2025 Emmy noms – pt. 2 (of 2): Creative Arts Emmys & final predictions
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2025 Emmy noms – pt. 2 (of 2): Creative Arts Emmys & final predictions

Elysia, David, and John are back for part 2 of 2 of their Emmy nominations series – this time looking at the nominees for the biggest categories, including what statues they already picked up at the Creative Arts Emmys, and checking in on how other network favorites fared, who has too many nominations or too few, and who is predicted to win this weekend.


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00:18 --> 00:26 [SPEAKER_07]: Hello, Alicia from the Laura Hound's here again with David and John for Part 2 of our discussion of the 2025 MA nominees.
00:26 --> 00:29 [SPEAKER_07]: Check out Part 1 with our overall hot takes.
00:29 --> 00:34 [SPEAKER_07]: Some background about how MA nominations work and how the various streamers fared in the count.
00:34 --> 00:37 [SPEAKER_07]: You'll find that episode from July linked in the show notes.
00:38 --> 00:56 [SPEAKER_03]: Today, we are back for part two, where we're gonna look at the creative arts Emmys, the winners of the creative arts Emmys, the nominees for the big prizes and other favorites in dramas, comedies, limited series on stroke anthologies and other selected categories.
00:56 --> 01:03 [SPEAKER_03]: Because we are the Laura Hounds, your guides to super sizing any discussion, that is very true.
01:04 --> 01:25 [SPEAKER_06]: justice for the rehearsal justice for interview with the vampire justice for the last of a season two who wrote this i didn't i wouldn't have written that last one uh... who's it whose nominations should have gone to interview the vampire okay i didn't read far enough okay i knew you were through a shade at the last of us
01:28 --> 01:34 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I, there's no show I want to, like I literally, you know, we, we changed the format a little bit for our top 10 last year.
01:35 --> 01:46 [SPEAKER_06]: I literally considered adding biggest disappointment as a category of shows this year for the top 10 because I just was so disappointed by that season.
01:47 --> 01:48 [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, I'm a better member.
01:48 --> 01:50 [SPEAKER_07]: Well, it hasn't fair that we'll so far.
01:50 --> 01:51 [SPEAKER_07]: Well, we'll talk about it.
01:51 --> 01:51 [SPEAKER_07]: We'll talk about it.
01:51 --> 01:54 [SPEAKER_07]: There are 118 categories in total.
01:54 --> 01:57 [SPEAKER_07]: We talked a bit more about that in part one of the coverage.
01:57 --> 01:59 [SPEAKER_07]: So we're obviously not going through all that.
01:59 --> 02:00 [SPEAKER_07]: This is just going to be the highlights.
02:01 --> 02:10 [SPEAKER_07]: And we will try, when we talk about the shows themselves, we'll try to avoid spoilers to a reasonable degree, or at least warn before we launch in any spoilers.
02:11 --> 02:12 [SPEAKER_07]: So a great, a great.
02:12 --> 02:13 [SPEAKER_07]: A great.
02:14 --> 02:14 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't agree.
02:14 --> 02:17 [SPEAKER_03]: John, you're just contrarian by nature.
02:18 --> 02:21 [SPEAKER_03]: You would even disagree with my accusation.
02:22 --> 02:23 [SPEAKER_03]: Secuse being disagreeable.
02:25 --> 02:25 [SPEAKER_03]: That's true.
02:26 --> 02:27 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm very ribble.
02:31 --> 02:36 [SPEAKER_07]: So we are having our now past the final nominations past the campaigning.
02:36 --> 02:40 [SPEAKER_07]: The final voting was August 18th to 27th.
02:40 --> 02:49 [SPEAKER_07]: And then we've already gotten all of the quote unquote below the lines awards named over the last two days before we're recording September 6th and 7th.
02:56 --> 03:04 [SPEAKER_07]: The Emmys themselves, the prime time Emmys are going to air on Sunday, September 14th at 5 p.m.
03:04 --> 03:05 [SPEAKER_07]: Pacific 8 p.m.
03:05 --> 03:07 [SPEAKER_07]: Eastern time or 2 a.m.
03:07 --> 03:09 [SPEAKER_07]: here in Central European time.
03:10 --> 03:13 [SPEAKER_07]: And it's going to be on CBS or Paramount Plus in the U.S.
03:13 --> 03:16 [SPEAKER_07]: and if you're outside the U.S.
03:17 --> 03:22 [SPEAKER_07]: then I suggest to scoogling it, it's airing various streamers and places around the globe.
03:22 --> 03:35 [SPEAKER_07]: And the host again is Nate Bargazay and I've watched now his special, the one he was, uh, I guess he didn't win for it, but he was nominated for your friend Nate Bargazay on Netflix and I watched it.
03:35 --> 03:36 [SPEAKER_07]: And yeah, I like him.
03:36 --> 03:37 [SPEAKER_07]: He's funny.
03:37 --> 03:37 [SPEAKER_07]: He's like a bull.
03:37 --> 03:40 [SPEAKER_07]: He's, you know, self-deprecating, which is good for these shows.
03:41 --> 03:43 [SPEAKER_07]: You said Maya likes him a lot, John.
03:43 --> 03:44 [SPEAKER_06]: She likes him a lot.
03:44 --> 03:49 [SPEAKER_06]: I think I've seen like a little bit of TikTok hopes, but not like full special.
03:49 --> 03:52 [SPEAKER_06]: So I don't feel like I can accurately judge him, but what I've seen has been funny.
03:53 --> 03:53 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
03:54 --> 03:54 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, no.
03:55 --> 03:58 [SPEAKER_07]: He's, yeah, it seems affable.
03:58 --> 04:06 [SPEAKER_07]: And, you know, I don't want to say an Oculus, but you know, he's not going to cause a major controversy, but he's going to really little bit of people.
04:07 --> 04:23 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it's the style of comedian where it's like kind of playfully self-deprecating where like he's like trying to present himself as kind of like a puts and just, you know, I'm just kicking rocks while I'm walking around, I'm just, you know, I'm, I'm not sure a lot here.
04:24 --> 04:26 [SPEAKER_06]: But then he says something shocking and then you're like, oh, that's funny.
04:26 --> 04:27 [SPEAKER_06]: You know what I mean?
04:27 --> 04:30 [SPEAKER_06]: Like the demeanor really like lends itself to the punchline.
04:30 --> 04:31 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
04:31 --> 04:34 [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, I think that makes for good hosts.
04:34 --> 04:36 [SPEAKER_07]: I think that Conan O'Brien is similar.
04:36 --> 04:38 [SPEAKER_07]: And I think that's one reason why he was such a great Oscar host.
04:39 --> 04:40 [SPEAKER_07]: And we'll be again this year.
04:40 --> 04:45 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, fair enough, although the best host of anything of all time is David Tennant, hosting the BAFTAs.
04:46 --> 04:46 [SPEAKER_07]: It's fair.
04:46 --> 04:47 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, yeah, that's true.
04:47 --> 04:48 [SPEAKER_07]: That's true.
04:50 --> 04:52 [SPEAKER_07]: Okay, but today we're here to talk about the Emmys.
04:52 --> 05:00 [SPEAKER_07]: We're going to talk about the biggest players in the major categories and how the shows that we've covered are talked about on the network have fared in the nominations.
05:02 --> 05:09 [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, and just FYI, you'll notice there's a variable number of nominations per category.
05:09 --> 05:17 [SPEAKER_07]: It depends on the number of submissions that category gets, but best drama and best comedy always have eight each, which is the maximum.
05:19 --> 05:23 [SPEAKER_07]: So let's start with the best drama nominees.
05:23 --> 05:25 [SPEAKER_07]: This is kind of the unofficial big award of the night.
05:26 --> 05:32 [SPEAKER_07]: And I'm just going to list the eight shows nominated and how many nominations over all they got.
05:32 --> 05:35 [SPEAKER_07]: And then we'll talk a little bit about each a bit more.
05:35 --> 05:39 [SPEAKER_06]: Can I ask though, why is it not called dromones?
05:40 --> 05:41 [SPEAKER_07]: Uh-huh.
05:42 --> 05:44 [SPEAKER_07]: Because they should have you naming things.
05:46 --> 05:48 [SPEAKER_06]: I would like to drominate drominate.
05:50 --> 05:53 [SPEAKER_07]: So HBO's winning this category with three nominees.
05:54 --> 05:57 [SPEAKER_07]: Apple has two Hulu Disney Post and Netflix each have one.
05:57 --> 05:59 [SPEAKER_07]: And the best drominies are.
06:00 --> 06:04 [SPEAKER_07]: Severance season two with 27 nominations overall.
06:05 --> 06:08 [SPEAKER_07]: The white lotus season three with 23 nominations overall.
06:08 --> 06:27 [SPEAKER_07]: The last of us season two with 16 nominations and or with 14 nominations season two of course the pit season one with 13 nominations slow horses season four with five nominations paradise season one with four nominations and the diplomat with two nominations.
06:27 --> 06:28 [SPEAKER_07]: I'm not even sure it's season that
06:30 --> 06:36 [SPEAKER_03]: I think season two, it must be season two, because season three is not yet out, if I am correct.
06:37 --> 06:38 [SPEAKER_07]: Do you watch a diplomat?
06:38 --> 06:39 [SPEAKER_03]: We have.
06:41 --> 06:42 [SPEAKER_03]: That's what I think about it.
06:43 --> 06:46 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's not much of a vote of confidence there over there.
06:46 --> 06:57 [SPEAKER_03]: We at first really enjoyed it just because of our own person, my wife and I, personal life histories and some of our social circles,
06:58 --> 07:01 [SPEAKER_03]: So we could kind of identify with some of it.
07:02 --> 07:05 [SPEAKER_03]: And with that all, this is kind of fun.
07:05 --> 07:12 [SPEAKER_03]: And it's a bit, you know, soap opera, e, just enough, but it's also just couched enough in sort of,
07:14 --> 07:16 [SPEAKER_03]: felt real, it felt real world.
07:16 --> 07:20 [SPEAKER_03]: And then season two just went like, we were just like, what the hell is going on?
07:20 --> 07:24 [SPEAKER_03]: And they leaned harder into the soap opera and setting up
07:29 --> 07:37 [SPEAKER_03]: drama and conflict and the things the way things played out and you're just like whoa that's just way off base that's not.
07:38 --> 07:41 [SPEAKER_03]: It lost its sense of realism and that was really disappointing.
07:41 --> 07:46 [SPEAKER_03]: However at the end of season two Alice and Janey comes in and she's awesome.
07:47 --> 08:02 [SPEAKER_03]: She's really, really great, and so it's all the acting, the sets, it's a beautiful show, it's really a beautiful show, and I love all of the cast, I love everybody as their cast, and that just the writers just get a little too soapy.
08:02 --> 08:11 [SPEAKER_03]: And then they invert and up and things that you're just like, no, no, I'm sorry, you're you're you're setting this in our primary world,
08:12 --> 08:17 [SPEAKER_03]: then there's just no way that certain things in certain people would be operating this way.
08:17 --> 08:22 [SPEAKER_03]: So it breaks, the concessions are too far gone.
08:22 --> 08:25 [SPEAKER_06]: It's too early in the morning to save various similar toude.
08:25 --> 08:29 [SPEAKER_06]: I say, Ovo Vi Vipris.
08:30 --> 08:31 [SPEAKER_06]: Anyway, that's a separate resource.
08:31 --> 08:33 [SPEAKER_07]: So it's an alien reference.
08:34 --> 08:35 [SPEAKER_06]: It's your podcast.
08:35 --> 08:36 [SPEAKER_03]: It's not mine, it's the least is.
08:37 --> 08:38 [SPEAKER_06]: Well, yeah.
08:38 --> 08:41 [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, a general, it's an original, it's a hard podcast, that's true.
08:42 --> 08:45 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, so it's the diplomats on Netflix.
08:45 --> 08:49 [SPEAKER_07]: I got two nominations for Drama, Best Drama, and Lead Actress for Carrie Russell.
08:50 --> 08:51 [SPEAKER_07]: It's not been a show.
08:51 --> 08:52 [SPEAKER_07]: I don't know.
08:52 --> 08:56 [SPEAKER_07]: It's there's so many shows and it's not my genre, so I just never had an urge to watch it.
08:57 --> 08:57 [SPEAKER_07]: People seem to like it.
08:58 --> 09:02 [SPEAKER_07]: Carrie Russell will always have goodwill for me from Felicity.
09:03 --> 09:04 [SPEAKER_07]: So, yeah.
09:04 --> 09:06 [SPEAKER_07]: I guess you haven't watched it either, John?
09:12 --> 09:16 [SPEAKER_06]: notably, we'll like miss out on smaller series from previous years.
09:16 --> 09:17 [SPEAKER_06]: The last year was pretty good.
09:17 --> 09:27 [SPEAKER_06]: I got to catch up on things this year because I may have read too much and watched too much one piece to catch up on some of the cool cars, but it happens, it happens.
09:31 --> 09:42 [SPEAKER_07]: So the next lowest number of nominations was paradise season one on Hulu for nominations for best drama, lead actor for Sterling Cape Brown, supporting actor for James Marston and supporting actress for Julia Nicholson.
09:42 --> 09:46 [SPEAKER_07]: I did watch this one and I finished it.
09:46 --> 09:47 [SPEAKER_07]: I finished it.
09:47 --> 09:47 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
09:47 --> 09:53 [SPEAKER_07]: And I agree with David that there was a stumble on what was it ever said for I think.
09:53 --> 09:56 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it was before seven, which is what everybody talks about.
09:56 --> 09:57 [SPEAKER_03]: And it was yeah.
09:58 --> 10:05 [SPEAKER_07]: But for me, it was just that one episode where I was like, sign and rolling my eyes, and then they just got back on it.
10:05 --> 10:10 [SPEAKER_07]: And I was really into it for the nuanced character depictions.
10:10 --> 10:18 [SPEAKER_07]: I do like shows that we'll have a mystery with flashbacks to prior life.
10:18 --> 10:22 [SPEAKER_07]: And obviously there's a science fiction elements, minor spoiler.
10:23 --> 10:30 [SPEAKER_07]: for the first episode, but they're living underground, and you know, that's definitely, I love a story that takes place underground for some reason.
10:31 --> 10:31 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
10:31 --> 10:32 [SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.
10:32 --> 10:34 [SPEAKER_03]: A little thinking about you there.
10:35 --> 10:38 [SPEAKER_07]: Um, yeah, I mean, not just silo, but it's one of the reasons I like silo.
10:38 --> 10:39 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
10:41 --> 10:53 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, so I like paradise, I don't know, it's not going to win drama, it's just up again, such competition, David, you were not a huge fan, I think, John, you checked it out.
10:53 --> 10:59 [SPEAKER_03]: I, I guess, so I dropped out whatever it was like four or five.
11:00 --> 11:04 [SPEAKER_03]: When we got the first big twist, I didn't make it to seven.
11:04 --> 11:09 [SPEAKER_03]: I love me some Sterling K-Brown, and I thought he was doing a really credible job.
11:10 --> 11:12 [SPEAKER_03]: And it looked good, and it seemed to all good.
11:12 --> 11:15 [SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, I just kinda, my eyes rolled so hard.
11:16 --> 11:17 [SPEAKER_03]: I hurt my brain.
11:17 --> 11:18 [SPEAKER_03]: I hurt my optic nerve.
11:19 --> 11:22 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I did not watch this slow horses or the pit.
11:22 --> 11:24 [SPEAKER_06]: So I'm going to be very unhelpful for this whole category.
11:25 --> 11:26 [SPEAKER_07]: That's fine.
11:27 --> 11:37 [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, no, I thought I think that episode seven is a fantastic episode of disaster TV, you know, Anthony was talking in unpopularly Howard about liking disaster films.
11:37 --> 11:39 [SPEAKER_07]: I was like, you got to watch episode seven of this one.
11:41 --> 11:43 [SPEAKER_07]: So yeah, I recommend paradise.
11:44 --> 11:45 [SPEAKER_07]: I don't know that it's going to win anything.
11:47 --> 11:48 [SPEAKER_07]: I love Sterling Kay Brown.
11:48 --> 11:55 [SPEAKER_07]: Actually, I love, well, yeah, Sterling Kay Brown and James Marston are both absolutely great, and I hope they're nominated again next year.
11:55 --> 11:57 [SPEAKER_07]: I'm looking forward to season two.
11:58 --> 12:00 [SPEAKER_07]: Have any of us watch slow horses?
12:00 --> 12:05 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, I am a slow horses watcher in fan, and I can.
12:05 --> 12:08 [SPEAKER_03]: I saw it listed here on your list, and I was like, the fuck?
12:09 --> 12:12 [SPEAKER_03]: There's no way I would put this in for a best Emmy nom.
12:13 --> 12:13 [SPEAKER_03]: I love it.
12:13 --> 12:14 [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's great.
12:15 --> 12:16 [SPEAKER_03]: It's fun.
12:18 --> 12:23 [SPEAKER_03]: Gary Oldman is awesome in this, but I best trauma.
12:24 --> 12:27 [SPEAKER_03]: I just have a hard time because it's it's bubble.
12:27 --> 12:29 [SPEAKER_03]: It's bubblegum spy stuff.
12:29 --> 12:32 [SPEAKER_03]: It's just preposterous in its setup.
12:32 --> 12:39 [SPEAKER_03]: that there is a, you know, the premise of this, you know, the slow horses themselves and the kinds of adventures and things that are going on.
12:40 --> 12:41 [SPEAKER_03]: It's ridiculous.
12:42 --> 12:45 [SPEAKER_03]: It's like the diplomat in some ways, except it's not soapy.
12:46 --> 12:54 [SPEAKER_03]: And when I first watched it the first season, I was like, okay, cool, like real gritty spy drama.
12:55 --> 12:55 [SPEAKER_03]: Great.
12:55 --> 12:57 [SPEAKER_03]: And then I realized, no, this is not spy drama.
12:57 --> 13:05 [SPEAKER_03]: And then once I got over myself, then I was like, oh, this is, this is pulp spy drama stuff that looks really pretty.
13:05 --> 13:07 [SPEAKER_03]: And once I got that, then I really enjoyed it.
13:08 --> 13:09 [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, it's not it.
13:10 --> 13:13 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't take it as a serious drama in any way, she performed.
13:13 --> 13:14 [SPEAKER_07]: Hmm.
13:14 --> 13:19 [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, I know there's a lot of fans in our community who are like trying to come eat it, watch it.
13:20 --> 13:24 [SPEAKER_07]: And I'm like, well, okay, what's the selling point?
13:24 --> 13:27 [SPEAKER_07]: And the only answer I got was Gary Oldman Farts a lot.
13:27 --> 13:31 [SPEAKER_03]: I was like, is this just not going to help me?
13:31 --> 13:37 [SPEAKER_06]: You were seeing Gary Oldman, and he was interviewed by Stephen Colbert and Stephen Colbert said,
13:38 --> 13:51 [SPEAKER_06]: show me how to pretend you're dying by a stab to the throat and see the Colbert pretend stabs him and he's like, all right, then you're going to want to choke a little more off.
13:51 --> 13:54 [SPEAKER_06]: I think you're going to have no air in your chest.
13:56 --> 13:57 [SPEAKER_06]: Very good, very funny.
13:57 --> 14:01 [SPEAKER_06]: It was like very impressive and very funny at the same time.
14:01 --> 14:03 [SPEAKER_06]: So go check it out.
14:04 --> 14:09 [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, I'm, I, it sounds like, you know, it has a lot of, there's a lot of deep love for this.
14:09 --> 14:11 [SPEAKER_07]: I know, it's based on a bunch of books.
14:11 --> 14:11 [SPEAKER_03]: Books.
14:12 --> 14:12 [SPEAKER_03]: Correct.
14:12 --> 14:12 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
14:13 --> 14:15 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know the books are the authors, but yeah, they're quite.
14:15 --> 14:23 [SPEAKER_07]: I know, for instance, Abby's read them all, and they are really just like, Apple Plus, Apple TV Plus, it's just like Chuching on this.
14:23 --> 14:29 [SPEAKER_07]: They, there's a fifth season already coming in September, and they've renewed through season seven.
14:30 --> 14:37 [SPEAKER_03]: So this is part of the wave of same shows like the pit where they have a star who's into it.
14:38 --> 14:55 [SPEAKER_03]: They have a good writing and production team and they're just getting up on their, getting up on their skis or a hydrophilic getting up on its planes and just going for it and not thinking about, oh, you know, like Gary Oldman doesn't have a lot of other commitments, so they can, it's not like Pedro Pascal or somebody.
14:55 --> 14:56 [SPEAKER_07]: Right.
14:56 --> 14:58 [SPEAKER_03]: They can just keep cranking these out.
14:59 --> 15:00 [SPEAKER_03]: and they have the source material.
15:01 --> 15:05 [SPEAKER_03]: So they can just write treatments and go through a process.
15:05 --> 15:17 [SPEAKER_03]: So it's the best of that old school, sausage factory TV, where they're cranking out episode after ever, but it's more prestige.
15:17 --> 15:26 [SPEAKER_03]: It's like going to the supermarket that has the fancy wood grain font on the sign outside, rather than the, you know, the ginormous discounts.
15:26 --> 15:27 [SPEAKER_07]: Right.
15:27 --> 15:28 [SPEAKER_07]: It's Whole Foods, not at me.
15:29 --> 15:29 [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
15:29 --> 15:31 [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, they're still shipping a lot of food.
15:31 --> 15:34 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, Whole Foods has this impromptuure of like, oh, we're fancy.
15:35 --> 15:39 [SPEAKER_03]: But they're sling in as hard and as fast as safe way is or somebody, right?
15:40 --> 15:41 [SPEAKER_07]: Absolutely, absolutely.
15:41 --> 15:45 [SPEAKER_07]: With just with a price premium, premium price and a fancy font.
15:47 --> 15:50 [SPEAKER_07]: Well speaking of the pit, I know that's a special favorite of yours.
15:51 --> 15:53 [SPEAKER_07]: It's on HBO for anyone doesn't know.
15:53 --> 15:55 [SPEAKER_07]: It got 13 nominations.
15:56 --> 16:04 [SPEAKER_07]: It's already one, two, and lost for the two that at one are casting and guest-offs actor for Sean Hatocy.
16:05 --> 16:09 [SPEAKER_07]: And then yeah, it's still up for a bunch of the big awards, including lead actor Noah Wiley.
16:12 --> 16:14 [SPEAKER_07]: I know this is a special favorite of yours.
16:17 --> 16:26 [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, it probably won't be on my top 10 list because because it's just pat no only because it's so packed this year just because I the gut is going to be hard.
16:26 --> 16:28 [SPEAKER_03]: The top five is going to be insane.
16:30 --> 16:32 [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, will it is it going to be highly rated by me.
16:33 --> 16:36 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, will it make you know, it's just a it's a nuts year.
16:37 --> 16:39 [SPEAKER_03]: I was skeptical going into the pit.
16:40 --> 16:47 [SPEAKER_03]: Because I thought it was just going to be another kind of a reboot of an ER type thing, especially with Noah Wiley, you know, being in that line.
16:47 --> 17:07 [SPEAKER_03]: And after falling skies, my opinion of Noah, we fell quite hard, actually, and I was pleasantly surprised, it's kind of a polemic in a way, it's an examination of our modern, underneath
17:08 --> 17:31 [SPEAKER_03]: ER style drama is this examination of our health care industry so some of the things are a little bit goofy the end of the the season your it's gripping and then you're like oh okay well that's just another day in the life of america and you're like wow that's that's a little crazy if that's the truth of it but um it's well acted it's so well shot it's so well
17:32 --> 17:36 [SPEAKER_03]: Visually, the visual conception for it is really great.
17:37 --> 17:41 [SPEAKER_03]: The characters, the casting are all really interesting.
17:41 --> 17:47 [SPEAKER_03]: So, and again, like Slow Horses, they're like, okay, we have a list cast member.
17:47 --> 17:52 [SPEAKER_03]: who's into it, we've got the team, we've got the sets, so let's just keep cranking these things out.
17:52 --> 17:55 [SPEAKER_03]: And what do we get in 12, 13 episodes, I think?
17:55 --> 18:03 [SPEAKER_03]: It was a 12 episode, because it was like, oh, what was that Kevin's, what was it, who was it not Kevin's Bacy, the Kevin,
18:04 --> 18:05 [SPEAKER_03]: flat liners.
18:06 --> 18:10 [SPEAKER_03]: The spy one that we're each hour with each episode was an hour 24.
18:11 --> 18:13 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah 24 that's what it is.
18:13 --> 18:22 [SPEAKER_03]: So each hour of the show is one hour and a shift of this E. So it has that pacing and each episode picks up off the other ones.
18:22 --> 18:25 [SPEAKER_03]: They can just shoot this thing continuously as a giant block.
18:26 --> 18:28 [SPEAKER_03]: and then they, you know, they chop it up in the edit.
18:29 --> 18:30 [SPEAKER_03]: And it's really well done.
18:31 --> 18:36 [SPEAKER_03]: It's smart writing, it's smart acting, and it's credible.
18:36 --> 18:38 [SPEAKER_03]: It feels really credible.
18:38 --> 18:44 [SPEAKER_03]: They're talking all this medical stuff and you're like, I don't know what it means, but that sure, they are sure selling me on medical drama.
18:47 --> 19:02 [SPEAKER_07]: It's considered, I mean, I think no whileies considered one of the lead predictions to win best actor and I think it's one of the favorites to win the drama category overall.
19:03 --> 19:10 [SPEAKER_03]: It'd be, I'd be surprised if it does win, but if it does win, then I would not be surprised, I guess if I could say it that way.
19:10 --> 19:11 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, no, that's fair.
19:12 --> 19:18 [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, I think so the other for we've watched all four of them, and or is it...
19:18 --> 19:29 [SPEAKER_07]: It has 14 nominations, so it's one more than the pits on Disney+, obviously, but I think we would all agree, even though it has 14 nominations, it's under-nominated.
19:30 --> 19:44 [SPEAKER_07]: It has so far one four, the Creative Arts MAs, it won VFX for a season or movie, it won period or fantasy sci-fi, production design and costumes, and it won editing for drama.
19:45 --> 19:52 [SPEAKER_07]: but now it's only up for three more words at the big event, drama writing and directing.
19:52 --> 19:56 [SPEAKER_07]: And yeah, it had a guest actor, nomination for Forest Whitaker, a voice-over nomination for Alan Tudick as K2SO, and lost both of those.
19:56 --> 19:57 [SPEAKER_07]: And what the hell?
19:57 --> 19:57 [SPEAKER_07]: John, what the hell?
19:57 --> 20:09 [SPEAKER_07]: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
20:09 --> 20:25 [SPEAKER_06]: don't don't ask me about the logic of this decision, just I think part of it is just like people see an expensive show with Pedro Pascal on HBO and are like that probably deserves nominations.
20:25 --> 20:26 [SPEAKER_06]: You know what I mean?
20:26 --> 20:28 [SPEAKER_06]: Like there is like an industry level like
20:29 --> 20:31 [SPEAKER_06]: Well, that's a prestige show.
20:31 --> 20:34 [SPEAKER_06]: So, obviously, we're going to... Well, this is Star Wars.
20:34 --> 20:35 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
20:35 --> 20:36 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, exactly.
20:36 --> 20:39 [SPEAKER_06]: And so, it is what it is.
20:41 --> 20:47 [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, yeah, it's, I don't think that it was fair, but I don't think it's, I don't know.
20:47 --> 20:50 [SPEAKER_07]: I don't know that I guess it could win writing.
20:50 --> 20:52 [SPEAKER_07]: I could see it winning writing or directing.
20:52 --> 20:52 [SPEAKER_07]: I don't know.
20:52 --> 20:55 [SPEAKER_06]: I also think it's not as bad if,
20:56 --> 21:04 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, first of all, I think the story and the adaptation is not as bad if you haven't put the games, but also I think that a lot of the last of us you mean.
21:04 --> 21:05 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, sorry.
21:05 --> 21:06 [SPEAKER_06]: Sorry.
21:06 --> 21:15 [SPEAKER_06]: I was I was going more with with the last of us, but I I overall, I'm like, you know, there are there are for all of these shows on HBO.
21:16 --> 21:20 [SPEAKER_06]: There are a ton of like great production aspects, right?
21:20 --> 21:22 [SPEAKER_06]: Like, there are just like the
21:24 --> 21:31 [SPEAKER_06]: Kitchen is really cooking on these shows, even if even if the head chef was not maybe doing their job as much.
21:33 --> 21:36 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I mean, I think the last of us, it got 16 nominations.
21:36 --> 21:37 [SPEAKER_07]: It's on HBO.
21:40 --> 21:43 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, in season one, it won eight Emmys.
21:43 --> 21:44 [SPEAKER_07]: I don't think so far.
21:45 --> 21:49 [SPEAKER_07]: It only won one Emmys for sound editing for what I were show.
21:49 --> 21:57 [SPEAKER_07]: And now the three nominations, it's still up for our drama, lead actor for page of Pascal, lead actress for Bella Ramsey.
21:58 --> 22:02 [SPEAKER_07]: Maybe page of Pascal would get it, but honestly, I would be surprised.
22:02 --> 22:05 [SPEAKER_07]: I don't, I think it's gonna walk away with only that sound editing.
22:06 --> 22:31 [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, I hope so I don't know because again, like I think that the last of us had like a lot of great production like that zombie chase scene and in the first this is the first episode or something so don't Don't add me for spoilers, but like that that's a big zombie chase scene like I love that that visually looked amazing like and like but it already lost those to but it lost those to like and are severance so fine fair.
22:36 --> 22:50 [SPEAKER_06]: Disney has this weird thing where like on family stuff they'll like get the like like they will get at a word more easily than other companies on like family media but if it's not family media there's like a bias against it.
22:50 --> 22:52 [SPEAKER_06]: You don't know what I mean?
22:53 --> 23:02 [SPEAKER_07]: I mean I think in the in this case I think it was worthy of all the technical nominations but the winners of those categories were
23:04 --> 23:05 [SPEAKER_06]: Hmm.
23:05 --> 23:05 [SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
23:06 --> 23:06 [SPEAKER_06]: That's fair.
23:06 --> 23:08 [SPEAKER_06]: There's a lot of good production.
23:08 --> 23:11 [SPEAKER_03]: Didn't I see a news are headline about?
23:11 --> 23:13 [SPEAKER_03]: Is it not me?
23:13 --> 23:13 [SPEAKER_03]: Who is it?
23:14 --> 23:17 [SPEAKER_03]: Somebody is stepping away from the last of us.
23:17 --> 23:18 [SPEAKER_03]: Like one of us.
23:18 --> 23:18 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yes.
23:19 --> 23:19 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
23:19 --> 23:19 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
23:21 --> 23:31 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, you know, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
23:47 --> 23:51 [SPEAKER_06]: from interviews and whatnot, it sounded like he had less input this season than he didn't season one.
23:52 --> 23:56 [SPEAKER_06]: And that could just be like he got the show off the ground, didn't that that was more of what he wanted to do.
23:56 --> 24:00 [SPEAKER_06]: And now, you know, he was doing two jobs, right?
24:00 --> 24:05 [SPEAKER_06]: He was running a game studio, which is a huge, like that's a full-time job all the time.
24:06 --> 24:10 [SPEAKER_06]: And also working on the show, I mean, that is a busy guy.
24:13 --> 24:30 [SPEAKER_07]: Um, and so the second most nominated in this category, white lotus season three HBO Max 23 nomination so far at one might main title music and it has a ton of acting nominations so it's still up for a bunch of rewards it plus writing and directing.
24:32 --> 24:40 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I mean, I could see, especially like Walter Goggins walking away with supporting actor, Parker Posey for supporting actress.
24:40 --> 24:41 [SPEAKER_07]: It would be so much fun.
24:41 --> 24:43 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I don't know if we meet with Wood, probably.
24:43 --> 24:44 [SPEAKER_06]: Popper No.
24:44 --> 24:49 [SPEAKER_07]: I want to see her accepted speech.
24:50 --> 24:54 [SPEAKER_07]: It is first time nominations for Jason Isaacs and Scott Glenn.
24:54 --> 24:55 [SPEAKER_07]: So that's interesting.
24:55 --> 25:00 [SPEAKER_07]: And also, there was a lot of talk about the fact that Patrick Schwarzenegger was not one of the nominees.
25:02 --> 25:04 [SPEAKER_07]: even though he was a highlight of the season.
25:04 --> 25:08 [SPEAKER_07]: I suppose in terms of the it was good.
25:08 --> 25:11 [SPEAKER_06]: He was like, yeah, it was fine.
25:11 --> 25:12 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, it's a mandate girl.
25:12 --> 25:13 [SPEAKER_07]: He had a demanding girl.
25:13 --> 25:14 [SPEAKER_06]: He did jump.
25:14 --> 25:16 [SPEAKER_06]: He just had to lay there and take it.
25:19 --> 25:23 [SPEAKER_06]: That's not a spoiler.
25:23 --> 25:24 [SPEAKER_06]: You don't know what that means.
25:28 --> 25:29 [SPEAKER_03]: Glad I was a drinking cup of it.
25:29 --> 25:31 [SPEAKER_03]: Let's take a sip of coffee in that moment.
25:33 --> 25:35 [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, yeah, why low to season three?
25:36 --> 25:41 [SPEAKER_07]: This is one that I liked the last season, although it was a bit too nihilistic for me.
25:41 --> 25:43 [SPEAKER_07]: It's some point that I don't know.
25:44 --> 25:45 [SPEAKER_07]: It's in contention for my top 10,
25:49 --> 25:50 [SPEAKER_07]: from personally.
25:51 --> 25:53 [SPEAKER_07]: It's one 15 Emmys to date.
25:53 --> 25:54 [SPEAKER_07]: It's doing fine.
25:54 --> 25:55 [SPEAKER_07]: But I think the jugg.
25:55 --> 25:55 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
25:56 --> 25:59 [SPEAKER_07]: The juggernaut this year is definitely severance season two.
25:59 --> 26:02 [SPEAKER_07]: The most nominated show overall with 27.
26:02 --> 26:09 [SPEAKER_07]: It's already one for guest actress for Marit Weaver, which means Jena Lingsander and Gwenllin Christie did not get it.
26:10 --> 26:24 [SPEAKER_07]: It's one for cinematography, one hour narrative contemporary production design, score for a series, sound mixing for one hour and title design and it's still up for a drama and a bunch of acting and writing and directing.
26:25 --> 26:28 [SPEAKER_03]: I'd love to see Britt Lauer win for lead actress.
26:30 --> 26:30 [SPEAKER_03]: She did.
26:30 --> 26:32 [SPEAKER_03]: I think an amazing job, especially with her.
26:32 --> 26:32 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
26:32 --> 26:33 [SPEAKER_03]: The
26:34 --> 26:36 [SPEAKER_03]: thing that she had to do this season.
26:36 --> 26:39 [SPEAKER_03]: I thought she did really well.
26:40 --> 26:41 [SPEAKER_03]: Very subtle acting.
26:41 --> 26:47 [SPEAKER_03]: There's a very subtle shifts in her portrayal and what she just do and I thought she handled that solidly.
26:48 --> 26:51 [SPEAKER_03]: And Trommel Tillman I would love to see as supporting actor as well.
26:52 --> 26:58 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I would honestly be surprised if Britt Lauer doesn't win really.
26:58 --> 26:58 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
26:58 --> 26:59 [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
26:59 --> 26:59 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
26:59 --> 27:00 [SPEAKER_07]: I think she'll win.
27:00 --> 27:05 [SPEAKER_07]: I think that it's going to win overall as far as supporting actor.
27:05 --> 27:10 [SPEAKER_07]: I don't I think Walton Goggins could get it for White Lotus.
27:10 --> 27:11 [SPEAKER_07]: No, I see.
27:11 --> 27:12 [SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
27:12 --> 27:13 [SPEAKER_06]: I think I would be fine with that.
27:13 --> 27:15 [SPEAKER_06]: You know, like I the only one out of.
27:18 --> 27:23 [SPEAKER_06]: out of the severance that I feel like really is in the running for it is Tremel Tillman or John Tuturo.
27:23 --> 27:27 [SPEAKER_06]: I don't think exact carrier but just a trisha arcades performance is really this season.
27:28 --> 27:29 [SPEAKER_06]: Rose to that level.
27:29 --> 27:35 [SPEAKER_06]: So I would be fine with any of those Tremel, John and Walton.
27:35 --> 27:36 [SPEAKER_07]: Well then.
27:37 --> 27:37 [SPEAKER_03]: I watched.
27:38 --> 27:39 [SPEAKER_03]: I needed to break last night.
27:39 --> 27:42 [SPEAKER_03]: And so I just wanted to watch something that I wanted to watch.
27:42 --> 27:43 [SPEAKER_03]: And
27:44 --> 28:06 [SPEAKER_03]: since we had done French connection and heat, I watched to live in Dynal, which is a, William Friedkin movie and John Tuturo's in it and I completely forgot that he was in it and it was so weird to see him as a young man who gets thrown into jail and has like, is a violent criminal type person?
28:07 --> 28:07 [SPEAKER_03]: It was wild.
28:08 --> 28:10 [SPEAKER_03]: Tuturo has an amazing career.
28:12 --> 28:14 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, oh brother were out though.
28:14 --> 28:27 [SPEAKER_06]: That's that's the first thing I saw him and I think and okay I did not realize it was the same actor and I went back and watched her brother were out then I was like, is that Wait, why he he used to be younger Imagine that
28:28 --> 28:38 [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, him and Christopher walk in showing up in this show and their story together, we just wanted the biggest surprises for season one.
28:38 --> 28:42 [SPEAKER_07]: And by the way, season one, one, two Emmys from music composition and main title design.
28:42 --> 28:48 [SPEAKER_07]: So this is already a huge step up, and it's likely to be the biggest winner of the night, I think.
28:48 --> 28:54 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, it's great that they're pulling, they've won so many, and then they're going to win a
28:57 --> 28:57 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
28:58 --> 29:03 [SPEAKER_07]: You know what's a show that I think has won too many awards so far.
29:04 --> 29:06 [SPEAKER_07]: Is the boys season four?
29:06 --> 29:07 [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, really?
29:08 --> 29:10 [SPEAKER_07]: It got four nominations and it won three of them.
29:10 --> 29:15 [SPEAKER_07]: It won for, it did not win for guest actor for Esposito.
29:16 --> 29:21 [SPEAKER_07]: It did win for stunt coordination for drama stunt performance and it won a matter about this.
29:21 --> 29:22 [SPEAKER_07]: It won for original
29:27 --> 29:36 [SPEAKER_07]: I get to all along the ballad, which is road and over, for example, the anthem of the gore from end or like, what?
29:37 --> 29:38 [SPEAKER_07]: I don't remember.
29:38 --> 29:41 [SPEAKER_07]: It's like, let's put the crisis in Christmas is the boy song.
29:41 --> 29:42 [SPEAKER_07]: I'm mad about that one.
29:43 --> 29:45 [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, go ahead David.
29:45 --> 29:49 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, no, I was just going to say, I just crashed out so hard on one.
29:49 --> 29:51 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't, did I be making into two episodes?
29:52 --> 29:53 [SPEAKER_03]: It just lost itself.
29:53 --> 29:55 [SPEAKER_03]: Sorry, go ahead, John, you have.
29:55 --> 30:03 [SPEAKER_06]: I was going to say a similar thing is like, hey, I mean, I was five or six, but I, I very, really will like stop watching a show in the middle of a season.
30:03 --> 30:08 [SPEAKER_06]: Um, um, well, I mean, like, if I get busy, but like then I'll still intend to come back to it.
30:09 --> 30:13 [SPEAKER_06]: I intentionally just stopped watching the boys after like five or six episodes.
30:13 --> 30:13 [SPEAKER_06]: I was like,
30:13 --> 30:14 [SPEAKER_06]: This is not fun.
30:14 --> 30:16 [SPEAKER_06]: This is a waste of my time.
30:16 --> 30:26 [SPEAKER_07]: This is this has become self-flagelating I mean I finished this season, but I'm glad that they have coming season as a last because it's just a notice You know, I was talking with Erin about it.
30:26 --> 30:38 [SPEAKER_07]: Obviously they covered on radioactive ramlings and and you know Doing peacemaker coverage and they're gonna be covering gen V and gen V we're saying we like better because it has more hearts And that is something that I need from a show.
30:38 --> 30:40 [SPEAKER_07]: I need heart and the boys is just
30:41 --> 31:03 [SPEAKER_03]: It's like it's interesting because if your ratios are off in your recipe and I'm thinking of how so the dragon season one there was no humor there was no levity not even just a little moment here there and then otherwise you're just working oh my god this is so hard and that's it's an interesting comment that same thing with the boys it's
31:04 --> 31:28 [SPEAKER_06]: it's all levity but it has no heart right so and it's all you know hypergore so you need something you need a leavening agent there you need something else to offset it yeah I mean we were just talking about airplane and priorities in satire and the boys is at its base a parody in satire right that is it is a satire of superhero movies which has kind of shifted
31:33 --> 31:55 [SPEAKER_06]: I think part of the reason it's a problem is like it's only satire and parity with no, like I really don't care about any character anymore and you need that base like in airplane I care if Ned's gonna let head Ned somebody that is gonna land the plane I want him to land the plane while he's sweating buckets but I just don't like if if any of those characters die in
32:00 --> 32:00 [SPEAKER_07]: All right.
32:01 --> 32:06 [SPEAKER_07]: I'm going to do a speed round just shouting out which there's the one nominations club.
32:07 --> 32:08 [SPEAKER_07]: These are just shows.
32:08 --> 32:12 [SPEAKER_07]: I picked out that I either we cover or were popular the network.
32:13 --> 32:13 [SPEAKER_07]: None of these one.
32:14 --> 32:15 [SPEAKER_07]: They're single nomination so far.
32:15 --> 32:17 [SPEAKER_07]: So that's rings a power did not win VFX.
32:17 --> 32:22 [SPEAKER_07]: The acolyte did not win sound editing department queue did not win mind main title sequence.
32:23 --> 32:33 [SPEAKER_07]: Also, hand maids, tails, season six final season walks away with nothing, umbrella, catamise, final season walks away with nothing, nothing for dark matter or the wolf haul sequel.
32:34 --> 32:45 [SPEAKER_07]: And we were worried about, well, not worried about, but just the house of dragon season two was not our favorite and it seems to have was not for the voters either.
32:46 --> 32:48 [SPEAKER_07]: They won for fantasy makeup.
32:49 --> 32:55 [SPEAKER_07]: but lost their other five nominations, Dune Prophecy did not get any of their nominations.
32:55 --> 33:02 [SPEAKER_07]: And Pitchinko season two did not get cinematography because everyone stood and it did not get production design because Andor did.
33:03 --> 33:06 [SPEAKER_07]: So it's like, okay, tough year, yeah, tough year.
33:07 --> 33:10 [SPEAKER_07]: Bridgerton did win voiceover for Julie Unders.
33:10 --> 33:30 [SPEAKER_07]: That's why I alluded to didn't win and it won for period costumes and period fantasy and hair which beat out, you know, Agatha and some others and like interview with the vampire interview with the vampire didn't Yeah, lost its two nominations to Bridgerton and house of the dragon and yeah.
33:31 --> 33:35 [SPEAKER_07]: Squid game zero nominations is season two.
33:35 --> 33:38 [SPEAKER_07]: We'll see about season three and the wheel of time season three
33:42 --> 33:42 [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, man.
33:42 --> 33:51 [SPEAKER_07]: So latest news with Wheel of Times season three is that Sony has released their claim to the right, so it goes back to IWAT, which is actually not good news.
33:51 --> 33:55 [SPEAKER_07]: It just means they've basically everyone's just given up.
33:55 --> 33:58 [SPEAKER_07]: But they're still signing petitions.
33:58 --> 34:04 [SPEAKER_07]: They're still, it's like more than 225 signatures now, I think, which is like a record or something.
34:06 --> 34:08 [SPEAKER_07]: Love is not enough to bring this back at this point in time.
34:08 --> 34:10 [SPEAKER_07]: It seems sorry.
34:10 --> 34:29 [SPEAKER_06]: I was I was listening to the I have the world audio book What trying to falsely be other night because sometimes I'll all listen to the real time falsely and I was like I wonder how they'll They'll adapt like this later plot point in the show and I was like oh wait They're not and yeah, I got a little sad, you know, yeah
34:31 --> 34:34 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I really liked the cast.
34:34 --> 34:35 [SPEAKER_07]: I really liked what they were doing.
34:35 --> 34:40 [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, there's still a delusional part of me that's like, they're still time.
34:40 --> 34:41 [SPEAKER_07]: They're still time.
34:42 --> 34:43 [SPEAKER_07]: Somebody.
34:43 --> 34:45 [SPEAKER_06]: I'm going to hold your hand when I say this, Alicia.
34:51 --> 35:00 [SPEAKER_07]: But yeah, I guess that's basically Kathy Bates has a record for the oldest woman in the nominated for a lead drama actress category for Matlock this year.
35:00 --> 35:02 [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, funny.
35:02 --> 35:04 [SPEAKER_07]: I think Britt Lauer is probably going to win.
35:04 --> 35:05 [SPEAKER_07]: I don't know.
35:05 --> 35:06 [SPEAKER_07]: I suppose it's between the two of them.
35:08 --> 35:17 [SPEAKER_07]: And Julia Nicholson, Catherine O'Hare and Jeffrey Wright, all received two Emmy nominations this year for separate projects.
35:18 --> 35:23 [SPEAKER_03]: So what was Jeffrey Wright's?
35:25 --> 35:33 [SPEAKER_07]: The last of us and what if, as the watcher, and he didn't win either of those, but he did too, not many things.
35:33 --> 35:35 [SPEAKER_07]: All right, well, her enough.
35:38 --> 35:42 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, at the Emmys, I'm not sure or I mean, just anything as you want.
35:42 --> 35:43 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, Oscar.
35:43 --> 35:44 [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, an Oscar.
35:44 --> 35:45 [SPEAKER_07]: I don't think so.
35:45 --> 35:46 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, oh, look up.
35:46 --> 35:47 [SPEAKER_03]: All right.
35:47 --> 35:47 [SPEAKER_07]: You look at it.
35:48 --> 35:50 [SPEAKER_07]: And we'll take a quick break here.
35:50 --> 35:54 [SPEAKER_07]: And when we get back, we're going to talk about the comedy categories.
36:08 --> 36:12 [SPEAKER_07]: All right, so best comedy series before I read out the nominations.
36:12 --> 36:18 [SPEAKER_07]: The most nominated in here is the studio, which we kind of who, especially me, I'll say I'm a studio hater.
36:19 --> 36:26 [SPEAKER_07]: But so Davey Mac, he is representing the people who really like the show.
36:26 --> 36:27 [SPEAKER_07]: Obviously, it's a very popular show.
36:28 --> 36:30 [SPEAKER_07]: So he sent in some feedback, John, do you want to read it?
36:31 --> 36:35 [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, it is high David John and Alicia, hello,
36:37 --> 36:42 [SPEAKER_06]: just wanted to say that I enjoyed the first Emmy episode and I'm very much looking forward to more Emmy coverage.
36:43 --> 36:48 [SPEAKER_06]: I just wanted to write a defense studio since none of you were that keen on it.
36:48 --> 36:49 [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, I didn't watch it.
36:49 --> 36:50 [SPEAKER_06]: I just I just hate Seth Rogan.
36:52 --> 36:55 [SPEAKER_06]: Maybe I'll watch it eventually and I'll be like, this is the greatest show ever.
36:55 --> 36:56 [SPEAKER_03]: It's cringy.
36:56 --> 36:56 [SPEAKER_03]: It's cringy.
36:57 --> 37:03 [SPEAKER_06]: It is kind of cringe, but then I have to look at Seth Rogan and I he's very Seth Roganie in this.
37:04 --> 37:06 [SPEAKER_06]: I His whole stick.
37:06 --> 37:06 [SPEAKER_06]: I can all right.
37:06 --> 37:07 [SPEAKER_06]: All right.
37:07 --> 37:07 [SPEAKER_06]: This is Davey Mac show.
37:09 --> 37:18 [SPEAKER_06]: I'm moving on Sure, Hollywood does love shows and movies about Hollywood, but I think this show absolutely deserves And nominations it got it all the categories.
37:18 --> 37:22 [SPEAKER_06]: Okay, maybe they went a little overboard with guest actor in the male category
37:23 --> 37:44 [SPEAKER_06]: It's just incredibly well crafted and it's quite ambitious in the way it will play with different genre conventions or even set entire episodes within a single genre and sure some of the cameos are a little bit intelligent but there are also some really inspired ones that go beyond just being simple cameos and they play integral parts.
37:45 --> 37:48 [SPEAKER_06]: within the actual block machinations of the episodes ofselves.
37:48 --> 37:59 [SPEAKER_06]: Sarah Polly, Ron Howard, Olivia Wilde, Zooey Cravitz, Dave Franco, Anthony Mackie, all have more to do more going on than just popping up so the audience can do the Leo pointing in.
38:00 --> 38:09 [SPEAKER_06]: But even some of the cameos of people just popping in for a scene or two are really fun and often tie into the main plot in interesting ways Adam Scott is a great example.
38:10 --> 38:13 [SPEAKER_06]: Can I just say, pausing here, this is John's interesting.
38:14 --> 38:17 [SPEAKER_06]: That's kind of savage for him to have Dave Franco on after his break up with James Franco.
38:18 --> 38:23 [SPEAKER_06]: That's that's that's Seth that's that's almost rubbing salt in the moon.
38:24 --> 38:26 [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, but I mean, I'm sure that they were.
38:27 --> 38:30 [SPEAKER_07]: all friends and Dave Franco seems to not have done the creepy things.
38:31 --> 38:34 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, by the way, I'm not saying you shouldn't have been cut off just to be clear.
38:35 --> 38:44 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I just in a side, um, the whole James Franco thing I heard the pretty much one of the exact stories that went public.
38:44 --> 38:51 [SPEAKER_07]: I heard about via a friend of a friend who took one of his acting classes a year before and she was not one of the women who stepped forward.
38:51 --> 38:53 [SPEAKER_07]: So I 100% believe everything.
38:53 --> 38:53 [SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
38:54 --> 38:57 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I certainly don't think it was wrong for Seth.
38:57 --> 38:59 [SPEAKER_06]: We're going to cut off too much.
38:59 --> 39:02 [SPEAKER_06]: I was just saying, oh man, that's, that's almost savage.
39:02 --> 39:04 [SPEAKER_06]: All right.
39:04 --> 39:08 [SPEAKER_06]: And then there are some great guest spots from people who are not playing themselves.
39:08 --> 39:10 [SPEAKER_06]: Rebecca Hall and Brian Kranson leap to mind.
39:11 --> 39:11 [SPEAKER_06]: On top of that,
39:12 --> 39:13 [SPEAKER_06]: The core cast is just stellar.
39:13 --> 39:15 [SPEAKER_06]: Catherine O'Hara is never not great.
39:16 --> 39:22 [SPEAKER_06]: Katherine Hahn is just devouring the scenery and she's constantly outdoing herself with both her hairstyle and outfits.
39:23 --> 39:25 [SPEAKER_06]: Honestly, she's worth the price of admission alone.
39:26 --> 39:32 [SPEAKER_06]: Ike, Baron Haltz, and Chase Sui Wonders fill out the rest of the ensemble to greet effect.
39:32 --> 39:36 [SPEAKER_06]: And I think Seth Rogen is actually quite generous with the whole cast in all the guests.
39:37 --> 39:42 [SPEAKER_06]: He's constantly making himself the most pathetic character, often the butt of the joke and letting others shine.
39:46 --> 39:48 [SPEAKER_06]: He's trying to do the next career with enthusiasm, I think.
39:49 --> 39:49 [SPEAKER_07]: Mm-hmm.
39:49 --> 39:52 [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, you're not wrong in terms of this show.
39:53 --> 39:59 [SPEAKER_06]: Lastly, in regards to the comedy and writing of it all, well, I do think the cringe humor label absolutely applies.
39:59 --> 40:03 [SPEAKER_06]: I also, I think it's also just really sharply written.
40:03 --> 40:07 [SPEAKER_06]: There's a screwball pace to the delivery to the line delivery that I love.
40:08 --> 40:10 [SPEAKER_06]: There's also some incredible physical comedy throughout the season.
40:11 --> 40:19 [SPEAKER_06]: The episodes are immaculately constructed, often with punchlines and character arcs building beautifully over the course of an entire episode and paying off in fun, creative ways.
40:20 --> 40:23 [SPEAKER_06]: Its brand of chaos is really hard to put off.
40:23 --> 40:27 [SPEAKER_06]: Pull off, and I think they've done it here.
40:28 --> 40:36 [SPEAKER_06]: Sure, some of the Hollywood commentary may be a bit obvious and on the nose, and maybe it is a bit too in love with Hollywood at times.
40:40 --> 40:42 [SPEAKER_06]: but I don't think it's trying to be the player either.
40:43 --> 40:53 [SPEAKER_07]: And I think just a jump in there, I think that the it being so in love with Hollywood is why it's so heavily nominated and awarded already.
40:53 --> 40:59 [SPEAKER_07]: And yeah, it is just, it's a bunch of people being like,
41:00 --> 41:01 [SPEAKER_07]: We're doing great things, right?
41:01 --> 41:04 [SPEAKER_07]: And it's super fun and funny in all the awkward ways that we do these things.
41:06 --> 41:09 [SPEAKER_07]: So yeah, I can see why it's loved within the industry.
41:09 --> 41:12 [SPEAKER_07]: But I like franchise better personally.
41:12 --> 41:14 [SPEAKER_07]: Anyway, sorry, it's David Mekho.
41:14 --> 41:14 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
41:16 --> 41:27 [SPEAKER_06]: Lastly, it's just gorgeous to look at companies are not often called out for their cinematography, but damn, shots and camera work and this thing are top notch, impressively varied, in both style and approach.
41:27 --> 41:30 [SPEAKER_06]: all matching perfectly the mood and tone they are going for.
41:30 --> 41:35 [SPEAKER_06]: I understand the show is not for everyone, but I do think it's deserving of the nominations that got.
41:36 --> 41:41 [SPEAKER_06]: And if it does win anything, I just hope Cel Sabrstein gets a shout out in the thank you speech.
41:42 --> 41:44 [SPEAKER_07]: Which is just Cel Sabrstein, where are you going to do it?
41:44 --> 41:46 [SPEAKER_07]: It's who people think his character is based on.
41:48 --> 41:49 [SPEAKER_06]: So yeah, like Adam Scott.
41:52 --> 41:56 [SPEAKER_06]: So the studio, oh, that's a photo of Adam Scott with Cell Saberson.
41:57 --> 41:59 [SPEAKER_06]: Sorry, I think that's a photo of Adam Scott with Cell Saberson.
41:59 --> 42:01 [SPEAKER_07]: Sorry, I think that's a photo of Adam.
42:01 --> 42:02 [SPEAKER_06]: Before I get added.
42:02 --> 42:06 [SPEAKER_07]: So the studio got 23 nominations.
42:06 --> 42:11 [SPEAKER_07]: And yeah, I did get, they've already handed out the guest act or nominations.
42:11 --> 42:13 [SPEAKER_07]: It was nominated for four out of the five or was it?
42:14 --> 42:17 [SPEAKER_07]: No, wait, one, two, three, four, no.
42:17 --> 42:20 [SPEAKER_07]: Five out of the six nominations were for this show.
42:21 --> 42:45 [SPEAKER_07]: um, it won one of them for Brian Kredston, and it also won for casting for a comedy cinematography as, uh, as Davie was saying for the oneer, which is the one shot episode the second one, um, narrative half-hour production design, contemporary costumes, editing for a single camera comedy, music supervision, sound editing, half-hour, sound mixing, half-hour.
42:45 --> 42:50 [SPEAKER_07]: And you know it's interesting, by the way, the whole editing single camera comedy thing.
42:51 --> 43:05 [SPEAKER_07]: I looked at all the nominations for the multiple camera comedies and the winner in that category by the way, was Frazier, but we don't talk about any of those, like all of the comedies that we talk about as Laura Hounds are single camera.
43:06 --> 43:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Interesting.
43:07 --> 43:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
43:09 --> 43:09 [SPEAKER_01]: That's interesting.
43:10 --> 43:16 [SPEAKER_07]: But yeah, it's up for more acting, writing, directing, nominations.
43:16 --> 43:19 [SPEAKER_07]: It tied with the bear for most comedy nominations ever.
43:20 --> 43:21 [SPEAKER_07]: At least this is actually a comedy.
43:21 --> 43:22 [SPEAKER_07]: I'll give it that.
43:22 --> 43:25 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know why you would.
43:25 --> 43:30 [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, it's a bear even, like there's funny points, but it's like incidental.
43:32 --> 43:35 [SPEAKER_07]: And they used for the first, what, go ahead.
43:35 --> 43:42 [SPEAKER_07]: As I said, it's the first ever acting nominations for Martin Scorsese and Ron Howard, which for obvious reasons, because they're directors.
43:42 --> 43:44 [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, actually, Ron Howard did start.
43:44 --> 43:45 [SPEAKER_03]: No, right hand, right hand, right hand, right hand.
43:45 --> 43:46 [SPEAKER_03]: Go back.
43:46 --> 43:46 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
43:47 --> 43:54 [SPEAKER_07]: And yeah, so sorry to Burnthal and the bear did not win for sure.
43:54 --> 43:56 [SPEAKER_03]: Sure, yeah, yeah, that's fine.
43:57 --> 43:59 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
43:59 --> 44:01 [SPEAKER_03]: So we talk or well what's next?
44:01 --> 44:03 [SPEAKER_03]: I want to because we'll talk about the bear.
44:03 --> 44:05 [SPEAKER_03]: I guess when we get down to the bear on your own.
44:05 --> 44:05 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
44:05 --> 44:06 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, sure.
44:06 --> 44:13 [SPEAKER_07]: So I'll just say so that's I the studio has a great chance to win this overall the other companies.
44:13 --> 44:15 [SPEAKER_03]: It feels like it has the momentum.
44:15 --> 44:16 [SPEAKER_07]: Mm-hmm.
44:16 --> 44:32 [SPEAKER_07]: The other nominees are taxis and four with 14 nums, the bear season three with 13, only murders in the building was seven, shrinking was seven, habit elementary season four with six, what we do in the shadows was six, nobody wants this with three, but yeah, let's jump into the bear.
44:32 --> 44:39 [SPEAKER_07]: I David, I know that it's on FX on Hulu for anyone who doesn't know 13 nominations, it's
44:40 --> 44:45 [SPEAKER_07]: Um, didn't get any of the technical ones, but it's still up for some acting and directing.
44:45 --> 45:01 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, I know this is for season three, right, not season four, yes, correct, very important distinction really quickly to on Jeffrey Wright, where did my page go?
45:02 --> 45:12 [SPEAKER_03]: He's been nominated for an Oscar, multiple Emmys, couple of golden globes, and a couple of sag, screen actors guilds, and a Tony.
45:12 --> 45:14 [SPEAKER_03]: He's won a Tony.
45:14 --> 45:14 [SPEAKER_03]: OK.
45:15 --> 45:16 [SPEAKER_03]: He's won a Golden Globe.
45:17 --> 45:17 [SPEAKER_07]: OK.
45:17 --> 45:18 [SPEAKER_03]: And he's won an Emmy.
45:19 --> 45:23 [SPEAKER_07]: Okay, well, what was his last story?
45:23 --> 45:24 [SPEAKER_03]: So, American fiction.
45:24 --> 45:25 [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, duh.
45:25 --> 45:26 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, of course.
45:26 --> 45:27 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so yeah.
45:27 --> 45:29 [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's in there.
45:29 --> 45:32 [SPEAKER_03]: He's swinging, you know, he's, he's up in that room.
45:32 --> 45:34 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, yeah, so yeah, I'm not surprised.
45:34 --> 45:34 [SPEAKER_07]: Here's not many things.
45:35 --> 45:35 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
45:36 --> 45:37 [SPEAKER_07]: But what are your thoughts, David?
45:37 --> 45:39 [SPEAKER_07]: You're the, the bare fanatic on this pod.
45:40 --> 45:44 [SPEAKER_07]: What are your thoughts about it being season three versus season four?
45:44 --> 45:44 [SPEAKER_07]: But.
45:45 --> 45:49 [SPEAKER_07]: Even though it is season three, people will be voting, having just watched season four.
45:50 --> 45:52 [SPEAKER_03]: season three is not a comedy.
45:53 --> 45:53 [SPEAKER_07]: No.
45:54 --> 45:55 [SPEAKER_07]: It's season four a comedy thing.
45:56 --> 45:57 [SPEAKER_03]: No.
45:59 --> 45:59 [SPEAKER_03]: It is not.
46:00 --> 46:03 [SPEAKER_03]: This does not belong in the comedy genre.
46:03 --> 46:05 [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's ridiculous that it's there.
46:05 --> 46:06 [SPEAKER_03]: It belongs in drama.
46:06 --> 46:09 [SPEAKER_07]: I think you've gotten mad at it this year about it too.
46:10 --> 46:11 [SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
46:12 --> 46:14 [SPEAKER_03]: I think it does itself a disservice and I think
46:16 --> 46:43 [SPEAKER_03]: the comedy award nominees because it's just it's you know how are you going to judge a pineapple to an apple right it's like okay they're fruit but it's just wildly different here but I will say something about the bear really quick because it is going to be in my I'm sure it will be in my top five we'll see the shake out of me but it's it's in there with a lot of things but this is the thing about the bear I think when it's all said and done
46:45 --> 46:55 [SPEAKER_03]: And you look back over, I think it's going to be all five seasons, we're going to look at it as something that is not, it's not television the way we know it.
46:55 --> 46:56 [SPEAKER_03]: It's not the pit.
46:56 --> 46:57 [SPEAKER_03]: It's not slow horses.
46:57 --> 47:04 [SPEAKER_03]: It's not even an end or it's not even alien earth and it's breaking of genre conventions.
47:05 --> 47:06 [SPEAKER_03]: It's not even Barry.
47:07 --> 47:28 [SPEAKER_03]: It is ultimately, I think, the way that I'm relating to it is visual literature, it's a book that has been visualized from the get-go, because the chapters and the sub chapters, I don't know, like, you know, how you can book within a book kind of thing, so that's kind of like the seasons.
47:29 --> 47:30 [SPEAKER_03]: and episodes of the chapters.
47:30 --> 47:39 [SPEAKER_03]: There is long as they need to be, they break convention in terms of normal flow and ebs of, oh, I didn't like this episode because nothing happened or whatever.
47:40 --> 47:42 [SPEAKER_03]: Sometimes it happens in a book chapter.
47:42 --> 47:46 [SPEAKER_03]: And I think when we are all said and done, this is a visual book.
47:47 --> 48:05 [SPEAKER_03]: And it is not TV in the way that we understand TV, even with the genre bending or genre breaking techniques that some TV directors or writers and showrunners do, this is something entirely different.
48:05 --> 48:09 [SPEAKER_03]: And so even that we put it as TV is weird because we watch it on TV.
48:09 --> 48:12 [SPEAKER_03]: So that's my soap box on the bear.
48:16 --> 48:38 [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, I, yeah, I was say I, I am still, I've watched the eight episodes of season three of the season that's nominated and I'm looking forward to getting to the last season and I and when I watch it like I mostly enjoy it, except when it's really stressful, which is really only a couple of episodes early on in the
48:39 --> 48:41 [SPEAKER_03]: in seasons one in season two.
48:41 --> 48:44 [SPEAKER_03]: There's like two like or maybe one in season one.
48:45 --> 48:48 [SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, there's there are more calm episodes than there are stress episodes.
48:48 --> 48:51 [SPEAKER_07]: But anyway, yeah, yeah, no, but it's true.
48:51 --> 49:04 [SPEAKER_07]: But because yeah, then the calm episodes, like I appreciate them as a work of art, but I'm not compelled to like I'm it's a show that I'm very happy to watch at the pace that I've been watching it now, which is why I hate that it's a binge drop.
49:09 --> 49:11 [SPEAKER_03]: Here's my point on that.
49:12 --> 49:18 [SPEAKER_03]: Because it's, we're relating to it, like this is goes to my central argument.
49:18 --> 49:24 [SPEAKER_03]: We're relating to it as television, as a serialized sort of on-screen thing.
49:25 --> 49:27 [SPEAKER_03]: My preference would be,
49:29 --> 49:31 [SPEAKER_03]: And this is an impossible thing to say.
49:32 --> 49:44 [SPEAKER_03]: But if I were to recommend the bear to someone to anyone on the street, I would say wait until season five finishes and then watch it at your own pace, like you do with a book.
49:45 --> 49:52 [SPEAKER_03]: Sometimes you hit stretches where you're like, ah, I can't put this down and then other times you go a little busy and you read a little bit slower.
49:52 --> 49:58 [SPEAKER_03]: And oh, this is kind of a slog chapter, but then wow, the next chapter, to me, the bear,
50:00 --> 50:05 [SPEAKER_03]: It has to be taken on its own terms outside of our TV watching conventions.
50:06 --> 50:10 [SPEAKER_03]: I get the idea, because it's not about what happens next.
50:10 --> 50:22 [SPEAKER_03]: It's not a cliffhanger thing, it needs to be paced for you, not for the industry, right?
50:22 --> 50:22 [SPEAKER_03]: Does that make sense?
50:28 --> 50:29 [SPEAKER_03]: we need a week to process it.
50:30 --> 50:32 [SPEAKER_03]: And it is a serialized story.
50:32 --> 50:34 [SPEAKER_03]: The Bayer is not a serialized story.
50:34 --> 50:35 [SPEAKER_03]: That's, I think that's my point.
50:35 --> 50:37 [SPEAKER_03]: I think that's where I'm coming to.
50:38 --> 51:04 [SPEAKER_07]: I hope though next year that they submit that they, you know, they have to at this point campaign to change it to a drama, but I hope they do that next year because I think people are getting annoyed with it, as I said, this comedy, it did not win it last one best comedy in 2023 last year the hacks was the surprise that beat the bear as best comedy so hacks this year has one more nomination than at 14 nominees.
51:05 --> 51:09 [SPEAKER_07]: It's so far has one best guest actress for Julia Nicholson.
51:10 --> 51:13 [SPEAKER_07]: I'm still in the middle of season two of Hacks.
51:13 --> 51:13 [SPEAKER_07]: I enjoy the show.
51:15 --> 51:20 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, so I don't know anything about the new season, but it's up for some more acting and writing and directing.
51:21 --> 51:25 [SPEAKER_03]: My wife and I were, we really enjoyed it along with only murders.
51:26 --> 51:31 [SPEAKER_03]: And we're up through only murder season four, but we kind of ground down with season four of Hacks.
51:32 --> 51:35 [SPEAKER_03]: because it was like, okay, where are we going with this?
51:35 --> 51:38 [SPEAKER_03]: What are we doing in it and it started off?
51:38 --> 51:42 [SPEAKER_03]: It felt like the season was starting off in an even harsher vibe.
51:42 --> 51:44 [SPEAKER_03]: There was a lot of antagonism.
51:44 --> 51:47 [SPEAKER_03]: And we kind of come to the hacks for the...
51:50 --> 51:54 [SPEAKER_03]: the biting sarcasm and the jokes and stuff like that.
51:54 --> 51:58 [SPEAKER_03]: And it felt like the stakes got a little bit more serious at the beginning of season four.
51:58 --> 52:01 [SPEAKER_03]: And then we just didn't ever pick it up and we just busy and stuff like that.
52:02 --> 52:07 [SPEAKER_03]: So I don't think we will not come back to hacks.
52:07 --> 52:09 [SPEAKER_03]: If we have some time, then maybe we'll get to it.
52:10 --> 52:15 [SPEAKER_03]: It just was like, I kind of want something sweet and not savory right now.
52:15 --> 52:16 [SPEAKER_03]: And it felt a little bit more savory.
52:17 --> 52:24 [SPEAKER_07]: And maybe that was, yeah, I had the opposite problem with only murders this season, so this season got seven nominations.
52:24 --> 52:34 [SPEAKER_07]: It didn't get any of the technical wins, but it's still nominated for a comedy and lead actor for Martin Short and it's gotten seven wins out of 21 nominations so far.
52:36 --> 52:39 [SPEAKER_07]: Um, I, yeah, I struggled with season 4 of only murder.
52:39 --> 52:40 [SPEAKER_06]: We enjoyed that.
52:40 --> 52:41 [SPEAKER_07]: Okay.
52:41 --> 52:42 [SPEAKER_06]: I didn't even watch it.
52:42 --> 52:49 [SPEAKER_06]: I, I think I fell off during season 3 and I want to go back, but like, yeah, and why did you fell off?
52:50 --> 53:07 [SPEAKER_06]: I think it's got bored as I just said I don't really stop watching but I guess it's different because I do want to go back like I want to see what happened to Paul Rudd but you know I just couldn't get through it at the time.
53:09 --> 53:11 [SPEAKER_06]: The boys I don't intend to go back that's over for me.
53:12 --> 53:16 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I mean, I was, I struggled with the most recent season.
53:16 --> 53:20 [SPEAKER_07]: I think because it felt like it was, it was maybe too slight for me.
53:20 --> 53:22 [SPEAKER_07]: So maybe it's the opposite where I didn't feel.
53:22 --> 53:25 [SPEAKER_07]: And also, what the hell, Theo wasn't there?
53:25 --> 53:28 [SPEAKER_07]: That's, I'm shipping Mabel and Theo.
53:28 --> 53:29 [SPEAKER_07]: That would be good.
53:31 --> 53:38 [SPEAKER_03]: It's a hard show to do because how many murders can these people encounter in there?
53:39 --> 53:44 [SPEAKER_03]: And then to re-inventing the things so that there's a fresh angle and something new.
53:44 --> 53:49 [SPEAKER_03]: And I thought that they've done pretty well so far, all things considering.
53:50 --> 53:50 [SPEAKER_03]: And then to...
53:51 --> 54:03 [SPEAKER_03]: have a reboot for Martin or Steve Martin and Martin Shore and to give Selena Gomez, you know, I mean, God, what an opportunity.
54:03 --> 54:12 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, she's her primary billing is not even as an actress, more as a singer, but to be an actor and then to be with
54:13 --> 54:20 [SPEAKER_03]: two people that have had such a career as Steve Martin and Martin sure that's an amazing opportunity.
54:20 --> 54:21 [SPEAKER_03]: So I've a lot of heart for the show.
54:22 --> 54:27 [SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, so we'll see, but every season, they come back.
54:27 --> 54:36 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm biting my nails a little bit harder going can they pull it off can they pull it off because if there's nothing fresh it'll this show could get stale really fast.
54:36 --> 54:41 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I just want to before you get added Selena Gomez did start it off as an actor on Disney channels.
54:41 --> 54:47 [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, we've really placed and then she did the Santa Disney pipeline, which is you do your acting for a while.
54:48 --> 54:51 [SPEAKER_06]: I go be able to pop star for a little while, then you go back to acting.
54:51 --> 54:55 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I'm showing my my generational well, no, because we're I'm a
54:57 --> 54:59 [SPEAKER_07]: But this is definitely a millennial thing.
54:59 --> 55:01 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, that's a millennial show.
55:01 --> 55:03 [SPEAKER_06]: I don't, I was like, too old for it by the time.
55:03 --> 55:03 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
55:04 --> 55:06 [SPEAKER_03]: But they created this pipeline long ago.
55:06 --> 55:07 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah.
55:07 --> 55:08 [SPEAKER_03]: We were a producer.
55:08 --> 55:08 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
55:08 --> 55:10 [SPEAKER_06]: Let's like go house for a little bird.
55:10 --> 55:11 [SPEAKER_07]: I was like, yeah.
55:11 --> 55:13 [SPEAKER_07]: And Ryan Gosling came in the same batch.
55:13 --> 55:16 [SPEAKER_07]: And yeah, that whole, the Mickey Mouse Club, man.
55:16 --> 55:17 [SPEAKER_07]: That was really nice.
55:17 --> 55:17 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, no, no.
55:17 --> 55:18 [SPEAKER_03]: The news continues have been around a long time.
55:18 --> 55:21 [SPEAKER_06]: I'm waiting for the documentary to come out on how messed up that was.
55:23 --> 55:25 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, and I mean, like, I feel like there's got to be a story
55:26 --> 55:28 [SPEAKER_06]: like the Nickelodeon story, you know?
55:28 --> 55:31 [SPEAKER_07]: Hmm, yeah, no, absolutely.
55:31 --> 55:39 [SPEAKER_07]: I can't imagine, I mean, just, we've gotten like about Justin Timberlake and Britney Spears and all this individually.
55:39 --> 55:41 [SPEAKER_07]: So I can't imagine together what a shit show it was.
55:41 --> 55:45 [SPEAKER_06]: Oh my god, I just felt Bob Eiger secondly punched me in the face for even answering.
55:46 --> 55:48 [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, the mask is here.
55:48 --> 55:50 [SPEAKER_03]: The Mickey Mouse Club goes back to the mid-50s.
55:51 --> 56:03 [SPEAKER_07]: So, and then for the cello, there's a chunky, chunky, but I grew up watching, I'm the same age as, you know, there's people who are just naming Britney Spears Christina Aguilar and stuff.
56:03 --> 56:06 [SPEAKER_07]: So, I grew up watching them as my Mickey Mouse Club.
56:06 --> 56:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
56:07 --> 56:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, Mickey Rooney.
56:08 --> 56:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, junior, junior, junior, junior.
56:10 --> 56:14 [SPEAKER_07]: But so, but I'm definitely, I'm going to continue watching only murders in the building.
56:14 --> 56:27 [SPEAKER_07]: I do enjoy, but it's yeah, it just the last season wasn't my favorite of that show so far, but one that I, so I heard your voice in my head, John, saying, feed it to the flames.
56:27 --> 56:29 [SPEAKER_07]: You're telling me I just needed to cut off shows.
56:32 --> 56:39 [SPEAKER_07]: People are going to yell at me for this, but I gave up on shrinking halfway through season two season one, sorry.
56:40 --> 56:45 [SPEAKER_07]: I went back and I was like, I'm going to give it another try because I know a lot of people love this and I love the cast so much.
56:46 --> 56:54 [SPEAKER_07]: And it got seven nominations this year, you know, including mostly acting nominations, including Harrison Ford's first Emmy nom.
56:54 --> 56:55 [SPEAKER_07]: I love that cast.
56:55 --> 56:56 [SPEAKER_07]: I love Jason Seagull.
56:56 --> 56:57 [SPEAKER_07]: I love Jessica Williams.
56:58 --> 57:01 [SPEAKER_07]: Um, but the humor just does not hit for me.
57:01 --> 57:05 [SPEAKER_07]: So I gave up on it, but I know it's super super popular, and I'm sorry.
57:06 --> 57:07 [SPEAKER_07]: Do I either view what's shrinking?
57:08 --> 57:11 [SPEAKER_06]: You watch the first few episodes, first season, right?
57:12 --> 57:12 [SPEAKER_06]: Did you?
57:12 --> 57:14 [SPEAKER_06]: I did not watch the whole first season.
57:14 --> 57:14 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
57:14 --> 57:15 [SPEAKER_06]: You liked it much.
57:16 --> 57:17 [SPEAKER_06]: I did like what I watched.
57:17 --> 57:19 [SPEAKER_06]: This is another one where I like got distracted.
57:19 --> 57:19 [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
57:20 --> 57:21 [SPEAKER_06]: I probably should go back at some point.
57:22 --> 57:37 [SPEAKER_03]: My wife and I gave season one a try and because of some family connectivity to that world, my wife was like, nah, this is not for me, because since it's like it's too, the very similar to it is too broken.
57:38 --> 57:41 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think part of the problem is, I think part of the problem is
57:46 --> 57:52 [SPEAKER_06]: people go in expecting Ted Lasso, and it's not, and it's not, but I don't think it's trying to be Ted Lasso.
57:52 --> 58:01 [SPEAKER_06]: I think if you go in, and you're like, this is its own thing, and it's a little darker, and it's a little, I think it's old darker.
58:01 --> 58:07 [SPEAKER_06]: I think it's just a different vibe.
58:07 --> 58:09 [SPEAKER_06]: It's sort of more of like,
58:10 --> 58:15 [SPEAKER_06]: maybe I should watch more episode before I make more broad statement about it.
58:15 --> 58:28 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I think people like it because it's just like that lean back kind of, you know, casual, but yeah, indeed having any sort of background in psychology is going to make it very cringy to watch.
58:29 --> 58:30 [SPEAKER_06]: Well, I don't have that.
58:30 --> 58:33 [SPEAKER_06]: So I get to walk in and be very blind.
58:39 --> 58:52 [SPEAKER_07]: I, you know, cringe at all the jokes, but not in the like Nathan Fielder way, you know, not in the way that I'm supposed to, it's just, the humor doesn't hit for me, and that's just, yeah, that's going to be whether you like it or not, whether or not the humor hits for you.
58:53 --> 59:03 [SPEAKER_07]: Okay, the next two shows, six nominations each, I know that you watch them both, John, what we, what we do in the Shadow Season 6 and Abbott Elementary Season 4, and
59:06 --> 59:16 [SPEAKER_07]: I am still working through both of these seasons, but I am definitely more bullish on Abbott Elementary season 4, which is kind of, that's my comfort show.
59:17 --> 59:18 [SPEAKER_06]: I think that's right.
59:19 --> 59:22 [SPEAKER_06]: What we do in the shadow should have ended at the end of season 5, and it would have been a perfect ending.
59:23 --> 59:26 [SPEAKER_06]: I think season six was unnecessary, it's not as funny.
59:26 --> 59:28 [SPEAKER_06]: It's still, you know, I still like seeing the actors together.
59:28 --> 59:29 [SPEAKER_06]: They're still good jokes here and there.
59:30 --> 59:32 [SPEAKER_06]: Overall, the plot is not as funny and it's not as cohesive.
59:33 --> 59:35 [SPEAKER_06]: So I'm just gonna write that one off.
59:35 --> 59:42 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to use the studio one in one more, I guess, would be that'd be the safe bet to say.
59:42 --> 59:51 [SPEAKER_06]: It could be, I just feel like, I don't want to spoil the ending of season five, but like it really wrapped up in overarching plot line that felt like,
59:52 --> 59:53 [SPEAKER_06]: it was the show.
59:53 --> 59:57 [SPEAKER_06]: You don't even mean like that was like the main through line of the show.
59:57 --> 01:00:03 [SPEAKER_06]: And then the literally the sixth season is at character being like, well, I don't really know what to do with myself anymore.
01:00:03 --> 01:00:05 [SPEAKER_06]: And I was like, that's the show.
01:00:05 --> 01:00:08 [SPEAKER_06]: Right now, you don't know what to do with yourself.
01:00:09 --> 01:00:12 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it was like, I think they knew, you know what I mean?
01:00:12 --> 01:00:14 [SPEAKER_06]: Like, I think they knew they were like, kind of grassman for straws here.
01:00:14 --> 01:00:19 [SPEAKER_06]: I have no elementary, I haven't still worked my way through the fourth season, but so far so good.
01:00:21 --> 01:00:22 [SPEAKER_06]: It is a brilliant show.
01:00:22 --> 01:00:30 [SPEAKER_06]: It is the successor to like the office parks and rack era of Machi-Meteries.
01:00:30 --> 01:00:31 [SPEAKER_06]: It's funny.
01:00:31 --> 01:00:35 [SPEAKER_06]: You know, I think the weakest part of the season was actually the crossover with a ways sunny and Philadelphia.
01:00:35 --> 01:00:37 [SPEAKER_06]: I Haven't gotten there yet.
01:00:37 --> 01:00:39 [SPEAKER_06]: It was just not that strong.
01:00:39 --> 01:00:40 [SPEAKER_06]: It was just not that strong.
01:00:40 --> 01:00:46 [SPEAKER_06]: I think both shows are great in their own right and they just didn't jail together that much Or maybe they should have done more with it, but didn't really work for me
01:00:48 --> 01:00:49 [SPEAKER_06]: Um, but overall, you know, very good.
01:00:49 --> 01:01:00 [SPEAKER_06]: I think Quinta Bronson is a really brilliant writer and, you know, great actor, you know, and Janelle James, is that who plays the principal?
01:01:00 --> 01:01:00 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
01:01:01 --> 01:01:01 [SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
01:01:01 --> 01:01:01 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
01:01:02 --> 01:01:02 [SPEAKER_06]: She's amazing.
01:01:03 --> 01:01:03 [SPEAKER_06]: Absolutely amazing.
01:01:04 --> 01:01:04 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
01:01:05 --> 01:01:08 [SPEAKER_07]: And Charlie Ralph, you know, the other teacher.
01:01:09 --> 01:01:10 [SPEAKER_06]: Which, which teacher is she?
01:01:12 --> 01:01:13 [SPEAKER_07]: Oh gosh, what are their character names?
01:01:13 --> 01:01:14 [SPEAKER_06]: Melissa.
01:01:14 --> 01:01:17 [SPEAKER_07]: No, no, the older woman, like the men's name.
01:01:17 --> 01:01:18 [SPEAKER_06]: Oh Barbara.
01:01:18 --> 01:01:19 [SPEAKER_07]: Barbara.
01:01:19 --> 01:01:19 [SPEAKER_06]: Barbara.
01:01:20 --> 01:01:21 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
01:01:21 --> 01:01:21 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
01:01:22 --> 01:01:23 [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, it's done well.
01:01:23 --> 01:01:26 [SPEAKER_07]: It's the nominations here mostly in acting, it's got a writing name.
01:01:26 --> 01:01:31 [SPEAKER_07]: It's done well in acting in the past, quintubrensons one before.
01:01:31 --> 01:01:36 [SPEAKER_07]: I don't think that this is probably the studio's year to win a lot.
01:01:36 --> 01:01:38 [SPEAKER_07]: We'll see how anything else does.
01:01:39 --> 01:01:48 [SPEAKER_07]: But I just, yeah, I love Albert Elementary, it's one that, like, at the rate before I go to bed, I'll put on an episode and I know it'll just, you know, that's a good night.
01:01:48 --> 01:01:50 [SPEAKER_07]: That's a good note to go out on for the day.
01:01:51 --> 01:01:52 [SPEAKER_06]: That's a good thing to do.
01:01:52 --> 01:01:55 [SPEAKER_06]: I usually end up watching an episode of one piece and then it gets me really hype.
01:01:56 --> 01:01:57 [SPEAKER_06]: That's bad.
01:01:57 --> 01:01:58 [SPEAKER_06]: That's a bad idea.
01:01:59 --> 01:02:00 [SPEAKER_07]: And then I go read and read here.
01:02:01 --> 01:02:03 [SPEAKER_07]: And then the last one, I might be the only one to watch this.
01:02:03 --> 01:02:04 [SPEAKER_07]: Nobody wants this on Netflix.
01:02:05 --> 01:02:10 [SPEAKER_07]: Three nominations for comedy, lead actor, Fred and Brody, lead actress for Kristen Bell.
01:02:10 --> 01:02:18 [SPEAKER_07]: And this was, I think this was kind of like a phenomenon in terms of everybody, a lot of people really watch this.
01:02:19 --> 01:02:25 [SPEAKER_07]: It's really like anyone who is into rom coms, you probably already seen this by now.
01:02:26 --> 01:02:31 [SPEAKER_07]: I think as a show for me, it's enjoyable, it's not like...
01:02:32 --> 01:02:40 [SPEAKER_07]: It's enjoyable and it also, so the basic premise for anyone who doesn't know is that basic Christian Bell is like she's kind of like a stand-in for me.
01:02:40 --> 01:02:58 [SPEAKER_07]: She's a podcaster, she's agnostic and then she meets Adam Brody who is a rabbi and she's obviously not really just at all and so they have really great chemistry and that's what makes the show work.
01:02:58 --> 01:03:02 [SPEAKER_07]: And then it becomes, you know, immediately it's obvious they're going to get together.
01:03:02 --> 01:03:15 [SPEAKER_07]: But how can this possibly work when, you know, if he wants to be a rabbi, he doesn't need to, he needs her, you know, he needs a Jewish partner in order to have the head rabbi position.
01:03:16 --> 01:03:25 [SPEAKER_07]: And she also, she's like, why don't want to change who I am, but I do want to be with you because you are this, and they sell me on that that this is a relationship that you would fight for.
01:03:28 --> 01:03:36 [SPEAKER_07]: rehearsal obviously we've all watched it's didn't get any technical wins, but it's still up for directing and writing.
01:03:36 --> 01:03:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
01:03:39 --> 01:03:42 [SPEAKER_07]: It's interesting that it's classified as a comedy and not reality.
01:03:43 --> 01:03:45 [SPEAKER_06]: I think it is a comedy.
01:03:45 --> 01:03:47 [SPEAKER_06]: I think more of a descriptive than you think.
01:03:49 --> 01:04:00 [SPEAKER_06]: And I mean, I have the same time I think that's true for all reality shows, but, you know, I think explicitly like it is more scripted than, you know, a true reality show.
01:04:00 --> 01:04:02 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, okay.
01:04:03 --> 01:04:03 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
01:04:04 --> 01:04:04 [SPEAKER_07]: I agree.
01:04:04 --> 01:04:20 [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, yeah, I would love to see it to have a done more, but I understand it's weird and it's amazing that it's gotten as much like social capital traction as it has he reminds me I saw a Reddit post the other day that was like friendship has ruined my family.
01:04:20 --> 01:04:29 [SPEAKER_06]: the movie friendship with Tim Robinson, and it was just post about how this woman went to the theater and saw friendship and thought it was so funny.
01:04:31 --> 01:04:35 [SPEAKER_06]: And they went home and told her husband, we gotta watch this.
01:04:35 --> 01:04:37 [SPEAKER_06]: We gotta watch this when it comes out on it.
01:04:37 --> 01:04:37 [SPEAKER_06]: So it comes out on.
01:04:38 --> 01:04:42 [SPEAKER_06]: video in demand and they sit down and watch it and he's like does this get better?
01:04:42 --> 01:04:53 [SPEAKER_06]: Like this is not and and he went he goes I feel like almost angry that it was that bad like it was it was so it's a waste of my time and then but she had already told
01:04:54 --> 01:05:22 [SPEAKER_06]: her parents and her siblings that they should go watch it and they they kept texting her during the movie going like does this get better your father just walked out of the room here and afterwards the dad said we're all angry and we're going to bed and she's like I don't know I thought the movie was funny but but at the top comment was like I think Tim Robinson would find this hilarious like he'd be like it's tearing apart families
01:05:25 --> 01:05:36 [SPEAKER_06]: That's movie I think David would hate like I I don't David I don't think you should ever watch this movie okay On on the properly Howard episode about it.
01:05:37 --> 01:05:40 [SPEAKER_07]: They called it a bit of a horror movie I'm like yes, I was thinking not the whole time.
01:05:40 --> 01:05:41 [SPEAKER_07]: This is a horror movie.
01:05:41 --> 01:05:42 [SPEAKER_07]: This is comedy.
01:05:43 --> 01:05:44 [SPEAKER_06]: It's it's a horror movie.
01:05:45 --> 01:05:45 [SPEAKER_06]: That's like
01:05:46 --> 01:05:56 [SPEAKER_06]: with like the facts of a comedy right or like I don't know the structure of a com I know I don't know I don't know how to say it but you're right it is a harbour especially for the wife oh my god it's a harbour movie
01:05:57 --> 01:05:58 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
01:05:58 --> 01:05:59 [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, man.
01:06:00 --> 01:06:02 [SPEAKER_07]: Sorry, I was just thinking about the sewer anyway.
01:06:03 --> 01:06:06 [SPEAKER_07]: That's spoilers for a movie that's new freshly out.
01:06:07 --> 01:06:10 [SPEAKER_07]: But okay, here's some spoilers for things that did not win.
01:06:10 --> 01:06:15 [SPEAKER_07]: Cobra Kai, walking away, empty, I got two nominations didn't win either for its final season.
01:06:15 --> 01:06:21 [SPEAKER_07]: Dr. Who got one nomination for season one, did not win at last to a 12, at least.
01:06:27 --> 01:06:34 [SPEAKER_07]: We're nominated residents for nominations at 12 to after they were cancelled.
01:06:35 --> 01:06:37 [SPEAKER_07]: So, a 12 which is a ballet.
01:06:38 --> 01:06:45 [SPEAKER_07]: It's a ballet TV show, like a choreo, but it just feels like a people like fighting back about these cancellations.
01:06:45 --> 01:06:56 [SPEAKER_07]: Um, and I just want to shout out Colman Domingo, got a nomination for the four seasons on Netflix, uh, which I think, yeah, if there's ever an option to nominate Colman Domingo, it's going to happen.
01:06:56 --> 01:06:58 [SPEAKER_07]: It's the way it works, I love him.
01:06:59 --> 01:07:06 [SPEAKER_07]: And I want to shout out also Jeff Hiller, who plays Joel on somebody somewhere, season three the final season.
01:07:06 --> 01:07:13 [SPEAKER_07]: He got a nomination and it also got a writing nom, that somebody somewhere was on my top 10 last year, so I just want to shout out.
01:07:13 --> 01:07:14 [SPEAKER_06]: Nice.
01:07:15 --> 01:07:21 [SPEAKER_07]: Pokerface walked away empty handed and righteous gemstones had six nominations at
01:07:26 --> 01:07:28 [SPEAKER_06]: That show deserved better.
01:07:28 --> 01:07:29 [SPEAKER_06]: That was such a good last season.
01:07:29 --> 01:07:31 [SPEAKER_06]: I wrapped up exactly how it should have.
01:07:33 --> 01:07:37 [SPEAKER_06]: I think the comedy is maybe the tightest comedy writing on right now.
01:07:39 --> 01:07:42 [SPEAKER_06]: I guess was on now because, you know, it's on now.
01:07:42 --> 01:07:43 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
01:07:43 --> 01:07:44 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
01:07:44 --> 01:07:46 [SPEAKER_06]: I think that is an injustice.
01:07:46 --> 01:07:46 [SPEAKER_06]: That's a snub.
01:07:47 --> 01:07:48 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, that's definitely a snub.
01:07:48 --> 01:08:01 [SPEAKER_07]: I would like to see, even though I haven't watched this show yet, and that I'm sure I'm part of the problem there, I, from what I've heard of it and what I've seen of it, this is the kind of show comedy I would like to see being honored.
01:08:01 --> 01:08:01 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
01:08:02 --> 01:08:03 [SPEAKER_06]: It's succession as a comedy.
01:08:03 --> 01:08:04 [SPEAKER_06]: You know what I mean?
01:08:04 --> 01:08:09 [SPEAKER_06]: Like it's just like leaning into the ridiculousness of a family of rich people.
01:08:10 --> 01:08:10 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
01:08:10 --> 01:08:11 [SPEAKER_07]: Okay.
01:08:12 --> 01:08:21 [SPEAKER_07]: Um, okay, we'll take one more quick break and when we come back, we'll talk about limited and anthology series and highlights from some of the other categories.
01:08:36 --> 01:09:02 [SPEAKER_07]: So, okay, this brings us to the last major category, which is best limited or anthology series and the nominees are, in order of number nominations, the Penguin on HBO Max with 24 adolescents on Netflix with 13 monsters, the Lion and Eric Menendez story on Netflix with 11 Black Mirror season seven on Netflix with 10 dying for sex on FX on Hulu with nine.
01:09:02 --> 01:09:14 [SPEAKER_07]: And I talked to more about dying for sex last time, but I quite liked it, I think, that it was career best performances for Michelle Williams and Jenny Slate, who were both nominated.
01:09:14 --> 01:09:21 [SPEAKER_07]: So I doubt that the win, but I'm very glad to see them nominated, and I think anyone
01:09:21 --> 01:09:26 [SPEAKER_07]: You're going to laugh, you're going to cry, there's going to be some out there sex stuff.
01:09:28 --> 01:09:30 [SPEAKER_07]: If that sounds appealing to you, I have any sleep.
01:09:30 --> 01:09:33 [SPEAKER_06]: Jenny sleep, you said some out there sex stuff.
01:09:33 --> 01:09:34 [SPEAKER_07]: No, no, no.
01:09:34 --> 01:09:38 [SPEAKER_06]: I was joking because she's usually very vulgar, but No, it's actually Michelle Williams, Gary.
01:09:38 --> 01:09:39 [SPEAKER_06]: That's funny.
01:09:39 --> 01:09:42 [SPEAKER_06]: That's funny that I had just assumed it's Jenny sleep based on her previous standup.
01:09:43 --> 01:09:52 [SPEAKER_07]: Well, I love what I love about Jenny Slate character is she has full on ADHD, and it's so like cringe-recognizable heart-breaking at times.
01:09:53 --> 01:10:00 [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, with the purse, the purse, the purse, the purse, oh my god, I know the horrors of the purse, and now everybody hates the purse.
01:10:01 --> 01:10:02 [SPEAKER_06]: I have never seen this.
01:10:03 --> 01:10:12 [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, it's just, I mean, it's, you know, it's an ADHD thing, apparently, just to have this bag that has everything in it, and then you're constantly searching for things in the bag.
01:10:12 --> 01:10:14 [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, man, my mom needs to get to a psychiatrist.
01:10:18 --> 01:10:24 [SPEAKER_07]: I'll say the other one that I put into the flames was monsters, the Lion and Eric Menendez story.
01:10:24 --> 01:10:26 [SPEAKER_07]: I started it and I'm like, you know, these two crime stuff.
01:10:26 --> 01:10:28 [SPEAKER_07]: Just not for me, just not for me.
01:10:28 --> 01:10:31 [SPEAKER_07]: It already won editing, it has some more nominations.
01:10:32 --> 01:10:43 [SPEAKER_07]: I did want to bring up that a month after the season released, Los Angeles District Attorney announced that he was asking the court for a resendencing of the case.
01:10:44 --> 01:10:50 [SPEAKER_07]: So it did influence the opening of a resendencing, but it did not go in the brother's favor since then.
01:10:50 --> 01:10:52 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, so that it's interesting.
01:10:53 --> 01:10:56 [SPEAKER_06]: I listened to a very long podcast on them that I thought was very fair to them.
01:10:57 --> 01:11:01 [SPEAKER_06]: And I think one of the brothers should be allowed out and the other ones should not.
01:11:01 --> 01:11:03 [SPEAKER_06]: That's kind of where I landed.
01:11:03 --> 01:11:05 [SPEAKER_07]: I don't know the details of their story.
01:11:05 --> 01:11:08 [SPEAKER_07]: And maybe the podcast would be more of my speed.
01:11:08 --> 01:11:12 [SPEAKER_07]: The TV show was, I don't know, I was, it was rubbing me the wrong way.
01:11:13 --> 01:11:14 [SPEAKER_07]: I guess I just don't have much time.
01:11:14 --> 01:11:18 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, this was like they actually got into the background and it was very enough.
01:11:20 --> 01:11:21 [SPEAKER_07]: Okay, okay.
01:11:22 --> 01:11:26 [SPEAKER_07]: I do want to shout out and nominee Black Mirror Season 7, 10 nominations.
01:11:26 --> 01:11:29 [SPEAKER_07]: This is going to be on my top 10 for the year.
01:11:29 --> 01:11:35 [SPEAKER_07]: I just think it was one of the best, best two seasons of Black Mirror that we've had in my opinion.
01:11:35 --> 01:11:35 [SPEAKER_03]: Cool.
01:11:36 --> 01:11:52 [SPEAKER_07]: So the episodes that were nominated were common people, USS Calester into affinity, infinity, and hotel reverie, which are definitely, there's four episodes that people might call a masterpiece and the fourth one is Eulogy by Paul Giamati.
01:11:52 --> 01:11:52 [SPEAKER_07]: I was surprised.
01:11:52 --> 01:11:54 [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, Paul Giamati, he didn't wasn't by him.
01:11:55 --> 01:11:56 [SPEAKER_07]: He was the lead actor.
01:11:57 --> 01:12:00 [SPEAKER_07]: I was surprised not to see Eulogy on this list, but Eulogy,
01:12:01 --> 01:12:03 [SPEAKER_07]: David, I would recommend you watch eulogy.
01:12:03 --> 01:12:07 [SPEAKER_07]: Um, okay.
01:12:07 --> 01:12:07 [SPEAKER_07]: Uh, wait, let me think.
01:12:08 --> 01:12:14 [SPEAKER_07]: Uh, I, I, for both of you, USS Calister into infinity and Moves, there was, and what else was I thinking?
01:12:17 --> 01:12:24 [SPEAKER_07]: I don't know, common people is such a heartbreaking, tough one, but so good, and I love to tell everybody to move the industry one.
01:12:24 --> 01:12:32 [SPEAKER_07]: Um, but yeah, the two in this category that are really going head to head are the Penguin 24 nominations already won VFX.
01:12:33 --> 01:12:54 [SPEAKER_07]: Contemporary costumes contemporary hair prosthetics make up school sound editing and sound mixing and adolescence with 13 noms already one cinematography casting and making of Which actually making of these and even part of the 13 noms Yeah, these are the two best limited series of the year.
01:12:54 --> 01:12:54 [SPEAKER_07]: I agree
01:12:55 --> 01:12:57 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, when it was, penguins was last year, right?
01:12:57 --> 01:13:02 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, 2024, I'm trying to, because yeah, then we're going mid of last year, yeah.
01:13:02 --> 01:13:06 [SPEAKER_03]: And adolescence, it's going against adolescence, because I didn't watch adolescence till this year.
01:13:06 --> 01:13:09 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because it was releasing the UK.
01:13:10 --> 01:13:11 [SPEAKER_03]: No, it's an overlap.
01:13:11 --> 01:13:13 [SPEAKER_06]: It's a middle of last year to middle of this year.
01:13:13 --> 01:13:15 [SPEAKER_03]: Right, right, right, right, right, right.
01:13:15 --> 01:13:16 [SPEAKER_03]: It always breaks my brain.
01:13:16 --> 01:13:17 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that was nice.
01:13:18 --> 01:13:20 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, adolescence was,
01:13:22 --> 01:13:24 [SPEAKER_03]: So good and such a tough hang.
01:13:25 --> 01:13:38 [SPEAKER_03]: It deals, it grapples so well with such a complex issue and it gives you all kinds of points of view that I was not expecting going in.
01:13:38 --> 01:13:49 [SPEAKER_03]: I thought, oh, OK, this is going to be a British detective show, a couple of modern age, a couple of modern age detectives,
01:13:53 --> 01:14:06 [SPEAKER_03]: But then episode two and then episode three, and you're just like, whoa, and they just do this complete 360 on this really Terrifying and heart-breaking and Holy shit.
01:14:06 --> 01:14:19 [SPEAKER_03]: We need to we as a culture as it's as as a global society need to pay attention to some of this stuff It's so good and so heartbreaking, so yeah
01:14:20 --> 01:14:24 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I think the casting win was very deserved.
01:14:24 --> 01:14:26 [SPEAKER_07]: This is 14 year old Owen Cooper.
01:14:26 --> 01:14:31 [SPEAKER_07]: He's youngest nominee ever for best supporting actor in this category.
01:14:31 --> 01:14:35 [SPEAKER_07]: He would be the, if he won, he would be the youngest male winner of any acting Emmy ever.
01:14:36 --> 01:14:36 [SPEAKER_07]: Interesting.
01:14:37 --> 01:14:58 [SPEAKER_07]: Um, but yeah, casting deserve, especially just for that part to find someone who can do at that age can do this nuance where because he goes, I mean, mild spoilers, but you feel a lot of different ways about this kid as a show unfolds and, um, particularly in that third episode is the one people talk about the most.
01:15:06 --> 01:15:14 [SPEAKER_03]: to be able to pull that off with a child actor in one shot.
01:15:14 --> 01:15:15 [SPEAKER_03]: Right, that's what I was getting to.
01:15:15 --> 01:15:23 [SPEAKER_03]: To have that kind of emotional and physical focus and intensity to make a
01:15:28 --> 01:15:29 [SPEAKER_03]: phenomenal.
01:15:29 --> 01:15:33 [SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely both both him and the actress he was buying against.
01:15:34 --> 01:15:39 [SPEAKER_03]: That is such that's one of the best episodes of television ever since I think.
01:15:39 --> 01:15:39 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
01:15:40 --> 01:15:43 [SPEAKER_07]: I mean I think it's got a win writing.
01:15:43 --> 01:15:46 [SPEAKER_07]: I feel confident in a win writing.
01:15:46 --> 01:15:49 [SPEAKER_07]: I think it could very well win directing as well.
01:15:49 --> 01:15:55 [SPEAKER_07]: A lot of the acting nominations I could see except you know Colin Farrell and Kristen Melody.
01:15:57 --> 01:16:03 [SPEAKER_07]: are absolutely juggernaut when it comes to the tough choice between these two.
01:16:04 --> 01:16:04 [SPEAKER_07]: Mm-hmm.
01:16:05 --> 01:16:07 [SPEAKER_07]: It's Stephen Graham's by the way first nomination.
01:16:07 --> 01:16:07 [SPEAKER_07]: Okay.
01:16:07 --> 01:16:14 [SPEAKER_07]: But yeah, it's going to be these two as for the overall win for this category.
01:16:14 --> 01:16:20 [SPEAKER_07]: It's going to be these two going head to head in acting in the various categories and writing and directing, for sure.
01:16:22 --> 01:16:47 [SPEAKER_03]: and uh... didn't i didn't the penguin just makes him also uh... news about uh... set up for the next movie like wasn't there did i think that was what they were saying at the time so that they were sending up the next movie with the show yeah and then it was like something because that they just were you know because of the eminom things i think there were some on the back of that news news which was something about the set up of somebody was reconfirming it or i don't know something about it so
01:16:48 --> 01:16:53 [SPEAKER_07]: Well, I know who was, I think, do was saying that he saw the, they are filming right now in Liverpool?
01:16:53 --> 01:16:55 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's right, yeah, that as well.
01:16:55 --> 01:16:57 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he posted a screenshot in the discord.
01:16:58 --> 01:16:58 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
01:16:59 --> 01:17:02 [SPEAKER_07]: Um, but yeah, so that's that's this category.
01:17:02 --> 01:17:13 [SPEAKER_07]: I'd say that there are actors who were nominated who series weren't Jake Gyllenhaal was his first nomination, Bill Camp, Peter SARS-Guard, Ruth Nega, all for presumed innocent.
01:17:13 --> 01:17:22 [SPEAKER_07]: Um, Brian Tyre Henry for Dope Thief, which I know is popular show Kate Blanchett for disclaimer, and obviously you always have to take that seriously.
01:17:23 --> 01:17:31 [SPEAKER_07]: Um, which is directed by Afan's Accord on, so it's weird that that show didn't get much more attention and make and fight for Syrians.
01:17:31 --> 01:17:31 [SPEAKER_07]: Um.
01:17:33 --> 01:17:44 [SPEAKER_07]: And yeah, we could, there's some other writing nominations for say nothing and directing for zero day, but I think it's going to come down to, especially those ones we already talked about.
01:17:44 --> 01:17:44 [SPEAKER_07]: Right.
01:17:45 --> 01:17:47 [SPEAKER_07]: Um, so we already know the winner of Best TV movie.
01:17:47 --> 01:17:52 [SPEAKER_07]: I was going to rank and say which I thought should win, because I did end up watching them all.
01:17:53 --> 01:17:55 [SPEAKER_07]: And the one that I thought should win did win.
01:17:55 --> 01:17:58 [SPEAKER_07]: It's the only one that's nominated from 2024 rather than 2025 and that's rebel
01:18:03 --> 01:18:04 [SPEAKER_03]: I'll put that on my list.
01:18:05 --> 01:18:07 [SPEAKER_07]: I think, yeah, I think you'd like rebel rich.
01:18:07 --> 01:18:09 [SPEAKER_07]: Okay.
01:18:09 --> 01:18:16 [SPEAKER_07]: Although I quite liked Bridget Jones, Matt about the boy, this is the best second best in the series after the original and most people seem to agree.
01:18:17 --> 01:18:19 [SPEAKER_07]: We talked briefly before about mountain head.
01:18:20 --> 01:18:24 [SPEAKER_07]: The the gorge was not an intelligent movie but it was very, very pretty.
01:18:26 --> 01:18:29 [SPEAKER_07]: And Nana's was just, I don't know, I guess dumb fun.
01:18:29 --> 01:18:29 [SPEAKER_07]: I didn't.
01:18:30 --> 01:18:43 [SPEAKER_03]: We tried to watch Nunes because we've eaten there and I actually, back when I was a working photographer, photographed it for a story in an Italian magazine where Italian outlet.
01:18:44 --> 01:18:54 [SPEAKER_03]: So I went there a couple of times then I brought my wife there so I think it was out there like three different times and got to hang out with the known as in the kitchen and all that kind of stuff and met the owner and
01:18:57 --> 01:18:57 [SPEAKER_03]: the movie is.
01:18:57 --> 01:18:59 [SPEAKER_03]: It's not good.
01:19:00 --> 01:19:01 [UNKNOWN]: Fucking bad.
01:19:02 --> 01:19:05 [SPEAKER_03]: You all know I don't like to swear too much of the podcast.
01:19:05 --> 01:19:05 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry.
01:19:05 --> 01:19:11 [SPEAKER_03]: It was F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-
01:19:24 --> 01:19:35 [SPEAKER_06]: He's part of the Adam Sandler Play my cell my friends need money, so we're gonna make it other movie That's basically all that like Adam Sandler.
01:19:35 --> 01:19:38 [SPEAKER_06]: I wish I had a friend name Adam Sandler is like, you know I think all my friends could use a little more money.
01:19:39 --> 01:19:42 [SPEAKER_06]: Let's let's make a crazy big movie that I'm gonna phone it
01:19:43 --> 01:19:54 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I mean, it did feel lazy, but it was warmhearted, so yeah, I don't hate it, but I definitely gave it a low score and it was microwave artificial maple syrup.
01:19:54 --> 01:19:55 [SPEAKER_03]: That's the way I'm going to put it.
01:19:56 --> 01:20:07 [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm from and I live in Vermont now and I know the difference between whenever I we go out and I get maple syrup from somewhere and even the moment you start to pour it,
01:20:10 --> 01:20:14 [SPEAKER_03]: So with the moment we started watching this, it was just like, oh no, oh no, this is bad.
01:20:14 --> 01:20:18 [SPEAKER_03]: And my wife had wanted to watch it because we did have this connection to it.
01:20:18 --> 01:20:19 [SPEAKER_03]: So we know that would be fun.
01:20:19 --> 01:20:20 [SPEAKER_03]: It'll be like a heartwarming thing.
01:20:20 --> 01:20:21 [SPEAKER_03]: And we both turned it off.
01:20:21 --> 01:20:21 [SPEAKER_07]: I did.
01:20:21 --> 01:20:24 [SPEAKER_07]: I was curious about because I looked it up because I did.
01:20:24 --> 01:20:29 [SPEAKER_07]: I used to date someone from Staten Island, so you spend a lot of time there, but it wasn't open yet at that time.
01:20:29 --> 01:20:30 [SPEAKER_07]: Right.
01:20:30 --> 01:20:30 [SPEAKER_07]: Right.
01:20:31 --> 01:20:32 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
01:20:32 --> 01:20:37 [SPEAKER_03]: But the Academy of Television and we're not going to say we're just going to bypass the whole Staten Island conversation.
01:20:37 --> 01:20:39 [SPEAKER_03]: So moving on, moving on, moving on, moving on.
01:20:40 --> 01:20:41 [SPEAKER_03]: Is it a real bureau?
01:20:41 --> 01:20:52 [SPEAKER_07]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
01:20:53 --> 01:21:02 [SPEAKER_03]: We did go and not related to known as we did go out to Staten Island at a number of times when we got a car and we had our daughter and there was some good restaurants out there.
01:21:02 --> 01:21:04 [SPEAKER_03]: So we explored Staten Island a little bit.
01:21:04 --> 01:21:05 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, great Italian food, obviously.
01:21:05 --> 01:21:09 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, well, and they have great Sri Lankan food as well.
01:21:09 --> 01:21:10 [SPEAKER_03]: Is it Sri Lankan food?
01:21:10 --> 01:21:11 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, okay.
01:21:11 --> 01:21:15 [SPEAKER_03]: And then I did a great canoe trip along the Arthur Kill.
01:21:15 --> 01:21:19 [SPEAKER_03]: I think that what is that northern river thing that separates that I would like.
01:21:20 --> 01:21:24 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, there's some beautiful parts to step down, but culturally, yeah.
01:21:24 --> 01:21:31 [SPEAKER_03]: So you drive by and you see these weird mansions on these hills, like with a lot of money, put into the gate and the lions and all this stuff.
01:21:31 --> 01:21:32 [SPEAKER_03]: And you're like, oh, I know who lives there.
01:21:32 --> 01:21:34 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to just keep driving on.
01:21:34 --> 01:21:40 [SPEAKER_07]: That was, well, I mean, to my ex's parents lived in one of those neighborhoods, but they were orthodontists.
01:21:41 --> 01:21:41 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
01:21:42 --> 01:21:45 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, that's uh, but definitely their neighbors.
01:21:45 --> 01:21:45 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
01:21:45 --> 01:21:45 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
01:21:46 --> 01:21:46 [SPEAKER_07]: It was known.
01:21:48 --> 01:21:49 [SPEAKER_03]: It's known.
01:21:49 --> 01:21:50 [SPEAKER_03]: This is known.
01:21:52 --> 01:21:52 [SPEAKER_07]: But yeah.
01:21:52 --> 01:21:54 [SPEAKER_07]: It's the Academy of degrees with me.
01:21:54 --> 01:21:55 [SPEAKER_07]: Watch Rebel Ridge.
01:21:55 --> 01:21:59 [SPEAKER_07]: And this is Alicia here recommending an action movie.
01:22:00 --> 01:22:01 [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
01:22:01 --> 01:22:01 [SPEAKER_03]: So listen up.
01:22:01 --> 01:22:02 [SPEAKER_03]: Y'all.
01:22:03 --> 01:22:05 [SPEAKER_07]: Like if I like it, then I think it might be.
01:22:06 --> 01:22:07 [SPEAKER_07]: have a wide appeal.
01:22:08 --> 01:22:16 [SPEAKER_07]: On the animation side of thing, the big winner was Arcane, season two, which won both of its nominations both overall animation and sound editing.
01:22:17 --> 01:22:20 [SPEAKER_02]: Shout out to radioactive ramblers, right?
01:22:20 --> 01:22:22 [SPEAKER_02]: Cause they didn't know how they did it, yep.
01:22:23 --> 01:22:24 [SPEAKER_07]: Yep, yep.
01:22:24 --> 01:22:28 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, they also covered at invincible season three, which did not win Lazarus, did not win.
01:22:30 --> 01:22:38 [SPEAKER_07]: Honestly, for overall award, I haven't watched season two of our canes, this is unfair of me to say, but common side effects should have won.
01:22:40 --> 01:22:40 [SPEAKER_03]: Not even her.
01:22:42 --> 01:22:52 [SPEAKER_07]: I did not love this season of Love Death and Robots, but when it came to the individual outstanding achievement awards, Arcane and Love Death and Robots were the two big winners there.
01:22:55 --> 01:22:59 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm still sure that what was that one on Netflix?
01:22:59 --> 01:23:03 [SPEAKER_03]: I got canceled after the first season with the one with the wild planet.
01:23:04 --> 01:23:05 [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, scavenger's rain.
01:23:05 --> 01:23:07 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm still sore about that.
01:23:07 --> 01:23:09 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm still nursing my bruise.
01:23:10 --> 01:23:11 [SPEAKER_03]: That should have been renewed.
01:23:11 --> 01:23:12 [SPEAKER_03]: I can't believe it.
01:23:13 --> 01:23:13 [SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, carry on.
01:23:14 --> 01:23:18 [SPEAKER_07]: But I know you're a fan of the Best Docu series winner, 100 foot wave.
01:23:18 --> 01:23:20 [SPEAKER_03]: Big fan, whole family's a big fan.
01:23:21 --> 01:23:31 [SPEAKER_03]: We were on our Canadian road trip and my daughter and wife went down to use the pool at hotel that we stayed at for the last couple nights before we came home.
01:23:33 --> 01:23:40 [SPEAKER_03]: So as I go, I'll watch a quick episode of 100-foot wave because I was getting near the end of the season 4.
01:23:41 --> 01:23:43 [SPEAKER_03]: And they came back from the pool.
01:23:44 --> 01:23:47 [SPEAKER_03]: And my daughter was instantly transfixed.
01:23:47 --> 01:23:51 [SPEAKER_03]: She'll, I'll be watching like a Star Trek episode or something else.
01:23:51 --> 01:23:53 [SPEAKER_03]: She'll come in and she'll get transfixed for a moment.
01:23:53 --> 01:23:56 [SPEAKER_03]: And then she's like, oh, and then she'll like leave.
01:23:56 --> 01:24:01 [SPEAKER_03]: She got locked in on 100 foot wave as a family.
01:24:01 --> 01:24:03 [SPEAKER_03]: We finished season four.
01:24:03 --> 01:24:08 [SPEAKER_03]: And then when we got home for our Sunday night, we have two nights where we do like,
01:24:09 --> 01:24:21 [SPEAKER_03]: family dinner in front of the television Friday night pizza and Sunday night snacky dinner right where my wife just pulls together sort of all the leftovers and that kind of thing.
01:24:22 --> 01:24:26 [SPEAKER_03]: And so we burned through all of season one, two, and three.
01:24:26 --> 01:24:28 [SPEAKER_03]: And my daughter was in trance.
01:24:28 --> 01:24:31 [SPEAKER_03]: This is a Daniel old who's a K-pop demon hunter fan, right?
01:24:31 --> 01:24:34 [SPEAKER_03]: And she was locked in on Hunter for a wave.
01:24:34 --> 01:24:35 [SPEAKER_03]: She loved the music.
01:24:35 --> 01:24:36 [SPEAKER_03]: She loved the visuals.
01:24:36 --> 01:24:42 [SPEAKER_03]: She was compelled by the actors and the story and the competition.
01:24:42 --> 01:24:45 [SPEAKER_03]: There's a great episode in season four.
01:24:45 --> 01:24:46 [SPEAKER_03]: Is it season four?
01:24:47 --> 01:24:51 [SPEAKER_03]: The year four I got on my brain is such a soup of seasons and shows and things.
01:24:52 --> 01:25:05 [SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, the most recent episode where the episode centers on this big competition that happens in Hawaii, one of the biggest surf competition things, and the guy who wins it, it's such a compelling story.
01:25:06 --> 01:25:11 [SPEAKER_03]: She'd love that episode, so I can't recommend the show highly enough.
01:25:12 --> 01:25:15 [SPEAKER_07]: Well, it won, yeah, one Dr. series and it won cinematography.
01:25:15 --> 01:25:20 [SPEAKER_07]: It didn't make it the sound, uh, okay, words, but that's, yeah, it goes to show.
01:25:20 --> 01:25:21 [SPEAKER_07]: There's a lot of love show.
01:25:22 --> 01:25:23 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, beautiful show.
01:25:23 --> 01:25:28 [SPEAKER_03]: People that I can't understand their way of life, their way of thinking, why would you do this?
01:25:28 --> 01:25:31 [SPEAKER_03]: This is not a job, but yet they treat it like a job.
01:25:31 --> 01:25:33 [SPEAKER_03]: They're professional athletes, like surfing, professional athletes.
01:25:34 --> 01:25:34 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
01:25:34 --> 01:25:35 [SPEAKER_03]: It's fascinating.
01:25:35 --> 01:25:37 [SPEAKER_03]: It's it's utterly fascinating.
01:25:38 --> 01:25:38 [SPEAKER_07]: cool.
01:25:40 --> 01:25:45 [SPEAKER_07]: We talked previously a bit about how the talk show series is the categories are shrinking.
01:25:45 --> 01:25:46 [SPEAKER_07]: There's only three nominees this year.
01:25:46 --> 01:25:50 [SPEAKER_07]: Daily show Kimmel live and the late show was Stephen Colbert.
01:25:51 --> 01:25:55 [SPEAKER_07]: I feel like after what happened with Stephen Colbert that's his delusus this year.
01:25:56 --> 01:26:04 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, right, right, they're going to, yeah, kind of the opposite of jury nullification that this is like voting affirmation, right?
01:26:04 --> 01:26:05 [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
01:26:05 --> 01:26:09 [SPEAKER_03]: We're going to vote to send a signal, which I think is fair, because he's a hardworking son of a bitch.
01:26:10 --> 01:26:12 [SPEAKER_06]: It's also the most watched talk show.
01:26:12 --> 01:26:13 [SPEAKER_06]: Like, is it?
01:26:14 --> 01:26:14 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
01:26:14 --> 01:26:15 [SPEAKER_06]: Wow.
01:26:15 --> 01:26:16 [SPEAKER_06]: He owns the market.
01:26:16 --> 01:26:17 [SPEAKER_06]: Wow.
01:26:17 --> 01:26:18 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, they're canceling it.
01:26:18 --> 01:26:20 [SPEAKER_06]: So, yeah, take from that what you will.
01:26:20 --> 01:26:21 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
01:26:21 --> 01:26:21 [SPEAKER_06]: I mean,
01:26:26 --> 01:26:30 [SPEAKER_06]: argument for his cancellation, the market's not very big that he's quarter.
01:26:30 --> 01:26:31 [SPEAKER_06]: Right, right, right.
01:26:31 --> 01:26:34 [SPEAKER_07]: Well, see, yeah, there's obviously there's not many being submitted.
01:26:34 --> 01:26:36 [SPEAKER_07]: And that's why there's so few kind of so few nominees.
01:26:37 --> 01:26:39 [SPEAKER_03]: Right, because that whole genre has gone it.
01:26:39 --> 01:26:41 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it was generational.
01:26:41 --> 01:26:42 [SPEAKER_03]: It was linear time.
01:26:42 --> 01:26:44 [SPEAKER_03]: He appointment TV.
01:26:44 --> 01:26:44 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:26:44 --> 01:26:45 [SPEAKER_07]: Mm-hmm.
01:26:45 --> 01:26:50 [SPEAKER_06]: If they hadn't given Conan show back to Jay Leno, the whole industry would have been
01:26:52 --> 01:27:08 [SPEAKER_07]: Well, Colbert did already win a directing award and daily show ones writing and some other side related awards and scripted variety series is also down to only two last week tonight and Saturday night live and Saturday night live did get a bunch of
01:27:10 --> 01:27:16 [SPEAKER_07]: various various awards for the anniversary special, especially, and various episodes.
01:27:16 --> 01:27:19 [SPEAKER_07]: So sorry, Nightlife did well in the creative Emmys.
01:27:20 --> 01:27:22 [SPEAKER_03]: Do we have this as a guest for the 50 year, right?
01:27:22 --> 01:27:24 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, this year has gone by.
01:27:24 --> 01:27:25 [SPEAKER_06]: Anyway, carry on.
01:27:25 --> 01:27:25 [SPEAKER_06]: They did not.
01:27:25 --> 01:27:26 [SPEAKER_06]: They had a really good year.
01:27:26 --> 01:27:31 [SPEAKER_06]: A lot of great content on SNL and Lauren Michael just clean house.
01:27:31 --> 01:27:34 [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know if you all saw the news in the last week, but he's like cleaning house right now on the guest.
01:27:35 --> 01:27:35 [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, really?
01:27:36 --> 01:27:36 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
01:27:36 --> 01:27:41 [SPEAKER_07]: I saw a lot of people were leaving, but I didn't realize that they were being pushed out rather than... Oh, yeah.
01:27:41 --> 01:27:42 [SPEAKER_06]: Some of them were getting pushed out.
01:27:42 --> 01:27:43 [SPEAKER_06]: Interesting.
01:27:44 --> 01:27:46 [SPEAKER_03]: And we, uh, hard reset, huh?
01:27:47 --> 01:27:52 [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know why, like, they were, they were actually like climbing the ratings again.
01:27:52 --> 01:27:53 [SPEAKER_03]: Huh.
01:27:53 --> 01:27:54 [SPEAKER_03]: Interesting.
01:27:55 --> 01:27:57 [SPEAKER_03]: I've, I've always had a problem though, post.
01:28:00 --> 01:28:07 [SPEAKER_03]: For me, it was about the cast, it was as much the thing as it was the skits.
01:28:07 --> 01:28:15 [SPEAKER_03]: And so when you had a class of, right, when you had this body, and they moved through together for a number of years, and then you brought in new cast.
01:28:16 --> 01:28:21 [SPEAKER_03]: But then recently, it's this one on one, every year they're bringing on new people and other, every year, other people are leaving.
01:28:21 --> 01:28:24 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I think they're just kind of lost the plot.
01:28:24 --> 01:28:24 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:28:26 --> 01:28:46 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, part of it was seeing a Bill Murray or Chevy Chase or a Gilder Radner or Garrett Morris playing a range of characters as opposed to this one actor does this one thing and then we just use that it doesn't work for me it's it's more the broad hey what can this actor do across multiple.
01:28:47 --> 01:28:56 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, but last time there was really like a class was the early 2000s where you had Bill Hader, Kristen Wigg, Tina Fey, what's your name?
01:28:56 --> 01:28:57 [SPEAKER_06]: Doesn't matter.
01:28:58 --> 01:28:59 [SPEAKER_06]: You got my point.
01:28:59 --> 01:28:59 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
01:29:00 --> 01:29:06 [SPEAKER_06]: You know, that whole, that whole crew of people, Fred Armison, like all these people, like I thought.
01:29:06 --> 01:29:07 [SPEAKER_03]: And all of them are right class.
01:29:07 --> 01:29:08 [SPEAKER_06]: Done great jobs after you.
01:29:08 --> 01:29:08 [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
01:29:08 --> 01:29:10 [SPEAKER_03]: That really built a career.
01:29:10 --> 01:29:10 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:29:10 --> 01:29:10 [SPEAKER_03]: Anyway.
01:29:11 --> 01:29:11 [SPEAKER_03]: All right.
01:29:13 --> 01:29:15 [SPEAKER_07]: Um, the other big reality thing.
01:29:15 --> 01:29:16 [SPEAKER_07]: Well, I guess two things.
01:29:16 --> 01:29:24 [SPEAKER_07]: One is, uh, Beyonce and Jay-Z are competing each other, competing against each other for quite a special life for the Ransivo.
01:29:25 --> 01:29:26 [SPEAKER_07]: Um, and also Kendrick, one some stuff.
01:29:26 --> 01:29:31 [SPEAKER_07]: Uh, but then, um, the reality where our focus is.
01:29:31 --> 01:29:35 [SPEAKER_04]: I just want to say, Beyonce has been winning too many awards lately.
01:29:41 --> 01:29:44 [SPEAKER_06]: I did not think she deserved her Grammy.
01:29:44 --> 01:29:46 [SPEAKER_06]: I did not think she deserved her Grammy.
01:29:46 --> 01:29:47 [SPEAKER_07]: I honestly don't have an opinion.
01:29:47 --> 01:29:49 [SPEAKER_07]: I don't know who she was up against.
01:29:49 --> 01:29:55 [SPEAKER_06]: And people are starting to make jokes in the words shows about how I definitely was not threatened to give this to Beyonce.
01:29:56 --> 01:30:00 [SPEAKER_06]: I was like, oh, I feel like that's more than a joke.
01:30:00 --> 01:30:01 [SPEAKER_06]: But anyway.
01:30:02 --> 01:30:06 [SPEAKER_07]: Well, isn't it also, wasn't that in response to what's his face?
01:30:07 --> 01:30:09 [SPEAKER_07]: Jumping up and telling Taylor Swift that
01:30:10 --> 01:30:11 [SPEAKER_06]: That was another weird one.
01:30:12 --> 01:30:14 [SPEAKER_06]: Like there is a weird thing around Beyonce.
01:30:14 --> 01:30:15 [SPEAKER_06]: I don't want this to go away, not.
01:30:16 --> 01:30:17 [SPEAKER_07]: People just really like her.
01:30:19 --> 01:30:20 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I have nothing again.
01:30:20 --> 01:30:22 [SPEAKER_07]: Start just so the bay high notes.
01:30:22 --> 01:30:24 [SPEAKER_03]: But it's making me too.
01:30:25 --> 01:30:26 [SPEAKER_03]: Insulate the podcast a little earlier.
01:30:26 --> 01:30:29 [SPEAKER_03]: You should do some firewall because John just thought it's a trouble.
01:30:29 --> 01:30:29 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:30:31 --> 01:30:51 [SPEAKER_07]: but switching to reality host, that's actually a hot category this year I suppose because RuPaul has become the most nominated reality host, has ten Noms, eight wins for drag race, drag race also has ten Noms over all this year, but the competition for this are the hosts for the Trader Shark Tank Top Chef and Survivor and
01:30:53 --> 01:30:56 [SPEAKER_07]: the traders are becoming a massive hit.
01:30:57 --> 01:31:06 [SPEAKER_07]: They got a surprise win last year and it feels like this could be a repeat to their now expanding into various spin-offs.
01:31:06 --> 01:31:11 [SPEAKER_07]: They're also up for best reality competition with amazing race drag race survivor and top chef.
01:31:11 --> 01:31:18 [SPEAKER_07]: And since I asked in the last episode, you know, I had the idea of something like, I know it comes from this Dutch show
01:31:21 --> 01:31:35 [SPEAKER_07]: Doug Rodin and said, listening to the Emmys episode to answer Alicia's question, yes, the traders is almost identical to the party game, Mafia, Sushware Wolf, but the players are reality stars from various other shows, from Survivor to Real Housewives.
01:31:36 --> 01:31:40 [SPEAKER_07]: Set in a Scottish castle with Alan coming as a very campy host.
01:31:40 --> 01:31:43 [SPEAKER_07]: I enjoyed a lot, but it's definitely a game of deceit and backstabbing.
01:31:44 --> 01:31:48 [SPEAKER_07]: Much more explicitly than Survivor or Break Brother, where it's technically possible to play honestly,
01:31:51 --> 01:31:53 [SPEAKER_07]: So I can see why people are into this.
01:31:53 --> 01:31:56 [SPEAKER_07]: Are you guys ever tempted to try the traders?
01:31:57 --> 01:32:01 [SPEAKER_03]: Not my show, kind of show, I guess.
01:32:01 --> 01:32:01 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
01:32:01 --> 01:32:03 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't really watch a lot of that.
01:32:05 --> 01:32:09 [SPEAKER_03]: My wife used to love amazing race.
01:32:09 --> 01:32:13 [SPEAKER_03]: And then a couple times when, as a family, we've tried to sort of reboot it.
01:32:13 --> 01:32:15 [SPEAKER_03]: It makes me way too anxious.
01:32:15 --> 01:32:24 [SPEAKER_03]: I want to think that tries me nuts is sometimes the culturally inappropriateness of the contestants and other work and other,
01:32:25 --> 01:32:28 [SPEAKER_03]: In other lands and other cultures, it drives me crazy.
01:32:28 --> 01:32:29 [SPEAKER_03]: I can't handle the show.
01:32:29 --> 01:32:38 [SPEAKER_03]: Now, floor is lava as a show, a kind of show like in that bucket that we would watch, but not not either of these, these don't really appeal to us.
01:32:39 --> 01:32:43 [SPEAKER_07]: I guess it also rewards people who watched the other shows that the people come from.
01:32:44 --> 01:32:45 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, kind of a meta.
01:32:46 --> 01:32:47 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
01:32:48 --> 01:32:49 [SPEAKER_07]: I don't know.
01:32:49 --> 01:32:52 [SPEAKER_07]: Is there anything else that you guys wanted to shout out or final predictions?
01:32:54 --> 01:32:57 [SPEAKER_06]: I think I like the SFL documentary.
01:32:57 --> 01:33:01 [SPEAKER_06]: I see that in now, sending directing for documentary non-fiction.
01:33:01 --> 01:33:02 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, that's just one.
01:33:03 --> 01:33:05 [SPEAKER_07]: Deaf President now, P.V.
01:33:05 --> 01:33:07 [SPEAKER_07]: as himself actually, I think P.V.
01:33:07 --> 01:33:08 [SPEAKER_07]: as himself won.
01:33:09 --> 01:33:09 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, did it.
01:33:09 --> 01:33:10 [SPEAKER_02]: I should have.
01:33:10 --> 01:33:10 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:33:10 --> 01:33:12 [SPEAKER_07]: Although, I really love to the other two.
01:33:12 --> 01:33:14 [SPEAKER_07]: No, I haven't watched it yet.
01:33:14 --> 01:33:15 [SPEAKER_07]: I want to watch it here.
01:33:15 --> 01:33:15 [SPEAKER_07]: Good things.
01:33:15 --> 01:33:20 [SPEAKER_07]: But I really love to Superman, the Christopher Reeve story, and Will and Harper were both great.
01:33:20 --> 01:33:26 [SPEAKER_07]: And they were both nominated for that category as well, and exceptional merit and documentary film and king.
01:33:26 --> 01:33:27 [SPEAKER_07]: I wanted to shout out.
01:33:27 --> 01:33:29 [SPEAKER_07]: I haven't seen I am silly and beyond the ad I need to.
01:33:31 --> 01:33:34 [SPEAKER_07]: Patrice the movie I have watched on Hulu.
01:33:34 --> 01:33:51 [SPEAKER_07]: It's about that's the one that won and it's about a woman who well, it's a couple, a disabled couple who they can't get married because the loser disability benefits and it's just benefits from the fact that Patrice herself is a very charming subject.
01:33:51 --> 01:34:11 [SPEAKER_07]: um she makes a great appeal for the case and she's also very creative in the way that it's presented and everything but my favorite was the remarkable life of Evelyn which was uh Bauticai who lived in was part of a world of warcraft community and he died of us uh of a muscular disease and his family um we'll go.
01:34:12 --> 01:34:19 [SPEAKER_07]: they found out afterwards that he had this whole rich life and all these friends online who kind of recreated it for them and they turned it into this documentary.
01:34:19 --> 01:34:23 [SPEAKER_07]: So I recommend the remarkable life of being with him.
01:34:24 --> 01:34:27 [SPEAKER_07]: Red Zippy had some predictions, should we listen to her predictions?
01:34:28 --> 01:34:28 [SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
01:34:28 --> 01:34:32 [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, Laura Hounds, this is Red Zippy aka Lisa,
01:34:39 --> 01:34:45 [SPEAKER_00]: There's not too many close races overall in the drama series.
01:34:46 --> 01:34:51 [SPEAKER_00]: Severance is predicted to win, which would not make me unhappy.
01:34:51 --> 01:34:55 [SPEAKER_00]: But a lot of people, including myself, are rooting for the pit.
01:34:56 --> 01:34:58 [SPEAKER_00]: that that was an excellent versus season.
01:34:58 --> 01:35:04 [SPEAKER_00]: But of course, who should win is Andor, but we're just never going to get that wrong.
01:35:04 --> 01:35:09 [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I see severance going pretty strong here in the drama.
01:35:10 --> 01:35:17 [SPEAKER_00]: I wish Britt Lauer could win for best actress in severance, but it's probably going to go to
01:35:18 --> 01:35:21 [SPEAKER_00]: in matte lock, which I don't watch.
01:35:21 --> 01:35:22 [SPEAKER_00]: So I have nothing to say.
01:35:22 --> 01:35:33 [SPEAKER_00]: I will be very happy for Noah Wiley to win in outstanding lead actor in our drama series for the pit hands down should have gotten an Emmy for ER.
01:35:35 --> 01:35:37 [SPEAKER_00]: So, this is thrilling for me, I'll be very happy.
01:35:37 --> 01:35:42 [SPEAKER_00]: Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Drama Series is very interesting.
01:35:42 --> 01:35:52 [SPEAKER_00]: That one is pretty tight between Walton Goggins, of course, for White Lotus, and then Tremel Tillman for Severance, who I think should win, because he's awesome.
01:35:53 --> 01:35:54 [SPEAKER_00]: It'll probably be Walter Goggins.
01:35:54 --> 01:35:55 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
01:35:56 --> 01:36:02 [SPEAKER_03]: Was she listening to our cast ahead of time or did we listen to her?
01:36:03 --> 01:36:08 [SPEAKER_00]: I think Patrick Schwarzenegger should have been nominated here for his role in White Lotus.
01:36:08 --> 01:36:11 [SPEAKER_00]: He was the only one we only actor in the cast that didn't.
01:36:12 --> 01:36:19 [SPEAKER_00]: Then I will be very happy when Carrie Cune wins for White Lotus in supporting actress in a drama series.
01:36:20 --> 01:36:25 [SPEAKER_00]: she shouldn't be getting her first Emmy for this role, but she should be getting a lot of Emmys.
01:36:25 --> 01:36:26 [SPEAKER_00]: So I will be happy.
01:36:26 --> 01:36:33 [SPEAKER_00]: I won't be upset if Parker Posey wins this for White Lotus, but anyway.
01:36:33 --> 01:36:42 [SPEAKER_00]: And then for writing for drama, it's probably going to be severance for Cold Harbor, of course, was there finale.
01:36:43 --> 01:36:44 [SPEAKER_00]: But I, you know, again,
01:36:45 --> 01:36:57 [SPEAKER_00]: And or should win and or should win directing for drama series again is going to go to severance should go to and or But I won't be unhappy with severance
01:36:58 --> 01:37:01 [SPEAKER_00]: Moving on to comedy, I don't have a lot to say here.
01:37:02 --> 01:37:06 [SPEAKER_00]: My emotional favorite is the Romcom.
01:37:06 --> 01:37:14 [SPEAKER_00]: Nobody wants this with Adam Brody and Christian Bell, but it won't win anything, but I'm glad it was nominated.
01:37:15 --> 01:37:16 [SPEAKER_00]: The rest, I'm not really big fans of.
01:37:16 --> 01:37:25 [SPEAKER_00]: The big winner, I think, cross the board is gonna be the studio, but there is just something about me and Seth Rogan that just don't get along.
01:37:25 --> 01:37:26 [SPEAKER_00]: And I find him so,
01:37:28 --> 01:37:31 [SPEAKER_00]: of noxious and incency.
01:37:31 --> 01:37:32 [SPEAKER_00]: You're with me at least.
01:37:33 --> 01:37:34 [SPEAKER_00]: Suck up.
01:37:34 --> 01:37:37 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not the word, but I'm going to use it.
01:37:39 --> 01:37:42 [SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, that's, that's probably going to win.
01:37:42 --> 01:37:44 [SPEAKER_00]: So, a lot of studio wins there.
01:37:46 --> 01:37:48 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm surging smart will win for hacks again.
01:37:48 --> 01:37:58 [SPEAKER_00]: Probably the only one I have my eye on in comedy is going to be on a standing supporting actor, hoping for Harrison Ford, but it could be this studio again here.
01:37:59 --> 01:38:02 [SPEAKER_00]: All right, moving on to limited series, I'll be quick.
01:38:02 --> 01:38:07 [SPEAKER_00]: This is all 100% adolescents as it should be.
01:38:07 --> 01:38:07 [SPEAKER_00]: Penguin.
01:38:09 --> 01:38:15 [SPEAKER_00]: And I was also, won't be upset if the penguin wins anything, but I will be,
01:38:16 --> 01:38:29 [SPEAKER_00]: happy to see Kristen Millioti, for example, went for the penguin, that'll be great, but Colin Farron for the penguin, but everything else is going to be adolescence and has to that.
01:38:30 --> 01:38:36 [SPEAKER_00]: So really, that kind of takes us to like reality TV shows, which I think is just going to be the traders.
01:38:36 --> 01:38:40 [SPEAKER_00]: It's the new kid on the block, the new flavor.
01:38:40 --> 01:38:42 [SPEAKER_00]: I think in the second or third year,
01:38:43 --> 01:38:44 [SPEAKER_00]: So that should win.
01:38:44 --> 01:38:55 [SPEAKER_00]: I definitely see for outstanding talk series, the lay show is Stephen Colbert coming in because everyone in the industry is voting for him since CBS is decided to cancel the show.
01:38:56 --> 01:39:00 [SPEAKER_00]: And then scripted series, it's, again, both talk series and scripted variety series.
01:39:01 --> 01:39:03 [SPEAKER_00]: There's hardly any nominees left.
01:39:03 --> 01:39:07 [SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of a dying breed in traditional linear television.
01:39:08 --> 01:39:12 [SPEAKER_00]: um, it should go to uh, last week tonight with John Oliver.
01:39:13 --> 01:39:17 [SPEAKER_00]: So um, I generally find the Emmys pretty boring.
01:39:18 --> 01:39:27 [SPEAKER_00]: They very much stick to the script and I usually watch it of course because I love award shows and seeing everybody dressed up and I'm a big fan of a lot of the shows.
01:39:28 --> 01:39:35 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, but um, you know, uh, I look for upsets, you know, like Brit Lauer for several and so
01:39:37 --> 01:39:49 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, for seven, so also, you know, so I kind of root for upsets, but there's like I said some good ones that I really will be glad they're finally getting an Emmy and that's Noah Wiley and Carrie Cune and things like that.
01:39:49 --> 01:39:52 [SPEAKER_00]: So that's my two cents signing off.
01:39:53 --> 01:39:58 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, so I did not listen to her voice mail before the before the.
01:39:59 --> 01:40:01 [SPEAKER_03]: We are in sync with our community.
01:40:02 --> 01:40:02 [SPEAKER_06]: That's right.
01:40:02 --> 01:40:02 [SPEAKER_06]: That's right.
01:40:03 --> 01:40:05 [SPEAKER_06]: It just means that all of our takes are absolutely correct.
01:40:08 --> 01:40:16 [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, but I think that it does reflect as she was saying that there is just a sort of the Emmys do follow a certain scripts, but I do think there are more up in the air this year.
01:40:16 --> 01:40:26 [SPEAKER_07]: I know a lot of people, everyone seems to think Kathy Bates is going to win just because she's Kathy Bates, but if it everyone says, but I don't watch that show.
01:40:26 --> 01:40:27 [SPEAKER_06]: You're so right.
01:40:28 --> 01:40:29 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, that is a problem.
01:40:30 --> 01:40:36 [SPEAKER_07]: I do, and maybe people vote for this is why the Oscars this year say you have to watch the movies before you vote for the categories.
01:40:37 --> 01:40:51 [SPEAKER_07]: But I do think, honestly, I'm predicting Brit Lauer personally, and I do think also, for example, usually in the limited or anthology category, one show completely runs away with it, and adolescents would be that show this year.
01:40:52 --> 01:40:52 [SPEAKER_07]: But we've
01:40:55 --> 01:41:02 [SPEAKER_07]: Penguins won a bunch of Oscars, and it could, I doubt it's going to take the top category, but it could take actor and or actress.
01:41:03 --> 01:41:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
01:41:05 --> 01:41:05 [SPEAKER_07]: I think there's more.
01:41:05 --> 01:41:07 [SPEAKER_07]: All right.
01:41:08 --> 01:41:17 [SPEAKER_07]: Well, we're going to part ways, and I'm going to do the outro, but before we do, did you have any final thoughts, hopes, predictions for the Emmys this weekend?
01:41:18 --> 01:41:21 [SPEAKER_06]: I look forward to reading the list of winners the next day.
01:41:25 --> 01:41:25 [SPEAKER_03]: same.
01:41:25 --> 01:41:26 [SPEAKER_03]: I hope they have a good show.
01:41:27 --> 01:41:30 [SPEAKER_03]: I hope they're able to, um, I'll let you know how Nate Bargazzi is.
01:41:30 --> 01:41:31 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:41:31 --> 01:41:31 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:41:31 --> 01:41:32 [SPEAKER_03]: I hope they're very good.
01:41:32 --> 01:41:34 [SPEAKER_06]: Actually, I'll see the TikTok highlights.
01:41:35 --> 01:41:36 [SPEAKER_06]: Very nice of it is hosting.
01:41:36 --> 01:41:37 [SPEAKER_06]: That's what that's what will happen.
01:41:39 --> 01:41:39 [SPEAKER_03]: Cool.
01:41:39 --> 01:41:39 [SPEAKER_03]: Cool.
01:41:40 --> 01:41:41 [SPEAKER_03]: Thanks Alicia for putting all this together.
01:41:42 --> 01:41:42 [SPEAKER_03]: This is good.
01:41:42 --> 01:41:44 [SPEAKER_03]: It was fun just to hang out with you guys to talk.
01:41:44 --> 01:41:45 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, a TV.
01:41:46 --> 01:41:47 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and we got to talk about your hard work.
01:41:48 --> 01:41:52 [SPEAKER_07]: We got to talk about a lot of shows that we normally don't have time to talk about, so yeah.
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