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The Top Talking-About-Peacemaker Trio has assembled for a tour of the Quantum Unfolding Chamber in "The Ties That Grind," the first episode of season 2 of Peacemaker on HBO Max.
Elysia falls down James Gunn's deep-cut rabbit holes, Jean serves up Max Lord lore with a side of Harcourt haterade, and Aaron weighs in from the hasn't-yet-seen-Superman perspective (and shouts out the Justice Gang member he wants to see more of most). Then they dive into what they think is really going on in that other world.
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00:19 --> 00:20 [SPEAKER_05]: Welcome to the Lower Hounds.
00:20 --> 00:22 [SPEAKER_05]: Look at season two of peacemaker.
00:22 --> 00:24 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm Alicia the egley lover.
00:24 --> 00:26 [SPEAKER_05]: One of your guides to the quantum unfolding chamber.
00:27 --> 00:35 [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm John Hawko's biggest hater and co-host of comic versus does the DC universe where we're suspicious of dragons of any color.
00:36 --> 00:38 [SPEAKER_03]: But Alicia and I are not alone for our peacemaker coverage.
00:39 --> 00:39 [SPEAKER_03]: Not this season.
00:41 --> 00:47 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm Aaron, the only host of radioactive ramblings with the taste level to appreciate the genius of this series.
00:47 --> 00:53 [SPEAKER_01]: And we're here today to recap and analyze episode one of season two, the ties that grind.
00:53 --> 00:59 [SPEAKER_01]: If you haven't yet listened to John and Alicia's season one breakdown for spoiler free discussion of the show overall.
01:00 --> 01:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Background on production and a recap of season one and the suicide squad.
01:04 --> 01:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Get into it.
01:05 --> 01:07 [SPEAKER_01]: I listened to it yesterday and it was fantastic.
01:07 --> 01:08 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, thank you.
01:09 --> 01:09 [SPEAKER_05]: Thank you.
01:09 --> 01:10 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, we're this time.
01:11 --> 01:12 [SPEAKER_05]: We're not going to do spoiler free.
01:12 --> 01:16 [SPEAKER_05]: We're going to just jump right into the first episode of season two.
01:16 --> 01:24 [SPEAKER_05]: All spoilers on the table and that does include everything else like in the DCU, DCEU, anything DC movies, TV comics, all of that.
01:26 --> 01:28 [SPEAKER_05]: So let's check in.
01:28 --> 01:31 [SPEAKER_05]: John, what do you think the ties the grind, the title of the episode?
01:32 --> 01:37 [SPEAKER_05]: Obviously, you know, James gun loves his funny titles, but what do you think this means the ties the grind?
01:39 --> 01:42 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, wow, what an opening question, Alicia.
01:48 --> 01:51 [SPEAKER_05]: And why is forty-two demeaning of life the universe of everything?
01:52 --> 01:55 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm on my first cup of coffee and there's nothing in it.
01:55 --> 01:57 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm a mercy.
01:57 --> 02:07 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, wow, I think that watching that episode, just what holds people together, what brings them together, what
02:08 --> 02:37 [SPEAKER_03]: tears them apart and I thought about that you know the family structure that Chris has when he stepped through the door and saw this other family structure that he didn't have right and how those people were tied together in a way that he seemingly never had and he's trying to get with you know the eleven street crew so yeah I think that's what to me that's
02:38 --> 02:40 [SPEAKER_03]: that would be the meaning of the title for me.
02:41 --> 02:42 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
02:42 --> 02:42 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
02:43 --> 02:44 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I think that makes sense.
02:45 --> 02:49 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, we know that this is a show that's about relationships.
02:50 --> 02:54 [SPEAKER_05]: And this is about the good and the bad of it, I suppose.
02:54 --> 03:00 [SPEAKER_05]: You know, how you can be corrupted by someone like Archie Smith or, you know, how love and debut, I suppose.
03:01 --> 03:03 [SPEAKER_05]: Erin, here's a question for you.
03:03 --> 03:07 [SPEAKER_05]: So you have covered the boys on Radioactive Ramblings and
03:08 --> 03:10 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, absolutely.
03:10 --> 03:11 [SPEAKER_05]: Are you guys injured, Gen V, by the way?
03:12 --> 03:12 [SPEAKER_05]: Coming up?
03:12 --> 03:12 [SPEAKER_01]: We are.
03:12 --> 03:19 [SPEAKER_01]: We're definitely going to do Gen V. And that might overlap a little bit with our fallout coverage, but people are working over time during that.
03:20 --> 03:22 [SPEAKER_03]: The fallout coverage was good too, so.
03:22 --> 03:24 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, thank you.
03:24 --> 03:26 [SPEAKER_05]: Also, John just started.
03:26 --> 03:28 [SPEAKER_05]: He just watched the first piecemaker episode.
03:28 --> 03:31 [SPEAKER_05]: And he, at his first take was like, is it like the boys?
03:32 --> 03:33 [SPEAKER_05]: And what do you think?
03:33 --> 03:35 [SPEAKER_05]: How is piecemaker like or not like the boys?
03:36 --> 03:41 [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's like the boys in that it's a very violent kind of played up universe.
03:42 --> 03:47 [SPEAKER_01]: But at the same time, it doesn't have that same twist of all of the heroes being horrible people.
03:47 --> 03:55 [SPEAKER_01]: They make a lot of jokes about it, but it's not a world that's inherently broken and over the top and the way that the boys is.
03:56 --> 03:56 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
03:57 --> 03:59 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I think it has more heart, I would say.
04:00 --> 04:01 [SPEAKER_01]: or sure, yeah.
04:01 --> 04:05 [SPEAKER_01]: And if piecemaker were in the boys, he would not have any kind of redemption.
04:05 --> 04:08 [SPEAKER_01]: He would just be full and evil the whole way through.
04:09 --> 04:09 [SPEAKER_05]: That's true.
04:09 --> 04:10 [SPEAKER_05]: He wouldn't be questioning it.
04:12 --> 04:18 [SPEAKER_05]: Aaron, while we're talking to you, since we didn't get to check in on you, what's your story with piecemaker?
04:18 --> 04:22 [SPEAKER_05]: You were interested in talking about it.
04:22 --> 04:25 [SPEAKER_05]: So what drew you to this show?
04:25 --> 04:26 [SPEAKER_05]: Did you watch it live?
04:27 --> 04:27 [SPEAKER_05]: What do you like about it?
04:28 --> 04:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I did watch it live.
04:30 --> 04:32 [SPEAKER_01]: I came to the party a little bit late.
04:32 --> 04:32 [SPEAKER_01]: I think I...
04:34 --> 04:43 [SPEAKER_01]: came to it about halfway through the run in season one because of different podcasts that I enjoyed was watching it and it just sounded like a fun time.
04:43 --> 04:52 [SPEAKER_01]: I watched suicide squad and definitely enjoyed that, but I honestly had no interest in a show about piecemaker until I admit it was good.
04:52 --> 05:01 [SPEAKER_01]: I thought such a strange character to be making a spin off about and they just proved me completely wrong and I was so glad that I ended up hopping on that bandwagon.
05:02 --> 05:04 [SPEAKER_05]: And any favorite characters?
05:05 --> 05:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Vigilante is definitely up there.
05:08 --> 05:11 [SPEAKER_01]: I thought that season one, Murn was a really interesting character.
05:11 --> 05:16 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sad that he's not gonna have much of a present or not really any presence in season two.
05:16 --> 05:18 [SPEAKER_01]: At a bio is awesome.
05:19 --> 05:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Didn't have a whole lot of love for hardcore it.
05:21 --> 05:24 [SPEAKER_01]: I think I'm in the same boat as you, John.
05:24 --> 05:26 [SPEAKER_01]: I think I didn't get quite enough.
05:26 --> 05:27 [SPEAKER_03]: Look at the board.
05:28 --> 05:30 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm the captain of the anti-falk glitch.
05:30 --> 05:31 [SPEAKER_03]: That's right.
05:32 --> 05:50 [SPEAKER_05]: There's just so many characters to love in this series and they do a good job of making sociopaths lovable Yeah, so you said that you were a fan of the suicide squad the twenty twenty one James gun one How about the new DCU so far?
05:50 --> 05:53 [SPEAKER_05]: Have you watched creature commandos and Superman and what do you think overall?
05:54 --> 05:55 [SPEAKER_01]: I have not.
05:55 --> 05:57 [SPEAKER_01]: I've really only got into this.
05:58 --> 06:00 [SPEAKER_01]: I really need to go to Superman.
06:00 --> 06:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Everyone that's seen it has told me.
06:02 --> 06:04 [SPEAKER_01]: It's the best movie I've seen all year.
06:04 --> 06:05 [SPEAKER_01]: You have to watch it.
06:06 --> 06:11 [SPEAKER_01]: My choice is the other day when I went to the movie theater, we're fantastic for or Superman.
06:11 --> 06:13 [SPEAKER_01]: So I chose Fantastic Four.
06:13 --> 06:15 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, can't go wrong again.
06:15 --> 06:15 [SPEAKER_05]: All right.
06:15 --> 06:16 [SPEAKER_05]: Would you think of Fantastic Four?
06:16 --> 06:17 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
06:17 --> 06:18 [SPEAKER_01]: It was awesome.
06:18 --> 06:20 [SPEAKER_01]: It was a return to form for a Marvel movie.
06:20 --> 06:21 [SPEAKER_01]: I loved it.
06:22 --> 06:22 [SPEAKER_05]: Cool.
06:24 --> 06:24 [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
06:24 --> 06:28 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, then you got to get on Superman because we're going to talk about some crossover stuff this episode, too.
06:29 --> 06:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
06:29 --> 06:30 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't mind spoilers.
06:30 --> 06:31 [SPEAKER_01]: So go for that.
06:32 --> 06:34 [SPEAKER_05]: All right.
06:34 --> 06:48 [SPEAKER_05]: So this episode was about peacemaker interviews for a spot in the Justice Gang while hardcore struggles to find work on the heels about a bios bombshell press conference economists is forced to surveil peacekeeper underric flag seniors new management.
06:49 --> 06:50 [SPEAKER_05]: And Sean, let's start with you.
06:50 --> 06:54 [SPEAKER_05]: What is your overall hot takes about the ties that grind?
06:54 --> 06:58 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I thought it was a nice fun start to the season.
06:58 --> 07:05 [SPEAKER_03]: I have questions about things, which is always a good thing for episode one for me.
07:06 --> 07:09 [SPEAKER_03]: One in to see get some answers to some things.
07:10 --> 07:13 [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, I thoroughly enjoyed this first episode.
07:17 --> 07:26 [SPEAKER_03]: Since, you know, the tie-ins with the, when we would talk about the episode more, but the tie-ins that they had with soups, I thought was really cool.
07:27 --> 07:28 [SPEAKER_03]: They did it well.
07:28 --> 07:32 [SPEAKER_03]: It wasn't like, you know, hit you over the head of a hammer, you know, type of thing.
07:32 --> 07:35 [SPEAKER_03]: So it was really, you know, played well into the story.
07:36 --> 07:36 [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
07:37 --> 07:41 [SPEAKER_03]: I think I get points for saying that like senior knows.
07:43 --> 07:44 [SPEAKER_05]: I did it further in the notes.
07:44 --> 07:45 [SPEAKER_05]: I gave you points.
07:45 --> 07:46 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
07:46 --> 07:46 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
07:47 --> 07:47 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
07:47 --> 07:47 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
07:48 --> 07:49 [SPEAKER_03]: Black senior knows.
07:49 --> 07:53 [SPEAKER_03]: So that was a nice, you know, I'm glad they didn't drag that out.
07:53 --> 07:59 [SPEAKER_03]: Like whether either he knows or he doesn't and they let us know immediately and now is very happy about that.
08:12 --> 08:20 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't like her, but I recognize that this is someone who's screaming off of some sort of assistance from somebody somewhere at some place.
08:22 --> 08:27 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I hope she gets it because she's just as fucked up as Chris is mentally.
08:27 --> 08:29 [SPEAKER_05]: We don't, perhaps even more, yeah.
08:29 --> 08:30 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
08:30 --> 08:38 [SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, we don't, we kind of know why Chris is the way that he is, but I'm not sure I know why alcohol is the way that she is.
08:39 --> 08:39 [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
08:39 --> 08:49 [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm hoping to get some clue into what makes her this way, what, you know, how is she formed to be this person that she is?
08:50 --> 08:51 [SPEAKER_03]: because she's terrifying.
08:54 --> 08:55 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
08:55 --> 08:59 [SPEAKER_03]: And what can I say about, you know, graveyard?
08:59 --> 09:02 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, you see a badass?
09:02 --> 09:04 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, he has a gun.
09:04 --> 09:06 [SPEAKER_03]: He got almost has a gun now.
09:06 --> 09:12 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, he's walking around surveilling people, doing all sorts of, you know, undercover work.
09:13 --> 09:22 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm trying to see if this guy is really going to start, you know, taking what he did in season one up to a whole new level.
09:22 --> 09:31 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, is he going to be on the level of everybody else on the show as tremor in terms of, you know, just straight up, bang, bang everybody in sight.
09:32 --> 09:32 [SPEAKER_03]: I would have seen it.
09:33 --> 09:33 [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah.
09:34 --> 09:35 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
09:35 --> 09:38 [SPEAKER_05]: I agree with pretty much all of those points.
09:39 --> 09:42 [SPEAKER_05]: By the way, I just want to apologize for any background noise and my side of the mic.
09:42 --> 09:48 [SPEAKER_05]: It's the peak day of a once and five year festival that takes place in my neighborhood.
09:48 --> 09:52 [SPEAKER_05]: There's something about side and it's getting real out of what's in the school.
09:53 --> 09:53 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
09:54 --> 09:59 [SPEAKER_05]: So, okay, Erin, you came into this season then obviously with high expectations.
10:00 --> 10:02 [SPEAKER_05]: Did this first episode meet them?
10:04 --> 10:07 [SPEAKER_01]: I would say it lived up for the most part.
10:07 --> 10:14 [SPEAKER_01]: We got to a certain point where I thought the episode was almost over when Chris is walking through all of the doors.
10:15 --> 10:17 [SPEAKER_01]: And then it just kept on going.
10:17 --> 10:20 [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, wow, we got a lot of content in this first episode.
10:21 --> 10:25 [SPEAKER_01]: But a few of the plot lines are worrying me a little bit.
10:25 --> 10:34 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know that I really care for an ongoing good, auggy and living Keith plot line, the whole
10:35 --> 10:36 [SPEAKER_01]: multiverse side of that.
10:36 --> 10:40 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that it would be more interesting for Chris to confront his demons in other ways.
10:42 --> 10:44 [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
10:44 --> 10:54 [SPEAKER_01]: On a less serious note, I want to know how vigilante is still in practice as a possible way when he's cursing at his boss and going out for thirty minute phone calls with a con of most.
10:55 --> 10:57 [SPEAKER_05]: And crashing his wedding uninvited.
10:57 --> 10:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my, that would be the last straw.
10:59 --> 11:00 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
11:00 --> 11:02 [SPEAKER_03]: That's what what did the say about what's his name?
11:03 --> 11:04 [SPEAKER_03]: that he keeps on on that.
11:05 --> 11:08 [SPEAKER_01]: He must have some kind of affinity for vigilance.
11:08 --> 11:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
11:09 --> 11:10 [SPEAKER_03]: That's what the reason, what does it say about him?
11:10 --> 11:14 [SPEAKER_05]: He's secretly like me.
11:16 --> 11:17 [SPEAKER_01]: And my favorite kind of retcon.
11:17 --> 11:19 [SPEAKER_01]: It's one that isn't really acknowledged.
11:19 --> 11:24 [SPEAKER_01]: So I thought that the flashback being a retcon version of the ending of season one was just awesome.
11:24 --> 11:25 [SPEAKER_01]: It was so well done.
11:27 --> 11:29 [SPEAKER_01]: We don't need a whole explanation of, oh, we're in a different universe.
11:29 --> 11:30 [SPEAKER_01]: We're here, we're there.
11:30 --> 11:31 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that
11:32 --> 11:34 [SPEAKER_01]: they did it, they moved on and now this is where we are.
11:34 --> 11:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
11:36 --> 11:41 [SPEAKER_01]: And the fight choreography for the hardcore part fight, that might have been my favorite part of the episode.
11:42 --> 11:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was just really well.
11:44 --> 11:47 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that was, I mean, yeah, the fight choreography feels really real in this.
11:47 --> 11:54 [SPEAKER_05]: So you feel the bones crunching and it doesn't because that is a pet peeve of mine when you really feel like it's staged.
11:54 --> 11:56 [SPEAKER_05]: And in a case, it feels visceral.
11:56 --> 11:57 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
11:59 --> 12:05 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, I agree with most of the above, like, I want, I'm hoping for more vigilante.
12:05 --> 12:06 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm looking forward to that.
12:07 --> 12:07 [SPEAKER_05]: Obviously, that's coming.
12:07 --> 12:08 [SPEAKER_05]: Please, and thank you.
12:09 --> 12:10 [SPEAKER_05]: Everybody's favorite.
12:11 --> 12:15 [SPEAKER_05]: I, yeah, I am glad that they did not prolong any of these things.
12:15 --> 12:19 [SPEAKER_05]: Like, indeed, just ripping off the band aid and starting the season running with the whole
12:20 --> 12:26 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, with setting up where they are at this point with setting up this other universe.
12:27 --> 12:35 [SPEAKER_05]: I thought, you know, I have to sing the trailers that Chris might wrestle with killing his other self to take his place, but this is, I'm glad it's just over with and he's like, what?
12:36 --> 12:37 [SPEAKER_05]: Opening, what do I do with that?
12:39 --> 12:54 [SPEAKER_05]: And yeah, I mean, I think it might take a bit for this season warm-up, but we were talking about season one, grew for the more than forty percent while it was airing and airing your positive of that as well.
12:55 --> 12:59 [SPEAKER_05]: And I have a feeling this is going to be because it's such a dense TV landscape.
12:59 --> 13:03 [SPEAKER_05]: It's going to take a couple episodes for this to really warm up.
13:03 --> 13:12 [SPEAKER_05]: But I think that they are laying the foundations here for what's going to be really satisfying multiversal story.
13:12 --> 13:13 [SPEAKER_05]: And I am
13:14 --> 13:31 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm in the camp of like everybody please stop hating on multiversal storytelling and I've been into this stuff since I think I've read my first two multivers stories in a way or extra dimensional stories flatland and the boy who reversed me I when I was like twelve I read them really close to each other
13:31 --> 13:34 [SPEAKER_05]: And they blew my mind, and I've been obsessed ever since.
13:34 --> 13:41 [SPEAKER_05]: And I'm like, now we might finally be getting, you know, like everything everywhere all at once, that was very satisfying multiverse hotel.
13:43 --> 13:47 [SPEAKER_05]: The comic books deliver a lot of satisfying multiversal storytelling.
13:47 --> 13:48 [SPEAKER_03]: They do, for sure.
13:49 --> 14:08 [SPEAKER_05]: And so this feels like it might be playing on those promises because what makes multiversal storytelling interesting to me is the question, I do sit in my day and think about like, oh, what about the Alicia who wins a Columbia and studied screenwriting instead of what I did, you know?
14:08 --> 14:09 [SPEAKER_05]: What happened with her?
14:09 --> 14:10 [SPEAKER_05]: What is she doing?
14:11 --> 14:12 [SPEAKER_05]: Now at this point in her life, things like that.
14:13 --> 14:20 [SPEAKER_05]: And, yeah, this is really exploring that, the emotional aspects, the how we're shaped by circumstance aspects.
14:22 --> 14:23 [SPEAKER_05]: So I think it's going to go deep.
14:23 --> 14:25 [SPEAKER_05]: We already got John Cena crying.
14:25 --> 14:26 [SPEAKER_05]: And episode one.
14:28 --> 14:33 [SPEAKER_03]: And let me shout out, let me shout out John Cena, since you just bought him up because I was
14:35 --> 14:40 [SPEAKER_03]: not in the camp of even thinking that he could pull something like this off.
14:41 --> 14:52 [SPEAKER_03]: And to me, it's amazing that the range that he shows in this show is truly amazing.
14:52 --> 14:58 [SPEAKER_03]: I never would have considered him to be able to pull any of this
14:59 --> 15:09 [SPEAKER_03]: any of the seeds that he's pulling and making me feel like, wow, like, it's kudos to him because he's an actor.
15:11 --> 15:16 [SPEAKER_03]: He's an actor and he's just amazing in this show, really.
15:17 --> 15:17 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
15:17 --> 15:18 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
15:18 --> 15:21 [SPEAKER_05]: He really brings this cartoon to life, yeah.
15:21 --> 15:24 [SPEAKER_05]: Aaron, were you a fan of the season one dance opening?
15:25 --> 15:26 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it was my favorite part.
15:26 --> 15:28 [SPEAKER_01]: I never skip it.
15:28 --> 15:29 [SPEAKER_05]: That's the correct answer.
15:29 --> 15:30 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
15:30 --> 15:33 [SPEAKER_01]: And just the soundtrack is so magnificent.
15:33 --> 15:37 [SPEAKER_01]: James gun always puts a killer soundtrack in anything he does.
15:38 --> 15:39 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
15:40 --> 15:49 [SPEAKER_05]: And would you think of, we'll talk about, we'll talk about the new one more toward the end, because there's some clues about what's coming.
15:49 --> 15:51 [SPEAKER_05]: But what did you think about it over all the new one?
15:51 --> 15:52 [SPEAKER_05]: Are you happy with it?
15:53 --> 15:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it felt a lot bigger.
15:56 --> 16:00 [SPEAKER_01]: And I feel like we got a good idea of which characters are important.
16:00 --> 16:07 [SPEAKER_01]: It's almost like that beginning dancing is a spoiler for the rest of the series of who's going to be important and who's not.
16:07 --> 16:08 [SPEAKER_01]: And I kind of appreciate that.
16:10 --> 16:12 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so wait, who was not in it?
16:12 --> 16:20 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, okay, one person who was not in it that I clocked was Adabair's wife Kia from last season.
16:21 --> 16:22 [SPEAKER_05]: She was in last season.
16:22 --> 16:26 [SPEAKER_05]: It's been not this one, but then you never know because there were some characters that just didn't show up and yeah.
16:27 --> 16:28 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know, I don't know, anyway.
16:30 --> 16:33 [SPEAKER_05]: So yeah, the season, all the episodes were written by James Gunn.
16:33 --> 16:39 [SPEAKER_05]: This one was directed by him, although he did share the directing duties with others on other episodes.
16:41 --> 16:51 [SPEAKER_05]: This, the multiversal element of this story, it's partially also inspired by Philip Roth's The Counter-Life, apparently, which I haven't read, but now I want to.
16:51 --> 16:52 [SPEAKER_05]: It sounds quite interesting.
16:54 --> 16:57 [SPEAKER_05]: Apparently it was going to be more so like that that they decided to go in this direction.
16:58 --> 17:06 [SPEAKER_05]: I think I think they're setting up for emotional payoff and also just for the explaining how all the DC stuff connects.
17:08 --> 17:12 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, Jean, how long is the episode and what are people saying?
17:13 --> 17:17 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, well, this first episode was forty four minutes.
17:18 --> 17:19 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, rotten tomatoes.
17:20 --> 17:21 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, forty four minutes.
17:22 --> 17:23 [SPEAKER_03]: No, and it was pretty good.
17:23 --> 17:27 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, rotten tomatoes has a ninety eight.
17:27 --> 17:31 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, season one was a ninety three.
17:32 --> 17:32 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
17:32 --> 17:36 [SPEAKER_03]: So that's, yeah, that's a market change.
17:38 --> 18:02 [SPEAKER_03]: Metacritic has it after seventy eight season one what's a seventy which is again pretty High praise when we compare them season the season So yeah, I think we don't know how long episode six seven eight will be but season episode two is gonna be forty eight minutes
18:03 --> 18:09 [SPEAKER_03]: And then the next two episodes three and four under and five are really under forty minutes.
18:09 --> 18:16 [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm interested to see how that plays in with the story telling like I don't want things to get crammed and you know
18:17 --> 18:32 [SPEAKER_05]: Right, I guess it makes sense to have the longer, again, as you said, we don't know the length of the last three episodes because James Gunn is keeping them under lock and key because apparently they're respoilers, major spoilers.
18:32 --> 18:36 [SPEAKER_05]: So I'm wondering if we're going to get some crazy crossovers or something.
18:37 --> 18:46 [SPEAKER_05]: But I think it makes sense to have the first two episodes be on the longer end because it gives you time to establish things.
18:47 --> 18:56 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, especially with the multi-versal angle and the new characters from the new DCU, they kind of have to establish this new universe for us.
18:57 --> 18:59 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly.
19:00 --> 19:02 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, I mean, off to a good start.
19:02 --> 19:07 [SPEAKER_05]: So let's take a quick break and when we get back, let's talk about what actually happened in the episode.
19:07 --> 19:09 [SPEAKER_05]: See you in second.
19:22 --> 19:30 [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, so previously in the DCU, which John, what did you think about the, you know, catch you up retcon?
19:31 --> 19:34 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, retcon recap.
19:34 --> 19:43 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I'm cool with it, but you know, you know, I feel, you know, the, you didn't like that, uh, Caval was replaced with another Superman.
19:43 --> 19:45 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, man, you know, it's all good.
19:46 --> 19:46 [SPEAKER_03]: It's all good.
19:47 --> 19:48 [SPEAKER_03]: I love this new soup.
19:48 --> 19:49 [SPEAKER_03]: Don't get me wrong.
19:49 --> 19:50 [SPEAKER_03]: The Caval was my guy.
19:52 --> 19:56 [SPEAKER_03]: It was a bit of sweet moment for me, but it is what it is, on to the new.
19:57 --> 19:58 [SPEAKER_05]: But to make up for that.
19:58 --> 20:02 [SPEAKER_05]: So, I mean, cordon sweat, as I've already said, it's my Superman.
20:02 --> 20:04 [SPEAKER_05]: Do you use your overall air?
20:04 --> 20:05 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, you haven't seen it yet.
20:05 --> 20:06 [SPEAKER_05]: That's where I've seen it.
20:06 --> 20:07 [SPEAKER_01]: I've seen it now.
20:08 --> 20:08 [SPEAKER_03]: Who's your Superman?
20:09 --> 20:12 [SPEAKER_01]: I think I'm already adopting cordon sweat as my wife.
20:12 --> 20:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Superman.
20:13 --> 20:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, even though I haven't seen it,
20:15 --> 20:17 [SPEAKER_01]: I like Henry Cavalle a lot as an actor.
20:17 --> 20:20 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that he puts his all into everything that he's in.
20:20 --> 20:25 [SPEAKER_01]: You can tell he loves the character, but I just have such a disconnect from the Snyder verse.
20:25 --> 20:29 [SPEAKER_01]: I did not mess with that era of superhero movies whatsoever.
20:30 --> 20:33 [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm totally on board embracing the new.
20:36 --> 20:41 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, I like that corn sweats, you know, again, we did a whole episode about Superman.
20:41 --> 20:53 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't link it in the show, but I like, I like, you know, this is a large part how James gun is writing and directing and also, of course, and also,
20:54 --> 20:56 [SPEAKER_05]: in how David corns fight himself.
20:56 --> 21:03 [SPEAKER_05]: It's portraying it, but that mix of like being that hopeful boy scoutish, but with vulnerability and feels emotions.
21:04 --> 21:06 [SPEAKER_05]: And yeah, just like this take on Superman a lot.
21:07 --> 21:10 [SPEAKER_05]: and he's embodying it well in my personal opinion.
21:10 --> 21:11 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, anyway.
21:12 --> 21:24 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, fun fact, though, I learned in an interview recently that Peter Safron, the seldom spoken of business side of the, you know, he's the partner of James Gun at the head of DC Studios.
21:24 --> 21:27 [SPEAKER_05]: He's the one who actually pushed to start with Superman.
21:27 --> 21:29 [SPEAKER_05]: He's like, you got to start with Superman, you have to.
21:31 --> 21:31 [SPEAKER_03]: Make sense.
21:32 --> 21:32 [SPEAKER_03]: Make sense.
21:32 --> 21:34 [SPEAKER_05]: But coming from the business side, that's promising, right?
21:35 --> 21:41 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, yeah, because he, I think he gets it, you know, just by doing that for me, he gets it.
21:42 --> 21:47 [SPEAKER_03]: Like you have to, like the DC universe has to start with soups.
21:48 --> 21:52 [SPEAKER_05]: It has to start with Batman, but yeah.
21:52 --> 21:55 [SPEAKER_03]: I know, but soups is the guy that you have to start with.
21:55 --> 22:02 [SPEAKER_03]: If you're going off on a new tangent, you're telling these new stories about these characters, you have to start with soups.
22:02 --> 22:03 [SPEAKER_05]: Right.
22:03 --> 22:09 [SPEAKER_05]: And for anyone who's confused, the Batman is in a separate universe, and we talk about that culture episodes.
22:09 --> 22:12 [SPEAKER_05]: But we'll see, we'll see what happens in this one.
22:12 --> 22:15 [SPEAKER_05]: It hasn't been rolled out to have been anyway.
22:17 --> 22:28 [SPEAKER_05]: But the DCEU, Caval and Ben Affleck, and all of those, that was, they appeared at the end of season one as a Justice League.
22:28 --> 22:30 [SPEAKER_05]: And we saw the silhouettes of the DCEU.
22:32 --> 22:33 [SPEAKER_05]: you, Justice League.
22:33 --> 22:37 [SPEAKER_05]: So it's for a place here with the DCU Justice Gang.
22:38 --> 22:51 [SPEAKER_05]: So you not only get corn sweats great, but you also get Mr. Terrific and Guy Gardner's Green Lantern and Hawke girl and kind of a surprise to see in there, but I guess not super girl.
22:52 --> 22:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, really great.
22:53 --> 22:54 [SPEAKER_01]: That was a surprise.
22:55 --> 22:57 [SPEAKER_05]: You were saying, no, I guess not.
22:59 --> 23:01 [SPEAKER_05]: We know she must have been around for a minute.
23:02 --> 23:04 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, I wasn't surprised this year, so yeah.
23:05 --> 23:05 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
23:06 --> 23:13 [SPEAKER_05]: And then the jokes about about Aquaman fucking fish is replaced with jokes about guy gardeners.
23:14 --> 23:21 [SPEAKER_05]: Peacemakers as he puked on him on writing on a magic green carpet ride and guy liked it and guy says that's false.
23:22 --> 23:23 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't believe guy.
23:25 --> 23:26 [SPEAKER_03]: I believe Chris in this instance.
23:30 --> 23:30 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh.
23:33 --> 23:45 [SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, it's just a reminder that that scene, those scenes were sub-din happened before the events of Superman and now this episode we're talking about today happened after very shortly after the events of Superman.
23:46 --> 23:49 [SPEAKER_05]: So I guess Erin, you answer the question.
23:49 --> 23:53 [SPEAKER_05]: Do you think people need to have seen Superman before they watch season two of piecemaker?
23:53 --> 23:56 [SPEAKER_05]: I guess you didn't feel like you missed anything for that.
23:57 --> 23:59 [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't feel like I missed anything.
24:00 --> 24:07 [SPEAKER_01]: definitely think that a little bit of context could have been added for me if I had seen the movie just with the recap.
24:07 --> 24:13 [SPEAKER_01]: And I want to say they make an off-handed reference to Lex Luther at some point during the episode.
24:14 --> 24:18 [SPEAKER_01]: I think they talk about him with the dimensional doors and whatnot.
24:18 --> 24:21 [SPEAKER_01]: So that part of it I was a little confused.
24:21 --> 24:27 [SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't sure what they were referencing, but it wasn't anything that hindered me from enjoying the episode.
24:27 --> 24:29 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that if you haven't seen Superman,
24:29 --> 24:32 [SPEAKER_01]: go right ahead and watch peacemaker and you will be totally happy.
24:32 --> 24:34 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, okay.
24:35 --> 24:37 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, let's get into the episode itself.
24:37 --> 24:41 [SPEAKER_05]: We're going to talk about it thought arc by plot arc not seen by scenes.
24:41 --> 24:43 [SPEAKER_05]: So we might discuss some scenes out of order.
24:44 --> 24:46 [SPEAKER_05]: John, do you want to set us up for peacemakers audience?
24:46 --> 24:51 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, out of bio drives Chris Smith aka peacemaker to an audition with the Justice game.
24:52 --> 24:58 [SPEAKER_03]: Now that he's a superhero who saved the world from the butterflies and all that after enduring a slew of insults
24:59 --> 25:00 [SPEAKER_03]: Thanks to a faulty PA system.
25:01 --> 25:05 [SPEAKER_03]: Peace maker walks out of the interview, totally dejected.
25:07 --> 25:10 [SPEAKER_05]: Why do you think he wants to join the Justice Gang in the first place?
25:10 --> 25:13 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, the German city.
25:14 --> 25:15 [SPEAKER_03]: It's a mess.
25:15 --> 25:19 [SPEAKER_03]: Him as a superhero for real for real.
25:19 --> 25:20 [SPEAKER_03]: He's not in the shadows.
25:21 --> 25:24 [SPEAKER_03]: He's not working covertly to kill people.
25:24 --> 25:28 [SPEAKER_03]: Now he's, you know, part of a team that people recognize
25:28 --> 25:31 [SPEAKER_03]: as doing good, which is what he wants.
25:31 --> 25:34 [SPEAKER_03]: He wants people to see him as doing good.
25:35 --> 25:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know if he can ever escape that legacy that his father settled to him with sort of guilt by association and probably guilt by doing things that his father told him to, but he definitely wants to try.
25:50 --> 25:51 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's
25:52 --> 25:55 [SPEAKER_01]: a good thing for him to be doing.
25:55 --> 25:58 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't necessarily think he'll ever escape that stink though.
25:59 --> 26:01 [SPEAKER_05]: Mm-hmm.
26:01 --> 26:05 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's that is an interesting thing for them to explore with the alternate universe, too.
26:06 --> 26:08 [SPEAKER_05]: You know, does he not have that stink on him?
26:08 --> 26:10 [SPEAKER_05]: Does he have a different stink on him, you know?
26:11 --> 26:11 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
26:12 --> 26:14 [SPEAKER_05]: I just don't believe things are so perfect over there as they seem.
26:15 --> 26:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe.
26:16 --> 26:16 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
26:16 --> 26:17 [SPEAKER_01]: For sure.
26:18 --> 26:21 [SPEAKER_05]: Um, so we saw white rabbit leaving in tears.
26:22 --> 26:23 [SPEAKER_05]: And of course, I had to look it up.
26:23 --> 26:25 [SPEAKER_05]: I was like, who is this playboy bunny looking superior?
26:27 --> 26:34 [SPEAKER_05]: And apparently it's Jaina Hudson, daughter of an American diplomat and Bollywood actress who has a split persona.
26:34 --> 26:41 [SPEAKER_05]: So it's kind of like a more limited version of duplicated from invincible and moonlight from Marvel, but
26:42 --> 26:46 [SPEAKER_05]: literally whitewashing because when she goes into the superhero she gets blonde.
26:47 --> 26:55 [SPEAKER_05]: She's like a half Indian woman from India and when she goes into superhero form she becomes a light skin blonde woman.
26:55 --> 27:10 [SPEAKER_05]: So I'm very I mean it's a typical deep catalog pool from James gun, but I wonder what he's if we're gonna see this character if this is just like here's a weirdo character or
27:11 --> 27:12 [SPEAKER_05]: if that means something more.
27:13 --> 27:23 [SPEAKER_05]: I did notice when peacemakers watching her go and she's in this kind of playboy bunny type costume, he's not looking at her in a sexual way.
27:23 --> 27:26 [SPEAKER_05]: He's just looking at her like, what the hell is going on?
27:27 --> 27:27 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
27:29 --> 27:29 [SPEAKER_05]: So is that growth?
27:33 --> 27:34 [SPEAKER_05]: Which is his nerve.
27:35 --> 27:37 [SPEAKER_03]: I think his nerves, I don't know if it's growth.
27:38 --> 27:40 [SPEAKER_05]: I'll give him credit for growth.
27:43 --> 27:48 [SPEAKER_05]: Um, so there were three characters in this scene that we met in Superman.
27:48 --> 27:51 [SPEAKER_05]: And so Aaron was this your note, who is Maxwell Lord?
27:52 --> 27:53 [SPEAKER_05]: Is that from you?
27:53 --> 27:55 [SPEAKER_03]: That was man.
27:55 --> 27:56 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, that was you.
27:56 --> 27:56 [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
27:56 --> 27:56 [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
27:56 --> 27:58 [SPEAKER_05]: Do you know the answer to it?
27:58 --> 27:59 [SPEAKER_05]: Do you want to answer it?
27:59 --> 28:03 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, the thing is I know to answer to it, right?
28:03 --> 28:03 [SPEAKER_05]: Uh-huh.
28:03 --> 28:03 [SPEAKER_05]: Uh-huh.
28:04 --> 28:06 [SPEAKER_03]: Next Lord is, you know, he
28:08 --> 28:12 [SPEAKER_03]: Think of Tony Stark without the Iron Man suit, right?
28:12 --> 28:15 [SPEAKER_03]: In the beginning, he has a long history in DC Comics.
28:17 --> 28:24 [SPEAKER_03]: Father was committed suicide, but it was committed to helping people, so he wants to do the same thing.
28:25 --> 28:36 [SPEAKER_03]: But then in different DC sagas like crisis on infinite Earth's invasion, all sorts of different things happen in DC Comics.
28:36 --> 28:51 [SPEAKER_03]: uh at one point he's like a robot replace but now he's a flesh and blood person with metagene powers to control my control people that's unlocked but he was killed by um
28:53 --> 29:21 [SPEAKER_03]: Wonder Woman because he was about to take over the world and kill all the heroes big story with you know all sorts of layers It's a lot it's a lot he actually killed Ted Cored another hero And if you ever heard of brother I in the Omex this was a
29:21 --> 29:25 [SPEAKER_03]: program that Batman had installed to watch the world.
29:27 --> 29:36 [SPEAKER_03]: And he was able to take this program over and the OMAX were going to, you know, basically destroy everything.
29:36 --> 29:37 [SPEAKER_03]: Wonder Woman kills him.
29:38 --> 29:40 [SPEAKER_05]: Sounds like a program Iron Man would like.
29:41 --> 29:42 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
29:43 --> 29:44 [SPEAKER_03]: Talk about it.
29:44 --> 29:44 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
29:44 --> 29:44 [SPEAKER_03]: You're right.
29:46 --> 29:48 [SPEAKER_03]: But the interesting thing is,
29:49 --> 29:52 [SPEAKER_03]: I know Max Lloyd as a villain, right?
29:53 --> 29:55 [SPEAKER_03]: Gun was asked about that.
29:57 --> 29:59 [SPEAKER_03]: And he had a response.
29:59 --> 29:59 [SPEAKER_03]: Hold on.
29:59 --> 30:01 [SPEAKER_03]: Let me bring it up.
30:02 --> 30:09 [SPEAKER_03]: So someone asked Gun, let me credit the person in Jeremiah, twenty eight, eighty two.
30:09 --> 30:10 [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, Mr. Gun.
30:10 --> 30:13 [SPEAKER_03]: So the guy that's funding the Justice Gang is Maxwell Lord.
30:14 --> 30:16 [SPEAKER_03]: Isn't that character of villain in the comics?
30:17 --> 30:30 [SPEAKER_03]: James Gunn response term, and says Max was recanted as sort of a muscular evil doer, after originally being conceived by Jim Demattis as a multi-layered character who was morally great.
30:31 --> 30:36 [SPEAKER_03]: Along with skinny Amanda Waller, it wasn't one of my favorite comic reimaginings.
30:37 --> 30:44 [SPEAKER_03]: All Max is inspired by the original version, so don't be waiting for him to shoot Blue Beetle in the face.
30:45 --> 30:45 [SPEAKER_05]: Interesting.
30:46 --> 30:47 [SPEAKER_05]: Interesting.
30:47 --> 31:00 [SPEAKER_05]: So we should say he's played in the DCU by Sean Gun James Guns brother who's he also plays the Weasel and he did in creature commandos the What's his face?
31:01 --> 31:02 [SPEAKER_05]: It's the robot's name again.
31:03 --> 31:04 [SPEAKER_03]: GI.
31:04 --> 31:06 [SPEAKER_05]: GI robot.
31:06 --> 31:08 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, it's your robot.
31:08 --> 31:09 [SPEAKER_03]: I think so.
31:10 --> 31:13 [SPEAKER_03]: My future commando is not online.
31:13 --> 31:15 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, they're... Yeah, yeah, okay.
31:15 --> 31:16 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, GR robot.
31:18 --> 31:19 [SPEAKER_05]: But those of course are just his voice.
31:19 --> 31:22 [SPEAKER_05]: So he can play a different character that shows his face.
31:23 --> 31:24 [SPEAKER_05]: But we've seen him.
31:24 --> 31:26 [SPEAKER_05]: We saw he got to have a cameo in Superman.
31:26 --> 31:37 [SPEAKER_05]: And we saw that, you know, in piecemaker and in Superman, if you pay attention to the technology that they're using, it will often be branded Lord Tech.
31:37 --> 31:38 [SPEAKER_05]: which is obviously his company.
31:39 --> 31:47 [SPEAKER_05]: And we know he's a sponsor, the sponsor of the Justice Gang and the DCU, so it's not a surprise to see him there at auditions.
31:48 --> 31:52 [SPEAKER_03]: And that's very true to the comics that he's a sponsor of the Superhero team.
31:53 --> 31:56 [SPEAKER_03]: He wants to work with the meta humans in order to make the world better.
31:57 --> 31:57 [SPEAKER_03]: But he turns evil.
31:58 --> 32:05 [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm wondering if, you know, when they mentioned him in the suits movie, I was like, oh,
32:06 --> 32:07 [SPEAKER_03]: Max is doing this.
32:07 --> 32:10 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, okay, what's going on here, right?
32:10 --> 32:15 [SPEAKER_03]: And then see him sitting in the interview with green, with green lantern and hog girl.
32:15 --> 32:20 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, I can't fully trust what James Gunn is saying.
32:20 --> 32:23 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't really, I can't fully trust it.
32:24 --> 32:24 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
32:24 --> 32:25 [SPEAKER_03]: I can't fully trust it.
32:27 --> 32:35 [SPEAKER_05]: He was the character also the Patriot Pascal played in Wonder Woman, in nineteen eighty four which is to tell the different reimagined version, but you could see yeah, definitely a villain.
32:35 --> 32:40 [SPEAKER_05]: So yeah, we'll keep an eye on Maxwell Lord, whatever James Scott says.
32:41 --> 32:42 [SPEAKER_05]: And it's interesting.
32:43 --> 32:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I was just going to say he's definitely an asshole.
32:46 --> 32:48 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I get a quite villainous vibe out of him.
32:48 --> 32:51 [SPEAKER_01]: I think he might just be a little bit of a jerk.
32:52 --> 32:53 [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, okay.
32:54 --> 33:02 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you definitely, we actually see more of him in this episode of Peace Maker than we solve him in the movie Superman.
33:02 --> 33:05 [SPEAKER_05]: He just showed up like we just saw him get out of a car at the end.
33:07 --> 33:09 [SPEAKER_05]: But I thought it was interesting.
33:09 --> 33:17 [SPEAKER_05]: Just based on, you know, what John said, James comes said to us, I just based on what I know of his character in previous iterations.
33:17 --> 33:18 [SPEAKER_05]: It was interesting.
33:18 --> 33:24 [SPEAKER_05]: He said, put sociopathy there for peacemaker when, you know, we've had discussions on this.
33:24 --> 33:28 [SPEAKER_05]: I do not think peacemaker is a sociopath, please.
33:29 --> 33:31 [SPEAKER_05]: I think he's got things wrong with him, not that.
33:32 --> 33:35 [SPEAKER_05]: And I feel like Maxwell Lord typically is more so.
33:36 --> 33:38 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, I would agree with that.
33:39 --> 33:40 [SPEAKER_03]: I want to see where it goes.
33:41 --> 33:53 [SPEAKER_03]: This is one character that I'm keeping my eyes out, and the overall DC universe, because I want to see how he plays into what gun, what these universe comes to be.
33:55 --> 33:55 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
33:56 --> 33:56 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
33:56 --> 33:58 [SPEAKER_03]: I think he's going to play a logical person.
33:58 --> 33:59 [SPEAKER_03]: I just think he's going to play a logical.
34:00 --> 34:00 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
34:01 --> 34:03 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, it's, I mean, he's going to be pulling some strings for sure.
34:03 --> 34:04 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
34:04 --> 34:04 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
34:05 --> 34:07 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you mean he was going to play like a super villain role.
34:08 --> 34:09 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I do.
34:09 --> 34:09 [SPEAKER_03]: I do.
34:10 --> 34:23 [SPEAKER_05]: Maybe like we'll say it would be interesting because there are a lot of super intelligent characters being set up and also like these a lot of like tech froze being set up in the James gun DC universe.
34:23 --> 34:23 [SPEAKER_05]: So
34:26 --> 34:29 [SPEAKER_05]: wondering if he's going somewhere, a particular direction with that.
34:30 --> 34:41 [SPEAKER_05]: So Aaron, this was then your first exposure to Guy Gardner, the Green Lantern play by Nathan Fillian, and Hawk Girl aka Kendra Saunders play by Isabella Merced.
34:41 --> 34:44 [SPEAKER_05]: What did you think of those characters from this glimpse?
34:44 --> 34:48 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a duo I need to see infinitely more of the two of them together.
34:48 --> 34:49 [SPEAKER_01]: They're hilarious.
34:49 --> 34:51 [SPEAKER_01]: They're just their comments from behind that wall.
34:51 --> 34:54 [SPEAKER_01]: We're cracking me up the whole time for Chris.
34:54 --> 35:05 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that guy's been so much, but it didn't make it any less funny, especially when he starts going into his whole spiel about his family and Hawke girl immediately says, let's get some popcorn.
35:05 --> 35:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Come on, it's another sob story.
35:07 --> 35:11 [SPEAKER_03]: Terrible people.
35:11 --> 35:13 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, all three of them are terrible.
35:14 --> 35:15 [SPEAKER_05]: Talking about a full woman's camel to us.
35:15 --> 35:18 [SPEAKER_04]: Several people.
35:19 --> 35:25 [SPEAKER_05]: I just like the thing about Guy Gardner is like he clearly lacks empathy.
35:25 --> 35:32 [SPEAKER_05]: You know, he thinks it's funny that they said, you know, the people heard these horrible hurtful things about themselves.
35:33 --> 35:36 [SPEAKER_05]: But it does seem like he mostly does the right thing.
35:36 --> 35:38 [SPEAKER_05]: Would you say that, John, about Guy Gardner?
35:40 --> 35:41 [SPEAKER_03]: And he mostly does the right thing.
35:42 --> 35:49 [SPEAKER_03]: There'll be a dick about it, but... No, he's a hero in a way that Chris is not a hero.
35:49 --> 35:50 [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
35:50 --> 35:52 [SPEAKER_05]: Even though he's a jackass.
35:52 --> 35:53 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he's a jack.
35:53 --> 35:54 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, definitely.
35:55 --> 36:00 [SPEAKER_03]: But he's like, yeah, I wouldn't consider him to be an anti-hero or something like that.
36:01 --> 36:01 [SPEAKER_03]: He's not the Punisher.
36:02 --> 36:02 [SPEAKER_05]: Right.
36:03 --> 36:03 [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
36:03 --> 36:03 [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
36:03 --> 36:03 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
36:04 --> 36:06 [SPEAKER_03]: He's not, he's not a peacemaker.
36:06 --> 36:07 [SPEAKER_03]: He's a hero.
36:08 --> 36:09 [SPEAKER_03]: He's a jerk, but he's a hero.
36:10 --> 36:13 [SPEAKER_05]: We know we're getting a lantern core show next year.
36:13 --> 36:16 [SPEAKER_05]: Do you want to explain quickly what that is?
36:17 --> 36:19 [SPEAKER_03]: Is it a lantern core show?
36:20 --> 36:27 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, I mean, it's going to be, I know that Guy Gardner will be, and it also will be, also know there will be the two other.
36:27 --> 36:28 [SPEAKER_03]: Multiple grad lanterns, right?
36:29 --> 36:35 [SPEAKER_03]: So it's a, we don't know much about it, except that is, you know, is John Stewart and how?
36:37 --> 36:43 [SPEAKER_03]: the two main green lanterns as far as I'm concerned in DC universe comics.
36:45 --> 36:48 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, doing some crime solving.
36:49 --> 36:54 [SPEAKER_03]: And what looks like to be some rural community in the middle of the US.
36:55 --> 37:02 [SPEAKER_03]: So, I want my green lanterns to be green lanterns, you know what I mean?
37:03 --> 37:05 [SPEAKER_03]: And I hope I'm not getting true detectives here.
37:07 --> 37:21 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, it seems like we've so far, if we've only seen the DCU guy gardener, I'll say Erin, when you see Superman, you'll get to see gardener uses powers a lot, and I think that that was really cool how they did it.
37:23 --> 37:26 [SPEAKER_05]: So I think, yeah, I'm looking forward to it.
37:26 --> 37:28 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.
37:28 --> 37:32 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't have the protectiveness of the green lanterns the way you do.
37:32 --> 37:34 [SPEAKER_05]: So you'll be the one to say if they missed step.
37:34 --> 37:36 [SPEAKER_05]: So far, I'm like, so far, it's cool.
37:36 --> 37:37 [SPEAKER_03]: No, they haven't.
37:37 --> 37:39 [SPEAKER_03]: No, no, what we've seen so far is great.
37:39 --> 37:47 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm just wondering what the story will be in the lantern TV show with John and how.
37:47 --> 37:51 [SPEAKER_03]: And for people who don't know the green lanterns or like an intergalactic gum,
37:52 --> 38:07 [SPEAKER_03]: Interpol, police force, or going through different sectors of the universe to ensure that evil, doors and criminals are both to justice and to try to stop bad things from happening.
38:08 --> 38:11 [SPEAKER_03]: And how I gardener and how both
38:14 --> 38:22 [SPEAKER_03]: Everybody has a different sector of their universe, so it's like think of it as like police to have that are in different precincts, right?
38:23 --> 38:24 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah.
38:25 --> 38:29 [SPEAKER_01]: I grew up with the Ryan Reynolds Green Lantern, so I have very little expectations.
38:29 --> 38:31 [SPEAKER_01]: Don't get started.
38:36 --> 38:44 [SPEAKER_05]: That was me going into the new, um, then the new fantastic for us, like, well, but I've seen the, you know, I watched the other movies.
38:46 --> 38:47 [SPEAKER_05]: I think they can do better.
38:48 --> 38:55 [SPEAKER_05]: Um, I did you watch any of the animated series, like, Justice League, young Justice League, any of those.
38:56 --> 38:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, not so much.
38:58 --> 38:59 [SPEAKER_01]: I have been,
39:01 --> 39:04 [SPEAKER_01]: halfway through season one of the Harley Quinn animated series for a while.
39:04 --> 39:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, but keep going.
39:07 --> 39:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, I need to get back on that one.
39:10 --> 39:18 [SPEAKER_01]: But the Justice League cartoons were ones that I would watch whenever they were on TV when I was younger, but I never went all the way through one of them.
39:19 --> 39:26 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, definitely for a younger audience, but still with, I think, you know, mature storytelling.
39:28 --> 39:28 [SPEAKER_05]: For sure.
39:28 --> 39:34 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think those just until JLA cartoons were some of the best D.C.
39:34 --> 39:36 [SPEAKER_03]: storytelling.
39:36 --> 39:43 [SPEAKER_03]: Quite honestly, young justice, all that stuff was really, they told some really great stories and they did it really well.
39:45 --> 39:48 [SPEAKER_05]: And so fans of those might be more familiar with Hawke girl.
39:49 --> 40:07 [SPEAKER_05]: So we got, we discuss this, I guess when we were discussing Superman, but we got confirmation, James Gunn does, or she says, Isabella Merced, the actress who plays her says that it is Kendra Saunders, but it's a combination of two different versions of Hawke girl from the comics, so she is still the reincarnated.
40:08 --> 40:10 [SPEAKER_05]: Was it ancient Egyptian, what's Hawke girl story?
40:11 --> 40:28 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Hawk Durlin and Hawk Man, they have traditionally been portrayed as reincarnations of two Egyptians that each time they die, they come back.
40:29 --> 40:35 [SPEAKER_03]: And they've been living in different lives for thousands of years.
40:36 --> 40:44 [SPEAKER_03]: And so with their memories intact, so they know, right, and that's what they're, that's who they are.
40:45 --> 40:50 [SPEAKER_03]: So that reincarnated, I guess, partners, lovers, whatever you want to hold them.
40:53 --> 40:58 [SPEAKER_05]: And we did get in the DC EU, so we're talking to the Cavalverse, not the current sweatverse.
40:59 --> 41:00 [SPEAKER_05]: We did get
41:01 --> 41:05 [SPEAKER_05]: I a Hawkman that I really liked in Black Adam.
41:05 --> 41:11 [SPEAKER_05]: We got out his hodge and I thought the Justice Society was far in a way the best part of Black Adam.
41:12 --> 41:17 [SPEAKER_05]: But I think we're losing all of those actors and like, bring back how this hodge is Hawkman.
41:17 --> 41:19 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, Black Adam was God.
41:20 --> 41:20 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
41:22 --> 41:25 [SPEAKER_05]: I think that was that's my lowest ranked in the DCE if I remember correctly.
41:27 --> 41:27 [SPEAKER_05]: Hmm.
41:28 --> 41:29 [SPEAKER_05]: Wait, sorry, were you a fan?
41:29 --> 41:32 [SPEAKER_05]: No, you already said that the Snyder verse wasn't your bag.
41:33 --> 41:36 [SPEAKER_01]: No, I watched most of those movies, but I don't think I enjoyed any of them.
41:37 --> 41:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Even when the Snyder cut came out, I was just sitting there like, I don't get what the hype is about, I don't know.
41:41 --> 41:43 [SPEAKER_01]: It was just a longer.
41:43 --> 41:44 [SPEAKER_01]: It's been so simple.
41:44 --> 41:46 [SPEAKER_01]: What makes this one so special?
41:46 --> 41:47 [SPEAKER_03]: I got a bad for the Snyder cut.
41:48 --> 41:50 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm glad for that for our film.
41:50 --> 41:51 [SPEAKER_03]: Go Sam.
41:52 --> 41:53 [SPEAKER_03]: Call it Citizen Kane.
41:54 --> 41:54 [SPEAKER_03]: Let's go.
41:54 --> 41:56 [SPEAKER_03]: That's what I'm saying.
41:56 --> 41:58 [SPEAKER_05]: It's sweater sniffing ways.
42:01 --> 42:04 [SPEAKER_05]: More slow moos of Jason MamaWa.
42:07 --> 42:10 [SPEAKER_05]: Anyway, but they should bring back Hawkman.
42:12 --> 42:15 [SPEAKER_05]: My question, though, is where I will take two questions.
42:15 --> 42:24 [SPEAKER_05]: One is about Hawke girl, is that from the animated series, I have to admit I have not read her comics, although I'm curious to do so.
42:24 --> 42:27 [SPEAKER_05]: But I know she can be a dark and unpredictable character.
42:28 --> 42:31 [SPEAKER_05]: So I'm curious if James Gown is going to play on that at all.
42:32 --> 42:34 [SPEAKER_05]: My other question is, where's Metamorphoth?
42:34 --> 42:35 [SPEAKER_05]: They didn't even mention him.
42:35 --> 42:36 [SPEAKER_05]: They already have a new team member.
42:38 --> 42:38 [SPEAKER_03]: They do, that's true.
42:38 --> 42:40 [SPEAKER_03]: That's true.
42:40 --> 42:42 [SPEAKER_03]: But this takes place before.
42:42 --> 42:48 [SPEAKER_05]: The audition I think the audition was after everything.
42:48 --> 42:49 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
42:50 --> 42:50 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
42:51 --> 42:51 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
42:51 --> 42:52 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
42:52 --> 42:53 [SPEAKER_03]: That's a good thing.
42:53 --> 42:56 [SPEAKER_05]: Ben and Morpho was one of my favorite characters and Superman.
42:57 --> 42:59 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, not everybody needs to sit in the interview as well.
43:00 --> 43:01 [SPEAKER_05]: No, no, no, no.
43:01 --> 43:07 [SPEAKER_05]: He doesn't need to send the interviews, but I just would have liked, say, well, we already have one new team member acknowledgment.
43:07 --> 43:08 [SPEAKER_05]: Don't make me nervous.
43:11 --> 43:15 [SPEAKER_05]: Do you, Erin, do you hope to see more of the justice gang this season?
43:15 --> 43:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
43:16 --> 43:21 [SPEAKER_01]: If I don't see Guy Gardner at least three or four more times, I'm going to be disappointed for sure.
43:23 --> 43:25 [SPEAKER_05]: I love the bull cut for the record.
43:25 --> 43:26 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.
43:26 --> 43:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I thought that the bull cut was the biggest villain in this episode.
43:33 --> 43:34 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, it suits him.
43:35 --> 43:36 [SPEAKER_03]: It does, it does.
43:38 --> 43:40 [SPEAKER_05]: Aaron, do you want to set up some sucky job hunting?
43:41 --> 43:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
43:43 --> 43:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Amelia Harcourt and Leota Adabio are also having a rough time getting work after Adabio exposed Argus's shady operations publicly at the end of the last season.
43:52 --> 43:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Adabio has now separated from her wife and lives in what economists call the worst level of grand theft auto.
43:59 --> 44:07 [SPEAKER_01]: And Amelia doesn't know where to funnel her anger now that she's been rejected by every government agency and dies diagnosed with toxic masculinity.
44:09 --> 44:19 [SPEAKER_01]: When Chris shows up at Harcourt's house to check in on her, she refers to a mysterious night on a party boat between seasons that she calls a mistake while Chris clearly hopes for something more.
44:21 --> 44:30 [SPEAKER_05]: So, Jean, you are on record on our season one recap of being a Harcourt hater and also being a show.
44:31 --> 44:32 [SPEAKER_05]: What did you think watching this?
44:32 --> 44:37 [SPEAKER_05]: Were you thinking like, oh, I'm getting more insight to where you're like more of her being her?
44:38 --> 44:43 [SPEAKER_03]: No, this more of her being her and me being horrified at her being her.
44:45 --> 44:46 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, truly.
44:47 --> 44:52 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, yeah, she's, she's, she's tough to like then.
44:52 --> 44:55 [SPEAKER_03]: I, you know, I don't, and I'm on record.
44:55 --> 44:58 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't like peacemaker even, right?
44:58 --> 44:59 [SPEAKER_03]: So it's my life.
45:00 --> 45:21 [SPEAKER_03]: I like peace and I don't like not these are two people who are very difficult to like for me Which is why they show so good because I still want to watch this show even though I don't like these you know some of the main characters that have an intense dislike for but she is just
45:23 --> 45:38 [SPEAKER_03]: When she's in the car and she's punching the dashboard, I'm like, girl, like, if that's not a sign that you need serious help, you know, you need some serious walking through your trauma.
45:39 --> 45:42 [SPEAKER_03]: Whatever the trauma is, you need to get some help.
45:43 --> 45:46 [SPEAKER_03]: Is there no one in our life that, you know,
45:48 --> 46:04 [SPEAKER_03]: recognizes this at all, because I think everyone's trying to help Chris, but it seems like, you know, yeah, just she's alienated a lot of people this seems like.
46:06 --> 46:23 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I, first of all, it's interesting and also commentary, I think, on the way these things work in government jobs and things like that is she's being diagnosed with something, but not in a way of like, oh, let's help you through this, but in a way of this is why we're rejecting you, now go deal with it.
46:24 --> 46:44 [SPEAKER_05]: I did notice she brings up she's like what is that the DSM three there which is the diagnostic and statistical manual it is the sort of handbook for clinical psychology in terms of breaking down what different disorder behavior looks like
46:45 --> 46:48 [SPEAKER_05]: And, you know, the classifications thereof, et cetera, et cetera.
46:48 --> 46:52 [SPEAKER_05]: So, I immediately clocked it because, you know, I have a background setting psychology.
46:52 --> 47:05 [SPEAKER_05]: She said the DSM III that went out of use in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in
47:06 --> 47:09 [SPEAKER_05]: So it made me wonder, you know, I look at the date, nineteen eighty seven.
47:10 --> 47:14 [SPEAKER_05]: Was she diagnosed with something in childhood, was she put in therapy in childhood?
47:14 --> 47:15 [SPEAKER_05]: Did she have a bad experience?
47:16 --> 47:18 [SPEAKER_05]: Is there something she's pulling through from that?
47:18 --> 47:21 [SPEAKER_05]: Because that's such a specific thing for her to know and get wrong.
47:21 --> 47:22 [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
47:23 --> 47:23 [SPEAKER_05]: Hmm.
47:24 --> 47:28 [SPEAKER_05]: Erin, what do you think of her behavior of going to the bar and drinking alone?
47:29 --> 47:36 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that she was definitely hoping for a fight when she walked into that greasy bike or bar until we wanted.
47:37 --> 47:41 [SPEAKER_01]: She just wanted to beat someone up who deserved it and she got what she asked for for sure.
47:42 --> 47:49 [SPEAKER_01]: And you know, it was such a satisfying scene when she breaks the beer bottle over that guy's head.
47:49 --> 47:55 [SPEAKER_01]: And even though she ends up getting kicked out of the bar, just that little bit of
47:58 --> 48:01 [SPEAKER_01]: choreographed bar fight was just awesome.
48:02 --> 48:06 [SPEAKER_01]: But her and Chris are for sure a dysfunctional match made in heaven.
48:06 --> 48:16 [SPEAKER_01]: They're they're made for each other and it makes it all the more unfortunate that she's pushing away the only person who seems to really understand what she's going through.
48:17 --> 48:17 [SPEAKER_05]: Hmm.
48:17 --> 48:18 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
48:18 --> 48:18 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
48:18 --> 48:25 [SPEAKER_05]: It's because we see also Chris dealing, like she seems to, you know, we saw her going to the bar alone in the first season.
48:25 --> 48:30 [SPEAKER_05]: It's like guys just leave her alone, but then you notice she does hope someone starts some shit so that she can fight.
48:30 --> 48:31 [SPEAKER_05]: Right.
48:32 --> 48:39 [SPEAKER_05]: But in the same time, like Chris is not, his toxic behavior is not in wanting to fight everyone.
48:39 --> 48:41 [SPEAKER_05]: It's in escaping into drugs and sex.
48:42 --> 48:50 [SPEAKER_05]: So they are kind of two sides at the same coin in a way and just they're running away from their problems and ways that might be harmful.
48:50 --> 48:50 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
48:53 --> 48:57 [SPEAKER_01]: And what did you guys think about all of the overdue pills that she had?
48:57 --> 49:03 [SPEAKER_01]: I wonder if she's gonna have to go on the run or be with someone.
49:03 --> 49:06 [SPEAKER_03]: She needs a job.
49:07 --> 49:16 [SPEAKER_03]: She needs a job and and needing a job and when she says one of my supposed to do, right, when she's walking out, this is all I've known.
49:17 --> 49:21 [SPEAKER_03]: Right, it's, it's, that's some real shit.
49:22 --> 49:29 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, you've been doing something most of your life and have been pretty good at it.
49:30 --> 49:35 [SPEAKER_03]: And not at telling you that the one thing that you think you've been pretty good at, you can't no longer do.
49:35 --> 49:37 [SPEAKER_03]: And it's not because of something that you did.
49:38 --> 49:41 [SPEAKER_03]: That, that's pretty fucked up.
49:41 --> 49:42 [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?
49:43 --> 49:45 [SPEAKER_03]: But then to go into the bar and just,
49:46 --> 49:52 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, sit there waiting for someone to say the wrong thing and you know it's going to happen.
49:52 --> 49:53 [SPEAKER_03]: So she picked that bar on purpose.
49:55 --> 50:03 [SPEAKER_03]: She went in there with the intent to start some shit and hurt some people and maybe get hurt herself.
50:03 --> 50:04 [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?
50:04 --> 50:10 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, it's, yeah, it's, it's a cry for help man.
50:10 --> 50:14 [SPEAKER_03]: Like these are people who are crying out for help and it's just like,
50:16 --> 50:21 [SPEAKER_03]: who's gonna get it and at what cost to the people around them.
50:22 --> 50:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, her behavior makes me wonder if she genuinely has been blackboard by her blacklisted by Amanda Waller or if all of these agencies are looking at her and saying this is a person who really isn't fit to be in this agency.
50:41 --> 50:42 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, loose cannon.
50:46 --> 50:48 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think it's I think it's Waller.
50:50 --> 50:52 [SPEAKER_03]: Because those those agencies don't do fuck.
50:53 --> 50:56 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, Waller, Waller is the least can.
50:56 --> 50:58 [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly, sure.
50:58 --> 50:59 [SPEAKER_03]: They're okay.
50:59 --> 50:59 [SPEAKER_03]: They're okay.
50:59 --> 51:01 [SPEAKER_03]: They're like, sign me up for that.
51:01 --> 51:02 [SPEAKER_03]: I need to end more of those.
51:04 --> 51:06 [SPEAKER_03]: We need to end more of those on the team.
51:06 --> 51:07 [SPEAKER_03]: That's what they say.
51:08 --> 51:10 [SPEAKER_03]: So I really think it is Waller, yeah.
51:11 --> 51:11 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
51:11 --> 51:19 [SPEAKER_05]: To be fair though, we did see, um, hardcore and peacemaker absolutely murder, thirty seconds to Mars this episode.
51:19 --> 51:19 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, gosh.
51:20 --> 51:21 [SPEAKER_03]: That was so bizarre.
51:22 --> 51:23 [SPEAKER_05]: I think it's Jared Letho hate.
51:24 --> 51:25 [SPEAKER_03]: You think you really do?
51:25 --> 51:27 [SPEAKER_05]: Mm-hmm.
51:28 --> 51:33 [SPEAKER_05]: James Guns even made comments about, uh, two Jared Letho about, he's not like the man.
51:34 --> 51:34 [SPEAKER_03]: Really?
51:34 --> 51:35 [SPEAKER_05]: Mm-hmm.
51:36 --> 51:37 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that, that's real loud.
51:37 --> 51:38 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, okay.
51:41 --> 51:44 [SPEAKER_05]: He was basically, he was pulling a Kendrick and dropping a district.
51:45 --> 51:46 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I respect that.
51:46 --> 51:47 [SPEAKER_03]: I respect it a lot.
51:49 --> 51:49 [SPEAKER_03]: Wow.
51:49 --> 51:49 [SPEAKER_03]: Great.
51:51 --> 51:54 [SPEAKER_02]: Gun, I didn't know you, he was just editing.
51:54 --> 52:08 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
52:11 --> 52:13 [SPEAKER_05]: But John, what do you think about out of bio?
52:13 --> 52:16 [SPEAKER_05]: Do you think she is as okay?
52:16 --> 52:16 [SPEAKER_05]: She claims.
52:16 --> 52:16 [SPEAKER_03]: No.
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52:41 --> 52:44 [SPEAKER_03]: She did the right thing, and she's suffering for doing the right thing.
52:46 --> 52:46 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
52:46 --> 53:01 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, she outed the people who needed to be outed, let the world know what was going on, her mother at that, and it cost her, it cost them, and she doesn't look right.
53:01 --> 53:03 [SPEAKER_03]: She doesn't look okay to me.
53:04 --> 53:07 [SPEAKER_03]: She's trying to look okay by helping Chris, but she's not okay.
53:09 --> 53:13 [SPEAKER_05]: Aaron, do you think her security consulting companies going to do well?
53:15 --> 53:15 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think so.
53:15 --> 53:21 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that at some point this season, we're going to see economists out on his ass from our guests.
53:21 --> 53:24 [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to see everyone just struggling and running from the government together.
53:24 --> 53:27 [SPEAKER_03]: I either agree.
53:27 --> 53:28 [SPEAKER_03]: I think so.
53:28 --> 53:29 [SPEAKER_03]: I think so.
53:29 --> 53:30 [SPEAKER_03]: I think they're all.
53:30 --> 53:37 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they're they're not in good positions in life right now.
53:38 --> 53:40 [SPEAKER_03]: Everything is really tenuous, you know?
53:41 --> 53:42 [SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.
53:42 --> 53:45 [SPEAKER_05]: Do you think this could be a villain team-up origin story?
53:45 --> 53:45 [SPEAKER_05]: No.
53:46 --> 53:46 [SPEAKER_03]: No.
53:50 --> 53:50 [SPEAKER_03]: Hmm.
53:50 --> 53:51 [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
53:51 --> 53:51 [SPEAKER_05]: All right.
53:51 --> 53:54 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, out of bio, she is still, we see her.
53:54 --> 53:56 [SPEAKER_05]: She's still the emotional glue of the team.
53:56 --> 54:01 [SPEAKER_05]: It seems like most of them aren't in touch, but she's, it seems like she's keeping in touch with most people.
54:01 --> 54:04 [SPEAKER_05]: She, she keeping in touch with vigilante is the question.
54:05 --> 54:06 [SPEAKER_05]: That's someone who we don't know.
54:08 --> 54:08 [SPEAKER_03]: I would not.
54:08 --> 54:10 [SPEAKER_03]: You could not.
54:11 --> 54:12 [SPEAKER_03]: Let me be clear about that.
54:12 --> 54:13 [SPEAKER_03]: I hope she's not.
54:13 --> 54:13 [SPEAKER_03]: I would not.
54:15 --> 54:16 [SPEAKER_05]: I would let him tell me, Alfax.
54:18 --> 54:18 [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no.
54:18 --> 54:20 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, no thanks.
54:20 --> 54:22 [SPEAKER_01]: No, no.
54:22 --> 54:25 [SPEAKER_01]: I think economists secretly loves those phone calls.
54:25 --> 54:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think thanks.
54:28 --> 54:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
54:28 --> 54:29 [SPEAKER_05]: All right, so I'll set it up.
54:30 --> 54:37 [SPEAKER_05]: Economos has been posted outside Chris's house by Rick Flag senior who is looking for any reason to arrest peacemaker.
54:38 --> 54:40 [SPEAKER_05]: Board and uncomfortable with this task.
54:40 --> 54:48 [SPEAKER_05]: Economos accepts daily phone calls from Adrian Chase aka vigilante to listen to him pretend to know how facts and other distractions.
54:48 --> 54:54 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it seems like vigilante is kind of lonely.
54:54 --> 54:56 [SPEAKER_05]: Like, what do you think's up with him in peacemaker?
54:57 --> 55:00 [SPEAKER_05]: Peace maker, Chris is keeping him in a distance or something.
55:01 --> 55:02 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he is.
55:03 --> 55:03 [SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.
55:05 --> 55:08 [SPEAKER_03]: Because he doesn't know how to be friends with a guy.
55:08 --> 55:08 [SPEAKER_03]: No.
55:11 --> 55:12 [SPEAKER_03]: He doesn't know how to do that.
55:13 --> 55:17 [SPEAKER_05]: Do you think Dave is going to end up dead this season?
55:21 --> 55:23 [SPEAKER_05]: It's Richard Fennelfields.
55:23 --> 55:27 [SPEAKER_01]: I could see vigilante getting a little annoyed with Dave and and lashing out.
55:30 --> 55:33 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, no, no, he's not going to kill Dave.
55:35 --> 55:38 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, maybe Dave just end up dead by accident.
55:41 --> 55:42 [SPEAKER_05]: It might be collateral.
55:43 --> 55:46 [SPEAKER_05]: He wasn't in the opening dance.
55:46 --> 55:48 [SPEAKER_05]: He might be collateral.
55:48 --> 55:52 [SPEAKER_03]: But I don't think vigilante was going to just kill him.
55:52 --> 55:52 [SPEAKER_03]: All right.
55:53 --> 55:53 [SPEAKER_03]: No.
55:54 --> 55:58 [SPEAKER_05]: I hope the alfax thing becomes a through line throughout the season though.
55:58 --> 56:02 [SPEAKER_05]: I hope the vigilante and us learn many alfax like their tubular eyes.
56:02 --> 56:04 [SPEAKER_05]: I did not know that I also had tubular eyes.
56:05 --> 56:07 [SPEAKER_01]: I had no idea tubular eyes were even a thing.
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56:24 --> 56:26 [SPEAKER_05]: And we met two new people to Argus.
56:26 --> 56:28 [SPEAKER_05]: Or wait, did we meet Tim Meadows?
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56:30 --> 56:31 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
56:31 --> 56:37 [SPEAKER_05]: Tim Meadows is going to play an Argus agent play called Langston Flurry, but we did meet this episode.
56:37 --> 56:40 [SPEAKER_05]: So I'll read Regus as Sasha Bordeaux.
56:40 --> 56:42 [SPEAKER_05]: And I realized I was like, what do I know here from?
56:42 --> 56:43 [SPEAKER_05]: And I looked it up.
56:43 --> 56:48 [SPEAKER_05]: And it was this cheesy Christmas movie I watched with my mom called holiday in the vineyards.
56:49 --> 56:49 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh gosh.
56:54 --> 56:54 [SPEAKER_03]: How was it?
56:55 --> 56:56 [SPEAKER_03]: You can't leave us hanging just there.
56:56 --> 57:02 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, it was amazing Christmas movie about falling in love in one country.
57:02 --> 57:03 [SPEAKER_05]: Obviously it was brilliant.
57:04 --> 57:06 [SPEAKER_05]: It was so bad, but it was brilliant.
57:06 --> 57:08 [SPEAKER_05]: It was not good, but it was good.
57:12 --> 57:19 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I guess there's not much to say yet about those characters we're just getting them soft introduced.
57:19 --> 57:27 [SPEAKER_05]: So Saul Rodriguez his character Sasha Bordeaux, but I know Sasha Bordeaux does come from the comics, but I don't know anything about her.
57:28 --> 57:29 [SPEAKER_03]: She's part of Checkmate.
57:29 --> 57:30 [SPEAKER_03]: She's part of August.
57:31 --> 57:32 [SPEAKER_03]: She's like a cyborg.
57:34 --> 57:36 [SPEAKER_03]: She's like deadly.
57:36 --> 57:40 [SPEAKER_03]: She's a really, really good hand to hand combat and
57:40 --> 57:43 [SPEAKER_05]: So yeah, I wonder if she'll become a cyborg this season.
57:43 --> 57:45 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we might be seeing her origin story, maybe.
57:46 --> 57:48 [SPEAKER_03]: No, it'll be pretty cool.
57:49 --> 58:04 [SPEAKER_05]: And we also got another cameo from Superman, Michael E. and Blackress back as they talking head on a conservative talk show called this fear news, talking about how meta humans breaking out of Arkham and Bell reverb.
58:05 --> 58:10 [SPEAKER_05]: dangerous, you know, just fear mongering stuff and Rick Flag Senior is for sure listening.
58:12 --> 58:16 [SPEAKER_05]: So I guess this Aaron is also your first encounter with Rick Flag Senior.
58:16 --> 58:20 [SPEAKER_05]: He was in Creature Commanders in Superman and now he's back.
58:20 --> 58:22 [SPEAKER_05]: What is your impression of him so far?
58:23 --> 58:29 [SPEAKER_01]: He seems like a really petty guy out for revenge trying to catch peacemakers slip up.
58:32 --> 58:36 [SPEAKER_01]: When I saw him, I had to look up the actor and get a little bit more info about him.
58:37 --> 58:39 [SPEAKER_01]: I was shocked to learn that this guy is sixty years old.
58:39 --> 58:40 [SPEAKER_01]: He does not look sixty.
58:42 --> 58:53 [SPEAKER_05]: So in creature commanders, he had white hair, but while they were recording this and are filming this and Superman, he was also at the same time filming, what is it the Tulsa King?
58:54 --> 58:56 [SPEAKER_05]: So he had to have dark hair.
58:57 --> 58:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
58:58 --> 59:00 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he seems like an interesting character.
59:00 --> 59:03 [SPEAKER_01]: I think he might be the ultimate villain of this season.
59:03 --> 59:05 [SPEAKER_01]: And he might be the big bad.
59:06 --> 59:06 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
59:08 --> 59:13 [SPEAKER_05]: We hear him tell Sasha that he's moving the case to Argus priority one and Sasha's like, wait, what?
59:13 --> 59:15 [SPEAKER_05]: This seems like a personal vendetta.
59:15 --> 59:20 [SPEAKER_05]: Um, and he's sending someone to secretly supervise economists or secretly or not.
59:20 --> 59:22 [SPEAKER_05]: Do you think, Jonathan?
59:22 --> 59:23 [SPEAKER_03]: No, not secretly.
59:24 --> 59:26 [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, just sending him for a new bar.
59:26 --> 59:29 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, just sending another pair of eyes on him.
59:29 --> 59:31 [SPEAKER_03]: Have a pair of eyes on it.
59:31 --> 59:33 [SPEAKER_03]: Make sure that he's doing what he's supposed to be done.
59:34 --> 59:34 [SPEAKER_05]: All right.
59:35 --> 59:37 [SPEAKER_03]: Because you won't be reflected into secrets.
59:37 --> 59:38 [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
59:38 --> 59:42 [SPEAKER_05]: But you were right that he does know the piecemaker killed his son.
59:42 --> 59:44 [SPEAKER_05]: So we discussed that in the recap.
59:44 --> 59:58 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and he's just wasting as Sasha said a bunch of resources or no, I guess, uh, economist said he's wasting a bunch of resources surveilling him just to see if he can pick him up for something.
59:58 --> 59:58 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
59:58 --> 59:59 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:00:00 --> 01:00:01 [SPEAKER_03]: Sounds familiar.
01:00:03 --> 01:00:11 [SPEAKER_05]: So Erin, when I was telling John that I don't think peacemaker is really like the boys, I also had to say admit that you're okay.
01:00:11 --> 01:00:14 [SPEAKER_05]: There is an orgy scene, but it's different.
01:00:14 --> 01:00:18 [SPEAKER_01]: So how do you think it's different?
01:00:18 --> 01:00:20 [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's different in that.
01:00:23 --> 01:00:29 [SPEAKER_01]: In the boys, there was a very clear like what's happening here is really messed up and over the top.
01:00:31 --> 01:00:36 [SPEAKER_01]: And in peacemaker, it seems a lot more normal if you can call an origin normal.
01:00:36 --> 01:00:37 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
01:00:37 --> 01:00:42 [SPEAKER_01]: It just the way that the boys did it felt really horrible.
01:00:44 --> 01:00:45 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I have people dying.
01:00:46 --> 01:00:49 [SPEAKER_03]: The worst is the worst.
01:00:49 --> 01:00:59 [SPEAKER_01]: It is like, if you don't follow the boy's Instagram account or Twitter account, you got to follow the, the vote.
01:01:00 --> 01:01:05 [SPEAKER_01]: international accounts because they're making a lot of hero gasm file jokes right now.
01:01:05 --> 01:01:06 [SPEAKER_05]: Really about peace maker?
01:01:07 --> 01:01:10 [SPEAKER_01]: No, just about there in general.
01:01:10 --> 01:01:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
01:01:11 --> 01:01:11 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
01:01:12 --> 01:01:13 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
01:01:13 --> 01:01:15 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, this was just I called it.
01:01:16 --> 01:01:18 [SPEAKER_05]: I called it the episode of Second Breakfast.
01:01:18 --> 01:01:20 [SPEAKER_05]: We were just recording a normal origin.
01:01:20 --> 01:01:21 [SPEAKER_05]: I think what's a normal origin.
01:01:22 --> 01:01:23 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm like, I don't know, just make a people party.
01:01:25 --> 01:01:26 [SPEAKER_03]: People party and doing drugs.
01:01:27 --> 01:01:30 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, they're not like nobody's dying.
01:01:31 --> 01:01:33 [SPEAKER_05]: They don't seem to have superpowers who just make people fighting.
01:01:33 --> 01:01:34 [SPEAKER_05]: Right.
01:01:34 --> 01:01:37 [SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't know what the casting call for that looks like.
01:01:37 --> 01:01:40 [SPEAKER_05]: It must be comfortable with nudity.
01:01:41 --> 01:01:47 [SPEAKER_05]: James Gunn has been in several interviews recently saying that like the it sounds like the intimacy coordinators one of his favorite people on set.
01:01:48 --> 01:01:53 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, that makes sense because there's a lot of people who are needed.
01:01:54 --> 01:01:55 [SPEAKER_05]: He's a good story.
01:01:55 --> 01:02:00 [SPEAKER_05]: I just tell them what I'm going for and then they figure it all out with their comfortable width and how and yeah.
01:02:02 --> 01:02:07 [SPEAKER_05]: Hmm, although noticeably Chris is not really participating in it.
01:02:07 --> 01:02:13 [SPEAKER_05]: He's just kind of sitting there on the couch and one point people start kissing him and he's like, oh, yeah, that's nice.
01:02:13 --> 01:02:21 [SPEAKER_05]: But then, you know, and then he goes, it seems like a really irresponsible time to open up the quantum unfolding chamber.
01:02:21 --> 01:02:22 [SPEAKER_05]: You think?
01:02:22 --> 01:02:23 [SPEAKER_05]: a little bit.
01:02:23 --> 01:02:30 [SPEAKER_03]: You think you don't want to open it when you're, you know, done a couple of lines of things, not just a one thing of things.
01:02:30 --> 01:02:32 [SPEAKER_05]: And you're about how it's how it's strangers.
01:02:33 --> 01:02:35 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you're not thinking straight after you've done those lines.
01:02:35 --> 01:02:37 [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying?
01:02:37 --> 01:02:38 [SPEAKER_03]: It's like it's not just coke either.
01:02:39 --> 01:02:39 [SPEAKER_03]: You're doing things.
01:02:41 --> 01:02:45 [SPEAKER_01]: How did he find that door to the alternate dimension when he was so messed up?
01:02:45 --> 01:02:47 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
01:02:47 --> 01:02:52 [SPEAKER_01]: He couldn't even find his own bedroom door in that state level.
01:02:53 --> 01:03:01 [SPEAKER_05]: I wonder, I mean, because they jumped six months from that first time when he discovers it because he's following Eglay to, you know, this period.
01:03:02 --> 01:03:03 [SPEAKER_05]: So I wonder if he has
01:03:04 --> 01:03:32 [SPEAKER_05]: retrace the steps many times in between but not had the although I was gonna say but not had the guts to go through but although it sounded like Sasha was saying to Rick Flag that this was the only the second time they detected it being open yeah yeah so I don't I don't think he's actually done it again like this is the first time since that initial shock of seeing his father hmm
01:03:34 --> 01:03:37 [SPEAKER_01]: And to be believed that Adabayo doesn't know about the door?
01:03:38 --> 01:03:38 [SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
01:03:40 --> 01:03:40 [SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
01:03:40 --> 01:03:42 [SPEAKER_05]: I think she would say if she did.
01:03:42 --> 01:03:44 [SPEAKER_05]: And I don't see why Chris would tell her.
01:03:44 --> 01:03:45 [SPEAKER_03]: You right.
01:03:46 --> 01:03:47 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think he's told anyone.
01:03:47 --> 01:03:50 [SPEAKER_03]: He didn't tell anyone about the door at last season.
01:03:51 --> 01:03:52 [SPEAKER_05]: No, I don't think so.
01:03:52 --> 01:03:53 [SPEAKER_05]: No, no, no.
01:03:54 --> 01:04:08 [SPEAKER_05]: Um, so gun does say that this is somehow related to Lex Luger Luther's pocket universe, but we're not really sure like some something similar and how it's created as a space between dimensions.
01:04:08 --> 01:04:11 [SPEAKER_05]: Um, but obviously they're not physically connected.
01:04:11 --> 01:04:15 [SPEAKER_05]: Although James gun says that this one has one hundred doors inside.
01:04:15 --> 01:04:19 [SPEAKER_05]: So one of them must be the DC EU.
01:04:20 --> 01:04:22 [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, here's a question.
01:04:22 --> 01:04:28 [SPEAKER_05]: He will talk about the multiverse, so she can shenanigans more in a moment, but he sees the alien in the other thing.
01:04:28 --> 01:04:41 [SPEAKER_05]: Like are these all different versions of, you know, something that all version of Algi built, so on some alien planet, there's an alien, Algi, who built this door and is disposing of rats?
01:04:42 --> 01:04:43 [SPEAKER_03]: No, I don't think so.
01:04:44 --> 01:04:44 [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
01:04:45 --> 01:04:53 [SPEAKER_05]: They just have to connect in the same, because like Lex had his pocket universe, it felt like, you know, his place.
01:04:53 --> 01:04:56 [SPEAKER_05]: And this one has all these matching doors that connect.
01:04:56 --> 01:04:59 [SPEAKER_05]: So I'm curious if we're gonna learn how this is built.
01:05:00 --> 01:05:02 [SPEAKER_03]: That I think they have to let us know.
01:05:03 --> 01:05:08 [SPEAKER_03]: At some point, how this all came to be, you know?
01:05:08 --> 01:05:11 [SPEAKER_03]: I want to know, but I don't want to know.
01:05:13 --> 01:05:29 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, so what you didn't see, what you saw on the recap of Aaron from Superman is that this Lexus version ended up ripping, opening a ripped and that would like open to ripped through metropolis basically.
01:05:29 --> 01:05:40 [SPEAKER_05]: And this is why Rick Flag, he has some reason for concern about the door, but it feels like he's going to take it too far for the wrong reasons.
01:05:42 --> 01:05:51 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't get any vibe that the situation in peacemakers basement is unstable or at risk of causing a problem.
01:05:51 --> 01:05:56 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that McClack is for sure targeting peacemaker for personal reasons.
01:05:57 --> 01:06:00 [SPEAKER_03]: Like we talked about it in the soups episode.
01:06:01 --> 01:06:05 [SPEAKER_03]: His in the peacemaker episode from season that we did the recap.
01:06:06 --> 01:06:10 [SPEAKER_03]: His that technology seems so much more advanced and more stable than what Lex Kuthal had.
01:06:12 --> 01:06:14 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, which is shameful, the Lexi Luther.
01:06:14 --> 01:06:16 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
01:06:17 --> 01:06:23 [SPEAKER_03]: So we don't know if it's, you know, then it comes from Earth, then it comes from somewhere else.
01:06:25 --> 01:06:25 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
01:06:26 --> 01:06:27 [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
01:06:27 --> 01:06:28 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, let's pause there.
01:06:29 --> 01:06:29 [SPEAKER_05]: Take a quick break.
01:06:29 --> 01:06:34 [SPEAKER_05]: And when we get back, we're going to get into all the multiversal shenanigans of this episode.
01:06:34 --> 01:06:35 [SPEAKER_05]: See you in my way.
01:06:47 --> 01:06:57 [SPEAKER_03]: One day, when it's snowing outside, Chris, who now lives in his deceased father's house, decides to take eagerly in the queue you see to stretch his wings.
01:06:57 --> 01:07:07 [SPEAKER_03]: Instead of going out into the cold, there we see that this space is connected to doors into many other realities, both similar and wildly different from his own.
01:07:07 --> 01:07:14 [SPEAKER_03]: He follows eagerly to adore just like his, through which he finds a version of himself living what seems to be a much better life.
01:07:15 --> 01:07:20 [SPEAKER_03]: His brother and father are still alive, his father loves him, and they are crime-fighting trio called the trio.
01:07:21 --> 01:07:28 [SPEAKER_03]: This counterpart in his counterpart in Hawkeh, in Hawkeh were apparently in love a couple.
01:07:28 --> 01:07:39 [SPEAKER_03]: As he wonders at this different life he could have led the Chris from this universe comes home to find him in a taxom following our Chris as he tries to retreat back to the QUC.
01:07:40 --> 01:07:43 [SPEAKER_03]: There fighting for his life, our Chris kills the other Chris.
01:07:45 --> 01:07:47 [SPEAKER_05]: So far we've only we know there's imps?
01:07:47 --> 01:07:49 [SPEAKER_05]: behind some of these other doors.
01:07:49 --> 01:08:00 [SPEAKER_05]: We know there's a alien neighbor who wants a high who funny, funny enough is credited as the chiphotic alien, which chiphosis is just basically like sitting with a hunched back.
01:08:00 --> 01:08:03 [SPEAKER_05]: Like, I need to stop doing as I'm at my computer.
01:08:05 --> 01:08:06 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm curious about that.
01:08:08 --> 01:08:13 [SPEAKER_05]: But Aaron, were you surprised to see adult Keith alive and well played by David Denman?
01:08:14 --> 01:08:26 [SPEAKER_01]: I was surprised I especially when we get the little scene at the beginning of the episode where piecemaker is in the alternate universe house and he's looking at all of the different photos.
01:08:26 --> 01:08:35 [SPEAKER_01]: I was wondering who's that third person that's clearly piecemaker his father and someone else and I just had no idea who that could be but I
01:08:37 --> 01:08:51 [SPEAKER_01]: then Keith shows up and it's just such a freaky experience for him where all of these years of grief come up and he has to face off against his brother who he killed and it's an emotional moment and it felt really powerful.
01:08:52 --> 01:08:57 [SPEAKER_05]: What do you think the difference is like it did his father not run a fight ring in this reality?
01:08:57 --> 01:08:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.
01:09:00 --> 01:09:01 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that we're going to find out that
01:09:02 --> 01:09:05 [SPEAKER_01]: this version of reality is pretty bad, as well.
01:09:05 --> 01:09:11 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that August is a lot closer to how he is in the main universe in this universe.
01:09:12 --> 01:09:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe he hates his kids a little bit less, but I'm gonna say that he's still the racist, horrible person that he is in our universe.
01:09:21 --> 01:09:28 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I guess, so August Smith, Robert Patrick, he was a white dragon in season one.
01:09:28 --> 01:09:30 [SPEAKER_05]: I guess he's the blue dragon here, but
01:09:32 --> 01:09:34 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's still, I don't know.
01:09:36 --> 01:09:38 [SPEAKER_05]: Still walking and talking like a duck to me.
01:09:40 --> 01:09:40 [SPEAKER_05]: What do you think?
01:09:42 --> 01:09:44 [SPEAKER_05]: The top trio though, that's not a thing for the comics, right?
01:09:45 --> 01:09:47 [SPEAKER_03]: Not that I'm aware of, but I'll double check.
01:09:48 --> 01:09:51 [SPEAKER_03]: But I want this word.
01:09:52 --> 01:09:56 [SPEAKER_03]: When he walked through in the first time, his father was happy to see him.
01:09:57 --> 01:10:14 [SPEAKER_03]: And then when his brother shows up and they're all sitting down and laughing and talking, I so wanted this world to be like that, to be good.
01:10:16 --> 01:10:18 [SPEAKER_03]: But then the real me shows up.
01:10:19 --> 01:10:22 [SPEAKER_03]: and immediately says, shut that shit down.
01:10:23 --> 01:10:24 [SPEAKER_03]: It can't be good.
01:10:24 --> 01:10:27 [SPEAKER_03]: Not me good.
01:10:27 --> 01:10:29 [SPEAKER_03]: Like these people are horrible.
01:10:29 --> 01:10:31 [SPEAKER_03]: And we're just gonna wait to see what the horrible is.
01:10:31 --> 01:10:37 [SPEAKER_03]: There's, the grass is not always greener.
01:10:38 --> 01:10:44 [SPEAKER_03]: And that is gonna, I am so sad for Chris that that's gonna play out.
01:10:45 --> 01:10:47 [SPEAKER_03]: That he's gonna learn that it's not always greener.
01:10:47 --> 01:10:53 [SPEAKER_03]: That in fact, that it could be quite horrible, quite deadly, under the side of the fence.
01:10:54 --> 01:10:55 [SPEAKER_03]: And I think that's what he's going to learn.
01:10:56 --> 01:10:58 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't trust the brother.
01:10:58 --> 01:10:59 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't trust the father.
01:10:59 --> 01:11:03 [SPEAKER_03]: This may be a world where all the races dreams came true.
01:11:03 --> 01:11:11 [SPEAKER_03]: We live in some sort of Nazi propaganda state assumption.
01:11:12 --> 01:11:16 [SPEAKER_03]: But I just don't buy that this world is as
01:11:18 --> 01:11:23 [SPEAKER_03]: nice and welcoming as it appears right now.
01:11:24 --> 01:11:38 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so I have to say, Paulson, twenty point out in the discord that rainbow creature, we see in the background, you know, top trio defeats ultrahumanite, which is like a super intelligent ape villain before Lex Luther.
01:11:40 --> 01:11:42 [SPEAKER_05]: And Rainbow Creature is an interesting one.
01:11:42 --> 01:11:44 [SPEAKER_05]: Nars points out.
01:11:44 --> 01:11:52 [SPEAKER_05]: Anyone by the way, who doesn't know Nars is a lawyer master who requested that we always pronounce his name with a question.
01:11:54 --> 01:11:59 [SPEAKER_05]: But Nars pointed out that this is, yeah, it's kind of a suss monster to go with, that
01:12:00 --> 01:12:04 [SPEAKER_05]: Maybe the rainbow creature that drains color might have deeper meaning.
01:12:04 --> 01:12:08 [SPEAKER_05]: And of course reading up on this out of curiosity.
01:12:08 --> 01:12:19 [SPEAKER_05]: And so this comes this super old Batman villain from, you know, another cheap cut from James gun from Batman volume one number one thirty four from September nineteen sixty.
01:12:19 --> 01:12:21 [SPEAKER_05]: So it would go way back.
01:12:22 --> 01:12:27 [SPEAKER_05]: This is, yeah, my summary I wrote up of the genuine actual in-universe lore.
01:12:27 --> 01:12:35 [SPEAKER_05]: So Rainbow Creature was born in Mobile, Kano in South America Republic as a wannabe dictator was trying to take over the country.
01:12:36 --> 01:12:42 [SPEAKER_05]: Batman exposes the would be dictator's lies and chases him out of town using the power of a rainbow.
01:12:42 --> 01:12:50 [SPEAKER_05]: And then teams up the locals to defeat the creature by tricking him, tricking it into using up its powers until it blows away in the wind.
01:12:51 --> 01:12:53 [SPEAKER_05]: don't tell me what DC's not political.
01:12:56 --> 01:13:02 [SPEAKER_01]: The rainbow bat suit has been the targets and controversy lately if you've been paying attention to the Lego Batman game.
01:13:06 --> 01:13:26 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, and I think that also it's not, you know, this, this fighting against the rainbow concept, it's not, it's not an accident that they reminded us in the opening audition scene that Chris Smith is by, you know, he's, he feels no personal shame for that.
01:13:27 --> 01:13:30 [SPEAKER_05]: He's like, you know, it's, you know, so I can fix a compliment as he says.
01:13:31 --> 01:13:31 [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
01:13:31 --> 01:13:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
01:13:32 --> 01:13:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Love that.
01:13:32 --> 01:13:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:13:33 --> 01:13:45 [SPEAKER_05]: but maybe in this universe, oh, I'm wondering now, if that's gonna be, if he, if I'm assuming at this point, he's gonna like go and pretend to be himself some more and, you know, just because he got a taste.
01:13:46 --> 01:13:56 [SPEAKER_05]: Maybe that's how he outs himself by being open about that and they're like, what the, yeah, I'm interested in how, sorry, good.
01:13:56 --> 01:13:57 [SPEAKER_03]: No, look at her.
01:13:58 --> 01:14:06 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm interested in how alternate Amanda Harcourt is going to play into all of this because she was a prominent part of the dance in the opening scene.
01:14:06 --> 01:14:07 [SPEAKER_01]: That's true.
01:14:08 --> 01:14:08 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
01:14:08 --> 01:14:16 [SPEAKER_05]: She was given me, I don't know if you guys've had any sinister vibes from that, but like maybe it was because I know they have to do serious faces for that dance.
01:14:16 --> 01:14:18 [SPEAKER_05]: That's what they're instructed to do because it's funny or that way.
01:14:19 --> 01:14:24 [SPEAKER_05]: But also like the conservative like kind of frumpy quote unquote like Tradwife clothes.
01:14:25 --> 01:14:26 [SPEAKER_05]: Totally.
01:14:28 --> 01:14:28 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.
01:14:28 --> 01:14:28 [SPEAKER_05]: What do you think?
01:14:29 --> 01:14:30 [SPEAKER_03]: It's also us.
01:14:30 --> 01:14:30 [SPEAKER_03]: It's also us.
01:14:31 --> 01:14:35 [SPEAKER_05]: And we find out that she is now with quote unquote, that jar head.
01:14:35 --> 01:14:36 [SPEAKER_05]: So means someone in the marines.
01:14:37 --> 01:14:38 [SPEAKER_05]: What if it's Rick Flag?
01:14:38 --> 01:14:38 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
01:14:39 --> 01:14:39 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
01:14:39 --> 01:14:39 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
01:14:40 --> 01:14:40 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
01:14:40 --> 01:14:41 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
01:14:41 --> 01:14:42 [SPEAKER_05]: Who keeps making her killed?
01:14:43 --> 01:14:45 [SPEAKER_01]: That would be awesome.
01:14:46 --> 01:14:46 [SPEAKER_05]: I could see that.
01:14:48 --> 01:14:51 [SPEAKER_05]: Maybe that I don't know if they would keep that secret till the end.
01:14:52 --> 01:14:53 [SPEAKER_05]: Anyway, anyway.
01:14:55 --> 01:14:57 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, super.
01:14:57 --> 01:15:02 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm interested to see like, okay, this is how this season is starting out.
01:15:02 --> 01:15:04 [SPEAKER_05]: How is it going to escalate from here?
01:15:09 --> 01:15:12 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's gonna, it's gonna be a wild ride.
01:15:12 --> 01:15:13 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:15:13 --> 01:15:22 [SPEAKER_03]: It's gonna be one hell of a ride because they really, they're, this show gives absolutely zero fucks.
01:15:23 --> 01:15:28 [SPEAKER_03]: And they're gonna tell this story and this story is not for the faint of heart.
01:15:29 --> 01:15:31 [SPEAKER_03]: So buckle in.
01:15:33 --> 01:15:35 [SPEAKER_05]: Were you excited to hear the reference to?
01:15:35 --> 01:15:42 [SPEAKER_05]: They said that Chris Smith and that other universe went to Bluedhaven, which is Gotham's sister city.
01:15:43 --> 01:15:43 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:15:44 --> 01:15:49 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, you know, Nightwing, Dick Grayson calls home in the comics now.
01:15:49 --> 01:15:51 [SPEAKER_03]: So for a long time.
01:15:51 --> 01:15:52 [SPEAKER_03]: And that's exciting.
01:15:53 --> 01:15:54 [SPEAKER_03]: That's exciting.
01:15:54 --> 01:16:03 [SPEAKER_05]: I think if it entices you at all area and I think it's I seem to remember I think yeah, yeah, yeah, it's definitely from Harley Quinn that she goes at one point there.
01:16:04 --> 01:16:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Nice.
01:16:05 --> 01:16:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, all of the robins, especially nightwing are some of my favorite characters and I see comics so.
01:16:13 --> 01:16:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, definitely.
01:16:14 --> 01:16:19 [SPEAKER_01]: I hope we get some kind of reference if not a little bit of a cameo from that would be awesome.
01:16:19 --> 01:16:28 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, they're setting it up is I mean, I suppose perhaps Nightwing exists in this universe, but I'm not holding my breath for a cameo.
01:16:28 --> 01:16:33 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it would be funny if they invite it if they if James gunner do tonight wing before Batman.
01:16:33 --> 01:16:38 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, no, I got the vibe that there are no other heroes in this universe.
01:16:39 --> 01:16:40 [SPEAKER_05]: in the other alternate universe.
01:16:40 --> 01:16:43 [SPEAKER_03]: In the alternate universe, like the trio's the thing.
01:16:43 --> 01:16:45 [SPEAKER_05]: Mm-hmm.
01:16:45 --> 01:16:46 [SPEAKER_03]: That's me.
01:16:46 --> 01:16:48 [SPEAKER_03]: I've got a vibe like that.
01:16:48 --> 01:16:50 [SPEAKER_03]: Like they've run this town.
01:16:51 --> 01:16:52 [SPEAKER_03]: Like this entire universe.
01:16:53 --> 01:16:55 [SPEAKER_05]: They certainly have a lot of money.
01:16:56 --> 01:16:59 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, a lot of accolades.
01:17:00 --> 01:17:03 [SPEAKER_05]: Maybe instead of Lord Tech, maybe it's Augie Tech.
01:17:04 --> 01:17:05 [SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.
01:17:06 --> 01:17:10 [SPEAKER_03]: a lot of money, a lot of accolades, a lot of, you know, like trophies, almost.
01:17:11 --> 01:17:11 [SPEAKER_04]: Mm-hmm.
01:17:12 --> 01:17:12 [SPEAKER_04]: Mm-hmm.
01:17:13 --> 01:17:16 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and they all, um, Augie shared jet packs with his son.
01:17:17 --> 01:17:17 [SPEAKER_05]: They all get to fly.
01:17:18 --> 01:17:20 [SPEAKER_05]: Doesn't, piecemaker have a jet pack in the comics?
01:17:20 --> 01:17:20 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
01:17:21 --> 01:17:30 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so I'm assuming this one will just steal that, and hopefully we get some fun training montage scenes with, in vigilante, she'll be involved.
01:17:32 --> 01:17:34 [SPEAKER_03]: Do not use vigilante jet packs, please.
01:17:34 --> 01:17:38 [SPEAKER_03]: That's going to be a disaster.
01:17:38 --> 01:17:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Our peacemaker might already have a jet pack if he hadn't put a spike through alternate peacemaker.
01:17:44 --> 01:17:44 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, that's true.
01:17:44 --> 01:17:47 [SPEAKER_05]: I guess that got the jet pack too, right?
01:17:47 --> 01:17:47 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
01:17:47 --> 01:17:48 [SPEAKER_05]: That's right.
01:17:48 --> 01:17:49 [SPEAKER_03]: That's right.
01:17:50 --> 01:17:52 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, what do you think that spike was?
01:17:52 --> 01:17:54 [SPEAKER_05]: Is this random spike and spiky spike in the ceiling?
01:17:54 --> 01:17:56 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.
01:17:57 --> 01:17:58 [SPEAKER_03]: That's why we need answers.
01:17:58 --> 01:18:00 [SPEAKER_03]: Random, gobble the group technology.
01:18:01 --> 01:18:01 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:18:02 --> 01:18:03 [SPEAKER_03]: We need answers.
01:18:04 --> 01:18:05 [SPEAKER_05]: It's the double kill in spike.
01:18:09 --> 01:18:36 [SPEAKER_05]: it was funny though to see the other bedroom and how it's just like everything's a little bit off like it reminded me okay so there's a hanoi rocks but instead it's banned that we know piece make it that likes and but instead of rocks spelled ROCKS it's ROXX scorpions with the Z reminds me of like reminds me of thunderbolts like we're the Avengers with the Z like there's just something off on this one it's
01:18:36 --> 01:18:41 [SPEAKER_05]: Poor some honey, poor some honey on me, which is not something that's okay.
01:18:42 --> 01:18:46 [SPEAKER_05]: So yeah, it just feels like we're being warned.
01:18:47 --> 01:18:47 [SPEAKER_05]: We're being warned.
01:18:49 --> 01:18:58 [SPEAKER_05]: Wait, was you guys think of the new O-Lord song for the opening number by Foxy's Foxy Shazam, James Gunn's favorite band?
01:19:00 --> 01:19:01 [SPEAKER_01]: I was talking my head.
01:19:02 --> 01:19:07 [SPEAKER_03]: I thought the whole opening dance number was very Broadway.
01:19:07 --> 01:19:09 [SPEAKER_03]: And I enjoyed it.
01:19:10 --> 01:19:21 [SPEAKER_03]: I thought it was everything about it, the song, the dance, the, yeah, it just felt like taking from a musical that I could have wanted to watch.
01:19:23 --> 01:19:23 [SPEAKER_03]: Really cool.
01:19:24 --> 01:19:26 [SPEAKER_05]: We're going to speculate about some future stuff.
01:19:26 --> 01:19:39 [SPEAKER_05]: So if anyone does not want to hear about stuff in the trailers, then we'll say goodbye to you now and we'll be back next week around the same time with a breakdown of episode two.
01:19:39 --> 01:19:41 [SPEAKER_05]: And we've been glad to have you.
01:19:41 --> 01:19:46 [SPEAKER_05]: If you want to look ahead with us, yeah, we're starting with this opening number.
01:19:46 --> 01:19:52 [SPEAKER_05]: Again, choreographed by Chris Barton, who did the season one, choreo.
01:19:52 --> 01:19:54 [SPEAKER_05]: And James Gunn said that the lyrics
01:19:54 --> 01:20:20 [SPEAKER_05]: have some meaning for the season as he also said no season one okay so it's interesting it's about it's it's a hungry world they're going to eat you alive um when they're fangs sinking i'm like vampires no i don't really it's not literally are there there must be vampires in dc so yeah yeah hmm i can't think of any i'm just i'm like oh there's one but no marvel no that's marvel
01:20:25 --> 01:20:48 [SPEAKER_03]: DC did a whole alternate thing ongoing DC versus vampires okay yeah the second round of storytelling is about to end but which was a great you know all his all universe type of story but they told was really awesome okay okay hmm
01:20:51 --> 01:21:04 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm looking through these lyrics more and there's also you try and sleep even though you're alone you just close your eyes boy you dream of home the light is always on so I think this is talking about how his universe is his real home
01:21:05 --> 01:21:12 [SPEAKER_05]: and the light is always on for him to go back to it, because there's always a wrong to your right and there's always a war somewhere to fight, yeah, yeah.
01:21:13 --> 01:21:26 [SPEAKER_05]: And I think, yeah, every universe has its pros and its cons, but maybe Chris is a better person in his universe, even though he killed his dad and his brother, or especially because he killed his dad in a shame about his brother.
01:21:26 --> 01:21:27 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
01:21:27 --> 01:21:34 [SPEAKER_05]: So, so hide the song away for a darker day when you're on your knees screaming, oh, Lord, I'm always there to keep you in mind when you wake in the morning.
01:21:34 --> 01:21:35 [SPEAKER_05]: You'll be satisfied.
01:21:35 --> 01:21:35 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
01:21:36 --> 01:21:44 [SPEAKER_05]: I do notice that in the opening number, there seems to be some emphasis on the romance between Chris and Amelia.
01:21:45 --> 01:21:45 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:21:46 --> 01:21:46 [SPEAKER_05]: I did that.
01:21:47 --> 01:21:48 [SPEAKER_05]: Father, are there a view?
01:21:48 --> 01:21:50 [SPEAKER_05]: What are you saying?
01:21:50 --> 01:21:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, together, I think they're made for each other with their issues.
01:21:54 --> 01:21:54 [SPEAKER_01]: I think
01:21:55 --> 01:21:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Either they're going to work to destroy each other.
01:21:58 --> 01:21:59 [SPEAKER_01]: They're going to work to heal each other.
01:21:59 --> 01:22:01 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know which one though.
01:22:02 --> 01:22:03 [SPEAKER_05]: There's two versus versions.
01:22:03 --> 01:22:04 [SPEAKER_05]: So maybe both.
01:22:04 --> 01:22:05 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
01:22:06 --> 01:22:09 [SPEAKER_03]: A lot can go wrong with that pairing.
01:22:09 --> 01:22:09 [SPEAKER_03]: A lot.
01:22:13 --> 01:22:17 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, we, we get some teases of who else might be coming this season.
01:22:17 --> 01:22:18 [SPEAKER_05]: There's an older woman in the back.
01:22:18 --> 01:22:21 [SPEAKER_05]: We don't know anything about, we'll find out who she is.
01:22:22 --> 01:22:34 [SPEAKER_05]: There's a bunch of agents I suppose dressed in all black, but to who we do recognize one from last season is knit leads returning as a judo master aka rip jaker.
01:22:36 --> 01:22:40 [SPEAKER_05]: We know from the trailers apparently he's going to be assigned to a condomose team.
01:22:40 --> 01:22:43 [SPEAKER_05]: Do you think he's assigned to work for a condomose or is this supervisor?
01:22:45 --> 01:22:48 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh guys, I think he's assigned to kill him if he has to.
01:22:49 --> 01:22:54 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, he's just seeing like the Rick Flags like joining your team is this and he's a come on.
01:22:58 --> 01:23:00 [SPEAKER_01]: They're unresolved beful definitely getting away.
01:23:00 --> 01:23:00 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
01:23:01 --> 01:23:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
01:23:03 --> 01:23:10 [SPEAKER_05]: And we know we're getting Michael Roker is in the opening dance and he's going to be playing a character.
01:23:11 --> 01:23:13 [SPEAKER_05]: I already hate called Red St.
01:23:13 --> 01:23:22 [SPEAKER_05]: Wild and the official description of this character is the world's foremost ego hunter who is on a mission to kill E. Why?
01:23:22 --> 01:23:22 [SPEAKER_05]: Why?
01:23:24 --> 01:23:25 [SPEAKER_03]: Eagly never hurt nobody.
01:23:26 --> 01:23:30 [SPEAKER_05]: I know, except those people we saw on Kill, but they deserve it.
01:23:31 --> 01:23:32 [SPEAKER_01]: That's not his fault.
01:23:32 --> 01:23:33 [SPEAKER_01]: He's just an evil.
01:23:37 --> 01:23:39 [SPEAKER_05]: It's potato chip psychosis, you know.
01:23:39 --> 01:23:40 [SPEAKER_05]: Exactly.
01:23:44 --> 01:23:48 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm looking forward to in the trailers we get the teas vigilante.
01:23:48 --> 01:23:56 [SPEAKER_05]: Hopefully we get the scene that plays out where looks like he's showing up at the origin the next morning to confront to confront Chris.
01:23:57 --> 01:24:08 [SPEAKER_05]: We also are going to meet vigilante's mom, but it looks like from the trailers we're going to see a bit of out of bio vigilante and Chris as a trio together and I'm all in for that.
01:24:10 --> 01:24:16 [SPEAKER_05]: John, you and I will, with Eglie, we said those were our three favorite characters.
01:24:18 --> 01:24:23 [SPEAKER_05]: And it seems in the trailers we see Chris will tell out of bio about the QUD.
01:24:23 --> 01:24:27 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I guess economists already did, but it looks like she's going to help him.
01:24:27 --> 01:24:31 [SPEAKER_05]: Looks like peacemakers going to be exploring those other dimensions more predictably.
01:24:32 --> 01:24:35 [SPEAKER_05]: But he also seems to be carrying around some sort of portable portal tech.
01:24:35 --> 01:24:38 [SPEAKER_05]: So I don't know who could have like, good max lowered.
01:24:38 --> 01:24:39 [SPEAKER_05]: Come back and make something like that or what?
01:24:40 --> 01:24:41 [SPEAKER_05]: Or does he already have it?
01:24:42 --> 01:24:45 [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe gets it from said alternate.
01:24:46 --> 01:24:49 [SPEAKER_05]: You know, maybe from the August myth over there, something.
01:24:49 --> 01:24:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:24:50 --> 01:24:57 [SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was interesting how casual the alternate universe trio was about going through those doors.
01:24:57 --> 01:25:04 [SPEAKER_01]: They seem like they've been exploring the alternate dimensions pretty much since piece maker and Keith were kids.
01:25:05 --> 01:25:05 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
01:25:06 --> 01:25:06 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
01:25:06 --> 01:25:06 [SPEAKER_05]: Absolutely.
01:25:06 --> 01:25:11 [SPEAKER_05]: That was probably why he didn't think it was weird that he was in there in the hallway.
01:25:12 --> 01:25:15 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I suppose, yeah, if they had a better relationship
01:25:15 --> 01:25:17 [SPEAKER_05]: seemed like, oh, he used a lot.
01:25:18 --> 01:25:19 [SPEAKER_05]: I wonder about their mom.
01:25:19 --> 01:25:21 [SPEAKER_05]: We never hear about that.
01:25:21 --> 01:25:21 [SPEAKER_03]: We don't.
01:25:23 --> 01:25:34 [SPEAKER_05]: Maybe she, maybe she, like, we don't know if she died in the DC universe or what, but maybe in the Southern universe, she was around more.
01:25:34 --> 01:25:36 [SPEAKER_05]: All right.
01:25:36 --> 01:25:41 [SPEAKER_05]: Any last thoughts on this episode or hopes for this season ahead?
01:25:42 --> 01:25:42 [SPEAKER_03]: Hmm.
01:25:43 --> 01:25:44 [SPEAKER_03]: hopes.
01:25:45 --> 01:25:48 [SPEAKER_03]: Tell me all about the queue.
01:25:50 --> 01:25:53 [SPEAKER_03]: I want to know how these dimensional doors got there.
01:25:53 --> 01:25:55 [SPEAKER_03]: I want to see.
01:25:56 --> 01:26:04 [SPEAKER_03]: You don't have to show it to me being done, but I need some sort of explanation for that.
01:26:04 --> 01:26:08 [SPEAKER_03]: That's the one big thing that I want to get out of the season.
01:26:09 --> 01:26:10 [SPEAKER_03]: Hopefully.
01:26:10 --> 01:26:11 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
01:26:12 --> 01:26:19 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to put down some internet points here and say, the season is going to end with economists as the head of Argus.
01:26:21 --> 01:26:22 [SPEAKER_05]: Instead of a man who all are.
01:26:23 --> 01:26:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:26:24 --> 01:26:24 [SPEAKER_01]: I think so.
01:26:25 --> 01:26:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
01:26:25 --> 01:26:27 [SPEAKER_05]: Wow.
01:26:27 --> 01:26:31 [SPEAKER_05]: We do think that there's a wall or show still coming, but we don't know what that's going to look like at all.
01:26:33 --> 01:26:37 [SPEAKER_01]: I hope they end up putting that wall or show out that would be awesome.
01:26:38 --> 01:26:38 [SPEAKER_01]: That would be
01:26:40 --> 01:26:46 [SPEAKER_05]: And I hope someone else is in it, but I don't want to spoil it for air, and even though we've talked about it in previous episodes.
01:26:47 --> 01:26:48 [SPEAKER_01]: That's all right, I don't mind spoilers.
01:26:50 --> 01:26:50 [SPEAKER_05]: Excellent.
01:26:54 --> 01:27:00 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, so we'll be back every week to talk through the piecemaker episodes as I come out eight episodes in total.
01:27:00 --> 01:27:05 [SPEAKER_05]: We do not have access to screeners, so we will be doing them a few days after like this one.
01:27:06 --> 01:27:13 [SPEAKER_05]: The episodes themselves drop on HBO Max on Thursday evenings in the Americas Fridays for the rest of us.
01:27:14 --> 01:27:26 [SPEAKER_05]: Um, and the next next week's episode, it looks like the longest we know so far as you said, John, for the eight minutes titled, a man is only as good as his bird, which is so true.
01:27:27 --> 01:27:27 [SPEAKER_05]: The eagle is the best.
01:27:35 --> 01:27:43 [SPEAKER_05]: I'll also put links in the show notes to the recent Superman coverage and creature commandos coverage from January if you're still catching up on DCU with those.
01:27:44 --> 01:27:51 [SPEAKER_05]: And Marvel fans also, you'll find in the show list recent episodes on IronHards, Fantastic Four for Steps.
01:27:51 --> 01:27:54 [SPEAKER_05]: We're going to be doing Isive Wakanda coming up soon.
01:27:54 --> 01:27:57 [SPEAKER_05]: We just were catching up on this other stuff and life stuff.
01:27:58 --> 01:28:03 [SPEAKER_05]: And then, of course, we've got a couple more Marvel shows coming this year.
01:28:03 --> 01:28:08 [SPEAKER_05]: Um, would you most looking for too young Marvel zombies or Wonderman?
01:28:08 --> 01:28:10 [SPEAKER_05]: Actually, I think I know the answer, but Wonderman.
01:28:11 --> 01:28:11 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
01:28:11 --> 01:28:12 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
01:28:12 --> 01:28:12 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
01:28:12 --> 01:28:12 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
01:28:12 --> 01:28:12 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:28:12 --> 01:28:13 [SPEAKER_05]: Wonderman.
01:28:13 --> 01:28:14 [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
01:28:14 --> 01:28:15 [SPEAKER_05]: What about you, Aaron?
01:28:16 --> 01:28:17 [SPEAKER_05]: Are you going to watch either of them?
01:28:18 --> 01:28:18 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:28:18 --> 01:28:20 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll definitely watch Marvel zombies.
01:28:20 --> 01:28:21 [SPEAKER_01]: This will see about Wonderman.
01:28:22 --> 01:28:22 [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
01:28:24 --> 01:28:26 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm excited for them both for the different reasons, yeah.
01:28:28 --> 01:28:30 [SPEAKER_05]: So what's going on in Radioactive Ramlings?
01:28:30 --> 01:28:32 [SPEAKER_05]: Jen Vies come starting soon, right?
01:28:33 --> 01:28:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, we will be doing full coverage of GenV and then fall out shortly after that.
01:28:38 --> 01:28:40 [SPEAKER_01]: I think they overlap just a little bit.
01:28:42 --> 01:28:56 [SPEAKER_01]: Until then, we will have some sporadic episodes of either Studio Ghibli or fall out lore, but now is a good time if you haven't listened to any of our fallout lore episodes to go back and listen to especially the Legion and Mr. House episodes.
01:28:57 --> 01:28:59 [SPEAKER_05]: Do you know what your next Studio Ghibli movie is going to be?
01:29:01 --> 01:29:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Hmm, I want to say it's gonna be pork aroso.
01:29:05 --> 01:29:06 [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
01:29:06 --> 01:29:07 [SPEAKER_05]: I think that's fine.
01:29:10 --> 01:29:39 [SPEAKER_05]: All right, well, if you want to find Radioactive Ramlings, you'll find a link tree in the show notes with links to all the affiliates, including never mind the music for psychology meets music, rings and rituals, going deeper on rings of power, properly Howard's movie reviews is wrapping up their bacon rap season, although Anthony was just saying that they're going to sneak in an extra episode about the new movie Friendship with Tim Robinson and Kate Marra.
01:29:40 --> 01:29:41 [SPEAKER_05]: and Paul Rudd.
01:29:41 --> 01:29:45 [SPEAKER_05]: So yeah, that's one that I was already looking forward to seeing.
01:29:45 --> 01:29:48 [SPEAKER_05]: So I'm looking forward to them doing that episode about it.
01:29:49 --> 01:29:52 [SPEAKER_05]: We'll shift dust, doom book coverage.
01:29:52 --> 01:30:04 [SPEAKER_05]: The store was kind of timeline podcasts coming back soon with more hybrid public coverage and subscribers were going to get some, I think a couple short recap episodes about the material
01:30:05 --> 01:30:14 [SPEAKER_05]: leading up to the new season of Star Wars visions, which is going to have some repeat stuff and going deeper on the Ronin book and things like that.
01:30:14 --> 01:30:21 [SPEAKER_05]: So also on the main Laura Hound's feed, foundation season three coverage is ongoing with John and Marilyn.
01:30:21 --> 01:30:22 [SPEAKER_05]: Are you watching that one, Erin?
01:30:23 --> 01:30:25 [SPEAKER_01]: I love foundation.
01:30:25 --> 01:30:25 [SPEAKER_01]: It's
01:30:27 --> 01:30:28 [SPEAKER_01]: It's just incredible.
01:30:28 --> 01:30:35 [SPEAKER_01]: The visuals, everything about it, and John and Marilyn's coverage is such a great companion to go along with that.
01:30:36 --> 01:30:36 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
01:30:37 --> 01:30:37 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
01:30:37 --> 01:30:39 [SPEAKER_05]: I love getting the book reader perspective.
01:30:40 --> 01:30:44 [SPEAKER_05]: And David's leading weekly coverage of Alien Earth, it just dropped.
01:30:45 --> 01:30:56 [SPEAKER_05]: So we did last week a guilty age episode, which was our record at the time at nearly three hours covering the first three seasons of the guilty age talking about the history and the characters and what's coming.
01:30:57 --> 01:31:06 [SPEAKER_05]: And then David beat us, I think, by eight minutes, Brian said, with episode three breakdown of Alien Earth with them.
01:31:06 --> 01:31:18 [SPEAKER_05]: he had this week as his guest host Mark from Nevermind the Music and Ian from Captain's Pod so I haven't gotten to that just came out and I haven't gotten to listen to it yet but I'm looking forward to it.
01:31:19 --> 01:31:21 [SPEAKER_05]: You're watching Alien Earth as well right Aaron.
01:31:21 --> 01:31:23 [SPEAKER_05]: John and I talked about it before which is what I see.
01:31:23 --> 01:31:28 [SPEAKER_01]: I actually am very far away from the Alien franchise.
01:31:28 --> 01:31:32 [SPEAKER_01]: I think I watched the original Alien movie and that's about it.
01:31:32 --> 01:31:33 [SPEAKER_01]: That's all I have for my belt.
01:31:33 --> 01:31:33 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:31:34 --> 01:31:34 [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
01:31:35 --> 01:31:38 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, you don't have to have watched anything for Alien Earth.
01:31:38 --> 01:31:40 [SPEAKER_05]: It's set just before the original movie.
01:31:41 --> 01:31:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
01:31:42 --> 01:31:43 [SPEAKER_01]: And is it worth the watch, you think?
01:31:43 --> 01:31:44 [SPEAKER_01]: So far, yes.
01:31:45 --> 01:31:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
01:31:45 --> 01:31:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:31:45 --> 01:31:46 [SPEAKER_01]: I might have to check it out then.
01:31:47 --> 01:31:54 [SPEAKER_05]: It's yet, it's Noah Hawley who is a very inventive TV otter.
01:31:54 --> 01:32:08 [SPEAKER_05]: I would say, you know, he really has unusual ways of framing things with the camera and telling stories and with unreliable narrators and, you know, trippy visuals and yeah.
01:32:09 --> 01:32:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm a suckers for sci-fi, so I'm in.
01:32:14 --> 01:32:15 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
01:32:16 --> 01:32:25 [SPEAKER_05]: If anyone at home has any feedback about the piecemaker show that you want to share, we can we'll discuss it on a future episode, just send that to comics versus
01:32:25 --> 01:32:49 [SPEAKER_05]: comics vs at the lowerhouse.com you'll find that in the link in the show notes as well and also in the link tree in the show notes is a link to our discord where there is a forum with spoiler chats per movie or show or episode of peacemaker under the DCU forum currently under current shows if you're listening to it later you'll find it under franchises and
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01:33:18 --> 01:33:22 [SPEAKER_05]: weapons or life with Chuck things like that.
01:33:23 --> 01:33:26 [SPEAKER_05]: And also our monthly second breakfast and elevensies episodes.
01:33:27 --> 01:33:30 [SPEAKER_05]: Just release before this will be the Poutine episode.
01:33:30 --> 01:33:37 [SPEAKER_05]: And then this month is David's month doing eighties, ninety spoofs and airplane is the big winner there.
01:33:38 --> 01:33:41 [SPEAKER_05]: So I think this is going to be my first time watching airplane.
01:33:42 --> 01:33:42 [SPEAKER_03]: Really.
01:33:43 --> 01:33:43 [SPEAKER_05]: Mm-hmm.
01:33:44 --> 01:33:45 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
01:33:45 --> 01:33:45 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
01:33:46 --> 01:33:48 [SPEAKER_05]: I know, like, don't call me Shirley.
01:33:48 --> 01:33:50 [SPEAKER_05]: I know that's, you know, from airplane.
01:33:50 --> 01:33:52 [SPEAKER_05]: I know.
01:33:52 --> 01:33:54 [SPEAKER_03]: It's hard side as next to you.
01:33:54 --> 01:33:56 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
01:33:56 --> 01:33:57 [SPEAKER_05]: It's probably for the best.
01:33:58 --> 01:34:01 [SPEAKER_05]: All right.
01:34:02 --> 01:34:03 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to put on some music now.
01:34:03 --> 01:34:04 [SPEAKER_05]: Are you ready for it?
01:34:04 --> 01:34:05 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, God.
01:34:07 --> 01:34:08 [SPEAKER_05]: Eighties folder again.
01:34:09 --> 01:34:11 [SPEAKER_05]: in honor of peacemakers journey.
01:34:12 --> 01:34:13 [SPEAKER_05]: Odyssey, here we go.
01:34:13 --> 01:34:14 [SPEAKER_05]: We're going to say some thank yous.
01:34:15 --> 01:34:17 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, this is actually much mellower than I expected.
01:34:19 --> 01:34:29 [SPEAKER_05]: But still, thank you to our Discord server boosters, Erin Kay, to load the thriller, do of seventy-one, Athena Agilea, Lestu, Nancy M, Ghost Partition and Radioactive Richard.
01:34:30 --> 01:34:35 [SPEAKER_05]: Thank you to our lore master, Samarshan Michael G. Michelle E. Brian E. S.C.
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01:34:54 --> 01:35:03 [SPEAKER_05]: Cathy W. The Stu Jeffrey B. Lisa you kneel F. Ben B. Scott F. Steven N. Julia F. Callie S. Illmariel.
01:35:03 --> 01:35:16 [SPEAKER_05]: Ford slash Tim Paul K. Bobby C. Jessica H. Red Zippy aka Lisa C. I saw just before we started recording that the TCS just became a Lauren Master as well.
01:35:16 --> 01:35:17 [SPEAKER_05]: So welcome.
01:35:18 --> 01:35:19 [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you and welcome.
01:35:19 --> 01:35:20 [SPEAKER_05]: Thank you.
01:35:21 --> 01:35:27 [SPEAKER_05]: And, John, what are your final thoughts to share with the world this fine episode?
01:35:27 --> 01:35:37 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, again Kevin Feige, Recast the Chala, Damson Idris, desktop playing games man, just come out and do it.
01:35:38 --> 01:35:39 [SPEAKER_03]: This is what the people want.
01:35:40 --> 01:35:45 [SPEAKER_03]: It's going to be twenty, twenty, six and a few months, stop playing games.
01:35:46 --> 01:35:48 [SPEAKER_03]: Recast the Chala.
01:35:49 --> 01:35:52 [SPEAKER_05]: and James Gum bring back Alta's Hodge as Hawkman.
01:35:52 --> 01:35:52 [SPEAKER_05]: Thank you.
01:35:53 --> 01:35:53 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we could do that too.
01:35:54 --> 01:35:54 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
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