKER_01]: designed for podcasters and it just works a lot better for us with um in terms of like the

[00:39:14] [SPEAKER_01]: back end and the fees they take but also in terms of allowing me to do things like so I can

[00:39:20] [SPEAKER_01]: create a playlist that is just silo stuff and another one that's just dune stuff like in and

[00:39:27] [SPEAKER_01]: offer a season pass uh for people who are interested in only one and not the other things like that

[00:39:33] [SPEAKER_01]: um and also luke I can give you a free account there which I couldn't do on patreon oh thanks

[00:39:38] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah but you can't listen to the I can't listen to the bullshit stuff yeah but we

[00:39:47] [SPEAKER_01]: so basically I will have like separate season passes for these different things

[00:39:51] [SPEAKER_01]: and there will be a combined feed which will be a better price for the months where there are two

[00:39:57] [SPEAKER_01]: per month because I found just the way uh I set it up on patreon with a per episode thing

[00:40:01] [SPEAKER_01]: it's gotten too confusing for people and it's a mess for me in terms of scheduling and stuff so

[00:40:09] [SPEAKER_01]: hey editor alisha checking in from the future because things have already changed

[00:40:14] [SPEAKER_01]: since I recorded this episode last week basically this uh pay per episode plan um patreon is now

[00:40:23] [SPEAKER_01]: phasing it out because apple platforms about the season pass options that I mentioned so

[00:40:30] [SPEAKER_01]: watch out for all that okay thanks back to the regularly recorded recording yeah because

[00:40:35] [SPEAKER_01]: apple has changed their policy so basically apple is definitely the biggest platform for podcast so

[00:40:41] [SPEAKER_01]: yes patreon is conforming to their new rules and there will be no more paper episode

[00:40:46] [SPEAKER_01]: and I'm talking with patreon now about how we can phase into uh the monthly thing and and so

[00:40:53] [SPEAKER_01]: watch out for word on that there is a link to the new supercast version in the show notes

[00:41:00] [SPEAKER_01]: for anyone who's interested and there will be more information to follow on both platforms

[00:41:05] [SPEAKER_01]: about the season pass options that I mentioned so watch out for all that okay thanks back to

[00:41:11] [SPEAKER_01]: the regularly recorded recording so yeah links in the show notes and Luke you and I will be back

[00:41:19] [SPEAKER_01]: on this public main feed to talk more silo trailers etc once those come out as we said so

[00:41:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm guessing like late September yeah September October probably yeah yeah that'll be when

[00:41:32] [SPEAKER_01]: they're ramping up the marketing and telling us more um and in the meantime we have those plans

[00:41:38] [SPEAKER_01]: we were just discussing to start the dune series but we're going to pause once silo starts

[00:41:43] [SPEAKER_01]: for weekly silo coverage because we can't do both at the same time and also it happens that

[00:41:51] [SPEAKER_01]: dune sisterhood the new hbo show that set 10 000 years before the dune movies um that is

[00:41:57] [SPEAKER_01]: going to be starting at the same time uh as silo season two so seriously like hbo and apple need to

[00:42:06] [SPEAKER_01]: sit down i know have a meeting this is one sci-fi show at a time yeah them's the rules one but yeah

[00:42:13] [SPEAKER_01]: no please don't do that just one at a time but um but yeah these are two big ones the two big ones

[00:42:19] [SPEAKER_01]: that we are interested in so david's going to be taking the lead on the lorehounds for the

[00:42:23] [SPEAKER_01]: dune sisterhood and we're gonna yeah we'll do some tie-in stuff here like uh talk about i'm gonna talk

[00:42:28] [SPEAKER_01]: about that book so yeah stay tuned and we'll we'll talk through more of the details about what's

[00:42:35] [SPEAKER_01]: going to be handled on what feed when and yeah we'll keep you posted on how it will all go down

[00:42:40] [SPEAKER_01]: any thoughts on on the dune show sisterhood or really i really like the trailer i mean emily

[00:42:47] [SPEAKER_00]: whatson is just emily whatson is she's just off in a tier of her own you know she's like it looks

[00:42:54] [SPEAKER_01]: visually exquisite i am i don't know much about the story i mean i know sorry did i

[00:43:00] [SPEAKER_00]: notice mark strong in that trailer as well because oh yeah character they look very much like it was

[00:43:07] [SPEAKER_01]: mark strong let's see so we've got travis femel who people will know as ragnar lothbrook from

[00:43:15] [SPEAKER_00]: vikings um we've got i'll have to tell my mom about that yeah she's a huge ragnar loth not so much

[00:43:22] [SPEAKER_01]: of vikings but just a huge ragnar lothbrook fan well fair okay yes mark strong definitely that's who

[00:43:28] [SPEAKER_01]: that was uh we have olivia williams also um yeah it's a really good cast yeah like mark

[00:43:37] [SPEAKER_00]: mark strong emily whatson they're both actors that basically it comes with a stamp of quality

[00:43:44] [SPEAKER_00]: you know it's gonna be you know it's gonna be good if they're in it yeah yeah i mean i know nothing

[00:43:49] [SPEAKER_01]: about the writing um i know what story it's based on it is so it's based on the founding of the

[00:43:55] [SPEAKER_01]: benny jezz or its sisterhood so lady jessica rebecca furkerson her it's she's not in it of

[00:44:00] [SPEAKER_01]: course because this is set 10 000 years before the movies um but her sisterhood this is about

[00:44:06] [SPEAKER_01]: how it got started and how they started with the whole um that you know the the propaganda that they

[00:44:13] [SPEAKER_01]: send out into the galaxy to pave the way for the eventual lisa nal gai which is the miscinaria

[00:44:20] [SPEAKER_00]: protetiva which is just it's just a nice they're just two nice words to say yeah no it is it's

[00:44:26] [SPEAKER_01]: beautiful um yeah we're gonna talk you through all of that soon i promise uh first priority is to

[00:44:31] [SPEAKER_01]: i'm gonna finish up the the dust book because he's putting together these book

[00:44:35] [SPEAKER_01]: podcasts a lot so i'm gonna do the dust one and then we're gonna do uh dune in three parts

[00:44:40] [SPEAKER_01]: well actually four because after we do the three parts of the book dune we're gonna do the rankings

[00:44:46] [SPEAKER_01]: of that everyone sent in of the best scenes from the book or the most memorable scenes

[00:44:51] [SPEAKER_01]: from the book yeah any any more thoughts no i think that's it for me all right well we'll be back

[00:44:59] [SPEAKER_01]: with all of this stuff so yeah subscribe wherever you're listening and you'll get notified when the

[00:45:05] [SPEAKER_01]: new episodes come out for both silo and dune and until then watch out for the loner with a knife