Jean and Elysia relive the runaway-hit first season of Peacemaker (and the movie it was spun off from) to prep for season 2, which begins tonight.
After a spoiler-free intro setting up what the show is and who might enjoy it, they talk through all the 11th Street Kids season 1 shenanigans with a clip-show recap that covers everything you'll want to remember going into season 2.
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00:17 --> 00:30 [SPEAKER_10]: I hope everyone's feeling fucking peaceful because the lower homes network kids are here to recap peacemakers season one quest to take out every man woman in child and butterfly standing in the way of peace.
00:31 --> 00:36 [SPEAKER_10]: Hi, I'm Alicia and I sign up for the eagerly sitting duty next time peacemaker gets sent to jail.
00:37 --> 00:38 [SPEAKER_10]: You can keep the rest of that deal.
00:39 --> 00:40 [SPEAKER_14]: And I'm John.
00:40 --> 00:43 [SPEAKER_14]: I kind of, I don't know how to follow up that open.
00:43 --> 00:47 [SPEAKER_14]: But I'm going to say, yeah, you're doing.
00:48 --> 00:55 [SPEAKER_14]: I might be peacemakers worse friend than me and co-host of the DC Universe, a comic versus podcast by the Law Hounds.
00:55 --> 01:01 [SPEAKER_14]: And we're here today to recap everything you need to know about peacemaker going into season number two.
01:02 --> 01:10 [SPEAKER_10]: So we will be joined for the weekly episode breakdowns by Aaron from Radioactive Rambling and I just want to shout out thank you to Aaron who made the cover.
01:10 --> 01:12 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, yeah.
01:12 --> 01:13 [SPEAKER_10]: Give us three good options.
01:13 --> 01:14 [SPEAKER_10]: I'm sad we can't use them all.
01:15 --> 01:16 [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, yeah, so dope.
01:17 --> 01:18 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, he's great at that.
01:19 --> 01:21 [SPEAKER_10]: We're going to be doing today.
01:21 --> 01:31 [SPEAKER_10]: So we're going to gear the very opening of this episode toward people who have not yet perhaps watched peacemaker and so we're going to keep our hot takes spoiler free.
01:31 --> 01:40 [SPEAKER_10]: It's basically going to be the pitch like why should you watch peacemaker and we'll throw in some production notes about how the two seasons tie together and everything else.
01:41 --> 01:44 [SPEAKER_10]: And then after a spoiler break, we'll have all spoilers on the table.
01:44 --> 01:55 [SPEAKER_10]: That means all DC movies, TV comics, and obviously a recap of season one, everything you need to remember for season two.
01:56 --> 02:04 [SPEAKER_10]: So to set up the tagline for season one, a man fights for peace at any cost, no matter how many people he has to kill to get it.
02:06 --> 02:09 [SPEAKER_10]: Is your season one watch experience?
02:09 --> 02:11 [SPEAKER_10]: Were you watching weekly live?
02:11 --> 02:12 [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, I watched it weekly.
02:13 --> 02:33 [SPEAKER_14]: And let me just say, as the noted James gun detractor, I went into this fully expected to be, you know, either a, past, not for me, I don't like it, or b, like, oh, this is fine.
02:34 --> 02:40 [SPEAKER_14]: This was so much more enjoyable than I thought that I would have viewing.
02:41 --> 02:43 [SPEAKER_14]: I really thought this was a great show.
02:45 --> 02:45 [SPEAKER_14]: It was funny.
02:47 --> 02:52 [SPEAKER_14]: But John Cena was the actor that plays piecemaker.
02:52 --> 03:02 [SPEAKER_14]: He was just great and throughout the entire series from episode one through the finale, the season finale.
03:02 --> 03:10 [SPEAKER_14]: And that showed me that gun can do things with different archetypes of character.
03:11 --> 03:14 [SPEAKER_14]: The comedy really took me by surprise.
03:15 --> 03:22 [SPEAKER_14]: I didn't go into the show expecting to laugh out loud on several occasions.
03:23 --> 03:26 [SPEAKER_14]: each episode probably maybe do that.
03:28 --> 03:30 [SPEAKER_14]: And this is a character that I don't like.
03:31 --> 03:32 [SPEAKER_14]: I don't like peacemaker.
03:32 --> 03:38 [SPEAKER_14]: As a person, as a hero, as a government tool, as a friend, as a brother, as a whatever.
03:38 --> 03:40 [SPEAKER_14]: I don't like him.
03:40 --> 03:41 [SPEAKER_14]: I don't like Chris.
03:42 --> 03:44 [SPEAKER_14]: You know, I would never be friends and one like that.
03:44 --> 03:46 [SPEAKER_14]: I would never give them the time of day.
03:47 --> 03:49 [SPEAKER_14]: But watching him,
03:50 --> 03:55 [SPEAKER_14]: interact with the group that he's interacting with was really a lot of fun.
03:57 --> 04:00 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, and who were your favorite characters in season one?
04:01 --> 04:12 [SPEAKER_14]: Um, wow, favorite characters, vigilante, Eglie, and what's her name?
04:12 --> 04:13 [SPEAKER_14]: Adabayo?
04:13 --> 04:13 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
04:14 --> 04:16 [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, those, those three, those three.
04:17 --> 04:19 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, I'll go with that too.
04:20 --> 04:23 [SPEAKER_10]: I mean, obviously, every animal is going to be my favorite.
04:24 --> 04:30 [SPEAKER_10]: Vigilante is just a special type of psycho that can be fun to talk about.
04:32 --> 04:34 [SPEAKER_14]: You said it right, a special type of psycho, yes.
04:35 --> 04:37 [SPEAKER_10]: And out of bias, the heart of the show, obviously, with the group.
04:40 --> 04:42 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, I watched it live.
04:44 --> 04:47 [SPEAKER_10]: I expected, I mean, I was curious.
04:47 --> 04:52 [SPEAKER_10]: I loved, I am a big James gun fan and I loved the suicide squad.
04:52 --> 04:57 [SPEAKER_10]: But you know, I was when he said that was the show he was making the spin off of the suicide squad.
04:57 --> 04:59 [SPEAKER_10]: I was like, um,
05:00 --> 05:20 [SPEAKER_10]: I don't know if that's the character that I'm most interested in seeing but then of course he showed me why and yeah I get it and this it was I mean I thought of John Cena's another wrestler turned actor and piecemaker really showed me the because he does a lot of silly comedies too and this is a silly comedy but also
05:21 --> 05:39 [SPEAKER_10]: It's a silly comedy that also includes like really emotionally stirring moments like him playing the piano and crying over a life of tragedy like there's a lot of surprising depth to this character and thus the show overall and also every character in the show.
05:42 --> 05:46 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, they got, they were unique.
05:46 --> 05:50 [SPEAKER_10]: And most of them dug below the surface.
05:50 --> 05:57 [SPEAKER_10]: And I think the ones that didn't dig so much below the surface, like let's say, due to master, I think we're going to get more of that this season.
05:57 --> 05:58 [SPEAKER_10]: So I'm very excited.
06:00 --> 06:09 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, I said before that this is my favorite thing in the DC EU and like I was making other friends watch it with me and was really into it.
06:11 --> 06:15 [SPEAKER_10]: But yeah, I just I like the complex characters of relatable humanity.
06:18 --> 06:23 [SPEAKER_10]: This sometimes cringe-frequently offensive humor is sometimes cringe.
06:23 --> 06:25 [SPEAKER_10]: I mean, yeah, it's crazy.
06:25 --> 06:25 [SPEAKER_10]: Sometimes.
06:26 --> 06:35 [SPEAKER_10]: Well, I actually, John just sent me a picture that he's going to watch it because I'm like, he loves cringe humor and I'm like, I think it's true.
06:35 --> 06:36 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, yeah.
06:37 --> 06:40 [SPEAKER_10]: Because he just watched Superman and was blown away.
06:41 --> 06:42 [SPEAKER_14]: As he should have been.
06:43 --> 06:44 [SPEAKER_10]: As he should have been.
06:44 --> 06:47 [SPEAKER_10]: I just rewatched him Superman and I was blown away even more.
06:47 --> 06:48 [SPEAKER_14]: There we go.
06:50 --> 06:53 [SPEAKER_10]: But yeah, there's still, there's like a warm heart at the center of it.
06:54 --> 06:58 [SPEAKER_10]: And I appreciate, you know, a lot of the characters are assholes by definition.
06:58 --> 07:00 [SPEAKER_10]: That's just the nature of this group.
07:01 --> 07:04 [SPEAKER_10]: But they are, they can specific ways.
07:04 --> 07:07 [SPEAKER_10]: And then in other ways, I don't know, we'll get into it.
07:07 --> 07:07 [SPEAKER_10]: We'll get into it.
07:10 --> 07:13 [SPEAKER_10]: It's, it is a very human story within the DCU.
07:13 --> 07:15 [SPEAKER_10]: There's no meta humans involved, right?
07:15 --> 07:17 [SPEAKER_10]: Just humans and aliens?
07:18 --> 07:19 [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, guess so.
07:20 --> 07:23 [SPEAKER_14]: But even, yeah, yeah, I guess so.
07:24 --> 07:27 [SPEAKER_14]: There's no real, no.
07:28 --> 07:29 [SPEAKER_14]: Everyone is capable.
07:30 --> 07:30 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
07:32 --> 07:34 [SPEAKER_10]: Even if they survive being crushed by building.
07:35 --> 07:38 [SPEAKER_14]: Even if they survive being crushed by building, we'll fall for being careful.
07:38 --> 07:42 [SPEAKER_10]: Which is not a, which is not a spoiler for the show, but for the movie.
07:42 --> 07:42 [SPEAKER_10]: No seats.
07:45 --> 08:02 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, I just found overall the first season it came together very satisfyingly you know we just rewatched it obviously to prepare for this and just all the callbacks that's come together all the pieces like fits together like the puzzle at the end of the season and
08:04 --> 08:15 [SPEAKER_10]: I love the use of music, even though I'm not particularly into hair metal, which as the character piece maker is, and that's a core of the show, it's still
08:17 --> 08:22 [SPEAKER_10]: I like that the show takes the time to pause for musical moments every now and then.
08:23 --> 08:32 [SPEAKER_10]: And it always ends up working, diving beneath the surface of someone who, you know, like peacemaker lives behind an armor of caricature.
08:32 --> 08:37 [SPEAKER_10]: And when we see him give himself over to music as there's some of the truest moments we see.
08:40 --> 08:41 [SPEAKER_10]: And of course, I love the opening dance.
08:43 --> 08:46 [SPEAKER_10]: Are you in the opening dance hype?
08:48 --> 08:51 [SPEAKER_14]: You know, by the fourth episode, I was over it.
08:52 --> 08:56 [SPEAKER_14]: But initially I was like, oh man, okay, what's going on with this show?
08:58 --> 08:58 [SPEAKER_14]: What are we doing here?
08:59 --> 09:00 [SPEAKER_14]: What is this exactly?
09:00 --> 09:05 [SPEAKER_14]: So it did, you know, peak my interest to no end once I saw it out.
09:05 --> 09:06 [SPEAKER_14]: Like, okay.
09:06 --> 09:11 [SPEAKER_14]: I mean, let me sit up and be careful to pay attention to what's happening.
09:12 --> 09:13 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
09:13 --> 09:17 [SPEAKER_10]: The first season was, the song was, do you want to taste it by wigwem?
09:24 --> 09:29 [SPEAKER_10]: And season two, the song is going to be Foxy, Shazam's Oh Lord.
09:48 --> 09:52 [SPEAKER_10]: And we're promised it's gonna be bigger because it was a bigger cast.
09:52 --> 09:55 [SPEAKER_10]: Are you looking forward to a new take on the dance?
09:55 --> 09:56 [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, absolutely.
09:57 --> 09:57 [SPEAKER_14]: Absolutely.
09:58 --> 10:03 [SPEAKER_10]: Fun fact, the choreographer, Karissa Lee Barton, is married to Alan Tudik and she would
10:04 --> 10:12 [SPEAKER_10]: She would test the choreography on him because she calls him an actor of middling dance talent, which is fair.
10:16 --> 10:19 [SPEAKER_10]: So, to whom would you recommend this show?
10:19 --> 10:25 [SPEAKER_10]: And what do you think, what's the particular rating for violence in the rating?
10:25 --> 10:27 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, it's five plus.
10:27 --> 10:29 [SPEAKER_14]: It's five plus on the rating.
10:29 --> 10:30 [SPEAKER_10]: Okay, okay.
10:30 --> 10:33 [SPEAKER_10]: There is no score and there is people being
10:34 --> 10:34 [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah.
10:35 --> 10:35 [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah.
10:35 --> 10:51 [SPEAKER_14]: If you like that cringey type of humor, um, if you like gore, if you like blood and you're like people making you laugh about gore and blood, this shows for you.
10:53 --> 10:57 [SPEAKER_10]: If you want to know what hashtag supership means to piece make.
10:57 --> 10:59 [SPEAKER_14]: Oh, yes, this shows for you.
11:03 --> 11:07 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, so season one was eight episodes season two will be as well.
11:08 --> 11:14 [SPEAKER_10]: And of course, this is one of the special babies of writer director, showrunner now studio head James Gunn.
11:16 --> 11:23 [SPEAKER_10]: And yeah, I want to shut out a recommendation for first of all, the DC studios official podcast in general has been killing it.
11:23 --> 11:23 [SPEAKER_10]: I love it.
11:25 --> 11:26 [SPEAKER_10]: Marvel, too better.
11:28 --> 11:33 [SPEAKER_10]: But there was also a recap podcast, which I assume they'll do for season two as well.
11:33 --> 11:44 [SPEAKER_10]: But with James Gun himself with Jennifer Holland, who plays hardcore and Steve A. G. who plays economists, taking turns with the rest of the talking to the rest of the cast.
11:44 --> 11:46 [SPEAKER_10]: So that was really great.
11:47 --> 11:51 [SPEAKER_10]: I just listened to episode eight shortly before we recorded so that
11:53 --> 11:56 [SPEAKER_10]: James Cohen goes through and says everything that's canon or not canon.
11:57 --> 12:01 [SPEAKER_10]: Most of us canon from season one since it's switching.
12:01 --> 12:09 [SPEAKER_10]: So what do you want to explain to people with the deal is with the season one and season two in the different universes as far as we know?
12:11 --> 12:23 [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, so season one is what officially part of the DC EU season two is part of the DC EU and all would be explained in season two.
12:26 --> 12:29 [SPEAKER_14]: So I'm not really
12:31 --> 12:33 [SPEAKER_14]: I don't want to spoil too much about it.
12:34 --> 12:49 [SPEAKER_14]: But I think that these cast of characters will be carrying over into whatever gun is planning to do going forward in the DC universe and movies and TV shows.
12:49 --> 12:52 [SPEAKER_14]: We've already seen some interconnectedness with
12:54 --> 12:55 [SPEAKER_14]: your favorite show.
12:55 --> 12:56 [SPEAKER_14]: So far, creature commandals.
12:57 --> 13:03 [SPEAKER_10]: I, I rewatched it and I liked it a little less this time.
13:03 --> 13:16 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, yeah, thing is the thing is it's just like if I, since I watch peacemaker and then I watch that and then I watch Superman like all within a couple weeks and it's like one of these is not the same quality as the other two.
13:18 --> 13:18 [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, I guess.
13:19 --> 13:19 [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, okay.
13:20 --> 13:20 [SPEAKER_14]: All right.
13:21 --> 13:23 [SPEAKER_14]: Um, I don't think that you
13:24 --> 13:28 [SPEAKER_14]: to watch, you don't need to watch anything previously in order to watch peacemaker.
13:31 --> 13:41 [SPEAKER_14]: So yeah, you can go in pretty much being free of trying to figure out who is who and where is where and where did they fit into a puzzle?
13:42 --> 13:44 [SPEAKER_14]: It's not that type of show.
13:45 --> 13:49 [SPEAKER_14]: You get dropped into this world and you're in this world.
13:49 --> 13:52 [SPEAKER_14]: You don't have to know about the outside of it.
13:52 --> 13:53 [SPEAKER_10]: Right.
13:53 --> 13:58 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, I mean, I would watch obviously season one before season two, but at the beginning.
13:58 --> 13:59 [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, that's what I mean.
13:59 --> 13:59 [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah.
13:59 --> 13:59 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
14:00 --> 14:10 [SPEAKER_10]: At the beginning of season one, they do have a quick recap of everything you need to know, which is basically the suicide squad, the twenty twenty one James Gunn version of the movie.
14:10 --> 14:15 [SPEAKER_10]: So if you want to, you know, it's not a bad idea.
14:15 --> 14:23 [SPEAKER_10]: I actually would recommend if you want to watch one movie before, you can make it the suicide squad from twenty twenty one, but you don't have to.
14:24 --> 14:25 [SPEAKER_10]: you'll be fine if you don't.
14:27 --> 14:35 [SPEAKER_10]: And I would say if you want to do bonus watch, then you could watch suicide squad from twenty sixteen without the.
14:35 --> 14:45 [SPEAKER_10]: Because that's introduces the character Amanda Waller and it introduces the concept task force X and the character Rick Black Jr.
14:45 --> 14:47 [SPEAKER_10]: which plays a role.
14:48 --> 14:56 [SPEAKER_10]: So yeah, and if you want to bonus bonus and you can watch birds of prey from twenty twenty in between just because I call that the Harley Quinn trilogy and
14:57 --> 14:58 [SPEAKER_10]: Birds of praise, very good.
15:00 --> 15:03 [SPEAKER_14]: Favorite one of those movies actually, of the three just named it?
15:04 --> 15:04 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, okay.
15:04 --> 15:05 [SPEAKER_14]: Birds of praise, yeah.
15:06 --> 15:07 [SPEAKER_10]: For me, I don't know.
15:07 --> 15:10 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, that and the suicide squad are just right.
15:11 --> 15:13 [SPEAKER_14]: Very close call, but I really enjoyed birds of praise.
15:14 --> 15:19 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, yeah, those those are two of my top things from the DC EU.
15:21 --> 15:32 [SPEAKER_10]: With yeah, we should say we should say the Cavalverse versus the No, no, no, no, we're not going to do my boy like that.
15:32 --> 15:37 [SPEAKER_10]: No, I just mean, I just mean some people know which is which because it's confusing.
15:37 --> 15:38 [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
15:38 --> 15:38 [SPEAKER_14]: All right.
15:38 --> 15:39 [SPEAKER_14]: All right.
15:39 --> 15:41 [SPEAKER_14]: Still my Superman car.
15:41 --> 15:42 [SPEAKER_14]: Still my car.
15:43 --> 15:44 [SPEAKER_10]: Corn sweats my Superman now.
15:47 --> 15:50 [SPEAKER_10]: That means that Reeve lost that title.
15:50 --> 15:51 [SPEAKER_14]: Yes.
15:51 --> 15:52 [SPEAKER_14]: Yes.
15:52 --> 15:53 [SPEAKER_14]: And that's a pretty.
15:53 --> 15:54 [SPEAKER_10]: That's a high compliment.
15:54 --> 15:58 [SPEAKER_14]: A great compliment to make for someone absolutely.
15:59 --> 15:59 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
16:00 --> 16:06 [SPEAKER_14]: Those dreams you hear are the boys downstairs, just like that.
16:06 --> 16:07 [SPEAKER_10]: You're cooking them for dinner?
16:07 --> 16:09 [SPEAKER_10]: No.
16:09 --> 16:09 [SPEAKER_14]: No.
16:11 --> 16:12 [SPEAKER_14]: They are adorable though.
16:12 --> 16:13 [SPEAKER_10]: I will say that.
16:13 --> 16:14 [SPEAKER_10]: They are adorable.
16:15 --> 16:18 [SPEAKER_10]: You know, cuteness aggression is a thing when you want to bite.
16:18 --> 16:18 [SPEAKER_10]: Yes, it is.
16:23 --> 16:33 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, so the new DCU, this new universe that's all going to be explained in season two, includes so far creature commandos, which we just referenced.
16:34 --> 16:35 [SPEAKER_10]: And yeah, I think it's worth watching.
16:35 --> 16:37 [SPEAKER_10]: I don't think I think it's a good show.
16:37 --> 16:42 [SPEAKER_10]: I just think that it's not as great as Superman, which is the second one.
16:42 --> 16:46 [SPEAKER_10]: I give that five stars now and it's now third of my movie list this year.
16:47 --> 16:52 [SPEAKER_14]: I'm gonna go out on a limb and I say, if you don't watch it, you ain't missing much, man.
16:53 --> 16:55 [SPEAKER_10]: What, could you command us, you mean?
16:55 --> 16:56 [SPEAKER_10]: Could you command?
16:56 --> 16:58 [SPEAKER_10]: No, we're not so much.
16:58 --> 17:03 [SPEAKER_14]: If you don't watch soups that we have issues, you don't want to treat your commandos, I'm cool with it.
17:03 --> 17:03 [SPEAKER_14]: That's all right.
17:04 --> 17:06 [SPEAKER_10]: I mean, I would watch preacher Commandos.
17:07 --> 17:09 [SPEAKER_10]: There are some tie-in characters.
17:10 --> 17:10 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
17:11 --> 17:12 [SPEAKER_10]: It's worth watching.
17:12 --> 17:14 [SPEAKER_10]: Anyway, with Superman, I would definitely watch.
17:14 --> 17:17 [SPEAKER_10]: And we know some of those characters are going to show up in season two.
17:17 --> 17:23 [SPEAKER_10]: Episodes are about forty-five minutes each, which actually feels like a sweet spot with a show.
17:25 --> 17:31 [SPEAKER_10]: The rumored budget for season one was fifty, somewhere between fifty and a hundred and eighty-five million.
17:31 --> 17:33 [SPEAKER_14]: That's a wide range of between.
17:33 --> 17:33 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
17:35 --> 17:38 [SPEAKER_10]: I think the latter number includes more like marketing stuff.
17:38 --> 17:40 [SPEAKER_10]: It's often gets left out of the official number.
17:42 --> 17:53 [SPEAKER_10]: And season one, it got ninety three percent on Rotten Tomatoes from critics, eighty seven percent from audiences, seventy percent on Metacritic or seven point four from audiences.
17:54 --> 17:58 [SPEAKER_10]: I am DB, gave it an eight point three, which is quite high for IMDB.
17:59 --> 18:05 [SPEAKER_10]: And season one released in January in February of twenty twenty two with a three episode initial drop.
18:05 --> 18:17 [SPEAKER_10]: And it was renewed right away in February of twenty twenty two because there is the rare scenario where viewership actually increased dramatically forty four percent over the run.
18:20 --> 18:24 [SPEAKER_10]: really a phenomenon, so hoping that the show does just as well this time.
18:26 --> 18:39 [SPEAKER_10]: And this time, yeah, it's three and a half years later, but that's because of the strikes and then because of the rearranging of DC studio heads and swapping of universes, so long awaited.
18:40 --> 18:44 [SPEAKER_10]: Jean, do you have any thoughts you want to throw out in the spoiler free zone?
18:44 --> 18:47 [SPEAKER_10]: And any last things you would say to those who are going to leave us now?
18:48 --> 18:58 [SPEAKER_14]: No, just, um, I think you'll enjoy the show again if you're okay with, you know, Gore blood guts and humor surrounding all of that stuff.
18:59 --> 19:14 [SPEAKER_14]: It's not for the faint of heart, both physically and it can be infuriating emotionally, but they tackle the subjects that they do tackle racism, sagini, um, they tackle those subjects, I think.
19:15 --> 19:19 [SPEAKER_14]: as well as one can hope to tackle those subjects.
19:19 --> 19:20 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, yeah.
19:21 --> 19:26 [SPEAKER_10]: With a certain amount of realism, but also cartoonish fun.
19:27 --> 19:33 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, because, you know, because piece makers are walking cartoon.
19:37 --> 19:48 [SPEAKER_10]: All right, well, when we're going to take a quick break and when we get back, we will catch you up again in case you forget about what happened in the suicide squad, twenty twenty one because that's probably going to play a role in season two.
19:50 --> 19:50 [SPEAKER_10]: You're back.
20:04 --> 20:11 [SPEAKER_10]: All right, suicide squad, twenty, twenty, duh, suicide squad, sorry.
20:11 --> 20:16 [SPEAKER_10]: So what are some things you think it's important for us to remember from this film?
20:18 --> 20:24 [SPEAKER_14]: Um, that piece maker kills Rick Flag Julia.
20:24 --> 20:27 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, that's the reason.
20:27 --> 20:37 [SPEAKER_14]: I think that's the most important thing as it relates to this show is that Rick Flag Julia for those don't know he's a
20:39 --> 20:57 [SPEAKER_14]: military guy who's a man to water who heads up the suicide squad task force as X whatever you want to call them task force made of you know criminals or who she deems to be criminals and send them on covert ops
20:58 --> 21:01 [SPEAKER_14]: And if they try to escape, she blows their heads off.
21:02 --> 21:05 [SPEAKER_10]: And if they succeed, they get ten years off their sentence.
21:05 --> 21:05 [SPEAKER_14]: Allegedly.
21:06 --> 21:07 [SPEAKER_14]: Allegedly.
21:07 --> 21:07 [SPEAKER_14]: Allegedly.
21:08 --> 21:09 [SPEAKER_14]: We do sentences.
21:09 --> 21:11 [SPEAKER_10]: That's what she promises, yeah.
21:11 --> 21:11 [SPEAKER_14]: Right.
21:12 --> 21:21 [SPEAKER_14]: Um, so Rikflad Junior is a person who is not the criminal who is placed in charge of this disparate groups of of people to get them to complete their missions.
21:22 --> 21:28 [SPEAKER_14]: And during one set mission in the suicide squad, peace make book, kill them.
21:30 --> 21:32 [SPEAKER_14]: Because he was trying to complete the mission.
21:34 --> 21:37 [SPEAKER_14]: And he's going to complete the mission in the matter who has to die.
21:38 --> 21:39 [SPEAKER_14]: And Rick Flag Jr.
21:39 --> 21:40 [SPEAKER_14]: was the person who died.
21:41 --> 21:45 [SPEAKER_14]: So we know Rick Flag Senior is in the DCU.
21:45 --> 21:48 [SPEAKER_14]: And we know that he knows that peace maker killed his son.
21:49 --> 21:50 [SPEAKER_10]: But that is a question.
21:50 --> 21:58 [SPEAKER_10]: Does he know, because I was thinking, I was noticing in Superman, like he does not seem to know that
21:58 --> 22:04 [SPEAKER_10]: Amanda Waller had a hand in it basically because she told peace maker do whatever you need to do to stop.
22:05 --> 22:06 [SPEAKER_10]: And then she's like, Oh, I didn't mean kill.
22:06 --> 22:07 [SPEAKER_10]: But of course, she always means kill.
22:08 --> 22:09 [SPEAKER_04]: Sean is cool.
22:09 --> 22:09 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
22:10 --> 22:17 [SPEAKER_10]: But she told, she gave peace maker the command that led to him killing Rick flag junior.
22:17 --> 22:17 [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
22:17 --> 22:20 [SPEAKER_10]: And I don't think Rick flag senior.
22:22 --> 22:49 [SPEAKER_10]: knows that and i wonder i don't know if he knows the peacemaker killed him or not because i i did in the rewatch i thought that it was said but in the rewatch um he he knows that he died on this mission to court romanties uh this project starfish thing but yes and there are a scene and and creature commandals um
22:50 --> 22:51 [SPEAKER_14]: I'm trying to recall.
22:51 --> 23:13 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, I would say the scene in creature commandos is that Waller says something about that weasel is on the creature commandos team because he's one of the few who survived Cortamaltese shows that he has what it takes and then, you know, she looks a Rick Flag senior who's sun died in Cortamaltese and says sorry.
23:14 --> 23:15 [SPEAKER_12]: What is that then?
23:15 --> 23:16 [SPEAKER_12]: The reason.
23:16 --> 23:23 [SPEAKER_12]: It's one of the few soldiers still alive from Project Starfish and Corto Maltese, so we know it has what it takes to survive.
23:25 --> 23:29 [SPEAKER_12]: Sorry, I didn't mean to intimate anything about your son flag.
23:30 --> 23:33 [SPEAKER_12]: When he died in Corto Maltese, he died a hero.
23:34 --> 23:37 [SPEAKER_14]: Okay, well, I take that back.
23:38 --> 23:39 [SPEAKER_14]: Maybe he doesn't know.
23:39 --> 23:41 [SPEAKER_14]: I think he doesn't know, but we'll see.
23:42 --> 23:42 [SPEAKER_10]: We'll see.
23:43 --> 23:48 [SPEAKER_10]: But do you ever flag Senior turned up in creature commandos with white hair and then turns up with dark hair in Superman?
23:48 --> 23:49 [SPEAKER_14]: Yes, Superman.
23:50 --> 23:51 [SPEAKER_14]: And dies is here, huh?
23:52 --> 23:53 [SPEAKER_14]: Yes.
23:53 --> 23:57 [SPEAKER_10]: Maybe he shares his better hair die with, with divert.
24:01 --> 24:05 [SPEAKER_10]: But we do know he's coming back for season two of Peace Maker.
24:05 --> 24:05 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
24:06 --> 24:27 [SPEAKER_10]: So yeah, so I don't know if we're going to see any of Bell Reeve, but that is one of the main prisons, and that's where the suicide squad people are kept and also the creatures, the monsters of creature commandos, and this is under Argus, the advanced research group, uniting super humans, and
24:28 --> 24:32 [SPEAKER_10]: Basically, yeah, there's task force x is what the suicide squad's were called.
24:32 --> 24:38 [SPEAKER_10]: And I think I guess peacemaker season one they were technically a task force x. I think so too.
24:39 --> 24:48 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, but then at the end of the season, as we'll talk about out of biorets out her mom and she is no longer allowed to use humans.
24:48 --> 24:52 [SPEAKER_10]: So she starts a task force m that only uses non-human.
24:53 --> 24:53 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
24:54 --> 24:55 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, entities.
24:56 --> 24:59 [SPEAKER_10]: Um, yeah, so Amanda Waller played by Bill Davis.
25:00 --> 25:07 [SPEAKER_10]: She turns up wherever Bell Reeve does, which is why it's so interesting that Lex Luther was being sent there at the end of Superman.
25:08 --> 25:18 [SPEAKER_10]: Um, she's known generally for going too far and prioritizes operation success and keeping government secrets over lives.
25:19 --> 25:22 [SPEAKER_10]: Um, do you think she thinks she's a good person?
25:22 --> 25:24 [SPEAKER_10]: What do you think motivates her to be like this?
25:25 --> 25:27 [SPEAKER_14]: Does she think she's a good person?
25:27 --> 25:27 [SPEAKER_10]: Uh-huh.
25:28 --> 25:30 [SPEAKER_10]: Do you think she thinks she's doing the right thing?
25:30 --> 25:34 [SPEAKER_14]: I think she thinks she's doing the right thing, but I know she doesn't believe she's a good person.
25:36 --> 25:43 [SPEAKER_14]: Like she sacrificed, I believe she's the story that she's telling and that I've sacrificed my goodness for the good of everyone else.
25:43 --> 25:46 [SPEAKER_10]: So she's the Lutheran, from Endor.
25:47 --> 25:49 [SPEAKER_14]: Oh, I know much worse skill.
25:50 --> 25:50 [SPEAKER_10]: Mm-hmm.
25:52 --> 25:52 [SPEAKER_10]: Okay.
25:52 --> 25:53 [SPEAKER_14]: Oh, much worse, go.
25:54 --> 26:01 [SPEAKER_14]: But yeah, I think she thinks she's doing the right thing and had to sacrifice her home morality in order to do it.
26:02 --> 26:02 [SPEAKER_10]: Right.
26:03 --> 26:03 [SPEAKER_10]: Right.
26:03 --> 26:04 [SPEAKER_10]: Now that's true.
26:06 --> 26:12 [SPEAKER_10]: There was supposed to be a spin-off show with her and it was originally going to be before this season too, Waller.
26:13 --> 26:19 [SPEAKER_10]: But then I think apparently it's still in development, but just now it's going to be after season two.
26:19 --> 26:22 [SPEAKER_10]: I guess because of all the shake up with everything we said.
26:22 --> 26:23 [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, I'm going to go with that.
26:23 --> 26:24 [SPEAKER_14]: I would love to see the show.
26:25 --> 26:25 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
26:25 --> 26:31 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, especially it'll be interesting if it's her and Lex Luther teaming up and getting into trouble in Bellevue.
26:33 --> 26:46 [SPEAKER_10]: But yeah, as we alluded to earlier, peacemaker at the end of this movie, the so-called wild was shot and crushed by falling building, but then in the credit scene, he's in the hospital and while her wants to use him in her next project.
26:46 --> 26:53 [SPEAKER_10]: And yeah, also in that movie, this is where hardcore and economists were introduced as background characters.
26:54 --> 26:56 [SPEAKER_10]: They became main characters and peacemaker and
26:57 --> 27:14 [SPEAKER_10]: Also, we have Flo Crowley, who's another aide who knocked out a man or water in the movie before she could stop the suicide squad from changing their mission and saving the people of Quartermaltese.
27:15 --> 27:22 [SPEAKER_10]: And I bring her up because she turned up in the background in Superman, so she could turn up in the show as well.
27:25 --> 27:27 [SPEAKER_10]: Um, who do you think?
27:29 --> 27:37 [SPEAKER_10]: From the suicide squad, we could see in the DCU, or who would you want to see from the suicide squad in the DCU?
27:39 --> 27:40 [SPEAKER_14]: Oh, um, who's still a lot.
27:40 --> 27:41 [SPEAKER_10]: How are they going to do?
27:42 --> 27:42 [SPEAKER_10]: Mm-hmm.
27:42 --> 27:43 [SPEAKER_10]: Do you want Margarabi back?
27:44 --> 27:44 [SPEAKER_10]: Same casting?
27:44 --> 27:44 [SPEAKER_10]: Yes.
27:45 --> 27:45 [SPEAKER_10]: Okay.
27:46 --> 27:48 [SPEAKER_14]: Bloodsport, yes, Idris Elba, yes.
27:49 --> 27:57 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, apparently it seems like it sounds like there's talks going on to get bloodsport back in like James gun once that.
27:57 --> 27:58 [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, I went that too.
27:59 --> 27:59 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
28:00 --> 28:00 [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, yeah.
28:01 --> 28:03 [SPEAKER_14]: Red catcher, I think.
28:05 --> 28:06 [SPEAKER_14]: Is she still alive?
28:06 --> 28:06 [SPEAKER_14]: Yes.
28:06 --> 28:11 [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, she's not as one saying she isn't the DC you.
28:11 --> 28:12 [SPEAKER_14]: Yes.
28:12 --> 28:17 [SPEAKER_14]: Is she going to be seeing the fifty-fifty on that?
28:18 --> 28:20 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, I wouldn't mind seeing more of her.
28:20 --> 28:22 [SPEAKER_14]: No, I wouldn't mind.
28:22 --> 28:23 [SPEAKER_14]: She was cool.
28:24 --> 28:29 [SPEAKER_14]: King Shark, he's already coming back and creature commandals too.
28:30 --> 28:42 [SPEAKER_14]: So he's there and then from like it's from the original suicide squad in twenty sixteen and we know we'll get a Joker, but it won't be generally don't thank God.
28:42 --> 28:45 [SPEAKER_14]: That shot, I don't think we'll see.
28:45 --> 28:48 [SPEAKER_10]: Well Smith played that shot.
28:51 --> 28:56 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, he didn't want to come back for the suicide squad, so I don't know how to have blood support.
28:57 --> 28:59 [SPEAKER_10]: And honestly, upgrade, sorry.
28:59 --> 29:01 [SPEAKER_10]: I'm from really, but still.
29:04 --> 29:06 [SPEAKER_14]: That's sacrilegious way.
29:07 --> 29:08 [SPEAKER_14]: The sacrilegious.
29:08 --> 29:08 [SPEAKER_14]: What's Philly?
29:09 --> 29:11 [SPEAKER_14]: Oh, good musicians.
29:13 --> 29:19 [SPEAKER_14]: Patana, I can see Patana playing a role in a Batman centric universe.
29:21 --> 29:22 [SPEAKER_14]: Kill a crock the same.
29:22 --> 29:27 [SPEAKER_14]: I can see Kill a crock playing a role in a Batman centric universe.
29:27 --> 29:28 [SPEAKER_14]: So I can see those two characters come back.
29:29 --> 29:37 [SPEAKER_14]: whether they're played by Karen Fuka Harra or had a well-a, I'm not sure, but I'll see the two characters come back.
29:38 --> 29:44 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, I think really underused Katana especially in the first suicide team.
29:44 --> 29:45 [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, she's a great character.
29:45 --> 29:47 [SPEAKER_14]: She's written so well in the comics, I think.
29:47 --> 29:52 [SPEAKER_14]: I think she, you know, a lot of untapped potential for screen time.
29:52 --> 29:52 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
29:53 --> 29:57 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, so I guess the characters from those who aside squad more likely, the surviving ones.
29:57 --> 30:01 [SPEAKER_10]: Unfortunately, David, Des Malci, and it is dead.
30:01 --> 30:02 [SPEAKER_10]: Mr. Poked up, man.
30:04 --> 30:04 [SPEAKER_14]: What's great?
30:04 --> 30:05 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
30:05 --> 30:06 [SPEAKER_10]: He's one of my current favorite actors.
30:07 --> 30:10 [SPEAKER_10]: Everyone watches YouTube talk show, grave conversations.
30:11 --> 30:11 [SPEAKER_13]: Okay, cool.
30:12 --> 30:20 [SPEAKER_10]: Um, yeah, it's basically like after this movie, James Gunn was asked which the suicide squad character he wanted to spin off.
30:20 --> 30:24 [SPEAKER_10]: And he said he was inspired by what he sensed, John Cena was capable of.
30:25 --> 30:29 [SPEAKER_10]: And I do have to say he's quasi-breaking his own role.
30:29 --> 30:32 [SPEAKER_10]: He's always like, when a character dies, I'm not bringing them back.
30:32 --> 30:39 [SPEAKER_10]: And this is how he justifies what he did to Nina Mazersky in the creature commanders.
30:40 --> 30:40 [SPEAKER_09]: Right.
30:41 --> 30:44 [SPEAKER_10]: but he kind of broke it to bring back peacemakers.
30:44 --> 30:49 [SPEAKER_10]: So it's just whether the actor or character inspires him basically.
30:51 --> 30:52 [SPEAKER_10]: Um, yeah.
30:52 --> 30:53 [SPEAKER_10]: So season one setting.
30:53 --> 30:55 [SPEAKER_10]: I'm not sure if it's going to be in the same place.
30:55 --> 30:56 [SPEAKER_10]: I guess so.
30:56 --> 30:57 [SPEAKER_10]: It looks at least partially.
30:57 --> 31:03 [SPEAKER_10]: It's a semi rural evergreen fictional town in Charlton County, Washington State.
31:04 --> 31:07 [SPEAKER_10]: And it's piece maker and vigilante's hometown.
31:07 --> 31:12 [SPEAKER_10]: But it was season one was filmed in Vancouver in season two was filmed in Atlanta.
31:13 --> 31:16 [SPEAKER_10]: And a slightly longer recap.
31:16 --> 31:17 [SPEAKER_10]: Do you want to take turns doing this?
31:17 --> 31:18 [SPEAKER_10]: Do you want to take a picture?
31:18 --> 31:18 [SPEAKER_10]: Sure.
31:19 --> 31:20 [SPEAKER_14]: Let's go.
31:20 --> 31:31 [SPEAKER_14]: Once peacemaker is released from the hospital, he finds out the price of his freedom from Bell Reeve is joining a new black ops crew investigating the mysterious project, Butterfly.
31:31 --> 31:36 [SPEAKER_14]: Which turns out to be an alien invasion from an intelligent butterfly.
31:37 --> 31:39 [SPEAKER_14]: I just so funny saying.
31:39 --> 31:49 [SPEAKER_14]: From an intelligent butterfly like aliens who take over human bodies, killing the holes and nesting in their heads, where they have full access to their memories.
31:50 --> 32:05 [SPEAKER_10]: led by their leader at first posing as a senator, then trapped in a jar and peacemakers trailer, then in the body of the previously quippy detective song, the butterflies planned to take over the earth, believing they can save the planet from the selfish evils of humanity.
32:06 --> 32:16 [SPEAKER_10]: And they've even managed to convince some humans to join their causes, well, like judo master, a pocket-sized master of the martial arts, with a kick more powerful than his favorite flaming hot chido snack.
32:17 --> 32:22 [SPEAKER_10]: It's the job of the black ops group that becomes known as the eleven street kids to stop them.
32:23 --> 32:31 [SPEAKER_14]: The eleven street kids find a location of the space cow being milked for the honey like goo the butterflies eat to survive.
32:31 --> 32:33 [SPEAKER_14]: Let's think about that for a minute.
32:35 --> 32:44 [SPEAKER_14]: They find a location of the space cow being milked for the honey like goo butterflies eat to survive.
32:45 --> 32:47 [SPEAKER_14]: I mean, if you can't get down with a show that does this.
32:47 --> 32:50 [SPEAKER_14]: I've got a question, everything that you're about.
32:51 --> 32:52 [SPEAKER_10]: Sounds logical to me.
32:53 --> 33:01 [SPEAKER_14]: Knowing this is the butterfly's only food source, they band together to kill the animal, taking out as many butterflies along the way as they can.
33:01 --> 33:06 [SPEAKER_14]: After they get eternally irritating, judo master out of their hair.
33:06 --> 33:14 [SPEAKER_14]: Not to mention, peacemakers racist father and local KKK leader, August Smith, aka the supervillain White Dragon.
33:15 --> 33:20 [SPEAKER_14]: who's determined to kill his son, and the rest of the eleven street kids were framing him for murder.
33:22 --> 33:24 [SPEAKER_10]: So, yeah, I love, uh... It's a lot.
33:25 --> 33:25 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, it's a lot.
33:26 --> 33:29 [SPEAKER_10]: I love that they don't, uh, wallet and company.
33:29 --> 33:31 [SPEAKER_10]: They just do not waste time naming things.
33:31 --> 33:38 [SPEAKER_10]: So, Project Starfish, you're going to get a freaking giant Starrow Kaiju project butterfly, a bunch of butterfly like it.
33:38 --> 33:39 [SPEAKER_10]: What's your butterflies?
33:39 --> 33:40 [SPEAKER_14]: You'll see.
33:40 --> 33:40 [SPEAKER_14]: That's it.
33:42 --> 33:51 [SPEAKER_10]: And of course, the eleven street kids name Monica comes from the episode where they listen to that song by Hennoy Rocks and Hardcore takes a photo that she shares.
33:51 --> 33:54 [SPEAKER_10]: That's one of my favorite moments in the whole season.
33:55 --> 33:55 [SPEAKER_14]: You?
33:58 --> 33:58 [SPEAKER_14]: Let me say, okay.
34:02 --> 34:07 [SPEAKER_14]: So the scene of piecemaker in the hospital, right?
34:08 --> 34:10 [SPEAKER_14]: When he gets out and he, I think it was the janitor.
34:12 --> 34:18 [SPEAKER_14]: That says, hey, I know you, you're the racist guy who thinks he's a superhero, right?
34:19 --> 34:22 [SPEAKER_14]: And he's like, I'm not racist.
34:23 --> 34:26 [SPEAKER_14]: And then guy goes, yeah, you only kill black people.
34:26 --> 34:28 [SPEAKER_14]: And he's like, no, I can anybody.
34:28 --> 34:29 [SPEAKER_14]: I kill white people too.
34:30 --> 34:36 [SPEAKER_14]: And then the guy tells him, hey, maybe you should go looking for more white people to kill because they do crimes too.
34:37 --> 34:38 [SPEAKER_14]: And then he thinks about it.
34:38 --> 34:41 [SPEAKER_14]: And he says, yeah, you know what?
34:42 --> 34:46 [SPEAKER_14]: Maybe I will start looking at more white people to kill for the crimes that they commit.
34:47 --> 34:47 [SPEAKER_14]: Right.
34:48 --> 34:48 [SPEAKER_02]: Fine.
34:49 --> 34:51 [SPEAKER_02]: If you're a superhero, what were you in prison for?
34:51 --> 34:51 [SPEAKER_02]: Integrity.
34:52 --> 34:53 [SPEAKER_02]: I need a vow to have peace.
34:53 --> 34:55 [SPEAKER_02]: You matter how many people I have to kill to get it.
34:56 --> 34:58 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, peace maker!
34:58 --> 35:00 [SPEAKER_00]: You're that racist superhero!
35:00 --> 35:02 [SPEAKER_00]: You only killed my nordies, man!
35:02 --> 35:04 [SPEAKER_03]: I killed a fair amount of white people too.
35:04 --> 35:06 [SPEAKER_03]: The ratio is suspect is all I have to say.
35:06 --> 35:08 [SPEAKER_03]: Somebody's committing a crime.
35:08 --> 35:08 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
35:08 --> 35:10 [SPEAKER_03]: I suppose to control what their ethnicity is.
35:10 --> 35:13 [SPEAKER_03]: No, but you need to watch white people as closely as you watch people of color.
35:14 --> 35:15 [SPEAKER_03]: So you see more of them committing crime.
35:15 --> 35:17 [SPEAKER_03]: Fine, that's a good point.
35:17 --> 35:20 [SPEAKER_03]: I will trust white people less in the future and kill a higher percentage of them.
35:21 --> 35:21 [SPEAKER_03]: Are you satisfied?
35:23 --> 35:23 [SPEAKER_14]: Yes.
35:24 --> 35:31 [SPEAKER_14]: And just that this distillation of having a conversation with a racist.
35:32 --> 35:32 [SPEAKER_10]: Uh-huh.
35:33 --> 35:36 [SPEAKER_14]: is was so good.
35:37 --> 36:01 [SPEAKER_10]: Well, I don't, I honestly think the peacemaker is not racist and that he's shown that his father, because I think the speaker is a misogynist, but I don't think he's racist or he's clearly not homophobic because he's canonically bisexual, but in that's one of the things that his father bullied him about, but like even as a kid when we get the flashbacks of them as a kid and
36:03 --> 36:24 [SPEAKER_10]: his brother's like listen to this song or something and he's like is this is this a white power thing and he's like no no and he's okay then then I'm interested you know so he's just it's a big song but still rocks so cool he's just to do this rock and roll he's that white power quite power it's a devil he's rocker will forever and tongue case on bays is my pilot yeah
36:27 --> 36:34 [SPEAKER_10]: I think he's just been smeared with the stink of his father, which, yeah, understandable, I said.
36:34 --> 36:42 [SPEAKER_14]: Smith with the stink of his father that has gone on to commit horrible crimes against mostly black people.
36:43 --> 36:51 [SPEAKER_14]: I mean, are you taking that bait only based on what I think that based on the character that who is peacemaker?
36:51 --> 36:54 [SPEAKER_14]: We don't see him before we see him in the suicide squad.
36:54 --> 36:56 [SPEAKER_14]: So I'm taking him based on what I know of the character.
36:57 --> 37:00 [SPEAKER_10]: I mean, we see Rick Flag juniors, a white guy.
37:00 --> 37:02 [SPEAKER_10]: I think I think that that come.
37:02 --> 37:06 [SPEAKER_10]: I really liked that would the whole part that you brought up that I forget the actor's name.
37:07 --> 37:08 [SPEAKER_10]: But who?
37:09 --> 37:10 [SPEAKER_10]: The janitor.
37:10 --> 37:11 [SPEAKER_14]: Resuan Monji.
37:12 --> 37:13 [SPEAKER_14]: That's his name.
37:13 --> 37:14 [SPEAKER_10]: Okay.
37:14 --> 37:15 [SPEAKER_14]: That's the actor's name.
37:16 --> 37:18 [SPEAKER_14]: And he's been in a lot of things.
37:19 --> 37:20 [SPEAKER_10]: Oh, Jamil is the character's name.
37:21 --> 37:21 [SPEAKER_10]: Okay.
37:21 --> 37:22 [SPEAKER_14]: The character's Jamil.
37:23 --> 37:23 [SPEAKER_14]: Yes.
37:23 --> 37:24 [SPEAKER_10]: Resuan Monji.
37:24 --> 37:25 [SPEAKER_14]: Okay.
37:25 --> 37:26 [SPEAKER_10]: Okay.
37:27 --> 37:33 [SPEAKER_10]: I like what you're saying about Jimmy, the janitor, if it's Rizwan Mangi, thank you for looking up the name.
37:35 --> 37:43 [SPEAKER_10]: I just as a general commentary on the fact that people, even people who are not overtly racist might have
37:44 --> 37:55 [SPEAKER_10]: unconscious biases and I thought that it was actually quite cool of piecemaker to be like, okay, you know what, maybe I do have an unconscious bias and I'll make sure to pay attention to that, even though.
37:55 --> 37:59 [SPEAKER_14]: Oh, no, I totally agree that totally agree that that doesn't mean he's not racist though.
38:01 --> 38:04 [SPEAKER_14]: To recognize your unconscious bias because we're all biased.
38:05 --> 38:06 [SPEAKER_14]: We all have our biases.
38:06 --> 38:12 [SPEAKER_14]: We all have our things that we look a skew at others or situations or whatever, right?
38:13 --> 38:25 [SPEAKER_14]: And the reason why I brought up that scene is precisely because of what you just said, is because at the end of the scene, Christopher says to himself, huh?
38:27 --> 38:30 [SPEAKER_14]: Maybe I do need to look at something that I've been doing.
38:31 --> 38:34 [SPEAKER_14]: That doesn't absolve him from racist acts.
38:35 --> 38:46 [SPEAKER_10]: But I don't think that we've seen him, I think he genuine, like the facts that Jamil thinks this about him has more to do with his father than anything that we've seen him do.
38:46 --> 38:47 [SPEAKER_14]: Why would you say that?
38:48 --> 38:49 [SPEAKER_10]: Because we haven't seen him.
38:49 --> 38:50 [SPEAKER_14]: From Jamil's standpoint though.
38:51 --> 38:51 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
38:51 --> 38:53 [SPEAKER_14]: Jamil is talking about what he's seen.
38:54 --> 38:56 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, but Jamil hasn't literally seen him kill people.
38:57 --> 39:03 [SPEAKER_10]: The only people that we have seen him take out have been, I don't think he, he obviously doesn't pick.
39:04 --> 39:14 [SPEAKER_14]: So you're saying Jamil is uninformed that piecemaker has been killing most people like people in that universe that Jamil lives in, that he doesn't know what he's been seeing.
39:15 --> 39:22 [SPEAKER_10]: Why don't think that he said that he has been mostly killing, but also, that's what he said.
39:22 --> 39:23 [SPEAKER_10]: That's what he said.
39:24 --> 39:32 [SPEAKER_10]: But we see, over and over again, that people think peacemaker is more racist than he actually is because of his father.
39:33 --> 39:38 [SPEAKER_10]: And I think that yes, Jamiel's perception of him is also biased in the same way.
39:38 --> 39:42 [SPEAKER_10]: Every single character we meet has that same bias perception of him.
39:42 --> 39:44 [SPEAKER_10]: But when peacemaker is given the chance,
39:45 --> 39:50 [SPEAKER_10]: He always shows that he's uncomfortable with that.
39:50 --> 40:00 [SPEAKER_10]: That's part of the complexity of his relationship with his father, where he wants to be loved by him and he wants to love him, but he's also like, yeah, that dude's fucking off on, and obviously stands up to him at the end.
40:00 --> 40:02 [SPEAKER_14]: We will agree to disagree on.
40:02 --> 40:04 [SPEAKER_10]: But he's massagenistic, it's fuck.
40:05 --> 40:13 [SPEAKER_14]: No, he's massagenistic, but we'll agree to disagree because I can't generally speak in from a point of view of being in universe.
40:14 --> 40:15 [SPEAKER_10]: So, yeah.
40:16 --> 40:21 [SPEAKER_14]: And having knowledge of peacemakers activities.
40:22 --> 40:26 [SPEAKER_14]: So for him, I don't think he would just say it because his father's KKK.
40:26 --> 40:31 [SPEAKER_14]: Like, that's not what he didn't say your father's KKK.
40:31 --> 40:36 [SPEAKER_14]: So therefore what, you know, he says specifically your actions would you've been doing.
40:37 --> 40:40 [SPEAKER_14]: So that's in universe, that conversation is occurring.
40:40 --> 40:41 [SPEAKER_14]: That's why I take it that way.
40:42 --> 40:43 [SPEAKER_10]: Mm-hmm.
40:44 --> 40:50 [SPEAKER_10]: But I think that we have not, like he didn't tell us, oh, you killed these people.
40:51 --> 40:53 [SPEAKER_10]: You're just, he's like, you know, pay attention to them.
40:53 --> 40:54 [SPEAKER_10]: He's like, oh, I will.
40:54 --> 41:04 [SPEAKER_10]: But what we've seen, what we know about Kiteman, who's usually white, and we know about Rick Flagg Jr., and we don't really know much more than that, to other, yeah, anyway.
41:05 --> 41:07 [SPEAKER_14]: So we will agree that disagree also.
41:08 --> 41:12 [SPEAKER_10]: But okay, so his father obviously is at the crux of this whole conversation.
41:12 --> 41:13 [SPEAKER_10]: Absolutely.
41:14 --> 41:19 [SPEAKER_10]: Oggy Smith, the White Dragon play by Robert Patrick, who seems like a really lovely guy.
41:20 --> 41:21 [SPEAKER_14]: Robert Patrick.
41:22 --> 41:23 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
41:27 --> 41:36 [SPEAKER_10]: The only time we saw White Dragon laugh is when peacemaker told him about someone being tortured alive, tortured of death.
41:37 --> 41:40 [SPEAKER_14]: So gosh, this sickness does not.
41:41 --> 41:55 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, and he made the brothers, Chris peacemaker and his brother Keith made them do a fight club and Chris accidentally killed his brother Keith and his dad never forgave him for that.
41:55 --> 41:55 [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
41:58 --> 42:03 [SPEAKER_10]: And yeah, I would say his dad is the cause of most of peacemakers psychological damage.
42:05 --> 42:08 [SPEAKER_10]: But he's also the source of most of his gear.
42:08 --> 42:16 [SPEAKER_10]: So he was making Chris's helmets, where each one does something different, although it seems like we lost a bunch during season one.
42:16 --> 42:18 [SPEAKER_10]: And the question is who's going to make his gear now?
42:19 --> 42:21 [SPEAKER_14]: Well, he need gear now.
42:22 --> 42:23 [SPEAKER_10]: I mean, I guess.
42:23 --> 42:24 [SPEAKER_14]: What's his role?
42:24 --> 42:25 [SPEAKER_14]: What's he going to be doing?
42:27 --> 42:27 [SPEAKER_10]: That's what I know.
42:29 --> 42:39 [SPEAKER_10]: Exploring his father's other invention, quantum unfolding chamber, which leads to a dimensional, dimensional nodule outside of normal space.
42:40 --> 42:43 [SPEAKER_10]: So this is likely linked to season two's multiverse.
42:44 --> 42:51 [SPEAKER_10]: We know it's going to be a multiversal shenanigan story and it's been pointed out or at least I made it as in the trailer.
42:51 --> 42:56 [SPEAKER_10]: I saw that they were like, oh, like Lex Luther's pocket universe.
42:57 --> 43:02 [SPEAKER_14]: I mean, that would be cool if there was some sort of, you know, crossover between those two things.
43:03 --> 43:10 [SPEAKER_14]: But I don't think so because peace makers pocket dimensions is whatever he called them.
43:11 --> 43:13 [SPEAKER_14]: David, it was so much cleaner than Lexus.
43:13 --> 43:14 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
43:14 --> 43:14 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
43:15 --> 43:16 [SPEAKER_10]: I mean, his father was just better at that.
43:16 --> 43:19 [SPEAKER_10]: But now is not around to me in the tech.
43:19 --> 43:20 [SPEAKER_14]: So that's, that's my thing.
43:20 --> 43:34 [SPEAKER_14]: It's just like, with Lex, tapping, I don't know if Lex was tapping into the same, using the same sorts of technologies that they were using, that they are using is just because it just looked so radically different.
43:35 --> 43:42 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, I mean, they literally say, oh, it's like that, but I know we're going to get more of an explanation and season to be sure.
43:43 --> 43:43 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
43:43 --> 43:50 [SPEAKER_14]: And something too, when I said, you know, does he need like the uniforms and helmets and things like that?
43:51 --> 43:54 [SPEAKER_14]: I don't think he wants to be this.
43:56 --> 43:58 [SPEAKER_14]: I don't think he wants to be peace-maker.
43:59 --> 44:02 [SPEAKER_10]: He's not the version he was, yeah.
44:02 --> 44:06 [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, and until next time, I don't know if he wants to do that period.
44:07 --> 44:16 [SPEAKER_14]: I think I'm hoping that we get an exploration, a more of an exploration of what he would be without the suit, what he can be without the suit.
44:17 --> 44:22 [SPEAKER_10]: But do you want a hero without their iconic get up or whatever?
44:24 --> 44:26 [SPEAKER_14]: In this case, I would like to see it.
44:27 --> 44:27 [SPEAKER_10]: Okay.
44:28 --> 44:30 [SPEAKER_14]: I would like to see it in this case.
44:30 --> 44:33 [SPEAKER_14]: Because that suit has fucked him up.
44:35 --> 44:39 [SPEAKER_14]: And a lot worse ways than it's fucked up by the supposed heroes.
44:40 --> 44:41 [SPEAKER_10]: Right.
44:41 --> 44:41 [SPEAKER_10]: Right.
44:43 --> 44:49 [SPEAKER_10]: So what's it satisfying when Chris shot his father in the head after his father punched Eglay?
44:49 --> 44:51 [SPEAKER_10]: Like that was the last straw for me.
44:52 --> 44:54 [SPEAKER_14]: I mean satisfying.
44:54 --> 44:56 [SPEAKER_14]: I want to say it satisfying for Chris.
44:57 --> 45:00 [SPEAKER_14]: I felt so bad for him that he had to do that.
45:00 --> 45:04 [SPEAKER_14]: You know, I'm of you should kick a K leaders.
45:04 --> 45:05 [SPEAKER_14]: So I'm cool with that.
45:06 --> 45:08 [SPEAKER_14]: But you know, that's his dad.
45:08 --> 45:09 [SPEAKER_14]: That's his father.
45:09 --> 45:19 [SPEAKER_14]: You know, and there's a part of me that's like, man, you know, that's, that is traumatic as well.
45:19 --> 45:26 [SPEAKER_14]: That's something that he's gonna have to, you know, unpack along with all the other stuff that his father put him through.
45:26 --> 45:38 [SPEAKER_14]: Now his father put him through this one last bit of a trussity, a trussity, just a trussous things that a person can do to their child.
45:39 --> 45:40 [SPEAKER_14]: He made him kill him.
45:40 --> 45:47 [SPEAKER_14]: He had no other choice but to do what he did.
45:49 --> 45:51 [SPEAKER_14]: And he's going to have to deal with that.
45:51 --> 45:55 [SPEAKER_14]: So I felt so bad for him in that moment.
45:56 --> 46:01 [SPEAKER_14]: Because I don't know if is, do you get a sense of catharsis?
46:02 --> 46:03 [SPEAKER_14]: Is that a release?
46:03 --> 46:04 [SPEAKER_14]: Is that some sort of joy?
46:04 --> 46:06 [SPEAKER_14]: I don't know if you get, if he gets that.
46:08 --> 46:08 [SPEAKER_10]: Hmm.
46:09 --> 46:12 [SPEAKER_10]: I mean, we saw him at the end of the season.
46:12 --> 46:14 [SPEAKER_10]: He's hallucinating his father.
46:14 --> 46:18 [SPEAKER_10]: So I'm wondering if that's going to be carried over into the new season.
46:19 --> 46:23 [SPEAKER_10]: Or, oh, we know he's also going to interact with other dimensions.
46:24 --> 46:26 [SPEAKER_10]: Maybe dimensions where his father's still alive.
46:26 --> 46:28 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
46:29 --> 46:30 [SPEAKER_10]: Or maybe totally different.
46:31 --> 46:31 [SPEAKER_10]: Maybe.
46:31 --> 46:31 [SPEAKER_14]: Maybe.
46:33 --> 46:37 [SPEAKER_10]: Well, okay, so that's the worst thing about peacemakers as father.
46:37 --> 46:40 [SPEAKER_10]: The best thing about peacemaker is equally sidekick.
46:42 --> 46:48 [SPEAKER_10]: Although his vigilante puts it, peacemakers biggest fault is that he consistently overestimates eglisabilities.
46:51 --> 46:56 [SPEAKER_10]: So why do we love the potato chip loving human hugging eagle?
46:57 --> 47:00 [SPEAKER_14]: I mean, the eagle hug human.
47:00 --> 47:02 [SPEAKER_14]: That's a miracle.
47:03 --> 47:04 [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, that's it.
47:05 --> 47:13 [SPEAKER_14]: You know, but eagle is, you know, if eagle is intelligent or not, in a way that we think of intelligence.
47:13 --> 47:16 [SPEAKER_14]: Like is he following orders?
47:17 --> 47:24 [SPEAKER_14]: You know, is he listening to what Chris is saying and actually, you know, doing, you know, is he really just being an eagle, you know?
47:26 --> 47:30 [SPEAKER_10]: I mean, he seems smarter than your average eagle, but I suppose it's like, like, I think.
47:30 --> 47:31 [SPEAKER_14]: He's smarter than your average eagle.
47:32 --> 47:33 [SPEAKER_10]: It's like great time.
47:34 --> 47:36 [SPEAKER_10]: Everyone's so.
47:36 --> 47:45 [SPEAKER_10]: We get like sometimes eagle he has cat vibes or sometimes eagle he's like writing in the car like a dog with his head out the window and tongue lollin' in the wind.
47:46 --> 47:54 [SPEAKER_10]: You have a very cat-like and the like, you know, eagerly-like potato chips, but then when eagerly goes to hunt, eagerly keeps trying to share his food with Chris.
47:54 --> 47:56 [SPEAKER_10]: And he's like, no, thanks.
47:56 --> 47:59 [SPEAKER_10]: I don't eat raw rotons, but thank you.
48:05 --> 48:16 [SPEAKER_10]: So who do you think that after eagerly is vigilante, piece maker second best friend, or is autobiopiece maker second best friend?
48:17 --> 48:41 [SPEAKER_14]: whole, but I think it's out of bio because I think I think him and vigilante are still working out that bullshit, you know, metro man crap, you know, letting you tell that in to our feelings, you know, can't tell, can't let you see me cry bullshit, that a lot of men do.
48:41 --> 48:46 [SPEAKER_14]: So I don't know how close they are yet, but I think that's a friendship that they're working on.
48:47 --> 49:01 [SPEAKER_14]: when I feel that he can be generally intimate and vulnerable with out of aisle.
49:02 --> 49:07 [SPEAKER_14]: I see their relationship as being more open than he is with vigilante.
49:08 --> 49:09 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
49:10 --> 49:11 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, I think that he feels more.
49:11 --> 49:14 [SPEAKER_10]: He doesn't have to put on a facade for her.
49:14 --> 49:14 [SPEAKER_14]: Right.
49:15 --> 49:15 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
49:16 --> 49:23 [SPEAKER_10]: And so Leo to autobioplay by Danielle Brooks is the newest kid who joins a team at the start of the season.
49:23 --> 49:31 [SPEAKER_10]: We find out she recently lost her job at an animal shelter that closed and she got this one because she is Amanda Waller's daughter.
49:31 --> 49:35 [SPEAKER_10]: which is a secret from the rest of the team for most of the season.
49:36 --> 49:40 [SPEAKER_10]: It is interesting that she took her wife's last name.
49:40 --> 49:42 [SPEAKER_10]: That's why she's not Leo to Waller.
49:42 --> 49:44 [SPEAKER_10]: She's Leo to add a bio, her wife's Kia.
49:45 --> 49:51 [SPEAKER_10]: Do you think should we read it all into the fact that she dropped the Waller last name?
49:51 --> 49:57 [SPEAKER_14]: I actually didn't until I read, you know, your wonderful document.
49:58 --> 50:00 [SPEAKER_14]: I didn't think about that before.
50:01 --> 50:03 [SPEAKER_14]: And I'm not sure where I land with that.
50:06 --> 50:09 [SPEAKER_14]: Because how many people know how bad wall there is?
50:12 --> 50:14 [SPEAKER_10]: I mean, theoda knows.
50:14 --> 50:16 [SPEAKER_10]: So I guess that's all that matters, right?
50:16 --> 50:22 [SPEAKER_14]: No, but is she hiding from the team or is she hiding from the world?
50:22 --> 50:23 [SPEAKER_14]: Like, it doesn't matter.
50:24 --> 50:24 [SPEAKER_10]: Right.
50:24 --> 50:28 [SPEAKER_10]: I mean, but I'm maybe I'm saying maybe she's also hiding it a bit from herself.
50:28 --> 50:32 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.
50:32 --> 50:32 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.
50:32 --> 50:33 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know yet.
50:33 --> 50:33 [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
50:33 --> 50:34 [SPEAKER_10]: I'm in the side of this one.
50:37 --> 50:44 [SPEAKER_10]: I am worried about her and her wife Kia after the strain last season put on them.
50:44 --> 50:48 [SPEAKER_10]: And I hope that it doesn't affect their adorable dogs, one who likes to wear costumes.
50:48 --> 50:50 [SPEAKER_10]: Do you think any dog likes to wear costumes?
50:51 --> 50:51 [SPEAKER_14]: Yes.
50:52 --> 50:53 [SPEAKER_10]: Okay.
50:55 --> 50:56 [SPEAKER_10]: I can tell you my cats do not.
50:56 --> 50:57 [SPEAKER_10]: I have tried.
50:57 --> 51:00 [SPEAKER_14]: You tried.
51:02 --> 51:05 [SPEAKER_14]: I don't live in cats being cat costume orders.
51:06 --> 51:09 [SPEAKER_10]: No, no, they just immediately like off on the ground.
51:09 --> 51:12 [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, I don't think cats on their type of pet.
51:14 --> 51:17 [SPEAKER_10]: But Shadow, if you put bat wings on her, she looks just like that.
51:23 --> 51:35 [SPEAKER_10]: Okay, so we said, you know, Leota and Adabayo and Chris, they might be the central relationship of the season, their friendship.
51:35 --> 51:40 [SPEAKER_10]: But then, what do we think about that kink in the road with the planted diary?
51:40 --> 51:44 [SPEAKER_14]: I mean, she's doing what her mom asked her to do, right?
51:47 --> 51:49 [SPEAKER_10]: But yeah, she knows who her mom is.
51:49 --> 51:50 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, well, she does.
51:53 --> 51:56 [SPEAKER_10]: She does eventually say that's enough mom.
51:57 --> 51:57 [SPEAKER_10]: Right.
51:57 --> 51:59 [SPEAKER_14]: Just like Christopher does, you know?
51:59 --> 52:01 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
52:02 --> 52:05 [SPEAKER_10]: Sorry, it's reminding me of just released the Gilded Age episode.
52:05 --> 52:08 [SPEAKER_10]: And we just talked about Felicia Vashod, played a character on this.
52:08 --> 52:08 [SPEAKER_10]: Okay.
52:08 --> 52:09 [SPEAKER_10]: The Gilded Age.
52:09 --> 52:10 [SPEAKER_14]: I'm no watch.
52:10 --> 52:11 [SPEAKER_10]: Sorry.
52:12 --> 52:13 [SPEAKER_10]: Oh, maybe I shouldn't say.
52:13 --> 52:15 [SPEAKER_14]: You can say you can say
52:16 --> 52:22 [SPEAKER_10]: Okay, so quick spoiler for the season finale of, but she gets everyone gives her a talk into in the end.
52:22 --> 52:26 [SPEAKER_10]: She's been constantly all, and then she says, woman.
52:28 --> 52:28 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, anyway.
52:31 --> 52:38 [SPEAKER_10]: What do we think about, yeah, she had some hidden martial art skills in her, autobiography.
52:38 --> 52:40 [SPEAKER_14]: I'm not surprised about that.
52:40 --> 52:49 [SPEAKER_14]: She is well as daughter, but, you know, I'm sure, I'm sure water had her train from her early age to do things like this.
52:50 --> 52:54 [SPEAKER_10]: Like other kids were doing after school soccer.
52:54 --> 52:58 [SPEAKER_10]: And she's like, here's your combat course.
52:58 --> 52:59 [SPEAKER_10]: Yes, exactly.
52:59 --> 53:02 [SPEAKER_14]: Learn how to take some wind down with just a pencil.
53:03 --> 53:05 [SPEAKER_14]: And a paperclip, damn it.
53:08 --> 53:09 [SPEAKER_10]: I would love to see.
53:09 --> 53:11 [SPEAKER_10]: I do hope we get flashbacks of her childhood.
53:11 --> 53:14 [SPEAKER_10]: I think it would be very interesting to see what kind of mother Amanda Waller is.
53:16 --> 53:35 [SPEAKER_10]: All right, so that brings us to peace makers, other best friend Adrian Chase aka vigilante played by Freddie Stroma and he was this at character was actually recast halfway through filming or even more than halfway through like after they had done six episodes because gun says
53:36 --> 53:43 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, we had already shot five and a half episodes with another actor who's an incredibly talented guy, but we were on different pages about certain things.
53:44 --> 53:47 [SPEAKER_10]: And I don't think he wanted to continue on the series in the long run.
53:47 --> 53:51 [SPEAKER_10]: So we brought Freddy in five and a half episodes in and I reshot all of his scenes.
53:52 --> 54:02 [SPEAKER_10]: Although episodes one through five and parts of eight, if we only see the suit, it's probably the previous actor inside and then they dubbed Freddy's drama's voice over it.
54:03 --> 54:05 [SPEAKER_10]: Which I think turned out well.
54:05 --> 54:06 [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, I didn't know.
54:07 --> 54:07 [SPEAKER_14]: I didn't.
54:07 --> 54:08 [SPEAKER_14]: Couldn't tell.
54:09 --> 54:11 [SPEAKER_10]: Oh, yeah, because it's all about the delivery.
54:12 --> 54:12 [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, come and tell.
54:13 --> 54:15 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
54:15 --> 54:28 [SPEAKER_10]: Um, at what point in your first watch, did you realize that the little brother of got Chase, who's a boss boy at an Italian restaurant, friend of fields, um, was vigilante.
54:30 --> 54:30 [SPEAKER_10]: Oh, man.
54:31 --> 54:32 [SPEAKER_14]: I think my third.
54:33 --> 54:34 [SPEAKER_10]: third episode.
54:34 --> 54:34 [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah.
54:36 --> 54:36 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
54:37 --> 54:38 [SPEAKER_10]: Um, I think about a third.
54:39 --> 54:54 [SPEAKER_10]: I think I've recognized his voice at some time or I guess after I guess I realized it when they did that scene where he's he's talking he's like getting so awkward with the other guy he works with and then he kind of invites the guys to his abortion.
54:54 --> 54:57 [SPEAKER_10]: He's not an resistant abortion that he was
54:59 --> 55:01 [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, he's making us back, baby.
55:01 --> 55:03 [SPEAKER_08]: It's working, and it's working.
55:03 --> 55:04 [SPEAKER_08]: Get my little tissue.
55:05 --> 55:08 [SPEAKER_08]: It's my famous butt dance, my butt dance.
55:08 --> 55:09 [SPEAKER_08]: It's my famous butt.
55:09 --> 55:10 [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, hey, man.
55:11 --> 55:11 [SPEAKER_07]: It's up.
55:12 --> 55:14 [SPEAKER_07]: Sup, Adrian.
55:14 --> 55:16 [SPEAKER_07]: Hey, the reason I'm excited is normal.
55:17 --> 55:18 [SPEAKER_07]: I just found out this girl that I'm seeing.
55:19 --> 55:20 [SPEAKER_07]: She's pregnant, you know.
55:22 --> 55:23 [SPEAKER_16]: You got a good girlfriend?
55:24 --> 55:25 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
55:25 --> 55:27 [SPEAKER_07]: Her name is Sharon Osborn.
55:29 --> 55:29 [SPEAKER_07]: Not the one that you may know.
55:30 --> 55:31 [SPEAKER_07]: She's a different one.
55:32 --> 55:34 [SPEAKER_07]: Why are you trying to get me to set you up with my cousin?
55:35 --> 55:37 [SPEAKER_07]: Well, I wouldn't say a girl friend.
55:38 --> 55:38 [SPEAKER_07]: You're happy.
55:39 --> 55:39 [SPEAKER_07]: She's pregnant.
55:40 --> 55:40 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
55:41 --> 55:43 [SPEAKER_07]: Because we are going to have an abortion.
55:46 --> 55:47 [SPEAKER_07]: Thank you.
55:47 --> 55:47 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
55:48 --> 55:50 [SPEAKER_07]: Hey, you're invited if you want.
55:50 --> 55:53 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to come to your abortion, man.
55:54 --> 55:55 [SPEAKER_07]: That's cool.
55:55 --> 55:56 [SPEAKER_07]: Congratulations.
56:00 --> 56:02 [SPEAKER_10]: I think we might be meeting his mom and brother in season two by the way.
56:02 --> 56:03 [SPEAKER_14]: Oh, I'm afraid of that.
56:06 --> 56:07 [SPEAKER_14]: I'm fearful for that.
56:09 --> 56:11 [SPEAKER_14]: I just want to meet a nice set of parents.
56:11 --> 56:17 [SPEAKER_14]: You know, it's just normal, you know, regular foe who just love their children.
56:17 --> 56:20 [SPEAKER_10]: And you think they realize what he is?
56:21 --> 56:21 [SPEAKER_14]: No.
56:23 --> 56:25 [SPEAKER_14]: No, I, you know what, let me not say no.
56:26 --> 56:32 [SPEAKER_14]: They probably do know that he's, you know, like they may suspect he's some sort of serial killer.
56:34 --> 56:35 [SPEAKER_14]: He gets off that vibe.
56:36 --> 56:43 [SPEAKER_14]: So growing up, I'm sure he had something like in his childhood that set off some sort of alarms for his friends.
56:44 --> 56:45 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
56:46 --> 56:47 [SPEAKER_14]: But we got to keep an eye on this one.
56:48 --> 57:02 [SPEAKER_10]: But it is interesting that he, so he is, I feel comfortable calling him a sociopath, but, I mean clinically, but also I've met a good number of sociopaths in my life.
57:04 --> 57:15 [SPEAKER_10]: But no, I mean, we all have, but because I studied psychology, I know people who were diagnosed, including my favorite psychology professor from college.
57:15 --> 57:23 [SPEAKER_10]: And he, yeah, he would say, and I even took a course from him about serial killers, so we got a bit deeper into it there.
57:23 --> 57:24 [SPEAKER_10]: But he would say that, you know,
57:25 --> 57:49 [SPEAKER_10]: Yes, he is a sociopath and he does not experience empathy the same way that say I do or you do but he lives by his own self-prescribed code of honor like for him it's a it's a test or a you know a challenge like I will follow these rules of morality that I have set for myself and
57:50 --> 57:54 [SPEAKER_10]: I think I know that that happens more often than people realize.
57:55 --> 58:02 [SPEAKER_10]: And it's interesting to see vigilante does have that to a certain degree, which is that his includes killing, whereas I feel comfortable saying my college professor is not.
58:06 --> 58:11 [SPEAKER_10]: But you know, we see, but he does have some twisted love for peacemaker.
58:11 --> 58:16 [SPEAKER_10]: You know, enters a prison to kill his father because he thinks it'll help peacemaker.
58:16 --> 58:26 [SPEAKER_10]: And what did you think of that whole prison scene and the talking to that he gave to the KKK crew in the prison before he kicked all their asses?
58:27 --> 58:30 [SPEAKER_14]: I was just more invested in the kicking of the asses of the cake cake.
58:30 --> 58:32 [SPEAKER_14]: You know, I'm not going to lie to you.
58:33 --> 58:35 [SPEAKER_14]: I'm not going to hold anyone here.
58:35 --> 58:42 [SPEAKER_14]: I was a really gave out was he gave them a nice little speech, but I was more invested in the foot test.
58:42 --> 58:44 [SPEAKER_14]: That was more interesting.
58:44 --> 58:48 [SPEAKER_10]: I love a good verbal ass kicking and so he gave him a good verbal ass kicking.
58:48 --> 58:49 [SPEAKER_10]: He did.
58:49 --> 58:49 [SPEAKER_14]: He did.
58:49 --> 58:50 [SPEAKER_14]: He did.
58:52 --> 59:04 [SPEAKER_10]: Oh, just to say James getting a confirms that the joke about his family being dead in the season one credit season one credit scenes are outtakes not cannons so just FYI so his family's not dead
59:05 --> 59:12 [SPEAKER_10]: Um, what I love about vigilante most is that he basically was just like, I want to hang out with my buddy, peacemaker.
59:12 --> 59:18 [SPEAKER_10]: So I'm just going to follow him to work to this black ops team, you know, supposed to be completely off the grid.
59:19 --> 59:25 [SPEAKER_10]: And just because he's not afraid to get his hands dirty, wall or shrugs and it's like, fine, let him go.
59:25 --> 59:25 [SPEAKER_14]: Okay.
59:27 --> 59:31 [SPEAKER_14]: I put a bomb in his head and his neck at some point is fine.
59:32 --> 59:33 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, I guess that's true.
59:33 --> 59:38 [SPEAKER_10]: She's like better to know where he is and what he's doing and just have him out there.
59:40 --> 59:43 [SPEAKER_10]: Did you feel bad for him when the butterfly tortured him?
59:43 --> 59:44 [SPEAKER_10]: I did.
59:44 --> 59:44 [SPEAKER_10]: I did.
59:44 --> 59:46 [SPEAKER_10]: Took off his half his pinky toe.
59:46 --> 59:47 [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, I did.
59:47 --> 59:48 [SPEAKER_14]: I did.
59:48 --> 59:49 [SPEAKER_14]: I didn't.
59:49 --> 59:51 [SPEAKER_10]: I wanted to know you don't need it for walking.
59:51 --> 59:52 [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, I just knew it.
59:52 --> 59:58 [SPEAKER_14]: I mean, you know, he's not cake-a-k, so I just, you know, you know, they want to be tortured.
59:58 --> 01:00:00 [SPEAKER_10]: He's a psycho, but he's not racist.
01:00:00 --> 01:00:01 [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, exactly.
01:00:03 --> 01:00:04 [SPEAKER_10]: I like the nuance in the show.
01:00:05 --> 01:00:06 [SPEAKER_10]: It's different kinds of all.
01:00:10 --> 01:00:28 [SPEAKER_10]: Um, yeah, I mean, he just like, he's a man childhood and a lot of ways to, you know, he doesn't think things through, uh, we also like, or he overthinks things, uh, like the whole thing where he taped the jar that golf was in to himself and then breaks it during the bungalow police raid.
01:00:28 --> 01:00:29 [SPEAKER_14]: That's good.
01:00:29 --> 01:00:29 [SPEAKER_14]: That's gracious.
01:00:30 --> 01:00:33 [SPEAKER_10]: Do you think he literally believes everything peace maker says?
01:00:33 --> 01:00:33 [SPEAKER_14]: Yes.
01:00:35 --> 01:00:36 [SPEAKER_10]: like the whole face exercises.
01:00:36 --> 01:00:45 [SPEAKER_14]: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, he will do clearly whatever piece of makeup is asking about.
01:00:45 --> 01:00:51 [SPEAKER_10]: Oh, do you have any other thoughts about peacemaker and his besties?
01:00:52 --> 01:00:54 [SPEAKER_14]: No, that's pretty much it.
01:00:55 --> 01:00:58 [SPEAKER_14]: I want to see where their relationships go and season two.
01:00:58 --> 01:01:07 [SPEAKER_14]: Okay, so I'm excited for that to see if they, especially him in the vigilante, if they can, you know, get past all the metro bullshit.
01:01:08 --> 01:01:09 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
01:01:09 --> 01:01:10 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
01:01:10 --> 01:01:13 [SPEAKER_10]: It'd be interesting to see a vigilante grows in any way.
01:01:14 --> 01:01:14 [SPEAKER_10]: What that would look like.
01:01:16 --> 01:01:16 [SPEAKER_10]: All right.
01:01:16 --> 01:01:20 [SPEAKER_10]: Well, let's take a quick break here and when we come back, we're going to talk about the rest of the team.
01:01:20 --> 01:01:21 [SPEAKER_10]: See you in a sec.
01:01:36 --> 01:01:44 [SPEAKER_10]: Alright, let's talk about the new defective leader of the team, Amelia Harcourt, played by Jennifer Holland, James Gunn's real-life wife.
01:01:44 --> 01:01:57 [SPEAKER_10]: She also appeared as a character in the suicide squad, Black Adam and Shazam II in the DCEU, but I think I feel very comfortable saying Black Adam and Shazam II are not canon.
01:01:57 --> 01:01:58 [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, I don't think they are.
01:01:59 --> 01:02:03 [SPEAKER_10]: And, yeah, named, she was named the leader once Murn died.
01:02:03 --> 01:02:04 [SPEAKER_10]: We'll talk about Murn in a second.
01:02:05 --> 01:02:14 [SPEAKER_10]: But I like that she was chosen by the team before, like, Waller eventually was like, you got to take over before that, the team chose her.
01:02:14 --> 01:02:15 [SPEAKER_10]: And I think that's what I mean.
01:02:15 --> 01:02:15 [SPEAKER_10]: Cool.
01:02:15 --> 01:02:16 [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, definitely.
01:02:17 --> 01:02:17 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
01:02:18 --> 01:02:21 [SPEAKER_10]: What do you, what are your overall thoughts on Amelia Hawker?
01:02:21 --> 01:02:22 [SPEAKER_14]: I don't, I don't really like it.
01:02:22 --> 01:02:23 [SPEAKER_14]: No.
01:02:23 --> 01:02:24 [SPEAKER_14]: Oh, everything that's what I know.
01:02:24 --> 01:02:25 [SPEAKER_10]: No.
01:02:25 --> 01:02:26 [SPEAKER_14]: No, I don't know.
01:02:26 --> 01:02:27 [SPEAKER_14]: There's something about it.
01:02:27 --> 01:02:30 [SPEAKER_14]: It's, it's, bugs me the wrong way.
01:02:30 --> 01:02:31 [SPEAKER_14]: I don't know what it is.
01:02:31 --> 01:02:33 [SPEAKER_14]: I don't know what it is.
01:02:34 --> 01:02:36 [SPEAKER_14]: I think she's, she's good at what she does.
01:02:36 --> 01:02:37 [SPEAKER_14]: You know what I mean?
01:02:38 --> 01:02:39 [SPEAKER_14]: I think she's totally badass.
01:02:41 --> 01:02:50 [SPEAKER_14]: But there's, I don't know, there's, yeah, I don't know if it's Jennifer Hallin herself or if it's familiar or awkward.
01:02:51 --> 01:02:53 [SPEAKER_14]: That I'm just not vibing with at this point.
01:02:54 --> 01:02:56 [SPEAKER_10]: I mean, she's, she's a loner.
01:02:57 --> 01:02:59 [SPEAKER_10]: She likes to drink alone in a bar to wind down.
01:02:59 --> 01:02:59 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
01:03:00 --> 01:03:00 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
01:03:02 --> 01:03:07 [SPEAKER_10]: I think, yeah, she, the character has trouble bonding with people.
01:03:08 --> 01:03:12 [SPEAKER_10]: She before vigilante joined, she and Chris, we're going to be the only muscle.
01:03:12 --> 01:03:14 [SPEAKER_10]: So I think they got vigilante.
01:03:14 --> 01:03:15 [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, definitely.
01:03:16 --> 01:03:16 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
01:03:18 --> 01:03:23 [SPEAKER_10]: And you know, she's the object of Chris's affection, but yeah, he just keeps him a such anistic shit to her.
01:03:23 --> 01:03:32 [SPEAKER_10]: But then at the end, when she got seriously hurt and she had to like learn how to re-walk at the very end of the season, he was spending all the time.
01:03:32 --> 01:03:33 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
01:03:33 --> 01:03:34 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
01:03:34 --> 01:03:34 [SPEAKER_10]: Waiting for her.
01:03:35 --> 01:03:37 [SPEAKER_10]: And she reached out and held his hand.
01:03:38 --> 01:03:38 [SPEAKER_10]: But I don't know.
01:03:38 --> 01:03:39 [SPEAKER_10]: What do you think?
01:03:39 --> 01:03:43 [SPEAKER_10]: Is that the start of a romance or is that just a thank you for being with us?
01:03:44 --> 01:03:49 [SPEAKER_14]: I don't, I can't see either one of them being romantic with anyone.
01:03:50 --> 01:03:52 [SPEAKER_14]: It's not just peacemaker.
01:03:54 --> 01:04:01 [SPEAKER_14]: Her, Amelia too, I just, they don't seem like the type of people who will do well in relationships.
01:04:02 --> 01:04:04 [SPEAKER_10]: Maybe that makes them perfect for each other.
01:04:04 --> 01:04:05 [SPEAKER_10]: No, probably next to the unclean.
01:04:08 --> 01:04:09 [SPEAKER_05]: Hmm.
01:04:09 --> 01:04:10 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, no.
01:04:10 --> 01:04:14 [SPEAKER_10]: Maybe that's also what another thing he's attracted to about her.
01:04:15 --> 01:04:22 [SPEAKER_14]: Maybe, maybe, but it's just, you know, I just get like everybody in the show has their cars up.
01:04:22 --> 01:04:35 [SPEAKER_14]: They all have their, you know, shields and masks that they wear, whether it's literal or not, just, yeah, just I'm finding it hard to break through to Amelia.
01:04:36 --> 01:04:36 [SPEAKER_10]: Hmm.
01:04:37 --> 01:04:41 [SPEAKER_10]: Okay, I'm curious to see you.
01:04:43 --> 01:04:50 [SPEAKER_10]: I mean, I think she's, you know, I didn't list her as one of my favorite characters, but it may be if I had listed like a fourth, it would be her.
01:04:50 --> 01:04:57 [SPEAKER_10]: I think I think she's an interesting character that we haven't gotten to see much of yet.
01:04:58 --> 01:05:02 [SPEAKER_10]: You know, we've gotten to see her armor up.
01:05:02 --> 01:05:10 [SPEAKER_10]: And then we only really, like she was only shaken out of that armor at the end when she was so deeply physically wounded.
01:05:10 --> 01:05:10 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
01:05:12 --> 01:05:14 [SPEAKER_10]: So I think it'll be interesting to see in season two.
01:05:14 --> 01:05:21 [SPEAKER_10]: And also to see if I don't know if we're gonna see alternate universe versions of her, I think we might.
01:05:22 --> 01:05:27 [SPEAKER_10]: And that will be interesting to see how that differs and what would cause the difference and things like that.
01:05:27 --> 01:05:34 [SPEAKER_10]: So we know she's been the character, has been trained on weapons, what she says and she was like, fourteen or something.
01:05:40 --> 01:05:41 [SPEAKER_11]: How did you get into this line of work?
01:05:42 --> 01:05:43 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, man, I guess.
01:05:43 --> 01:05:44 [SPEAKER_11]: Well, the hats.
01:05:45 --> 01:05:48 [SPEAKER_11]: Mine got me my first clock when I was twelve.
01:05:49 --> 01:05:50 [SPEAKER_11]: Twenty.
01:05:50 --> 01:05:51 [SPEAKER_11]: Twenty?
01:05:51 --> 01:05:53 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a lot of good for the girl.
01:05:54 --> 01:05:56 [SPEAKER_11]: Now, it was a lot of little girl for a gun.
01:05:56 --> 01:05:58 [SPEAKER_02]: I did the working for Walden.
01:05:58 --> 01:05:59 [SPEAKER_11]: What is this twine questions?
01:06:02 --> 01:06:03 [SPEAKER_11]: After high school, I joined the CIA.
01:06:03 --> 01:06:06 [SPEAKER_11]: I spent a couple years in the DEO, then our guess.
01:06:06 --> 01:06:07 [SPEAKER_11]: That's where Walden found me.
01:06:07 --> 01:06:09 [SPEAKER_11]: Right now.
01:06:15 --> 01:06:24 [SPEAKER_10]: So fun fact I learned from the James gun pod is that there was an earlier like the earliest versions of the script.
01:06:24 --> 01:06:34 [SPEAKER_10]: He was toying with the idea of making golf in love with piecemaker and then at the end when she almost got butterflied.
01:06:35 --> 01:06:42 [SPEAKER_10]: It might have actually been golf taking over her body for, and then the second season was going to be golf as hardcore.
01:06:43 --> 01:06:44 [SPEAKER_14]: Oh.
01:06:45 --> 01:06:46 [SPEAKER_14]: Oh, that would have been interesting.
01:06:47 --> 01:06:51 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, but out of bio saves her, so she's better fly free.
01:06:51 --> 01:06:55 [SPEAKER_10]: And I think we'll talk about the butterflies in minute, but I think we're done with the butterflies.
01:06:57 --> 01:06:59 [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, I don't, I don't envision them coming back.
01:06:59 --> 01:07:01 [SPEAKER_10]: No, they made clear foods gone.
01:07:01 --> 01:07:02 [SPEAKER_10]: They're going to die.
01:07:04 --> 01:07:08 [SPEAKER_10]: Um, what do you think of John Economos play by Steve Aegee?
01:07:08 --> 01:07:12 [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, I thought he much needed, uh, before.
01:07:12 --> 01:07:22 [SPEAKER_14]: You know, in a room for the killers, you mean somebody was not, and he's definitely about a killer.
01:07:23 --> 01:07:24 [SPEAKER_10]: But he did kill a lot of people.
01:07:25 --> 01:07:27 [SPEAKER_14]: He did, but he's not a killer.
01:07:27 --> 01:07:28 [SPEAKER_14]: He's not a killer.
01:07:28 --> 01:07:29 [SPEAKER_14]: He killed people.
01:07:29 --> 01:07:30 [SPEAKER_14]: I mean, you're killer.
01:07:34 --> 01:07:37 [SPEAKER_14]: So yeah, I really enjoyed him.
01:07:37 --> 01:07:38 [SPEAKER_14]: I like him.
01:07:38 --> 01:07:50 [SPEAKER_14]: I think he made me laugh the most out of the characters and not because he was saying outrageous things just because the character, you know, I know.
01:07:51 --> 01:07:54 [SPEAKER_14]: who's active at plays on Steve, Steve, agey?
01:07:55 --> 01:08:08 [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, I just really enjoyed watching him on screen, navigate all these disparate personalities and, you know, psychos in his midst just really cool shit.
01:08:10 --> 01:08:10 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
01:08:11 --> 01:08:17 [SPEAKER_10]: I mean, he really bungled some things in terms of, like, yes.
01:08:17 --> 01:08:28 [SPEAKER_10]: It's funny because he has, you know, he frames August for the first butterfly death, which on the one hand, it's like, yeah, let's frame the KKK guy.
01:08:28 --> 01:08:32 [SPEAKER_10]: On the other hand, it's like, that's literally peacemakers father come on.
01:08:32 --> 01:08:34 [SPEAKER_10]: We're trying to get this sentence away from us.
01:08:35 --> 01:08:38 [SPEAKER_10]: But then he goes, he has like a series of wins.
01:08:38 --> 01:08:41 [SPEAKER_10]: He captures Judo Master and then he loses him.
01:08:42 --> 01:08:45 [SPEAKER_10]: He changed Saul's Charlie, the butterfly gorilla.
01:08:45 --> 01:08:54 [SPEAKER_10]: He meet machine guns down the rest of the KKK, other than Augie, which I guess may be is in a way cleaning up his own mess from the frame job.
01:08:55 --> 01:08:56 [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, thanks so.
01:08:56 --> 01:08:57 [SPEAKER_14]: Definitely thanks so.
01:08:57 --> 01:09:01 [SPEAKER_10]: But then he ends his season, breaking his leg, tripping over a fence.
01:09:03 --> 01:09:06 [SPEAKER_10]: We see him on crutches and creature commandos because of that.
01:09:06 --> 01:09:09 [SPEAKER_10]: So maybe we'll see if his legs healed, I guess so.
01:09:10 --> 01:09:13 [SPEAKER_10]: Would you think of the dive beer through line?
01:09:17 --> 01:09:18 [SPEAKER_14]: Man, listen.
01:09:18 --> 01:09:21 [SPEAKER_14]: You got a, you want, lift the man dies, babe.
01:09:21 --> 01:09:23 [SPEAKER_14]: I'm not, I'm not going judge anybody.
01:09:23 --> 01:09:25 [SPEAKER_14]: I'm not going judge anybody.
01:09:25 --> 01:09:26 [SPEAKER_14]: I'm not going judge anybody.
01:09:26 --> 01:09:27 [SPEAKER_14]: I'm not going judge anybody.
01:09:28 --> 01:09:32 [SPEAKER_14]: You know, let it go, but if you don't want to let it go, let's your choice, man.
01:09:33 --> 01:09:37 [SPEAKER_14]: You know, I'm not going to shame him for getting that done.
01:09:38 --> 01:09:38 [SPEAKER_14]: Just do it.
01:09:38 --> 01:09:39 [SPEAKER_14]: It's okay.
01:09:40 --> 01:09:44 [SPEAKER_14]: However, you want to present yourself, go ahead and do it.
01:09:45 --> 01:09:49 [SPEAKER_10]: I like that it was like this, you know, peacemaker is a bully.
01:09:50 --> 01:09:55 [SPEAKER_10]: And he was bullying him as he bullies everyone about this divier thing.
01:09:55 --> 01:09:58 [SPEAKER_10]: And then it's just this joke that kept coming back.
01:09:58 --> 01:10:03 [SPEAKER_10]: And then I liked how it turned into this really emotional moment for economists when
01:10:04 --> 01:10:14 [SPEAKER_10]: Um, he's pretending to be one of the butterflies, and they just, one of the other butterflies is like, hey, why does that guy who's body-yrian dies beard?
01:10:14 --> 01:10:23 [SPEAKER_10]: And he has to be honest about it because, uh, a butterfly would be honest, and they'll be suspicious and kill him if, you know, he tries to hide it.
01:10:23 --> 01:10:32 [SPEAKER_10]: But he knows, peace maker and the rest of the team is listening while he gives this emotional confession about like never having a girlfriend and all this, oh my gosh.
01:10:32 --> 01:10:34 [SPEAKER_15]: We need to get the fuck out of here.
01:10:34 --> 01:10:35 [SPEAKER_15]: Hey!
01:10:36 --> 01:10:36 [SPEAKER_15]: Fuck!
01:10:37 --> 01:10:39 [SPEAKER_15]: The man you've taken over.
01:10:39 --> 01:10:41 [SPEAKER_15]: Why did he do that to his beard?
01:10:43 --> 01:10:43 [SPEAKER_09]: Do what?
01:10:44 --> 01:10:44 [SPEAKER_09]: Why did he?
01:10:45 --> 01:10:47 [SPEAKER_15]: Color is beard all strange like that.
01:10:51 --> 01:10:54 [SPEAKER_17]: He thought it made him look younger and more handsome.
01:10:56 --> 01:11:00 [SPEAKER_18]: He never had a girlfriend so he thought dying his beard might help.
01:11:02 --> 01:11:06 [SPEAKER_17]: But he was also lazy and busy with his job.
01:11:06 --> 01:11:10 [SPEAKER_17]: And he wouldn't die his roots regularly.
01:11:10 --> 01:11:16 [SPEAKER_18]: The only thing he did is the cheapest brand because he was incredibly underpaid.
01:11:20 --> 01:11:21 [SPEAKER_17]: Mostly, though.
01:11:23 --> 01:11:25 [SPEAKER_17]: He never thought anybody noticed.
01:11:26 --> 01:11:27 [SPEAKER_18]: Until recently,
01:11:30 --> 01:11:32 [SPEAKER_18]: when one guy said it to him all the time.
01:11:34 --> 01:11:37 [SPEAKER_15]: Humans can be really pathetic.
01:11:38 --> 01:11:38 [SPEAKER_15]: Yeah.
01:11:42 --> 01:11:47 [SPEAKER_10]: It was such an unexpected emotional payoff to this running joke.
01:11:47 --> 01:11:47 [SPEAKER_10]: I'll see.
01:11:48 --> 01:11:48 [SPEAKER_05]: Great.
01:11:49 --> 01:11:52 [SPEAKER_10]: I'm curious to see whether he dies as beer better next season.
01:11:55 --> 01:11:59 [SPEAKER_10]: What do you think was the biggest surprise of this season?
01:11:59 --> 01:12:04 [SPEAKER_10]: And why is it when we found out that Clemson Murn was actually a butterfly?
01:12:06 --> 01:12:08 [SPEAKER_14]: because I didn't see a comment.
01:12:09 --> 01:12:11 [SPEAKER_14]: I mean, I didn't suspect it.
01:12:12 --> 01:12:15 [SPEAKER_14]: There was nothing, I had no inkling of it.
01:12:15 --> 01:12:19 [SPEAKER_14]: I had, yeah, I just was shocked.
01:12:20 --> 01:12:21 [SPEAKER_14]: I literally said, oh shit.
01:12:21 --> 01:12:24 [SPEAKER_14]: Wow, I was watching that episode where it was revealed.
01:12:25 --> 01:12:30 [SPEAKER_14]: So just, yeah, they did it well, they hit it well.
01:12:33 --> 01:12:38 [SPEAKER_10]: I liked the X-ray helmet reveal where, um, out of bio.
01:12:38 --> 01:12:39 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
01:12:39 --> 01:12:42 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, just tries on the helmet as a, uh, whoop.
01:12:42 --> 01:12:44 [SPEAKER_10]: Now I see a butterfly in your head.
01:12:45 --> 01:12:52 [SPEAKER_10]: Uh, I'm going to miss this season, Chikudi Uji, the actor who played Clemson Murn or actually we should say the butterfly.
01:12:52 --> 01:12:54 [SPEAKER_10]: It can nobu lock.
01:12:55 --> 01:12:59 [SPEAKER_10]: We never actually met the real Murn, but apparently he sucked.
01:13:00 --> 01:13:01 [SPEAKER_10]: Yes.
01:13:02 --> 01:13:03 [SPEAKER_10]: He kept saying.
01:13:03 --> 01:13:04 [SPEAKER_14]: This Murn didn't.
01:13:04 --> 01:13:05 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
01:13:05 --> 01:13:06 [SPEAKER_10]: I like Murn.
01:13:07 --> 01:13:09 [SPEAKER_10]: And that's something like it should have tipped us off.
01:13:09 --> 01:13:12 [SPEAKER_10]: I mean, not that it should have been in the rewatch.
01:13:12 --> 01:13:16 [SPEAKER_10]: It's like, yeah, he keeps talking about how he's changed, leading up to their feel.
01:13:16 --> 01:13:17 [SPEAKER_10]: Like, I'm a changed man.
01:13:17 --> 01:13:19 [SPEAKER_10]: Well, yeah, because he's got a butterfly.
01:13:19 --> 01:13:23 [SPEAKER_14]: Because you're not the same person literally, you're not the same person.
01:13:24 --> 01:13:24 [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, I like that.
01:13:24 --> 01:13:25 [SPEAKER_14]: I like the Mario.
01:13:25 --> 01:13:26 [SPEAKER_14]: I like this part.
01:13:26 --> 01:13:26 [SPEAKER_10]: I know.
01:13:26 --> 01:13:27 [SPEAKER_14]: Butterfly and all.
01:13:28 --> 01:13:31 [SPEAKER_10]: Well, he was apparently the one dissident of the butterflies.
01:13:31 --> 01:13:32 [SPEAKER_14]: Butterflies, right?
01:13:33 --> 01:13:40 [SPEAKER_10]: Although, I did look like some of the other butterflies were looking side eye at their leader by the end, like she'd gone too far.
01:13:41 --> 01:13:42 [SPEAKER_14]: Sidebar, have a question.
01:13:43 --> 01:13:43 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
01:13:45 --> 01:13:52 [SPEAKER_14]: The butterflies are taking over or shapeshifters in the show that we should not name.
01:13:54 --> 01:13:56 [SPEAKER_14]: Which one was, which is worse?
01:13:56 --> 01:13:58 [SPEAKER_14]: Which one was better?
01:13:59 --> 01:14:02 [SPEAKER_10]: Oh, better would I rather deal with butterflies taking over or squirrels?
01:14:03 --> 01:14:03 [SPEAKER_14]: Yes.
01:14:07 --> 01:14:07 [SPEAKER_10]: I guess.
01:14:10 --> 01:14:14 [SPEAKER_10]: I mean, the squirrels are that they're killing the people whose places they take.
01:14:16 --> 01:14:18 [SPEAKER_10]: That's my main be for the butterflies.
01:14:20 --> 01:14:32 [SPEAKER_10]: I mean, the scrolls, like, I think the scrolls, as they were presented in the MCU to begin with, they seemed like they were just refugees, but then, yeah, it got more complicated than that.
01:14:32 --> 01:14:39 [SPEAKER_10]: And I don't really know where it ended, whereas the butterflies want to make a peaceful world, but if I have to be dead for it, then I'm not interested.
01:14:39 --> 01:14:40 [SPEAKER_14]: Fuck you butterflies.
01:14:41 --> 01:14:41 [SPEAKER_14]: That's what you see.
01:14:43 --> 01:14:43 [SPEAKER_10]: What are you?
01:14:45 --> 01:14:46 [SPEAKER_14]: Not fuck off butterflies.
01:14:46 --> 01:14:47 [SPEAKER_14]: Get out of here.
01:14:47 --> 01:14:47 [SPEAKER_14]: Keep rocks.
01:14:47 --> 01:14:49 [SPEAKER_14]: I'll knock down the scrolls.
01:14:49 --> 01:14:50 [SPEAKER_14]: It's like, yeah, yeah.
01:14:50 --> 01:14:51 [SPEAKER_14]: Get out of here.
01:14:51 --> 01:14:51 [SPEAKER_14]: Leave it.
01:14:52 --> 01:14:52 [SPEAKER_14]: Keep rocks.
01:14:52 --> 01:14:54 [SPEAKER_14]: But if I'm not messing in my head.
01:14:55 --> 01:14:55 [SPEAKER_05]: Crazy.
01:14:56 --> 01:14:58 [SPEAKER_14]: Get these butterflies out of here, yo.
01:14:59 --> 01:15:03 [SPEAKER_10]: What if it's between becoming a butterfly or a scroll, killing and replacing you?
01:15:04 --> 01:15:04 [SPEAKER_10]: Although they weren't killing them.
01:15:04 --> 01:15:06 [SPEAKER_10]: They were like putting things in the middle.
01:15:06 --> 01:15:07 [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, put them in pods.
01:15:08 --> 01:15:08 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
01:15:09 --> 01:15:10 [SPEAKER_14]: They don't remember.
01:15:10 --> 01:15:10 [SPEAKER_10]: They like that.
01:15:11 --> 01:15:15 [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, put me in a pot and if you have to come back, but I can't come back from dead.
01:15:15 --> 01:15:17 [SPEAKER_10]: No, that's true.
01:15:17 --> 01:15:19 [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, these butterflies are out of here.
01:15:20 --> 01:15:20 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
01:15:21 --> 01:15:23 [SPEAKER_10]: You know, kill their poor cow.
01:15:23 --> 01:15:24 [SPEAKER_10]: They're poor cow.
01:15:25 --> 01:15:27 [SPEAKER_10]: But it didn't look like the cow had a great existence.
01:15:27 --> 01:15:30 [SPEAKER_14]: No, no, no, that was that was active mercy.
01:15:31 --> 01:15:31 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
01:15:35 --> 01:15:43 [SPEAKER_10]: You know, it was a fun, small part of the first season who won't be back because also dead is Murn's ex-buddy who ex like military buddy.
01:15:43 --> 01:15:56 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
01:15:57 --> 01:16:07 [SPEAKER_10]: He was just like, like this scene where the police officers are, you know, he's he's turning on them.
01:16:07 --> 01:16:12 [SPEAKER_10]: And so he's just statistically killing them even though he doesn't necessarily leave.
01:16:12 --> 01:16:15 [SPEAKER_10]: He's like, peace makers, like, that guy was unconscious.
01:16:18 --> 01:16:20 [SPEAKER_10]: And then he made it funny somehow.
01:16:22 --> 01:16:23 [SPEAKER_14]: What did that say about us?
01:16:24 --> 01:16:25 [SPEAKER_14]: I know, I know.
01:16:25 --> 01:16:26 [SPEAKER_14]: That he made it funny.
01:16:29 --> 01:16:30 [SPEAKER_14]: And I agree.
01:16:34 --> 01:16:35 [SPEAKER_03]: What the fuck are we caught up in man?
01:16:35 --> 01:16:37 [SPEAKER_03]: That guy just executed those dudes.
01:16:37 --> 01:16:39 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, how fucking cool was that?
01:16:39 --> 01:16:40 [SPEAKER_03]: Was it cool at all?
01:16:40 --> 01:16:42 [SPEAKER_07]: Well, that's a little judgmental.
01:16:42 --> 01:16:44 [SPEAKER_07]: We're always fucking unconscious, man.
01:16:44 --> 01:16:47 [SPEAKER_07]: Dude, we're saving the world from a fucking alien invasion.
01:16:47 --> 01:16:48 [SPEAKER_07]: It's everything we've ever wanted.
01:16:48 --> 01:16:49 [SPEAKER_07]: That would I want it.
01:16:49 --> 01:16:59 [SPEAKER_10]: Apparently, I was just reading a study today that was saying that people who have a dark sense of humor are often more thoughtful and less violent.
01:16:59 --> 01:17:00 [SPEAKER_14]: Oh, I agree with that.
01:17:01 --> 01:17:01 [SPEAKER_14]: Totally.
01:17:01 --> 01:17:02 [SPEAKER_14]: That's me.
01:17:02 --> 01:17:02 [SPEAKER_14]: Definitely.
01:17:02 --> 01:17:04 [SPEAKER_14]: I would, yes.
01:17:05 --> 01:17:06 [SPEAKER_14]: That's spot on.
01:17:07 --> 01:17:08 [SPEAKER_14]: One hundred percent.
01:17:09 --> 01:17:29 [SPEAKER_10]: So, you know what I think was the core of this show, though, about with Murn and his Ignobalok butterfly head, he says at the end, I picked this guy because he was a bad dude, but now I see even he could have changed, and I took that option away from him.
01:17:29 --> 01:17:31 [SPEAKER_00]: You took over someone.
01:17:31 --> 01:17:31 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
01:17:32 --> 01:17:35 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you killed someone who ever Murn, really why?
01:17:35 --> 01:17:37 [SPEAKER_13]: I needed to stop them.
01:17:38 --> 01:17:42 [SPEAKER_13]: So I inhabited the worst person I could fight, this man Leoder.
01:17:43 --> 01:17:44 [SPEAKER_13]: He's murder.
01:17:46 --> 01:17:51 [SPEAKER_13]: But still I know his thoughts, he's... ...even he could have changed.
01:17:52 --> 01:17:53 [SPEAKER_13]: I know that.
01:17:54 --> 01:17:55 [SPEAKER_13]: I took that from him.
01:17:56 --> 01:18:03 [SPEAKER_13]: I took his freedom, and his face, and every day I dread waking up to his memories.
01:18:03 --> 01:18:04 [SPEAKER_13]: That's the show.
01:18:05 --> 01:18:06 [SPEAKER_10]: And that's the show.
01:18:06 --> 01:18:11 [SPEAKER_10]: And I think that's why when peace maker gets the option to join the butterflies at the end.
01:18:11 --> 01:18:13 [SPEAKER_10]: And apparently there was a version of the script where he did.
01:18:14 --> 01:18:24 [SPEAKER_10]: But I think the reason why he says no is because he's thinking about what Murn said, you know, I took away the chance to let him change for himself.
01:18:24 --> 01:18:27 [SPEAKER_10]: You know, and he doesn't want to do that.
01:18:27 --> 01:18:28 [SPEAKER_14]: He couldn't have changed.
01:18:28 --> 01:18:29 [SPEAKER_14]: I think that's the key.
01:18:30 --> 01:18:31 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
01:18:31 --> 01:18:33 [SPEAKER_14]: And now I see he could have changed.
01:18:33 --> 01:18:34 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
01:18:35 --> 01:18:46 [SPEAKER_10]: Oh, it was a really sad death scene when he was crushed by the golf butterfly, Exdeck Ikik, and that Paul to hard court's fingers.
01:18:46 --> 01:18:48 [SPEAKER_14]: It was terrible.
01:18:49 --> 01:18:50 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
01:18:52 --> 01:18:55 [SPEAKER_10]: What did you think of the cops of the Evergreen Police Department?
01:18:56 --> 01:18:59 [SPEAKER_14]: Um, yeah, I'm not a fan of the police.
01:19:05 --> 01:19:10 [SPEAKER_14]: Oh, I'm not a fan of the polis, but even the fiction.
01:19:10 --> 01:19:11 [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, I felt bad.
01:19:11 --> 01:19:13 [SPEAKER_14]: I felt bad for song.
01:19:14 --> 01:19:17 [SPEAKER_10]: She had the best quips on the show.
01:19:17 --> 01:19:17 [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, I like song.
01:19:17 --> 01:19:18 [SPEAKER_14]: I like song a lot.
01:19:19 --> 01:19:19 [SPEAKER_10]: I did.
01:19:19 --> 01:19:23 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, like let her talk to everyone, especially the racist.
01:19:23 --> 01:19:24 [SPEAKER_09]: She is so bitch.
01:19:25 --> 01:19:27 [SPEAKER_09]: Or as they say in your language.
01:19:28 --> 01:19:30 [SPEAKER_09]: Trinkong, Tricky chopsticks.
01:19:34 --> 01:19:35 [SPEAKER_01]: I think your Google translation is off, foggy.
01:19:36 --> 01:19:39 [SPEAKER_01]: That means my haircut looks like a donkey took a shit on my head.
01:19:40 --> 01:19:41 [SPEAKER_01]: See ya.
01:19:42 --> 01:19:43 [SPEAKER_14]: Wouldn't want to be ya.
01:19:43 --> 01:19:45 [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, like, but I liked her a lot.
01:19:45 --> 01:19:47 [SPEAKER_14]: I thought she was a pretty cool character.
01:19:47 --> 01:19:50 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, fit by any chance.
01:19:50 --> 01:19:52 [SPEAKER_14]: Any chance, yes, she's the great job.
01:19:53 --> 01:19:58 [SPEAKER_14]: Fits Gibbon, who was, you know, they were cool.
01:19:59 --> 01:20:01 [SPEAKER_14]: I think they served the purposes that they were there for.
01:20:02 --> 01:20:02 [SPEAKER_14]: And, you know,
01:20:04 --> 01:20:04 [SPEAKER_14]: good.
01:20:05 --> 01:20:05 [SPEAKER_14]: I got it.
01:20:05 --> 01:20:11 [SPEAKER_14]: They for me to get invested in and a character that was turned, but it's not a main character.
01:20:11 --> 01:20:13 [SPEAKER_14]: That says a lot, you know?
01:20:13 --> 01:20:14 [SPEAKER_10]: Mm-hmm.
01:20:15 --> 01:20:16 [SPEAKER_14]: So I think they did a good job.
01:20:17 --> 01:20:17 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
01:20:18 --> 01:20:20 [SPEAKER_14]: I enjoyed each of their, you know, particular arcs.
01:20:21 --> 01:20:21 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
01:20:22 --> 01:20:22 [SPEAKER_14]: And this.
01:20:23 --> 01:20:25 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, sad to see them both go.
01:20:25 --> 01:20:30 [SPEAKER_10]: I like, like, well, really, I wasn't familiar with any Chang, but I really like to this performance.
01:20:30 --> 01:20:32 [SPEAKER_10]: And I do know Lockham or Monroe for other things.
01:20:32 --> 01:20:34 [SPEAKER_10]: He's just like really like full.
01:20:34 --> 01:20:43 [SPEAKER_10]: Apparently Fitzgibbon is a name of God's real-life friend and so puts the name Fitzgibbon in all these different things.
01:20:45 --> 01:20:52 [SPEAKER_10]: And what's also funny when her uncles, Sophie, songs, uncle, Judge William Judy.
01:20:54 --> 01:20:54 [SPEAKER_10]: I know this judge.
01:20:55 --> 01:20:55 [SPEAKER_01]: We can trust him.
01:20:56 --> 01:20:57 [SPEAKER_16]: What's his name?
01:20:57 --> 01:20:58 [SPEAKER_01]: It's Judy.
01:20:59 --> 01:20:59 [SPEAKER_01]: What?
01:21:00 --> 01:21:01 [SPEAKER_16]: Judge Judy.
01:21:01 --> 01:21:02 [SPEAKER_16]: That's his name.
01:21:02 --> 01:21:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:21:03 --> 01:21:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Judge William Judy.
01:21:03 --> 01:21:04 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a Swiss surname.
01:21:04 --> 01:21:05 [SPEAKER_16]: Whatever.
01:21:05 --> 01:21:07 [SPEAKER_01]: He's fair, we can trust him.
01:21:08 --> 01:21:08 [SPEAKER_16]: So you said?
01:21:10 --> 01:21:11 [SPEAKER_01]: And also he's my uncle.
01:21:15 --> 01:21:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, sweetie.
01:21:15 --> 01:21:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, Uncle Will.
01:21:17 --> 01:21:18 [SPEAKER_01]: We need a search warrant.
01:21:18 --> 01:21:20 [SPEAKER_01]: You ever heard of a guy named Peacemaker?
01:21:20 --> 01:21:24 [SPEAKER_10]: They didn't go far with that, but it did make me laugh.
01:21:24 --> 01:21:26 [SPEAKER_10]: You're our uncle.
01:21:26 --> 01:21:27 [SPEAKER_10]: We're seeing a judge, Judy.
01:21:28 --> 01:21:32 [SPEAKER_10]: You should make Uncle Will.
01:21:34 --> 01:21:42 [SPEAKER_10]: I do wonder, we saw, at the beginning of the season, there was a Captain Miel, played by Vina Suez, who's relatively known actress.
01:21:43 --> 01:21:49 [SPEAKER_10]: But she was demoted and dismissed and then replaced by, you know, the psychocop we talked about.
01:21:49 --> 01:21:53 [SPEAKER_10]: So she presumably survived this whole situation.
01:21:53 --> 01:21:53 [SPEAKER_10]: I wonder if she'll be back.
01:21:54 --> 01:21:56 [SPEAKER_14]: Oh, I didn't know that she's alive, okay.
01:21:56 --> 01:22:00 [SPEAKER_10]: Well, I mean, she wasn't there because she's been dismissed.
01:22:00 --> 01:22:02 [SPEAKER_10]: So I guess I could have saved her life.
01:22:02 --> 01:22:02 [SPEAKER_10]: Right.
01:22:07 --> 01:22:13 [SPEAKER_10]: What was your favorite part of the first two episodes the whole Annie Sturphausen situation?
01:22:14 --> 01:22:15 [SPEAKER_10]: That whole ridiculous.
01:22:17 --> 01:22:19 [SPEAKER_14]: I think you just said it on that whole ridiculous.
01:22:25 --> 01:22:28 [SPEAKER_14]: I mean, how do you even talk about it?
01:22:28 --> 01:22:29 [SPEAKER_14]: Like you have to see it.
01:22:31 --> 01:22:31 [SPEAKER_14]: Right.
01:22:31 --> 01:22:33 [SPEAKER_14]: You have to actually see it.
01:22:33 --> 01:22:33 [SPEAKER_14]: I don't think
01:22:36 --> 01:22:40 [SPEAKER_14]: That was some of the most bad shit crazy things on screen.
01:22:42 --> 01:22:47 [SPEAKER_14]: It's well with your time just to see these particular scenes.
01:22:48 --> 01:22:59 [SPEAKER_10]: I mean, one minute, he's just like rocking out to some hair metal and next minute, the woman he just coupled with is trying to kill him and with supernatural strength.
01:23:00 --> 01:23:01 [SPEAKER_14]: Super natural strength.
01:23:01 --> 01:23:07 [SPEAKER_10]: That's like, she's, but just everything from like the way the
01:23:08 --> 01:23:20 [SPEAKER_10]: The chase obviously to exploding her at the end of episode one and then like the beginning of episode two when he's trying to escape the apartments complex while the police are showing up.
01:23:21 --> 01:23:27 [SPEAKER_10]: But also is wants to steal a bunch of her records at the same time because I guess she's not going to use it.
01:23:27 --> 01:23:30 [SPEAKER_10]: And then he ends up hiding in the apartments of
01:23:31 --> 01:23:47 [SPEAKER_10]: Two of my favorite undersung heroes of season one are Amber and Evan, the couple who, who take him in and then he ties them up and then he laid our Amber has a three-some with piece maker and vigilante.
01:23:48 --> 01:23:50 [SPEAKER_10]: They help frame his dad and stuff.
01:23:50 --> 01:23:51 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
01:23:52 --> 01:23:54 [SPEAKER_10]: I notice they weren't in the opening dance number.
01:23:54 --> 01:23:57 [SPEAKER_10]: I wonder, I keep wondering why, like, were they busy?
01:23:57 --> 01:23:58 [SPEAKER_10]: Were they not invited?
01:23:58 --> 01:24:04 [SPEAKER_14]: Ah, that's funny.
01:24:04 --> 01:24:19 [SPEAKER_14]: I think when you see, when he's running from the building, I think another thing that the show did well with those sorts of scenes, like the chase scenes were really, really good.
01:24:20 --> 01:24:20 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
01:24:21 --> 01:24:22 [SPEAKER_14]: They were really, really good.
01:24:23 --> 01:24:25 [SPEAKER_14]: The action, not just the fighting.
01:24:25 --> 01:24:27 [SPEAKER_14]: I'm just talking about the chase scenes.
01:24:28 --> 01:24:32 [SPEAKER_14]: People running or trying to drive away on a highway, whatever it may be.
01:24:33 --> 01:24:35 [SPEAKER_14]: Those were shot extremely well.
01:24:36 --> 01:24:36 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
01:24:38 --> 01:24:40 [SPEAKER_10]: And I love the little mini spaceships.
01:24:40 --> 01:24:41 [SPEAKER_10]: I want one.
01:24:41 --> 01:24:41 [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah.
01:24:42 --> 01:24:43 [SPEAKER_14]: We all want the mini spaceships.
01:24:46 --> 01:24:50 [SPEAKER_10]: And then, yeah, we have golf obviously.
01:24:50 --> 01:24:53 [SPEAKER_10]: Also, each stack, it was a leader of the invasion.
01:24:54 --> 01:24:55 [SPEAKER_10]: Things that we're taking control of.
01:24:55 --> 01:24:59 [SPEAKER_10]: Control of humanity, they can create a better, more peaceful world.
01:24:59 --> 01:25:05 [SPEAKER_10]: Later takes over, you know, in the senator's body, who tortures vigilante, then they kill that body.
01:25:06 --> 01:25:11 [SPEAKER_10]: Later takes over is a prisoner of peacemaker and vigilante.
01:25:12 --> 01:25:15 [SPEAKER_10]: Then later takes over detective songs body after the botched.
01:25:15 --> 01:25:17 [SPEAKER_10]: raid by the police.
01:25:17 --> 01:25:24 [SPEAKER_10]: And last scene, sitting next to peacemaker eating the last of the jelly to start.
01:25:25 --> 01:25:26 [SPEAKER_14]: No, but jelly for you butterfly.
01:25:27 --> 01:25:30 [SPEAKER_10]: And apparently in early outlines was in love with peacemaker.
01:25:30 --> 01:25:35 [SPEAKER_10]: Would you would do you think that's fitting for golf to be in love with peacemaker?
01:25:42 --> 01:25:42 [SPEAKER_14]: No.
01:25:43 --> 01:25:43 [SPEAKER_05]: No.
01:25:46 --> 01:25:49 [SPEAKER_14]: I don't think- I don't think what it makes sense for me.
01:25:50 --> 01:25:52 [SPEAKER_14]: I don't think what it makes sense for me.
01:25:53 --> 01:26:03 [SPEAKER_14]: Because then it would have been like this, golf, hardcore, piece maker, triangle thingy, and not.
01:26:04 --> 01:26:07 [SPEAKER_10]: But then golf was going to take over hardcore's body.
01:26:08 --> 01:26:13 [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, I know, but still we were having that same feeling of triangle of horribleness and I didn't want that.
01:26:14 --> 01:26:16 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, I mean, but then Hunker would have been dead.
01:26:17 --> 01:26:22 [SPEAKER_14]: Oh, that is sort of a byproduct of that.
01:26:22 --> 01:26:24 [SPEAKER_14]: You're making a good case.
01:26:24 --> 01:26:25 [SPEAKER_14]: You're making a good case here.
01:26:25 --> 01:26:27 [SPEAKER_10]: Maybe you would like golf core better.
01:26:27 --> 01:26:29 [SPEAKER_14]: Maybe you're making a good case.
01:26:29 --> 01:26:34 [SPEAKER_14]: But I must stick with the know the between the triangle of relationships now.
01:26:35 --> 01:26:35 [SPEAKER_10]: Okay.
01:26:35 --> 01:26:35 [SPEAKER_10]: All right.
01:26:35 --> 01:26:36 [SPEAKER_10]: All right.
01:26:36 --> 01:26:36 [SPEAKER_10]: All right.
01:26:38 --> 01:26:48 [SPEAKER_10]: What did you think of Judo Master, who we know is going to be going by his comic book name, Hadley Rip Jager this season, played by Natalie?
01:26:49 --> 01:26:55 [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, I thought Judo Master was hilarious and badass and so wrong.
01:26:55 --> 01:27:00 [SPEAKER_14]: I'm a lot of different things, but every time he's on screen, it was cool.
01:27:02 --> 01:27:02 [SPEAKER_14]: for different reasons.
01:27:03 --> 01:27:10 [SPEAKER_14]: The stuff that he was saying, the flight scenes just, yeah, his look is nonchalant.
01:27:11 --> 01:27:14 [SPEAKER_14]: He was just like, how did you phrase it?
01:27:14 --> 01:27:15 [SPEAKER_14]: The annoying character?
01:27:15 --> 01:27:21 [SPEAKER_14]: Like, yeah, he was just so, I want to see him get his come up in.
01:27:21 --> 01:27:21 [SPEAKER_14]: See not what I mean?
01:27:21 --> 01:27:22 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, yeah.
01:27:22 --> 01:27:23 [SPEAKER_14]: That type of character.
01:27:25 --> 01:27:26 [SPEAKER_14]: So full of himself, like, ah,
01:27:28 --> 01:27:34 [SPEAKER_10]: I mean, he's apparently such a martial arts expert that he can re-arrange his organs to survive a gunshot wound.
01:27:34 --> 01:27:38 [SPEAKER_10]: Do you think he really did that?
01:27:38 --> 01:27:40 [SPEAKER_14]: Of course, I'm going to say, yeah, so more.
01:27:40 --> 01:27:42 [SPEAKER_14]: He's talking to me.
01:27:42 --> 01:27:43 [SPEAKER_14]: Yes, he absolutely did it.
01:27:43 --> 01:27:45 [SPEAKER_14]: And if he can't do it, I'm upset.
01:27:46 --> 01:27:46 [SPEAKER_10]: Yes.
01:27:47 --> 01:27:49 [SPEAKER_10]: Does that make him a metahuman if he can?
01:27:50 --> 01:27:50 [SPEAKER_14]: Yes.
01:27:52 --> 01:27:52 [SPEAKER_14]: No, no, no.
01:27:52 --> 01:27:54 [SPEAKER_14]: Doesn't make him hmm.
01:27:55 --> 01:27:56 [SPEAKER_14]: That's a good question.
01:27:58 --> 01:28:11 [SPEAKER_14]: Ha, I would have to see the type of training that he received in order to do this, because are the others who have trained that can do it, or is he singular in this application?
01:28:13 --> 01:28:26 [SPEAKER_10]: So you think meta humans need to be born that way, or is it something like if someone has a toxic accident and gets powers that way, does that make them a meta human?
01:28:26 --> 01:28:27 [SPEAKER_14]: Yes.
01:28:29 --> 01:28:31 [SPEAKER_14]: I don't think metal humans are mutants.
01:28:32 --> 01:28:33 [SPEAKER_10]: No.
01:28:33 --> 01:28:35 [SPEAKER_10]: They're just, they have supernatural powers.
01:28:35 --> 01:28:36 [SPEAKER_10]: Yes.
01:28:36 --> 01:28:37 [SPEAKER_14]: Extraordinary powers.
01:28:38 --> 01:28:38 [SPEAKER_10]: Okay.
01:28:39 --> 01:28:39 [SPEAKER_10]: Okay.
01:28:41 --> 01:28:41 [SPEAKER_10]: All right.
01:28:42 --> 01:28:47 [SPEAKER_10]: Have you ever seen anyone who liked a snack as much as true to master likes flaming hands?
01:28:47 --> 01:28:47 [SPEAKER_10]: No.
01:28:48 --> 01:28:48 [SPEAKER_14]: Have not.
01:28:49 --> 01:28:50 [SPEAKER_14]: No.
01:28:51 --> 01:28:53 [SPEAKER_14]: And I'm happy to say, I'm happy to say no.
01:28:54 --> 01:28:54 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
01:28:55 --> 01:28:57 [SPEAKER_10]: Are you a fan of blaming how Cheetos?
01:28:57 --> 01:28:58 [SPEAKER_14]: I am not.
01:28:59 --> 01:28:59 [SPEAKER_14]: No.
01:28:59 --> 01:28:59 [SPEAKER_14]: I'm not.
01:28:59 --> 01:29:00 [SPEAKER_14]: I've tried them once.
01:29:00 --> 01:29:01 [SPEAKER_10]: Mm-hmm.
01:29:01 --> 01:29:02 [SPEAKER_14]: Never again.
01:29:02 --> 01:29:04 [SPEAKER_10]: Are you a fan of regular Cheetos?
01:29:04 --> 01:29:05 [SPEAKER_14]: Yes, I am.
01:29:06 --> 01:29:09 [SPEAKER_14]: Having had them in years, but growing up definitely.
01:29:10 --> 01:29:14 [SPEAKER_10]: I see, I'm not a fan of Cheetos, but if I were, it would be flaming hot.
01:29:14 --> 01:29:15 [SPEAKER_14]: Okay, that makes sense.
01:29:16 --> 01:29:17 [SPEAKER_14]: That makes sense.
01:29:17 --> 01:29:20 [SPEAKER_10]: Something about the texture and the powder stuff, I'm like that.
01:29:20 --> 01:29:20 [SPEAKER_10]: Right.
01:29:20 --> 01:29:20 [SPEAKER_10]: I don't know.
01:29:21 --> 01:29:21 [UNKNOWN]: Mm-hmm.
01:29:23 --> 01:29:28 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, but I loved you to master, you know, mock his size at your own peril.
01:29:28 --> 01:29:38 [SPEAKER_10]: I love when he just, when there's those two people who go into the, there's two jackasses who go into the convenience mark.
01:29:39 --> 01:29:43 [SPEAKER_10]: And we don't even know what they say to the guy in there.
01:29:43 --> 01:29:45 [SPEAKER_10]: But they come out and they're mocking you to master.
01:29:45 --> 01:29:49 [SPEAKER_10]: He kicks their asses and then the guy behind the counter inside gives him a thumbs up.
01:29:52 --> 01:30:00 [SPEAKER_10]: But also I just find it interesting that he truly believed in the butterfly mission to make a better world.
01:30:00 --> 01:30:02 [SPEAKER_10]: I guess he was going to be spared for going along with it.
01:30:05 --> 01:30:11 [SPEAKER_14]: I don't know if he would have, but he maybe that's why he did believe, but I somehow don't think that would have happened.
01:30:13 --> 01:30:15 [SPEAKER_14]: I don't think the butterflies were taking prisoners.
01:30:16 --> 01:30:33 [SPEAKER_10]: I mean, if it depends if we believe what they say, if they actually, like they said, they were happy to just live there amongst people until they realize that humans were awful and destroying everything, which fair, that's definitely anything humans do.
01:30:35 --> 01:30:44 [SPEAKER_10]: So I understand why, you know, you want like peaceful, overload, whatever situation, but
01:30:45 --> 01:30:50 [SPEAKER_10]: I think it's going to end up, even if it doesn't cost you yourself, it's going to end up costing you too much regardless.
01:30:50 --> 01:30:52 [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, definitely agree with that.
01:30:54 --> 01:31:00 [SPEAKER_10]: We last see him standing in a field with all the dead butterflies around him, like what now?
01:31:01 --> 01:31:02 [SPEAKER_10]: So he's not going to be too happy this season.
01:31:04 --> 01:31:06 [SPEAKER_10]: Murn and most of the butterflies are dead.
01:31:06 --> 01:31:11 [SPEAKER_10]: Their cow is dead, despite Chris turning down their offer to become one of them.
01:31:13 --> 01:31:19 [SPEAKER_10]: I guess kind of spent her final days with piecemaker, I suppose.
01:31:19 --> 01:31:20 [SPEAKER_10]: I'm pretty sure she's gone.
01:31:21 --> 01:31:22 [SPEAKER_10]: Um, you never know.
01:31:23 --> 01:31:23 [SPEAKER_14]: You never know.
01:31:23 --> 01:31:24 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, you never know.
01:31:24 --> 01:31:26 [SPEAKER_14]: I had a final way to keep her alive in that jar.
01:31:26 --> 01:31:26 [SPEAKER_14]: You never know.
01:31:27 --> 01:31:29 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, synthesize to go.
01:31:31 --> 01:31:35 [SPEAKER_10]: Uh, out of bio returns home to Gotham after exposing her mother.
01:31:35 --> 01:31:38 [SPEAKER_10]: And it seems like there's going to be some tension with her wife.
01:31:39 --> 01:31:43 [SPEAKER_10]: Now Amelia is the one where hardcore is the one recovering in the hospital.
01:31:43 --> 01:31:46 [SPEAKER_10]: I love that last moment where vigilante.
01:31:47 --> 01:31:48 [SPEAKER_10]: I was like, it's vigilante.
01:31:49 --> 01:31:51 [SPEAKER_10]: Um, did he get possessed by butterfly?
01:31:51 --> 01:31:52 [SPEAKER_10]: Because we didn't see that.
01:31:52 --> 01:31:57 [SPEAKER_10]: And then we just see him like peace sideways out the window and I'm like, no, that's vigilante.
01:31:57 --> 01:31:59 [SPEAKER_14]: It's not the butterfly.
01:31:59 --> 01:32:00 [SPEAKER_10]: That's still the same dude.
01:32:03 --> 01:32:04 [SPEAKER_10]: Economist was unconscious.
01:32:04 --> 01:32:06 [SPEAKER_10]: I suppose he's probably healed by now, right?
01:32:07 --> 01:32:09 [SPEAKER_10]: How much do you think will be carried over?
01:32:10 --> 01:32:14 [SPEAKER_10]: I don't mean it's hard to say what angle we're going in with this new universe.
01:32:14 --> 01:32:17 [SPEAKER_14]: I mean, we'll see.
01:32:17 --> 01:32:18 [SPEAKER_14]: I don't know.
01:32:20 --> 01:32:20 [SPEAKER_14]: I don't know.
01:32:20 --> 01:32:24 [SPEAKER_14]: You know, I want to be, I don't want to speculate.
01:32:25 --> 01:32:27 [SPEAKER_14]: I know this business that we're in.
01:32:29 --> 01:32:37 [SPEAKER_14]: We watched these movies and we read these comics and we watched the shows and we know the characters and we want to say, what are they going to pull?
01:32:38 --> 01:32:42 [SPEAKER_14]: But Gun has, you know, I don't know what he's going to pull.
01:32:43 --> 01:32:52 [SPEAKER_14]: So I'm excited to see this first episode and to see where he intends on going with the season, with the characters.
01:32:54 --> 01:32:55 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, okay, okay.
01:32:58 --> 01:33:02 [SPEAKER_10]: So creature commander was stuff you might want to know from that for the show.
01:33:02 --> 01:33:04 [SPEAKER_10]: Obviously, we've talked about Rick Flag Senior.
01:33:05 --> 01:33:06 [SPEAKER_10]: He will be back.
01:33:06 --> 01:33:14 [SPEAKER_10]: We talked about he's I think he's probably going to find out some things about his son's death and it's going to get ugly.
01:33:14 --> 01:33:15 [SPEAKER_10]: That's my prediction.
01:33:16 --> 01:33:17 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, definitely.
01:33:19 --> 01:33:19 [SPEAKER_05]: Definitely.
01:33:20 --> 01:33:21 [SPEAKER_05]: I think he's coming for Christopher.
01:33:22 --> 01:33:22 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
01:33:24 --> 01:33:28 [SPEAKER_10]: And then, yeah, we also saw him in, he was in Superman as well.
01:33:28 --> 01:33:33 [SPEAKER_10]: And so he was in Superman, he was in charge of detaining soups.
01:33:34 --> 01:33:38 [SPEAKER_10]: And he outsourced Superman's confinement and interrogation of planet watch.
01:33:38 --> 01:33:43 [SPEAKER_10]: And you and I talked about our disgust with that on the Superman breakdown pod.
01:33:45 --> 01:33:45 [SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
01:33:47 --> 01:33:58 [SPEAKER_10]: especially Superman said no one read me my rights and he says courts decide those rights don't apply to extraterrestrial organisms but he's sorry about it.
01:34:00 --> 01:34:02 [SPEAKER_14]: Just doing my job.
01:34:02 --> 01:34:05 [SPEAKER_14]: Oh well, oh, I'm sorry.
01:34:05 --> 01:34:05 [SPEAKER_14]: Good.
01:34:06 --> 01:34:09 [SPEAKER_14]: Got to send you to alternate dimension universe.
01:34:11 --> 01:34:12 [SPEAKER_14]: Prison cell.
01:34:13 --> 01:34:13 [SPEAKER_14]: See you.
01:34:16 --> 01:34:26 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, and then at the end of the movie, what's really concerning to me is one of its colleagues says to him, glad you're not concerned about the meta humans Rick, because now they're the ones making the rules.
01:34:27 --> 01:34:29 [SPEAKER_10]: And Rick looks indeed very concerned.
01:34:30 --> 01:34:34 [SPEAKER_10]: So I think he's going to be, I see that's a thing.
01:34:35 --> 01:34:46 [SPEAKER_10]: I said that I like Superman and piece maker better than creature commandos except for Rick Flag senior is so much better in creature commandos and we've seen them elsewhere so far.
01:34:46 --> 01:34:48 [SPEAKER_10]: So we'll see if he can win me over.
01:34:49 --> 01:34:51 [SPEAKER_14]: I did not like reflects either in creature commandos.
01:34:52 --> 01:34:55 [SPEAKER_10]: I really didn't like, I like to increase your commanders.
01:34:55 --> 01:34:58 [SPEAKER_10]: I was rooting for him even though he was sometimes stupid, but people are.
01:35:00 --> 01:35:01 [SPEAKER_10]: But he was awful in Superman.
01:35:01 --> 01:35:03 [SPEAKER_10]: I hated him in Superman.
01:35:03 --> 01:35:03 [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, definitely.
01:35:04 --> 01:35:04 [SPEAKER_14]: Definitely.
01:35:04 --> 01:35:05 [SPEAKER_14]: He discontinued the trend for me.
01:35:05 --> 01:35:06 [SPEAKER_14]: No.
01:35:08 --> 01:35:19 [SPEAKER_10]: And okay, and we had the peacemaker camey on Superman obviously where he's on a talk show and he says I wrote down I just rewatch it and I wrote down everything he said on talk show he says It's guys like this.
01:35:20 --> 01:35:23 [SPEAKER_10]: They've always got a bunch of dark ugly secrets thinks he's better than
01:35:23 --> 01:35:25 [SPEAKER_10]: than everybody else talking about Superman, of course.
01:35:25 --> 01:35:30 [SPEAKER_10]: Makes this decoration against killing people unless it's absolutely necessary, really dude.
01:35:30 --> 01:35:35 [SPEAKER_10]: It kind of sounds like you're trying to make the guys who are a little more edgyer than you look like jerks.
01:35:35 --> 01:35:36 [SPEAKER_10]: You know what I mean?
01:35:36 --> 01:35:43 [SPEAKER_10]: A lot of these guys, these heroes, from the magazines, they're obsessed with me, because I'm more jacked than they are.
01:35:44 --> 01:35:46 [SPEAKER_14]: And this is before season two.
01:35:46 --> 01:35:47 [SPEAKER_14]: This is after season one.
01:35:47 --> 01:35:48 [SPEAKER_14]: Right.
01:35:49 --> 01:35:51 [SPEAKER_14]: What kind of lessons did you learn, Christopher?
01:35:52 --> 01:35:53 [SPEAKER_10]: I know.
01:35:53 --> 01:35:55 [SPEAKER_14]: What kind of lessons did you learn here?
01:35:56 --> 01:36:00 [SPEAKER_10]: It's always two steps forward one by one, at least.
01:36:00 --> 01:36:04 [SPEAKER_10]: Sometimes two steps forward, two steps back before you go over the game.
01:36:05 --> 01:36:06 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
01:36:06 --> 01:36:07 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
01:36:07 --> 01:36:10 [SPEAKER_10]: Well, would you like to see piece maker Superman fight?
01:36:10 --> 01:36:11 [SPEAKER_10]: That would just be so what?
01:36:11 --> 01:36:11 [SPEAKER_10]: Why?
01:36:13 --> 01:36:19 [SPEAKER_14]: Unless he has like a kryptonite suit, which is possible, but... Like a helmet, yeah.
01:36:19 --> 01:36:24 [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, guns, knives, whatever, then yeah, sure, but other than that.
01:36:24 --> 01:36:25 [SPEAKER_10]: He had a speaker.
01:36:25 --> 01:36:29 [SPEAKER_14]: And even then suits with figure out a way to out think of mouse mod himself.
01:36:29 --> 01:36:29 [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah.
01:36:31 --> 01:36:34 [SPEAKER_10]: Who in the new DCU would you want to see Superman fight?
01:36:36 --> 01:36:36 [SPEAKER_14]: Oh gosh.
01:36:37 --> 01:36:37 [SPEAKER_14]: Wow.
01:36:39 --> 01:36:41 [SPEAKER_14]: Who do we know for the facts are here?
01:36:42 --> 01:36:44 [SPEAKER_14]: out of all the people that we know for a factor here?
01:36:44 --> 01:36:45 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
01:36:46 --> 01:36:48 [SPEAKER_10]: Or someone could be.
01:36:49 --> 01:36:50 [SPEAKER_14]: Captain Adam.
01:36:51 --> 01:36:52 [SPEAKER_10]: Okay.
01:36:53 --> 01:36:54 [SPEAKER_14]: Who else?
01:36:55 --> 01:36:55 [SPEAKER_14]: Let me think.
01:36:56 --> 01:36:58 [SPEAKER_14]: Go to the next line.
01:36:58 --> 01:36:58 [SPEAKER_14]: I'm gonna think about this.
01:36:58 --> 01:37:00 [SPEAKER_10]: Alright, Woody, what about piecemaker?
01:37:00 --> 01:37:01 [SPEAKER_10]: Who would you like to see piecemaker fight?
01:37:02 --> 01:37:02 [SPEAKER_14]: Oh, Batman.
01:37:03 --> 01:37:05 [SPEAKER_10]: You see, okay, okay, everyone.
01:37:05 --> 01:37:07 [SPEAKER_10]: All right, cool.
01:37:08 --> 01:37:15 [SPEAKER_10]: We know we're going to get some appearances, at least cameos from the Justice Gang from Superman.
01:37:15 --> 01:37:21 [SPEAKER_10]: Hot girl is a bell and was said, Nate Gardner, the Green Lantern play by Nathan Filihan.
01:37:21 --> 01:37:24 [SPEAKER_10]: We know they're going to show up at least at some point in season two.
01:37:26 --> 01:37:29 [SPEAKER_10]: And we talked about the whole pocket universe thing.
01:37:29 --> 01:37:31 [SPEAKER_10]: Although it does yet.
01:37:31 --> 01:37:33 [SPEAKER_10]: Lex Luthers feels a lot more unstable.
01:37:34 --> 01:37:40 [SPEAKER_10]: We didn't see any black holes around the edges of peacemakers, fathers.
01:37:40 --> 01:37:41 [SPEAKER_14]: Right.
01:37:41 --> 01:37:42 [SPEAKER_14]: I'm the one I'm saying.
01:37:42 --> 01:37:45 [SPEAKER_14]: I think it's, um, things a little bit different.
01:37:46 --> 01:37:46 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
01:37:46 --> 01:37:46 [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah.
01:37:48 --> 01:37:50 [SPEAKER_10]: I'm curious if they're going to define their difference.
01:37:50 --> 01:37:53 [SPEAKER_14]: Back to the Superman question, Apollo.
01:37:54 --> 01:37:57 [SPEAKER_14]: Midnighter from the authority, those two characters.
01:37:58 --> 01:38:00 [SPEAKER_14]: Lobo, we love to see that.
01:38:01 --> 01:38:02 [SPEAKER_10]: Lobo is coming soon.
01:38:02 --> 01:38:03 [SPEAKER_10]: Lobo, yeah.
01:38:03 --> 01:38:04 [SPEAKER_14]: I would love to see that.
01:38:06 --> 01:38:09 [SPEAKER_14]: I don't really want some soups to fight.
01:38:11 --> 01:38:14 [SPEAKER_14]: I don't need dark side right now or anything like that.
01:38:15 --> 01:38:18 [SPEAKER_14]: Eventually I would love to see that, but don't need dark side right now.
01:38:19 --> 01:38:22 [SPEAKER_14]: But I think those characters would be all to start off with.
01:38:23 --> 01:38:25 [SPEAKER_10]: Okay, all right, cool, cool.
01:38:25 --> 01:38:28 [SPEAKER_10]: So what are you most looking forward to season two of Peace Maker?
01:38:31 --> 01:38:42 [SPEAKER_14]: The usage of the alternate dimensions, realities, universes, whatever we want to call them, how does this play into the DCU proper?
01:38:43 --> 01:38:48 [SPEAKER_14]: You know, if it's going to have a role in the future releases,
01:38:50 --> 01:39:02 [SPEAKER_14]: And I just want to see if he gets to be something other than what he is now, from what we've seen from him, if he gets to be different, if he gets to be better.
01:39:05 --> 01:39:06 [SPEAKER_10]: Mm-hmm.
01:39:07 --> 01:39:07 [SPEAKER_10]: Right.
01:39:07 --> 01:39:12 [SPEAKER_10]: Uh, yeah, I can't wait to see the vigilante in E.C.
01:39:12 --> 01:39:15 [SPEAKER_10]: but an end for you to master, although the ones who make me laugh.
01:39:16 --> 01:39:22 [SPEAKER_10]: Um, yeah, I'm just very curious, like, what if he's hopping through realities?
01:39:23 --> 01:39:26 [SPEAKER_10]: Are we seeing other versions of these characters as well?
01:39:26 --> 01:39:27 [SPEAKER_10]: That would be fun.
01:39:28 --> 01:39:28 [SPEAKER_14]: I would think so.
01:39:28 --> 01:39:29 [SPEAKER_14]: I would hope so.
01:39:30 --> 01:39:30 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
01:39:31 --> 01:39:32 [SPEAKER_14]: I would hope so.
01:39:33 --> 01:39:38 [SPEAKER_10]: So, okay, DCU's chapter one is called Gods and Monsters, which do you think will feature in season two?
01:39:40 --> 01:39:41 [SPEAKER_14]: Gods?
01:39:42 --> 01:39:44 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, like Superman or?
01:39:44 --> 01:39:44 [SPEAKER_14]: Yes.
01:39:46 --> 01:39:46 [SPEAKER_10]: Okay.
01:39:47 --> 01:39:48 [SPEAKER_10]: We do know James guns.
01:39:48 --> 01:40:03 [SPEAKER_10]: He's only let people see, we haven't seen anything by the way, but some people have seen the first six episodes and he says he's keeping the last two episodes under lock and key because they are maybe his favorite thing that he's ever done and spoilers.
01:40:03 --> 01:40:04 [SPEAKER_14]: Wow.
01:40:04 --> 01:40:04 [SPEAKER_14]: Wow.
01:40:04 --> 01:40:05 [SPEAKER_14]: Okay.
01:40:06 --> 01:40:07 [SPEAKER_10]: So I'm excited for that.
01:40:07 --> 01:40:11 [SPEAKER_10]: So we know we're going to get some new cops.
01:40:11 --> 01:40:11 [SPEAKER_10]: We here.
01:40:11 --> 01:40:12 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, I guess.
01:40:12 --> 01:40:17 [SPEAKER_10]: Obviously, that's necessary because things did not end well.
01:40:18 --> 01:40:21 [SPEAKER_10]: Because obviously, they kind of emptied out the police station last season.
01:40:21 --> 01:40:26 [SPEAKER_10]: So we have Tim Meadows is going to play Langston Flurry.
01:40:26 --> 01:40:27 [SPEAKER_14]: Absolutely.
01:40:27 --> 01:40:28 [SPEAKER_14]: Love Tim Meadows.
01:40:29 --> 01:40:31 [SPEAKER_10]: So Rodriguez is going to play Sasha Bordeaux.
01:40:32 --> 01:40:39 [SPEAKER_10]: A brand in Stanley's gonna play a new character called Pony Boy like now from the comics Or is no I guess it's pulling away from the comics.
01:40:40 --> 01:40:51 [SPEAKER_10]: I think fun books Red Saint wild is a new character play by Michael Roker He's gonna be an eagle hunter like how could anyone I already hate him.
01:40:51 --> 01:40:51 [SPEAKER_10]: I hate him.
01:40:51 --> 01:40:57 [SPEAKER_10]: Well, I like Michael Roker I like Michael Roker, but I hate red Saint wild the eagle hunter.
01:40:57 --> 01:40:58 [SPEAKER_14]: Okay, that's fair
01:41:00 --> 01:41:01 [SPEAKER_10]: How dare you?
01:41:01 --> 01:41:03 [SPEAKER_10]: How dare you go after Eglay?
01:41:04 --> 01:41:05 [SPEAKER_10]: He's a miracle in wings.
01:41:10 --> 01:41:10 [SPEAKER_10]: All right.
01:41:10 --> 01:41:14 [SPEAKER_10]: Well, we're going to be doing weekly piece maker coverage coverage.
01:41:14 --> 01:41:20 [SPEAKER_10]: Of course, and do also check out our recent Superman coverage and creature commandos coverage that we did in January.
01:41:20 --> 01:41:23 [SPEAKER_10]: I'll link to those in the show notes here if you want refreshers on those.
01:41:25 --> 01:41:31 [SPEAKER_10]: Marvel fans, we also recently covered Ironharts and Fantastic Four for Steps.
01:41:32 --> 01:41:33 [SPEAKER_10]: And we're going to doizable condo, finally.
01:41:33 --> 01:41:34 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we will.
01:41:35 --> 01:41:36 [SPEAKER_04]: That's going to be fun.
01:41:36 --> 01:41:38 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, yeah, that was a fun little show.
01:41:39 --> 01:41:40 [SPEAKER_10]: Just a snack.
01:41:42 --> 01:41:46 [SPEAKER_10]: Um, and Marvel zombies is coming in October and Wonderman in December.
01:41:47 --> 01:41:49 [SPEAKER_10]: So we'll see what we do with the Wonderman coverage.
01:41:49 --> 01:41:50 [SPEAKER_10]: Maybe January.
01:41:50 --> 01:41:57 [SPEAKER_10]: Um, also on the main feed, they're just getting toward the end of the season with foundation.
01:41:57 --> 01:41:59 [SPEAKER_10]: How are you feeling about foundation season three?
01:41:59 --> 01:42:01 [SPEAKER_14]: I just caught up.
01:42:03 --> 01:42:05 [SPEAKER_14]: And yeah, it's a lot.
01:42:06 --> 01:42:06 [SPEAKER_10]: It's a lot.
01:42:07 --> 01:42:07 [SPEAKER_14]: It's a lot.
01:42:07 --> 01:42:18 [SPEAKER_14]: I don't know if it's my, I don't know if it's my, I don't know if it's my favorite season yet.
01:42:19 --> 01:42:22 [SPEAKER_14]: But this is just visually stunning television.
01:42:24 --> 01:42:33 [SPEAKER_14]: and leap pace, you know, is doing such a great job right now.
01:42:34 --> 01:42:40 [SPEAKER_14]: So I'm really, I'm really excited to see where we end up, how we end up.
01:42:42 --> 01:42:48 [SPEAKER_10]: Speaking of visually stunning television, have you watched the first episodes of Alien Earth yet?
01:42:48 --> 01:42:52 [SPEAKER_14]: And I have, I am equally amazed.
01:42:54 --> 01:42:58 [SPEAKER_14]: equally amazed that they were able to pull off what they've pulled off in these first two episodes as well.
01:42:58 --> 01:43:00 [SPEAKER_14]: I haven't listened to the party yet.
01:43:01 --> 01:43:04 [SPEAKER_14]: So I'll check that out this week before episode two.
01:43:05 --> 01:43:07 [SPEAKER_14]: I'm an episode three.
01:43:07 --> 01:43:08 [SPEAKER_14]: So yeah.
01:43:10 --> 01:43:15 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, I mean, it's going to be tough this year to make our top ten.
01:43:15 --> 01:43:17 [SPEAKER_10]: This is like definitely a zero.
01:43:17 --> 01:43:18 [SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, it is.
01:43:18 --> 01:43:19 [SPEAKER_14]: It's going to be difficult.
01:43:20 --> 01:43:23 [SPEAKER_10]: But Alien Earth, I don't know.
01:43:23 --> 01:43:23 [SPEAKER_10]: We'll see.
01:43:23 --> 01:43:23 [SPEAKER_10]: We'll see.
01:43:24 --> 01:43:29 [SPEAKER_10]: Alien Earth, so far, is making a strong case for its inclusion.
01:43:31 --> 01:43:34 [SPEAKER_10]: Another one I said is definitely on my top ten for this year is the Gilded Age.
01:43:35 --> 01:43:42 [SPEAKER_10]: So then an episode came out just where we had two lower masters, Brian, eighty, sixty, three, a.k.
01:43:42 --> 01:43:44 [SPEAKER_10]: Usal and Lisa, a.k.
01:43:44 --> 01:43:48 [SPEAKER_10]: Red Zippy, a brother and sister, by the way, historian and both.
01:43:49 --> 01:44:05 [SPEAKER_10]: quite fans of costume genres, so we had a super deep and sprawling conversation about the history behind the gilded age and the character developments and where we think it's going from here based on historical facts and the way the writings, the writing on the wall, so to speak.
01:44:06 --> 01:44:09 [SPEAKER_14]: They are watching the series before I dip into the pods.
01:44:10 --> 01:44:21 [SPEAKER_10]: Okay, we do we did start with like the first half hour is spoiler free where we just kind of like like this episode, we just kind of make the case for this is why you should watch.
01:44:21 --> 01:44:22 [SPEAKER_14]: Okay, cool.
01:44:23 --> 01:44:30 [SPEAKER_10]: And do also watch out for part two of the Emmy nominations come out in early September now as prep for the ceremony.
01:44:31 --> 01:44:43 [SPEAKER_10]: If you have any feedback about peacemaker or anything Marvel or GC, you can send it to our new email address comics VS comics versus comics vs at the lowerhouse.com.
01:44:43 --> 01:44:47 [SPEAKER_10]: You'll find that link in the show notes and also of course the
01:44:47 --> 01:45:02 [SPEAKER_10]: link tree where you can find the discord where there's a forum with spoiler chats per movie or show of the DCU or episode of peacemaker under current shows or if you're listening to this later you'll find it under franchises and do
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01:45:26 --> 01:45:30 [SPEAKER_10]: Other extra episodes like what you watch in extras like a recent one about weapons
01:45:32 --> 01:45:38 [SPEAKER_10]: the monthly second breakfast and eleven z's, which is this month, it's David's month, it's about Putin.
01:45:39 --> 01:45:46 [SPEAKER_10]: And the eighties, nineties spoofs was a theme and airplane one with eighty percent.
01:45:47 --> 01:45:47 [SPEAKER_14]: Okay.
01:45:48 --> 01:45:49 [SPEAKER_10]: Are you a fan of airplane?
01:45:49 --> 01:45:50 [SPEAKER_14]: Yes, I am.
01:45:50 --> 01:45:50 [SPEAKER_10]: Okay.
01:45:50 --> 01:45:52 [SPEAKER_14]: I've seen it a few times.
01:45:53 --> 01:45:53 [SPEAKER_10]: Okay.
01:45:53 --> 01:45:54 [SPEAKER_10]: Did you vote for it?
01:45:55 --> 01:45:56 [SPEAKER_14]: I didn't get to vote.
01:45:56 --> 01:45:57 [SPEAKER_10]: Okay.
01:45:57 --> 01:45:58 [SPEAKER_10]: This is a quick versus.
01:45:58 --> 01:46:02 [SPEAKER_14]: This month has been, you know, for me has been crazy.
01:46:02 --> 01:46:05 [SPEAKER_14]: So I haven't been in tune as much as I normally am.
01:46:05 --> 01:46:07 [SPEAKER_14]: So it's starting to widen down a little bit.
01:46:08 --> 01:46:08 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
01:46:08 --> 01:46:19 [SPEAKER_14]: But you have seen airplane, um, many, many times to with, you know, very in sobriety as I watched.
01:46:21 --> 01:46:23 [SPEAKER_10]: If it seems like the current level is a sobriety, it's best to further away from sobriety.
01:46:23 --> 01:46:24 [SPEAKER_14]: It's best to further away from sobriety.
01:46:25 --> 01:46:26 [SPEAKER_10]: It's best to further away from sobriety.
01:46:26 --> 01:46:27 [SPEAKER_10]: It's best to further away from sobriety.
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01:46:46 --> 01:46:54 [SPEAKER_10]: Rings and rituals properly how a movie reviews wrapping up their bacon wrapped season about Kevin Bacon and his colleagues and colleagues of colleagues and you get the drift.
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01:47:03 --> 01:47:07 [SPEAKER_10]: And alright, I have a mystery song again.
01:47:07 --> 01:47:08 [SPEAKER_10]: Good guy.
01:47:08 --> 01:47:10 [SPEAKER_14]: What folder has the question?
01:47:10 --> 01:47:11 [SPEAKER_10]: the eighties folder.
01:47:11 --> 01:47:19 [SPEAKER_10]: And in honor, in honor, it's not, yeah, I mean, I chose a song called Hair Style Hayes.
01:47:20 --> 01:47:20 [SPEAKER_10]: So let's see.
01:47:20 --> 01:47:22 [SPEAKER_10]: All right, here we go.
01:47:22 --> 01:47:24 [SPEAKER_10]: This seems for a great enough.
01:47:24 --> 01:47:25 [SPEAKER_10]: Thank you.
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01:49:12 --> 01:49:13 [SPEAKER_07]: What's up fellas?
01:49:14 --> 01:49:19 [SPEAKER_07]: But you told seemed like the coolest guys in this place, so I was thinking, you know, like we should get to know each other.
01:49:20 --> 01:49:20 [SPEAKER_07]: What?
01:49:21 --> 01:49:25 [SPEAKER_07]: Let's pick a topic and then everyone goes round a circle and says there are feelings on that topic.
01:49:26 --> 01:49:28 [SPEAKER_07]: Let's start with, uh, I don't know.
01:49:28 --> 01:49:33 [SPEAKER_07]: Let's each say something that we're grateful for, the black people have contributed to American culture.
01:49:34 --> 01:49:35 [SPEAKER_08]: Is this too joking right now?
01:49:35 --> 01:49:35 [SPEAKER_08]: No.
01:49:36 --> 01:49:37 [SPEAKER_07]: Hey, look, I'll go first.
01:49:37 --> 01:49:41 [SPEAKER_07]: I'm grateful that black people gave us rock and roll music.
01:49:41 --> 01:49:43 [SPEAKER_07]: Litter Skinner, ZZ Top, thirty-eight special.
01:49:44 --> 01:49:48 [SPEAKER_07]: All those guys owe everything to black American folk and blues musicians.
01:49:48 --> 01:49:49 [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, they wouldn't exist without them.
01:49:49 --> 01:49:57 [SPEAKER_07]: And then white redneck music would just sound like, well, what a sound like before black people, which was the wet sloppy sounds of fucking your sister.
01:49:58 --> 01:50:05 [SPEAKER_07]: Okay, so that's my turn, which one of you dumb sister fuck and Tiki Torch carrying sloth from the Goonies look and pieces as shit wants to go next?